President Donald Trump is pushing hard against the boundaries of what the media can absorb. In a Truth Social post earlier today, President Trump notes that any document signed by autopen without the cognitive affirmation of Joe Biden is nulled.
This could have serious ramifications; however, I’m not sure how it could be enforced.
President Donald Trump – “Any document signed by Sleepy Joe Biden with the Autopen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated, and of no further force or effect. The Autopen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President of the United States. The Radical Left Lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful Resolute Desk in the Oval Office took the Presidency away from him. I am hereby cancelling all Executive Orders, and anything else that was not directly signed by Crooked Joe Biden, because the people who operated the Autopen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the Autopen process and, if he says he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
The Radical Left Lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful Resolute Desk in the Oval Office may plead the Fifth. But none of them will definitely say, or prove, that Biden approved anything.
how many statutes and other bills passed by congress are ‘nullified’?
Just watching football, and dozed off. Remember dreaming that I woke up and judge boaz was no longer there….
I fell asleep and woke up to
the Chicago Bears
beating Philadelphia
None, ….the Autopen was not used unlawfully to sign statutes.
Yes it was
Nme one bill or statute signed that was not first voted on and approved by congress.
How many Judicial appointments would be in jeopardy? Including Ketanji Brown Jackson.
Not the nomination of Ketanji Brown Jackson as Biden PUBLICLY announced her nomination to the Supreme Court. She wasn’t a good pick, but it wasn’t documented by a piece of paper signed by autopen. Public speech by Biden marked the occasion.
“AI Overview
“On February 25, 2022, President Joe Biden nominated Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court to fill the vacancy left by the retirement of Justice Stephen Breyer. In his announcement, Biden highlighted her experience as a public defender, federal judge, and appellate court judge, and his hope that she would bring a consensus-building and experienced perspective to the court. The nomination was historic, as it made Jackson the first Black woman nominated to the Supreme Court.
So, you are trying to tell me that there is no nomination document required?
Everything can just be done verbally.
Really!
It was on television–Live.
Pity. Such a shame.
Not sure, but probably none because the Senate confirmed them.
The bill is passed by Congress.
The bill only becomes law when signed by the president.
If some staffer is using the autopen because Biden was senile, it’s not law.
But it doesn’t become law until signed by the President.
That was not Galahad’s point.
Every single Executive Order. None of these are, by any President pass through Congress.
Passed by Congress would not be illegal,so none.
Bills passed by Congress have to be signed by the President. The fact that the President does not sign the votes by Senate and House concerning objections to Certificates of Ascertainment at the Joint Session of Congress to count the Electoral votes of each state has caused some Constitutional scholars to question the constitutionality of that part of the Electoral Count Act. The President has to sign the two Resolutions of House and Senate voted on in separate chambers to decide about a DECLARATION OF WAR, but the Electoral Count Act doesn’t require the President to sign the separate Resolutions concerning the Objection of one state’s Certificate of Ascertainment.
The autopen rules would apply to Presidential signatures on bills passed by the two houses of Congress.
Bills passed by congress but not returned within ten days become law without the president’s signature. Article 1, section 7. However, if congress is not in session, then the pocket veto applies, since the bill could not be returned.
Pocket veto is not what we are discussing here. It has to do with Biden not signing bills himself, but the use of the autopen. I brought up the Objections votes by the two houses during the Electoral Vote Count since it is the only such documents that do not require a Presidential signature and how some Constitutional scholars (not just John Eastman) think that makes the Electoral Count Act unconstitutional. The autopen has to do with a President not competent enough to sign documents of state, so his staff used autopen. Not legitimate. In fact, if he was legally incompetent–period–he couldn’t legally sign any official documents because he was mentally incompetent. He can’t sign contracts of a personal for that reason, why would he be allowed to sign documents of state importance?
According to the Constitution, if the President does not sign the bill passed by Congress, and does not return it with a veto, it becomes law without his signature after 10 days, unless congress is not in session. Biden’s signature does not matter if Congress remained in session for ten days after passing the bill.
it is my recollection from ancient civics course: a bill passed by both houses of Congress that is not signed by the President is deemed to be “a Pocket Veto” .. So a vote would have had to take place by both Houses to override that “Pocket Veto”
Laws/statutes passed by Congress do not become official until signed by POTUS. If the law/statute was signed by someone or something other than POTUS, is that law/statute official? I would say “no”. Think it through.
How about some of the ones “signed” by Diane Feinstein when someone was pushing her hand and telling her what to do. But, oh yeah, isn’t she one of the ones who own the voting machines?
RIDDLE FOR JOE
I’m a trial with no lawyers, a jail with no bars,
I live on a table, not under the stars.
One card can condemn you, one card sets you free,
And “biggly” crimes mean big trouble for thee.
What am I?
Answer: Manusha Justice
How it could be enforced? How are the legitimate ones enforced? Like that, but stop doing it for the void ones.
People like to quote “fraud vitiates everything” but then actually acting on that seems a mystery? No; it’s like smoking; one becomes a non-smoker by ceasing to smoke.
I know, the root question is whether people or “the system” or even the people reporting to him as the executive branch will heed him, but if not, good to know now and not later and get things out in the open.
Trump just acted on it. Grab some popcorn and watch the whole thing explode.
The lawful process for using an autopen involves the president authorizing its use for signing documents, as confirmed by the Department of Justice. The signatures produced by an autopen are considered valid as long as the president has given explicit approval for its use.
Biden was never President, so he couldn’t authorize shit. Died in 2019.
Evidence: his many body doubles — especially the really tall long legged one.
Was Biden giving explicit approval on a document by document basis? Or did he give a blanket approval to use the autopen on any document his staff thought needed it? And if that is what he did, where is the evidence that he actually gave such blanket approval?
🎯
Would such a blanket order be legal? Highly doubtful, the Oval Office doesn’t run on autopilot, though one might say the Biden administration was our very first AI Administration.
More like the first AU administration: (artificial unintelligence)
🎯 Bidumb has always been a moron and a buffoon.
I disagree. The intelligence was artificial, the unintelligence (aka, stupidity) was actual.
It will be a court fight, but maybe each an individual one, which would tie the courts up for years, keeping them from interfering in President Trump’s agenda. Of course eventually the Supreme Court would have to rule, and that rule could become the general rule for all the autopen signings. Still if the Supreme Courts uphold the nullification I think corrupt lawyers would find novel ways to bring individual cases.
President Trump broadcasted it as he signed all those documents in the WH for a good reason. He explained exactly what he was signing in front of the press gas bags. We SAW HIM sign them!! That’s my president!!
Joe Biden’s autopen group was made to watch. Traitors!!!
That is for the aware, the legitimate, and cognizant. He was truly none of the above…
Joe Biden never authorized the auto pen use, because cognitively he was not able to do so. Are you a democrat, Because you sure like to defend and apologize for them? The last ditch effort to convince people to vote for Biden before tossing him aside for KH was telling voters that the Biden presidency was really a presidency by committee. Vote for Biden and you’ll get a woke mob running the country not a geriatric Alzheimer’s patient like Joe Biden.
An Autopen president is not “cool” it’s illegal
Is this Neera Tanden?
Or some other leftist shill?
In each case. For each document..
Therin lies the rub. Can Dopey Joe prove without a shadow of a doubt that he personally authorized use of the device to sign those documents? Considering his cognitive state the past 5 years or so… No.
Yes! And your last sentence, especially the back half, is the sticking point—given explicit approval for its use. He wasn’t able to give specific approval for each and every time it was used.
Yes indeed, this will be interesting.
Personally, I’m not sure about the use of the auto pen, period.
That said, the outcome is very important because if it’s decided poorly, then staffers “could” act on their own under certain circumstances.
Queen to queen level three. Excellent move by president Trump.
… they first make mad.
Nice reference.
“Whom Gods Destroy” — Star Trek: TOS. Yvonne Craig looked good as an Orion slave girl but she was an absolute smoke show in the Batgirl costume. 👀👀
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The pardons may be difficult to rescind because the Constitution does not provide a means for a President to cancel a previous President’s pardons, it would have to be based on fraud and not being actually authorized by Joe Biden, but EOs should be revocable by a subsequent EO.
The lawful process for using an autopen involves the president authorizing its use for signing documents, as confirmed by the Department of Justice. The signatures produced by an autopen are considered valid as long as the president has given explicit approval for its use.
Any Autopen signature that is not proved to be approved by the President, is not a valid signature…..It is as if the document was never signed.
‘Any Autopen signature that is not proved to be approved by the President, is not a valid signature…..It is as if the document was never signed.’
That’s one view.
Some suggest:
Step back from the trees and consider the forest:
The overall result is what counts: More disagreement, strife, chaos, shame, and invalidation of the established institutions of the US including government.
The “healthcare” institutions are another example, with trust destroyed by the insidious modRNA shots unlawfully coerced on the US/aligned populations accompanied by lies, propaganda, and the manufactured plandemic worsened by suppressing safe mitigations including ivermectin. And think of the shame experienced by healthcare professionals and others who did this, who knew better.
Remember how biden disappeared for 2 days when the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal started, reappeared for a very brief scripted statement to the press pool, then inexplicably turned around and woodenly shuffled off the stage ignoring press questions, again disappearing for days? All part of the Plan: Invalidating US institutions, destroying trust in government and shaming the US.
The hidden forces steering the US government always have multiple goals planned with every machination, including the longer-term aims of undermining the US by sowing more chaos & strife and destroying faith in institutions including government. The autopen machination fits this pattern.
“Longer-term aims of undermining the US”? Yes, managed decline – because decline is inevitable as China rises, the hidden forces who control the US are steering to maintain their position of power, sometimes they may even resort to controlled demolition here and there.
You finally got something right vis a vis your second paragraph.
They just were.
Until a Biden or Obama Judge nullifies Trump’s order.
Maybe President Trump has deduced it was Hunter Biden, in the Oval Office, with the Autopen and the Cocaine.
Savor that, it’s soooooooo delicious!!!!
Is that from Biden’s new board game: No Clue?
HaHa Clever and funny!
Obama used Biden’s autopen to nominate Ketanji Jackson to the Supreme Court. Biden still has no idea who she is. FAKE Justice who must be replaced by Donald Trump.
Watch, someone will reply to my post in an effort to defend KBJs honor and swear she never said that and that I shouldn’t mis quote her. I just know it…
I thought that was Lisa Page.
It was.
I am not concerned about the nomination document, the concern lies with the commission document which officially makes “Trust Me” Ketanji an associate justice of the USSC after Senate approval as someone brought up upthread.
The Die Is Cast
He’s Fast-tracking the revoking of the Democrat party. Once the irrefutable proof of 2020 and J6 is on the record the next step is the FBI raiding the DNC offices for records. That evidence will confirm the systemic fraud and criminal activity.
Trump sounds pissed enough now to go there.
The shredders are probably burning up.
Idk about that because Trump loves to troll. He’s good at it, throws it out to melt the media into a frenzy and just moves on knowing it is impossible to do. So is this Truth or troll?
President Trump is poking them good!
Sunday morning talk shows are going to be epic.
I’d opt for a much larger glass. Maybe an aquarium.
Bold move, I like it. It’s not like the GOP has a plan to do anything but to fundraise against illegitimate actions by a usurper president.
And we still got about 2 minutes left in the first quarter of play and thats plenty of time to score.
‘Way past time for some offense!
The reason we love Trump is not that his is a dictator or “King.”
Rather, he understand what a Republic is and he is doing all he can to awaken the sleeping masses who have forgotten what that requires of the people.
You say he can’t be prosecuted because he wasn’t all there? Been waiting for this!
The presidency that just got cancelled! How’s that ice ream Joe?
Right now he’s probably comatose anyway.
He was attempting to meet kids and lighting Christmas trees over the weekend, seen on Nantucket….
If he really has dementia/Alzheimer’s, he should be bedridden by now….(I always doubted that and still do).
Me thinks his, ” look-a-like”, gets big bucks , PRN !
The most obvious body double was the one trotted out at the Casa Blanco a week after Bidumb’s medical emergency in Las Vegas. That one looked to be around 6’4″ – 6’6″, Joey Two Scoops is 6′.
Ice ream. Spelling error or deliberate?
Forcing the Dems and the Derp State to defend their actions in a court of law (fare)…..
Biden ignored SCOTUS rulings so in my world Trump should be able to nullify him completely! 🤣
It would be great to see the question go to court. Perhaps that is what Trump is pushing to have occur. Then discovery begins, and the proof will have to be addressed.
The issue is not only how this can be enforced, but how it can be confirmed that Biden was cognizant for one signature, but not another.
How about interrogating everyone listed as present at each signature of an EO.
Every moment of a President’s official actions is documented/recorded/transcribed.
Who was present – how was the order signed, when and in what manner was the
pResident (fjb) informed of the order, and either personally signed it, or gave consent for the autopen to be used?
In other words:
What did the pResident know, and when did he know it????
SOH Johnson said that it took months to get a meeting with Biden to ask him about LNG. Then Biden didn’t know he had signed an order not to sell Liquid Nitrogen Gas to foreign buyers. Biden said he signed an order to STUDY it. But Johnson confirmed that Biden didn’t know what he signed and was clueless!
LNG = Liquid Natural Gas
Classic move, he’s forcing the DS political and legal complex to come out and reactively fight on his terms. As for evidence, the House Speaker said that Biden denied signing the EO blocking LNG exports, I’m sure there’s plenty more.
The strategy, as I’ve reiterated before, is to destroy the legitimacy of the Democrats by tying all their sordid corruption round their necks, well before the Mid-Terms. This is just another putrescence albatross, along with all the rest, with the particularly vile Ukraine specimen being measured up for its lanyard. You don’t build in individual steps, phases yes, but each of those is full of interdependent activities, that’s what we’re seeing here.
Well, I can’t remember who said it the other day, perhaps it was someone on Bannon’s podcast, but apparently Pompeo reported that everyone on the 7th floor of the CIA(management) is reportedly post-constitutional.
Based on the last 20 years(perhaps since 1948) that seems more true than not. “Plausible deniability”(George Kennan) has its flaws, no?
Donald has proven that he can act accordingly with trust of the People.
Isn’t use of the Autopen… Fraud???
And doesn’t fraud nullify
Contracts
Marriages
Judgements
Decrees
it will be selective
by order of importance
to the American people
that is how
President Trump rolls!
of course, there are those pesky
communist judges placed
sporadically throughout the country
and then to the Supreme Court
6-3 ruling
then enforcement
oh, good times!
This will most certainly end up with SCOTUS. What will be interest will be the uniparty reaction. Buckle up!
How about we trash the Autopen except for ceremonial purposes designated by law. And every use of the Autopen must be accompanied by by an affidavit of its use. Or words to that effect.
It is usually used to sign the White House Christmas cards and such, it should not ever be used to sign legislation and other official documents. Ever.
I suppose this precludes the possibility of my alma mater changing its nickname from the Penmen to the Autopenmen anytime soon.
Let’s go through them one by one and in the meantime indict and prosecute and incarcerate the individuals who used the auto-pen to advance personal and ideological agendas. Just saying the signatures are void is not accountability. It’s bullshit.
It’s not bullshite, it’s an opening move.
If a thorough investigation concludes Biden was too incompetent to hold the office as of a certain date, then none of his signatures means anything. If he could not understand the meaning of the documents he signed, his signature on them is meaningless. This is what the 25th Amendment is about. Mental incompetence renders a sitting President unfit to make decisions of state, whether he physically signs the document, or verbally permits someone else to use the autopen. If asked later if he verbally approved use of an autopen, but mentally has no recall of such a decision, his “verbal approval” is not verifiable.
When someone cannot assist in their own defense at trial, and is thus too incompetent to be charged, they are not competent to make ANY decision of state. If someone is too incompetent to govern, the People cannot consent to be governed by someone that incompetent even when the facts of the Head of State’s incompetence are kept secret from the People.
I remember when Biden first took office. He was sitting looking at a document and getting ready to sign it. He looked down and said out loud “what am I signing?”. His vice president was standing next to him (we all know who that was) and said “Just sign it”. And so he did.
I am not making this up!
I do not think that was Harris that said it, it came from someone off – camera. Probably Susan Rice.
I guess we could rename the 25A the “Edith Wilson Amendment”. Jilldo tipped things off by dedicating her book “Where The Light Enters: Building A Family, Discovering Myself” to the memory of Woody’s second spouse.
Amazon descriptions:
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This should be fun to watch!
Think of this: 92% of all documents that required the President’s signature during Biden’s reign were done by autopen… Biden’s staff surmised he was incapable of signing a document 92% of the time in office. This is much worse than I imagined.
Anyone expect any lawsuits to be filed in Judge Boasberg DC District court over President Trump nullifying “Any Document” Signed by Joe Biden’s Autopen ?
The Biden DOJ had previously stated that Biden was too old, confused, and frail to stand trial. For the pardons to stand and the plaintiffs to prevail, They will each need to sue or join a combined suit and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Joe Biden did in fact authorize and approve each and every pardon. The staffers already took the Fifth Amendment during Congressional oversight hearings. Poor Nancy, poor Liz C., poor Milley, and poor Hunter and the Biden Family, et. al. Now, wait and watch to see who funds the lawsuits on behalf of the prior Administration.
What do you call a cruise ship full of lawyers that capsizes and sinks?
A good start
My favorite version is;
What do you call bus load of lawyers going over a cliff with an empty seat?
A crying shame.
Water pollution.
Talk about changing control of a narrative. With yesterday’s autopen post P-47 just went nuclear on the Democrats. He’s had enough of liberals and their scheming. He has had enough of constantly playing defense. For this move to fail, the Democrats will need to prove in a courtroom that Joe Biden, not Jill, not Hunter, or Jeff Zients (Chief of Staff), that Biden authorized the pardons in question. Trump is saying that unless there is incontrovertible proof a response that relies on an autopen signature alone renders the pardons invalid. How sweet is that! The people who were pardoned will need to sue to have their pardons reinstated, but what proof will they be able to recover? Joe Biden’s word sitting next to Jill Behar on the View? Ha!
Now the very laws that he broke will come to his defense; he CAN NOT stand trial in his mental condition. AND it will be hard to ‘prove’ his state of mind at the time of using autopen………….remember they refused to test his ‘mental’ state at any time of his presidency. His ‘physicians’ knew what would come of his illegitimate presidency……….he was unfit to serve.
God Help US
It ain’t Joe’s fault, he couldn’t have thought of all the consequences. It truly was Obama’s ‘third term’ and they’re sticking to it.
Grab your popcorn….here comes the next “Constitutional Crisis” once the courts are done with this, it may change how the autopen is used. Going to be fun to watch.
Supreme Court will pivot to there is no “STANDING” on this particular matter so we can’t hear the case……….Just like the VOTING issues…….It will never get resolved one way or the other.
I would opine that if a President declares something and the so-called “Supreme” Court declares “no standing,” then said President has free-reign to do what he declared.
The SC is supposed to be the check on the Executive. If they “opt-out,” so be it.
Yes, this will eventually come before the “supreme court”…
They will have no choice but to hear the case…
If the corrupt “supreme court” refuses to hear the case for ANY reason, they will be legally giving President Trump the authority to do as he chooses re: Biden’s use of the autopen.
This is going to be a great show to watch. Even if it goes nowhere. The news will have something to gnaw on for months as Democrats defend Dementia Joe. and everything he supposedly signed. The amount of court cases that could transpire is mind boggling. The aides admitting that they propped up Joe Biden will make excellent witnesses testimonial that the Democrats will have to defend. Of course the only way to make this stick would require a medical professional saying Dementia Joe wasn’t mentally fit to be President. Joe’s medical records should be interesting in discovery as the left defend him.
I’m curious to see where President Trump goes with this. Something is afoot.
Looks like the courts and the MSM need to get used to drinking op from a fire hose.
According to some of the reporting I’ve read, Biden’s schedule and meeting notes provide documentation that Biden was NOT in those pardons/commutations meetings nor were any of those meetings on his official schedule. However, HUNTER Biden participated in them. Thinking back to Bubba and his lovely wife Bruno’s time, they got rich off of these activities. (Marc Rich pardon comes to mind). Since the Biden Crime Family’s federal gravy train was coming to an end, how much money (if any) made its way into one or more of Hunter’s bank accounts? Otherwise, why on God’s Green Earth would the reprobate be involved in this process? Is he some sort of champion for righteous justice? Or is he a money grubbing drug addled low life scrounging what he can get up until the last minute?
DJT now brings the autopen situation directly to the courts.
Woo-Hoo!
If the Left wasn’t already in a Tizzy, this should do it!
I hope it includes pardons, bills passed by Congress, etc….Roll it ALL BACK as though the Biden Administration never existed
Because it wasn’t legitimate and shouldn’t have been..
Yippee! Sploddy heads comin’ up
There needs to be a law passed that an autopen can only be used by a President for ceremonial purposes, birthday cards, invitations, holiday greetings etc!!! Everything else requires a manual signature by a President!!! The Democrats would run another demented idiot if they thought they could steal another Presidential election!!! JMO
if they run another, that would make 3 in a row
Think of all the pardons the Biteme Regime signed off on! Those activist judges are going to be so busy from the ACLU and all the other commiedem groups filing lawsuits.
I wonder if Fauci and Cheney are nervous? So many targets.
What about all of the military and diplomatic, and other commissions issued by every President? They are all “signed” by the President and the head of the issuing authority.
If the President actually did that, then they are valid. Trump, for example, has many times worn out his pen. Sitting there in front of other people, actually signing one thing after the other. (Witness the photo that is used at the top of this very thread.)
What about Federal Judges??
an worst nightmare president Joe Biden in history of America ,
He should be accountable for NG loss her life and one is still fighting he’s life,
You simply force the issue in the courts. Many hundreds of documents that were to be “signed by the President” were signed by persons unknown. The Speaker of the House testified where he tried to discuss an order with Biden who did not have any idea what he was talking about. A very similar situation happened long ago with Mrs. Wilson, when Woodrow became completely incapacitated by strokes. It can be done.
Start by introducing criminal proceedings against Fauci, the “J6 Committee,” and others who were last-minute “pardoned” by machine. Start with that.
At a minimum, Deep State will have to defend. The discussions will bring attention.
The perjury aspect is the issue – perjury requires the relevant statement be made under oath.
This is noise, not signal.
The annulment does not have to be enforced. Can you imagine Biden being questioned in court?