Not realizing it was probably just great entertainment; there was a time, not that long ago that I read, believed and quoted “QANON”. so I am not getting “in the weeds”, thank you very much.

SO if in fact the war ends, did the CIA puppet masters lose?

What are the acoustics in that room?

Is that a room where everything can be heard, even from areas out-of-sight?
Or is it a room designed so echo-y that nothing can be discerned when people talk?

The Vatican would have need of both types of spaces.

Intelligence Communities = British Crown

yeah, who could deny that Francis was near death’s door, you’d sound like a nut. If the IC was involved, I bet they thought it funny to do it right after JD’s visit on Easter. My first thought when I saw this photo op was – this is inside the Vatican – Jesus is there. It looks like the way some priests hear confessions. Jesus is there. Our prayers do matter. Keep praying.

It’s too delicious knowing how deep in hell the atheistic individuals , who make up the Marionette Cartel will be in, on judgement day.

There has been pulling of strings at other so-called dignitaries funerals but using the Pope’s funeral like this, warrants another level of judgement altogether. Plotting the slaughter of others by manipulating wars. Not a good look for them.

By speeding up things, in times of impatience, invites recklessness and exposure, making situations more dangerous, causing the veil to drop faster.

The rebound of the Pope’s health, was divine intervention. His now, last homily on Easter, read by a Cardinal, was brimming with gratitude and hope. Here is a small portion:

“Brothers and sisters, this is the greatest hope of our life: we can live this poor, fragile and wounded existence clinging to Christ, because he has conquered death, he conquers our darkness and he will conquer the shadows of the world, to make us live with him in joy, forever. This is the goal towards which we press on, as the Apostle Paul says, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead (cf. Phil 3:12-14).”
 
“The Jubilee invites us to renew the gift of hope within us, to surrender our sufferings and our concerns to hope, to share it with those whom we meet along our journey and to entrust to hope the future of our lives and the destiny of the human family. And so we cannot settle for the fleeting things of this world or give in to sadness; we must run, filled with joy. Let us run towards Jesus.”
 
Amen to that. In the end we will see who was running towards Jesus with us.

The facial bruise – from rolling over and hitting the nightstand? Conked on the head even with the Swiss Guard on duty?

To me, if it was a deliberate thing, it was a steady and increasing retention of fluid – he was looking for weeks like he needed Lasix – at least to take off the pressure of so much excess fluid – was the retention caused by prednisolone or some other medication regarding the lung problem? I don’t know! I didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express! But he was LOOKING like he was headed for a massive stroke, with that excessive fluid, it looked miserable but he was trying to look cheerful, like “no problem”.

So it could have been deliberately orchestrated, just by withholding the amount of Lasix or similar medicine to alleviate the building pressure of excess fluid that would lead to a massive stroke.

IDK if someone already posted;

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1915702650290528601

It’s showing anti-drone weaponry in use around Vatican. Eye opener for some of us unfamiliar with contemporary security – did anyone in PA have that for the infamous Rally?

Here is the timeline of the Pope’s “jabs” with the experimental mRNA gene therapy and his heath events.

☕️ MEMENTO MORI ☙ Tuesday, April 22, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠

A C&C special edition about Pope Francis’ sudden and unexpected death.

JEFF CHILDERS
APR 22, 2025

“….There’s a lot to say about this generation-defining story. We could, for instance, look at the lying media coverage. Corporate media reports seemed to deliberately miss the mark; they focused on “anguished” believers, when true Christian theology requires celebration at the conclusion of a long life’s work leading the flock. “Absent from the body,” Paul assured us, “together with the Lord.”

Or, we could consider the tectonic political implications. The Pope of Rome is one of the most influential unelected figures on Earth. This one wielded that immeasurable influence far beyond theology, to coordinate secular policies like globalism, technocracy, interfaith, immigration, climate change, and even individual medical choices. In life, Francis was personally involved in nearly every major world event, like the negotiations over Ukraine and the Middle East.

Will his successor double down on politics? Or will he pull back and promote spiritual development over secular worldliness?…”

“…💉 For jab watchers, it could not possibly be more obvious. The Pope’s health problems started within days of his first shot. And he went steadily, painfully downhill, as he continued with his second shot and then his special Fauci booster. And all his conditions reflect things we have learned to expect: systemic autoimmune, inflammatory, neurological, and cardiac conditions— followed by SADS.

💉 It’s interesting to wonder about why Pope Francis stopped at three. Is it possible that, watching the Pope’s rapidly declining health, the Vatican’s doctors got buyer’s remorse? The magical health juice was just producing problems? Either way, just months after its vaccine passport policy started, in 2022, the Vatican quietly added a “natural immunity” exception to its vaccine mandate, which effectively ended it (though it wasn’t formally rescinded till last year)….”

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/memento-mori-tuesday-april-22-2025

Wow…that rabbit hole. Interesting thought.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa

Good meeting. We discussed a lot one on one. Hoping for results on everything we covered. Protecting lives of our people. Full and unconditional ceasefire. Reliable and lasting peace that will prevent another war from breaking out. Very symbolic meeting that has potential to become historic, if we achieve joint results. Thank you @POTUS

So what are you saying Sundance? I don’t understand. Is Trump giving control to the CIA and our voting means nothing? That’s what this sounds like to me. I’m so exhausted from these mysterious CIA people. WHY CAN’T PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST FIRE THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM!!!!! I am so sick of this entire situation! Again I ask, are these CIA people supernaturanl immortal people who cannot be fired because they are not human or are they mere mortals like the rest of us? It feels to me like they are superhuman based on your posts. For the love of God, please can these people be FIRED ONCE AN FOR ALL!!!!

Not following what Sundance is getting at not liking this picture.

Trump and Zelensky took a time out from the Popes funeral to have a one on one meeting to discuss things face to face.

No middle men involved.

Trump said he’d be meeting world leaders in Rome.

Perhaps Trump wanted the world to see how he’s trying to bring peace to Ukraine, which is why it was set up in that location.

Where does the CIA fit into this picture?

If the CIA is an agency of the USA government, where are they getting their money to operate?

Why can’t US taxpayer dollars be ramped back from them?

Really love reading everything Sundance has to say, but there are times he should just spit out what’s on his mind, instead of leaving us trying to guess at it.

Sorry, but very naive to have the assumption that Trump and Putin are closely aligned. The premise that Putin is the good guy here cause Zelensky and co. are obviously the bad guys, is a big fallacy that many politically engaged people fall for.

Trump to solve this has to pull and push both parties here until they are positioned for a deal.

That’s why he is right now challenging Putin, cause Putin and his military are still sacrificing thousands of poor Russians with their ancient inhuman meat waves while keeping the escalation high by sending unguided vodka fuelled “misfirings” into ukrainian cities.

The truth is that both Putin, gaining a few hundred meters a day, and Zelensky laundering money ,have no reason to stop the bloodletting.

Trump knows the scene he sits in and there are many pictures released of it, not just from the Ukrainians. It’s time to pressure Putin..next week Zelensky and so on…until they have no way out to agree to a Trump deal.

“Is Walking Away From Ukraine The Best Option For Trump And The US?”

Yes, it was.

On January 20th like President Trump said he was going to do!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/walking-away-ukraine-best-option-trump-and-us

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The “spontaneity” depicted by the photo is obviously fake. The location is odd and disrespectful, normal people would know that instinctually and would use another room.

I know President Trump is always in danger from these demons, but I fear it has been elevated considerably. We know they will stop at nothing. I will continue to pray for him and add President Putin to that prayer.

The Swiss Guard

During the 17th and 18th centuries the Swiss Guards maintained a reputation for discipline and steadiness in both peacetime service and foreign campaigning. Their officers were all Swiss and their rate of pay was substantially higher than that of the regular French soldiers.[11]

The Guards were recruited from all Swiss cantons. The nominal establishment was 1,600 men though actual numbers seem to have normally been below this.[12] Disciplinary matters were the responsibility of Swiss officers within the regiment, under a code of punishments that was significantly harsher than that of the remainder of the French army.

The most famous episode in the history of the Swiss Guards was their defence of the Tuileries Palace in central Paris during the French Revolution. Of the nine hundred Swiss Guards defending the palace on 10 August 1792, six hundred were killed during the fighting or massacred after they surrendered. One group of sixty Swiss were taken as prisoners to the Paris City Hall before being killed by the crowd there.[13]

An estimated one hundred and sixty more died in prison of their wounds, or were killed during the September Massacres that followed. Apart from less than a hundred Swiss who escaped from the Tuileries, some hidden by sympathetic Parisians, the only survivors of the regiment were a three-hundred-strong[14] detachment that had been sent to Normandy to escort grain convoys a few days before 10 August.[15]

The Swiss officers were mostly massacred, although Major Karl Josef von Bachmann, in command at the Tuileries, was formally tried and guillotined in September, still wearing his red uniform coat. Two Swiss officers, the captains Henri de Salis and Joseph Zimmermann survived, and went on to reach a senior rank under Napoleon and the Restoration.[15]

There appears to be no truth in the charge that Louis XVI caused the defeat and destruction of the Guards by ordering them to lay down their arms when they could still have held the Tuileries. Rather, the Swiss ran low on ammunition and were overwhelmed by superior numbers when fighting broke out spontaneously after the royal family were escorted from the palace to take refuge with the National Assembly. A note written by the King has survived that ordered the Swiss to retreat from the palace and return to their barracks, but they only did so after their position became untenable.[16]

The regimental standards were secretly buried by the adjutant shortly before the regiment was summoned to the Tuileries on the night of 8/9 August, indicating that he foresaw the likely end. They were discovered by a gardener and ceremoniously burned by the new Republican authorities on 14 August.[17] The barracks of the Guard at Courbevoie were stormed by the local National Guard and the few Swiss still on duty there were also killed.[15]

The heroic but futile[13] stand of the Swiss is commemorated by Bertel Thorvaldsen’s Lion Monument in Lucerne, dedicated in 1821, which shows a dying lion collapsed upon broken symbols of the French monarchy. An inscription on the monument lists the twenty-six Swiss officers who died on 10 August and 2–3 September 1792, and records that approximately 760 Swiss Guardsmen were killed on those days.[18]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guards#:~:text=The%20most%20famous%20episode%20in,or%20massacred%20after%20they%20surrendered.

In the big picture, how does PDJT get rid of the CIA?

Also, the picture looks fake.

Satan has controlled the Catholic Church for decades. Pockets of evil have grown for over 2100+ years.

It would be nice to know the names of the control agents referenced here. For that matter, who are the sinister human beings who give life to this intelligence community? Are they all in government, or are some of them outside, in the so-called consultant class?

Hummm. Makes sense. But I think Trump has more control than cia wants to admit. His demeanor is not that of a ‘defeated’ man. I see the punk looking like the spoiled child in the sweat suit, leaning into the President, demanding whatever. And I see Trump not backing up one damn inch. The cia/euros may they think control Trump, but I don’t think they are or can. That is their problem. They have always controlled leaders. They have not stopped doing their dirties, but Trump is not backing up. That is what I see.

I like it when the euro leaders photshop the meeting event to look relevent. They did not phase Trump. They represent the controlled….Trump is not controlled. The cia is not controlling Trump either. Making things difficult? Yes. Control? No.

Pope’s have been known to pass in mysterious ways for 100s of years. The papacy has been wrought with corruption, sadly.

Anyone see Laura Loomers recent post about the Ukraine embassy in DC this am?

Intelligence community members think that they must hide? They’re in plain sight for the millions of Americans who r awake, and have been for decades. The evil, corruption and depravity that originates from these entities can only be eliminated by an act of Divinity at this stage.

The judicial coup is being allowed to proceed w silence from both houses of Congress and partisan, compromised SCOTUS. Johnson and Thune are pathetic bought-and-paid-for man-boys in expensive suits.

20244…

As I got to the end of the article, I found out that either SD read my mind or I read his.
It was the first thing I thought of when the Pope finally succumbed to his illness.

Or maybe after reading here for several years, I have learned a lot.

The Pope has been ill for a long time.

Perhaps the pope was already dead (as many had speculated) and they were just waiting for the right timing to announce his funeral.

JD Vance could have easily met with a ‘body double’ and either called them out on it or it was a sequence of events already in motion.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Where would the chairs come from and why position them almost in the center of the room to have a private conversation? It is a strange picture.

“Can you see the stakes at play for the CIA?”

Then ultimately, what can John Ratcliffe do as the head of the CIA? Crazy that it is expressed that the head of the CIA has zero power…

@sundance i agree with you getting into the weeds thing. I do not put it past the IC to do this. Remember in their warped minds and thinking and how they view ethics and morals, the Pope is an old guy who has lived his full life, they need a new stronge Marxist Pope as well as to get 47 and the other world leaders to meet each other at a geopolitical event. The IC does not care about the Pope he is just one old man. Remember what these evil psychopaths are capable of. They released the Chyna Virus and the bio warfare injections. Millions of people died because of the hype around the Chyna Virus and the injections. As you always say, trillions are at stake

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò Shares Interview with “Fuori dal Coro”
That Was Pulled and Did Not Broadcast| The Gateway Pundit: (excerpts)

“1. Your Excellency, what is your evaluation of Pope Bergoglio?

In recent decades, a subversive lobby has taken over the levers of power in governments and institutions, in order to carry out the anti-Christian and Masonic plan of the Revolution. Government agencies – as we know from what is also emerging in the United States of America – have interfered in the life of various nations, organizing and financing the so-called “Agenda 2030” of the Rockefeller Foundation and the World Economic Forum, which consists in the destruction of the family, the commodification of human life, the moral corruption of children and young people, the exploitation of workers, and the privatization of all those services that until the 1990s were guaranteed – without a motive of profit – by the State: health, infrastructure, defense, communications, education. To carry out this global coup, the collaboration (paid, of course) of corrupt government officials, and of corrupt politicians, doctors, judges, and teachers was necessary. …

Bergoglio’s was a usurpation no more and no less than those that allowed the globalist lobby to impose government leaders under the orders of the Davos Forum in the Italy of Conte and Draghi, the France of Macron, the England of Johnson and Starmer, the Spain of Sanchez, the Ireland of Martin, the Canada of Trudeau, the Australia of Arden, the United States first of the Clintons and Obama and then of Biden, and in the European Union of von der Leyen. All of these leaders did not come to power legitimately, but rather through scheming, electoral fraud, or manipulation of consensus; and they exercise this power against the citizens and against the institutions that they should represent.

And all of these people, without exception, are widely compromised and subject to blackmail, so they are forced to obey if they do not want to see their crimes and perversions brought to light. And neither Bergoglio nor his acolytes are an exception in this regard.

The judgment that any Catholic is led to formulate on this “papacy” – which was not really a Papacy at all but only seemed to be such – cannot but be terrible, from every point of view. The Church of Rome, after these twelve years of tyranny, is devastated by scandals, corruption, violations of human rights – I am thinking of the Agreement with the communist dictatorship of Beijing – and by a failed management on all fronts. The timid criticisms of some Cardinals and Bishops of Bergoglio’s heresies and scandals have in no way dented this global regime that sees the worlds’ rulers as its allies – opposed to the good of both citizens and believers. …

The Pope is not the master of the Church, but rather the Vicar of Christ… A Pope cannot therefore consider himself authorized to “reinvent” the Papacy…

Certainly, the situation is disastrous and humanly without a solution. However, as Bishop and Successor of the Apostles I cannot help but remind everyone that the Church, which is the Mystical Body of Christ, is destined to face the passio Ecclesiæ following the example of the Lord. It will be precisely from this passion – in which everything will seem lost as on that Good Friday 1,992 years ago – that the Church will be reborn, regenerated, and purified.
During these days in which we celebrate Easter, every Catholic finds in Christ’s triumph over death and sin the reasons for their own faithfulness to the Gospel. Our Lord told us, shortly before He faced His Passion: Do not be afraid: I have overcome the world.

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop
April 23, 2025″ …….

(Note: Thanks to Joe Hoft for this interview. I republish without ads, etc, for easy reading. Not because I agree with every point, but because the Bishop’s voice is alive and vital, and needs to heard.)

Rest in the Vine: “Interview with “Fuori dal Coro”” by Archbishop Vigano

Intriguing. Homeric. AI photography.

Everyone pretty much acknowledges Ukraine as a giant money laundry. Hard to ignore that. But was it along the way expanded into a giant weaponry operation supplying some interest other than Ukraine? Weapons are shipped to Ukraine, and then either get shipped out of Ukraine to some other interest, or never get to Ukraine in the first place? The IC has experience in this sort of thing. And the American IC could be involved, or could just look the other way as another IC entity hijacks the shipments.

Is the US still funding and supplying weapons in this conflict? The only thing that matters is that US support stop.

Photo op “peace negotations” while still providing the support that enables it to continue is absurd.

The only ones who should care are Ukraine and Russia. Its on them. The rest is just European nut-job globalists who we also shouldn’t reward with attention and support.

Just stop sending money and supplies and wasting time on the losers. Should not be hard. Peace will follow inevitably.

P.S. Some within the Vatican say the Antipope refused Last Rites, dying the unrepentant marxist-atheist-homosexual he was. Should have been tossed in a garbage dump, not some pretend funeral.

Despite a well written and supported piece, Sundance…those of faith can only pray that the divinity of the locale was a blessing towards ongoing peace efforts. (Despite the efforts of IC)

President Trump Rips Zelensky Over Crimea

Jimmy Dore…

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114405686783835835

I fully expect the Trump administration to end the Russia – Ukraine war, which means the IC really doesn’t control the Trump administration.

Why is President Trump sitting out in the open in a foreign country with no one around him? I don’t think he has anyone watching his back there.

Pope’s lung trouble started decades ago but was stable over the years. His situation went bad when he didnt pray reagrding getting the clot shot when they first came out. His health troubles started a week later and accumulated as he took two more.

For some reason he decided to stop taking clot shots a couple years ago after being a major cheerleader for them. But apparrently the damage was done.

Your 50/50 speculation brings to memory an old meme. Something like,

“Art Bell gets an autopsy, but Anthony Scalia doesn’t?”

I sometimes speculate around two related questions..

1- What would the cabal do to maintain power?
2- Is there anything the cabal would NOT do to maintain power?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Geopolitical.

By the way, does Congress even exist anymore? Pretty much just radio silence on all the issues of the day. No action or legislation being advanced to support the agenda?

Leaving it to Executive Orders which can be undone by the next administration, when they should be encoded as laws.

About all I’ve heard out of Congress is videos of Nancy Mace tangling it up with trangenders.

MAGA people really should be very pissed off at this point. Lots of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

No matter how they try to spin it,,I am going to say,Look at my president.

He will take any opportunity to try and make peace.
He cares not,how it looks,if it will bring peace…..

Ok there’s a meeting….. Yeah but for what, you’re very vague.

It just burns IC biscuits when President DJT says, ” I’m the president, and I ain’t buying what you’re selling!”
This man has upended the world order–
however ‘new’ it is.

This is a Photoshop created photo. Enlarge the photo and take a careful look at the shadow streaks from the legs of the chair underneath Trump.
The shadow streaks from the legs of this chair is very straight and visibly clear.
Now look at the other chair Zelensky sat on. There is no shadow streaks from the legs of the chair Zelensky was on.

and Pope Benedict was blackmailed.

Sundance once wrote…”First seek to understand………”

its truly a complex twisted world….lots of illusion….pretending ..denying…

trying to fully understand what the IC is……….how many faces does the CIA have……who controls what….

it will be a grand day if we ever get to where we do not have to use the term THEY……

and use names.

and a grand day indeed when there is accountability….for the evil done……