There are many special interest groups within the House republican party that made the framework of the Big Beautiful tax cut and spending bill a lot less beautiful with smaller spending cuts. The Big Beautiful Bill is now in the Senate, and Senator Rand Paul announced today he is a big “No” on the bill itself.
Appearing on Fox News to announce his opposition, Rand Paul also answered questions about the ongoing government weaponization review. WATCH:
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…follow McStains footprints…….
Into Hell.
His whole career was a farce.
Career?
“Crime spree”. Would be more apt.
Fifth from the bottom at Annapolis but still got to fly at Pensacola.
He got to “fly” (barely) because his name was: “McCain” … so no surprise.
Two of my USN flight instructors also had “McNasty” as a Student Naval Aviator … and according to both gents, if it were not for his name and “pedigree” — he would NEVER have received his Naval Aviation Wings of Gold … the “fix” was in … he was guaranteed completion.
Believe it.
That being the case, Juan McStain did not start the Forrestal fire.
Though I loathe, which isn’t nearly an adequate word for McStains, Rand Paul follows the constructs of the Constitution and fiscally responsible voting.
Though voting “No” appears to be a poke in the eye of Trump, Trump and the House are wrong for passing a bill the keeps millions in Green New Steal $$$, and a 4 Trillion $$$ Debt Ceiling.
Though I hate saying it, Trump is wrong on this one. There’s no going back and fixing.
You have to raise the debt ceiling.
How much are they paying you as it’s fairly obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about? FYI, tax cuts = increased revenue to the government, raising the debt ceiling avoids going into default and finally what green deal or was that a line without any concrete information that you gobbled up? Geez, pull your head out unless your willing to take a chance on the Dems (and RINOs/deep state) given their cheating ways in the upcoming midterms.
I am well aware that tax cuts increase revenues. Been doing this probably longer than you’ve been breathing. If you don’t know O’Biden’s Green New Steal masquerading as the “Inflation Reduction Act”. Maybe you didn’t hear O’Biden brag about it on the sNews.
You propose that spending the money, and increasing the dept ceiling was the only option. False dilemma, red herring. Take your pick.
Well let’s see they all have had at least thirty years or more to cut spending and make lasting cut backs. Yet here we are once again trivial back and forth and nothing getting done because the same republicans once again Feign fiscal responsibility. Just in time to throw a monkey wrench in things. And poof just like that nothing gets done…. And the. The Dems take over and hihoe silver away, and vote yes on almost anything.. pretty tired charade…
Yes, this game is getting old and we are growing tired of it.
I don’t trust Big Beautiful names given to pending legislation!
The Patriot Act had nothing to do with patriotism and the Affordable Care Act was anything but affordable! This bill is admittedly big, but how beautiful it is remains to be seen.
But it’s not enough for Rand and his Senate pals to object to the hamburger that came to them out of the House meat grinder…they must offer up an alternative…or all the rhetoric against Triple B is little more than Macbeth’s tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, but signifying nothing!
What do you and Thune have for us, Rand? Let me see the goods!
big beautiful spending bill in name only if it keeps funding green deal lie.
big beautiful farce?
And you’ve nailed the crux of the issue here. If Republicans want their base to believe they’re engaging in anything other than the knee-jerk obstruction of their party’s leader (something Democrats never seem to have to worry about), then they have to do more than just say no, they need to make concrete suggestions for improving the bill.
Rand, as others have observed, is famous for saying no, and finding the “silly” in federal spending. But he’s awfully short on coming up with concrete ideas about exactly what else he would cut. If he made reasonable proposals for more cuts, he’d have more leverage when he takes his standard ‘no’ position.
But as Stephen Miller has said, this is a budget reconciliation bill, dealing with mandatory spending. It can’t address the discretionary spending excesses that Rand Paul usually hand wrings over. ALL spending is out of control but the BBB is a
politically palatable first step in trying to reverse the trend. And as usual, the naysayers never consider the dynamic effect of lower taxes, nor in this case the slashing of regulation and the massive new investment that Trump is leveraging through tarriffs and negotiations to spur economic growth, which is the primary factor in reducing the deficit.
J
They pretend not to know things
Anyone who reads my post should read this comment. Well said, J!
Being there too long now, he thinks he is important!
Doing important things isn’t in his vocabulary. He would rather be a fly in the ointment.
Another ‘neighbor’ of his needs to administer a little more We the People education!
That’s always been his M. O., only now it’s more obvious that it’s always been a ruse
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1926684412072087594
Ron Johnson. While I agree the bill could be better, someone should remind Senator Johnson, the Congress created the bill.
What’s wrong w/Kentucky?
ChynaMitch ✔
Massie✔
Randy✔
All suck and ChynaMitch is a barely walking cadaver…..
Alot of that going around in Washington these days. Being a scoundrel seems to run out of health benefits somewhere around 80, then there is rapid decline.
Cut Civil Service without exceptions
What is the percentage of citizens employed by local, state and federal governments
Civil Service is a jobs program
Bet you know a family that has more than one member employed by government
The unelected bureaucrats they grant and deny
i would say their job security is a large voting block
Ron Johnson was spouting off to Jake Tapper as well. The Article is on Gateway Pundit. He’s now realizing we need to cut spending. He’s got alot of nerve, with no mention of a solution.
That’s because Ron Johnson doesn’t want a solution. He wants to continue growing the government for the purpose of lining his pockets. He is pretending to be in favor of cutting spending.
Ron Johnson and Rand Paul are two of a kind-lying fools.
Gateway Pundit always jumps the gun.
Trump continues to smoke out the traitors, he’s making it easier for who ever takes the reins in ’28. Most of the RINOs will be gone one way or another, and the Dems will no longer have MSM to carry their water because they are imploding as we speak.
Twerps like Rand, Massie, and Van Hollow will be primaried, along with Chip Roy, and the pirate.
Frick (Patel) and Frack (Bongino) will never be able to show their lying faces again in DC or anywhere else. Blondie may get the gig on FOX she covets, who knows, who cares? Sick of them all.
If Donald Trump would be as outspoken on the evils of the Covid shots as Ron Johnson, I’d be a whole lot happier. It is Senator Johnson and not President Trump who has given the platform to men like James Thorp, Pierre Cory, Peter McCullough and others. It isn’t off topic to defend someone who has stood in the gap on such an important issue as the Covid tyranny and then gets blasted on this site because he doesn’t genuflect to President Trump on his so-called Big, Beautiful Bill.
Trump was the first president to suspend the constitution over a flu virus.
Our founding fathers would have never allowed something like 2 weeks to slow the spread.
The democrats are such a repulsive, evil, corrupt bunch of anti American clowns that Trump gets a pass on suspending our rights during covid.
Yes, let us have hope all this you say comes true
The lobbyist don’t care who you “primary” and they like it when you focus on their puppets.
Must be something either in the drinking water or the ‘shine ain’t up to normal. Both Masssie and Paul don’t have all the wheels on the rails these days.
Stephen Miller
@StephenM
3h
I’ve seen a few claims making the rounds on the Big Beautiful Bill that require correction.
The first is that it doesn’t “codify the DOGE cuts.” A reconciliation bill, which is a budget bill that passes with 50 votes, is limited by senate rules to “mandatory” spending only — eg Medicaid and Food Stamps.
The senate rules prevent it from cutting “discretionary” spending — eg the Department of Education or federal grants. The DOGE cuts are overwhelmingly discretionary, not mandatory. The bill saves more than 1.6 TRILLION in mandatory spending, including the largest-ever welfare reform. A remarkable achievement.
I’ve also seen claims the bill increases the deficit. This lie is based on a CBO accounting gimmick. Income tax rates from the 2017 tax cut are set to expire in September. They were always planned to be permanent. CBO says maintaining *current* rates adds to the deficit, but by definition leaving these income tax rates unchanged cannot add one penny to the deficit.
The bill’s spending cuts REDUCE the deficit against the current law baseline, which is the only correct baseline to use.
Another fantastically false claim is that the bill spends trillions of dollars. This is just completely invented out of whole cloth.
This is not a ten year budget bill—it doesn’t “fund” almost any operations of government, which are funded in the annual budget bills (which this is not).
In other words, if this bill passed, but the annual budget bill did not, there would be no government funding.
Under the math that critics are using, if we passed a one paragraph reconciliation bill that cut simply 50 billion in food stamp spending, they would say the bill “added” trillions in spending and debt because they are counting ALL the projected federal spending that exists entirely outside the scope of this legislation, which is of course preposterous.
The only funding in the bill is for the President’s border and defense priorities, while enacting a net spending cut of over 1.6 TRILLION dollars.
The bill has two fiscal components: a massive tax cut and a massive spending cut.
May 25, 2025 · 7:02 PM UTC
So…
Is Rand against the massive tax cut, the massive spending cut…
Or both?
Bessent has done his best to try tell everyone about CBO accounting practice but Congress opposition is clearly against Trump. All they wanna do is inflict damage slow down the momentum
Rand said he’d be willing to support the spending and tax cuts….
BUT
Something that prolly ain’t gonna happen, has to happen, or he’s a NO.
I’d like to see the Honorable Senator Rand go on Fox and debate Stephen Miller on the CBO “estimates”.
Like, tomorrow.!!
He won’t, of course.
Beginning to get the impression some in Congress don’t want to hear the truth.
If he were honorable he would have remained a physician. No one goes into politics for the right reasons, he should have known especially since he saw what his father was up against.
Rand knows if the 2017 tax cuts expire, taxes could go up 60%+.
The enemy will blame President Trump and MAGA ahead of the midterms.
Then again, Senator Rand need not worry about all that. His term ends in 2029.
Great Depression starts at the Labor Day 2030 stock market peak grand finale HIGH… then markets collapse into Labor Day 2034… ticking timebomb in T-273 weeks away
THANK YOU! It’s soooooo confusing. Finally a clear, understandable answer to the relentless gaslighting.
So where does that leave us?
They have no chance but to pass it.
At any rate, when the cost of paying the Interest on the Debt (at 25% now) gets too high it will squeeze out everything else. Problem solved!
Paul doesn’t give a lick about what we or or his constituents think of him. He knows if he keeps towing the line, he’ll be a senator as long as he chooses.
Maybe not a Senator, but he’ll be rolling in lobbyist money, that’s all he wants.
I wonder if his Dad is really a rat too.
I couldn’t know if his Dad is a rat too, but I doubt either of them lives by the principles they preach. Blowhards like the son rarely do. Follow the money and their investments and there you will find their actual principles.
See my reply to Mongoose above…
Re “I wonder if his Dad is really a rat too.”
Ron was always good at convincing people he was a strict Constitutionalist; but, that was a lie. Despite his accurate claims that he never voted for a single unconstitutional bill, he got plenty of unconstitutional pork passed for his constituents by adding them in the form of earmarks to bills that he knew would easily pass WITHOUT his vote. That, in my opinion makes him a hypocritical rat.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/the-house-passed-the-tax-and-spending-bill-heres-whats-in-it-052225.html.
Here’s what’s in the bill.
I am looking for a more detailed list.
From your link, Jeanine
“The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the legislation could add approximately $3.8 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. All House Democrats opposed the measure, citing concerns over fiscal responsibility and social equity. Two Republicans voted against it, saying it didn’t cut enough government spending.”
Stephen Miller begs to differ…
“I’ve also seen claims the bill increases the deficit. This lie is based on a CBO accounting gimmick. Income tax rates from the 2017 tax cut are set to expire in September. They were always planned to be permanent.
CBO says maintaining *current* rates adds to the deficit, but by definition leaving these income tax rates unchanged cannot add one penny to the deficit.”
If the Big Beautiful Bill passes, the 2017 tax cut rates “by definition” cannot add one penny to the deficit.
🤔
Subtract $3.8 trillion to the national debt over the next decade from the discussion…
And I’m not sure what Rand is bitchin about!
Maybe Rand is beeyotchin about the fact that, every day now, fewer people care even a whit what he says.
Well, it would help a great deal, if the “Honorable” Senator from Kentucky, knew what the hell he was talking about.
And all his kabuki theater over Fauci that never resulted in anything. Just like Roosterhead Gowdy and the Benghazi theater.
You might want to look for a more truthful one, too. The Congressional Budget Office has never, at least for many many years, been a reliable source for factual unbiased information.
Their kinda like some of the Presidential election polsters.
If they hadn’t had Harris up (by default) 25 points…
They have been fine
“I am looking for a more detailed list.”
Go to congress.gov
Search there for hr1
The “THREE R-PAID-GANG” ………. RAND, RON & ROY
Follow their $$$$$
None are MAGA
All are losers.
Well, of course. It’s Rand Paul, hypocrite extraordinaire, gaslighting us in that realllly annoying wimpy nasally voice of his.
It’s also a day ending in Y.
The ophthalmologist turned a blind eye to the theft of America.
That he did.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2025/05/22/big-beautiful-bill-full-text-pdf-trump-tax-bill/83799142007/
The PDF of the bill is in this article.
Too Big.
No DOGE $165 Billion cuts in waste, fraud, and abuse.
It’s always next time, next bill, next session.
WE ARE RUNNING A $2 TRILLION YEARLY DEFICIT!!!
P.S. Trump backs off EU pressure. Typical.
@bennyjohnson
🚨President Trump has delayed the 50% tariff on the EU from June 1st to July 9th after a call with the President of the European Commission.
Stephen Miller
@StephenM
3h
I’ve seen a few claims making the rounds on the Big Beautiful Bill that require correction.
The first is that it doesn’t “codify the DOGE cuts.” A reconciliation bill, which is a budget bill that passes with 50 votes, is limited by senate rules to “mandatory” spending only — eg Medicaid and Food Stamps.
The senate rules prevent it from cutting “discretionary” spending — eg the Department of Education or federal grants. The DOGE cuts are overwhelmingly discretionary, not mandatory. The bill saves more than 1.6 TRILLION in mandatory spending, including the largest-ever welfare reform. A remarkable achievement.
I’ve also seen claims the bill increases the deficit. This lie is based on a CBO accounting gimmick. Income tax rates from the 2017 tax cut are set to expire in September. They were always planned to be permanent. CBO says maintaining *current* rates adds to the deficit, but by definition leaving these income tax rates unchanged cannot add one penny to the deficit.
The bill’s spending cuts REDUCE the deficit against the current law baseline, which is the only correct baseline to use.
Another fantastically false claim is that the bill spends trillions of dollars. This is just completely invented out of whole cloth.
This is not a ten year budget bill—it doesn’t “fund” almost any operations of government, which are funded in the annual budget bills (which this is not).
In other words, if this bill passed, but the annual budget bill did not, there would be no government funding.
Under the math that critics are using, if we passed a one paragraph reconciliation bill that cut simply 50 billion in food stamp spending, they would say the bill “added” trillions in spending and debt because they are counting ALL the projected federal spending that exists entirely outside the scope of this legislation, which is of course preposterous.
The only funding in the bill is for the President’s border and defense priorities, while enacting a net spending cut of over 1.6 TRILLION dollars.
The bill has two fiscal components: a massive tax cut and a massive spending cut.
May 25, 2025 · 7:02 PM UTC
Uh – did you read what Stephen Miller said about DOGE in this bill?
It’s been posted repeatedly on this article thread.
Why is there a clause in The Big Beautiful Bill stating that no state or political group can enforce ANY laws or regulations on AI for a 10-year period.”
Because if the democrats installed a social credit/surveillance Ai control grid, conservatives would be up in arms.
Rand may be known for blowing whichever way the wind blows, but he’s right, in this instance.
I remember a time when Conservatives were more interested in economics, less about fabricated culture wars rooted in racism and bigotry.
You don’t have to tell me you are a Democrat.
Bourbon swigging. Southern gentleman my a$$.
Dandy Randy -Prince of the Lilliputians.
He has voted against almost every sensible bill put forth by Trump’s team.
Turncoat rino skunk.
The non surprise of the week.
Who needs democrats when you have RINOs?
Undocumented democrats…
Round Numbers. $5 Trillion in Annual Revenue, $7 Trillion in Spending.
Is there an extra $2 Trillion of Savings inside the USA or throughout the World?
$2 Trillion in Deficit/Borrowing is 7% of Total US GDP. For all of the next 4 years and projected for 10 years.
Have most Americans lost their minds? Your only option is to force the Federal Reserve to Print Money from Nothing to buy up US Government Debt. Pay the Debt in Higher Prices from a worthless currency.
For all that is good that Trump has been doing, continuing the Cancer of burning money in the Government Incinerator will be his Legacy.
Please people. Read Stephen Millers explanation of this RECONCILIATION bill (hint – not a budget bill) at https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926715409807397204%7Ctwgr%5E3298ab7f7988f11c78e464c396ee1c4391b75139%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2Fblog%2F2025%2F05%2F25%2Fsenator-rand-paul-announces-he-is-a-no-vote-on-house-version-of-big-beautiful-tax-cut-bill%2F
Or we can just keep spouting ignorance…
Wtf is wrong with Kentucky and Wisconsin?
There are many things wrong with Wisconsin but Ron Johnson isn’t one of them.
The best way to get a Fox News and MSLSD soundbite is to rush out and oppose Trump. Rand Paul is feeling pretty stupid these days – this is how you get out there and try to sound smart
“– this is how you get out there and try to sound smart”
With “try” being the operative word here.
this is what they look like when forced out of the shadows. when their influence is based upon degrees of separation the hand is hidden. when the deep state is forced to the surface we see that their hands are held to the fire. why is another question. i don’t know that we ever truly know the intentions because in most cases people will lie until their last breath.
Money.
Rule Number one: Follow the Money!
You can force them all out in to the open. Then replace them with new senators.
Then the lobbyist will simply buy the new senators.
Changing the window dressing will never address the problems.
“You can force them all out in to the open. Then replace them with new senators.”
And just where will you find these incorruptible senators? Any volunteers?
Good people do good things, all on their own.
Bad people do bad things, all on their own.
The challenge here is to find a good way to incentivize bad people to do good things.
Get rid of all the welfare and charity programs. They are all unconstitutional. It is NOT taxpayers responsibility to pay for all of these programs.
The bill doesn’t deal with the financial crisis
“A reconciliation bill, which is a budget bill that passes with 50 votes, is limited by senate rules to “mandatory” spending only — eg Medicaid and Food Stamps.”
…
“This is not a ten year budget bill—it doesn’t “fund” almost any operations of government, which are funded in the annual budget bills (which this is not).”
It does
Theater
Kabuki, we all know the ending.
Nuke DC
OK Leader Thune. Time for you to prove yourself. You’d better be doing some serious arm-twisting and skull thumping if you don’t want to see a disaster in November ’26.
There are a lot of ignorant libertarians and Republicans who don’t understand that the left-wing CBO counts the tax cuts as the $4 trillion expense. Tax cuts are an investment and grow the economy. We’ve already had the Trump’s tax cuts for ten years and they grew revenue from $3 trillion to $5 trillion in a few years. The only way to cut $2 trillion immediately and avoid a debt ceiling hike would be to slash Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and the military. Not happening. Paul and Massie are Democrat plants.
Massie and Paul seem to take turns running to the cameras with “I’m a NO”.
“There are a lot of ignorant libertarians and Republicans who don’t understand that the left-wing CBO counts the tax cuts as the $4 trillion expense.”
It’s a problem as old as the liberal mindset. Where they simply can not grasp the concept of a decrease in spending, a decrease in income is equally as foreign to them. Take away any of their income and they see it as an increase in expense. What is odd is that they feign a problem with the increase in debt, as that’s never been a problem as long as some semblance of money is coming in.
deficit/debt going from 37T to 41T…….. that is an INCREASE towards fiscal insolvency.
Sorry, no way to cut it…..Trump doesn’t have stomach to correct this.
Taxes on tips; taxes on overtime……sure…great …. special interest groups thatc I AM NOT A PART OF!
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Again, please read Stephen Miller’s summary of this RECONCILIATION BILL at https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926715409807397204%7Ctwgr%5E3298ab7f7988f11c78e464c396ee1c4391b75139%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2Fblog%2F2025%2F05%2F25%2Fsenator-rand-paul-announces-he-is-a-no-vote-on-house-version-of-big-beautiful-tax-cut-bill%2F
And quite doing MSM-type math…
7 trillion a year is totally unacceptable…
DOGE cut $500 billion, tariffs bring in $300 billion and this bill will cut $200 billion, total $1 trillion already cut. More will be done.
sure …… and i thought the Obama unicorn sycophants were bad
You have to cut Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and the military to achieve $2 trillion in immediate savings. Nobody is cutting entitlements. Time to live in the real world. Growth will bring down the debt to GDP.
It is hysterical that the poorest, least educated people in America are so firm on giving the richest people in this country tax breaks. They already have so many tax write-offs, they don’t pay taxes at the same rate as middle class Americans.
Rand Paul is willing to raise the debt ceiling as long as it is pulled from the reconciliation bill and negotiated with Schumer and the Dems. Does Paul not understand that Dems will require MORE spending in exchange for a debt ceiling increase? I believe Paul and Massie are Dem / globalist plants.
Bills like this that are close mean people on the edge can get things they want in return for their vote. Massie and Paul by being Mr. No never get anything because nobody wastes time with the unmovable.
Those 2 should be trying to get some changes they want with these close bills.
Reality check Rand- No BBB the Republican elected officials get wiped out and lose power in 2026. 2018 midterms is the template. Your moral high ground on spending will land all Americans 6 feet under the tyrannical bus that will drive over what is left of this Constitutional Republic. I do not but what you are selling as your intellect is better than this calculation. I fear you have been compromised like so many others. No power means impeachment and conviction and most likely jail of not only Trump but many on his team and in his orbit. No power means the entire MAGA agenda hits an immovable wall and the avalanche of evil doers will commence to end this country as we know it.
One must play the game where they enter and make the hard choices to advance on the board.
When I watched you bold face lie to Americans from the Senate floor about how no president before Trump used Tariff power like he was – I knew they got to you.
God help us all.
Not a fan of Rand Paul but he has a point on this excrement sandwich of a bill. We are the brokest nation in history and the Congress critters keep spending like the proverbial drunk sailors. And keeping the green scam funded is unacceptable.
It is a great bill. Increases spending for military and mass deportations. Green Scam has been mostly removed. $1.6 trillion in spending cuts. Work requirements for Medicaid and kicks illegals off entitlements. Left-wing CBO counts tax cuts as an expense and unfortunately a lot of people fall for their accounting gimmick.
Rand Paul is wrong. I don’t know if it’s intentional or just knee-jerk ignorance but there are articles out there that his staff could have read for him and warned him away from this pool of stupid he and Ron Johnson are wading in. Please see Stephen Miller’s summary at:
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926715409807397204%7Ctwgr%5E3298ab7f7988f11c78e464c396ee1c4391b75139%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2Fblog%2F2025%2F05%2F25%2Fsenator-rand-paul-announces-he-is-a-no-vote-on-house-version-of-big-beautiful-tax-cut-bill%2F
None of these old men at the zoo understand how much the culture has changed and how horribly out of step they really are. No one thinks any of this legislation is perfect or even particularly good. But it is better than nothing and signals intent. These grifters are also signaling intent. So noted.
Libertarians are a menace to clear thinking.
Dandy Randy who’s your daddy?
“Doctor No”.
These posturing Congrsssmen & Senators are obnoxious… Here is the Greatest President since Lincoln, doing his best to save this country, and they can’t just shut up and give him their suppport.
Of course the bill is not perfect. We are in a shitmess!!
When you come to fully understand the Ai stuff in this bill you’ll probably feel much different.
I really don’t see the connection between Lincoln and the CCP style Ai control grid that’s being enabled.
Not worried about the spending level of the bill. Eventually, Trump will defeat the District Courts and that will allow him to cut domestic spending by reducing staffing. No staff = no one to spend the money.
Also, Trump can spend less than the obligated amounts. Probably he would win in the courts on that as well.
Also, the Big Beautiful Bill only covers required spending. Discretionary spending bills still have to be passed separately and ‘The Prick” (new name for Rand) can cut to his heart’s content on those programs.
Lot’s of people commenting about getting rid of senators opposing the bill.
Y’all know the same lobbyist will just buy off the new senators……right?
No wonder we never get anywhere, so few grasp the real problem.
Senator Bland Drawl is a mosquito on the skin of life.
AND HE RELISHES THIS ROLE!!
I’m a bit shocked that the initial responses towards these Senators who are challenging the lack of spending cuts is Negative.
This reconciliation bill is increasing the deficit. I’m sick and tired of every one of these bills NEVER cutting spending and kicking the can down the road for another Congress to fix the problem. We elected THIS Congress to fix the problem.
We’re talking trillions upon trillions of debt. We’re paying 1.5 trillion per year of interest on our debt.
The group on this site are supposed to be the informed and enlightened, but when the fiscal house of cards collapses fingers will point at this Congress and President Trump for not taking serious measures to reduce this deficit by cutting spending. We can’t grow our way out of this debt. God help us.
If they simply vote for the bill (2017 tax cuts made permanent) the projected “debt” they cite as their objection (dutifully provided by the CBO-with an assist from the markets)
Would vanish
Yes, we will grow out of the deficits.
How many in congress will oppose the bill because they have genuine reason to believe that it’s bad for the people?
How many will oppose the bill simply because Trump is affiliated with it?