The Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement has gained in ranks mostly due to the pragmatic messenger who cuts through party lines, Donald Trump; but also, because the political left went too far into the world of social crazy.
For several years, traditional moderates and Democrats have been turning away from the messaging of the leftist party now controlled by radical Marxists and publicly declared socialists. Almost everything they created as a point of advocacy made their following spiral into an ever-diminishing circle.
Democrats are the party of censorship, gleefully cheering as conservative voices were deplatformed, demonetized, targeted by the social media system operators who controlled the public square, targeted by an aligned government and mainstream media, and evidenced in their full-throated demands around the COVID-19 madness and vaccine protocols.
Democrats cheered as government collaborated with tech donors to diminish their opposition, while simultaneously they affirmed some of the evilest enterprises around DEI, toxic advocacy for transgender and LGBTQ+ ideology, the mutilation of children and far worse. Socially their policies became increasingly toxic and ridiculous.
As they descended this spiral, Democrats became increasingly dangerous – visibly so – and the outcome of their advocacy was not in alignment with anything resembling ‘domestic tranquility’. None of this is questioned by serious people who have watched the last 18 years unfold. The leftist ideology is abusive in the extreme.
As the left pushed further and further into their created system of social madness, violence and evil enterprise, they lost support and MAGA Republicans were beneficiaries.
Despite our lack of control over the power centers, the MAGA tent expanded as the party of the individual not the collective; the party of freedom, free speech and, well, functionally common sense. The toxic abusers held power, but culturally they were losing control. MAGA represented the rebellion, and the rebel ranks gained even while, and perhaps because, we were being abused.
Then a 22-year-old radical leftist, fully indoctrinated within the 18-years of social Marxist advancement, shot the Christian representation of the MAGA rebellion, Charlie Kirk, in the neck – killing him in front of millions.
♦ Telemachus was a Christian monk from Asia who went to Rome and saw the gladiatorial games at the Colosseum. Telemachus watched the brutality of men slaughtering men, animals ripping the flesh and limbs from humans, while eighty thousand in the audience cheered. As a Christian, Telemachus was horrified.
Telemachus cried out, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’ Yet, his voice was lost in the roar within the great Colosseum. He descended the stairs, made his way to the edge of the arena, jumped down and stood between two Gladiators. ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’, he declared. The crowd jeered, whistled and shouted down the much smaller monk, but Telemachus would not relent, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!,’ he desperately kept repeating.
The angry jeers of the crowd turned violent, and they threw stones upon Telemachus; but the monk would only reply, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’. The stoning continued to rain down upon the small Asian monk, until Telemachus was dead. His only recorded words were, ‘In the Name of Christ, stop!’… until he was dead.
Telemachus’ body was dragged away, the games continued, but the moment changed how many perceived the brutality that took place within the Colosseum. The horrific injustice of the events forever changed how the blood lust within the venue was evaluated. Thereafter, Emperor Honorius recognized Telemachus’ martyrdom, and the gladiator games ended. [SOURCE]
Right now, within our body politic, in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, there are two aspects that need to be reviewed: the cultural impact, and the politics of it all.
♦ Culturally the battle is in full swing. Those who have been abused by decades of toxic enterprise have been triggered to action by the killing of Charlie.
The toxic leftists who cheered the Marxist and abusive social constructs are being confronted. Their cheers in the aftermath of Charlies death are fueling a massive retribution from a righteously angered crowd.
The radical leftists are now being identified, isolated, ridiculed and marginalized. The Alinsky tactics of the abusers are being turned against them by the abused.
Thousands have lost their jobs; high profile leftists like Jimmy Kimmel have suffered righteous backlash. The toxic voices of the evildoers are now receiving consequences.
Evil killed Charlie, and Goodness is fighting back.
The American Christian culture has surged to the front of the battle lines, and has pierced the darkness. However, there’s a danger in our victory, and that brings the politics of it into the discussion.
♦ Politically, if there is one skillset the abusers have in their arsenal, that can be predicted to a certainty, it’s their ability to turn their abuse into victimhood once confronted. As righteous backlash continues surging, the abuser suddenly claims the mantle of ‘free speech.’
Do not underestimate the ability of Democrats to flip from abuser to proclaimed victim on the issue of ‘free speech’. The radical left, the Marxists, do not have the word hypocrite in their political dictionary; they are professional, narcissistic abusers.
The professional leftists dispatch their own history without a scintilla of reservation, if that’s the position they need to take in order to advance their agenda. They will not even entertain a request for review, as they shift into a strategic offensive. We are watching that unfold right now.
If MAGA is not careful, continued demands for the removal of leftist voices, will create a political outcome where Democrats will position as the party of tolerance and free speech. This is how they get out of the downward spiral they were in. This issue is partly how they will seek to regain their numerical position in advance of the 2026 midterms.
♦ The influence of Israel. Again, this is an issue that can not only divide the MAGA coalition, but it can play directly into the hands of the political UniParty. I believe Charlie Kirk well understood this dynamic.
There are legitimate criticisms for the government of Israel that are well founded and well deserved. However, blaming Israel for every evil enterprise taking place within the U.S. body politic is not a good idea.
A substantive issue is not whether influential Israeli donors will stop funding grassroots conservatives, ie. MAGA voices, and the issue is not that Israeli donors will suddenly start giving Democrats money, fueling their own demise; the issue I believe Charlie Kirk was trying to navigate, is that influential Israeli donors will start funding traditional Republican opposition.
When Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson and similarly aligned voices begin aggressively pushing anti-Israel positions, regardless of their merit, the outcome is traditional Republican elements like Bush, McConnell, Rove, start smiling.
Remember, it was not Democrats who benefitted most from the destruction of the Tea Party in 2012, it was the Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and the Lindsey Graham professional wing of the GOP who benefitted.
When the voices of Candace, Tucker and Nick Fuentes begin carving away a big chunk of attention within the MAGA tent, it is the Ron DeSantis wing of the Republican base who benefits numerically and financially.
If we don’t want to see the Nikki Haley, Jeb Bush, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz elements reemerge in out-scaled influence, then don’t fuel their bank accounts. Amplifying anti-Jewish sentiments, Israel conspiracy theories, and various iterations of pushback against the aggressive Zionist movement, ends up with folks like Bill Ackman, Larry Ellison, David Ellison and Ken Griffin fueling an anti-MAGA option. The professionally Republican club would like this outcome.
The MAGA tent needs to be very careful, thinking carefully about who benefits when the colosseum crowd begins throwing stones. The first stone throwers, the seeders per se’, may have an entirely different agenda than the majority of the crowd.
Be careful.
When the govt (think FBI) doesn’t provide details of events, generally the first reaction is to think they are hiding something. However, often the motive is to purposefully create a void where ‘conspiracies’ can thrive. Establishing the seeds for narratives, often entails setting up the opportunity for your opposition to label themselves. This how Machiavellian actors operate.
Be wise.
The Marxist (Democrat) leadership was NOT unhappy to see angered and emotional MAGA voices quickly set up a website where toxic leftist social media users were identified by name, identified by employment and targeted for financial retribution. What is called “cancelling” a person can also be called “doxxing” a person, and in several states that activity is illegal. What venue do you think a law firm like Perkins Coie would plan to launch their class action lawsuits from? Free representation for the hate-filled orcs, paid for by [fill_in_blank].
Be strategic.
When you see Instagram, Facebook and even Google, suddenly amplifying the voice of Nick Fuentes, ask yourself why would the platforms that formerly banned the guy for toxic hate-speech (current forever ban ongoing), suddenly adjust their algorithms and start promoting video segments of Nick Fuentes. Does it make sense?
Ask questions.
Who attends these mysterious conservative “influencer” assemblies that we sometimes hear about. Who is funding them. And if the gathering is for good, moral and honest reason, why do they get so defensive when asked who was in attendance.
Pray.
We must ground ourselves in prayer daily. Really purposeful prayer.
7 “Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go. 8 Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. 9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.”

I, for one, will never forget what they did to me and my country … any more than I will forget who the Soviet Russians were even after they were defeated.
Their leftist movement is as vile and wicked as any I’ve ever witnessed in my long life or any that I’ve read about in history books. Later generations may forget … me, never.
The RINOs are evil too …..just in a different way.
I can’t imagine having to look at a Bush, DeSantis, Haley et al ever again.
We’ve come to far to let their ilk in power again.
Thanks to Sundance for warning us.
“We’ve come to far to let their ilk in power again.”
“It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.”.
-David Plouffe, former campaign manager for President Barack Obama
They set the rules. We just need to follow them……..
I still say if people are evil, we should feed them to lions or at least pit bulls. An televise it too. Coke could sponsor it.
The RINOs are evil too …..just in a different way.
Well, yes. Just as Sundance said: Machiavellian, the most evil of all, posturing as your friend as they manoeuvre to stab you in the back.
Et tu, Brute? .
…… “Machiavellian, the most evil of all, posturing as your friend as they manuevre to stab you in the back.”
“https://www.desiringgod.org/labs/why-does-god-ordain-so-much-evil-in-the-last-days “
A quotation from Marcus Tullius Cicero:
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.”
This is where we find ourselves, is it not?
Getting bombarded with Cornyn ads down here in Texas. He needs to go. He feels the pressure. And of course the ads are how he saved Medicare, akin to the GOP is gonna push grandma off a cliff.
He also has the gall to invoke POTUS Trump in his shit ads!
I don’t want Cornyn simply voted out of office. I want him to pay for his decades of slimy subterfuge in Texas politics.
There ARE far more devious, deceptive and defeatist politicians than Democrats.
It’s the Bush Republicans.
😉😉
It was an interesting research project…
finding out exactly who the Bolsheviks
actually were.
I will not give the answer.👩🏫👩🏫
Only to say that it is a worthy research project.
And as my mentors encouraged me to research…
and arrive to the conclusion presented by…facts🤷♀️
Not the broad generalizations…look into the actual
names of those involved…and information on them.
I do…and have encouraged others to …research.
😉😉
Quite fascinating.👩🏫
Are you talking about the Bolsheviks as opposed to the Trotskyites & Mensheviks, Kerensky, etc?
Do you have a particular historical work you recommend? I read a volume on the Russian revolution about 45 years ago, but it delineated all the players (including Rasputin). The Bolshies, as I remember, were the nastiest of the bunch.
Never forget, BUT WE are novices in this game compared to them, and they are vindictive as hell.
Let’s beat them at their own game. The thought of being governed by vile RINOs again is a horror.
The thing so few have considered, can be rectified with a simple thought experiment.
Imagine you were a government who issued the “global reserve currency”, money required to be possessed by the entire planet in order to conduct trade. Everyone needs this stuff, so you can, and do, create unlimited quantities of it virtually at will. In other words, you have unlimited access to “money”.
You then create an agency, then many more agencies, which exist, live and thrive in darkness. These agencies receive as much money as they want, because after all you have unlimited amounts of money. They spend decades doing research on human behaviour, in public and some very unsavory private ways.
You then turn these agencies loose on the public to “influence” them through propaganda, acts of terror, disease, and funding groups of various stripes.
What could you accomplish?
Half the Republican Party was sitting around the Convention awaiting the Good News from Butler.
Especially Swampeii-o and Bootsie..
https://www.soapcentral.com/pop-culture/news-i-m-confused-candace-owens-reviews-footage-camera-behind-charlie-kirk-assassination-claims-there-s-blood
“I’m very confused”: Candace Owens reviews footage from the camera behind Charlie Kirk during his assassination and claims “there’s no blood”
Excerpt:
“I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…
He said the bullet “absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.”
But it didn’t go through. Charlie’s body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied:
“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed.”
Wow. ❤️
Sorry but that is total balderdash. I saw my late father kill 2 pronghorn antelope bucks that were running side by side with 1 shot from a Ruger bolt action 7mm Magnum hunting rifle out on the Arco desert in SE Idaho hunting season 1991.
Pops was 250 to 300 yards away. An 7mm Magnum and a 30.06 round are very similar in size weight and raw power.
A 30.06 would have nearly decapitated Charlie if the round hit the spine. Don’t believe this bullsh!t.
Andrew Kolvet works for Turning Point USA, he’s the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show. He was at the event when Kirk was assassinated. He talked to the doctor, you did not.
I know what I’ve seen and I believe none of this. This will cause the “Mother of all Streisand Effects”..
Autopsy and forensic ballistic report please… and the hospital records also please…
Wow a whole thread on Israeli malfeasance wiped off the platform…
They flagged you, B.
Flagging here does not automatically remove threads.
Ask Ad Rem, she will confirm.
Multiple flags by multiple people will generate an email to the admins. They will look at the thread and give a warning if a poster or posters are going off the rails.
If the warning is ignored the thread and all replies get removed.
Truth matters.
Absolutely amazing how paragraphs and many, many people having a discussion on this just instantly disappeared!
I know…..
I commented here not too long ago and included
links to articles in Jerusalem Post and Times of Israel.
Guess did not meet the approved propaganda narrative.
And my post and replies were wiped out within an
hour.
It is not secret that a campaign is out by many different
organizations ( just a quick google search) to keep certain 😉😉
propaganda narratives going 🤷♀️
😉 😉 It’s not working. And the more it is done- more people…
start….noticing. 🤣🤣
💥 💥
Those who wish to silence you-wish to control you!
Sundance does not have approved propaganda guidelines.
What he does have is a firm policy that they will not allow emails from posters to be shared with one another via Treehouse assistance. 🤔
My comment was in reference to the
different NGOs and organizations to
combat online…. when the propaganda
steps out of the online “narrative “.
The furry-transgender…looney tune
liberal Democrats….and those who are
in alignment with their views…..go to
great lengths to silence conversation and
differing views.
Just do a google search! The CTH is not
immune to their presence. We can always
tell when the operatives have targeted the
Treehouse! New names, etc.
It has always been like that. Except now it is
worse.😖
🤪 🤪 🤪
I just have this picture/cartoon image of a
bunch of those furry-transnuts in full costumes🤢
on their gaming platforms getting together….let’s
go flag some comments at CTH.
We already know that they ..Hate free speech 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️
Actions do speak louder than words….or should that be…. by not allowing free speech ……speaks louder than words.🤔🤔
..
BIOLENINISM:
The concept that social strife is driven by the inequality in looks among individuals of the human species; both male and female.
Looks and thus proper sexualization leads to productive societies; unattractive looks leads to aggressive social failure and / or overcompensation through toxic displays of masculinity, among men (incels), while among women it leads to aggressive politics and promoting social discord.
Bioleninism oftentimes gets confused with communism, when in fact modern day bioleninists, with their disruptive, unaesthetic appearances, simply coopt communism as a way to express their discontent with their genetic ostracization.
While capitalism itself is a form of financial eugenics to be scrutinized, there is some merit to the idea that looks disparities lead to antagonism in society from the less genetically gifted. This is called bioleninism, a very different concept from economic leninism.
Or as the common vernacular might put it…”ugly is bone deep”
I have to agree. I own a 30.06 Springfield. Human vertebrae are not the densest of bone and would hardly slow down that caliber of ammo. Plus it appears that the shot came in at an angle, thus it would have been a glancing blow.
I have seen what it has done with elk and bear. Even hitting bone, the round was a thru and thru.
Plus there is now sound ballistics from video recordings done at the event. From those it appears that the shot came from no further than 75 yards. The sniper nest was 143+ yards out……..
Ballistic audio analysis (@I_Am_JohnCullen)
of the crack/thump
(Sonic boom of the round followed by the /report of the rifle)
captured by two separate phones recording at the time of firing.
First phone is to Charlie’s left (shooter @78 yds)
Second phone is to Charlie’s right (shooter @75 yds)
This in addition to the original crack/thump analysis which indicates a shooter 143 yards away (Tyler).
Two shots.
1st- Tyler
Decoy @ 143 yds
Rifle not suppressed
Crack
Thump
(Everyone looks)
…
2nd- Assassin
@75-78 yds
Weapon suppressed
Crack
(Noone notices)
…
Did you know that two shots were fired at the Charlie Kirk shooting, within .07 seconds of each other?
True story..
Microphones don’t lie.
@FBIDirectorKash does.
https://nitter.poast.org/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1969359893288403089#m
Yup. I’ve seen latest John’s video. The Army SPY plane that flew from Texas to Montana and the fly-over 2 miles from UVU 3 hours before Kirk’s event. Plane went down to 600 feet, near stall speed while circling over Utah Lake, outside of Provo. Then coming back from Montana did the same maneuver over Utah Lake, going down to an altitude of 335 feet at I believe was a speed 118 knots—-again close to stall, adjacent (2 miles) to UVU, 20 minutes after the murder. That and the videos of the drones flying over the event. Weird stuff……..
Indeed
https://nitter.poast.org/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1969438743821238413#m
Agreed. Something is very fishy about this whole story.
911 building collapse was a setup according to forensic analysis.
The jab was a set up.
Kennedy assination also.
Keep that in mind.
Political social manipulation.
FBI corruption.
etc etc.
First take is assumed yo be correct but often its not. More often than not.
Population can be manipulated by cia etc.
What you see is not what you get.
AI manipulation blurs reality and is a tool to fool.
Don’t believe everything you see or hear on the surface
Think twilight zone and “abby normal” transistion types.
At the beginning of any traumatic incident,
majority of people become very emotional.
It does affect constructive and rational thinking.
Perfect example…everyone saw the fireball as
the planes hit the Towers.
🤔 🤔 🤔 And even before the first Tower fell…🤔🤔
A passport was found…lying on the street ..and given
to authorities- and the newscasters then received
that information…which identified one of the terrorists.
😳 😳 Again, before the first tower fell.?
Have you seen this yet? Definitely recommend….
what I posted above…is just the tip of the iceberg.😳
CODEX 9/11 – World Premiere – – YouTube
I have experience with this round as well. Upon seeing the video, my immediate reflection was that there was no way that Charlie would still be alive, and my very next thought was how was it possible that someone behind him was not shot or damage to something behind the tent. A through and through with a 30.06 is a given in my humble opinion.
Yup. A 30.06 round from that distance would go through three people, not just Charlie. There is a lot of BS being peddled on this. This is beginning to sound a lot like the JFK magic bullet theory.
I’m trying to still figure out a way to square the facts. One possibility I’ve not seen discussed is what if the ammo was old? The impact of age on rounds is highly variable, depending on storage.
If it was “Grandpa’s rifle,” what if, instead of buying new .30-06 ammo, the rounds were in a very old box stored with it?
I’ve experienced a few misfires over the years from, yes, my grandpa’s very old ammo he bought in something like the ’50s, and also a few shots dropping way more than they should.
Just some food for thought. A “dud”-ish round could also explain a relatively close head shot becoming a chest/neck shot?
That’s an interesting tale.
How do we know you are not lying or exaggerating?
Proof please. Links? Photos? Corroborating evidence?
Go buy a 30.06, a deer tag and a box of shells. Get a blaze orange hunting vest go in the woods and wait. Make sure you don’t shower for several days because critters can smell soap. When a buck presents itself shoot it in the neck. Then stick your hand in the hole.
This actually supports the theories out there that the shot was from close range, a/o came from a different type weapon.
There’s also a surprising number of people who think it was entirely staged.
I remain undecided, but have a lot of questions.
There’s so much evidence against Tyler Robinson, the murder was videod … what more do you need?
There’s so much evidence against Tyler Robinson, the murder was videod … what more do you need?
r0ng.
What do we need?
We need evidence.
E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E.
0.o
I have no idea what you wrote. Just be straightforward.
I have no idea what you wrote. Just be straightforward.
You seriously cannot expect me to read and comprehend for you.
You’ve been running around this website for the past few days hollering about how much evidence there is when in fact there is no evidence at all.
Narratives and internet chatter are not evidence.
A hokey, Harlequin AI soliloquy is not an authenticated piece of evidence.
Crazy lone nut and magic bullet explanations are not evidence.
If you want to believe the mainstream narratives, please, do that; nobody is going to try and stop you.
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And you will never proof your theory so this is all just verbal masterbation. Shame really for the last 14 years or so this was such a thought provoking site.
And you will never proof your theory so this is all just verbal masterbation. Shame really for the last 14 years or so this was such a thought provoking site.
While you weren’t paying attention you failed to notice that I never stated any theory.
What I have stated is that the mainstream narratives being bulldozed out are not believable.
0.o
Quit with the theories until they can be proved please .
Quit with the theories until they can be proved please .
As I just replied to your friend Gary, I have not thrown out any theories; I’ve simply stated that the mainstream narratives are not believable.
And I am more than happy to accept proof and evidence.
Mainstream narratives are neither.
0.o
Video just like Butler PA? Was that event also an open and shut case in your opinion?
I’m not talking about Butler. I’m talking about the shooting of Charlie Kirk at Utah State University. Surveillance videos, the murder weapon with Tyler’s DNA on it, the bullet and casing, messages between Tyler and his friends, etc. Lots of evidence, and we haven’t seen all of it yet. There’s probably cell phone evidence too, possibly tracking him right to the rooftop if he didn’t shut his phone off like Bryan Kohberger did.
It was not Utah State University. That is up in Logan, Utah. This was at Utah Valley University which is located in Orem. Please do not confuse the two.
No, it isn’t, but neither is that surveillance video from the Charlotte subway train car. Take a LONG look at that one and make screencaps and study them awhile. We know he cut himself, and the quality of the video is just poor enough to make a lot of things difficult to discern.
Did you see Master Robinson fire the purported weapon?
The best explanation I’ve seen was a video of a guy who analyzed the shot in slow motion. Sorry I don’t have the video.
Charlie was wearing body armor, probably titanium. The bullet hit the top of the armor and deflected upward, entered his neck, upward into brain. Hence no exit wound, only blood draining from the entrance wound in his neck.
Charlie was dead on impact. No suffering.
God bless him and his family.
Was it taped to his chest/back? The t-shirt obviously didn’t have a plate pouch and straps would have been seen thru the tee coming over the shoulders. You can see the earpiece cord under the tee, so straps should have also been visible.
The analysis I saw didn’t discuss straps. At bullet impact the tee shirt jumped upward violently 4 to 6 inches, then settled back down to shoulders revealing the neck entrance wound. The video was posted on this site yesterday. I posted it two days ago. I’ll see if I can find it.
Here you go.
It explains why no blood splatter, exit wound.
Yes, thanks for reposting. I watched it the other day. This guy makes much sense.
Great analysis ; leaves no doubt in my mind as to what the facts are .
Not too sure about the presence of body armor ; most will not stop a 30-06 projectile at that range .
Stopping and deflecting are two completely different dynamics.
The wound could be larger because upon the deflection off the body armor, the bullet struck Kirk while showing all of, or an angle of, the bullet’s cross section. If the SIDE of the bullet, or large fragment, hit Kirk and not it’s endpoint, that could enlarge the entry wound.
Little fact check here:
AI Overview:
“Yes, if a deflected bullet strikes someone sideways, the entry wound can be significantly larger and more irregular than a standard wound. This is because the bullet is “tumbling,” or rotating around its center of mass, rather than traveling nose-first. ”
Autopsy protocols are needed for verification.
You do realize the A in AI stands for “artificial” don’t you?
Atypical gunshot wounds of entrance: an empirical studyE R Donoghue, M B Kalelkar, J M Richmond, S S Teas
PMID: 6726151Abstract
Atypical gunshot wounds of entrance occur when bullets deviate from their stable nose-on trajectory before entering the body. When this occurs, the resulting wound may have an atypical D-shaped appearance. Ray-like abrasions or bruises may radiate from the corners of the wound. Unstable nonaxial flight may be caused by intermediate targets, ricochets , inappropriate weapon/ ammunition combinations, poor weapon construction, or use of misaligned silencers . If a bullet is deformed before entrance the configuration of the resulting wound may be bizarre, and the wound configuration may closely resemble the configuration of the striking bullet. Nine cases are presented showing the effects of various intermediate targets. A number of methods for the investigation of atypical wounds are discussed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6726151/
(1) Apparently you missed the note the note at the end that referenced the need to review autopsy protocols, which would include the written report along with the photographs and x-rays.
(2) What I wrote is just basic gunshot wound forensics that have been a matter of record for many decades now.
(3) Google’s AI gets its answers by using large language models (LLMs) like Gemini to process and summarize information from the vast index of web pages and Google’s Knowledge Graph. The AI first identifies the intent of a user’s query, retrieves relevant information, and then synthesizes it into a coherent summary. These AI Overviews often cite the source websites used to generate the summary, allowing users to verify the information or explore the topic further.
I didn’t need to go further than Google AI because I already knew what I wrote was accurate and anyone who wanted to look for themselves could go to the same source, ask about it, and check any links provided by AI to see for themselves.
Highlighting the term “Artificial” does not prove that the AI was inaccurate or even unreliable. As you can see, it was not inaccurate. A bullet tumbling after striking an object will create a larger defect upon impact with human soft tissue since it is striking with its full profile and not just with its nose while in a spinning flight from the rifling in the barrel.
Of course it is.
Saint. Miracle #1.
Here’s a better explanation. Starts at 4 minutes in.
This is baloney.
Bullet hit top of concealed body armour and defelected up into his neck and head.
Thats why someone else wasn’t killed.
God’s grace.
When passing thru Charlie’s neck, the bullet lost velocity, greatly reducing its ability to cause harm.
Then it would need to strike a critical area in another person. Seeing as how the round was fired from a higher altitude, it would be trending downward; meaning it might hit someone in the leg and maybe strike the femoral artery .. but at a lower velocity
And the odds against that are pretty high. So I really don’t see a second person being killed
I tried to listen to a bit of Owens and just couldn’t bear it. She’s changed and IMHO she’s so just out for clicks and doesn’t seem to care what she says.
Just MHO others may see it differently but that caca about Israel being in any way involved is pointed directly at screwing MAGA folks into the ceiling and to starting them arguing with each other.
Monticello,
I haven’t heard nor read that a bullet was being looked for (inside Charlie or elsewhere) as she claimed.
Have you?
It would seem that law reps or Cox should simply state that the bullet was found inside Charlie
-to end the hype.
The father believes the son did it enough to turn his own son in.
The “what abouts” shatter themselves against that hard fact.
Curious if the Father was paid the reward for turning his son in?
He refused it.
He supposedly demanded that the reward be paid to Charlie’s widow.
It is a fact that if there is a possibility that the killer is in your own family and you don’t report it you yourself can be charged with conspiracy or some other charge. I forget what the title of the charge would be, but you definitely can be charged by law-enforcement if you have any knowledge of even somebody very close perhaps not your husband or wife but anyone else in your family you will be charged if you don’t alert authorities.
I believe that’s called “accessory after the fact.”
if there is a possibility that the killer is in your own family and you don’t report it you yourself can be charged with conspiracy or some other charge. I forget what the title of the charge would be, but you definitely can be charged by law-enforcement if you have any knowledge of even somebody very close perhaps not your husband or wife but anyone else in your family you will be charged if you don’t alert authorities,
this is a fact.
C’mon Monti.
She’s reckless she so much wants clicks.
Have you watched any of her podcasts?
I would say…probably not.😁
She is asking questions…being a journalist who….
by golly ..investigates!!
Imagine that….so unheard of nowadays people
are…shocked 😳
I do have hope for our younger generations…they
do not swallow any “ official story “ hook line and sinker 🎣 🐠 .
They learned early….COVID hoax taught them to question
everything!
Quite proud of them!👩🏫👩🏫
🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ I don’t believe she is really
interested in “clicks”.
Her tribute to Charlie…
On just YouTube alone….
within 24 hours that video
received over 4 Million views.
It is over 6 million now…..and
that is just on YouTube. That doesn’t
include platforms like Rumble.
I follow her pretty regularly..lot of my
friends do too. Beats watching Faux News😁😁☺️
Candace has a Candace problem. She’s getting high on her own supply (as drug dealers say). Or maybe just maybe there’s other f&^%$#@$ afoot with her “investigations”.
If it comes to pass that Macron’s wife really is a biological female, which they are claiming they will reveal in court…how is this gonna fly with the normies? The left will then say “see, they (us) really ARE crazy!”.
So that makes me wonder, just who’s side is Candace really on?
p.s. there’s a reason Harvey Weisnstein went to her to tell his story. I’ll leave it at that.
She’s the Britney Spears of podcasters!
Yeah, she’s having an extended meltdown in front of our eyes. Not at all helpful. I’ve wondered if she’s in shock and just losing it and lacking the perspective to tap out for now. She’d have done well to step back for a few weeks and collect herself. I have sympathy for her raw reaction but we boy was Sundance correct about the need for pause and discernment at this time . . . she’d have benefitted all of us and probably herself to have taken that approach. For days she has sounded unhinged.
She is asking questions…
🤷♀️🤷♀️
I find no fault in that.
She has drawn no conclusions…
just doing some investigating on
her own…more journalists should
do the same.🤷♀️
I don’t think anyone one is pointing
fingers ….just some really weird
comments by Nutty Yahoo being
discussed. 😖🥴
Do you not know that YOU ARE GOD’S TEMPLE and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? (17) IF ANYONE DESTROYS GOD’S TEMPLE, GOD WILL DESTROY HIM. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple. 1 Cor 3:16-17 ESV. May it be so. Amen.
This seems incredibly contrived. Our ENEMIES have identified themselves.
Godspeed sir.
I believe these marxist politicians, like Ilhan Omar and AOC, are trying to trash Charlie to somehow justify this murder by the left. They are petty, mean and pedantic.
But, our political experience has not included a backlash like the one we are seeing now. They successfully killed Charlie Kirk, and he was without any fault in it.
Not even the attempted assassination of Trump was this prayerful and horrified. Probably because Trump was spared.
In my mind, I imagine AOC somehow thinks people support her ideology, that is, until she sees the Christian western world rising up like a tidal wave in prayer, grief, disgust and outrage at the fruits of the demonic left’s philosophy.
And let’s hope it continues and strengthens. She is a demon and cannot survive the light of Christianity shined upon her. None of them can survive, if we all act in God’s name.
John 15
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
You would know, Lord, You would know.
I have been booted out of Facebook TWICE. Literally erasing every trace of my path there. I’m now going for the hat trick.
Two of my proudest accomplishments.
Same.
SD as always prescient and calculating. Thank you Sir, as the ship is sailing and if throwing some ballast overboard needs to be done then so be it.
Or in this case some grounded prayers are in order. Gods will be done.
It seems , akin to the tragic death of Charlie Kirk and the widespread high-jacking of its import and meaning to each own cause, analogously Sundance’s admonitions are being expropriated by those who want fodder for their pet peeves and to their own ends as though it were Sundance’s.
Too, why have soo many lost the ability to appreciate the importance of nuance in any difficult paradigm?
It’s hard to consider nuance when 522 of 535 congressmen have an Israeli donor that tells them how to vote.
But I do agree, partisanry is blind and pointless if you’re not an expert who can sift thru the nuance.
Every INTEREST GROUP keeps close tabs on every member of congress.
Higher Ed
Pentagon
Gun Rights
PHrMA
Insurance Industry
Agriculture
Auto Industry
Teamsters
NFL
Oil& Gas
Green Energy
Amtrak
AMA
ABA
NCAA
CAIR
ACLU
SPLC
NEA
and on and on
If you vote with them, they help you.
Timely article from Sundance.
Important reading – linked right below:
Grifters Desecrating Charlie Kirk’s Memory Could Implode MAGA | Opinion – Newsweek
Candace Owens became a shameless grifter, a Nancy Graceless of the fake “right”.
The bullet conspiracies, in front of incredibly clear evidence, are mind-bogglingly stupid.
That Tucker follows her lead means he’s either corrupt or he lost his mind. Tertium non datur.
Also to watch:
Receipts EXPOSE The REAL Story Behind Charlie Kirk and Israel
The author of that editorial also plugged his book, “Israel and Civilization: The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West” in a previous column. Nobody should be surprised that the Israel First crowd is once again smearing Tucker and Candace just like they did Charlie Kirk until the day he was murdered. Editorial auto-ignored.
Tucker and Candace have taken to smearing Israel the last few years,
Isreal says we dont like that
OMG!! Why us Israel smearing Tucker and Candace?!!!
Yes, SMEAR. “Tucker is either corrupt or he lost his mind” is a smear. It’s one thing to say “Israel disagrees with Tucker’s opinion on their conflict.” It’s a smear to personally insult the man and question his integrity over it. Especially when Tucker is one of, if not THE, best journalists of his generation.
funny, I haven’t had any desire to listen to Tucker for a long time. Didn’t use to be that way.
Charlie Kirk had a great interview with Tucker Carlson this past July that’s worth checking out on Youtube. Apparently Charlie Kirk himself didn’t believe the BS that Tucker is “corrupt and lost his mind” like some in the comment section here would have you believe.
Maybe because his interviews now sometimes are hours long? Much easier broken into segments on Fox.
BS.
So we got two brazen grifters advancing idiotic conspiracy theories and, when exposed, they are “smeared”.
Charlie Kirk was loved more by those who don’t make a business out of seeing Israelis under their beds at night than by the fake patriots whose alleged love for the USA is amply surpassed by their hatred for anything Jewish.
Again with the smears. Are we really supposed to believe that Tucker Carlson of all people is a “fake patriot”? Really? Why would the Kirk family and President Trump invite a “fake patriot” to speak at Charlie’s funeral tomorrow? These smears don’t even make any narrative sense anymore.
Actually those are good questions!
Candace’s reputation is already in the toilet. Last seen she was sifting through Brigitte Macron’s drawers, like the FBI at Mar-a-lago.
Tucker lives off the way past glory days. Many people didn’t catch up yet with his descent into madness (and/or corruption). His reputation is on the same path as Candace’s. It’s not just that he caught the Israeli hate bug. EVERYthing he does nowadays has a sordid tabloid quality.
Jerry Springer without the ethics.
Again, if the Kirk family or President Trump actually believed any of these smears about Tucker—e.g. “descent into madness,” “Israeli hate bug, “Jerry Springer,” “fake patriot,”—then they wouldn’t be okay with sharing the same stage as him. And if President Trump himself doesn’t believe that trash, then why should anyone else here believe it?
President Trump puts up with a lot, a whole lot to get his message out.
He’s had to become something he intensely dislikes, (a politician) to make America great again.
And to be clear, “putting up with a lot” in this context means “invited Tucker to speak at a funeral that will be watched by tens of millions of Americans.”
Charlie was on the same stage with Candace a few years ago.
When it comes to Cutter Qatarlson, he is stepping on Candace’s drawn path more and more. People are just catching up with that.
It is ironic that poisonous charlatans with absolutely no proof can calumniate a country and an entire, long-slandered people, while when called out on their crookery, suddenly “smears” are beyond the pale.
Not buying any of that.
Please Mr hasbara, tell us what evidence you disingenuously are requesting.
You know you can’t debate cold hard facts.
No facts so there’s nothing to debate. Owens and such are sordid jokes, charlatans
It seems islamofascists pay their western moles rather handsomely. One serving of Hummus per post?
I do not need to be paid to take Israel’s side. Reality is enough.
Worship as you please ; Tucker and Candace have positioned themselves on a podium that they can’t seem to leave .
Within 24 hours her video had over
4 Million views.
It now has over 6 million views.
And that is just on YouTube.
To My Friend, Charlie Kirk. – YouTube
Great videos….and when you look…she
has a pretty strong following.
I follow her, and many friends do too.🤷♀️
These are almost certainly ALL hasbara defending Israel in this logic-free manner
Agree!
You would think that they would know that
the “gig is up” about the campaign to silence
Candace and Tucker…and it has been ..for months.
What is worse the so called “Christian pastors “
who took the bribes…or the Israeli Rabbi who
gave the bribes?
And they thought they would get away with it….
and no one would snitch…🤣🤣🤡🤡
People were sending her videos of the “Christian Pastors “
and their “sermons “…..and copies of the bribe correspondence.
She posted a couple of them on her podcasts. 🥴🥴😖
Those who wish to silence you-
are those who wish to control you.
Just. no. words.
June 28, 2025
Rumble
https://rumble.com/v6vd7af-to-catch-a-predator-israel-bribing-pastors-and-influencers.-candace-ep-207.html
Tucker tossed out the red meat to members of Generation X and the Millennials that “Baby Boomers” are responsible for all the difficulties of the younger generations to whom Charlie made his pitch on the college campuses. Charlie not only didn’t contradict Carlson, he joined in. That’s a big group of people to alienate one year before the mid-term elections. The hatred stirred up in the comments section spoke for itself. One huge generation controlled EVERYTHING in the economy from private enterprise job qualifications to the price of housing. Kirk got a lot of his big money donations from “Boomers” while Andrew Breitbart and Steve Bannon were from that generation and gave college dropout Kirk his big chance to build a successful and lucrative career as a political activist. With one video, Kirk endangered his reputation as a defender of “civil discourse” and the Christian belief in forgiveness.
There’s a lot of strange stuff going on here. Scripts are being flipped right and left. All the more reason to keep mining for evidence and don’t be too accepting of anything presented by federal officials and the mainstream media. We are dealing with a left that can support organizations showing vigilantes brandishing AK-47s, complete with high-capacity magazine, folding bayonet (!), and the brandisher’s finger inside the trigger guard while using Kirk’s shooting as a reason for gun control.
Wall-to-wall insanity and bedlam means we can’t just accept the first thing we see and hear.
Agree ; boomer bashing is an excuse for not improving one’s community .
Here they are. The Bigger Piggies. This is only meant for those that gave up their morals to appease their superiors during the plandemic.
I have no greater honor for those that stood their moral and constitutional ground and lost everything for what they believe is right.
God Bless those men, women and their families who are still fighting for freedom and their livelihoods. Just like the J6’ers. Please don’t forget these people. They didn’t just type shit on a keyboard. They fought the lies head on. They did not waver. They looked into the eyes of the enemy and said, “Hell, no.” Just like Charlie did and although they didn’t get murdered like Charlie they are still alive and fighting for their lives.
Just like the rest of us.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=RhY1x8CpWeI&list=OLAK5uy_ngFkZaiOccd84mOWCf4mZKbJrvsPzm8BE
As soon as someone tells me not to look at something, immediately I am going to go and check it out.
I’ve watched a few shows from Nick and Tucker over the last few months to ascertain what their beef was. I don’t agree with either of them on everything but they both have the capacity to raise valid points when they feel like it. Their conflict seems as though it were sparked and stoked to discredit both of them
I am currently 3/4 of the was through Candace Episode 239 :“who moved the camera behind Charlie’s head”..
I wonder how many on this thread have watched this or any of her recent podcasts since Charlie’s execution before jumping onto the “bash wagon”?
How can anyone know if they don’t agree with Candace if they don’t watch her say it?
All I know is Eric Bolling on the PBD podcast was lying his sorry ass off about Candace. Why would he do that? All I know it the flak get heavy over the target as folks around here are fond of saying.
I heard little in this most recent podcast from Candace that was inflammatory.
Then again I am a big fan of Micheal Savage and I’ve seen Alex Jones’ documentaries on 9/11 so I’ve not been a fan of Netanyahu and his antics for quite some time. His chutzpah endangers Jews Worldwide.
For anyone interested the “Jewcast” on X is highly informative.
P.S. I hadn’t seen the full clip of Kimmels joke that broke the camels back.
WTF was President Trump blathering on about some dumbass ballroom when the reporter asked him “how he was holding up” after his friends assassination. I’ve totally changed my thinking on this. No more infringements on Free Speech. Period.
I will be watching more Candace. Bet on it.
There’s no accounting for taste.
Read what you will. Watch what you will.
Just don’t smear (not that you did, but others did) anybody who doesn’t buy conspiratorial manure as Israel Firsters.
That’s what took Candace’s credibility way down the pipes, with Quatar Sidekick’s following.
I am sorry to see that, at least in part, Sundance’s entry and implicit invocation have fallen on deaf ears and dead souls.
Candace’s clickbait, hateful nonsense peddled on the grave of her alleged friend is beyond despicable.
Candace’s clickbait, hateful nonsense peddled on the grave of her alleged friend is beyond despicable.
So you HAVE watched her podcast? If not, then how can you state that??
Regarding taste – so you never listen to those you disagree with for any reason or to see for yourself what you are being brainwashed into believing is true? You most definitely do NOT have to like someone to listen to their point of view and there are many valid reasons to do so on occasion. Charlie did so constantly in order to understand the viewpoints and hold discussions with them in attempt to open their minds, offer them alternate views, and get them to think for themselves rather than simply adopted whatever slanted view or outright BS they were told.
I agree with you about Candice. She moved in to put the spotlight on herself. I have watched her & listened closely.
I believe she is into Kanye West who is a rabid anti semite. Turning Kirk onto his music. Trying to convert him to Catholicism. Now making a case that Israel was behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There is a reason Candice is not going to Charlie’s Memorial service. She was probably asked not to come.
I believe she is controlled opposition probably financially backed by Qatar.
She is saying look at Israel when we should be looking at Antifa & their activated Trans assassin team. Why do you think President Trump designated it a terrorist org? He knows what’s going on.
Candace is prob controlled opp – taking the place of AJ. But her employer is almost certainly a Zionist (remember the word “opposition”?).
I recommend watching her podcasts…
🙄🙄🙄
Charlie wife….Erika is…Catholic.
🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yes, I sometimes find myself assuming the 30,000 ft view as opposed to minute detail. It’s often what they are doing (Candace) more than what they are saying. (Although Tucker confuses me so far). It’s the same with Kimmel. He knows exactly what he is saying and why he is saying it. There is talk that Disney is wavering-surprise!-let them. I’d rather fight the Jimmy Kimmels to their face asking why he/they never engage a conservative rather than trying to suppress him. Kimmel is trying to gain moral high ground with his fight and it will work to an extent because the Marxist haters desperately need a toehold, and so far this is the only one in sight.
Remember all these people in the public eye have their price. A price where they will say or do anything. They are in the business of narrative engineering.
They do. Even Charlie. But like Tucker, Charlie reconsidered his pro Israel position.
It’s really not hard to do – genocide is as bad as buying and blackmailing a country’s lawmakers.
I just keep remembering about people who
obviously took those bribes….😖😖🥴
And how many people are aware of the campaign
against Candace and Tucker.
And now…any time people try to smear them…
a lot of people…especially youngsters do the
eye roll..🙄
Obviously, it was a first class… boomerang 🪃 .
Rumble…June 28, 2025
TO CATCH A PREDATOR! Israel BRIBING Pastors And Influencers. | Candace Ep 207
The Creator Renewed My Spirit When He Sent Me Back.
President Trump doesn’t blather. Period dot.
Alex Jones, Candace , Savage and Tucker on the other hand….
Best make up your mind who you support podcasters or MAGA.
Sorry that you are confused but what has your four done and what has President Trump done. Actions not words.
Trying to help.
Alex hasn’t lied to me yet. Candace seems straight up.
But I have noticed that a whole bunch of Treehousers have said some goofy sh!t to me when I was one of the few who backed Sundance up when he said ron! Was a turd in the punchbowl.
Treehousers called me names when I voiced opposition to JD and when the other more terrible staff picks were criticized.
Y’all jumped on me when I said the Iran Strikes were retarded. Then came the attacks when I would not, WILL NOT co-sign to the continued coverup of the Epstein Debacle.
Really the people I cannot trust are primarily found in plain sight of my favorite digital hangout. So much for considering opposing views. Maybe I don’t belong here after all.
Opposing views are fine. Be prepared to back them with logic and facts.
I whole heartedly agree with, “prove me wrong.”
Just don’t try to BS me with feels.
Honest Debate is why we’re all here.
People get mad at me because I am not as well spoken as Sundance but I do hew to the line, facts over feels. Prove me wrong I will thank you.
Where the honest debate, friend? You don’t even know what Candace had said like I do. You are arguing without the facts because you don’t like them. This place has really devolved. Now I know why so many people won’t waste their time here anymore.
Oh did you miss that I tried to watch her?
There are so many who want to confuse the issue for so many reasons but listen closely……
A father turned in his own son because he believed that the son murdered Charlie Kirk.
Think about what that takes. Don’t gloss over it. Pause and think again.
“There is no try, there is do and do not”- Yoda
Feels
Jinxy, that’s the one who’s been railing against anyone not buying the mainstream narrative; it’s not just you.
Mainstream narratives are not evidence.
0.o
Fringe Narratives usually prove correct. It’s the mainstream horseapples that I am having a difficult time choking down.
Fringe Narratives usually prove correct. It’s the mainstream horseapples that I am having a difficult time choking down.
All true.
Remember when President Kennedy was killed?
And what we’ve been hearing to this very day?
Lone nut with a magic bullet, right?
Well. Here we are again.
0.o
Facts please? Father turned in own son. Whatta got fuzzy?
Facts please? Father turned in own son. Whatta got fuzzy?
What does the father turning in his son have to do with evidence?
Did you ever stop to consider that the father turned the son in for the son’s own safety? And the safety of the other family members?
If the son was a suspect don’t you think any rational parent would rather turn in their own son rather than risk a swat arrest which could end in disaster?
0.o
You’re all the same person aren’t you? Marianne, Fuzzy, Cheshire, ellle, raven, Monticello, charlotte – just one hasbara is manning all these accounts?
You’re all the same person aren’t you? Marianne, Fuzzy, Cheshire, ellle, raven, Monticello, charlotte – just one hasbara is manning all these accounts?
No, I’m not all the same person, but, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
0.o
No, not Fuzzy….
Fuzzy is pretty rational.👍
Comments are always worth reading.
Exactly!
And I have a feeling that is exactly what
would have happened….a disaster.
💥💥
Jinxy…. I am following what you are saying..
not that it means a whole lot! I have been listening
to some interesting podcasts the last couple of days!
And yeah…..looking at some of the most eye rolling
comments….
Some should get awards for most …………🙄
Candace was probably trying to convert Charlie to Catholic
—is one of the best of the thread……..
Good grief…his wife Erika is Catholic 🤦♀️🤦♀️..but to fit into
the “ propaganda narrative” ….blame it on Candace.
And if people have not been following the stories and
developments and obviously have no clue…
I love the youngsters like Candace who just don’t except
the “official narrative “. Well jeez….that’s all folks! Move along.🙄
The COVID hoax woke a lot of them up at a really young age!
They already know that Fake News lies…President Trump
taught them that! Russia hoax taught them even more!
There is hope for the younger generations.!
Me too Jinxy…Me too…been some very eye opening experiences for me….one of the reasons I used to come to the Treehouse was because I thought all thought and opinion was respected and at least given some credence.
Not everyone disagreed with you, or found your thoughts to be new or different, since lots of us had the same thoughts even before you posted yours.
And again, “y’all” didn’t jump on you, since “y’all” do not think en masse.
In the same way we are not all going to agree with you.
Hopefully you’ll allow all of us to have our own views without bashing us.
You too huh?
Don’t be so precious, dude. We don’t all have to agree about every last thing to be on the same side.
No kidding. I can’t figure out how so many folks here, after all that we have witnessed together over the last 5 years, are hotter than fish grease to swallow anything from the FedGov that President Trump is still not fully in control of. And the parts he is in control of talk to us like we are imbeciles.
I hear ya. But the Israel stuff is very emotional and divisive, and the fact is no one really knows what’s going on, not even Alex Jones. And after so many years of watching communists lob division bombs into MAGA, I’m convinced this Israel stuff is just another one. You have a great voice here, and I enjoy your posts, so I hope you hang in there and keep posting.
Rock and roll, RI. We’re cool.
I am going to comment…then duck for cover.
Don’t think many are happy with explanation
for both of President Trump assassination
attempts. I am not!
Both were just kind of..swept under the rug.
Then we have one that was successful, and it
was Charlie Kirk!
Should be no surprise that not everyone is accepting
the ”official narrative “. It was a cluster from the get go…
starting with the guy who they thought ..or were told..
or said …he did it😡😡🥴😖
Dividing MAGA…….
Iran bombing went over like a lead balloon…
especially at first.
That could have went sideways really fast.
We were lucky. Not many people want another
conflict that looks like putting US boots on ground.
Epstein has been a cluster mess
for a long time. Still is really.
It’s not going to go away😖🥴
It is a good thing…MAGA is showing that
it is definitely Not a cult!
And…we are not sheep like Democrats/Liberals
who just follow the official narratives. We are
showing we are Independent thinkers…and not
like the Democrats and their installed puppet who
was…Sharp as a Tack!! 🥴🥴😖
From someone who is in the Deep South ; my area is probably as disconnected from the Israeli situation ( whatever it may be ) as any other community in the lower 48 . As such my take on such is still fluid as I absorb news , comments , and input from Sundance among others . I salute Sundance for recognizing need , timeliness , and clarity on such events and circumstances . His articles and discussions that follow are the bedrock for maintaining our freedoms and educating others of the need to do so . Civil discourse is imperative for this to happen . Thanks to Sundance and the treepers for making it happen daily .
The Treehouse would be poorer for your leaving Jinxy. Don’t allow those with closed minds or sharp tongues discourage you from sharing your own unique perspective, nor close your own mind to their views.
The sad fact is that at times it can be like wading into a liberal warren of intolerance, but the majority don’t have ill intentions and it does them good to hear views other than those they’ve accepted. Who knows, one day they might even learn that open minded discussion can help both sides examine their own viewpoint and refine their views.
Truth is…
Truth.
All I’ve heard is blather for 9 months.
Then you aren’t watching actions.
I won’t listen to him anymore I can only watch what he does and so far as a whole I expected so much more than what we’ve had.
One man cannot clone himself into all the cabinet positions. He can only appoint and ask that they follow his lead. Some like Gabbard are, some aren’t.
He was amazing when he listened to US, Monti. I want my President back.
Why can’t you just be happy and thankful that Trump is the President? Why are you expecting him to do everything YOU want? If you want total control you need to run for President and get elected. Trump is his own person, sometimes you’re going to agree with him and sometimes you aren’t. He has closed the border, made tax cuts permanent, is blowing up the narco-trafficking boats, trying to secure a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, cutting out as much government waste as he can, bringing in trillions with tariffs, and so much more. And yet you complain.
It seems obvious to me that Susie Wiles was an establishment plant. She has completely isolated the president and his foreign policy has now become the standard demonic neo-con insanity. Trump is now governing as an establishment figure.
The ballroom comment from Trump was a dagger to me. I’ve always known that he is an egotistical narcissist but in that moment it became very clear that he couldn’t take Charlie being the center of attention, even in death. I’m sick of his self-centered whining bullshit and I don’t find him funny anymore.
Concern noted.
.
Thank you Jinxy…100%. I feel like I am living in bizarro world lately…when DJT was running for president he had his finger on the pulse of what the American people felt…he listened. I don’t feel that anymore. OK people are about to jump on me, this I know…but I call it as I see it….Most importantly he is no where near in touch with the young generation. Charlie was his bridge…and Charlie was watching it slip. Like it or not, the younger generation do not care about Isreal. they care about jobs, and their futures. And they don’t see this Administration doing anything for them. This debacle with the H1B’s is a disaster and shows this administration has zero idea what is hurting the American people now. OK feel free to pile on now…
Agree!
We really don’t have straight answers about
the two Assassins who tried to take out
President Trump!
And people actually think that this one will
not raise even More questions?
🤦♀️🤦♀️
When did maga become pro war against Iran, Afghanistan, venezuela, and Yemen?
WTF was President Trump blathering on about some dumbass ballroom when the reporter asked him “how he was holding up” after his friends assassination.
What a nasty mischaracterization. Trump was asked on Fox & Friends about when he was told Charlie Kirk had been murdered. He said he was meeting with an architect for the ballroom project when he was informed about the murder. He wasn’t “blathering”, he was just describing the importance of the ballroom. Why would you write that about Trump? The whole interview was nearly an hour long I think, his comments about the ballroom took up maybe 1 minute.
As for the “dumbass” ballroom, it’s actually a great addition to the White House, much needed so that people don’t have to gather under a big tent. Other countries have beautiful spaces to host visitors, why don’t we?
I ain’t ever going to dance or dine in that ballroom. Food is becoming unaffordable here in the Sunshine State for anyone not on welfare or without the bank account of a Millionaire.
We are on the verge of another housing collapse to make 07-08 look like a sewing bee.
The Turkey Point nuclear reactor is leaking radiation in South Florida. These are a just a couple really pressing issues in President Trumps home State.
Jinxy, please don’t give up on CTH. This place wouldn’t be the same without you.
Again, spot on…I have been saying if I watch one more high end dinner with people in tuxes sitting down to a gold gilded dinner of expensive food and wine I will throw up…first with the Rose Garden crap and then the Buckingham Palace stuff…with the Tech Bros no less!!! There have been 3 extremely expensive high end fancy assed dinners in the past 3 weeks. It is CRAP. Meanwhile, most Americans are using their credit cards to buy Hamburger Helper (up 14.5% just read that one today!!) on default.
No, we have major issues here now with this Administration. The deafness is incredible. All “Maga” is afraid to point it out. And when you do you always get the SAME response “who would you have? Kamala?” stupid response. we are not a bunch of sycophants nor are we an echo chamber. we are heading quickly to a French/Bolshevik revolutionary moment and people are seeing it…
Do you also get mad when your neighbors or family members do well, get a better paying job, buy an expensive car, or live in a McMansion?
Do you not believe that there are positions and events that call for “high end dinner[s]”? Do you think brides should wear their worn jeans when they walk down the aisle? They should ask their guests to BYOB and a hot dish for the reception?
Yes, the President of the United States of America and the king of England were at a very expensive state dinner. Yes, it cost a lot of money.
Jesus told us that the poor will be with us always. (Matthew 26 part of 11)
Always.
And the only One that could have done something to change that was Jesus Himself. But He did not.
If we are heading quickly to a revolution it will be because there will be many people who believe we should all own the same stuff and no one should be allowed to attend fancy banquets if we all can’t attend fancy banquets.
Socialism will be the reason why.
So did you think that by supporting President Trump’s 3rd run for office that you would be invited to dinner at the White House? And maybe be invited to dine and dance in the ballroom President Trump would pay for out of his own pocket as a gift to us? Not us as in every American would be personally invited to dine there, but us as a legacy of how the White House was improved during President Trump’s time in office.
Did you expect President Trump would hand out cash to all Americans when you voted for him?
Did you expect President Trump would pay off everyone’s mortgage and give them free rent when you voted for him?
Did you think President Trump was going to become a socialist when you voted for him? Is that what you expected? Is that what you wanted?
I remember President Trump saying he was going to “fix” the economy, and he told us, essentially, to gird up our loins, ’cause things are going to get worse before they get better.
Things will get worse before they get better, which affects the food we buy, the money we pay out, and the cash we have, and do not have, on hand.
Republicans, Conservatives, are the people who, I believe, fight, work, and do for ourselves and our neighbors. If we have enough time to sit and whine on an internet website, we have enough time to make a real difference in this country, and we should focus on doing that.
Sorry you’re never going to dance or dine in the White House ballroom, but maybe the old grandmother down the road from you will be thrilled when you offer to pick up some groceries for her.
Trump has been intentionally diverting from both Epstein and Charlie. Over and over.
Tucker hosted the Charlie Kirk show…
It is definitely worth watching!! 💔💔
Rumble…1 day ago.
Tucker Carlson Hosts The Charlie Kirk Show
Oh the horror!../$. Great show this..
Good advice, all around.
Of course the original Telemachus is a character in Homer’s Odyssey.
Telemachus was Odysseus’ son. When Odysseus (Ulysses in the Roman version) finally makes it home after ten years of wanderings he finds his kingdom is overrun by greedy, worthless suitors trying to become the new king by marrying Odysseus’ wife Penelope. Penelope was doing her best to fend off their advances and kept inventing delay after delay to postpone needing to marry one of them.
Telemachus had been out searching the world looking for his long-lost father.
Odysseus returns to his kingdom in the guise of a beggar. Nobody except his loyal dog recognizes him.
Odysseus and Telemachus team up and slay all the suitors, returning Odysseus as rightful king of Ithica and reuniting with his queen Penelope.
There was a pretty good movie made of it…not as good as the book (movies never are), but still interesting.
Leave Israel out of it.
This stuff started with 9/11 and Bush who allowed the 9/11 terrorists to leave the US, including his bestie Banadar Bush
Court case pending
Saudi Arabia was complicit
Then Obama the Muslim Brotherhood queer gets elected, goes to Cairo and meets the Muslim Brotherhood. And thats where it all started with Obama fomenting his evil plans all over the US and the world
Trannies, Antifa, Soros, BLM, Democratic Socialist Alliance etc etc
If you dont see that the evil that lives in the US is due to Obama, Islam Qatar, Soros and the Muslim Brotherhood who want Islam to rule the world while first killing Jews then the Christians, you are missing the point.
The enemy is not Israel, its the scum inside the US that Obama and Biden have encouraged and let into the US and into the highest echelons of government to subvert a Christian nation
THATS who the enemy is
Genesis 12:3, where God promises Abraham: “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed”.
Another relevant verse is Numbers 24:9, which states, “Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, and whoever curses Israel will be cursed”.
Jesus was a Jew and the Jews in Israel and many countries (not the JINOs) stand with Christians
Israel is mourning the assasination of Charlie Kirk.
The other countries mentioned above? NOT AT ALL
In fact they are demonizing those citizens in their countries who mourn and hold prayer vigils for Charlie Kirk.
Just for starters look at nations who have cursed Israel who is fighting for survival:
UK
EU
Canada
Australia
Iran
As for Candace , Fuentes and Tucker Qatarlson–spewing hate from their platforms
Their downfall will come.
etc etc
Jewish and Christian worshipers sing and pray at Temple Mount in memory of Charlie Kirk
Group led by former Likud MK who survived an assassination attempt worships openly on Temple Mount in remembrance of slain conservative influencer: ‘We are here to pray’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-and-christian-worshipers-sing-and-pray-at-temple-mount-in-memory-of-charlie-kirk/
Thank you Charlotte99.
The blood libel of the fanatics is unbelievably dumb and pernicious, at the same time.
Hours after Charlie died, I wrote here:
“An extraordinary young man.
Handsome outside and, much more importantly, inside, also patient, brave, principled, kind, eloquent. He played at least a part, a substantial one, in the 2024 MAGA victory.
That his two children will grow without a father is unspeakably tragic…. but at the very least we know that Charlie married an exceptional mother, who will take amazing care of them, and that his children will be proud of their superb father’s legacy one year, five years, and eighty years from now.
May the family find some resemblance of peace, whenever God shall grant them some, hopefully soon. The warmest possible virtual hugs from many millions of grateful supporters. Charlie was literally a hero. He gave so much to his nation. All the love!!”
Little did I believe that some, from the darkest slimes of the Internet, would take the opportunity to express their eternal and unhealable hatreds on the account of this slain hero.
Beneath contempt.
Co-opting Charlie’s legacy with pro Zionist narratives is the height of depravity.
Nonsense.
He WAS a Zionist, demonstrated in dozens if not hundreds of debates and exchanges.
Follow the Benjamins is Ilhan Omar-type “discourse”.
Charlie Kirk started a global revival. I heard his wife say that would happen.
Then it did.
It started when JFK and RFK wanted Israel to register as a foreign agent so that we could keep our sovereignty.
We all know what happened to them. And Charlie.
Have you watched this?
Highly recommend 😉😉
Rumble
CODEX 9/11 MOVIE – Featuring BRAD ZERBO
It struck me as I was reading through some of the arguing and name calling that yes, I agree, Israel has an outsize impact on US elections, US dollars spent on them, etc.
But so does Somalia, just for one example. By many factors. Israel has returned SOME benefit on dollars spent. Whatever that actual ROI is, it’s a positive number.
Somalia is a negative ROI, no question. And the raw numbers of money directed to Somali grift versus Israeli is probably not that far off once we factor in the corruption and welfare costs and all the rest. So which is the bigger problem?
I sense that the deep state specifically the cia is hard at work manipulating minds with psycho ops.
What better way to turn rational people against every Jewish individual living in the USA than to set up and instigate situations to turn them against each other. First came marches, rallies, and stupid demonstrations like the hostage posters to rile up and ensnare the Jews who were horror stricken by the atrocities committed on oct 7 in Israel by the Gazan Arabs. Then the cia uses that show of support for the innocent Israeli victims into a narrative of support for the Israeli government’s prolonged war in Gaza. Lumping and labeling and gaslighting all American Jews into traitors that advocate for taxes to be sent there and heartless war pigs that rejoice at the murder of gaza babies. Nothing could be further than the truth and demonstrably so. Next you have emotional people like Candace Owens who begin with a firm opinion and twist every circumstance they can find to prove their already preconceived notion. It follows the exact same irrational reasoning pattern as the argument for systemic racism even though it flies smack in the face of obvious reality. There’s no room left for reasonable discussion and any shift in opinion. Charlie Kirk showed a diametrically opposite approach, he genuinely listened to opposing views with an honest and open mind, eager to learn and consider something new or gain a deeper understanding on the subject matter. That is why he was so filled with joy, kindness and was loved by others. He had no agenda other than the truth. He was able to see the good in people. And that’s why he had such a massive impact. He approached life with humility, realizing how much more there is to learn even from his detractors. He was a happy warrior. My heart still hurts. He will be greatly missed. Rest in peace Charlie.
Oh and I’m really glad his wife Erika took over TPUSA in his place and not a Josh Shapiro or a Candace Owens. May God bless her with strength and wisdom.
I guess we will all see what time it is when and IF (Big IF) Mrs. Kirk takes the silver from the Israel Lobby now that she is at the helm of TPUSA.
If Charlie had apprehensions about about anyone from anywhere trying to commandeer The Movement I am confident Erika would know what his thoughts were on the matter.
The organization should have no need for outside funding or influence moving forward.
You have a problem with Turning Point being supportive of Israel?
Does Israel have a problem with TPUSA being America First?
If there is no America anymore who will backstop Israel??
TPUSA WAS, IS, and likely WILL be America first without cheap insinuations about Jewish silver and the like.
This ilk of insinuations is worthy of Ilhan Omar – “it’s all about the benjamins” – not of somebody who actually thinks on evidence-based issues.
Nothing cheap about Jewish silver. I buy mine from KEPM..
I am remembering the gutter mouth Looney Loomer
and her meltdown 🫠🫠 X posts the last day of Turning
Point conference….and her comments about J….money and
how without it Turning Point and Charlie would fail….blah..
blah…blah…
🤷♀️🤷♀️
You didn’t answer my question. It’s a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ question.
You didn’t answer mine. I’m not anti Israel. I’m anti psychotic Mafia chieftains that like destroy anyone who gets in their way.
Any supporter of Charlie would take issue with the ONE nation that he was questioning before he was assassinated.
It would be a disservice to fail to mention his documented criticisms of the “genocide” (Charlie’s words) and “ethnic cleansing” (again, Charlie’s words)) resulting from the funding of hamas by Israel and standing down of the military for 7 hours to provoke these atrocities.
All of that was what Charlie was questioning. That’s why he turned down netanyahus offer of $150mil days before UVU.
Turning Point..is about…..
🇺🇸🇺🇸America First🇺🇸🇺🇸
🇺🇸🇺🇸MAGA🇺🇸🇺🇸
Period
Candace Owens seems to have gone astray.
A mind is a terrible thing to lose. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.
It’s a shame because she’s a very smart woman and she’s a rapid energetic speaker, she has charisma, and she’s very very pretty too. I just don’t understand why she had to get into fights or why she chose to obsess over Brigitte Macron which has now gotten her into trouble.
Highly recommended video:
Receipts EXPOSE The REAL Story Behind Charlie Kirk and Israel
Officer Tatum, one of the most respected black conservatives:
People are already trying to hijack Charlie’s death with anti-Semitic conspiracies and clout-chasing lies. Not here. I lay out the facts, roll the receipts on Fuentes/Bassem, and explain why blaming Israel is a distraction from the murderer and the hateful ideology that fueled him. Don’t let anyone rewrite Charlie’s legacy.
Sundance posted a few videos in article the other day.
In case you missed…this is one of the best…
instead of listening to others…
Listen to Charlie…..🤷♀️
VoxΩVeritas (@VoxExVeritas): Watch this. This was a month ago. Really watch it. If Charlie turned on israel…they’d be @HarrisonHSmith called it.” | XCancel
She fights….and that is what makes her so awesome!
She fights backs and calls out the haters.
👏👏👍👍
Except not everyone knows the gig has been up for
a few months…and they haven’t gotten the memo🙄
😉June 28, 2025..Rumble
TO CATCH A PREDATOR! Israel BRIBING Pastors And Influencers. | Candace Ep 207
We don’t have representation anymore though, so marches and protests are patently useless. The representation goes to Israel first, corporations second.
If it’s reasonable to consider that a shooter can also be a patsy for the deep state, set up to do their dirty work, than it’s equally reasonable to consider that a tiny country’s government like Israel can also be captured by the deep state here and set up to be the patsy doing their dirty work.
At the end of the day as much as we think we know, we can never really know what is actually going on. It’s all hidden in the fog of war. Don’t allow yourself to be manipulated into being a patsy either. Have the humility to understand that nobody can possibly know the absolute truth about what is really going on now other than God. And every lie contains a kernel of truth too.
And to want to direct all the righteous anger about an obvious evil peeking out behind the curtain committed by some nameless faceless hidden people is understandable but also very easy to manipulate by those very same people. As Sundance said be smart be wise and don’t fall for innuendos, however tempting it is to find someone to blame. Candace’s arguments against Jews are as convincing as the shooter’s trans propaganda argument and beef against Charlie. Made perfect sense to him in theory but delusional and disconnected in reality.
Also if it’s reasonable to consider that the funding of an organization like TPUSA can directly impact its decisions and be used to control it, than it’s also equally reasonable to consider that any country (like Israel etc..) relying on another country’s funding can also become controlled and manipulated by the donor country. It even has a name: a proxy or proxy war. China does it, USA does it too, all over the world. The same concept applies to any debt an individual has. They are indebted to the funder. And controlled by them. Not truly free nor acting on their true agency/will alone.
Heck, even the argument that Congress is controlled by Israel through lobbying and funding also adds reasonable doubt to the claim that Congress is controlled by Israel. because who is funding Israel? The USA’s foreign aid. Seems more like a financial Laundromat washing machine to launder our taxes for causes against our interest through a proxy than the state of Israel acting on its own. Corrupt to the core. Cut off the foreign aid spigot and watch the policies of the proxy countries shift to putting the interests of their own people first instead of acting like a patsy to the foreign countries that fund them.
In short:
If funding equals controlling. Than Israel is being controlled by the deep state and used as proxy to control Congress (or influencers) and to launder money. So too Ukraine. Etc.
The Jewish nation as a whole got nothing much to do with any of it other than being gaslit against their better interest.
Agree with everything you said, that’s been my understanding of Israel for quite a while but no one dare say it bc it’s essentially treason coming from the MIC and deep state.
It makes sense that the MIC is behind Israel’s bad behavior bc the MIC benefits the most of anyone.
And yes, funding generally equates with ownership either directly or thru proxy in a capitalist society.
In an evaluation of prayer versus agency, prayer is cheap, agency is difficult.
Prayer, to the One and Only God, Yahweh, through His Son, Jesus, is never cheap.
The Democrats are going to lose a lot of supporters this year because of their handling of the Charlie Kirk murder. I think this is going to cause major in-fighting among Democrats. All we need to do is be the adults in the room, standing firm and staying the course, and watch the Democrats implode. They are desperate for another January 6, don’t give it to them.
The FedGov gave us J6.
You can’t blame it all on “FedGov”. If the rally attendees had simply stayed outside of the Capitol building the Democrats would have had nothing to leverage for the past 4 1/2 years.
But back to my point: now we give them NOTHING to leverage. This is very important. If we remain peaceful we serve Trump well and we starve the Democrats of new material to use against us.
Yes, yes I can blame every square inch on the FedGov.
You seem to just want to argue with people. I won’t engage.
Good.
Nonsense. We own the Capitol building and everything else in that city. You can’t tell us to stay outside – we tell them to stay outside by not sending them there. J6 was an operation conceived entirely by the communists in government, most of whom are probably still there. And you are far too timid. It’s okay for them to shoot at us, but we can’t shoot back. F that. If you want your country back, you will have to fight for it. Trump can’t do it alone. I’m not here calling for war, but your passive mentality is a loser.
https://x.com/WyattCatarina/status/1969521168416755975
It’s so true.
People have become desensitized to actual brutality and violence but hopped up on the “violence” of words.
A sane world cannot reconcile the two.
I love that Charlie Kirk observed his own form of Shabbat.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nyD7RVdLZ5Y
Europe: “We demand a Two State Solution”
UN: “We demand a Two State Solution”
US Democrats: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Australia: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Canada: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Arab League: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Israel: “We offered it many times. We even gave them Gaza. Look what they did with it?”
Hamas, PLO and PA:
“We’re not actually sure why you’re all demanding a Two State Solution. And we’re not really sure why Israel offered us any proposals or gave us Gaza. We don’t want a damned Two State Solution. We want ALL of it, every inch of Israel, and we want to kill all the Jews. We’ve been pretty freaking clear about it in fact. We even did October 7 and will do it again and again and again and again until we kill them all.
And then, when we’ve got all of Israel and they’re all dead and we control Jerusalem, then we’re coming for ALL the world next.
Europe: “We demand a Two State Solution”
UN: “We demand a Two State Solution”
US Democrats: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Australia: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Canada: “We demand a Two State Solution”
Arab League: “We demand a Two State Solution”
And round and round we go. Cut, paste, repeat
https://nitter.poast.org/CherylWroteIt/status/1969400177782882368#m
Perfect. It’s exactly what has happened. Over and over again. A lot of people here are trashing Israel, and to the extent they trash Israeli influence in our government and IC, I completely agree. America First means America without foreign influence infecting American decisions.
But there is a larger concern, especially given the growing Islamization of America, and to address it, you just need to ask yourself: Would we rather have an ally who is opposed to Islamization, or would we rather lose that ally?
Sometimes we don’t ask the right questions. Islam is an existential threat to America and to the entirety of Western Civilization. We can’t ignore that, and we need allies in that fight. Seen in that light, Israel is definitely on the right side of history.
How many Muzzlems have been trafficked into the Republic by Mayorkas’ Pet Charity?
I have another question to ponder – what is an ally worth and what is a true ally? For myself, the answers to that are much the same as they would be if the word “ally” were changed to “friend.”
For the record, all other things aside, a much stronger and Christian ally would be Russia.
In any case, I’m not willing to give another nation or group undo influence over my own nation in order to have them be “an ally”, nor am I willing to “buy” them as an ally. Neither of those viewpoints are “antisemetic” or the absurd and death threatening “blood libel” insanity – in fact, that “blood libel” trope reminds me of Islamists.
THREAD:
@SpencerJJoseph
7h
How did Dearborn, Michigan become a center for Islamists in The U.S. ?
1. Henry Ford, the founder of Ford Motor Company, played a pivotal role in drawing waves of Arab immigrants, including many Muslims, to southeast Michigan in the early 20th century. Early arrivals settled near Ford’s Highland Park plant (opened 1910), where Muslims from Palestine (1908–1913) and elsewhere built the U.S.’s first purpose-built mosque in 1921. This migration laid the foundation for Dearborn’s transformation into the first Arab-majority city in The U.S. by 2023, with a population now over 109,000, more than half of whom trace their roots to the Middle East.
2. Ford was a well known racist and preferred hiring Middle Eastern immigrants over Black workers for skilled roles, exacerbating racial tensions but boosting Arab settlement. This influx of Arab workers created a self-sustaining community: immigrants opened mosques, markets and businesses (e.g., gas stations, groceries), reinforced by chain migration from family networks. Later waves (1960s–1980s), fleeing wars in Lebanon, Yemen and Palestine, built on this base after U.S. immigration reforms.
3. While Ford was openly anti-union and anti-Black, he was also notoriously antisemitic. He published The International Jew in his Dearborn Independent newspaper (1919–1927) specifically to spread antisemitic conspiracy theories.
4. Islamic extremism in Dearborn, Michigan emerged prominently in the early 2000s, tied to post 9/11 tensions, FBI surveillance of Arab communities and the 2003 Iraq War influx of refugees. Isolated pro-Hezbollah/Hamas sentiments date to the 1980s Lebanese Civil War, but visible radicalism (e.g., anti-Western rallies) surged after 9/11 and escalated post October 7th and the start of the Israel-Hamas conflict.
5. Dearborn initially had a large Lebanese and Assyrian Christian community, many of whom had fled Islamic persecution in the Middle East. However, by the 1980s, Islamists started arriving from Southern Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and Palestinian territories. Many Christians have now left and churches have been converted into mosques
https://nitter.poast.org/SpencerJJoseph/status/1969498091519701446#m
Are we surprised Dearborn mayor Abdullah Hammoud let a street be named after Hezbollah terrorist Osama Siblani—then smeared a Christian man calling it out as an “Islamophobe”? Nope. Just look who’s on his payroll: commissioner’s office staffer Adam Y. Abusalah …
https://nitter.poast.org/StopAntisemites/status/1968433364580385279#m
BOMBSHELL:
Newly revealed Hamas documents show the UK government kept working with Hamas even AFTER designating it a terrorist group in 2021. British officials held meetings with Hamas ministries in Gaza. UK-funded NGOs promised money would keep flowing. Publicly: “no contact with terrorists.” Privately: business as usual with Hamas.
UK Coordination and NGO Funding Continued Despite Hamas Terror Designation
https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/hamas-uk-coordination-docs/
You do realize we all can see that you’re paid hasbara agents? You’re such a dead giveaway, although sometimes you’re clever enough to attempt to take a middle pro Zionist position. Cult.
Thanks for the warning SD – can i offer a thought experiment?
which do we think is more likely? that the same FBI behind the Witmer hoax and J6 and [insert Sundance thread here], did NOT know about or infiltrate this underground cell of at least two dozen armed homicidal, ahem, – transformers – who knew about the shooting beforehand…
or…
…?
Another strange angle is the way Utah Governor Spencer Cox threw himself into position as the engineer driving that train wreck.
Would it surprise anyone to learn that he is slated to be JD Vance’s running mate in 2028?
0.o
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“When Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson and similarly aligned voices begin aggressively pushing anti-Israel positions, regardless of their merit, the outcome is that traditional Republican elements like Bush, McConnell, Rove, start smiling.
When the voices of Candace, Tucker and Nick Fuentes begin carving away a big chunk of attention within the MAGA tent, it is the Ron DeSantis wing of the Republican base who benefits numerically and financially.
If we don’t want to see the Nikki Haley, Jeb Bush, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz elements reemerge in out-scaled influence, then don’t fuel their bank accounts.
Amplifying anti-Jewish sentiments, Israel conspiracy theories, and various iterations of pushback against the aggressive Zionist movement, ends up with folks like Bill Ackman, Larry Ellison, David Ellison and Ken Griffin fueling an anti-MAGA option. The professionally Republican club would like this outcome.”
Exactly!
Beware of Israel is the leitmotiv.
Instead of the russians are coming the russians are coming now its the queers are coming the queers are coming.🦨😳
Not just Roger Stone, Michael Savage also doesn’t believe a word of the deep state’s theory.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-exclusive-political-assassination-expert-roger-stone-says-that-charlie-kirks-assassination-may-be-a-deep-state-operationl
If you believe the official story of the Kirk assassination, after all that we have been through in this country, then you are beyond help.
I don’t even believe the official story of the assassination
attempts on President Trump.
Both of those stories about the perps are….questionable.
🤷♀️
If you think the JQ can be ignored while Israel lobbying continues to blatantly jerk the marionette strings of Congress in front of everyone (Epstein vote just a few days ago,) I don’t know what to tell you.
Everyone younger than boomers has a majority negative attitude with Israel. With Gen Alpha, it is under 25% approval.
Tucker knows this, so does Dave Smith, and Nick Fuentes was talking about it 10 years ago.
Want to know why Fuentes clips are trending? Because young people are watching them. They have organic reach, something we would have all seen had he not been banned from everything in 2017. Nick would be bigger than Daily Wire right now if it were not for being banned.
You may think that the Rhino wing of the GOP will take over once the Jewish financiers of the Trump campaign decide that the noticing is too much, but I don’t think you understand how toxic those people are with the actual MAGA voting base. Yea, they will have the GOP, maybe, but it will be a husk, with no power, no voters, and most importantly, NO MONEY. The voters that elected Bush 43 in 2000 and 2008 are literally dead and gone.
There are generational swings afoot that I think you are missing, Sundance.
I don’t think what is going on with Fuentes is organic. Just for example, I had a normie friend reach out to me and ask who the hell Nick Fuentes is and why should she care about him? He is being astroturfed so hard that even she noticed it. My experience has been the same.
I do agree with your overall point. What I can’t decide is whether Israel has some out of touch older people making the PR decisions or if they just don’t give a damn. What makes me think it is the former is the futility of some of the
Zionist behavior, like buying CBS. People who watch CBS have the approved establishment view on everything. The TikTok purchase makes a lot more sense but it is about 2 years late.
The current situation is unsustainable and the toothpaste can’t go back in the tube. There has to be an open and honest discussion about Israel. There are legitimate arguments to be made about support for Israel being in the strategic interests of the US but that has to be built by consensus. Not by accusations of antisemitism or insane dispensationalist eschatology.
I do think Fuentes rise is organic. I have watched dissident right content since 2014, and really have been dissident right myself ever since the 1994 Waco raid.
Dissident right content was dominating political commentary on social media during the rise of Trump in 2016, and into 2017, and then the targeted cancellations started, especially after 2017 Unite the Right rally gave Big Tech an excuse. Nick has had to survive on the fringes for years, and he kept building an audience the whole time, so now that he is allowed on X, he is exploding. Note: Nick Fuentes is still not allowed on YouTube, Instagram or Facebook.
This might be off subject. I believe we as all Americans need to step back and remember what makes American truly exceptional. We as American’s have ability to disagree without destroying one another through violence. (EVIL)
The assassination of Charlie Kirk a loving husband, a father. His death wasn’t just an attack on one man; it was an attack on the principle that ideas should be debated, not silenced by force. No matter is should not matter political stance, this kind of violence is not who we are.
If this is the path we continue down, then we are not in America anymore.
I might be emotional wheeling as my only child of 23year old and husband flew cross country to attending the Charlie Kirk memorial in Arizona. Charlie Kirk made a huge impact on my 23years old, as well my whole family but mostly my 23 year old. I have been praying for their safety, while they are at this location. I have been praying that all who are in charge of all the safety are on point.
Thank you, my friend. Your words are wise and encouraging.
Blessings to All!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️😇😇
Never wise to run one way or the other to fast sometime inertia will take you over a cliff.
I was a daily Charlie Kirk watcher. And hope to be watching Erika Kirk. I enjoyed watching his Turning Point events. If not for watching Charlie I would have jumped down the rabbit hole regarding Israel. I admit I don’t like Netanyahu but still support the state of Israel. I don’t support the unending flow of US monetary support to Israel. I am what Charlie was – America First. That’s the lens I use.
The Pro Israel factions vs the Anti Israel factions have gotten toxic. Unfortunately I follow/watch podcasts of people on both sides of this spectrum. I’ve gotten to the point if they are talking about Israel that day I don’t watch or read what they have to say. That goes for Tucker and Candice Owens. I actually don’t watch a lot of Candace and never have. Tucker though, I do watch. In order to continue whenever he has anything remotely connected to talking about Israel I avoid it. Same goes for Laura Loomer. I try to avoid the internecine battles between the bomb throwers.
I try to give President Trump leeway on dealing with both Israel and Ukraine. I admit I don’t understand why he doesn’t just stop with the financial/military support for either but since I’m not walking in his shoes I try to think there has to be a reason I don’t know about. I still don’t agree with his decisions but I’m not going to go anti Trump because of it. I think of all the positive things he’s done to counter balance the things I don’t agree.
Carlson revealed without much detail that Murdoch offered him funding/support if Carlson would challenge Trump.
It is my opinion (with TC’s hateful Trump and MAGA texts calling MAGA cousin f&$ckers as a basis) That the only reason Carlson didn’t challenge Trump was because he got in the Trump inner circle and realized he couldn’t win against Trump.
Also TC never told the rest of the story of his demon attack. Why? His giggles may have an agenda, and as he would say– we should all be aware.
Has TC ever admitted DeSantis was a establishment tool? I think TC while cool and popular is a mole, a spy, for Murdoch. Where did TC get the money for his entire media company and mostly same Fox staff? Where did the once broke Glenn Beck get his start up money?
I think CK was genuine and a bridge between Qatar and Mossad. But reality is they are all funded by someone. Meg Kelly is going all Tucker claims she is controlled by no one. I think the only honest influencer was just murdered. It is so sad.
SIDE subject: Where is Devin Niunes on why Patel is not dismantling the corrupt FBI?
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Thank you, Sundance!
Sundance, Thank you for the history lesson regarding Telemachus and for the notes of caution as we move forward., I had not read about him in all of my readings.
Another perspective. Charlie Kirk as Telemachus.
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“The Alinsky tactics of the abusers are being turned against them by the abused.”
Alinsky’s book on how to destroy America’s best traditions and institutions, became a blueprint for despots. We must, as Sundance advises, be very careful in our response to the Alinsky-ites.
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Sundance,
You state this:
“There are legitimate criticisms for the government of Israel that are well founded and well deserved.”
Are there? Really? Please explain.
Dims are fond of calling everything a “dog whistle” in an attempt to turn it into that which it isn’t.
Here is a real whistle – and it isn’t a “dog whistle”, it’s a “violence whistle” – the very kind that drove Charlie’s assassin.
Per Sundance: “Do not underestimate the ability of Democrats to flip from abuser to proclaimed victim on the issue of ‘free speech’. The radical left, the Marxists, do not have the word hypocrite in their political dictionary; they are professional, narcissistic abusers.” Emphasis added.
Sundance also mentioned MONEY. That IMO is the mega unifier.
I am tempering my GenZ son(age 27) and his friends from going off on Jews; their argument is that our oligarchs are responsible for raising costs with inflation and they all of a Jewish relationships. I was absolutely surprised to see Fink, Brin, Zucherberg et al. have Jewish roots.
I use articles like these to help temper these young men who follow fools like Fuentes. Thanks to you all, especially SD. Very perilous times here.
God is a Zionist. Prove him wrong:
And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel; Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself. Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Exodus 19:3-6
In the years that followed there came a dark time and the Lord turned His hand against the descendants of Jacob – 2 Kings 24-25.
So ends the lesson of a very important point that far too many chose to ignore.
So many points to make that this would take all day to compose, but I will attempt only a few.
First, having actually listened to Tucker, Candace and Meghan Kelly’s podcasts, none of them have blamed Kirk’s murder on Israel but have called out Bibi for his lies on the lies by omission in his recent Kirk statements. This is normal behavior of friends upset over the Israeli PM trying to grift the public over Charlie Kirk’s murder.
Second, Candace has merely been questioning the lack of details provided to the public by authorities and the inconsistencies in the evidence which could easily be settle by Kash Patel with an open communication. This is how he can circumvent the bad actors within the FBI who Sundance says are trying to derail the Trump narrative.
You also have to remember she is has been under assault by the ADL and the zionist lobby for several years where they have gotten her banned from several countries and voted her antisemite of the year last year just because she has spoken out aginst Bibi and the Gaza slaughter. She is still fighting the Australia ban in court.
Third, It is Pam Bondi and The Trump administration who is leading the charge against Free Speech which will boomerang and let the Democrats beat us over the head with in 2026. President Trump has allowed this incompetent to cause him great harm all year long along with him unbelievable shift in his undeniable over the top support of Bibi when America in both parties has been disgusted by Bibi and the treatment of the people in Gaza. Even half of Israel wants Bibi in jail for corruption.
Candace and Tucker are canaries in the coal mine and President Trump needs to look at those advising him. The government has earned the right to not be trusted and the people have been awakened by 9/11, Ukraine, illegals, Israel grift, and now Charlie Kirk. Extra openness is required or the right will turn to Governor Ron who looks like a bastion of stabilty right now.
I have read that tucker Carlson receives substantial funding for his “show” from qatar.
I do not know if this is true or not, but when you listen closely to many of his opinions, conspicuously, there does appear to be some kind of political alignment or at a minimum, little to no criticism.
I first read about this when I learned that qatar openly donated a Boeing 747 to President Trump. This of course, made me tense, given qatar has this unusual association with US politics and has a variety of lobby groups that has spent billions upon billions to lobby/influence quite a number of Political figures, and political parties and campaigns. I am opposed to President Trump or ANY political figures, national or state level receiving any kinds of foreign donations….I believe this is antithetical to the American principle. That power, money, influence must never come from a foreign nation, but solely and only from the American Citizen. I understand it is not necessarily unlawful, but it should be prohibited by law that any US political organization, campaign or elected official receive ANY money or gifts from a foreign country. I am okay with personal gifts, like something like a real nifty ink pen to signify some important agreement or treastie…or maybe a cultural customary jacket or tie, or shoes, or maybe a really nice feast with dignitaries, or some trinkets for the wife and children.
but not billion dollar aircraft to fly the President Around in. That ridiculous and it just smells wrong.
A few years ago, the former state attorney general, Landry, now Governor of Lousiana, was accused to wrongfully accepting a private jet flight to Hawai’i for a Attorney General Conference. And it was true, he did in fact fly for free, in the personal jet, as did over 20 other state attorney generals. It was not a good look. It was wasteful, but not illegal.
and that is really the point…it’s about the perception that an elected official has a duty and an obligation not to waste money, not to receive some special contribution, service or substantial gift. it diminishes public trust. Now I defended Landry, because the radical left was attacking him and doing it plainly in the middle of his campaign for governor, but it was still a bad decision to fly on a private jet half way around the world using private donations. And that was his defense. tax payers did not pay for this.
but that doesn’t really explain the problem..it dodges the problem.
We the people pay for our elected officials. They take office with the understanding that this is public service not some gig where they gifted hundreds of thousands of dollars, sometimes millions from private and foreign donors.
we KNOW why they are getting paid, why these giant sized gifts are made….everyone knows.
but it still does not make it right.
tucker carlson…lets get back to him. He is not an elected official. However, he puts himself out there as some kind of objective media/journalists. And he has a pretty good sized audience. But I really wonder if that same audience knows just how much money he receives from Qatar.
and for WHAT?
God Bless America
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