CTH suspected we were going to see this…. and it might just work. President Trump has announced via Truth Social that he will sign an executive order to structurally create a “most favored nation” (MFN) policy toward USA drug manufacturing prices.
Americans must receive a matching price to the lowest cost sold.
President Trump – “For many years the World has wondered why Prescription Drugs and Pharmaceuticals in the United States of America were SO MUCH HIGHER IN PRICE THAN THEY WERE IN ANY OTHER NATION, SOMETIMES BEING FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SAME DRUG, MANUFACTURED IN THE EXACT SAME LABORATORY OR PLANT, BY THE SAME COMPANY??? It was always difficult to explain and very embarrassing because, in fact, there was no correct or rightful answer.
The Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the “suckers” of America, ALONE. Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years.
Therefore, I am pleased to announce that Tomorrow morning, in the White House, at 9:00 A.M., I will be signing one of the most consequential Executive Orders in our Country’s history. Prescription Drug and Pharmaceutical prices will be REDUCED, almost immediately, by 30% to 80%. They will rise throughout the World in order to equalize and, for the first time in many years, bring FAIRNESS TO AMERICA!
I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World. Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” [source]
USA pharmaceutical industry.
That's what it is about. https://t.co/gB6NDs4jqW
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) May 6, 2025
There is also some background for this {SEE HERE}.
President Trump is on the cusp of announcing a big change in tariffs against foreign pharmaceutical companies in an effort to get the manufacturing of medicines brought back to the USA. Details are soon to surface.
In a proactive move, the European Federation of Pharmaceutical Industries and Associations (EFPIA), went to the European Commission (EC) in April to hold talks with Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, calling for radical change and holding the threat of an exodus to the U.S. over the EC president’s head.
PRESS RELEASE – Today, CEOs of the research-based pharmaceutical industry issued a stark warning to President von der Leyen that unless Europe delivers rapid, radical policy change then pharmaceutical research, development and manufacturing is increasingly likely to be directed towards the US.
A survey of EFPIA member companies conducted last week – to which 18 international large and medium-sized innovative companies responded – identified as much as 85% of capital expenditure investments (approximately €50.6 billion) and as much as 50% of R&D expenditure (approximately €52.6 billion) potentially at risk. This is out of a current combined total of €164.8 billion in investments planned for the period 2025-2029 in the EU-27 territory. Over the next three months, companies that responded estimate that a total of €16.5 billion i.e. 10% of the total investment plans is at risk.
The US now leads Europe on every investor metric from availability of capital, intellectual property, speed of approval to rewards for innovation. In addition to the uncertainty created by the threat of tariffs, there is little incentive to invest in the EU and significant drivers to relocate to the US. (read more)
MAGA Fabulous!!
👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Take a yuge toke on that pipe Ursala!!!
This could be really big. Onshore jobs. Lower insurance costs. Lower Medicare costs.
It was never fair we paid more for the same product than the rest of the world, unless you see things through the eyes of the globalist left who think Americans are the rich guy at the table who should pick up the tab.
As Sundance has pointed out, in his MAGAnomics articles, its not just pharmds; the multinationals manipulate supply and demand in order to insure WE pay the highest price for everything from lemons to widgets.
Can’t wait to see democrats arguing against lower costs for prescription drugs. Something they’ve been running on since before I was born.
You know Mrs. Sunshine formally Miss Sunshine you are really sharp!
I don’t think nost Democrats will be arguing against this at all.
I think they are just wondering why Republicans are for it all of sudden, when they’ve been rallying hard against it for so many years.
The democrats will try to prevent it, and eventually lie and try to take credit for it.
The democrats know why the Republicans are for it, because the Republicans represent the middle class now.
The democrats are the rich man’s party now.
I don’t see how they can. My heart breaks for every single person made homeless, and grieving because they bankrupted themselves getting their child, or spouse the drugs they needed to try and survive.
Imagine that, just step into those shoes. A person you love dies because the drugs that are $10 in Commie UK are $2000 here.
God bless Trump!
How many people took the covid jab knowing how dangerous it was in order to keep their job because their insurance was needed to pay for a wildly inflated prescription price that was making their own or a loved one’s life bearable.
There is a special place in Hell for anyone that put good people in that predicament.
Amen!
I took the COVID vaccine to keep my job.
I refused.
I didn’t have the jab or a job. 😉
I am proud to say that the net result is that I created my own job by creating my own business at the tender age of 55. God bless America!
If they had looked “outside the box” and done their homework, they would have learned they could get thatmedication by ordering it from an International pharmacy.
Like anything, you have to do your homework, but the $3000/mo.drug (retail cost in U.S.) I referenced in a comment just above, there is a comparable drug from India, and $2800 buys a 400 day supply.
Far too many people have been indoctrinated by our education system, to never think outzide the box.
The Public education systrm was taken over by Rockerfeller, who wanted programmed workers.He also tool over the medical system, promoting alliopathic medicine.
alldaychemist.com
Great experience with them since 2020. Even when the FDA “took” one of my packages, they resent the entire order with one email.
Web tip: To spoof the site without having to upload a prescription, don’t answer their questions re: history, allergies etc. or just provide the minimum information.
I ordered my medications from India such as Azithromycin, Hydroxychloroquine and nobel prize-winning Ivermectin during the Covid-19 debacle. It was plentiful and very inexpensive, as were the inhalers. No gauntlets of doctors and insurance companies to hinder my access either.
When I explain to US healthcare professionals what I’m doing they are highly skeptical. All say that they wouldn’t trust buying medications made in a foreign country.
When I inform them that the US gubmint buys most of it’s medications from China they stare at me blankly. Some offer that nonetheless, US medications are more rigorously *regulated* before they are dispensed to the consumer.
Oh, you mean like they vetted those poison death shots for us?
C’mon man!
Oh, they’re more rigorously regulated alright. Big pharma controls the controllers to regulate in their favor-rigorously.
Happy you shared your web tip info. I have been using this company off and on ever since Covid. Great customer service just as long as you know it will be about 4-5 weeks before your order arrives. My only issue is not every medication is available in the strength I need.
Can you find this for less than $12,000? Venetoclax
X1000
…Not I, said the cat…
Yes, a tragedy for the poor and their loved ones. At first I felt a bit guilty getting a more favorable price – not anymore.
Actually,..I hate to break it to you, but thats a myth.
I personally know someone who has no health Ins.
BECAUSE they have no Ins. and are on a limited, fixed income the Clinic they go to charges them $30 per visit, no matter how many labs are ordered, $30 per “stick” if they need diagnostic tests at the local hospital, they get a 65% discount as a ‘cash pay” and then an 85% discount, based on their income…and they require a medication that costs $3000/month, but the drug manufacturer supplies it to them for free.
Than why do you order your meds from India?
The meds from India are limited, and out of patent, which means they are old. I doubt you will find the latest innovations in medicine on those sites.
So people are paying more so the person you know gets to pay nothing?
If the R’s and D’s have TDS they will argue against it. Pharma doesn’t have a salve for that.
Preparation H??
Not Republicans but MAGA.
They will use their standard playbook. ‘Now poor people around the world are going to suffer and die while Americans bask in their wealth.’
the fashists running things never miss an opportunity to pummel the middle class
It’s intentional, we’re the target.
In the aggregate we’re where the money is: Money = Production
What are you going to get out of a rich man or a welfare recipient?
correct, just the chosen can have money because more money equals more power and only they can hold power
Which exfiltrates our wealth to subsidize the globalist corps’ profits worldwide! Thank you, Prez Trump!
We Americans also pay for the Research and Development and they still treat us like dirt.
We’re the modern “Slavs”.
I’d say we’re the modern Slaves.
That’s why no-one has any savings.
They’re grinding the middle class into poverty.
That’s why the middle class has woken up and supported President Trump.
Poverty is a pretty big wake-up call!
The middle class, via poor education, absentee parents, and the legalization of pot is the middle class spending problems.
Those are far greater spending problems amongst the middle class than properly used prescription drugs.
Creating shortages via tariffs is a great way to fix that.
True that.
That’s the basic concept. The word Slave was originally in reference to the Slavs, who were enslaved way back when.
Actually, where do you think the English word, “slave” originated from? Hint: it wasn’t Africa.
Indeed, that’s why I used that word.
i am sure the insurance companies will love lower drug prices—but not so sure they will lower OUR individual insurance rates!!
The insurance companies are in bed and highly integrated with the pharmaceutical companies. They collude all the time. The losers:
Patients: They cannot afford the drugs. Tiered systems that make the best drugs unaffordable. Donut holes for Medicare went way, but were replaced by deductibles. Pharmaceutical companies make “patient assistance deals” to get you used to the good drugs that work, and then about 6 mos to a year later, you get denials from the insurance companies.
Prescribers (your primary care doc) have to spend enormous amounts of money, navigating through 100s of patient assistance programs, prior authorization requirements, pharmacy benefit managers that deny payment, offshore contracted companies that get paid a kick back to deny the pavement for the drugs that were working for the patient.
The insurance companies are in bed and highly integrated with the Federal Government. That is why healthcare is non existant.
You know how chemotherapy drugs are supposed to be SO expensive?
Thats B.S. When I was diagnosed, I researched which Chemo drugs would most likely be used, and called Global pharmacy (India) who I have been buying from, for years.
Cisplatin or Carboplatin, cost would have been $600 or lezs, for one full coarse of treatment.
When they said they couldn’t use it, because they could not be sure of its provinence.
I told them are you kidding? Its made in the same factory as the stuff you get here, and guaranteed if theres a shortage, your hospiral pharmacy will be buying it from India.
The whole current medical system is a scam.
Hence Luigi snapped.
“Pharmaceutical companies make “patient assistance deals” to get you used to the good drugs that work, and then about 6 mos to a year later, you get denials from the insurance companies.”
That is exactly what happened to me. I can’t yet afford to retire because of medical costs, among other things. The patient assistance program Dutch mentioned above are for the unemployed poor, not people who work. And yes, I did my homework.
Why use insurance if you can afford to pay out of pocket?
That’s great, if you really can pay out-of-pocket.
Do it!
Been doing it for 40 years now, no insurance
You would be amazed at the cash discounts you can get for medical procedures
Hospital in my area, gives a cash pay discount of 65%, right off the bat.
They have crunched the #’s, and figure it costs 2/3rds again as much for the same priduct/service, if they have to collect from Ins. co.
Then, they give an additional 85% discount, on top of that, for poor people on fixed incomes, but its a sliding scale that starts at annual income of $80,000/year.
So, a $10,000 bill (to insurance) is $3500, then further discounted its $475.
And, they will take payments, and din’t charge interest.
How nice for you. You also live in illegal alien capital Arizona where the services you describe were created for THEM. That service does not exist in many states. TN being one.
I meant if Trump gets costs down, screw insurance!
Just had prescriptions filled last
week.
It had been years since I had to
have a prescription, so my
information had expired regarding
insurance.😁
While they were re-doing the cost
write up.. I asked how much without
insurance?
42.00 dollars without
13.00 dollars with insurance
Difference-29.00 dollars
So….what kind a person pays for
health insurance every month….
then pays an extra 29.00 dollars
and doesn’t use the insurance
they pay for?
🙃 🙃 🤪 🤪
My daughter has epilepsy. Her anti seizure medication without insurance would cost $900 a month. With insurance (which my husband gets through work), the cost is $5 a month.
How much is the insurance?
Clearly Right to Reply meant why PAY for insurance premiums to have insurance coverage, if having none is more affordable.
But that would deny you a condescending response.
So, we’ll make the lives HELL, & our cowardly reps. Over & over.
We pay for everything, might as well tell them to F-off
Our politicians sell us out to everybody so they can rip us off.
That’s why President Trump’s holding such a strong hand, we can’t lose!
We’d be better off without any of them! MAGA!
because the more $ that goes flying around, the more to grift
Wonderful. Now let’s MAHA and get OFF the drugs.
Viva Trump!
The spanking President Trump is going to give the EU, is long overdue and so well deserved!
To me, its actually more satisfying than the spanking he is giving the CCP.
LOL- Time for a moniker update Dutch?
I think I’ll call Dutchman the “Spankmeister”
Spanky is Dutch’s favorite little rascal!
Maybe.
😁
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The more you know!
As we’re speakeing of the EU (or ewww) and drugs, did you see where Starmer, Macron and Mertz are sitting at a table, on a train, headed to Kiev.
The media walk in on them, and theres a baggie of white powder and a small spoon on the table. Macron scoops it up “casually” but its clear they got busted.
Video link over at TGP.
Otay!
That’s nice.
When is he going to announce that our SS benefits will no longer be taxed?
That unfortunately can be pushed by Trump but the tax law comes down to the Legislature.
Perhaps when Congress gets off their A$$?
That will never happen because they get paid no matter what. And their permanent staff are the real reason nothing is done except for ‘hearings’.
This Congress has sent our President Trump less bills to sign, this far into his term, than any previous President in history.
When the house and Senate deside to vote on it, of course.
Unfortunately that seems to have fallen off their list of “must haves”.
And it is us seniors who have been denied any change in the threshhold for the taxes on benefits to kick in since it went into effect IN 1984!!!!!! $26,000 in 1984 is now equal to more than $80k.
On the other hand, overtime pay is in fact income in the most basic definition of income – payment for your work. I have never understood why it should be tax-free. Tips are a gift – so there is a logical reason for them to be exempt.
Overtime often kicks workers into higher tax brackets making overtime almost punitive.
Imagine the lost productivity of the avoidance of overtime.
Imagine further the opportunity to address in part the skilled labor shortfalls we will certainly face during the reshoring of industry, as skilled workers will be incentivized to take on overtime to fill the gap.
It’s a beautiful thing.
Thank you…
tktk must have always been a salaried employee, or else never worked overtime.
Few things worse than putting in 13 hrs of overtime, only to see your paycheck is LOWER than your usual paycheck, happened to me a # of times.
Ouch!
I do believe the threshold for a single person on SS is $25,000 then you pay tax on 50% of your SS benefits. But you’re correct that that threshold has not be adjusted for inflation since 1984.
On the other hand, in 1993, they added yet another threshold. If you are single the threshold remained $25,000 for taxing 50%, but then they added another threshold that if you make over $34,000 then it increases to Taxing 85% of your SS benefits!
So in 1984 the average SS Benefit was $461 per month or $5,532 per year and the limit was $25,000 tax free. So you could earn an additional $19,467–over 3 times the amount of your SS Benefits before being taxed on 50% of your SS Benefits.
In 2025 the average SS Benefit per month is $1,997 or $23,964 per year, so you can only earn an extra $1,035 before hitting the $25,000 threshold.
Now, it is not quite as bad as what I’ve stated in the 2 paragraphs above because there is a formula used that deducts 50% of your SS Benefits on the IRS tax form. It works like this–
The IRS uses a “Combined Income” or “Provisional Income” figure.
It combines all other income of your ‘adjusted gross income’ (not including your SS Benefits) and just half(50%) of your SS Benefits to use as the basis for the Tax threshold.
So in 1984 example of $5,532 in SS Benefits, you would use 1/2 of that figure, $2,766, so you could earn an additional $22,234 before reaching the 1st $25,000 threshold.
In 2025 you would use that same formula of 1/2 of $23,964, $11,982, so can can earn an additional $13,018 before reaching the 1st $25,000 threshold.
So in 1984 your could earn an extra $22,234 before being taxed, but in 2025 you can only earn an additional $13,018 before being taxed.
I know this is getting really long, but one more item to take note of — The “marriage penalty” is a whopper for a married couple. A single person gets a $25,000 threshold limit so if married the threshold limit should be 2 x $25,000 = $50,000 right? Well nope! The thresh for a married couple is only $32,000 or $16,000 per person.
The second threshold for being taxed on 85% of your SS Benefits is $34,000 if single, so double that for 2 =$68,000, right? Nope! For married couple the 85% threshold is only $44,000!
Congress got rid of the ‘marriage penalty’ for the regular married income tax payers quite awhile ago, but never got rid of it for married Social Security recipients!
Thus endeth my long diatribe!
Could this same approach be used in agriculture/food? Sundance had explained the monopolies the big ag had by controlling foreign market shares of their specific products several years ago. Great explanation btw.
This is a big reason why I’m not a libertarian. They believe in the false notion of a free market when it’s being manipulated every which way.
The United States is supposed to be operating by a free market by protecting the American citizens from monopolies that destroyed the economic earning power and opportunity of the American citizens.
Unfortunately those creating the monopolies have paid off K Street and our Congressmen in order to not only allow these monopolies to thrive in this country, but then be moved to other countries via WEF to other countries where they can further reduce their overhead by avoiding the costs caused by over regulation by the same government.
Allow monopolies that cut out the individual citizens from earning a living and paying lower prices
Further increase the profit of the monopolies by making business more expensive in the US than it is to run the business in other countries.
Yes, I used to hang out with somerabid libertarian guys when I was young.
What I discovered, over time, was that they were actually intellectually lazy guys whose foundational premises were incorrect, who were amoral, had no concern for the consequences of their choices on others, & were basically undisciplined spoiled brats who just wanted to do what they wanted, without any ethical or moral consideration of their choices.
I. e., spoiled brats. Immature as hell, selfish, unable to function in human society.
Try looking up the meaning of the word somerabid.
Remember, the pharmaceutical companies screwed Trump going into the 2020 election. They waited to announce the Covid vaccine until the week after the election. It was all planned. Even the pharmaceutical companies helped rig the 2020 election. So, now it’s Trump’s turn to screw Big Pharma while helping Americans.
Next up, ban pharma advertising.
“Next up, ban pharma advertising.”
I have one social media vice, and that is the infrequent use of “Faceplant”. I have found a few pages supported by hobbyists and owner’s groups that I share a mutual interest in, so I do frequent those few pages, occasionally. Otherwise I’ve no need for that “app.” In what little time I spend scanning those few pages I am bombarded with ads from big pharma groups. I often wonder if those ads are tailored to a presumed demographic based on the pages I visit, or if they’ve broken into my medical records and are hounding me based off of specific knowledge.
When my sister used to visit while our Mom was convalescing at home, she always wanted to watch CBS “60 Minutes” on the telly.
The entire show was funded by commercials from drug companies. At least they posted all of the side effects. Black stool is one I can’t quite “un- remember.” But at least the drug pusher’s gave a warning.
Translating that…black stool relates to a GI Bleed…
Yup!
Its coming,but we need to go much further than that, and deconstruct the whole process for research.
Drugs that cure a condition, are not considered profitable.
Drugs that reduce the symptoms, somewhat but WITHOUT curing the patient, are a goldmine, as they have the patient hooked fro life.
The advertising corrupts the media.
Casey Means has made the argument that medical schools teach how to treat symptoms not causes. Lifestyle modifications are better than ingesting chemicals or having surgery- agreed.
I remember when my father was fifty and his doctor told him to cut out salt and start walking regularly to keep his blood pressure down. Ours is a very sedentary society. How much healthier we’d be if we got up and went for a walk everyday. I’ll be turning over the garden today- with a shovel, great exercise.
YES
Have a friend transitioning onto Medicare who briefly had to pay their own meds.
Interestingly, the cash price they paid (with pharmacy-supplied discount program) was far lower than what Medicare’s periodic disclosures to the insured showed the Medicare plan paying…. ?????
Roughly 5 times as much. Why would Medicare pay 5 times more than the cash price???
$$$$$ into campaign donations.
Bigger than USAID, by far.
Pay cash..it is much less expensive. Insurance is a huge fraud. A steroid injection in my shoulder was $150 cash apposed to $895 through Anthem.
I’ve been telling people this for years and they will nod along with me when I explain it and then they finish up with “But it doesn’t matter because I have insurance”.
All I can do is shake my head.
you are right! i had the same type experience. they insisted on using my insurance.
Because it gives them a bigger ROI. GREEDY BASTARDS.
They insist you have insurance.
Your mistake was having Ins. in the first place.
Someone correct me here if I am wrong, but Medicare only pays out a fraction of the list price for a procedure or medications yes?
If the one providing the service knows this what is stopping them from not just adjusting the list price higher to get the desired numbers.
The middle men having been screwing us. The PBMs, the hospital practices of extending our their services.
Thinking this is the proverbial tip of the iceberg when it comes down to it.
Ditto the rest of the insurance industry.
Yes it is. There is so much of the 4 Trillion dollars we spend on health care that is diverted. We have the ability to have good health care much less expensive.
America…the land of opportunity/s
Many people do not know what “Pharmacy Benefit Managers” are.
Daniel Best does… did.
Daniel Best was A Department of Health and Human Services official tasked with lowering prescription drug prices under the Trump administration. His death in 2018 from “multiple blunt force injuries” was controversially ruled a suicide, sparking speculation on platforms like X. These claims remain inconclusive without further evidence.
Let me blow a whistle….there is a Demorat HOR from suburban Chicago who ran, years ago, on being a nurse.
She got a MSN from Georgetown….with a focus on public policy, if I remember correctly.
She has done nothing viable for her district or we the people, and I wonder why she is so quiet on health care costs?
There have been a few attempts to unseat her…that have been failures. Now why is that I wonder/s.
I suspect she is quiet so as not to become compared to AOC out the Bronx.
Grok on the problems with Pharmacy Benefit Managers:
Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) are intermediaries between health plans, drug manufacturers, and pharmacies, managing prescription drug benefits for insurers and employers. While they aim to control costs and streamline drug distribution, several problems have been widely criticized, based on industry analyses, regulatory scrutiny, and public discourse:
2 Rising Drug Costs for Patients
3 Squeezing Independent Pharmacies
4 Rebate System Distortions
5Vertical Integration and Market Concentration
6Patient Access Restrictions
7Regulatory and Legal Concerns
8Misaligned Incentives
If a provider ACCEPTS Medicare, they can only charge what Medicare approves. The provider can go up all they want but Medicare is locked in at a set price…
This is the reason the best doctors with waiting listed new patients accept neither Medicare nor insurance company limits on the costs of their services.
Moreover, there is a rapidly growing number of “conceriege” practices that require annual retainer fees to be eligible for treatment services, which are provided on a cash basis.
People without wealth must increasingly rely upon Doctors of Osteopathy (DO) and Physicians Assistants (PA) instead of MDs.
The availability of high quality, physician provided medical care is grossly unequal in America.
Yep. Had a minor surgery, probably lasted about 1 hour (everything good) about 2 months ago. The hospital charged $ 18,000 to my insurance.
Its one of the “nice” things about being my age in that my insurance company just said no to paying most of it due to what I would owe if I were under Medicare.
Watch this, allow an hour. Then spread the news. It’s mind blowing!
It sounds like your friend didn’t sign up for a Medicare Part D drug program, which has its own Monthly fee separate from the Medicare Parts A &B fees.
There are also Medicare Advantage plans that are offered by Private medical insurance companies that have Medical and Drug plans that vary in different States and Counties, but are not available in all areas. In many places, these private companies have free gym use and other amenities, yet they also offer cheaper insurance than the regular government Medicare fees! The closer you live in the more populated Counties, the better deals you can get because of the competing Hospitals, Doctors, and other medical facilities.
Part D paid 24¢ of a $300+ refill. Part D is a bad joke on us.
I agree that there are (intentionally) many and convoluted twists and turns in “Medicare.”
Regardless of who pays, medicare recognizes a Price that is substantially higher than the price to buy the meds for cash.
Hopefully, Trump will figure out how to completely let the air out of Obummercares’ tires.
Not sure what happened in you or your friends case, but I found this in a Google search.
A 30-day supply of apixaban (Eliquis) with Medicare Part D coverage typically costs around $55 per month, with many people paying less. Some individuals on Medicare pay as little as $10 to $40 per month. The actual cost can vary based on the specific Medicare Part D plan, formulary tier, deductible, copayments, and coinsurance.
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+much+is+a+months+worth+of+apixaban+with+a+Medicare+pard+D+account.&sca_esv=c148ee2db824e130&sxsrf=AHTn8zqWenrfYrkQ4UiLt8nqCg27qeKCaA%3A1747012944108&source=hp&ei=UE0haNSpA4fE0PEPgrCF2Qg&iflsig=ACkRmUkAAAAAaCFbYJ2cw7hOXBEknSItwST2oDZOKrA7&ved=0ahUKEwjUkcuv4pyNAxUHIjQIHQJYIYsQ4dUDCCs&uact=5&oq=How+much+is+a+months+worth+of+apixaban+with+a+Medicare+pard+D+account.&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz
Google is not your friend. I take that medication and you will not get it on any Part D for those prices…It will drop in 2026 as it’s being added as a negotiated drug but I doubt it will be as cheap as Google thinks…
Part D is a joke. I remember the republicans lauding it to make themselves feel they did something for who they think of as the little people.
Every year I got a notice saying it would cost me a lot more in the future if I didn’t buy it right then, written in the form of a threat, and it was never cheap.
Meanwhile I bought Kroger’s plan for thyroid pills and the odd prescription like an antibiotic and got very good prices.
Then the threat letters from Medicare stopped and the latest letter tried to get me to buy Part D by saying if I had any prescription plan I could get Part D for a good price. My take away from that is not a lot of people buy Part D.
People who require expensive drugs are caught in their vice. But if you have needs that are not expensive, it is much cheaper to find a cost effective drug plan and pay cash. The people at Kroger would also routinely check other coupons they had in addition to my plan.
The medical industry is a farce, only to be out done by the United States Congress.
We are required to have Part D if you use original Medicare when we become eligible. If you do not get Part D when you are eligible you are subject to a late enrollment penalty of 1% per month for every month that your enrollment is delayed. This is based on average monthly cost of Part D plans in your area. Or, you need to be enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan that includes drug coverage.
I have come across many people who have not enrolled when they became eligible and after 10 years are penalized at $36.00 per month permanently. This is calculated in my area as; 1% of avg Cost per month =$.30 x 120 months = $36.00;
Make sure you understand what you are doing and the repercussions if you choose to forgo drug coverage when you enroll in Medicare.
You can still use cash if you prefer to do so.
Corruption. Lies. Greed.
Government is a racket, medicare is .gov
Ironic timing, check out top two stories on TGP.
This is the first, just below is an “aquward moment” caught on tape, when the press walk in on Starmer, Macron in a traincar, on the way to Ukraine, and theres a bag of white poweder and coke spoon on the table.
Now we know why so many celebs and politicians felt it neccesary to “show solidarity with Ukraine” by traveling to Kiev,…its so they could SCORE!
Nah, The “awkward situation” occurred on the WAY TO Ukraine.
Who was about to “pitch”….and whom was going to “catch” ???
That was a tissue or napkin that someone probably just blew their nose with so it’s understandable someone would pocket it. The other “stick” looks like one of those plastic spears that hold garnishments in drinks.
Stu, not a student of body language? The looks on their faces said it all: Busted. Totally busted.
My question is this…so much tainted and laced illegal drugs out there, that kill…
…it seems that the lower echelon of society gets afflicted with the tainted products…and they die.
And the ‘upper echelon’ imbibes without worry?
Why doesn’t that happen to Hollyweird of government people?
Still healthy and NOT suicidal.
This reminded me, in Trump-45’s term, through the Medicare program, a similar situation was created in order to lower the price of medicines, insulin especially, to not more than $35.00 per refill.
It was not slated to go into effect until 2021, but it was on the books.
In the recent general elections, our Democrat Senator, Jackie Rosen, up for re-election claimed that it was through her efforts that she was able to lover insulin to $35 per refill. And every time that commercial ran on the TV I would scream at the TV saying “no you didn’t – I watched the Rose Garden ceremony when President Trump and the lady in charge of Medicare announced these lower drug prices” and then would go on about my business.
Nice to see this new, updated prescription cost lowering initiative getting press now, in the 1st year of the Trump-47 term. At least we won’t have to listen to lying politicians running for re-election staking claims to having done this.
Winning!
She is one of many liars that we have here in Nevada.
I admire you for being able to listen to the dribble on television. I can’t do it.
That’s why I yelled at the commercials; and then would turn the channel in case they ran it again 🙂
What makes me so disgusted by the whole thing is that we had 536 people in Congress and the Presidency for decades and not one of them lifted a pinky to help the American people.
I do not consider a sternly worded letter, a committee interrogation, an outraged tweet, or a campaign promise to be “help”.
Of course, my TDS friends still hate PDJT. He could cure cancer and they would still hate him.
Kabuki, and shenanigans, all of it. Those jerks put the CON in Congress.
And how many presidents have we had since Reagan who either wouldn’t do anything or weren’t smart enough to do anything. They were just along for the ride, what they could get out of it. A pox on all their houses.
To Heck with the Invisible Hand. MAGA > Adam Smith
Did you dance?
9/11 Is Beautiful is a rather strange and provocative moniker, n’est-ce pas?
So I’d really like to know, did you dance?
About time but at the same time, I can’t but help think this too will be stayed by some 2 bit District Court Judge somewhere.
Trump is hoping so, and hoping that the Dems reflexively oppose.
The list of things the Dems now oppose is hilariously bad politics.
I don’t take drugs but I am so happy for those that do!
How it helps you is that if Pharmaceuticals are cheap in this country then hospitals cannot charge $1,000 per pill, insurance companies don’t have to pay $1,000 per pill, and cash prices for medicines will go down.
I remember when hospitals would charge $100 per aspirin or something stupid like that.
When I was a new grad, the ink was not dry on my license, we were told to tell patients they could not bring their own medications from home. They could only use what the doctor in the hospital prescribed…
This racket goes back to the 70’s.
You pay taxes that pay for meds that other citizens require, so you win too!
This sounds like really good news.
The thing I don’t understand is the mechanism — how he makes it happen.
How will he cause the drug companies to lower their prices to Americans?
Makes at least 2 of us 😎
I’d assume he could pull FDA approval?
Maybe?
How about if they don’;t comply it is jail time for them.
The drug companies already charge different prices to different countries depending on how much they can screw over the citizens.
PDJT is now requiring pharma to charge the lowest price that they charge outside of the USA. Most Favored Nation.
That’s it.
Does he have a constitutional / legal right to do that?
Sure does; National Security.
What happens during a war or another health emergency and we have to rely on other countries to provide for our basic medical needs?
What a mess…corporate law, health care law, business law…USDA, FDA, DEA and then bring it all down to the ‘state’ levels.
By hook or crook, they are going to get ‘single payor’ health care if it kills us.
Oh, and asking for a friend…how much does USAID contribute to the health care industry?
Not suicidal…
A real stroke of genius! They’re all so corrupt and stupid that they can’t imagine something so unusual, that DOESNT LINE THEIR POCKETS, as being worth considering! Dumba$$es!
G-d bless Donald Trump. He simply cared so much for his fellow Americans that he took a lot heat in order to do tremendous good for us.
G-d bless him and G-d bless the USA!
Does this take care of the Big Pharma middle man and kickbacks?
Does this take care of taxpayers paying for Big Pharma’s research through NIH, who then shares the recipe–while we pay more to Pharma to pay them for their “research”?
Lots of questions need to be answered, but THE priority for now should be getting antibiotics manufactured IN THE USA!
Trump is forcing them to share the research burden with the entire world, not just the USA
I don’t think you understand. The NIH–not the pharmaceutical labs–is doing the actual research on our dime. Big Pharma is using research that was paid for by the taxpayer from NIH. That’s why the heads of NIH are in a revolving door between the gov’t and Big Pharma. It works just like military-industrial complex.
Here is my suggestion…given what America has been put thru for the last 5-6 years…
President Trump needs to write an EO that gives all Americans a full and complete
Moratorium
On having to buy or purchase any medication via out of pocket or insurance…from Multivitamins (Durbin, get outta here)…
…to high level chemo, intraoperative anesthetics, IV fluids, Motrin, Tylenol, anti-hypertensives, insulin, epinephrine injections, anti-diabetic meds, heart meds, asthma meds, vaso pressors, thyroid meds etc…and all the generics.
ALL of THEM,
ALL Medications every last nanogram and pill or injectable solution…
And, no funding for them. And they must be made in America, by Americans for Americans.
…and finance it thru Big Pharma (and Chyna), (Pfizer is reportedly to have the highest problem with post jab deaths/side effects). Yes, a little fascist, but “they” owe us.
Am really not suicidal…!
Brakes are good….
Brigham Buehler is a real HERO.
A single month’s supply of eliquis (apixaban) (the blood thinner of choice) costs $200 to $400 OR MORE in the USA. In many countries, you can buy a three-month supply for about $50. Same drug.
I have A-fib and am on the apixaban blood thinner to prevent strokes. I get mine through my VA medical account and only pay $11 a month. I also have a Medicare Advantage Plan with Blue Shield, but through them, it would be $30 a month.
So for those on Medicare, etc, may not be affected much unless some of these higher priced drugs are cheaper than what some of us already pay.
I take Warfarin and have for years, getting a test every 6 weeks, always in range. The prescription for 90 days supply costs me nothing out of pocket. I also take 4 other Rx, 3 of which I pay nothing out of pocket. I pay $32 for a 90 day supply of the 4th Rx, which I get through GoodRx because they are cheaper than my insurance out-of-pocket would be. I pay $21/mo for my Part D prescription premium, $9 of which is a penalty from Medicare for late signup at age 67.
I have a Medi-gap plan and a Part D plan with two different healthcare companies.
You didn’t use Part D so now you’re being fined for not costing the government money???
Yes they will fine you-and they also will fine you if you do not sign up for Part B except if you have another employer health plan. Cobra doesn’t count–ask me how I know. 2 months between jobs with Cobra coverage and we are fined permanently .
I take apixaban (eliquis) I pay $360.00 for 90 day supply. Medicare Part D. Same drug in India in US dollars—-$36.00
My spouse pays 380 for 90 days-while using Part D.
Yikes, a 1,200% to 2,400% markup on the same drug.
Just how many Congressmen were looking away as they were in on the take?
Inhalers, not rescue ones like Albuterol, are bankrupting.
The one my husband uses…so he can breathe…is $2000 upfront. Medicare D for the only medication he takes will not cover.
Fortunately, and God bless him, his wonderful pulmonologist was only too happy to supply him with samples.
We wait to see if there is any relief coming our way.
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So sorry Betsy jones. My mom used to use Albuterol, then her Pulminologist put went to Pulmicort. Less jitters. But I guess because it really was a good inhalant, the price skyrocketed, and insurance company’s didn’t want to pay the premium and best product anymore.
I really don’t know what the answer to all of this is
Thank you. I know what we face is mirrored by millions, Retired IG. I have read terrible accounts of people having to choose which of several medicines their doctors have prescribed they can afford, and worse in many cases, the end result of having to make those choices.
I remember the Mylana CEO daughter of Joe Manchin suddenly jacking the price of Epipen to $700+…that was years back. And the panic amongst those whose lives depended upon it not having the resources to pay it.
As with your mother’s inhaler, the price we paid originally was dear but we managed. Then literally overnight it was increased exponentially. Not complaining so much as explaining…
It’s a Big Club with millions of members in it.
I don’t know what the answer is either…but there has to be one in there somewhere.
That is crazy! When I was an RN in surgical services inhalers were used all the time-I don’t remember them being an expensive item.
Can someone explain how this will work in plain English?
Thanks.
By claiming MFN status, it compels the Pharm companies to have pricing from the country with the lowest price to then sell it here at the same price.
Thanks!
Sounds simple and obvious.
So why was this not done years ago?
$$$$$$$’s………swapping hands in politics, business, K-Street…same ole thievery we’ve witnessed forever.
Because insurance companies, and politicians were getting kickbacks
Because the cockroaches in government were getting their kickbacks by the pharmaceutical companies.
How soon until a district judge rules PT can’t order most favorite nations pricing?
Thanks be to GOD I DO NOT take any pharmaceuticals AND I DO NOT go to any doctors
How old are you? I didn’t take any pharmaceuticals, or got to doctors for many years either! Now I’m 87, a stent in one artery that saved my life at 69, and now with A-Fib.
Good on ya’ Wiley! 87 and still hanging out in a Treehouse! Never too old for a good time with friends! 😉
Thank You! Been here for many years, and a long-time President Trump fan.
I have for years wished for a smart business person for President. We as the peons were expected to spend wisely while our government spent like drunken sailors!
We need to throw ’em in the bilge and make ’em drink it.
Wiley, I’m 75 and not on any pharmaceuticals although my doctor wanted me to go on blood thinners and statins. Why I don’t know as my cholesteroI was never high and my good cholestrol numbers were always quite high. I told him no and don’t push the issue, same as the flu and cv19 shot. He finally no longer brings up the shots or drugs. Had a stroke March 2024, recovered 95% and then in April broke my right hip. I refused their medications while in rehab because they pushed statins and blood thinners in the hospital and I had allergic reactions with both.
I took care of my parents for 20 years and saw them get all sorts of side effects from the drugs the doctors put them on and then when they had a side effect, they gave them another one for the side effect. It was a vicious cycle and their health continued to go down hill. They didn’t listen to me as I was only their daughter. The sun rose and set on the doctors as far as they were concerned.
I take supplements, eat only homemade from scratch food and have a garden and some critters to keep me active. I realize some individuals have no choice but I guess, so far, I haven’t needed any prescriptions and hope my health will continue. I consider myself blessed beyond measure for my good health.
Sorry for the long response. Have a wonderful and blessed Monday.
But one day you might, and pray it isn’t the BIG C
I don’t take any drugs, legal or not and I don’t drink. My last doctor visit was to the VA hospital for a routine checkup 10 years ago. I am 72 and only went on Social Security 5 months ago.
Pharma will just give them a different name.
No, Mr. President. I’m still not tired of winning. It’s sad to see some libertarian idiots thinking this is “price controls”.
Rather crazy that the U.S. has held so many “cards” over the years, but not until now played them!
We had politicians who folded on a royal flush.
How long before we see the looney tooners out there protesting that President Trump is taking away our Medicare and Medicaid drug plans because the imposed tariffs on EU Pharma will INCREASE the cost of Seniors drug costs and it will take away from their social security payments????!!!!!!
I’m waiting for another protest on seniors paying more for drugs…wait for it!
Here’s how it will probably go down…
Some pharma company will pick some very expensive but very low sales-volume drug that only a handful of people in the US take, and they will stop selling it in the US “because of MFN.” Pharma will then tip off the media who will headline this nonstop with stories about some poor suffering patients who can’t get vital meds because of Bad Orange Man.
Trump to sign executive order he says will slash drug prices by up to 80%
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-sign-executive-order-he-says-slash-drug-prices-up-80?fbclid=IwY2xjawKOKfRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHpUjnHhnhnflJBV4x-Uzm1x5npf-ZOOyjwdvV5ZoKXl6fAT31M3Yft4ibEuI_aem_NX_en1YRCrcYHaWcegHdzw
Amazing that Republican voters are now cheering on price regulations. Sure sounds like that woke stuff Liberals talk about.
Republicans are now also in favor of taxes and a strong Federal government, while standing against free trade.
This only proves that (most) Republican voters have the ideological stance of a toddler who agrees with anything his parents say.
There is a lot wrong with this comment. Go troll somewhere else.
I have lived in one of the Reddest parts of the country my entire life. I know what I speak of.
I have to agree with you. This is socialism. If we didn’t want Obamacare, how can we embrace this. Understand that the reason prices are different in other countries is because those socialist countries are price controlled. The pharmaceutical company can only sell CERTAIN medications (not all and the best and most recent available) and can only sell those medications in those countries at a certain price. In the United States, the pharmaceutical companies can sell the full breadth of the medications available. The American people get the benefit of all of those medications. As well, the pharmaceutical companies DO heavily discount medications but the Pharmaceutical Benefit Managers (insurance companies – Optum RX (United health) CVS, Express scripts, etc) DO NOT PASS THE DISCOUNTS on to the consumer. This is a legislative problem that has never been addressed or fixed. But for Trump to force an American company what to charge is socialism. It’s what we have been fighting against. I don’t understand how you guys can be for this. If the Pharm companies stop making medications that would be horrific.
How about if the Pharma companies make the drugs in the good ole USA?
Understand now?
They do and they are in some cases:
2 billion dollar plant to be built in NC to result in 500 jobs. Isn’t this what free market looks like?
https://www.wral.com/news/local/johnson-johnson-groundbreaking-manufacturing-campus-wilson-march-2025/
They pay cheaper because you are paying the research costs! YOU ARE PAYING so they can say they have “FREE” healthcare!
“This is socialism.”
Well, if that’s what it really is then stand by and get ready to watch as Bernie Sanders stands in front of his constituents and sings the praises of Donald Trump.
“If the pharm companies stop making medications that would be horrific.”
I know how they can easily cut costs to save trillions: Stop making poison death shots.
Talk about a win win!
I’m talking about the life-saving cancer drugs, the heart medications, the medical devices that are saving and extending people’s lives. We don’t want to lose that do we?
If the government and the large conglomerate food companies and the pharmaceutical companies and all the crooked agencies of the government that are supposedly policing these companies, FDA, Dept. of Agriculture, etc. would quit poisoning our population, there probably would not be cancer. The cv19 shots have caused turbo cancer. Another big win for the Pharmaceutical manufacturers, I’d say. I suggest you either do some deep researching before you cry wolf!
Here is a terrific interview with Greta Van Susteren and Congressman Jake Auchincloss explaining how the PBM’s (project benefit managers) the middleman, takes the discounts given by the pharmaceutical companies. https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/jake-auchincloss-pharmacy-benefit-managers-drug-costs/2025/01/06/id/1194078/
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Yes, that is the best southern stare! Smiling broadly. Have a blessed Monday Betsy.
You don’t understand.
We want those drug produced in the USA, not India, Ireland or China!
Like a 2 billion dollars plant in NC – like that?
https://www.wral.com/news/local/johnson-johnson-groundbreaking-manufacturing-campus-wilson-march-2025/
Profit from death? You sound like a Neocon
Death? No life!
Warning, warning troll alert!
We are supposed to embrace engagement, debate, differences in thought, correct?
Congress needs to put these Trump Executive orders into law. Also…. will be interesting to see how dems find a way to oppose this…or black robes find a way to rule a nationwide injunction to stop it. Just sayin’….
Hey guys, this is a problem. 1. Pharm companies already discount drug prices and average of 55% – 60% and up – the middle men, the insurance companies, et al, refuse to pass the savings on to the consumer – not the pharmaceutical’s fault. (2) Foreign countries pay less for some drugs but also get less medications – they are socialist countries and the govt only allows certain drugs to be sold – it’s govt-controlled and govt’s control the prices. Do we want that? To force pharmaceuticals to charge the same price in the us market as in foreign countries will mean less drugs for all of us… not a good idea to force a company to change its policy because we would still like medications for cancer and stuff, don’t we?
Why would pharmaceutical companies continue in business, continue to spend and RISK money on research and development for new innovative medications and medical devices when the govt is going to price control them? I’m a big fan of Trump and Sundance – have been following since 2008 – but even Trump says he doesn’t understand what’s going on with pharm pricing. This is a mistake. It’s also unconstitutional. The govt does not have the right to make company policy, not in a free country anyway. I’m begging you all to understand this better before we become the socialized medical state that we all said we didn’t want ala Obamacare. The issue is with the insurance companies, the CVS’s of the world who are not passing the discounts for these meds on to the consumer, NOT the pharmaceutical companies.
That’s why we have competitors to CVS like GoodRx. I get the only prescription I have to pay out-of-pocket for through GooDRx because the out-of-pocket cost from my insurance would be over 3 times as much. My other 4 prescriptions cost me nothing out-of-pocket.
President Trump would not be using MFN pricing unless he had his attorneys thoroughly research the legality, knowing full well that lower hack court judges will block him, but that in the end the SCOTUS would rule in his favor.
President Trump will be bringing into the USA about 2.5 TRILLION dollars with this Executive Order.
Pharma Companies will manufacture here in the USA, get it now?
They already are manufacturing here and building new plants, too!
for example
https://www.wral.com/news/local/johnson-johnson-groundbreaking-manufacturing-campus-wilson-march-2025/
Do you or a loved one work for a pharmaceutical company?
Where has all the money for “innovative research” for cancer drugs gone up til now? I was given 5FU for colon cancer, a drug patented in 1962-and it is still one of the first line treatments. FROM 1962.Where does all the money we get nickel and dime for at the grocery store etc.? The pink ribbons and all that stuff?
Unless congress codifies these EOs, it will all revert next administration
I’d like to see a Democrat administration reverse this prescription EO and see what happens to them.
You are painfully correct, and the House RINOs show little interest in doing so.
I wonder if Obergruppenfuehrerin von der Leyen took her own pharma companies seriously when they told her what they’d do over this verdammte tariff stuff. I wonder if she threw something against the wall.
This has been needed for so long and has the potential to have an effect as if the medico cartels were only going to be reimbursed at the lowest rate that Medicare reimburses. This will be better if it sticks.
“ The Jews”….. Any links ro support your statement? Or, are you taking the opportunity on this well regarded site to slander and insult the Jewish community….
I worked in the Hoechst-Roussel Pharmaceuticals regional office in St. Louis back in the 90’s. According to what I was hearing, the government paid for a lot of the research. So overcharging us for the drugs to ‘pay’ for the research didn’t make sense to me. I take Jardiance and have paid almost $600/3 months in the past. Just recently renewed the Rx and I’m sure the cost was around $150 for 3 months. Did PDJT already lower some of the prices. I remember around 8 years ago my drug costs for a year was $8,000. Much better recently.
Sundance retweet…
From 2000-2007, I worked for a company that provided technology to U.S. pharma manufacturers. I watched as many pharma manufacturers relocated operations.
Didn’t recognize what I was witnessing at the time. Will be good to see the businesses return to the U.S.
It is great to see your President truly looking out for you.
As Canadian that lives in a border town it was interesting observing residents of Washington State “ load up” at our pharmacies and purchase over the counter drugs here, that were by prescription only in Washington.
Epipens ( sp) were very popular at onetime, a businessman we knew in Blaine Washington bought them for himself and others close to him.
Cheers!
“Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years.”
I believe this is his warning to Republicans (at least the RINO). This is your chance to prove you are not a RINO if you are Republican. I think it is then mostly Republican congress critters who have profit at the most of her the American healthcare dollar. If George continues and when it hits the medical industrial complex there is going to be a whole lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Sundance has warned us, “there are trillions at stake”. Expect major backlash on this. It will be for the sick, the infirim, the dying, the children, the underdeveloped poor countries, doncha know.
We privileged Americans pay for the development of the drugs and out of the goodness of our hearts will give it to the rest of the world at sometimes 1/10 of the cost. While the pharmaceutical industry, the pharmacy benefit managers, the large hospital corporations, and the payola to the K street lawyers, the Bureaucrats centers for Medicare and Medicaid services (CMS) get rich. This is the scripts that are going to be rolled out to coerce us to keep paying for our wasted exorbitant health care expenditures.
Remember. The United States spends about 20% of our total gross domestic product in healthcare. That amounts to about $4 trillion per year.
Up until now, DOGE and PDJT have primarily worked on the foreign countries ripping us off. In health care we will find it is our own countrymen, and a high percentage of Republican congress critters. Remember it was after PDJT started having public and embarassing meetings with the pharmaceutical companies that they unleashed COVID, and the whole uniparty unleashed itself against PDJT.
Sorry, I did not proof read and the window of time to edit passed. Adrem, feel free to delete the above similar post.
“Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years.”
I believe this is his warning to Republicans (at least the RINO). This is your chance to prove you are not a RINO if you are Republican. I think it is themostly Republican congress critters who have profited the most off of the American healthcare dollar. If DOGE continues and when it hits the medical industrial complex, there is going to be a whole lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Sundance has warned us, “there are trillions at stake”. Expect major backlash on this. It will be for the sick, the infirim, the dying, the children, the underdeveloped poor countries, doncha know.
The protectors of the Grift will say that we privileged Americans pay for the development of the drugs and out of the goodness of our hearts will give it to the rest of the world at sometimes 1/10 of the cost. In reality, the pharmaceutical industry, the pharmacy benefit managers, the large hospital corporations, and the payola to the K street lawyers, the Bureaucrats centers for Medicare and Medicaid services (CMS) get rich. This is the script that is going to be rolled out to coerce us to keep paying for our wasted exorbitant health care expenditures.
Remember. The United States spends about 20% of our total gross domestic product in healthcare. That amounts to about $4 trillion per year.
Up until now, DOGE and PDJT have primarily worked against the foreign countries ripping us off. In health care we will find that it is our own countrymen, and a high percentage of Republican congress critters that are ripping us off. Remember, it was after PDJT started having public and embarassing meetings with the pharmaceutical companies, that they unleashed COVID, and the whole uniparty unleashed itself against PDJT.
The man is a SAVAGE, he’s successfully entrapped them in their own labyrinth
O. W. N. E. D.
What about Africa and Latin America? They would have to go without medicines.
Why?
You are not making any sense.
Bill Gates will help them with new and improved meds.
So effective you only need to take the medication once!
That is exactly the backlash we can expect to hear:
You hypocritical Christians. Jesus said take care of the sick. (then you take care of them, while I practice stewardship of the fruit of my labor)
We can buy medications much cheaper and manufacture our own and send it to the poor countries more economically than the Grift that is happening now.
Yes, it’s possible the pharmaceuticals will raise the prices to foreign countries to match what the new price controlled US pays for certain meds and the foreign govt ( who controls the prices of those meds and the types of meds purchased in those countries) will refuse to pay the higher prices , hence those meds will no longer be available to the people in those countries. Thanks for the question that illustrates what is going on.
I don’t think that the US corporations are responsible for medicating the world, but pharmaceuticals are a business and they sell meds to other countries within that country’s govt price controlled system at the price they will pay. That price (for some meds) happens to be lower than the price the market bears in the Us market. (By about 10% after discounts) If an American president is going to unconstitutionally mandate the price, the pharmaceutical, the business, can decide to raise the price in the foreign country to match the price in the US and the foreign country might decide not to pay it – not to allow the med in their country. Oh well – that’s capitalism, the result of an executive order policy. Not that a US company is responsible for the medication of foreign countries – the pharmaceutical business will simply forego the sales. This a business. Their goal is to make a profit and create shareholder value. That’s capitalism.
That is seriously awesome news!
not just medicine.
dental crown US $ 1,200.00
dental crown Perú $ 250.00
I can visit my mom in Perú and pay for my dental crown and still cheaper than in the US.
Hopefully they won’t simply raise prices everywhere else.
You think those European countries could afford immigration if medicine costs were equal across the globe? Nope!
As Bill Ackman notes:
The best way to reduce drug prices in the U.S. is to make it illegal for drug companies to sell the same drugs abroad for lower prices than they sell them for here.
This will force a globally negotiated price that will be lower than the prices that U.S. consumers pay now and higher than what foreigners pay now.
Otherwise we are stuck with a system where American consumers subsidize drug development for the rest of the world.
Ask any pharma company CEO. They will agree that the above approach will have the intended effect.
Sure. Tell an American business how to run their business and see it go out of business and not provide any new groundbreaking drugs and medical procedures. I have a question, does the govt madate what other US businesses must charge for the products they sell here and abroad? How about hotel rooms? Does the US govt insist that a hotel room in the same hotel in another country be the same rate as a hotel room in another country? Why not? It’s the same hotel room? Medicines are products. They are commodities that a US businesses must makes for a profit. That’s capitalism. Mess with it and we ruin the most innovative medicines and cures the world has ever known why would a company stay in business if they are going to be told the price to sell their products? That’s socialized medicine. What we fought so hard against with Obamacare. Not yo mention unconstitutional.
Halleluiah!! Lets get started on health care. I’m already sick on Winnamins and now we are getting started on healthcare.
I wondered how PDJT was going to approach this. He started this on his last term, just bringing it up. He gave them a chance. They attacked him and the country with COVID. FAFO!
Since the US pays for most health care: Medicare, Medicaid, VA. We control the purse (but our legislators are bribed and have input on the expenditures).
PDJT just said, “I’m (the American citizens) not paying any more than anyone else pays for these drugs.
It is going to get interesting. It is complicated. The ones getting rich off this system are going to hurt big time, and they will fight back. We.must.back.our.president. He is fighting for us.
There is no sympathy among the U.S. citizens for the pharmaceutical industry, or even the large hospital systems and insurance companies. But there is fear. Fear of losing our medical care, or being bankrupted trying to get it when we or our loved ones are sick. The enemies stealing us blind in our own country are going to use that fear.
I am praying. This is a big dragon.
Fear Porn will be pushed pretty hard on this one, you are quite correct in that, Doc.
New Systems certain to be attacked by the losers; and the minds of the people are the targets.
The Lord giveth and the Vultures taketh away….
Good morning Maquis. Yes the fear porn will, unfortunately, be unbearable, and unfortunately there will be a large group of “sheep” freaking out with the “fear”. Of course, this is exactly what they want to happen. It sure gets old and wearisome. Have a wonderful Monday Maquis.
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Here’s the thing about terrible dragons. Sooner or later someone is going to be a hero by slaying the beast.
Not unlike Saint George.
I am of the opinion that President Trump has only just started. The best is yet to come.
This is stellar, do we think this was what PDJT tweet was about regarding his next move?
Sundance suspects as much.
It’s in his Twit posted in the thread.
I love this man…..
Let me be very clear; the US Government SHOULD NOT EVER be involved in our private health care.
I would think that Libertarians would know the history of government involvement in our health care and price controls placed on hospitals, through Diagnostic-Related Groups (DRGs) in the 1980’s. That’s when the %$it hit the proverbial fan ? Up until that time it was normal for a private doctor/patient/hospital/pharmacy relationship. The patient could actually afford to pay cash for services, even retirees. In many instances, hospitals, set up “payment plans” for patients to help them out financially, doctors also helped families in need.
AND more importantly, (I know from personal family experience), NO Physician and /or HOSPITAL turned away emergency care patients.
I will let this sit right here for anyone really interested.
But, I stress this emphatically, the people of this country were blind-sided and also FORCED by the FEDERAL Government to go down this disastrous road.
Now, it has to be fixed.
Finally, we have a President, who lived through this and understands the history of this disgusting socialized/communist brand of healthcare BS!
Nuff said!!!
With the exception of murdering life in the womb and calling that a “health care choice”. Then I think the government is expected to have a law against it, therefore being involved in our healthcare.
Well, at the time the government was creeping into our health care system, killing babies was A CRIME in EVERY STATE.
But that was in the 20th century!
We lost every round in our personal healthcare fight, as most should acknowledge, in the 21st century.
We have gone way beyond Socialism into Murdering the inconvenient people of our country.
Cringe-Worthy! Evil! Despicable!
Hey there, I agree with everything you said up until you
Mentioned the president who said last night that he is going to control prices of American pharmaceutical companies – isn’t that govt control of healthcare?
That’s MY president!
May God Bless PDJT and his extended family.
The other part of costs and pricing that needs to be controlled is the “Tier Categorization” games that are played to artificially inflate costs. This cost increase occurs in the US no matter what the cost, source of payment used and source of drug purchased.
The entire system is arbitrary and used by drug outlets to favor a specific supplier who makes the best deal with the outlet.
One issue that does need to be addressed, to be fair to the drug developers, is cost advantage knock-off and generic manufacturers have over the actual drug developer. China, The Philippines, Canada, India and few other places are home to large generic drug companies … the Asian Companies also get to use the “cost of labor” advantages … i.e. China, India and the Philippines.
America’s Hidden Pharmaceutical Foreign Aid: Why U.S. Drug Prices Subsidize the World