President Trump calls attention to recent FBI admissions that around 250 FBI agents were placed in the crowd during January 6, 2021, protests. The purpose and premise of the FBI operation remains sketchy.
Story Here – Released FBI Files Here
TRUTH SOCIAL – “It was just revealed that the FBI had secretly placed, against all Rules, Regulations, Protocols, and Standards, 274 FBI Agents into the Crowd just prior to, and during, the January 6th Hoax. This is different from what Director Christopher Wray stated, over and over again! That’s right, as it now turns out, FBI Agents were at, and in, the January 6th Protest, probably acting as Agitators and Insurrectionists, but certainly not as “Law Enforcement Officials.”
I want to know who each and every one of these so-called “Agents” are, and what they were up to on that now “Historic” Day. Many Great American Patriots were made to pay a very big price only for the love of their Country. I owe this investigation of “Dirty Cops and Crooked Politicians” to them! Christopher Wray, the then Director of the FBI, has some major explaining to do. That’s two in a row, Comey and Wray, who got caught LYING, with our Great Country at stake. WE CAN NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN TO AMERICA AGAIN!”
The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton
Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised.
Within the questions: the FBI and government apparatus had advanced knowledge of the scale of the J6 mall assembly, yet did nothing? Why were the Capitol Hill police never informed of the FBI concerns? Why didn’t House Speaker Nancy Pelosi secure the Capitol Hill complex, and why did she deny the request by President Trump to call up the national guard for security support?
Why did the FBI have agent provocateurs in the crowd, seemingly stimulating rage within a peaceful crowd to enter the Capitol building? There have always been these nagging questions around – ‘why?’
Long time CTH reader “Regitiger” spent a great deal of time reviewing the entire process, looking at the granular timeline and then overlaying the bigger picture of the constitutional and parliamentary process itself. What follows below is a brilliant analysis of the federal government motive to create a J6 crisis that permitted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to trigger an emergency session and avoid the 2020 election certification challenges.
Those congressional floor challenges, known and anticipated well in advance of the morning of January 6, 2021, would have formed a legal and constitutional basis for ‘standing’ in judicial challenges that would have eventually reached the Supreme Court. The certification during “emergency session” eliminated the problem for Washington DC.
Regitiger explains below, only edited by me for clarity and context:
I think most, not all, but a large number of people, are totally missing what happened; and why this happened on Jan 6th. I am going to try my best to outline the events that day, blast past the commonly held assumptions and get right down to the core corruption.
I will present this as a series of questions and answers.
♦ Q1: How do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?
A: It requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency” …An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.
FACTS: Remember carefully, focus please. Just moments, literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.
♦ Q2: Why was it necessary to halt the chamber process?
A: The crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud
FACTS: The two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures… procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward.
♦ Q3: What was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification?
A: It was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a SCOTUS ruling appeal! Understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS.
♦ Q4: Could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?
A: Unlikely. In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the United States: Pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.
Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, Pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary. The crisis was created because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diarrhea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.
♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?
A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!
♦ Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?
A: Members were allowed to “vote” in proxy, remotely, not being present. You can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”.
Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification, because there were no motions of disagreements on the matter. So, in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!
Understand what happened in Jan 6, 2021. Don’t get hung up on Viking impostors, stolen Pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police. Understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.
•NOTED: I understand why many people have great interest in debunking the j6 event. I get that. I think it is important to dissect and examine the events of that day but please, step back and understand WHY these things happened. Examine the chain of events in congress. Why those two motions that would have at least paused the certification THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD!
At the very center of this coup stands Mike Pence, the same individual who also spoiled President Trump’s first opportunities in the earlies hours of his Presidency just 4 years prior, when he created and facilitated the removal of Lt General Michael Flynn. I will not spend much time on this thread explaining why Lt Gen Flynn was so important to President Trump and why the IC was so afraid he would have advisory power to the President. That I will leave for another day, another time. But understand this clearly: MIKE PENCE WAS AND IS WORKING FOR THE MOST CORRUPT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.
•PRO TIP: If you really want to get a true understanding of this matter videos of protesters walking in the capitol is not going to address them. Actual video and timeline records of events and the specific actions taken by the speaker just moments before TWO MAJOR ELECTORAL ALTERING MOTIONS WERE ABOUT TO BE FLOORED.
This crisis was developed just in time with a precise coordination to prevent those two motions to be entered into the chamber record. The two motions do not exist. The emergency powers established in the new session made sure they never could be entered. The emergency powers could never happen without a crisis.
God Bless America!”
NOTE: “Under this scenario, the J6 pipe bombs were the insurance policy, in the event the feds couldn’t get the crowd to comply with the FBI provocations. If no one stormed the Capitol, the finding of the two pipe bombs would have then been the emergency needed to stop the process.” Which explains why the FBI has no interest in the DC pipe bomb suspects. ~ Sundance
Note from Author: “I started this effort years ago. To date, no one and I mean no one has replied. It’s as if everyone that can expose it that has a larger platform is either disinterested, or suspiciously withdrawn from the issue. I made several comments about this over the years right here at CTH, on article threads that are relevant to the topic.
I was watching the certification live that day. I recorded it ALL on every channel. I was doing this because no matter what happened that day, I KNEW IT WOULD BE A PROFOUND AND SIGNIFICANT EVENT TO REMEMBER. I never in my wildest imagination (and I have a pretty vivid imagination, always have), expected to see the unmistakable perfectly timed “coincidences” that occurred.
One member raises a motion (with another in waiting for his turn) those two motions were well known and advertised. These were motions to vote for a pause in the certification to examine electoral vote fraud and irregularities. I can’t speak to the veracity and substance of those motions. They were never allowed to even be floored. it was at that exact moment that the house chambers were suspended and 4 of the key members, Pence, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell were escorted OUT right after initiating the end of the session.
Effectively, this resulted in that motion never being floored at all. Then, when reconvened under special emergency rules, inexplicably those two motions (and perhaps more – we will never know – or will we?) were not even attempted to be motioned. That was not just peculiar to me.
It all started to make more sense when I did some study on constitutional law AND THE HISTORY of specific special authorities given to president of the congress, Pence in this case. Not only did he have the authority and power to suspend the certification, but the duty to address the motion in the same sense that it becomes vital to the debate clause.
There really is no higher significance of weight given to the debate clause than the certification of the votes. This was more than odd to me the way that the media and pence framed their narrative: Pence would not have the constitutional power to suspend certification. Then it hit me, like the obvious clue that was there all the time. He was right. But the reason he is right, is because there WAS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CAUSE HIM TO SUSPEND!
Understanding this, happened for me about 4 or 5 months after this Jan 6 day. I took me this long to examine the facts, look at the video again, compare it to the arguments made by several leading constitutional academics, and again, inexplicably even some that I respect seemed to dodge that central reality. The motions were never allowed to be floored in the re-convened house rules later that evening. Most would not even venture to address the exotically coincidence that the moment those two members would stand to place the motion before the house, that the House Speaker Pelosi AND Pence ended the session, effectively blocking the motions from being heard in normal house rules.
It’s been a journey for me. A journey that was initiated because I am just a simple but curious person. Perhaps even to a point where I get obsessive in those efforts. Many days and nights combing over the details. praying and trying to make sense of what makes little sense. With over 6 states having serious well known and obvious defects in the voting process, some more credible to believe – some less, but one would not expect the house would be so deliberate in marching past the motions that were definitely going to be present to slow this process down and take the time to get it right. Even IF the claims never reached an intersection that would change the outcome.
There are two possibilities: Millions of people, against all the odds, hitting all-time records even past Obama and Clinton, voted for a naval gazing ambulatory pathological racist moron. And chose Joe Malarkey as their leader. Or this was a coup, a conspiracy, and a treasonous manipulation regime change because President Trump could not be controlled by the deep state and globalists who OWN AND OPERATE WASHINGTON DC.
BOTH POSSIBILITIES ARE TERRIFYING.
The only way for THE PEOPLE to gain power in this country is to force the transfer of it. If truth isn’t the fuel and vehicle, we will just be replacing deck chairs and hitting the next series of expected ice bergs.
Knowing the truth is not enough; however, it is truth that makes it a righteous cause.
God Bless America!”
Sundance provides an addendum in support:
Julie Kelly – […] Just as the first wave of protesters breached the building shortly after 2 p.m., congressional Republicans were poised to present evidence of rampant voting fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Ten incumbent and four newly-elected Republican senators planned to work with their House colleagues to demand the formation of an audit commission to investigate election “irregularities” in the 2020 election. Absent an audit, the group of senators, including Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) pledged to reject the Electoral College results from the disputed states.
The Hail Mary effort was doomed to fail; yet the American people would have heard hours of debate related to provable election fraud over the course of the day.
And no one opposed the effort more than ex-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
During a conference call on December 31, 2020, McConnell urged his Republican Senate colleagues to abandon plans to object to the certification, insisting his vote to certify the 2020 election results would be “the most consequential I have ever cast” in his 36-year Senate career.
From the Senate floor on the afternoon of January 6, McConnell gave a dramatic speech warning of the dire consequences to the country should Republicans succeed in delaying the vote. He downplayed examples of voting fraud and even mocked the fact that Trump-appointed judges rejected election lawsuits.
“The voters, the courts, and the States have all spoken,” McConnell insisted. “If we overrule them, it would damage our Republic forever. If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral.”
Roughly six hours later, McConnell got his way. Cowed by the crowd of largely peaceful Americans allowed into the building by Capitol police, most Republican senators backed off the audit proposal. McConnell, echoing hyperbolic talking points about an “insurrection” seeded earlier in the day by Democratic lawmakers and the news media, gloated. “They tried to disrupt our democracy,” he declared on the Senate floor after Congress reconvened around 8 p.m. “This failed attempt to obstruct Congress, this failed insurrection, only underscores how crucial the task before us is for our Republic.”
Congress officially certified the Electoral College results early the next day. (read more)
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The J6 pipe bombs were the insurance policy, in the event they couldn't get the crowd to comply with the FBI provocations. If no one stormed the Capitol, the finding of the pipe bombs would have been the emergency needed to stop the process. https://t.co/JqVcGROAPN
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) March 12, 2023
More important than identifying the 274 agents … AG Bondi and Director Kash Patel need to make public ALL the Documents that DEFINE and JUSTIFIES the Operation that was conducted by these agents and ALL the others involved from DC Police and other Federal Agencies.
This number of agents and supporting (non-FBI) assets are not committed without an Operations Plan and Justification …. DoJ had to order this operation be conducted as well as Justify it.
Finally … in the narrative above there is missing a key fact …. ALL the protestors departed the Capital Building(s) and Capital Mall … ON THEIR OWN. Law enforcement did not drive them out nor did law enforcement clear the streets of DC. EVERYBODY just flat went home or back to their local lodgings on their own .. after the protest ended.
There would have 1,000’s of hours of videos had law enforcement been required to clear the Capital Buildings and Capital Mall. There is not a single second of police clearing anything.
The number of FEDS acting as protestors is far greater than 274 …. as those FEDS were actually steering the crowd through a peaceful protest that ended on it’s own.
The troops were not deployed for weeks … If this was violent insurrection …. “requiring Congress critters fearing for their lives to cower in hiding” …. why wasn’t the Rapid Response Force at Ft Bragg activated?? … why was the rapid response Force of the VA National Guard Activated??? … Why was the Stryker Reserve Brigade of the PA National Guard Brigade not activated???
There was an insurrection and coup that day, FBI were the commanding troops, and it was led by McConnell, Pelosi, Pence and Schumer.
What is the punishment for a domestic enemies led U.S. coup that gave us a fake president for four years that nearly destroyed our Republic?
I know what the punishment should be!
“This is different from what Director Christopher Wray stated, over and over again! “
So, indict Wray and put him in Comey’s cell.
Absolutly not. Put them in general population in that gulag with a random cell mate. For at least a few hours.
Treason. Sedition.
Don’t forget dear Mr. Epps…. wonder where he is???
Selling pay per view of the appropriate public hangings of the four who committed the coup against the President of the United States would likely generate enough to offset a significant portion of the overspending of the same trash
Mrs. Sunshine: “What is the punishment for a domestic enemies led U.S. coup that gave us a fake president for four years that nearly destroyed our Republic?”
THAT is the the fact of what happened, and the question not only for justice, but that MUST happen as a deterrent from this ever happening again
I’m trying to hold my breath on this one.
I exhale when I realize that PDJT is in his second term with third-term wisdom. I too would like to see every one of those verminous frauds brought to hard justice. But if some of them manage to postpone their justice to the Four Last Things, I never dreamt on 1/6/2021 that we’d be where we are on 9/27/2025.
Yet establishment-owned Blondi and Patel will do none of that. Not even sure PDJT wants them to.
If you watch the videos…
FBI instigators are identifiable…Gray was ‘the color of the day’
Perhaps, but I think it better if the people tell the officials and elected folks, what to do.
It’s just that old Jeffersonian thing….
I don’t think that’s more important than naming the agents.
I think bringing it down to the level of people and their names is necessary and appropriate.
Otherwise, its just all abstract blah, blah,blah and goes over the heads of a great majority of people.
Name names.
And when you name names start interviewing them and they will talk they will tell you where the operational plan was written by Whom
Yes, and even more important, name the names of those who told the 275 to do it.
But we must catch the planners.
Interrogate the grey clad agents and instigators (who directed you, how did you hear about it, what were your instructions, how were they conveyed to you?)
If you don’t answer/cooperate you are considered to be the instigator and you go to the same cells where the falsely accused J6 patriots went.
This article explains why the BRUNSON lawsuit, which is tabled at the Supreme Court, is so important to this country. It seeks the removal from congress of all those who voted to certify this fraudulent election and refused to take the time to investigate the affidavits and witnesses to ELECTION fraud and wrongdoing in the 2020 election!
Merrick Garland, Chris Wray and Jack Smith NEVER thought that Donald Trump would win the election in November 2024!!! They felt invincible especially with the Bolshevik judges in Washington DC and the SDNY to protect them!
Well, they had to know after Kamala became their candidate that DJT would win.
Two attempts to take him out before the election were the backup plan.
My thoughts as well!
I believe the Auto Pen pardoned Gen. Mark Milley.
Now imagine if that coup had failed, and through whatever procedure, President Trump was allowed to take his second term in 2020. It is conceivable that the second term would have been similar to the first….impeachments, hidden deep state agents continuing in the administration, etc. While the four Biden years were nothing short of a nightmare, personally, I feel that those years were needed as they were, in order open the eyes of a sleeping voting public to see the alternatives presented in a corrupt Democrat administration. It was the 4 years of Biden that heralded a 2024 election that was ‘too big to fail’ and gave President Trump his second term. There are many, many more people awake now than would have been if the Trump years ended in 2024.
I don’t deny that 47’s scope and determination is superior to what President Trump’s as 46 would have been.
However, addressing and rectifying all that occurred that kept Donald Trump from what should have been his rightful 2020 reelection is paramount to restoring justice in our nation.
The full might of our government was used to target, persecute and silence the American people and our duly elected president.
Until that is corrected, our republic remains in peril.
A good unintended outcome from a crime isn’t a mitigating factor for the criminals committing the predicate crime.
No, but this is clear demonstration of Romans 8:28
God works all things together for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.
AMEN!!
Hear! Hear!
And if the coup failed, and VISIBLY so, then PDJT may have had everything he needed to clean house at the time, and we’d be living in America again..
Would he have? I think he cares too much about human life – even the most evil – to do that, but he would have had the motive and the opportunity.
🎯
God works in mysterious ways – but always for ultimate good.
The corollary…always, always, always.
He will bring good out of evil.
In this case, it seems that by the illegal and corrupt actions of the cabal on January 6, 2021 (and before in the 2020 fraudulent election) it is to be hoped that the hubristic true insurrectionists will be hearing the hard knock of nemesis at their doors. Their traitorous actions have sent it by the hand of the man whom they thought they’d destroyed.
God and His mysterious ways willing.
AMEN!!!
DIVINE INTERVENTION!
Yes. And Pence would be VP!
Yikes!
In Recovery circles, they speak of “hitting your bottom”. I believe Autopen pushed another 10-15% in our direction.
For all the terrible things that happened in Biden’s term, it brought more to light. It allowed the US citizens to continue to wake up. It allowed Charlie Kirk to build momentum.
It allowed Donald Trump to continue to observe the RINOs blow their cover, plan for the election, plan to continue the MAGA education of the American people.
God is Good. All the time.
Trump Suggested the January 6th Riot Was “Government Staged”Trump reposted a meme claiming the riot was used to steal the election from him
https://meidasnews.com/news/trump-suggested-the-january-6th-riot-was-government-staged
AND NANCY PELOSI Is the MAIN Leader who PLANNED it ALL as Speaker of the House!
She’s evil and smart, but this is too large scale. I would suspect there’s a military espionage element to this.
And her daughter was there to film it all.
Would Epps break?
Deep State staged a coup.
So this is VSG calling out no-Kash to get off his keister just like he did with Blondie?
Kash give us the list, make it public!
Bongo Dan how about you helping out?
Frick and Frack this is your moment in history.
great work, Regitiger
fascinating read and you made everything fit in place nicely
keep it up!
It was so interesting watching your insights in real time!
Amazing this story never got more traction!!!
No, I don’t think it is. Doesn’t surprise me at all!
They need to expose the FBI pipe bomb planter first.
They know who he is.
Make him talk.
He need to explain who exactly told him ti plant it and why.
Take names and keep going higher until you find the mastermind.
This will expose their whole plot.
Excellent point!!!!!!!!
“They know who he is.”
They know who she is.
And who built the “gallows” in the early morning hours, so strategically placed as to cause media speculation? They know who did it.
If anyone is wondering what this comment refers to, here is the video about it.
https://open.ink/collections/j6-gallows
Kamala Stumbled Into J6 Pipe Bomb Plot
https://jackcashill.substack.com/p/kamala-stumbled-into-j6-pipe-bomb
Interview every one of those FBI agents. Interview Pelosi, Pence, those that walked out. Interview Schumer. Compare their stories. Ask them to recall and explain every move they made.
Does anybody else see that a lot of traitorous Democrat agendas are being exposed now. I am now starting to have hope that these Traitors will be taken down.
Agreed! I think it is GO time!!
have always held out hope there was a RICO case being formed behind the scenes. So many have admitted to crimes in front of congress under oath with little or no consequence then they voluntarily resigned their positions of power.
If the bastard wins, we’ll all hang. They were never afraid of consequences because they believed they held all the levers of power. The Biden cheat was soooooo obvious but they had this clever plan to install him. They NEVER dreamed Trump could come back as 47.
This will get violent now, but their violence only gives Trump
more power. At this point, everything they do only makes it worse.
It’s not JUST the crime but the coverup that will get them.
By who? Green attorneys from Tallahassee University?
There’s a reason top firms hire lawyers from top universities. Iron sharpens iron, Mock Juries, top professors, top legal reviews.
All of Sundance & Regitiger’s articles on the Treehouse exposing the Fedsurrection. This was high treason stealing our elections, though I do believe this has been going on a long long time. I know they stole the 96 GOP Primaries from Pat Buchanan & his Make America First Again campaign.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=fedsurrection
THANK YOU, COLKITTO!
What an excellent compilation of articles for all of us to share with our non-believers.
It’s folks like you Colkitto, Regitiger (the Sherlock Holmes of our era), Sundance and GOD that make us wiser and stronger.
Please let us all keep praying to God while not ignoring the fact that we are still fighting on Pork Chop Hill.
My appreciation friend Thor.
appreciated.
noting: this work is NOT finished and I’ve made that very clear the moment I contacted Sundance and urged him to publish my findings. It pleases me that Sundance and MANY OTHERS understood exactly why I had written that I had not covered the entire arc of the story here, simply because I just don’t have that kind of talent…or time *most unfortunately, I do not have unlimited time and resources to push past the limits I hit* what IS pleasing to me and encourages me is that this story even told uncompleted has been met with many people who have gone far beyond it…specifically, the FBI assets in the “riot” and of course the two pipe bombs. Those two elements of this story I did not include, simply because I had not focused on them at the time I wrote the article. I left it as my own “last” final draft with the proviso that the rest of this story belongs to YOU. What you make of it and how you can develop it. I stated these things because I understood my own limitations, but also because I also realize that over time, more details would become more clear as long as my fellow treepers would be willing to continue to
ask
the
right
effing
questions.
I’ve not been disappointed in team treehouse.
I am somewhat frustrated by a seemingly uninterested Congress, fbi and DOJ to open investigations into these matters. I have high hopes that kash, bongo and bondi would be working to assemble at least 500-1000 investigators to start grand jury panels by now. Because that really is the scale of this corruption…so many people involved that need to be investigated and charged.
I will never allow myself to remain defeated about the truth. Whether “my government” gets it right or not, does not remove my own responsibilities to right wrongs.
and I made that promise and have every intention in seeing this through.
God Bless America
Thank you Sir!
“….eternal hostility to every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Thomas Jefferson
Many of us used you & Sundance’s articles/research to direct many Congressional aides to read,share, and spread. I thank you for your military service, this, and your numerous posts over the years here. Thank you sir.
I am pretty sure Sundance has many many copies of everything on the CTH in multi copy and with alternative means to publish AND keep the Treehouse community together. Our Unity is important to this country.
I know there are other communities — are they like us? I would love to see a compiled list of communities. But it would become a target
Just ask Patel, he “runs” the FBI, yes? And he reports to Trump, right?
Well, so did Chris Wray! 🫡
Patel reports to Bondi
Q1: How do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?
No, the crisis referred to was the riot. Only something like a RIOT, or some kind of natural disaster, can delay the execution of the process laid out in the Electoral Count act.
Q2: Why was it necessary to halt the chamber process?
A: The crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud.
First of all, there are no motions allowed during the Joint Session of Congress. The only thing allowed is the acceptance of legitimate (according to the Electoral Count Act) OBJECTIONS to the reading of an individual state’s Certificate of Ascertainment, filed with the Vice President’s office as part of the VP’s responsibilities as President of the Senate. When an objection is accepted by the VP, the two Houses separate, which temporarily halts what was referred to as “the CHAMBER process, which is the reading of the Certificates of Ascertainment, filed by each state’s governor, and read to the Joint Session by the Tellers, who are Senators and Representatives. The objection is debated in the Senate and House chambers SEPARATELY for two hours and then vote. When voting is done, the Senate returns to the House CHAMBER where the Joint Session of Congress resumes after each House reports the results of the vote to the President of the Senate. If one house votes for the ticket that the governor reported in the Certificate of Ascertainment as the winner, then Electoral Votes are ones that are accepted. The Democrats controlled the House. Biden was destined to win. Ted Cruz admitted that in his speech during the debate about the objection to the results reported in Arizona’s Certificate of Ascertainment. That debate was going on when the evacuation occurred.
The riot delayed the debate and vote on the Objection, which was a challenge to the Electoral Vote results for Arizona in the Certificate of Ascertainment. The Pennsylvania objection was heard after the riot and went down to defeat like the Arizona objection. Here’s what happened to the others:
During the Electoral Vote Count in 2021, two objections met the requirements for a full debate in both the House and Senate: one for Arizona’s electoral votes and another for Pennsylvania’s.
Several other states also had objections submitted, but they were dismissed because they did not receive the required support from both a House member and a senator.
Q3: What was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification?
Objections are NOT motions. There are no motions or debates or votes permitted in a JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS. The two Houses do not debate and vote as ONE BODY, but as Separate Bodies, even if the Joint Session is about a DECLARATION OF WAR. No motions. No debates. You confusing objections with motions. Objections are specifically laid out and described in the Electoral Count Act. TWO OBJECTIONS were debated by the House and Senate in separate chambers according to the Electoral Count Act. Those objections were involving the Certificates of Ascertainment from Arizona and Pennsylvania. Both were debated and both objections lost.
Q4: Could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?
The Electoral Count itself was delayed by the riot and the pipe bomb (likely hoax). What it might have done is cost the other Objections not to receive the signatures of one Representative and one Senator. Without both signatures, no debate/vote in separate chambers would occur. ONLY the Arizona and Pennsylvania objections were debated and voted on in separate chambers by House and Senate. As I pointed out before, with the Democrats in the House voting for the Certificates of Ascertainment in both Objections, there was no hope for ANY of the objections to win the vote.
Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?
THERE ARE NO “MOTIONS” ACCEPTED IN ANY JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS. THERE ARE NO DEBATES AND THERE ARE NO VOTES IN A JOINT SESSION. See again the description of how OBJECTIONS come up in Joint Session to count Electoral Votes. Here are procedures:
(1). The Vice President opens the Certificate and hands it to a Teller.
(2). The Teller reads the results as documented in the Certificate of Ascertainment.
(3). The Vice President calls for any Objection. The VP already has a copy of the Objection.
(4). A Senator or Member of the House declares there is an objection.
(5). The VP announces that the objection is either proper or not. If proper, he calls for the two houses to separate and debate and vote about the Objection for a period of 2 hours.
This is how it is done and was done that way on 1/6/2021 with the two legitimate Objections, legitimate because: (a). In writing. (b). Signed by a Senator and a Representative.
Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?
There were no emergency rule changes regarding the Electoral Count on 1/6/2021. They can’t do that as the procedures were CODIFIED under the Electoral Count Act. If there is a valid OBJECTION, the VP separates the two houses with the Senate retiring to their chamber for debate and vote. The riot started during the debate of the Arizona Objection and the process was resumed after reconvening. When Pennsylvania’s votes came up in the alphabetical reading of the Certificates of Ascertainment, the houses were separated again for debate and vote.
Let me again remind you that, with the House in control by the Democrats, any Certificate of Ascertainment that was challenged by a legitimate objection, was doomed to defeat because it only takes one house of Congress to vote for the Certificate of Ascertainment, for those Electoral Votes to be accepted.
This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.
I don’t understand the reference to “debate clause.” There is no debate in Joint Session–ANY JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS. Once the session reconvened, debates on the Arizona and Pennsylvania objections were carried out according to the Electoral Count Act.
THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD!
No, those Objections could not do that. They were an attempt to get CONGRESS to vote to have the irregularities and claims of fraud examined. Ted Cruz pointed this out at the very start of the debate over the Arizona Objection. Go watch the video. It is still up on You Tube. The CSpan video is a good one to watch. They weren’t trying to get Pence to do anything. That wasn’t a part of the Objection.
There are more Constitutional experts than John Eastman who think the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional and that Vice Presidents can make decisions as Trump appeared to want Pence to make. The fact is, that not everyone in positions like Congress agree that the Electoral IS unconstitutional. Most of Congress appears instead to be in agreement that the Electoral Count Act controls this procedure.
Since letting the whole thing play out was NOT going to interfere with Biden’s certification, the REAL QUESTION is–Why was a riot permitted to get that far out of hand? Biden was going to get certified because the Electoral Count Act has that ONE HOUSE rule that it only takes ONE HOUSE to vote for the Certificate of Ascertainment for that certificate’s Electoral Votes to be accepted, and the House was always going to vote for the Biden Certificates of Ascertainment after a debate about an Objection to the Certificate of Ascertainment. There was no need for the Democrats to encourage a riot, or to set up the conditions by which a riot to take place. At least we know that the ELECTORAL VOTE COUNT ITSELF WAS NOT THE MOTIVE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
So, why the riot? To justify going after Trump and his supporters for an “Insurrection,” even though no one indicted was charged with violating the Rebellion and Insurrection Act. They couldn’t prove an insurrection took place, but they could charge and convict on other charges giving the appearance of guilt for insurrection and/or terrorism and treason. It could inspire legislation branding certain domestic groups as Terrorists.
The Electoral Vote Count had nothing to do with any manipulation of the events, including provocation of a riot to get the appearance of an “insurrection.”
I hope this clears things up.
You know, even Norm Eisen wrote nothing Trump could do would stop Biden from being certified.
https://statesuniteddemocracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/VPP-Guide-to-Counting-Electoral-Votes.pdf
So, the riot was not necessary to help Biden get certified. That wasn’t a motive for it on the Democrat side. If they wanted a riot, it was something else. My best analysis it was to discredit Trump, get him indicted, and go after any of his supporters that they could. The riot caused nothing else to happen and did not cause anything but a slight delay in Biden’s certification just as Eisen predicted, which is interesting.
Senate Debate of Arizona’s Certificate of Ascertainment:
House Debate of Arizona’s Certificate of Ascertainment:
Constitutionality of the Electoral Count Act:
https://scholarship.law.unc.edu/nclr/vol80/iss5/4/
The Electoral Count Act:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15
Well, alrighty then.
As you state, the events of 1/6 were clearly meant to serve as the rationale to disqualify President Trump’s return to the Government as well as physically destroy him via the legal system.
After 20 January 2021:
In parallel, there was legislative activity by Uni-Party Congress that directly impacted future elections based on 1/6 Events as well as actions that were attempted but failed based on 1/6 Events.
The one legislative action that did succeed was “Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022”. It greatly watered down the VP’s abilities and Congress’ ability to anything much more than rubber stamping State Certified election results.
The legislation that failed was the one related to establishing a “board” that would assess “the truth and veracity” of a political party’s campaign rhetoric … and be empowered to sanction as well as close down a political party for offenses.
These are at 3 major reasons to plan and conduct the events of 1/6.
There is also a purpose nobody wants to explore …. that this was an attempt by the democrats to provoke an armed confrontation that would remove via legal action the entire Republican Party and Anything as well as Anybody affiliated with the Republican Party. … leaving the US as a literally 1-Party nation. 3-days ago Senator Blumental publicly stated the democrats plan revenge upon regaining the Presidency and I believe they plan to finish this part of the plan. The Republicans are just too stupid or bought into flipping to the Uni_party to see it.
It greatly watered down the VP’s abilities and Congress’ ability to anything much more than rubber stamping State Certified election results.
With the OLD Electoral Count Act in place, there was nothing explicit in the statute for the VP to do much of anything except as the “presiding parliamentarian.” All 2022 did was make that official. The whole intent of the Electoral Count Act was to remove the VP from unilateral decisions, so none were set forth in the statute, while Congress, on the other hand, would decide on objections and/or “competing slates.” This was all to avoid another Hayes-Tilden crisis as in 1877 when the idea of the VP deciding the outcome was ruled out and a Bi-Partisan Commission looked at the competing slates that were submitted.
For clarity sake … which version of the “Electoral Count Act” are you referencing??
There is the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022, which greatly weakened and altered the original Act.
… and … there is the original Electoral Count Act of 1887.
Great question I would like to see answered. If Guy has it right, what it tells me is that we are missing something.
My critique of Guy’s critique:
1: There is NO chance that literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions [objections] to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.
I’m just an armchair quarterback …. But I would be willing to bet money that the key that unlocks why this happened 3 minutes before was the NEED to remove these key players from the room.
You appear to be an expert, Guy, but you don’t seem to know what the reason for removing them at this moment time is.
But thanks for likely answering the question when you shared this tidbit:
“There are more Constitutional experts than John Eastman who think the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional and that Vice Presidents can make decisions as Trump appeared to want Pence to make. The fact is, that not everyone in positions like Congress agree that the Electoral IS unconstitutional. Most of Congress appears instead to be in agreement that the Electoral Count Act controls this procedure.”
I’m just spitballing here, but I suspect this somehow covered their a$$ should future rulings on this point not go their way.
Also, like you said, “What it might have done is cost the other Objections not to receive the signatures of one Representative and one Senator”
Perhaps, for reasons unclear, that is not as insignificant as you claim.
Perhaps to avoid this: “The Hail Mary effort was doomed to fail; yet the American people would have heard hours of debate related to provable election fraud over the course of the day.”
I don’t know. But i
I believe there is Zero chance that that there was not a very specific reason that the protestors entered 3 minutes before the actions to suspend certifications took place and the key players left the room.
THAT is precisely the issue that triggered my suspicions. The timing of the end of the session, just as Hawley, I think it was put a MOTION on the floor to vote on having a debate about certification.
I think it was hawley. My understanding, according to prior statements made by several members was that at least three members were going to similarly stand up and request a motion for similar debate clause action.
none of that happened, because “the riot happened, and pelosi, schumer, mcconnel and pence” were escorted out of chamber. end of session
the timing was just too obvious. this was not coincidental. extremely improbable when you consider what the most likely object of that discussion was going to be. a serious inquiry about irregularities..at least to put things on pause and make sure the certification was on the up and up. I think that is all we can look back and reasonably have expected to have happened, as the certification was going to happen anyway…pelosi rules and Mike DENSE insisting he was the official potted plant and nothing more.
that’s a whole BUNCH of coordination taking place IF THE OUTCOME WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE INSTALLING BIDEN ANYWAY.
It’s ridiculous to imagine taking that much coordination, resources and timing it just precisely and not believe this was the result of a planned coup. you just can’t unseen it, once you realize all of these things happen in a time chain that is beyond remarkable.
I will give the secret police spy state some credit, some respect…they do not how to build nations…I think that is what they call it.
God Bless America
“The timing of the end of the session, just as Hawley, I think it was put a MOTION on the floor to vote on having a debate about certification.”
No, it was Ted Cruz. You can watch it below. I put a link to the debate. Here are details from Google:
During the 2021 Senate debate on the certification of the Electoral College votes, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas formally led the objection to Arizona’s votes.
Details of the objection
House and Senate support: According to the rules at the time, an objection to a state’s electoral votes had to be made in writing and signed by at least one member from both the House and the Senate to be debated.House leadership: Republican Representative Paul Gosar of Arizona initiated the objection in the House.Senate leadership: Senator Ted Cruz then officially added his name, triggering the required debate in both chambers.Supporting senators: Six Republican senators ultimately voted to sustain the objection to Arizona’s electoral votes, including:Ted Cruz of TexasJosh Hawley of MissouriCindy Hyde-Smith of MississippiJohn Kennedy of LouisianaRoger Marshall of KansasTommy Tuberville of Alabama The Senate ultimately rejected the objection to Arizona’s votes by a vote of 6–93.
The important thing here is this took place in the Senate Chamber, not in the Joint Session of Congress.
That 93-6 vote was post-riot. I wonder what it would have been if there had not been a riot? Interesting.
“There is NO chance that literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions [objections] to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers.”
You have no real idea, and have no real idea, about the 3 minutes. All we have are conjectures. Read the Electoral Count Act. It controls everything. The riot couldn’t even shut it down. There are no votes in a Joint Session of Congress, so no votes for suspending the certification were held by the Joint Session. The debate over the Arizona objection was underway when riot took place. THAT WAS WHERE THERE WAS A VOTE ABOUT SUSPENDING THE ELECTORAL COUNT FOR A REVIEW OF THE VOTE. When the riot ended, and the Joint Session was reconvened, the houses went to their separate debate and vote over the Arizona objection, that included request for a suspension of the count. The vote failed since the Democrats controlled the House.
You can watch the debate yourself on You Tube, or do it here. I linked them in my post.
Again, objections are not motions. The VP brings up objections and checks to see if it is in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one Representative circa 2021. No motions allowed in a Joint Session of Congress. No votes allowed in the Joint Session of Congress.
Also, I included that part about Mr. Eastman because it is important to note that more than one Constitutional scholar agrees with him, and in the link I posted the reasons for that particular writer to form the conclusion that the statute is unconstitutional are really interesting. It is not an extreme position. It is also interesting that he didn’t think the objections for Arizona and Pennsylvania were valid objections.
Why did you call my answers to regitiger’s QUESTIONS a CRITIQUE? I interpreted regitiger’s writing with the desire to have someone answer his questions. That is what I did. If he was expressing an opinion, or giving us a theory about what happened, and I attempted to refute it, that would be a critique. Answers to questions are not critiques. It is passing along information to help someone who apparently needed help understanding some elements of the incident.
“Perhaps, for reasons unclear, that is not as insignificant as you claim.”
Why do judge that I thought it was INSIGNIFICANT? I never wrote that I thought that it was insignificant. I merely stated it is another possible reason for what happened. Why apply the adjective when I never even hinted as to its significance of lack of same?
Oh, by the way, I found the REDACTED video about the Pelosi family documentary about January 6, 2021.
He cited the 2022 Act, which of course was not in effect at the time of the 2021 electoral count.
No. If you read the main body, that was all the 2021 version of the statute. I just put a link to it is all. It clearly marked as changed since 2021. All my notes were gathered while writing extensively about this subject on both Twitter (X) and here, including defending the Trump Elector Nominees from charges of committing fraud by filing their Certificates of Votes. The first or second time the regitiger article was written, I replied to all the questions. I have a copy of the old statute, but I can’ find a link to it. There weren’t many changes from the 2021 statute. The new one EXPLICITLY limits the President of the Senate to only a ceremonial power, but they never attempted to be much else after the statute was passed post 1877. The big change was that it takes a lot more signatures of Representatives and Senators to get a legitimate objection accepted. The dead giveaway that I using the 2021 version is my reference to only one Representative and one Senator required to sign an objection to get it debated in separate chambers.
I am referring, logically, to only that version which was in effect on 1/6/2021. The version AFTER the events of 1/6/2021 had nothing to do with the six questions and the few comments attached to about which I responded.
Also, the dead giveaway that i was using the 2021 version is that I stated it only took ONE Representative and ONE Senator to sign an objection to have it accepted. That changed in 2022.
interesting indeed.
I have an open mind, and am willing to acknowledge that I may not have all of my “legal facts” correct. But I stand by my opinion about this.
and here is why.
you make it clear that the riots were not necessary to get Biden certified (he is most definitely certifiable, but I think everyone KNOWS THAT BY NOW)., and you make a reasonable argument that it was simply to set the stage to continue to persecute and undermine President Trump.
but. lets think about that. If the certification was going to happen anyway, why bother? why bother planting 247 + secret police spy state stooges in the crowd, why would the capitol police literally open the doors and let them in, and clash with protestors…why did the entire thing get way way out of hand is the election was a slam dunk? Your notion that this was all some coordination to develop a case against President Trump can be true, but it is equally reasonable to assume that they were concerned that it could be possible that Congress might have questions about the irregularities…despite the pelosi rules you describe, despite that the house was in dem radical control. And why the two pipe bombs. You are looking directly at the same things I am. we come to different ideas about why these things happened. I do not believe in coincidences. Not on that day.
why would pelosi advance a bill just months later trying to redescribe the power of the president of the senate (the vice president), as limited to nothing more than a rubber stamp, if that power did not actually exist to have the VP halt the certification and get down to the debate clause and start driving toward getting some sunlight about how at least 4 states broke their own constitutional limits in that election…the privately bought drop boxes…the mail in votes where the machines had to be returned to around 50 percent accurate to allow for signatures that otherwise the machines were rejecting. I can go on and on about these irregularities and I am sure you are aware of them. As well, we are both quite aware of the amazing number of courts that systematically denied claims and suits about the irregularities that usually were decided simply on standing issues, not merits.
why would pelosi advance those bill, which by the way STILL remains in the Senate..unpassed…that would delimit the power of the VP as a mere rubber stamp?
next, I disagree about how the debate clause and joint sessions operate. they operate according to rules established by the house and specifically by rules voted by the dem majority. Those same rules meant that anyone who is not a member of a committee or having a friend who could do it in their favor, would not be recognized to make motions on the floor…this wasn’t the creation of pelosi, but she weaponized it in ways that had not been seen before. Well sort of. McCarthy would later get tortured for not exercising the same level of power as speaker (among many other legitimate reasons for his ouster).
lastly, lets inspect history for guidance. How many times has certification of a presidential vote been delayed and for what reasons and why whom?
In each of the cases, the vice president, presiding over and having authority to do so, suspended the session so that these matters could be discussed, debated, and voted on.
So vice president DENSE did have the power, but refused to act. He said as much. Why would he do that? why would he claim to not have this power…even IF the outcome was never going to change, as you suggest is true. Why would he make this claim? is he just stupid, or corrupt? both?
I come to a different opinion about the matter because of the stakes involved. because of the previous years, almost a decade of corruption in the entire secret police spy state to make sure someone like President Trump, a free man, would ever take power…more to the point, they simply could never allow someone into the Whitehouse that they could not control.
thus, they installed Biden through layers of corruptions, starting with the media blitz to narrate Trump as the devil himself, two impeachments, a littany of scandalous claims of sexual mischief, 40 years ago you know, and generally referring to law abiding God fearing maga people as reprobate, unschooled, crazy, deplorables and worst…racists and bigots…then pounced on the “magic” of a bioweapon that was released to kill millions and turn up the fear factor, and then basically tossed out all reasonable levels of common sense to actually have a legitimate vote. They did all of these things, not because they hated President Trump, but because they could NOT CONTROL HIM. and the difference is the truth that leads me to believe my version of the story is more truthful than your occam’s…perhaps I’ll leave it at this. We can both be right in some ways about what happened. I think we can both agree (at least I hope I can) is if Congress wanted to make sure people didn’t ask serious questions about how the living eff did the basement dwelling Joe malarkey get elected, they would do the things I just described…which they did…perhaps the way I describe the process might be somewhat different than how you are taught or how you understand Congress operates, I concede that. But as you say in your own writing, the house was going to make this happen no matter what.
the no matter what part is worth questioning. I question that because now more than ever it really matters to understand just how evil these radical left commie bastards are. They have literally set this country on fire. And for what? so they can have exclusive power and tell you what to think and how you should say it.
bull shit. if I’m off on a few items, I directly over the target on 500.
God Bless America
“If the certification was going to happen anyway, why bother? why bother planting 247 + secret police spy state stooges in the crowd, why would the capitol police literally open the doors and let them in, and clash with protestors…”
Looks like an insurrection. Pelosi’s daughter or niece was filming the thing for a documentary she was making, and there were people with cameras all over the place. That was why the National Guard was told to stand down. If they were just there in numbers, I don’t think it gets out of hand. There is also evidence of scenes being filmed in more than one “take.” I’ll have to find that link.
“In each of the cases, the vice president, presiding over and having authority to do so, suspended the session so that these matters could be discussed, debated, and voted on.”
Yes, according to the Electoral Count Act, the President of the Senate (VP) MUST call for a suspension of the Joint Session of Congress for 2 hours of debate in separate chambers by House and Senate. The statute does not allow the VP to suspend the count itself. The count goes on after the debates and votes on objections.
“And why the two pipe bombs. You are looking directly at the same things I am. we come to different ideas about why these things happened. I do not believe in coincidences. Not on that day.”
The two pipe bombs also make the whole incident look like an insurrection. As to coincidences, that word is misused all the time. Events can CO-INCIDE, either as a result of HUMAN PLANNING, or just by ACCIDENT. It can be either, as Julian Assange pointed out in his interview about the Clinton emails on 6/12/2016 when he said he would have Wikileaks, “publish the emails COINCIDENT TO the Democratic National Committee. Coincidence is NOT a synonym for “Accident.”
“In each of the cases, the vice president, presiding over and having authority to do so, suspended the session so that these matters could be discussed, debated, and voted on.”
Those decisions by the Vice Presidents involved was purely ceremonial as the parliamentarian over Joint Sessions of Congress. That was in keeping with the procedures set forth in the Electoral Count Act. The Republicans, in 1876, advocated that the GOP VP could decide on what votes would count, but the Democrats rejected that notion and they settled a Commission to sort the whole thing out. Since the passage of the Electoral Count Act, after the 1876 election, no one has thought of the VP making those decisions until Eastman raised the issue. VPs did make decisions in at least two races prior to 1876. One was John Adams. I think Jefferson was another one.
The thing to remember is: The Electoral Count Act put Congress in charge of certifying the elections of President. Not the VP alone, but the Congress deals with these disputes unless lawsuits bring in SCOTUS.
the thing to remember is that congress completely failed to recognize the fraud and coup. they needed a crisis …a boogie man so the entire country could rally behind them for “keeping the democracy safe”.
so they created a crisis.
you really should try to be more alert. everyone knows. facts aren’t a straight line, and math can’t solve corruption. Truth and the courage to see things as they are…not what we want them to be.
God Bless America
the thing to remember is that congress completely failed to recognize the fraud and coup. they needed a crisis …a boogie man so the entire country could rally behind them for “keeping the democracy safe”.
No, my position this was a false flag to accuse Trump and his followers of plotting to overthrow the “democracy.” I made that completely clear that is my position.
you really should try to be more alert. everyone knows. facts aren’t a straight line, and math can’t solve corruption. Truth and the courage to see things as they are…not what we want them to be.
I never said, “math can solve corruption.” Facts, however, are facts, whether in a straight line or not.
“I disagree about how the debate clause and joint sessions operate. they operate according to rules established by the house and specifically by rules voted by the dem majority. Those same rules meant that anyone who is not a member of a committee or having a friend who could do it in their favor, would not be recognized to make motions on the floor…this wasn’t the creation of pelosi, but she weaponized it in ways that had not been seen before.”
You can disagree all you want about Joint Sessions of Congress. The fact is, a Joint Session is unlike most of the proceedings in Congress. The types of Joint Sessions include:
(1). Joint Session to hear the State of the Union Address.
(2). Joint Session to listen to the President request a Declaration of War. You get two responses, one from the House and one from the Senate.
(3). Joint Session to hear an address by a foreign dignitary.
(4). Electoral Vote Count and certification.
Common rules for all joint sessions
Convening the session: A joint session is called by the adoption of a concurrent resolution by both the House and the Senate.Venue: Joint sessions are typically held in the House Chamber of the U.S. Capitol.Seating: Seating is arranged for both members of the House and Senate, along with reserved seating for the Cabinet, Supreme Court justices, the Diplomatic Corps, and military leaders.No legislative function: The session is a ceremonial or formal occasion, and no legislative business is conducted. This means no resolutions can be proposed, and no votes are taken during the session itself.No debate: Debate is not permitted during a joint session. The presiding officer is responsible for maintaining order.
I studied these Joint Sessions looking for vulnerabilities in Jack Smith’s Obstruction Case against Trump for 1/6/2021. A Joint Session is nothing like the investigative hearing of a Congressional Committee which includes witness testimony under oath, subpoenas being issued, possible criminal referrals coming from them, etc. 18 United States Code 1512 is full of such references in addition to the participation of judges, law enforcement, and the prosecution of perjury when people lie under oath in front of a Congressional Committee. I argued in several debates that the Joint Session of Congress is not a Congressional Proceeding for the purpose of enforcing 18 USC 1512 since Joint Sessions are Ceremonial in nature and the procedures for the Electoral Vote Count are codified under the Electoral Count Act.
Why cite (and mislabel) the 2022 statute, instead of the actual Electoral Count Act in effect on Jan. 6, 2021?
Why neglect any discussion of §5 of the ECA, prescribing which of competing electoral slates prevail under objection?
Why disregard entirely that:
*Competing electoral slates were the core of the 1/6/21 objections;
*The murky language of §5 of the ECA provided fertile ground for disputing whether a given slate under objection had been appointed by the proper state authority;
*For a time, it was far from certain that the ECA’s seemingly precise prescription of separating from joint session to respectively debate and vote on objections would circumscribe the dispute over certain competing slates;
*Raising the prospect that further inquiry could be required to determine legitimacy at the state level and calling on Pence to make rulings not clearly contemplated by the ECA.
FWIW, I believe there are serious questions to be raised about the regitiger theory, and its core tenet that Pelosi had such control of a joint session so as to effectively declare an emergency, adjourn it, and reconvene it under rules inconsistent with the ECA, controlled by her and the not the Vice President.
But citing a non-controlling statute and skipping over the actual proceedings that took place in favor of fast-fowarding to the final outcome–failure of any objection to carry in either chamber–doesn’t address those questions.
it pleases me to see this debate happens.
plainly, I wrote this story and my opinion about that day with the complete understanding the work is unfinished.
and here we are years later, still debating the details and the facts. This is good in some ways and I am absolutely confident in team treehouse to tease out those details and facts.
but also this: never forget the big picture. Congress failed to act on an abundance of reasons and evidence to halt the certification and take more time to make sure the fraud was not allowed.
they did not do that. it was a complete failure.
lets remember and be clear about this. whether or not there are rules or even laws…the certification of votes is THE MOST CONSTITUTIONALLY FOUNDATIONALLY IMPORTANT FUNCTION OF CONGRESSS> these people are and the institution IS a republic that has the sacred oath and duty to represent not just the people, but truth. They failed in this and whether we argue about what happened on that day must never cloud over or excuse these people for failing to act responsibly.
they denied a properly election President Trump, simply because they could not bear the political costs…they denied him his legitimate place as President because they could not control him..and control him, means literally trillions…trillions. Therefore, they did what no other congress in history has ever committed: they created or were complicit in conspiring to have a crisis, an emergency, and this would give them the excuse to hurry hurry and ignore the obvious questions that every single human being with two neurons was already noticing:
how on earth is it possible that a navel gazing senile ambulatory pathological liar and cheat, Joe malarkey get more votes in history than even Obama and Clinton?
THAT is the big picture.
people in record numbers, even higher than Obama and Clinton, voted for Joe malarkey, a senile navel gazing senile ambulatory pathological liar and cheat, who could not draw more than 1,000 people in a any rally, and thus he won the election fair and square.
OR
this was coup. The election was defrauded, because President Trump representing a risk to the institutions of power was so threatening (it is), and realizing he could not be controlled, the corruptors literally stole the election and installed a plastic potted plant.
both possibilities are equally terrifying.
now, let that big picture seriously soak in….Congress acted in good faith on that day?
now look at all of the facts ..the riots…the so called insurrections…how the media falsely established so rapidly how President Trump was directing the riot..encouraging it. look at the hundreds of FBI agents…capitol police opening doors, allowing people to flood in…the two pipe bombs…still a mystery.
isn’t it quite startling when you draw back and realize that this is what a coup actually looks like?
in broad day light.
it all lines up.
it was treason.
wall papered by “well meaning” congressional members who chose to simply not demand answers and adjust their decisions. They needed Trump to go away…both parties. he was too much of a liability because he would never play ball with the institutions of power.
get it.
the big picture.
I do…and I am quite certain I am not alone in some desert with this reality.
God Bless America
“Competing electoral slates were the core of the 1/6/21 objections”
No, those certificates filed by Trump Electors from those states were NOT BROUGHT INTO THE SESSION BY PENCE. Therefore, the “competing slates” were not the core of the debate over the Certificates of Ascertainment. The contents in the Objections were.
Why cite (and mislabel) the 2022 statute, instead of the actual Electoral Count Act in effect on Jan. 6, 2021?
Because that is the only link I could find. Why would I be describing the 2022 version when it was the 2021 version? It’s clearly marked that way. I would to find a copy of it online circa 2021, but haven’t found one since it changed. I CITED THE CONTENTS OF THE ORIGINAL STATUTE CIRCA 2021. If you had read that version, you would know that. Putting a link to present statute is not a “citation.” The body of my writing is based solely on the 2021 version. It wouldn’t make any sense to use 2022 and I did not, and I think you know that.
“For a time, it was far from certain that the ECA’s seemingly precise prescription of separating from joint session to respectively debate and vote on objections would circumscribe the dispute over certain competing slates”
Those certificates filed by the Trump electors in those seven states were not at the Joint Session because Pence did not take them there. You should know that the certificates filed by two of those states’ Trump electors stated that those votes were like unto PLACEHOLDER VOTES, like the JFK electors in 1961. Those votes could only be counted if Trump won a legal challenge in those states that would mean the votes should be his. That even did not take place. The other states’ Trump electors did not include that conditional statement in their papers, but in testimony before the J6 Committee by some of those Trump electors, it was made clear that they were given the same conditional statement, but just did not include it in their papers. None of the states involved in submitting a Certificate of Votes by Trump electors produced a legal decision that would mean Trump won those Electoral Votes. Therefore, the papers could not be presented even though the 2021 VERSION OF THE ELECTORAL COUNT ACT requires “all papers to be opened,” including the Trump Electors’ Certificates of Votes. Since the conditional statement was not met, the papers did not have to be presented at the Joint Session of Congress, therefore there were no “competing slates” submitted.
“Raising the prospect that further inquiry could be required to determine legitimacy at the state level and calling on Pence to make rulings not clearly contemplated by the ECA.”
No, that question was submitted to the separate houses in debates and votes over the Objections to the Arizona and Pennsylvania Certificates of Ascertainment. It was voted down. Even if the competing slates were present, and Pence opened them and gave each to a Teller to read, the CONGRESS would take up which slate would be counted and which one would not. It was the aim of the development of the Electoral Count Act to make Congress responsible for determining which votes are to be counted and then counts the votes. In the 1876 dispute, there were competing slates filed, and all were opened, and that was when the controversy started, including who would determine the proper slates. After that mess was resolved by horse trading between Democrats (mostly the old Confederacy) and the North which resulted in federal troops leaving the South and Reconstruction ending with Republican Hayes made President, the Electoral Count Act was passed to ensure Congress decides these things, not the VP. Another aim was to get the states to resolve these before they get to Congress.
Remember also the ONE HOUSE RULE. It only one house of Congress votes for the Certificate of Ascertainment for the results in that certificate to be accepted. Also the Safe Harbor Rule favors the Certificate of Ascertainment filed by governor.
Here is a link to the transcript of the full Jan. 6-7, 2021 certification proceedings:
https://www.congress.gov/117/crec/2021/01/06/CREC-2021-01-06.pdf
If the regitiger theory holds, how Pelosi managed to subvert the Elector Count Act by creating an emergency and hijacking the certification machinery, the actual record of proceedings, and not foggy memories, should reveal the scheme.
Likewise, the actual proceedings should exist as the best authority for evaluating Guy Jordan’s challenge.
(It’s long, but well worth the slog for making an informed judgment.)
“If the regitiger theory holds, how Pelosi managed to subvert the Elector Count Act by creating an emergency and hijacking the certification machinery, the actual record of proceedings, and not foggy memories, should reveal the scheme.”
I’ll look at it, but since you haven’t offered any element of that record of the proceedings, you either haven’t one into any depth, or didn’t find anything. Frankly, I don’t think it is in that formal record, but in things like the video on the REDACTED You Tube channel that indicates scenes in the Pelosi family documentary about 1/6 had scenes shot in multiple “takes.” They were up to something, and maybe MORE THAN ONE THING. The only way to find out is with a full investigation.
“Likewise, the actual proceedings should exist as the best authority for evaluating Guy Jordan’s challenge.”
First, I didn’t know regitiger had a theory since he only seemed to be asking questions as if he didn’t have understanding of how the Joint Session works and how the 2021 version of the Electoral Count Act works. So, I answered his questions. That’s all. He asked. I answered. Answering questions is not really a “CHALLENGE” nor is it a “CRITIQUE.” I think we’re trying too hard to defend regitiger when it isn’t really required.
I started to read the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD to which you supplied the link. It is only the Congress’ version of the Arizona debate. You can get that on one of the videos. Here is the link to the REDACTED video about the Pelosi family documentary about 1/6″
Maybe the details of who Ray Epps is and his role will be clarified?
And I want to know whose bright idea was to include the Ukrainians and where is the creep from Brazil who killed Ashley Babbitt.
Don’t forget about the Scaffold Commander John Nichols.
Where has that grabbastic piece of Amphibian sh!t been hiding out?
“It was just revealed…”
Nope. We’ve known a long, long time and seeing our illustrious representatives “just now” catch up… makes me all the more thankful for wasting my tax dollars.
Our government’s broken. How do we get a new one? Our children’s futures demand it.
Should be easy enough to figure out what the 275 FBI were doing. Trace their cell phones.
J6, I always wondered who that idiot (FBI?) was on the west side of the capitol with a blowhorn hollering, “hold the line, move forward.” It reminded me of the movie the Patriot, and I thought to myself that I wasn’t there to storm the capitol, but to peacefully protest as the president asked.
I saw another guy who had positioned a metal barricade as a ramp over a two to three foot wall. He was helping people over that wall into the scaffold area and west capitol stairs. He looked out of place, like an FBI, six feet tall 200 pounds, thirties.
Was the FBI was used to facilitate the “riot.”
Forget the cell phones …. they were stored in “Clinton Bleach Bit” and given the Clinton Hammer Treatment.
Even if there are NSA recordings, there is no way to tell who was holding the phone or if they were a Federal Plant in the crowd.
noting: this was attempted. and like some just random coincidence, att reported that the database was corrupted.
yes, you can make this stuff up, when you need to conceal treason and your name is FBI/CIA/DOD/HOMELAND
easy peasy ..
also noting: you will also notice when you learn about this that at no time then and following, including bondi, Kash or bongo has any investigation taken place to determine that HOW the database might have become corrupted!!!!???
it’s the things they don’t do…do not talk about. BUT WE KNOW.
God Bless America
Trump’s guy, Patel, now runs the FBI.
So what the heck is HE doing to uncover and explain all of this????
He is the one who found the report that had been hidden and gave it to Grassley.
He is giving talks about how wonderful the FBI agents are.
The “Left” is claiming these 265 FBI agents were locals agents who came ‘after the fact’.
How to refute
that? TYIA.
So, give us their names. How do you know they were “local”? You must know their identities. And aren’t all FBI stationed in DC local?
If they came after the fact why didn’t they come proudly as FIBs with hats, jackets, and badges?
Good point.
What boggles the mind is the number of moving parts working together to produce this wicked outcome. And, not one of those parts have stepped forward.
You mean like Capitol Police Chief Sund? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/former-capitol-police-chief-steven-sund-reveals-he/
I was wondering if all of this was put together as soon as PDJT announced he was having a rally on 1/6. Did they work that fast or did they already have something in the works?
Several capitol police ‘committed suicide”.
There had to be planning meetings, drawings, time lines, instructions, videos of meetings, records of credit cards, phone records, text messages of coordination.
The pictures of the FBI guys above standing there — they knew why they were there, or they knew the instructions they were collectively given. What were they told.
Get all those guys in a room and make them talk. The problem is that the FBI is usually the guys to do this. So if they can’t be trusted, who is going to do that.
We would have to have an order to OK getting the military together to coordinated it. Not secret service, not marshals, not sherriffs, not national guard, not ATF, not DEA. CIA (no they were probably in on it)
Who helped round up all the J6rs, who was pushing that? What data did they use to find them? Who gave them access to the data? Why weren’t they allowed bond or lawyers?
We should be asking questions of the J6 arrestees. They were there. What did they see? what were they told. Let them watch the videos available and narrate their experiences of what happened.
PDJT and others could recruit from scratch people who are patriots, based on MERIT, to organize and take over the FBI — quarantine every one of the OLD FBI and let them free only when they vindicate themselves, sing what they know, and recite the pledge of allegiance in blood.
Who the agents are is not as important as……
who assigned those agents to go to J6 ! !
But that’s how you get to who assigned them. In law enforcement, you start at the bottom and work your way up the command chain one order at a time until you get to . . . Obama.
When faced with accountability and consequences, people tend to say “he made me do it”. It’s human nature.
More important question is WHO selected the Agents to be there…why 274…what was their role in the crowd…and when were the Agents informed that they would be in attendance on J6…
And what did they report to their superiors in the aftermath and who were those superiors.
Each of these agents needs to be identified and interviewed.
Questions for the interview:
After getting the answers, proceed up the chain until you find out who orchestrated all of this.
This is investigation 101 stuff. It’s not hard after you obtain the names of the 274 agents.
But we haven’t flushed out Biden / Obama loyalists??
Did a big purge ever happen when President Trump took over? I thought there are 3000+ political appointees to replace, plus the appointees Obama made permanent Federal workers.
Good wirk
Dear President Trump, fly high, but do not get too close to the sun.
I read this guy’s break down after all of this happened, and I totally agreed with it and had my AHA MOMENT. i’ve been waiting for this to get traction and get out there to the public. I sent this synopsis in an email to my son explaining why I was so pissed off about the entire process. He laughed at me and told me I was an idiot.
I will be vindicated.
Let’s hope something positive comes from this and the dirty people are punished.
Hope to post here love this place.
What is more important than why they were there; is what did they do?
They broke windows, pushed people off of balconies, beat up people, opened doors from the inside, closed doors and refused to allow people to leave when they wanted to leave.
And perhaps they did much more.
I’ve always thought that there were quite a few Antifa rentals in crowd. Do not typically see conservatives break things, especially in the people’s house.
Not to mention killing Ashley
Military tribunals for treason. The only way to clean this up. McTurtle and Pelosi should have been arrested on Jan 7, 2020.
Is it too late to do military tribunals on all these people?
I remember when this was posted the first time.
Finally, now, it’s time. It’s finally the season to prosecute, with or without Bondi, the bag of hot air.
We can do it the easy way, Bondi, or the hard way, but President Trump is on a mission to get it done and you aren’t going to be able to deter it, impede it.
Get out of the way. You’re blocking the view.
Bondi, Patel, and Bongino need to prove their loyalty and effectiveness — and if they cannot, then they need to be arrested, held, and interrogated as if they were the original planners of J6- because they are as a minimum, after the fact accomplices.
And if people are being blackmailed and threatened, they need to set up a dragnet and tracing mechanism for all this. Elon and other patriots could do it. I bet Big Balls would volunteer. General Flynn could lead it.
I would agree, CountryDoc, that by default, they have become accomplices, whether they meant to be or not. I don’t think they can really do anything about it. They just don’t have the skill set. I like the dragnet idea. Hope Big Balls has recovered from his assault.
Trump needs to tell (or perhaps has already told) Blondi to find the weakest, scaredest, and biggest lightweight among the many co-conspirators to this clearer-by-the-day treasonous take-down of our government and quickly inddict and arrest them. With great show and fanfare.
And then squeeze the ever-living nuts outta them to make them squeal like the little pig they are. Make them rat-out everybody else.
While we-all can sit back and watch desperate people do desperate things. Let’s just hope none of the good guys get hurt in the process.
Not her forte but maybe Ed Martin could make it happen.
What were those 274 FBI Agents doing on January 6th?
What were those 19 Al-Qaeda Agents doing on September 11th?
Both were trying to bring down a Nation.
Al-Qaeda tried but faled so the FBI thought it would give it a try.
Unfortunately Al-Qaeda didn’t fail.
They were instrumental as an excuse for the “Patriot” Act.
The “Patriot” Act has taken away our 4th Amendment rights.
And what happened to the J6 video that had been being reviewed? Was it released? Epoch Times did a piece on it several months after the review started.
It would appear more important now than never that the footage be reexamined by as many eyes as possible, and the FBI agents identified in the footage in order to determine if they instigated or caused harm to peaceful patriots. Like Roseann Boyland? Like Ashli Babbit? Like so many others who were injured?
Where’s the footage and who is auditing it in light of these new revelations?
The perpetrators of this fraud should all be imprisoned. This was the Democrats’ and Rinos’ Reichstag Fire setup, to allow them to jail their political opponents and install an unelected fraud into Office. The damage to our country was incalculable. Imo, the fake news networks were obviously in on it, and should be prosecuted as accomplices.
If a RICO case is brought it’s possible to include them, I imagine, if they participated and propagated the lies.
The trick is going to be to recover the evidence.
Heck, there’s proof the Biden administration was strong-arming the social media companies. Not that they needed much of a push but there is proof.
It was absolutely a Reichtag fire.
Unfortunately, there has been no J6 documentary that ties Regitier’s analysis with what was going on outside.
That’s what is needed. A timeclock, outside events, and inside events.
Thank you, Sundance.
The violence of J6 had all the markers of an Antifa riot, of which we’d all had a belly full after the summer of leftist hate, violence and burning leading up to the election. We saw it over and over again.
Leftists riot.
MAGA rallies.
Never deviates.
There is not one shred of evidence that any MAGA *ever* rioted or collectively committed violence, destruction, assault. That J6 *PATRIOTIC RALLY* was infiltrated and they false flagged us – they did what they always do, the only thing leftists know how to do (break things and assault people) and pinned it on innocent MAGA lambs and they’ve been plumbing that seditious farce against us ever since.
Until now, apparently.
Go get ‘em Mr. President!
Thank you again Regitiger and Sundance. It makes us know why we keep on Patel and Bondi. We have to bring justice to the criminals and we have to clean out the FBI, the Communist conspirators. We have to dismantle Antifa and the Money Supply and Criminals that support it. We have to remove the Islamists in our midst. This is a Christian County formed on Christian values. The Islamist form of government has no place in the United States.
A theological form of government of any kind has no place in the United States.
There is and will never be a theocracy in these United States of America. However this country was started as a Christian nation by Christians and our form of government will only work with a Christian and highly moral populace.
my form of government in my parish is absolutely guided by Christian values, men and women who openly speak of their faith and act in accordance to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
we do quite well, better than most I will attest. Sure, we have crime, corruption, but we have leadership that isn’t out there celebrating the murder of millions of unborn babies. We don’t have leadership burning the flag, advocating for the “plight” of the islamic/muslin concern..a death cult I will remind.. We don’t have leadership that is telling young children to cut their nuts off with a knife or chemicals so they can pretend to normalize sexual perversions. We don’t have leadership that allows judges to hand out wrist slaps to the worst offenders of law. We have leadership that IS engaged in the society of our community because they care deeply as is their sacred oath to do so.
so much has been written about separation of church and state and most of it is absolutely false because of the virus of corruption that has enveloped the minds of a godless society that has become the new America, a disgrace if there ever was one.
in fact, there is no mention about separating the state from church. it was a letter of opinion from a prominent American figure to another. not contained in the constitution. if you examine the constitution, the federalists papers, the manner and context of the lives of our original leadership, our founders, and all of the other communications and letters that you can witness, what you find is that they very much cared that this nation REMAIN as a Christian Nation.
there should be no controversy about this and yet, due to the toxic nature of sin run amok over hundreds of years, we no longer maintain a high respect for what really makes this country unique and good.
But some of us have not lost sight of what is true and good.
I challenge you to reconsider your statement.
God Bless America
But…but…but…. “the Rank and File of the FBI are honest, law abiding persons”… Shonnety
And Kash Patel. All good guys, dontch’a know!
The rank and file are middle class people who need their jobs and may not have clear perspective on the bigger picture.
We recall watching Paul Gosar (AZ) and Cruz voicing concerns when chaos erupted and they were shut down.
We had a bad feeling which got worse.
Had President Trump had a better team, they may have anticipated the set up.
😡😡😡
Finally. We all knew but it’s nice to have proof for my dimwit relatives. I’ve shared this brilliant analysis of the J6 Fedsurrection everywhere for years. I shared it on Dinesh D’Souza’s YouTube and a week later he was talking about it. My friend asked me to go on a bus with a bunch of people and I said no way! That’s got enemy written all over it. I had no idea how much. They destroyed his life. I hope all of them are exposed, named and made to pay. Pelosi should give up millions of her insider trading.
“The scathing comments from Washington Field Office agents assessing their own bureau’s work that day were not included in an Office of Inspector General report reviewing the FBI’s performance in the lead up to and during the Jan. 6 electoral certification.”
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Even the IG was in on the steal. SOB should be tried for conspiracy to overthrow the US government and sentenced to the maximum
What about the other 29000 less the zero whistle blowers.
Jack Cashill wrote my book of the year “Untenable”
Where Were the 274 FBI Agents on January 6?
https://substack.com/home/post/p-174696468
“Perhaps even more concise is this tweet on Saturday from ex-FBI whistleblower Phil Kennedy, “J6 was the largest entrapment case in human history. It was orchestrated by Nancy Pelosi and her demonic handlers.””
Thank you Sundance & regitiger for all of the Fedsurrection articles on CTH. Many of us called Congress and directed the aides to the articles. Perhaps a new round of call in’s?
Looks like “LARPing”
LARP – Live Action Role Playing
Larping – Players dressed in character for a LARP event
A live action role-playing (LARP) is a form of role-playing game where the participants physically portray their characters. The players pursue goals within a fictional setting represented by real-world environments while interacting with each other in character.
Ot, but I believe ALL these upstanding agents got their walking papers this past week.
McConnell
“The voters, the courts, and the States have all spoken,” McConnell insisted. “If we overrule them, it would damage our Republic forever. If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral.”
Translation
“If we don’t stop these motions, and a debate is triggered, it could lead to the discovery that we all conspired to overthrow the US government; and we would all be personally hanged by Trump himself.”
Who was it that planned and facilitated the J6 events to ensure that Trump patriots entered the Capitol? Who was the Ray Epps’ breach team? What was the FBI’s role in planning and executing the J6 trap?
Revolver published some excellent articles on J6. This is just one of them:
Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web of Unindicted Operators at the Heart of January 6
https://revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/
Out of all of the thousands of January 6’s protesters Ray Epps has turned out to be perhaps the only person nailed dead to rights confessing on camera to plotting a pre-planned attack on the Capitol. On both January 5 and January 6, Epps announced multiple times, at multiple locations, his upcoming plot to breach the US Capitol. He then spent hours attempting to recruit hundreds of others to join him. On top of it all, Epps was seen leading key people and managing key aspects of the initial breach of the Capitol grounds himself.
Epps followed through on his stated mission to shepherd others inside… we see Epps actively orchestrate elements of the very first breach of the Capitol barricades at 12:50 p.m, while Trump still had 20 minutes left in his rally speech. It is noteworthy that this Ray Epps breach occurs just one minute after Capitol Police began responding to reports of two “pipe bombs” located at DNC and GOP headquarters, respectively.
… FBI agents initially deemed Epps’s role as an apparent riot organizer so important that they named him Suspect #16—one of the first 20 high-profile FBI targets in a database now packed with more than 500 suspects. Then, six months later… the FBI responded to these important media stories. But their response was to quietly purge all online Ray Epps files from their website, then switch to a posture of “What? Who? Ray Epps? Never heard of him.”
… The official stories told by the NYT, WSJ, and the US Justice Department all depict the apparent Ray Epps-orchestrated 12:50 p.m. initial breach of metal barricades as the “Big Bang” event of January 6. Indeed, it was the 12:50 p.m. breach of the Capitol grounds, in conjunction with a handful of suspicious individuals ripping down fencing and signage, that set in motion the conditions allowing for 1/6 to turn from a rally into a riot.
… The “Big Bang” moment that kicked off the riot was when a small “breach team” of just a few dozen people violently knocked over the first set of metal barricades between 12:50-12:53 p.m. They forced back the police, and therefore opened a clean walkway entrance to the crowd behind them…. This same breach team then proceeded to haul the metal police barricades off to the side, tear down “Restricted Area” signage, and systematically remove protective fencing from the Capitol lawn. Ordinarily, with no barriers in place, this entire area is open to the public… The Ray Epps breach team thus set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing. … the Ray Epps Breach Team thus set up what may amount to the largest legal booby-trap in American history.
… Perched right across from FenceCutterBulwark at 12:31 p.m. is the man widely regarded by online researchers as the most infamous of all unindicted January 6 riot leaders—a man unmentioned in the mainstream press but elevated to legendary status online as “#NWScaffoldCommander.”
… From high atop the tower between 1 p.m. – 2:30 p.m, ScaffoldCommander… for nearly 90 minutes straight issued a single instruction: “… Keep moving forward!”…
Makes you wonder if any of the 247+ FBI agents were part of the official breach team that ensured that the Trump patriots entered the Capitol in order for Pelosi to declare an emergency.
Everything proves to be corrupt.Everything
Excellent! Mcconnel’s victory speech summarizes everything. Also complicit of course, was the media. Up in Canada, the riot was reported even before it had begun. Personally, I feel the cleansing of America has only taken baby steps and the future is in jeopardy until the past has been duly processed. There is hope yes but until the magnitude of the crimes has been dealt with, the deterrent does not exist. Every day is a lost opportunity, media spots for the incompetent or compromised that turn opportunities into nothing more than noise. The republic hangs in the balance and 1 man cannot do it alone. Where is Grenell? I beleive Bannon loves President Trump and would never knowliling hurt him. There has to be a place somewhere for Dr. Carson; a man incapable of lying.
Grenell was on Gutfeld this week, otherwise I haven’t heard what he’s up to lately.
Perhaps he is trying to save the great state of California from the dastardly of leftist efficiency!
Everybody Knows!
Kudos Regitiger.
Your work has earned an A+ for content and presentation.
I am enlightened by the facts and angered by what our government is capable of unleashing against Americans.
A cautionary tale if ever there was one.
They’ve Done This Before: Five Past Cases of FBI Incitement
https://revolver.news/2021/06/five-cases-of-fbi-incitement/
The Buffalo NY shooting was also FBLie directed, while one of the murdered working on a alternative energy source that would effect Spice production in the Sykes-Picot created Middle East chessboard aka “Dune”
Joe Kent has gone out on a limb to testify in the past that the current FBI appears to be operating entrapment ops by skirting that law and rather than being entrapping embedded agents they are enbolding (no one says ‘how’) confidential human sources to cook up trouble. What this means is there is a little confusion still on who this 274 agents are. There was an all call in the WFO (wash field office) for all squads in the area to report.
The timestamp on that is in question.
What this means is not that the 274 were standing around in plain clothes in the crowd but there was pre-knowledge that a riot was expected because they had informants telling them they would be at the address and had intentions to use the event for unlawful purpose. It supports going afer Pelosi (not the FBI) for standing down the capitol and not accepting 45’s offer of Nat Guard.
Thank you, REGITIGER!
(& sundance, too.)
🌗
Regitiger’s research is strongly supported by what Rep. Clay Higgens told Tucker about what is on the J6 video coverage of the inside of the Capitol.
He said there is video of Capitol Police (all of whom were under the control of Nancy Pelosi), going into restrooms and coming out wearing Trump regalia.
He believes that when the Capitol doors were opened from the inside and the Trump supporters let in, it was these Capitol Police, pretending to be fellow Trump supporters, who led the real Trump supporters to the Joint Session so they could take the blame for interrupting it.
Higgens says that the pathway is labyrinthian, and random Trump supporters would never have made it to the Joint Session as a group if they were not guided there.
With full access to the video (I think Higgens only had partial access), this should be easy to verify.
All of a piece with the Epps group outside, removing the “off limits” fences so the arriving Trump supporters could be ushered on to the grounds where it was at that time illegal for them to be, framing them all as criminals at the same time as they were channeled to the doors that were then opened from the inside for them to come in and “insurrect.”
One big “Reichstag fire,” set by the Democrats so THEY could interrupt the Joint Session (for the reasons Regitiger outlines) and frame their opponents for it at the same time. Unlike the fake “insurrection” that Democrat’s falsely accuse Trump supporters of, their own Joint-Session-interrupting insurrection against constitutional government actually did occur.
For the record, just so that you know, Clay was one of the very first “officials” I contacted with my report. He is my district representative in Congress. I have good and always have had good relations with Clay. He is a dependable and solid patriot. However, Clay was not enthusiastic one bit and made zero replies to me despite over 4 times I contacted him directly about the story. Provided him with all my draft notes and the entire tranche of video I recorded, so he would understand I was not some lunatic.
To date, Clay does not want to talk to me about this. I do not know why and it bothers me. My own father gave me the best advice about this, so I will pass it along:
sometimes, son, the truth is terrible, so terrible and awful, even the strongest of men refuse to accept the truth. That doesn’t make them bad people, just not especially fearless…and fearless takes a special man.
My Dad is fearless. I trust his advice.
So When I got zero reaction from the dozens and dozens of people I reached out to with my story…people who have the power of elected office, constitutional scholars who have a loudspeaker and even media organizations, I was prepared that most of them would simply not react or even communicate back to me.
That just means you have to really work harder when you have a truth to tell. It’s just the way the world works.
noting: Sundance and CTH was the first online platform I submitted my story to. And the rest is, history..in the making.
this story is not finished.
God Bless America
Wisdom from your father.
I wonder if the 274# has made some scales fall off the eyes of some men, such as Patel, or Higgens. 0r…Maybe MTG or Miller will take up a sword.
I remember reading your comment late at night. It was a revelation- the key to understanding the what, how and why. Your work will be recorded in the history books-a Citizen Sleuthe who did what a free press was intended to do- seek truth, find it and reveal it. Thank you! Patriot sir!
I thought you had to be right from the first time Sundance discussed/showed your analysis. Not that the Democrats wouldn’t set a Reichstag fire just for the purpose of framing their opponents, but that law at the time that allowed Congress to vote to send slates of electors back to the states to verify that they are correct (that their elections were honest), and the urgency of the Democrats to vote to get rid of that law as soon as they had the power. Everything fits their having a strong interest in disrupting the Joint Session for what could have happened there if they didn’t disrupt it.
I am familiar myself with how many people are reluctant to witness an unexpected betrayal. If you want to see, take a look at the exposés of the “Crescent of Embrace” memorial to Flight 93, on the sidebar at my link.
It turns out to be a half-mile wide terrorist memorial mosque, with the central crescent being a giant Mecca-direction indicator (the central feature around which every mosque is built).
A bunch of other bloggers helped me and Tom Burnett Sr. (Flight 93 hero Tom Jr.) try to expose this second Islamist sneak-attack on Flight 93, including some high-profile ones like Powerline and Gateway Pundit, but among the government functionaries and Memorial Project functionaries whose job it was to be alert to threats, all were willfully, determinedly, stuck in see-no-evil mode.
The only other reason I could account for the reaction of Clay is that Q is correct. It’s either one or the other. The only other alternative which I do not believe would be Clay’s involvement in the election theft/treason.
I do not in any way want to allege that Clay had any part role in the coup and election fraud. quite the opposite. I am sorry if I left that impression. I only pointed out that when I presented this information, he was the first official, my representative that I reached out to and was great disappointed that he did not take it more seriously. I am an impatient person by nature. I see something, I do something…quickly. I have always been frustrated when others are not very urgent in moments that require urgency. Some of this is probably related to a long career in a rescue operations mode, where time is THE FACTOR between coming home alive, or making the paper. Probably a LOT of that.
But over the years, I have noticed some things and its really hard to reconcile…
why is it that the obvious problems and conflicts, the threats and the risks are not treated with immediacy in this country?
that really bothers me. I write about these things, because it matters to me and I know I am not the only person in this country that sees just how irresponsible our government and leadership has become about how to respond to immediate dangers….with a growing population, a diversity of ideas, and a culture divided, and a political institution that can’t even agree on what the time of day is…is NO excuse for allowing things like antifa and BLM to exist as a ultra violent cult. Likewise, how on earth can we reconcile that Congress literally will tell you to your face: we followed the law…by the book…met ever constitutional element and worked it all through our courts AND
WE CERTIFIED THAT A NAVEL GAZING AMBULATORY SENILE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR AND CHEAT, A BASEMENT DWELLING MALARKEY WHO COULD NOT ASSEMBLE MORE THAN 1,000 PEOPLE IN A A RALLY GAINED MORE VOTES THAN EVEN OBAMA AND CLINTON.
how do we square with this kind of absurd?
revolution, stage 5: transfer of power. (this is the stage we are in…and with prayer and God willing, our nation will BE REFORMED TOP DOWN).
God Bless America