From the outset of the Ukraine -vs- Russia conflict I have been saying this is “world war Reddit”. CTH awakens today to this photo, blasting across the geopolitical landscape.
I want you to look carefully at this picture; think about it and elevate yourself to understand exactly what this picture represents in the biggest framework of our ongoing discussion. The image origin: “Photographs released by the Ukrainian presidency showed the two leaders huddled in close discussion without aides in the ornate surroundings of St. Peter’s Basilica.”
This scene is purposefully staged.
This scene is staged by the control agents who control the Ukraine conflict, the intelligence community.
President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump attended the funeral of Pope Francis to pay their respects on the international stage.
Let me be clear. The people around President Trump do not and did not align with this photo-op, it’s genuinely in poor taste and bad form given the nature of the background event, the funeral for Pope Francis. However, fearless President Trump knows exactly what this represents just as businessman Donald Trump knows how the seating is arranged in high stakes business negotiations; the sun at the back of the person wanting to be in the power position.
Again, we should stay elevated and see the bigger picture here because it is incredibly important.
When it comes from CNN, it’s coming from the PR firm of the State Dept., and who controls the State Dept, the CIA.
CNN: How the pope’s funeral format allowed for Trump-Zelensky talk
The meeting occurred just outside the Baptistry Chapel, which is inside St. Peter’s Basilica near its entrance, and the talk hadn’t been telegraphed in advance.
Ahead of the president’s brief visit to Rome, officials had downplayed the prospect he would meet with Zelensky or any other world leaders, pointing to the truncated time frame for the trip and its solemn purpose of memorializing the late pope.
Trump had originally selected Saudi Arabia for his first stop abroad of his new term and will visit there next month. But when Francis died those plans changed, and instead Trump made his first foreign stop in Europe, a continent he’s railed against frequently.
The seating chart and crush of fellow leaders made brief interactions possible, including with leaders Trump had seemingly been avoiding since taking office. He engaged briefly with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, with whom he hadn’t spoken at all since returning to office amid trade and defense disputes with the European Union. [SOURCE]
President Trump, a man of respectful honor, indeed would expect to engage in polite and quiet conversation with Zelenskyy, Macron, Starmer et al, at the funeral. Yes, he would quietly have a conversation in a private room with the principals to quickly discuss political affairs. That’s his style. That’s the way he operates, retaining focus and respect toward the purpose of the gathering, holding quick conversation in private and retaining emphasis on the purpose.
THIS IS NOT THAT.
This is a stage set for the optics of a geopolitical conflict that involves Ukraine and Russia, and this stage is set up by the same controlling agents who have been in control of the events since the outset. This stage is why CTH instinctively knew the conflict was World War Reddit.
What are we seeing?
The intelligence communities’ control western government. The government does not control the intelligence communities. This reality is the core of the great awakening that reconciles every facet of the conflict present and visible.
When things do not make sense; when things are unnatural and fraught with irreconcilable datapoints stemming from traditional perspectives that no longer align with what is visible; that’s because the intelligence apparatus is in control of it. Every example you can cite returns to this basic truth.
All of the western government systems, the “new democracy” as it is called, stem from a radically different construct. The intelligence services control the government; the government does not control the intelligence services.
The conflict in Ukraine exists because western intelligence services are controlling it. The reality is this “war” is not the Russian government -vs- the governments of various western nations in support of Ukraine. The true conflict is the western intelligence community vs the Russian government.
Vladimir Putin does not hate Americans. The Russian President hates the CIA.
When envoy Steve Witkoff is representing President Trump in his discussions with Vladimir Putin, Witkoff and Trump represent the government. However, the government is not the real control agent and Putin together with Trump/Witkoff know this.
Vladimir Putin and Donald J Trump are mutually aligned entities in a fight against western intelligence services. That’s the core understanding that must be at the forefront of any review or intellectually honest analysis of what is taking place.
The vulnerability within the position of the Western Intel Services, is that they must hide this reality. The IC must retain the illusion that government is in control of geopolitical events, because if that control mask is dropped everything changes. And I do mean EVERYTHING.
Everything that was irreconcilable suddenly starts to make sense when you accept that government is not in control, the government does not have the power. The intelligence services control government and the intel agencies are currently the source of geopolitical power. The politicians are the illusion of representative democracy that must be retained.
That’s what this image should represent to everyone!
….”Once you see the strings on the marionettes you can never return to that moment in the performance when you did not see them.”….
♦ If the United States President pulls all USA support away from Ukraine and instructs all elements of the USA government to withdraw support for the conflict, and yet the conflict continues with ongoing CIA operations, then what does that say about who really is in control?
Can you see the stakes at play for the CIA?
♦ When Marco Rubio says, repeatedly now, that “this is not our war” and “we didn’t start this war,” having previously asserted, “It’s been very clear from the beginning that President Trump views this as a protracted, stalemated conflict,” Rubio said. “And frankly, it’s a proxy war between nuclear powers, the United States helping Ukraine, and Russia,” is the former Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee being honest now, or is Secretary of State Rubio attempting to clean up the inconvenient truth he said originally?
Can you see the stakes for the CIA?
I digress…
There are corporations and financial systems that intersect with the politicians; and those politicians are controlled by the Intelligence Community.
That is the very essential baseline for The Great Awakening!!
[ps. If you really wanted to join me in the rabbit hole; and knowing how important this moment is to the control agents; meaning how much they needed to get back control after Trump threatened to walk away from the conflict; then please accept I am 50/50 on how Pope Francis died. Was it really a natural death or was it the result of the IC needing a geopolitical event -like a funeral- to bring all of the principal actors together.]
Ruder Fin and the globalist Clinton admin & Nato nazi campaigns against the Serbs has loads of fakers which I have shown here over the years. They orwellianly turned the whole true history of WWII in the Balkans upside down and turned Holocaust victims Serbs into Nazis. Zelensky is the new Bosnian Islamist Izetbegovic and the Russians the demonized Serbian people. Our real friends and allies.
Well what were a few or tens of thousands of dead Slavs in the furtherance of globalism and its religion of choice: Islam? Much like what are a few or millions of dead Slavs to get their grubby hands on Russian resources and land?
NATO- Globalist- CFR Clinton/bush/Obama administration’s achieved what the Nazis tried to do to the Serbian people in yugoslavia in WWII. Look up op Punishment
Well since Francis was likely the end result of the Vatican coup wanted during the Obama administration as a means to further globalism/ one world government, his death may have been the result of furthering the same people’s goals. Much like Bin Laden.
I’m not sure what the photo op gets them or who it influences.
The photo got them the appearance that the elected politicians are in control.
It caused me to think initially that Trump is telling Z something he could not say publicly, knowing the CIA has Z wearing a wire.
As a photo op it is a huge failure. They easily could have used another room, all this photo shows is disrespect.
I don’t either
Hhhhhhh. So huge to wrap my head around. This is all about money and power. They don’t care how they get there. Im 50/50 with you on this as well. When it was reported, I had a very suspicious feeling. I always say, and will say it again. Look here not over there. I pray for the safety of everyone involved.
These machinations are above my head.
Considering that the intelligent communities (all of them) can no longer control the entire narrative, will President Trump be able to fulfil President Kennedy’s wish of “breaking the CIA into a thousand pieces”?
Putin will be indispensable in this effort I think. The IC has gone through a lot of plotting and scheming to keep them from working together on any matters of mutual interest.
Yes they can still control the entire narrative that at least half the country will accept as gospel.
I do sorely hope PDJT can accomplish some of JFK’s target of dissassembling the IC. I just don’t expect any miracles in American politics. And a miracle is exactly what it will take to crush any of the nazi globalist hounds on any level.
Then be sure to pray fervently, because only The Lord can deliver miracles.
Best of all, He longs to unite with us in good purpose.
Miracles aren’t fiction. They happen every day. So pray.
It should be obvious by now that Zelensky is simply playing for time and has no intention of ending the war with Russia as long as we’re paying for it!
Trump Unleashes More Anger, Frustration At Zelensky For Not Signing Rare Earths Deal | ZeroHedge
On Friday there’s been more public, out in the open tension on display between Presidents Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky. Trump once again chastised the Ukrainian leader for apparently refusing to sign the controversial rare earths deal.
US administration officials had last week previewed that they expected it to be signed this week, which generated many anticipatory headlines, but there’s as yet nothing to show for it, and the reports proved premature.
“Ukraine, headed by Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has not signed the final papers on the very important Rare Earths Deal with the United States. It is at least three weeks late,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-unleashes-more-anger-frustration-zelensky-not-signing-rare-earths-deal
The rare earth minerals deal is increasingly appearing to be the football Lucy keeps pulling from Charlie.
Aren’t the majority of the UKR resources in the East under Russian control? The minerals deal the UKR signed with the UK must then be worthless.
Almost as if they fabricated a means to claim a stake in lands forever safe in Russian hands.
Pope Francis died because VP Vance visited with him. Everybody knows that.
Vance was framed! The butler did it with a candlestick in the library.
Oh. Now I see.
The Pope was someone who had lung damage, who had double pneumonia recently. In the first reports of his death, respiratory insufficiency was mentioned, and a photo of him leaving the hospital showed him using oxygen.
On his final day, I saw photos of the Pope at mass, riding in the popemobile, and talking to Vice President Vance. I noticed, not what was present in the photos, but what was absent: the Pope was not breathing oxygen from a tank or generator in these photos. Since there isn’t enough information to speculate whether the Pope did or did not need oxygen on his last day, I think it merely odd he was not taking it.
All smoke and mirrors, falsehood and deceit. God help us!
The Pope has a large bruise on the left side of his face.
a fall from ….
Harry Reid had a bruise on his face…..
“There are corporations and financial systems that intersect with the politicians; and those politicians are controlled by the Intelligence Community.”
For most of them it is simply greed. But for the Intelligence Community it is about preserving an oligarchy that knows no national boundaries.
That is the very essential baseline for The Great Awakening!!
Whether you think the deep state is trying to use President Trump here or not, this picture conveys to me the scene from the Godfather where everyone seeks out the blessing of the Don.
President Trump is in charge and there is no doubt about that.
How can President Trump and the CIA both be in control? If the CIA is in control then President Trump can do nothing. If President Trump is in control why doesn’t he just go ahead and do what he wants? I don’t get it.
Ask yourself these two questions:
Does President Trump deal in illusions or in facts and truth?
Does the IC, especially the CIA, deal in facts and truth or in illusions and false narratives?
Once you answer those questions, you’ll understand the nature and the reality of the “control“ that the IC has (in reality).
Hint: Those who are not fooled by the illusions and false narratives are also unable to be controlled by the intelligence community.
Those who ARE fooled and believe the illusions and false narratives put forth by the intelligence community ARE able to be controlled by them.
It depends if you are a q follower or not. 😁
Eric Ciaramela is in control.
Him and the Vindman twins.
It is not a good image for the American President to be in an equal parley with a Midget beggar that got him impeached and likely was linked to two assassination attempts. However, the Godfather movie is a good reminder here: “Remember Michael, the one who comes asking for a sit down meeting is the traitor”. Trump knows who asked for the meeting, and that is the traitor.
To me the photo called to mind the Priest listening to the “confession” of the penitent. The Priest being the dominant and the penitent being submissive. NOT saying Trump was hearing Slinky Malinky’s confession, just saying what that imagery called to mind to me.
I agree. President Trump is in charge. Remember back in the run up to the 2024 election, he said he didn’t need the intel briefings. He refused them. He said his intel was better than theirs anyways.
President Trump and his team are big on optics. Not sure what the optics are here, but President Trump is in complete control of the staging.
Also, I noticed he’s the only one in the entire gathering who is wearing a lighter color blue suit. All the other suits are darker. I’m sure there is a reason for that as well.
I honestly believe the pope was captured a while ago. Lots of theater and coincidental timing. Too coincidental.
Fixed photo for intelligence community…
Zelensky in the confessional
Every single organization with power influence and financial resources has been corrupted and will remain so until they are purged of the corrupting influences.
We all need to pray to God for the safety and success of the only person on this earth who we cal really Trust.
I will forever be in your debt Mr. President.
Thanks for your bravery and courage patriotism and common decency.
I know you didn’t need to do this .
I join you in thanking God for preserving Trump’s life so he could serve.
Bad style regardless to use someone’s funeral to further your own interests (its bad form if its someone you love and even if it is the Pope)
Second, talking about Zelensky and “representative Democracy” one probably could not find a worse comparison at this point in time. Zelensky’s term expired in May 2024. He cancelled elections, political parties, the opposition and religion.
He is where he is by martial raw. and because someone installed him there, not based on his merits.
Now if this is the image of “Democracy” our politicians want to sell us, we should take a hard pass on this.
By analogy this is like having a wild bobcat represent the Vegetarian Association.
The last and most unlikely one would expect.
But up is down, left is right, war is peace.
Agree…a funeral, no matter the identity of the deceased, is NO place for a political meeting OF ANY KIND. Zelenskyy is a punk and his reign of terror can’t come to an end soon enough. He has decimated his country for future generations and he can NOT be forgiven for that.
As for the “timely however untimely death of a pope…meh. In my mind, there will never be another Pope John Paul II. He was truly loved around the world and did not divide as the last 2 have done (of course, in my opinion)
It will never shock me to learn of the activities of the 3-letter agency based in Virginia…they will do ANYTHING to stoke chaos and take control.
Agree!
To have political or business meetings
during a funeral is just wrong.😠
Deciding Christian Orthodox life and death by a Protestant and a Jew in the cradle of Catholicism is what Vatican II passes as ecumenism. The CIA gave Russia a big slap in the face. Don’t poke the Bear. FAFO.
“a funeral, no matter the identity of the deceased, is NO place for a political meeting OF ANY KIND.”
UNLESS you want to have a private conversation without eavesdropping devices planted in a room…
Heard there’s microphones embedded in the floor.
They were not tapping their feet….
Which is why president Trump should not have met with him there.
OK I can’t get this clear (and I did read the article). How does the photo (op) specifically relate to the IC?
Perhaps the question is, “Who on earth thought this was a good idea and why?” It’s obviously a highly tampered-with arrangement. That kind of scene, in the Vatican, simply could not spontaneously happen.
Here’s video of the meeting set-up…note pre-arranged multiple chairs. And then extra chair removed…
Thanks…good to see!
Does that added context change the apparent media use of the photo with just the two of them?
Bad optics for the USA. I think the Vatican had a hand in it too. The Peronista Pope hated our Nation.
My thoughts exactly. It’s a ridiculous image bearing no resemblance at all to the realities of anything, except as subliminal TDS propaganda.
What struck me in that brief Visegrad24 clip was that Macron seemed to be attempting to insert himself into a set-piece round table for three, but President Trump made sure he wasn’t going to join him and Zelensky.
Watch PDJT’s right hand. After initially stopping Macron with a palm on his chest, his back of the hand gestures plainly indicate that Macron is not invited to participate any further. The Vatican person was as nimble in front of the camera as the guy who shielded Hillary’s 9/11/16 van exit.
Me too Grannie.
I’m with you on the whole 50/50 bet on the Pope.
Although I kept it to myself out of respect, I did not buy his dying less than 24 hrs after receiving prominent guests.
He did not at all look like someone near death.
Plus, nothing would surprise me regarding the lengths the CIA would go to, in furthering their goals.
Like Queen Elizabeth met with the female PM – that was removed within days of the Queen’s death.
The Pope dying on Easter is a bit too on brand- of the IC kind.
They needed him to die at the proper time.
The man was 88 years old. People much younger than that have died suddenly.
The pope likely died months ago if not longer than that and they waited for the timing that best suits them
May I suggest though, that if we really start looking into optics as symbolism, then there are countless images and other inferences by Trump himself that he knows exactly who the enemy is. The deep state globalist elites who are the embodiment and pawns of the principalities of evil.
Trump knows. Putin knows. We the people are starting to see who the real enemy is.
Until the curtain drops we will be forever enslaved and under the spell. Ukraine is starting to signify the curtain itself.
The pope did not likely die months ago. Come on.
You don’t think that’s possible?
You don’t think it’s odd that he essentially died on Easter Sunday?
He was in the hospital for weeks and weeks with pneumonia.
So it’s possible for the deep state to control the masses in a coordinated COVID pandemic but this is out of the real of possibilities?
Then who did jd meet with?
nobody?
photoshopped?
met with him months ago but photos appear to be “on” Easter sunday??
As a conspiracy nut all I can say is….go back to sleep Millennial.
Real classy.
Sundance is suggesting that the pope may have been eliminated for the simple purpose of a foreign congregation. But my comment is outrageous?
I’ve been here a while. I’ve never bashed anybody because we are all independent thinkers here and see that the world isn’t what it seems.
A little one liner to bash millennials is immature. And I’m the younger one here.
It might be good to at least be hopeful that not all millennials are worthless.
No, I don’t.
Not everything is a conspiracy theory.
Who arranged this sit down? There lies the snake.
Godfather; Listen, whoever comes to you with this Barzini meeting,
https://clip.cafe/the-godfather-1972/whoever-comes-you-with-barzini-meeting/
How is this control exerted?
Bribery, Blackmail/Kompromat, Lawfare, Media smear campaigns/hatchet jobs, ‘Active-Measures Surveillance’ (ie: harassment/intimidation), and much, much else besides… – “6 ways from Sunday”…
…- And if alla the above doesn’t cut it, a round or two of .338 Lapua, sent express special delivery from the nearest convenient ‘Grassy Knoll’, will always serve to “git ‘er done”.
Is the IC a bit like the democrat party? In their perpetual adolescence, they continue to make things happen that don’t make sense and sometimes the intended audience instinctively cringes a little without always knowing why. The intended audience is not instinctively impressed.
That photo makes absolutely no sense How stupid. Like a world leader and a twit would actually pull two ornate chairs together in a vast physical space so they could look important…. (well, the twit would perhaps love it…) Who knew where to find the chairs in the vast Vatican confines and get permission to unlock the doors, take the chairs out, and arrange this public rendezvous?
Seriously, what did the IC intend to convey by the photo? POTUS Trump does not function like that…”Hey, Twit, let’s grab these chairs and sit way out there and look like like we’re talking.”
They have never known. Would they?
“It is a great thing to know oneself to be nothing before God”
It is a great thing to know oneself to be nothing before God, because that is how things are.
MacPepper posted a Twit with video of everyone preparing the set-up, above. If anyone knows about photo-ops, it’s PDJT – and his instincts are impeccable. He wasn’t tricked.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with it. The Pope was a VERY political man. This was an ideal moment for President Trump to have a few words with Little Z, and I hope he laid down the law.
I saw the photo as an opportunity for PDJT to demonstrate to Z how far Z has fallen. Instead of being in a grand room with a huge walnut table, he is in a rotunda on cheap office chairs with no table and just PDJT talking to him.
They’re both tools in the grand scheme of NWO, classically speaking. In that sense the demoncrat party and the IC are one and the same.
Consider that the CIA have always recruited and promoted from Academia, which of course is a primary breeding ground (or finishing school) for crazy leftists of every variety.
Again Zelenskyy, the Churchill of the Ukraine, meets his betters in a gym suit. How about wearing a tie for a State Funeral?
Too reminiscent of the noose awaiting him?
In the sense that both have allowed themselves to become tools of The Enemy in exchange for Earthly power; yes, they are absolutely kin.
It doesn’t matter the guise it enters by, the message to the people who aspire to such positions is the same; “You can be God. Do as you will.”
And if you have a God-shaped hole in your soul, what you will is either to cast all the worldly things away in genuine pursuit of Him -or- to seek out more and greater sins to prove you are the god the Father of Lies told you that you were.
The ones in power of those places are the latter.
The losing side of a war will never set the terms of peace negotiations. The US is very much part of the losing side of this war, so I think it’s rather ridiculous how they see themselves as a mediator in this conflict, moreover in a position to set demands over the Russians, whom they have tried everything they possibly could through proxies to destroy.
https://x.com/Persona_SB_/status/1908839254186193300
The above is an X post that I saw the other day, it has been highlighted in this Ron Paul Liberty Report on why President Trump will never solve the war in Ukraine.
At about the 20:43 mark, the most important point IMO is made, “this is the US war against Russia, Ukraine just happens to be in the middle”.
Being as President Trump knows this now, if he didn’t before, and Marco Rubio certainly was aware of this before these negotiations started, I don’t understand how these talks have been ‘progressing’ as if there is something different going on.
What’s the point?
Here’s Why Trump Will Never Solve The War In Ukraine
https://rumble.com/v6sim59-heres-why-trump-will-never-solve-war-in-ukraine.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Peace is the Prize.
What that peace looks like is what is being worked out.
It’s much more than simply a recent battlefield, it’s a vast ancient plot.
The end of the shooting is not the end of hostilities.
The Derp sought demilitarized zone will never be; the long cultivated division from Russia will be no more.
Restoring what was long denied our two peoples, against the warrings of the entire Global Derp State, is what our Champion seeks.
Once you accept the war is NOT the US vs. Russia, but the Intelligence Community vs. Russia (and the free people of the world) then the answer is clear.
Russia isn’t winning the real war; just winning a battle in the ongoing effort to enslave the world. Even if they win here the war itself will continue.
President Trump, as representative of the American people (another group the IC is at war with), is seeking an alliance with Russia against our mutual enemy.
The “peace talks” are merely the guise to turn this into a joint war against the true enemy one The American people and Russia may together be able to win.
Genau!
There is a bigger war at play, one more vast and dark than most can imagine, more ancient than few are capable of contemplating.
The prize sought by our American and Russian Presidents is bright beyond belief.
I can’t look at Zelensky in the Vatican with any seriousness- after what he did to churches and clergy- using COVID as cover.
And didn’t the Pope tell Catholics it was their “moral duty” to take the vaccines?
Statistically, with or without the world’s finest health care, he was past his longevity date at the age of 88. He was hospitalized for a serious ailment and struggled thru those weeks with a few serious setbacks. IF during that time, he had a cardiac arrest, statistically, that increases the odds of him dying within 30 days or so.
IMHO The photo was in extremely poor taste and the meeting should have been held in a small office somewhere.
The rest, is over my paygrade.
Seems, in the picture, that President Trump is hanging on every word spoken by Z. President Trump is slightly slumped while Z is erect and in control. That’s what I see. That, behind the scenes, President Trump is eager to do the will of Z. That is the view I get from this picture. Is it even a real picture?
Trump’s posture is the same posture you would see when he does the oval office press briefs with Heads of State…as we see regularly from the front rather than the side. Go back and review these public images.
We also see this posture when he is speaking or listening with intensity regarding any subject.
Your supposition indicates Trump is a fool.
Informed people know otherwise.
Far from it. Respect is fully given to President Trump. I was trying to see what an enemy wanted people to see. A sort of abstract. Its not my belief at all.
President Trump’s posture is dictated by the fact that he is a big guy sitting in a tiny chair talking to a much smaller man.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Thought we were suppose to look at it and see what we thought. Never dreamed my thoughts had to be exact. Sorry I bothered.
President Trump knows exactly what is going on and why.
That is why Steve Witkoff is his emissary to Russia.
President Putin also knows this.
I trust President Trump and President Putin has agreed to this scenario to play out on purpose.
Also I expect that President Trump and President Putin are fully aware of Pope Francis’s cause of death.
Are we all so naive as to believe that the only intelligence is that of our 4th branch?
Long before President Trump’s entrance into the political arena, he was known for his superior intelligence embedded into his business world.
I will continue watching and praying that President Trump and President Putin complete this intelligence operation and expose’, while tearing down those tangled branches building the wall, including the 4 branch, that was constructed under lobama.
He must fundamentally destroy that very diseased branch, even if it means cutting down the entire tree.
“Long before President Trump’s entrance into the political arena, he was known for his superior intelligence embedded into his business world.”
I bet even here in the Treehouse the majority do not understand the significance of this sentence.
I agree with the last paragraph
Ditto that, Blue Water Fox!!
Not to be contrarian, but Mr Putin has a similar degree of intelligence and insight. He was KGB for long years, historian as well as political operator. His thesis was on 20th century Russia and the collaspe of the Soviet Union.
Both he and President Trump seem quite well matched.
Well matched?
I’d say yes they are, if you mean matched as natural allies against the IC that wants both destroyed along with the nations each loves so much.
Once you understand the enemy isn’t Putin, but a long-rogue IC that’s been instigating conflicts across the globe for decades to accumulate wealth and power for themselves then a lot more of the world makes sense.
🎯
Agree with your explanation 1000% AS.
Trump is in control. No on else.
Well, ….God.
God called and President Trump answered.
50/50 on the timing of the passing, given the underlying health issues it was always a given (in my mind) the Pope was not long for this realm for long, and was actually very surprised he hung on as long as he did; and – that black eye being made very, in our faces visible (who does open caskets anymore?) seemed like a message (to whom, not quite sure but leaning toward orangemanbad).
In seeing the short video clips of President Trump, Zelensky, Macron and Starmer I got the impression it was President Trump telling Starmer and Macron to get their little puppet Zelinsky in line – the war is over and done with – and once Pres. Trump had conveyed that message he was willing to do the photo op with Zelensky, but on his, Trump’s terms, not the IC’s terms as originally there were four chairs brought out with the intention of having all four men be photographed in a ‘serious discussion’, instead the photo op is President Trump telling Zelensky time to move on.
But that’s how it came across to me since the video of the 4 men lasted mere seconds and next thing we see were only 2 chairs in that space so got that impression of Pres. Trump telling France and England to knock it off.
Yes, pretty sure you’re right, Bessie. Not having seen a clip with 4 chairs set out, I’d thought it was intended as a 3-man sit down and that PDJT’s body language indicated him warning off Macron, first with a palm against his chest, then using the back of his hand to exclude Macron from further intervention.
At that point I hadn’t realised that the fleeting glimpse of the back of Starmer actually IS him and, if I were a gambler I’d lay money on it, not same person as the chair arranger at the start of the clip. Frustratingly edited, these clips, eh!
I am not buying that this was staged at all.
The two of them apparently had several discussions while they were there. All of the witnesses’ stories match up.
The point.
You missed it.
Some people will never get it, they can’t think that way.🖖🏻
That’s the most staged pic I ever saw. In the middle of a great room or hall. Why not a private room behind closed doors? I’m sure there are plenty there.
Also, the staged applause when Zelensky entered the funeral to take his seat. Did anyone catch that? Come on.
I thought the same thing.
Schoolhouse Rock—The President is Commander in Chief of the military and Congress declares war and funds the war effort. We the people hold these elected officials responsible through free and fair elections.
Non-Pretending Reality—The CIA is in control of all of the above-including elections. We The People are regarded as suckers and patsies.
Pray continually, speak truth at all times, and do not comply with the BS pretending.
Unconditional Ceasefire
is that the new term for
Unconditional Surrender?
/s
To use a Funeral as PR to get out
talking points…crass.
😟 😖 😖 😡 🤬
Don’t forget the “Willing”
🧐
Hadn’t realized it but you’re right, goalposts continue to be moved.
“Unconditional Ceasefire
is that the new term for
Unconditional Surrender?
/s”
Agree, quite the word smithing narrative build, eh?
How can a cease fire happen without conditions? It can’t! Conditions are what make up a ceasefire–Just ask Z, he keeps adding more or refusing to accept other conditions!
He just dropped in to find out what condition his condition was in.
Kenny Rogers and The First Edition.
Before I read your lines,
” Was it really a natural death or was it the result of the IC needing a geopolitical event -like a funeral- to bring all of the principal actors together.]”
I wondered about something similar but was more about tariffs than the Russia/Ukraine war. How convenient.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1916043525575119281
I have consistently asked the question “who controls the intelligence agencies that control world governments?” in my posts here and on other platforms. These posts rarely (if ever) make it out of the censorship process and into public view which tells me the oligarchs’ control over public discourse is greater than we imagine. The only place I see uncensored comments is on ZeroHedge but globalist trolls abound on that platform probably to diminish credibility.
Trivially, I presume the IC to be controlled by the Globalista Bankster/’Gark class – I think there’s *Abundant* solid evidence that, *At The Very Least*, they are, *Always And Everywhere*, the principal beneficiaries of most every IC operation, the world over.
Less trivially, I think that the IC (at least at the 7th-floor C-suite Executive level) probably has a somewhat more than equal seat at the table, where this relationship is concerned, than the trivial view affords, given the IC’s ability to run espionage/surveillence, obtain Kompromat dirt, and undertake blackops/’wet-work’ operations on just about anybody and everybody *At The Drop Of A Hat*.
Even less trivially, the IC-Bankster/’Gark relationship is likely even more complex, involving a substantial degree of interpenetration/cross-polination and overlap. A couple of examples: – 1) Allen Dulles was a corporate lawyer for Wall Street at the law firm Sullivan & Cromwell (John Foster Dulles was its Chairman, incidentally), before becoming Director of the CIA; – 2) Tech Oligarch Peter Thiel and Palantir’s main line of business.
I think it’s even simpler than that. All of the above are just fellow travelers because one way or another they’ve sold themselves to The King of This World and that evil spirit’s only goal is to drag as many people away from The Lord as possible; giving earthly power to some, crushing the hopes of others.
And yet, here is your post for all to see, here on this platform!
I love reading all the censored posts here!
😉
Why? Why? Why Mr. President, would you carve out time from a nonpolitical event to meet with the disingenuous little troll Zelenskyy?
His goal is to embarrass the US on the world stage by offering to negotiate while having a fixed mind to reject any and all compromise.
Sorry to tell you, the Pope was political.
No nattering nabobs of negativity just Trump putting a deal together
With the sun at his back I hope President Trump told Zelensky, ” May Day the money stops, May Day the Weapons stop, May Day the Critical Minerals deal will be completed, and finally May Day the Deep State needs a force reduction of 50%. The IC Silos have too many people and idle hands make mischief.
But does it change the calculus for Trump?
SD, reading your post, I searched and found this. I find this interesting/not sure how relevant to this thread/ or, history repeats itself when the world has not learned its lessons. Gonna need time to read all of it and verifiable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/j2hlm/world_war_1_explain_like_im_5/
Then Trump should have waited for a private mtg.
A passing thought…
I find myself wondering who nearest to President Trump proposed or agreed to his curious setup for a Zelensky conversation. Someone had to surely…
Close enough that President Trump would accept the advice (if it were indeed given) ?
I can only pray it was not President Trump himself.
Pope Francis’ funeral live …. for those who want a link
https://www.ewtn.com/tv/watch-live
I was able to obtain a screenshot of PDJT when Pope Francis’ casket was being brought back into the Cathedral .. soon after the clergy have entered. PDJT the first of politicians to be seen.
I have no way to upload it here. Hopefully SD has it;-)
The one optic I don’t want to see is President Trump visiting the Ukraine!!! Hopefully he knows not to do that!!!! President Trump tell Zelenskyy to accept the peace deal you and Putin agree to!!! End this war now!!! If no agreement by Zelenskyy then pull all funding and military aid!!! JMO
That is the most ill concieved photo, staged or otherwise.
“Pull up a chair President Trump, I need to talk about our negotiations.” Said the guy on the losing end of any ongoing negotiations.
And the President went along with it?
This picture speaks to me of treachery on the part of the warmongers to maintain US participation until they can trigger the desired WWIII
Why would President Trump agree to this? What does he gain?
It’s not just the CIA. It’s the CIA, MI6 and the Mossad.
The Unholy Trinity.
Choreographed, right down to the particular frame & vantage point used. Z-man looking serious, resolute, and doing the talking while President Trump listens. As SD admonishes, some must re-examine or “flip” their premises when they’re not getting the answers that support their eyes. It must sometimes be a 180° flip – like positing, “What if the dog really brings the ball back because the dog thinks you enjoy throwing it?”
If the globalist cabal can stage/fake a global pandemic, then faking a foreign war would be no problem.
Reading this is quite depressing. Until I see the actual words from Sundance that President Trump, as head of the government, controls the intelligence community and not the other way around, there is little hope for We the People.
Only We the People can fix this!!!🇺🇲
50/50 a natural passing?
So if Almighty God has not called him home are we then to assume that the next Pope has already been selected and will thus be enthroned?
My guess is that is, given what Sundance has written here, exactly what will happen if He has not… or in fact has already happened. Just the protocols to be finessed.
Archbishop Viganò has spoken often of the Deep State/Deep Church.
The spiritual war being waged against Almighty God through His malignant enemies is no longer hidden.
With all of this the miasma of evil hangs heavily in the air.
“Archbishop Viganò has spoken often of the Deep State/Deep Church”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/26/the-awakening-look-carefully-at-this-picture/comment-page-2/#comment-11746297
Wouldn’t be the first time in recent history they decided to bump off one Pope in favour of a more preferable other, Betsy…
…- John Paul I comes to mind, ostensibly assassinated in connection with the Vatican Bank/Banco Ambrosiano scandal and the sprawling rat’s-nest of correlated intrigues associated with it…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banco_Ambrosiano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi
…- I commented here a year or so ago about Signore Calvi, found swinging from Blackfriars Bridge in London one summer’s morning in 1982 (Spoiler: It wasn’t suicide)… – This ain’t a rabbit-hole so much as a whole damn rabbit-warren: – Corrupt clergy, corrupt pols, banksters, the CIA, neo-nazi freemasons* (*No, Seriously*), the Mafia, Operation Gladio and Italy’s ‘Years of Lead’, all wrapped up together in a giant ‘Spooky’ bow…
(*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due)
I am relatively au fait with historical events, and I do remember the horror on Blackfriars Bridge. But time has dimmed a lot of it. There are multitudinous dark recesses within the history of all religions. I wonder how much we actually know of them that there aren’t exponentially more of which only Almighty God knows.
Thank you for the links, Sarge. I shall read them.
Thanks, Betsy… – I recommend you hold your nose on this deep dive…
…- A couple more spicy hot-takes:
https://www.thearticle.com/vatican-spies-faith-secrecy-and-scandal
https://www.transcend.org/tms/2019/01/operation-gladio-the-unholy-alliance-between-the-vatican-the-cia-and-the-mafia
…- Historical note 1: – What the CIA/Euronazis trial-ballooned with Gladio in Italy during the ‘Years of Lead’ they later took as a blueprint and exported it *Wholesale* to pretty much the entirety of Latin America under the aegis of ‘Operation Condor’ (cf: – Nazi Junta regimes, ‘Death Squads’, One-way helicopter trips over the Atlantic for any hapless proles who happened to ‘step out of line’, ‘The Disappeared’ (see, eg: Argentina’s ‘Dirty War’…))
…- Historical note 2: – Note that, within the context of the Istituto per le Opere di Religione/Banco Ambrosia affair, the CIA were *Indirectly* bankrolling not only the Solidarity movement in Poland (*Big* reason why JPII was elected Pope, btw) but also the Nicaraguan Contras… – Just prior to that, it is alleged they were also bankrolling, by way of the same Vatican Bank (IOR) cut-out *Both* the Somoza regime *And* the Sandinistas simultaeneously, so yeah… – Let *that* soak for a minute…
…- Historical note 3: – Around this time, CIA also used their Vatican platform/in-road into Latin America to reputationally and functionally destroy the so-called ‘Liberation Theology’ that became *Massively Popular* (for fairly obvious reasons) within Latin America during the Operation Condor years.
Sundance often speaks somewhat cryptically, which perhaps much more “connected” persons correctly interpret ; however for those of us less so, interpretations and analogies are lost.
For example, the “story” of the State Dept. being the restaurant and the CIA being the kitchen is very interesting, BUT I had always, since first read long ago, interpreted the “Israel has a seat in the kitchen” statement to mean Israel is much less respected than the rest of the world and thus “relegated” to the kitchen. Only very recently have I reconsidered it to mean Israel is extremely privileged and thus is part of all of the recipes being cooked up.
Shame on me, if I’m the only idiot who missed this.
On to this post, so what’s the point of the photo ? Merely to make the public illusion that Trump is in fact in charge while he really isn’t ? Does that actually accomplish anything ?
What, if anything was accomplished (by the IC) by bringing these leaders together, albeit briefly ?
I don’t use social media whatsoever and barely know what Reddit is. Been there a couple times while searching/researching a few things and found it useless for my purposes.
I am but a simple engineer who likes “explicit-icity” and “black n white.”
Would have liked it if Sundance had addressed the questions I raised…….
I don’t know what Reddit is. Will have to look it up.
It tries (and *Epically* fails) to be 4chan for blue-haired crazies…
…- You’ll want to take a pair of waders and a clothespeg for your nose if you decide to pay a visit there, Sharon, trust me.
Reddit is a social news aggregation, internet forum, and social media platform where users submit content like links, text posts, images, and videos, which are then voted up or down by other members.
When Jesus entered the Temple and threw out the money changers, the world changed.
When President Trump entered the Vatican, the world changed.
He has sounded forth the trumpets that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of all before his judgement seat;
O be swift, my soul, to answer him; be jubilant my feet!
Our God is marching on.
“When President Trump entered the Vatican, the world changed.”
Huh? How? Looks to me like Zelensky was just being his usual pesty self and talked President Trump into a one-on-one sitdown. I assume the Mr Trump just told him to get his act together quickly and accept the terms that Putin has agreed to. I hope he also said, “If you don’t in three days, all US funding and technical support for the war will cease, and you’re on your own.”
If the IC controls all, where do they keep their money? How is it distributed without leaving a trail or creating questions? Whereas I can see how they control many people and institutions, but they must have a stash of it that is separate from what they can master USAID or State to do I would think?
I’ve heard they make their unaccounted for dark money from global drug and human trafficking.
all this sort of stuff does is raise Zelensky’s status above floor-sweeper (no offense to anyone that sweeps floors, BTW).
It’s no different than that ghetto trash with white-girl hair challenging Trump to an IQ test. Trump has plenty of capable surrogates. Let them handle the response or simply ignore. Not one more dollar of intelligence, weapons or cash to this corrupt money-laundering state. Western ruling-class people have gotten plenty rich on what has already been provided. How much richer do you need to be?
I agree too this was in bad taste given the funeral of a world-wide religious leader. I thought this pope was a creep, but don’t piss on his funeral service with a staged photo-op.
No class.
“…I am 50/50 on how Pope Francis died.”
After beginning to read this essay…..that was my very thought regarding the rapid change after Vance had a meeting with the Pope. At least I am in good company.
If the worst….are reminder to them all about which organization wishes to be in control??
Confirms Z is a CIA operative. Sucks to be him, knowing his own end will not be natural.
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