As previously noted, Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley released some of the FBI investigative files related to a congressional referral of Nellie Ohr for false testimony to congress. Within the Grassley release the declassified FBI investigative notes show that Trump-Russia files were compartmentalized, allowing control over access to them by the FBI Director and FBI Deputy Director.
The 7th floor level classification within the FBI’s Sentinel record-keeping system was previously unknown, and now people are starting to ask questions about what other information may be filed yet invisible due to the classification designation of “Prohibited Access.”
The Sentinel record-keeping system allows FBI officials and investigators to review and research the status of investigations both past and current. The Sentinel system is also the information system that is searched for responsive documents to legal cases and FOIA inquires. The Sentinel system contains all the information used by the FBI.
Within the Sentinel system there are “Restricted Access” files that are used to control who can view the file information. The FBI official can see the file but cannot access the information within it without a higher clearance level. However, now people are discovering there is a “Prohibited Access” designation that makes the file invisible to searches or queries and is controlled by the FBI Director and FBI Deputy Director.
Margot Cleveland is asking some good questions about how the use of the “Prohibited Access” designation may circumvent the FBI’s legal requirements (brady material) and FOIA searches. [SEE HERE] However, I would also note this approach hides information not only from congress and from the public, but also from the Executive branch itself. The DNI wouldn’t even know what information exists.
Additionally, we can expand the overall issue to highlight this same approach at work in various other governmental agencies. This is one of the reasons I refer to the agencies within government more aptly as information “silos.”
The same “secrecy filtering” system outlined in the FBI Sentinel system, “restricted access” (visible but needing a higher clearance) vs “prohibited access” (totally invisible) exists in other govt systems.
The NSA, DHS and CIA contain the same issue, information hidden and kept secret. This is the core reason I have historically called them “silos.”
The same ‘what the heck’ realization encountered with the FBI file keeping, as noted by the Grassley revelations, extends far beyond the FBI.
This is also why I have said the Intelligence Community has created a “caste system” within the surveillance and information space.
Now do you see why elements of the IC, and by extension their political enablers, were going bananas about DOGE access?
Simmer on it for a moment, because it gets worse.
Right now, like right now while you are reading this, the same framework is being applied to the DHS surveillance network, where “restricted access” and “prohibited access” (invisible) are being applied to PEOPLE.
Our government, via Palantir, is currently building the domestic identity surveillance system, where every identity will be stored. However, within the storage, and by extension the parameters of the surveillance search results, there will be people who are defined by placing their identity in the “prohibited access” category.
Great job realizing the secrecy ramifications of the issue within the FBI and their exploitation therein. Now extend that realization to the ramifications for us of other silos doing the same.
I was told in August 2020 that the FBI investigative file into James Wolfe leaking the Carter Page FISA application, is in the “prohibited access” tier of the FBI because it outlines Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Vice-Chairman Mark Warner participating and directing the leak. That was how/why SSCI Security Director James Wolfe was never charged with leaking a TSCI classified file.
Is the President of the United States really in charge of the executive branch, when the agencies can easily hide information from him?
.
Try Comey then string him up by his toenails when he’s found guilty of treason.
I was thinking someplace more substantial, about 3 1/2 feet higher…
As SD indicates, it is so much deeper and also populated with many without male appendages
He has no huevos.
I was thinking Sicilian necktie.
and with piano wire…
Me too!
They are selling bumper stickers with those digits on eBay.. Comey thought it was cute, it’s not funny, there are a lot of sick people out there.
Then again he knows this.
Of course he knew/knows it, Xavier. The man calculates and schemes. He is a malevolent piece with of work with a colossal ego. Arrogant and dare I say the possessor of a twisted, sick psyche.
He didn’t come up with this all on his own.
Mark Warner, John Brennan, Mary McCord…all together on the scaffold.
Exactly.
There is only one way the FBLie earns the peoples trust moving forward….
It need to be leveled…eradicated….burned to the ground and the Earth upon which it stood salted…
To those who broke the law and turned the Constitution on it’s ear….
NO MERCY!
Carthage
Delenda est IC.
Babylon.
Formerly known as G-Men, now it’s “Gee- man?”
No worries hostages Kash & Dash are on it.
Xavier: G-string Men.
…- The thong remainth the thame…
For those that may not know why the earth is salted, it is so NOTHING grows there.
It remains a desolate wasteland that can not be production for a very long time. It’s a testament to something so horrid that it must be remain barren.
Most Treepers will know but some may not.
that has as much of a chance of happening as the Hover Building being turned into the Museum of the Deep State
The Hoover building can be made in to living quarters for homeless Vets…
Horrible brutalist architecture. Needs to be dismantled. Scattered to the wind.
As many here have mentioned…
Do we need an fib?
Nope.
The decades-long propaganda push to convince citizens the
‘fib’ is
Necessary
Critical
Does a unique job
Full of
Professional
Loyal
Patriotic
Agents
Was just that – propaganda.
If the President can Close down a Cabinet-level Department (like the Dept of Education),
Can he not close down a mere agency??
(One of course, that does have powerful supporters)
At some point, I hope that the President sees that shutting down the fib makes good sense,
Legally
Morally
Ethically
And
Politically.
Note that we’re not hearing this from Pam or Kash, who promised transparency.
What makes you think Kash, Pam or Bongino were “read into” and so know about this “restricted access” ?
After all, just don’t tell them, makes the comspiracy much easier to maintain.
Revelations beget revelations if you let them
We STILL have so much to learn that remains undiscovered, the handcuff and frogmarch thingy is a sugar-high…REAL justice begins with exposure
When Trump says he’s willing to entertain a P-Diddy pardon, we should take note and apply accordingly
sometimes our very stable genius is too compassionate.
Is this ” the here-to- fore unknown room full of evidence ” that Bongino told us about?
This dime store detective novel is getting kinda interesting.
“Talk is cheap if it doesn’t motivate action.”
~ Dan Bongino
Yeah, I was picturing that there were files and documents that just didn’t get logged into the system, but it’s possible he was talking about a metaphorical “room.” Who knows how long it’s going to take to go through all of it? Is it big or is it little?
Who found this? DOGE?
If Hoffmeister and I are thinking of the same incident, it was Bongino who said that once he & Kash took over, they were led to this “silo” of evidence by their own agents. This was quite recent.
The dead give away should have been, there wasn’t a seventh floor button on the elevator…
Read it was some employees in the FBI that informed them…actual Patriots.
He said so. He said as soon as they came in, there were people saying, hey boss, you need to look at this . . . .
“Restricted Access” to people like Musk’s warriors is just a blinking red light that says start here.
The passwords were surely taped under their desks.
Kash is busy with a multi-billion $ FBI Headquarters to be built. You know because, 99 % are good people.
Not a new building, as I undserstood Kash, but a different already built building. They are already moving.
Tear down the current monstrosity the FBI inhabits and let nature takeover. What about Langley?
A literal tear down is something the the ancients understood as a spiritual remedy and will benefit us as well.
I wonder if Thomas Crooks in the the Prohibited access?
Joe Biden or Jill Biden?
I’m still waiting for someone to explain why the FBI went to hose down the rooftop lickety split, why the Crooks home was professionally scrubbed, what DC phone numbers were associated with the Crooks’ phone/s and how in the heck the family ended up with such an expensive high profile attorney when they have limited means.
We can’t possibly expect any answers to these important questions – it might interfere with Bongino’s recovery or his family dynamics or Kash moving to Vegas (isn’t that where his girlfriend lives or do I have that wrong?). I suppose we will never have any answers to the questions asked by Hoosier. No different than the JFK assassination except that at first some of us actually believed he was killed by a lone nut because we were not as accustomed to our government lying then as we are now. It is now time for some drastic action to be taken by President Trump. We cannot go on living by lies in our own country. America was supposed to be better than this – why other countries looked up to us and saw us as their guiding light. If Trump has to remove every office-holder, including and especially the Congress, he must do it. These traitors MUST be held to account or we are a fake country. We must be strong enough to admit what has been allowed to happen to the beautiful country our forefathers left us. Everything associated with these traitors must be burned to the ground after the evidence is shown to everyone. Maybe someone like Stephen Miller can show us the way, how to do this and how to start over.
Because it was the FBI’s op.
Besides the
Actual harm
The fib
Causes America…
What about the
cia?
Do we Really need
The cia
As it is currently
Constituted?
Do we need some kind of way to keep track of what our adversaries and enemies are doing?
Yes, unfortunately, we do.
But What The H- – – has the cia been doing the past who-knows-how-long?
Gathering information –
Or causing harm to
America?
So much for our President to consider.
We are fortunate to have a man such as he.
Tear the currently building apart and find all the skeletons of evil doing!
You are sorely incorrect, but if spreading rumors and bias is your thing….
Kash has been repeatedly stating that he is working with Congressional partners to release information. Perhaps it is because once released on the congressional floor even if not officially silo declassified all are held harmless and it becomes part of the congressional record.
Lets watch how this pans outs. The political animals of congress will reveal and publicize if it moves the political needle.
By the way these files make a strong case for “under cover of law” charges and since it was a shared swiming pool, Conspiracy Both i beleive have no statues of limitations. Comey might have some interesting seashells in those files.
Keep in mind Classification is done in modern government to cover embarrassment and wrong doing The deeper the classification the darker the secret
Cash is working with congressional partners to release information? Give me one example of when information given to Congress was then made public and was truthful both of those conditions have to be met
Grassley just released information provided by Kash… the subject of the article to which you are replying 😉
The politikrats of either party will not necessarily “reveal and publicize” – they have way too many other irons in the fire to consider. The information should simply be on a website, run by the Executive Branch agency, not filtered by Congress who are naturally risk averse.
There is an SOL, but it can be tolled (suspended) while information is hidden.
F releasing findings to the “sternly written letter writers”. Why don’t you do your job Patel and release info to DOJ. Oh yeah go to congress because you will at least get a letter out of it vs nothing.
It’s now clear that those two play for the Deep State team. Useful idiots at best
Not at all ‘Clear’
Critical questions are ? When was this “prohibited access” and “restricted access “ into the databases implemented. Who originally authorized it? Was it simultaneously implemented? We now know the what and the where, but the who, when and why are just as important. Was 9/11 the beginning or did this cast system exist before and evolve into the current mess.
I’ll bet, if you dig deep enough…it’s been a way of life since it was in it’s diapers…Like the kind it’s father J Edger loved to wear….
If you dig deep enough and stop reading today’s “politically correct” history, you will find that J Edgar Hoover was a victim of political assassination because he was investigating several prominent politicians… All of that crap about Hoover being a “cross-dresser”, including the “photos”, was fake news…
You must be young. Nice try but some of us were around during the time of Hoover.
I did hear that from a former CIA agent that authored a book, he was laughing when he was talking about it on the radio. Wish I could remember the name,
There has always been a system like this because there has always been a need to have a system like this.
For example, let’s say I’m controlling a KGB mole during the Cold War. I can’t have ever Tom, Dick and Harry doing a search for something and finding out the name of my mole; or even that my mole exists at all. I have to protect this information even from those who have the proper classification.
This mole (and even the knowledge that mole exists) must be in a very selective silo. So, this type of system has always existed.
The fact that the intel community is abusing it is the real issue.
Nation State level spying should be a military function and not a civilian one. An error by design IMO…
The Military, in nearly all cases is subject to the Civilian,, when a MIlitary person becomes a dictator, he then allies himself with the Civilian, either openly, or quietly, and Uses the Military to enforce his commands.
If anything our latest crop of generals have proven that the last people in the world you want in charge of secret operations is the military.
I read elsewhere it was implemented 2012 for what it’s worth. I believe that was Comey’s reign.
It has ALWAYS been around in Intel Orgs.
It would be nice if the FBI Director and Deputy Director would come out and say that FBI information is no longer being hid based on Comey’s “sensitivity of the matter” determination! Sensitivity isn’t a National Security classification it’s an opinion!!! JMO
uh, Senator Charles Grassley received the information from those whose job it is to get it to him.
[Hint: it wasn’t Jake The Fake Tapmeonmyhead]
President Kennedy caused the death of one of our sources in USSR during the Cuban Missile Crisis, by speaking in a manner that the USSR was able to deduce that Kennedy revealed information that indicated our source was the provider of the material. He died within hours.
As I stated earlier,,,this ‘classification’ has always been with Intel Orgs……..I was in one, decades ago.
Greer’s dictum:…
…- The likelihood of a secret’s being blown is proportional to the square of the number of people who are in on it.
SD found the ” access tier in 2020″ and Kash, Bongino, just discovering it now?? The rot is indeed deep…
You read the article more carefully than I did. I missed that Sundance was told of an access tier in 2020 but didn’t realize it led to “Prohibited”, which led to my question below.
The ‘2020’ really jumped out to me..🫡
No, SD wrote that he was told the “FBI investigative file into James Wolfe leaking the Carter Page FISA application is in the prohibited access tier of the FBI…”. So SD knew it was classified as prohibited access back then.
But….IDK if SD understood at that time the total extent of blocked access that resulted from that classification.
Did Sundance tell them recently or did he keep it to himself?
Only SD knows…
They chose the wrong guy to play cute didn’t they?
Did Grassley’s release the first revelation of “Prohibited Access” or had Sundance or others intuited that there was another level of secrecy from other sources? Did it come to Kash in a dream?
Epiphany!
If “prohibited” and “restricted” access exist, you can bet they are creating other nefarious categories faster than they are discovered.
Across all govt ( gosh, maybe public & private institutions?) , and several levels deeper then restricted? Ma, get out the burn barrel, were burning all our investments account records right now – dam doge revenuers are coming!
Digitally they may well be doing just that.
Suspicious Cat just set off alarm bells all across the District of Corruption.
DOGE the entire government starting Monday at 8am.
I get you, Nick, however be careful of conjuring in your mind unnecessary rabbit holes, where it’s ‘nothing but clearances, all the way down’. Beyond the ‘Prohibited Access’ category Sundance describes, there’s really not much further you can go – maybe one or two levels higher/deeper…
…- It’s a question of epistemology, ie: ‘Knowledge’, and what can *Possibly* be ‘known’ about that ‘knowledge’ by anyone seeking to ‘know’ it…
…- So, suppose you’re the IC and you have in your possession a document you want kept secret, some piece of intel, or details of an operation, or an internal memo, or evidence of your own criminal culpability, say… – Beyond placing it in a definite category of ‘Prohibited Access’, where nobody below the 7th floor or the Agency Director/Deputy Director can view it, or even knows it exists, you only really have one or two further levels of ‘clearance’ beyond that and that would be to simply never log it into the system at all and to either air-gap the original document in a safe or somesuch, bury it in the ground, or destroy it outright (level #1)… – Or, conversely, to just never create the document in the first place (level #2)…
…- ‘Level #2’ being information consisting of *Entirely* informal verbal discussions/agreements between IC members, eg: held over a Sunday morning round of golf, away from any possible eavesdropping, and subsequently existing solely within the minds of the participants… – The only way anyone else could possibly be privy to intel of that ‘clearance level’ is if you got a-hold of one (or more) of the parties to the discussion, after the fact, tied them to a chair and proceeded to rip out their fingernails… – YMMV tho’, on whether or not they would necessarily divulge that information, under those circumstances…
Rather than hierarchical I would assume these unsearchable groups might be located in parallel, like separate hidden closets. For example, ComeyDeadBodies, BarrDeadBodies, RosensteinDeadBodies, …
JimB82 replied, regarding ‘Mirror’ Servers, to one of my other comments over on the next page, Nick…
…- Expect Data Centres to be a *Major* growth industry (Except for the ‘Level #2’ stuff, obviously)…
…- ‘ClintonDeadBodies’ would *Very Obviously* require a *Whole Bunch* of *Extra Large* Data Centres for each and every single ‘mirror’, of course… 😉
Nevermind my prior two replies to you here, Nick, I’ll say you’re likely correct, and allow me to expand:…
…- I follow another blogger, who covers surveillence/Cabal sh*tbaggery, who has a theory that *Above A Certain Point* on the Totem Pole the various players involved regard Blackmail/Kompromat material, on each other, but *Especially* on *Themselves*, weirdly enough, as a form of ‘currency’…
…- His theory is that handing over ‘Kompromat’ on themselves, doing something completely heinous in order to prove ‘loyalty’ to the cause, is basically their admission ticket through the front door of the ‘Big Club’…
…- Plus, since they’re all trust-incapable psycho-/socio-paths up there in those rareified heights, the trading and holding-over such ‘Kompromat’ on one-another/themselves serves as a kind of ‘unit-of-exchange/-account/store-of-value’ (ie: ‘currency’) that substitutes for them the social function that trust fulfills for the rest of us Joe-Blow normies, down here in the gutter…
…- Suffice to say, I found his theory reasonably compelling…
Who
has access to the “prohibited access” category?
Also:
WHO will determine those in the identity “prohibited access” category of the Palantir domestic surveillance system currently being built???
Not “who has access” rather “who can grant access”
FTA – “…is controlled by the FBI Director and FBI Deputy Director.” Only those two have access to the files with that designation. I’m not sure if they can assign access to others but my guess is – yes. But only those two control both the assignment of that classification AND who has access to files having that classification.
If the FBI is part of the Executive branch, the President “should” have access – no questions asked.
Of course. POTUS should be the default access for any and ALL classifications. NONE should exclude POTUS.
And all their IT guys have access. It’s like the Air National Guard guy in Massachusetts, an IT guy who had access to TS/SCI files on Israel and Ukraine.
Bari, do you believe that Christopher Wray passed the access information to Kash and Bongino?
I have no information one way or the other, Patience so IDK.
If I had to guess, I’d guess that Kash or Bongino can get an IT specialist to reveal the data if it still exists (if Wray lies about it) regardless of classification and encryption.
But was that access turned over when the previous directors were evicted from their positions?
I don’t know why any of us would know the answer to that question. That would seem to be very very inside information.
One thing being overlooked is who are he IT pros that grant Admin privileges to FBI Director and Dep Director?
Someone is backing up his info and doing all kinds of password and data work on these files.
Was it the Pakistani guys, Crowdstrike Ukraine guys, or Google guys in China?
To me, the IT people know everything and grant everything, so start looking at them.
They hold the power and that’s why DOGE guys need to meet fire with fire and expose the truth.
I don’t know for sure, but I think you are overlooking the strong possibility that the IT support people cannot see the encrypted contents once classified and encrypted accordingly. They may see “files” but cannot read the contents.
My confusion grows. A classification of let’s say “drivel” is one thing, but the DNI has access to it unless The DNI is unaware of that classification existence? The FBI agents doing searches over time must have seen the sudden existence of files marked restricted which previously they didn’t know existed because the were classified “prohibited “? Also the actual agent or agents who gathered the information classified prohibited must know their data disappeared from the system? I would think the person holding the DNI position would as a matter course know that intelligence agencies hide things and one of the first things they would do is go to the head of each agency and inform them that where and how they hide everything now with and index or face prison time ? I had a headache now it’s worse.
IMHO y’all are WAY overthinking this, mostly because y’all are speculating based on a series of assumptions the validity for which we have zero proof either way.
Normal “real world” logic doesn’t always work when discussing U.S. government entities, so right away most speculations are in very murky water……
… double secret probation …
~dean wormer
Patel/Bongino need to make some arrests
And soon.
Those two know better than you when that will be.
Arrest must start with James Comey. And no bail.
Don’t hold your breath.
My preference would be to package this whole shindig under martial law/ military tribunal action, away from corrupted federal judiciary. I think that may be why every aspect , every govt and privately directed criminal operations cartels are being drawn out into public view. The parameters and depth of corruption is far outside action from our compromised judicial systems!
Wow. Brilliant.
So now what happens? Can Patel release the files now or do the files needs to be reclassified before the public will find out what really happened?
Now the Derp Spin begins to Nostradumbus.
They are working for Pr. Trump, and that decision will be made by others.
And Kash looks at Dan and they both say “what 7th floor?”
Reminds me of the Watergate burglars and the set up to get Nixon perhaps.
Am I the only one who remembers this coming up prior to President Trump winning the first election in 2016? It was implied that the 7th floor had been eliminated. I wish I could remember and find access to the information. It was discussed here I know because this is the only place I read….. I don’t remember the exact date because I’ve been reading here since 2012. I’m sorry Sundance if I’m stepping on your toes but I really do remember it, just not exactly when.
7th floor is prohibited…./s
No the President is not in charge. So the Director can authorize a covert op and make the whole thing Prohibited Information?
Sounds like we have more in common with Mao and Stalin than I thought. The 1st and 4th Amendments are just about toast.
In a smaller scale I see the propaganda in the Media reporting on the Russia/Ukraine war. We are being force fed lies. Hard to imagine what is happening that we do not even have an inkling.
The Federal Government has to be much smaller so it does not have an ability to go more totalitarian.
The New FBI building is larger than the Pentagon.
So there’s that.
I’m not necessarily worried about that, if it means they also close down some rented space elsewhere. It’s possible that a new building could be cheaper to operate, too. Let’s see how that plays out.
The Pentagon is just one of dozens of office buildings occupied by DOD in the Washington area. Again, look at the total, not just the one building.
Apparently the President is a figurehead and the entrenched branches that cannot be gotten rid of either by impeachment (Judiciary) or by not being elected over and over well into their 80’s or 90’s – (legislative) really determine the fate of the Citizens of this Country.
As designed well over a century ago.
This “Prohibited Access” was utilized to blackmail political opposition…
It is stated that the Director had access…but WHO gave the order to utilize and distribute this information…
A la Epstein…
I immediately thought the same thing. This “Prohibited Access” system probably dates well back into the Hoover era and may have been created to hide his legendary blackmail files.
Epstein, like Maxwell, was working for Israel/MOSSAD
“and”
Makes you wonder about the “room” of information that the top FBI officials told us that they found this week. Hard copies? Computer files? Server? Who had keys? Was that room connected to one of the secret tunnels under the city?
Laptops of . . . um . . . laps.
Not in control of FBI, CIA …. If you are not in control, you are out of control. And that’s a fact. Someone with statutory authority, please get control of the wheel again.
That picture with Comey, Clapper, Brennan and Warner has always fascinated/disgusted me.
The look that is exchanged between Comey and Warner is what you first notice.
Clapper acts as if he doesn’t know what is going on. (similar to when he “didn’t know” about the London activities)
Brennan, in typical I-Love-ME fashion, just can’t help himself when looking at Warner, probably thinking “what a good choice I made when I groomed Warner”.
Clapper was clueless. Warner was a bought and paid for useful idiot. Comey was a sleezebag. Brennan is straight up Anti-American Communist to the core.
Why only the past tense “was” for Clapper, Warner, and Comey? <smiles>
Comey is more anti-American than Brennan in my opinion. He is anti- American from the Lawyer/Judicial class.
. . . what a good choice I made when I groomed Warner”.
Fond memories no doubt.
And, of course we’ll see “statute of limitation” protecting these elite crooks from prosecution.
the phrase “he who governs least governs best” comes to mind.
Small governments are safer governments
So, there is at least two crimes here.
1) Nellie Ohr lied to Congress. Perjury, plain and simple. The DOJ/FBI should prosecute her, to the maximum extent of the law, UNLESS, she plea bargains something worth something, to indict someone up the food chain. That’s how cases against principles are made.
2) Everyone involved with creating and maintaining the “Prohibited” information classification. That’s a “RINO” crime and obstruction of justice. That’s an official system to evade legal reporting requirements. The FBI leadership placed information deemed politically or legally sensitive (a.k.a. incriminating!) evidence outside any official prevue, UP TO AND INCLUDING POTUS.
Serious crimes require serious prosecutions. If there’s a statute of limitations governing any of this, I’m not sure how it covers obstruction of justice. Delaying justice by obstructing it is a crime that should have NO limitations in prosecution.
How could there be a statute of limitations if it’s still being used?
We need to dust off some treason laws. Nothing will change unless people are prosecuted,instead of being allowed to retire with a full pension..
Lawfare?!
Don’t statute of limitations begin when the crime is discovered?
Yes, you are correct! I just found that answer a short while ago myself.
Grassley and his staff have known for a long time, but couldn’t release it. Of course, the people who would have prosecuted it would have been the Biden DOJ, so no point in that.
“The superior man seeks the truth” – Confucius. God bless you Sundance. You are a 1 man in a million and we, this country are the beneficiaries. You keep these rats awake at night, a voice in the wilderness; every word stamped with the truth.
Hear! Hear!
🎯
So why isn’t this secret system gone now? Trump knows about it right ?
how many files?? what do they entail are they merely dirty secrets for blackmail (you cheated on your wife files)?? are they truly important to keep secret at a restricted level (ongoing undercover stuff)?? or is it just criminal activities by the fbi?? My guess is a little of everything, and by little I mean tens of thousands of pages.
Some of that information’s most important aspect maybe how it was collected. I am excited to see how this develops
And why does this need to go through Congress the FBI and the and the AG report to the president why isn’t this cleared through him instead we might get the truth then. I have no confidence if this goes through Congress
These actions have always been used in Intel Orgs. It is not gone now, because it will not ever be gone. Which should explain to everyone, why it will take time to reveal the KRP that can be revealed, without endangering our country, and NOT reveal that which will put us all at risk.
No doubt this is where Comey put his “notes to self” he wrote, concurrent with his crossfire hurricane investigation.
His “insurance polucy” against being thrown under the bus or Arkanicided, while self serving they undoubtedly name higher ups that directed him, i.e. Obama, Biden, McConnell, Ryan and Pelosi.
not exactly what the patriot act was espousing at incipience. in fact exactly the opposite of information sharing
Because the Patriot Act as sold was a lie.
correct
Fancy that. /s
Timing: Rocks in the sand , so obvious, he was communicating to deep state
Exactly.
I wish I had the skills to show Pam, Kash, and Dan huddled together as a full garbage truck is dumped on them.
The FBI creates for the DOJ (via handwritten FD-302’s), exactly what the DOJ needs to
SUBSTANTIATE selective prosecutions.
🤔
Then…
FD-302’s are a feature, not a flaw.
Are all the Prohibited Access files in those bags of documents Kash found? Asking for a friend.
The layers of the onion are slowly being peeled. There is no turning back. The more the onion is peeled the closer the core. How is the peeling process going to be stopped?
More important, what or who can stop it?
If the peeling of the onion is stopped then it becomes a “What next”?
I can’t help but think of President Trumps plan the day President Trump came down the escalator.
it’s going waay too slow
Because there’s so much crying.
Cowboy up.
The Military really is the ONLY way……
Do you trust the military? I don’t. The Obama-Biden generals and admirals are very, very corrupt and think they are unanswerable to anyone, especially the President (Commander in Chief) and SECDEF.
“When drawing the sword, one does not grasp the handle until one has considered first how it can be sheathed.”
…- Yamagata Aritomo
I would love to see every federally convicted criminal defendant, in every case where the FBI was involved, challenge their conviction by claiming it is impossible to be assured they received all required Brady material. How can the government claim that they did?
Bondi should have the US Marshals take custody of the entire system
In the same breath, destroy the DC Courts.
Curated coterie of corrupt Communist Conspirators.
That would put them in *quite* the pickle, wouldn’t it?…
…- What bearing does last year’s SCOTUS ruling, nuking the ‘Chevron defference’, have on DOJ/FBI claiming Brady immunity based upon “Muh National Security”?…
I’m going to assume that Sen. Grassley waited to release this information until the actors and actions involved are all past the statute of limitations.
Time for the octogenarians to retire.
If they were acting outside the Constitution, wouldn’t that be considered Treason that has no limitations?
Any indication that Machell has shut down that cast system?
Not so deep was it? Just willful blindness.
Not very deep, very very Derp.
Joan Rivers knew.
I’m missing some context here. When did Grassley know this?
He’s getting like Biden – he can’t remember everything.
He likely just got authorization from Bondi/Patel to release it.
Democrats in Congress called January 6 a seditious insurrection. Democrats have always been known for casting shade on others for their own crimes. This, too, is one of those times. Sure, many will tell you that Comey was a Republican. Sorry, Comey (like his buddy Brennan) is a Communist. Both worked to destroy the USA from within (and I’m not sure it was without the help of one Pen and Phone Guy.
At any rate, since the Prohibited Access silo was directly under the control of the Director and the Deputy Director, I believe that all in those positions since 2001 (9/11 and the resulting “appointments” to “share” information) should be hauled in to SCIFs and questioned. No at the same time but one at a time while the others are kept in absolute solitary confinement until the last question is asked. After the inquiry, those who sought to undermine the country, particularly via shuttering information from the executive branch, should have charges immediately brought with trials to commence at the earliest possible moment. Refusal to answer questions would result in imprisonment until such time as either the entire problem is resolved or the party/parties agree to testify in full and honest testimony.
The answer to your question is no, that is, negative.
So, the current question is how does Trump wrest control from the IC? Make him a super user in these file systems? I think Elon Musk, the tech support guy, left too early, if he is honest, or right on time, if he is not.
He left behind some brilliant people.
By law, Musk could only work 130 days as a special employee while he still had his other side jobs.
Ah, yes. The secret secret files. Now, with AI. Download the app today.*
*Terms and conditions apply. No personal information required. The FBI already has it.
And you must accept ALL COOKIES to continue… 🙃
“To see what’s right and not do it is cowardice.”
~ Confucius
Wow, just wow! We need help from on high. The rot of dirty cops run deep.
Wait, no way! Shocked! The FBI is full of patriots and lovers of God and country! It’s only a few bad apples!
LOL. I’ve followed Sundance for 7-8 years so this is not shocking in the least. The FBI, DOJ, CIA, leftist media et al, cannot be despised enough.
THAT is an understatement!!!
You can bet, that now this “Prohibited Access” name is out there and talked about,
it will mysteriously change to a new name and these Democrats/RINOs will say – !Look we stopped doing that!
They always change the name when they realize they get bad press about other things. Its their (SOP) Standard Operating Procedure.
Its like outlawing MSG, and then still using it by calling it “yeast extract” or “natural flavor”.
agree completely.
so far we have secret, super secret, super duper secret, super, super duper secret….
it’s like a kid’s game until somebody yells “secret to infinity”, or perhaps someone already has.
one could level up seemingly forever as new layers are added out of necessity, so to speak.
there has to be a gatekeeper – continuity of secrets and all that.
not sure it’s the “officially” designated individual.
and to find THOSE files?
i suggest borrowing DOGE’s best autists and just say “crack it”.
The Supreme Court blackmail files.
I am looking at John Roberts.
Frick and Frack (Bongo and Kash) need Musk to document the entire federal government network landscape, including all the hidden files and directories. And use AI to interpolate what off-network data caches there are.
We can’t keep hearing Gomer Pyle surprise surprise surprise whenever a new batch of data is discovered.
Frack wouldn’t let Elon in to the FBI.
May be that is now going on.
“Frick and Frack” is a phrase often used to refer to a pair of inseparable or similar individuals, originating from a famous ice-skating comedy duo, Werner Groebli (Frick) and Hans Mauch (Frack), who performed in the 1930s and 1940s. [source: Groc]
Someone with graphics talent needs to resurrect these “skaters” in a meme for Kash and Bongino.
Wake me when the verdicts are overturned and they start jailing the former FBI brass, along with the lawyers and IT personnel who helped orchestrate it.
IT personnel created the system at the direction of someone who received instructions from someone more senior. Who are these people?
How many cases and their discovery process was impacted by this illegal practice? How many people were put in jail because exculpatory evidence was hidden? This is Seditious Conspiracy and a massive violation of constitutional rights. How many politicians of both parties were aware of a hidden system?
Exactly. That’s the weak link. I bet they were contractors, not government employees.
However, I would also note this approach hides information not only from congress and from the public, but also from the Executive branch itself. The DNI wouldn’t even know what information exists.
Now, imagine what the CIA and NSA systems are like.
There Is No Oversight: The NSA Withheld Documents From Intelligence Committee Heads
Mar 28th 2014
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140327/08140826708/there-is-no-oversight-nsa-withheld-documents-intelligence-committee-heads.shtml
There has never been effective oversight of the NSA’s bulk collections programs, or indeed, intelligence agencies in general. There’s been a lot of noise made about this vaunted oversight in defense of programs revealed by leaked documents, but this is nothing more than a talking point.
At The Big Picture, a clip of Sen. John D. Rockefeller (then Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence) discussing how oversight actually works has been posted. It’s from an interview given in 2007, about the time the FISA Amendments Act was being put together to replace the expiring Protect America Act. The amendments act, among other things, extended the length of warrantless surveillance and gave telecoms retroactive immunity for their participation in the NSA’s bulk collections.
Here’s Sen. John D. Rockefeller explaining why, even back in 2007, intelligence agency oversight was a joke.
DAVIS: Reports quote administration officials as saying this is going on and it’s being done in a way to avoid oversight of the Intelligence Committee. Is there any way—
ROCKEFELLER: They’ll go to any lengths to do that, as we’ve seen in the last two days [during hearings on FISA].
DAVIS: Is there anything you could do in your position as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee to find answers about this, if it is in fact going on?
ROCKEFELLER: Don’t you understand the way Intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m Chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say I want it, and they give it to me? They control it. All of it. ALL of it. ALL THE TIME. I only get – and my committee only gets – what they WANT to give me.
Put Warner, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Wray , and many more, in isolated cells without any further process. Let the J6 victims determine who, if any, might be interrogated this month.
Oubliettes pour tous!
Those are some nasty, cruel dungeons, saved for the worst deplorables.
Sounds like a plan!
Make it so, Number One.
My answer to Senator Rockefeller would have been the same as my answer to Senator Schumer saying; ” The IC has 6 ways from Sunday to get back at you” — And whose fault is that? You Senators are the ones responsible for the lack of oversight in making them adhere to the law and/or not passing laws to insure that doesn’t happen!!!
Alas, they prefer to be the squeaking mouse instead of being a responsible man. (reference to the- Are you a man or a mouse? saying.)
“The IC has 6 ways from Sunday to get back at you” – And whose fault is that?”
Politicians are mostly money, power, and sex seekers and will often sell their souls for that.
So, the answer to your “whose fault is that” question is “their behavior” which makes them vulnerable to blackmail which IS WHY there is the “the lack of oversight in making them [intel agencies] adhere to the law and/or not passing laws to insure that doesn’t happen.
Since they are afraid of the “6 ways from Sunday” which includes exposing their behavior or JUST MAKING THINGS UP as they have with Trump, they DON’T force those issues as they should.
THAT’S how BLACKMAIL works!
Tucker Carlson on Joe Rogan – Pols are terrified of the intel agencies
Blackmail System Used to Corrupt and Control Politicians (10:20)
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
5 Feb 2024
That tells it well.
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…the same framework is being applied to the DHS surveillance network, where “restricted access” and “prohibited access” (invisible) are being applied to PEOPLE.
Our government, via Palantir, is currently building the domestic identity surveillance system, where every identity will be stored. However, within the storage, and by extension the parameters of the surveillance search results, there will be people who are defined by placing their identity in the “prohibited access” category.
Okay, here comes the unpopular questioner who would love to draft some proposed legislation and/or come up with, lobby, other measures to prevent whatever this is alluding to, and getting no evidence, or even a hypothetical example that would make that possible.
So. Who would these special people be, and to whom regarding what would they be “invisible”? Will the IRS not be able to access these privileged people’s tax records? Will the SEC not be able to access these elite individuals’ SEC filings? Are we talking about the AI combinator and/or its operators somewhere else (where?) not being able to access… what? No criminal investigations of them? Would this be affecting state licensing, court, property, and other electronic records — or will the federal system with state governments be overthrown.
Are we talking about some sneaky little peon coder working for Palantir wiping out or blocking his own records? (Are these people going to be worse than garden variety bureaucrats? Can systems be put into place to prevent this?)
This just makes no sense to me.
And I would appreciate not being slammed again because I’m asking questions.
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Eternal Vigilance
No slam here!
I think you ask many a good question that we don’t know the answer to.
dogged, practical, and solution oriented questions, OC.
am by no means the best versed person here on this,
but my working understanding is as follows:
any info on bill gates and other protected persons will be inaccessible by all of the agencies you cite, because
a) they are on the “correct” (their) ideological side
b) they have lots of money and/or influence to pay blackmail on the data that is hidden from all but a few corruptocrats,
and/or they can influence the outcome of selected issues in “”their” favor; i.e. they are “useful”.
you, however, report your “important” neighbor to the police for stealing your newspaper.
he is on the invisible list, you are not.
you are charged with harassment, he is allowed to keep stealing your newspaper with impunity
because there is no deleterious info on him, while you have a history of felony jaywalking. 😉
that is the “tier” or “caste” system as i comprehend it.
i may need more time on this essay question….😂
“you, however, report your “important” neighbor to the police for stealing your newspaper.
he is on the invisible list, you are not.
you are charged with harassment, he is allowed to keep stealing your newspaper with impunity
because there is no deleterious info on him, while you have a history of felony jaywalking. 😉
that is the “tier” or “caste” system as i comprehend it.”
…- In an *Armour-Piercing* nutshell, zoom…
🎯
“So. Who would these special people be…”
…- The ‘Elect’/’Chosen’.
(See, eg: https://luxurylaunches.com/celebrities/lauren-sanchez-sails-in-koru-to-accept-climate-award-05272025.php)
“…and to whom regarding what would they be “invisible”?”
…- To the *Entire* ‘Panopticon’, in *All* its various aspects, facets and manifestations.
“Will the IRS not be able to access these privileged people’s tax records? Will the SEC not be able to access these elite individuals’ SEC filings? Are we talking about the AI combinator and/or its operators somewhere else (where?) not being able to access… what? No criminal investigations of them? Would this be affecting state licensing, court, property, and other electronic records — or will the federal system with state governments be overthrown.”
…- Yes.
“Are we talking about some sneaky little peon coder working for Palantir wiping out or blocking his own records? (Are these people going to be worse than garden variety bureaucrats? Can systems be put into place to prevent this?)”
…- Also, *Potentially*, Yes.
Heard about the recent AI which tried to blackmail its ‘operator’?
Great questions from you.
Please tell me the President reads CTH. Or that someone on his immediate staff does. The FBI is way off its rails. So sensitive that the President can’t see it? So sensitive that it supersedes the Brady Rule? Mr. President, time for that Special Prosecutor.
The President reads CTH.
RealID to enter a government building means RealID can keep you out.
Trump needs to demand ALL ACCESS to ALL executive branch departments and threaten treason to any individual or group hiding a byte of info. Then build an information DOGE equivalent to pour through it and send suspected illegal actions to the top authorities.
How would that work? At the end of many rifles?
Your terms are acceptable.
Is that like a sternly worded letter? How would he know if anyone is hiding anything if it is hidden?
Is there technology that can determine what data storage is available and how much of it is actually being seen?
I’m not trying to be snarky. I am trying to understand someone locates hidden data if they don’t know where the data is hidden?
There are known knowns and unknown knowns…( something like that)~ Donald Rumsfeld
Kelly-Anne called them
“alternative facts”.
The answer to your question is called reflection.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflective_programming.
Sounds like it is in Sentinel (software) or on the 7th floor (physically). I’m sure the data can be located. Maybe Big B#$%s needs to show us that his moniker is apt.
Shadows on the wall in Plato’s cave.
Or else what? A sternly worded letter? There will be stonewalling and no cooperation and that happensonall sides of the border too. We aren’t countries, we are serfdoms with segmented classes.
Trump appointed Patel the FBI DIRECTOR for goodness sake. Surely Patel has access.
“Trump needs to demand ALL ACCESS to ALL executive branch departments and threaten treason to any individual or group hiding a byte of info. Then build an information DOGE equivalent to pour through it and send suspected illegal actions to the top authorities.”
Since the DC swamp seems to be immune to prosecutions and convictions, maybe the best recourse is to try these criminals in the court of public opinion.
Some time ago Sundance explained a procedure Trump could use to make previously classified information public using the presidential daily briefing as a vehicle to declassify material and present it to the press corp. Well, not long ago Susan Rice was chirping about Trump being derelict in his duties by not attending the presidential daily briefing. So, how about giving her what she demands? Put all these “Prohibited Access” files into the briefing and then, immediately after declassifying them, distribute copies of the documents to the press and let them publish the contents. Sunshine. The best disinfectant.
I just read where an illegal {unlawful} threatened POTUS and now he and his whole family are being deported…
Now do Comey.
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Here’s what, I guess, a lot of people seem to be missing,
POTUS needs no permission to execute the law {Constitution}.
Therefore, no judge or Court can deny any official Act of The United States {POTUS} that the judiciary did not have any Constitutional authority to permit.
POTUS officially declared a State of Emergency.
POTUS officially invoked the Alien Enemies Act.
Any other similar acts of lawlessness fall under the Patriot Act.
POTUS needs to stop pussyfooting around and start putting his foot down.
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