Three months ago, I was in Vietnam reviewing just how expansive the positioning of Chinese investment was in the concurrent communist nation. The short version is Beijing’s footprint in Vietnam was already huge.
As an outcome of the 2018 tariffs against China, which coincided with a President Trump visit to southeast Asia, multiple companies shifted manufacturing operations from China to Vietnam.
Beijing saw the move and slowly increased their own strategic footprint.
In the subsequent years as COVID-19 took attention from all other matters, and with Trump removed from the equation in 2020, China increased the scale of their investment and the outcomes in 2025 are very visible.
China even built this massive Disney type village in Phu Quõc (it’s nearly empty).
The people who live in Vietnam do not have money, they are a very poor nation. The baseline poverty level, in combination with their communist regime politics, essentially eliminates their consumer power to purchase western goods and makes trade agreements between the U.S and Vietnam somewhat moot. However, as a proxy manufacturing nation Vietnam is a valuable resource for China.
Essentially what can be seen in Vietnam is how Beijing spends money there for influence. The U.S footprint is negligible in comparison to the visible influence of China.
Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping is in Vietnam right now making trade deals with the allied communist government. At this point with so much Beijing influence money already in place, China can request very strategic terms.
HANOI, April 14 (Reuters) – China’s President Xi Jinping on Monday called for stronger ties with Vietnam on trade and supply chains amid disruptions caused by U.S. tariffs, as he attended the signing in Hanoi of dozens of cooperation agreements between the two Communist-run nations.
The visit, planned for weeks and part of a wider trip in Southeast Asia, comes as Beijing faces 145% U.S. duties, while Vietnam is negotiating a reduction of threatened U.S. tariffs of 46% that would otherwise apply in July after a global moratorium expires.
“The two sides should strengthen cooperation in production and supply chains,” Xi said in an article in Nhandan, the newspaper of Vietnam’s Communist Party, posted ahead of his arrival on Monday. He also urged more trade and stronger ties with Hanoi on artificial intelligence and the green economy.
After he met Vietnam’s top leader To Lam, the two countries signed dozens of cooperation agreements, including deals on enhancing supply chains and on cooperation over railways, footage of the documents reviewed by Reuters showed.
Chinese and Vietnamese state media later on Monday reported that 45 agreements were signed.
If necessary Viet Nam’s tariff can match China.
It will be even bigger because their original retaliatory tarriff was higher than China’s.
So Vietnam makes $1.4 Billion a year being a transshipment nexus.
We moved our production out of China in 2019 into Vietnam due to China was too expensive.
We can offer Vietnam something China can’t; ENERGY.
And with sufficient, stable supply of energy it can develop its own industrial base, independent of China.
“… it can develop its own industrial base, independent of China…”
With whose capital? No more loan guarantees and World Bank investments please.
Who ever wants to give it to them; free markets. Well, that’s the goal at least.
China stole energy from Vietnam! China built offshore oil rigs inside Vietnam’s coastal waters in violation of international laws and has deployed Chinese military and armed Coast Guard vessels to prevent Vietnam from accessing the area. It is part of China’s expansionist claim of ownership over the entire South China sea, including into the coastal waters of every country along that sea.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/china-vietnam-tensions-high-over-drilling-rig-disputed-waters
Vietnam is a communist regime. No amount of development will free the citizens to industrialize and build, under such a regime. We send them oil? They’ll simply sell it or trade it to Chyna. We do not need to waste our precious resources trying raise up every poverty stricken shithole in the world.
As should anyone involved in trans-shipment. Comprendes mi hijah? Understand eh?
Time to shut down the Chinese Viet pipeline!
Their influence worldwide is massive
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March 30,2025
They met in Seoul
Japan, South Korea and China vow to strengthen trade ties amid looming U.S. tariffs – The Japan Times
Making deals? It’s Xi who is actually directing them to make a deal.
No deals
Vietnam, China’s China.
China’s ukraine?
Well, I guess we will see how China …wheels and deals with other countries, it should be eye opening and “scary” ?
We do have to deal with the Dragon sooner or later, and the past USA presidents decided to do it later, … and gave it to Trump to deal with the Dragon!
Interesting Times!
our MSM is anti-American … so we will not get any positive press for Trump.
We can see all the damage Biden did. Mainstream media KNEW Biden was corrupt and got lots of money from China to let china do what it wanted. Even our Top Military General said, that he hates Trump and will Call China to tell what Trump is going to do, because he gets along great with China military! That General gave away 82 billion in usa Arms to taliban and was not FIRED!
I think AG/military/DOD/FBI/CIA should investigate these Treasonous stuff, and …. did CHINA rig the 2020 election so CHINA could take over our Country. China flew the Balloon across our country and took pictures of our bases , etc.
Biden was much worse than we originally thought.
we all saw on MSM say that Trump was puppet of Putin! And Dems spent 40 million to find the evidence and there was NONE.
The last 10 years the MSM was talking about Russia, Russia, Russia and were absolutely “SILENT” about CHINA! Silent! And if anyone spoke against China, they were removed or ridiculed! We all saw it!
NOW 10 years later, the TRUTH comes out! MSM conspired with CHINA to harm our Country!
I’m getting upset putting 2 plus 2 together! I don’t like what I’m seeing! I’ll stop now!
Please Trump put on your Warrior clothes and defend our Country. I don’t want to be part of the Communist Country like vietnam is … (a lap dog for China).
I just mediated for 15 minutes and I can see I was writing from EGO. The last week I have been going back and forth between a Ego drama and SILENCE and Presence. I move back into Presence and everything is peaceful and no ego chatter in my head (feels good), then something triggers EGO stories and upsetting feelings. Interesting learning experience. The expanding comes from Filling myself with God’s LOVE (and my perception changes) , I go back to EGO which feels like a nightmare in comparision. Even conversations where I start as ego, as I switch to God Breathing, all of a sudden people can tell because they open up to me. My tense EGO approach creates a counter tense response. My early years were “hellish” , I was fighting everybody. The new way feels pretty good. I see 2 ways the EGO way and this more Peaceful and Loving way!
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?”
The ego cancels any peaceful and loving you can muster. You’re fallen. Seek Him.
Biden, Obama, etc., it took decades to place the USA in a position of almost total dependence on China especially regarding national security risk. It does border on treasonous that those who knew the risks facilitated this all along. They should pay both personally and monetarily.
And far too many neglect to include Bush in the list of names,…Papa was Ambassador to China, probably compromised then, was CIA Director and was a Manchurian President.
WEF is a suicide pact for the West on behalf of China.
Run by The City.
See The Whole Board.
It’s Puppets All The Way Down.
‘…a suicide pact for the West on behalf of China ‘
Some observe:
“Suicide” of the West is not the goal of the 100 Year Plan.
They don’t want the West to fully collapse itself. Just diminish itself to a useful appendage under complete control.
Step back and look at every US Bloc trend. Everything working together converges in the future in a diminished state under complete surveillance and control.
The Grande Theater du jour presented as the path to restoration – cutting Federal overspending and increasing tariffs – is theater. DOGE now admits they won’t cut more than 2% of Federal budget ($150B/$7.1T), and tariffs cannot substantially restore US industry necessary to restore the US.
Will the downward progression continue gradually, or will there be a pivot?
Tyrants use war to “suspend” civil rights, a step toward totalitarianism. The US is further depleting and weakening its military while overloading the DoD Civilian workforce with cuts which will further hamper replenishment by shallow industry, as it continues posturing for conflict. This is a recipe for starting and losing a war, which could be the pivot: Cancel the Bill of Rights, then become a totalitarian vassal state at the bottom of a “multi-polar order” led by China, which fulfills the 100 Year Plan.
But there are other potential pivot-levers in the wings too. Such as the Replicons.
The record shows that the US regime machinations always have multiple mechanisms to their ends. Part redundancy and part synergy. War or biowarfare democide? Maybe both.
China is a paper dragon. 100% reliant upon foreign investment and propaganda to prop up its zombie economy of empty towns and pathetic economics.
Shanghai has a smaller per capital GDP than Mississippi. Yes, go look it up. Trump needs to put his boot on the CCP’s neck and snap it. 400% plus tariffs.
The US is fully dependent on strategic supply controlled by China, including electronics/components, rare earths, and pharmaceuticals.
Where do you suppose the device you are using to read this was made? Either China or another nation in that hemisphere drawing from the China-centric supply chain ecosystems. The US cannot do this. Period. The US cannot function now without these devices. Cut off supply and the device population starts declining as devices age and fail, causing increasing widespread dysfunctions that multiply synergistically. Same goes for other electronics.
The US comprises less than 20% of China total trade. It could cut off the US and survive, much better than the US could survive being cut off from China. The Trump tariffs are driving even more alternative trade by China, ironically. (Or maybe that is the real goal.)
https://www.tradeimex.in/china-export
https://www.tradeimex.in/china-import
Why stop at 400%? Why not 10,000%?
It won’t solve our core morbid internal problems.
Instead of responding like Pavlovian dogs when our masters here at home say “squirrel” by looking at other countries as the source of troubles, we need to look at who is saying “squirrel”.
Our military, social and economic weakness is caused by a variety of factors, all self inflicted.
Why are we maintaining an Empire and seeking to expand it, along with financial, military and societal “moral” dominance of the entire globe?
Family farms are gone, viable small business is gone, industrial capacity is gone. The middle class where one man can earn enough to maintain a family with the woman caring for children at home to raise them into competent adults is gone.
We now have a mass of homelessness, institutional poverty, both parents must work and receive government services to not even make it monthly. All controlled by a handful of billionaire oligarchs through federal, state and local bureaucrats. This class is given power and maintained at a comfortable level once enjoyed by the blue collar class. The people who make things and grow our food.
The loss of the critical mass percentage of extended families with Christian values, work ethic, basic education and economic stability, disenfranchised from political power to vote in or remove the inbred, permanent ruling structure is the core of our country dying.
Speaking of paper tigers, what exactly would happen if China dumps our treasury notes?
What will happen to the sea lanes if we start a Pacific war?
Your confident here at home that we are in good social, economic shape? Our financial system is sound, impervious to loss of foreign investors?
Might it not be worth a thought to make incremental changes to become self sufficient over time?
How long does it take to build factories and train skilled labor?
The Trump has a magic wand that he can waive and all will be good sounds sketchy.
Increase tariffs on China to 400% and watch 1.4 billion people get hangry. China will capitulate or their people will start eating the CCP out of existence.
I love the “cooperation agreements.” China tells Vietnam, “You will cooperate,” and Vietnam says “OK, Boss.”
What’s with the waterfront empty ‘housing’ ?
Vietemkin Village.
Tres chic.
👉 “Vietemkin Village”👈👍👌.
Why… what’s the purpose?
Optics for the idiots.
money laundering
proceeds from base chems for fentanyl aren’t going to wash itself, yaknow
likely.
God Bless America
Ms Patience I believe they (China) want their puppet regime to be able to showcase the success they have had being a puppet regime.
Nothing says success like a largely vacant Vietempkin Village with waterfront empty houses. 😎😁
Honorable mention to Maquis…..
It wrote itself!
Appreciate the spelling fix.
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Maquis: You win the internet for today!!
Wordman would be jealous.
“Nothing says success like a largely vacant Vietempkin Village with waterfront empty houses. 😎😁”
They look good on the spy satellite images.
you mean the obvious lack of any thermal energy at night?
yeah, pretty much not interesting.
Pretty pictures for propaganda purposes
Is China the new “Soviet Union”?
Echoes of the past are coming into view. The Vietnam war was a costly and deadly war and so many of our young men straight out of High School were sacrificed needlessly. It was heartbreaking.
I do hope we do not get trapped into that part of the world again.I also hope that President Trump does not linger in the Ukraine arena.
IMO: Getting the US involved in endless wars is how the enemy has weakened the US influence of freedom around the world. Soros and Xi are a deadly combo.
Let’s pray that President Trump is successful in bringing our troops home to secure our readiness to combat threats to our own shores.
I was in the Army for 30 months. Many of my soldier friends did not come home. I guess God was on my side….Gracias Dios. Hard to talk about.
Me too. 31 months, 21 days and couple hours 1967-1970 SE Asia…bill
Apparently trade is how the Viet Cong get payback for 1965-1975, even though they won that war and the South went total commie, joining the North in July 1976. Dumbest and most heartbreaking damn strategic loss in which the U.S. was ever involved. 58,000 Americans sacrificed their lives, unknowingly for corporate whores.
Since then the effort by U.S. corporate whores to get us re-engaged with communists in both China and Vietnam has created an absurd dependency on those foreign nations for household and other basic products that used to be made – and made well – in this country.
I vote for escalating Vietnam tariffs to the same high level as China, forcing the elimination of imports that contain any traces of Chinese manufacturing and I.P. theft.
Sundance is our man in . . . well, everywhere apparently!!
Imagine the backside calendar 🤔
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Don’t. Start.
Too late, Maquis.
😁 😁
Next we can start with your favorite tune
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Jack Posobiec tweets Vietnam and China have signed 45 agreements during Xi visit.
An end run by China but probably a few steps behind President Trump.
Except Trump holds the, well, um, Trump card. Vietnam can manufacture all they want but there’s no country with our buying power. And no matter how much they believe the EU can fill that gap they will find out the hard way that the money will dry up fast when the EU has to start raising taxes to fill the holes left by U.S. money leaving.
China is still a paper tiger albeit a big one.
Exactly, Horse. President Trump has been cogitating and mapping out his strategy for the four years he has been in the political “wilderness” from whence no one thought he’d return. Not even Chyyyna. Two steps ahead.
Maybe…probably…more.
More fool those countries who didn’t plan for that contingency.
Exactly; all while the “experts” hem and haw over their academic prowess. All while the real world adapts to real world things.
“Experts” on paper only. The school of hard knocks and reality is constantly slapping “school taught” experts around..
Meanwhile students of the streets excel. And when you have both, well, you see both sides with the same skepticism cuz only results matter on tve streets, the one area academia always overlooks and instead sides with theory.
Can’t tell you how I have come to despise many words, “expert” being one of the worst.
One generally applied to a person with no experience in his or field, someone (as you say) with academic “credentials” only. Someone who has never had to pay a price, personal or otherwise, for being wrong.
Most true experts I know in many professions don’t have higher “education” letters after their names.
As Mark Steyn so brilliantly wrote…”Overcredentialed, undereducated.”
Truth.
Xi/China been busy….Vietnam is just the latest 😳
March 30, 2025. They met in Seoul.
Japan, South Korea and China vow to strengthen trade ties amid looming U.S. tariffs – The Japan Times
Great, Asia, trade away! But when you sell things to the consuming capital of the universe, expect to pay a tariff for access.
No country or group of countries can possibly compare to the US. Literally pikers. VSGPDJT is using our voraciousness as a yuge bargaining chip.
Better.
This will just remover the trans-shipment country.
Look how easily President Trump got Panama to back out of Belt and Road, and secure the Canal for the U.S.
China has been able to advance the B&R because nobody contested or challenged them.
We have our market, and we have energy and China has neither
Cut The New Silk Noose.
Build The ReOrient Express!
Exactly, China is a big huge ass terrifying paper tiger. The key part is paper. No one is leveraged more than China- when the balance of your whole economy rests in exports and the largest richest importer stops buying your stuff, it matter not how much the poor people buy, it still doesn’t add up to to what the richest one in the room buys. You can’t replace that, ever.
“He also urged more trade and stronger ties with Hanoi on artificial intelligence and the green economy.”
🤣
Chyna – “green economy”! / sarc
Otherwise known as “do as I say, not as I do”.
Or
We will sell you the non-recyclable equipment (wind turbines) for YOUR “new green scam “
Soy???
Yes. Sell soy to Vietnam.
President Trump and his team know about this relationship btwn the two communist countries. China and Vietnam will be crushed by President Trump.
Actually, they have had 3 or 4 “border skirmishes” since the end of the U.S. war with Viet nam.
China does not play well with others, and has only resentment in the region; they have to buy “friendships”, they are bullies.
Let us not forget that have our own Imperialistic issues because we failed to refrain from foreign entanglements.
Thanks to certain three letter agencies and neocons doing the bidding of the Luceferian Illuminati & central bankers.
Two points here:
Please stop calling it COVID-19.
Use the proper term, the Wuhan Flu.
Every previous virus/flu was identified by its region of origin, Ebola, SARS, Asian Flu, etc.
The CCP used their muscle to enforce the use of ‘COVID-19’ instead of Wuhan Fle to deflect the origins of the virus.
The CCP is the world’s public enemy #1.
Get Wuhan Flu back again.
Also Wu Flu, Wu-flu, WuFlu, or Wuflu.
Or Chy-na virus!
Or, 中国流感
When using Chinese characters to say “ China Flu.”
I always liked calling it Xi’s Disease.
Chapel Hill Global Derp State Bioweapon.
Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue.
China Flu
From the outset, I have referred to that “BUG” as the Chi-Com Flu
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Coupvid.
Yep! My version was CoupVid-19(84).
Why not call it what it is? COVID 19 created by the CIA in China. To ensure the Trump admin was paralyzed, and Biden could sit on a spacious green lawn wearing a mask while the CIA installed puppet could attempt to be normal for the faux election.
Created for much worse and long before.
PDJT only influenced their timing.
The Trump administration needs face saving tools just as much as China. We use proxies like Mexico and Canada. They use Viet Nam and Korea. The elites always need their favorite spots to traffic women and children as well.
The solution is simple. If we have a 145% tariff on all Chinese imports, or whatever the tariff is that we have on a specific category of Chinese imports, then it should apply regardless of where it was made or assembled. We could negotiate with Vietnam that if Vietnamese labor contributed to, say, 10% of the final value of the product, then the tariff on Chinese products is applied to 90% of the value of the product and the lower tariff on Vietnamese products is applied to 10% of the value of the product. Quite simple that way, and it would negate the ability of the Chinese to get around our tariffs by offshoring some portion of producing their products.
Of course, if some ostensibly American company like Apple completely moves their production from China to Vietnam, then the lower tariff on Vietnamese products would be applied to 100% of the value of the product. Also quite simple.
I vote for just treating Vietnam as we treat China..problem solved.
Agreed; the experts always want to make things seem more difficult than they appear.
So, who decides and verifies the % of labor used? That formula would never work. As someone below stated, just put a 400% tariff on anything coming out of Asia. That covers 90% of the shit entering the USA.
Vietnamese have historically (thousands of years) disliked the Chinese. Does the current Communist Veneer cloak their history? I don’t know.
I do know that “the man in the street” can usually Get Along with other similar people in other countries. Governments acting in the name of the people create wars, dissensions and attack their own citizens who object to government policy/programs.
We would do well to Clean our own Houses before pointing fingers at others. just my opinion
Exactly!
Never thought I would ever see this!
They met in Seoul. March 30, 2025
💁♀️ 🤷♀️ 😳 😳
Japan, South Korea and China vow to strengthen trade ties amid looming U.S. tariffs – The Japan Times
Never-ever thought I would see this either.
The extent that Biden and his cronies messed
up things- I think most people still don’t
realize….🤷♀️💁♀️
It’s like taking the World map and totally re-shuffling it.
Archrivals Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to end years of hostilities in deal mediated by China | CNN
2023…
Joint Press Release of the Second Meeting of the China-Saudi Arabia-Iran Trilateral Joint Committee_Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People’s Republic of China
does anyone know what the plan is for dealing with imports from China, and others, which cannot be replaced in the near term until factories are built in the USA?
I thought that one suggestion could be that corporations importing into the USA are given discounts and/or exemptions based on their commitment and action to investing in and building factories in the USA, with procedures for ensuring timely progress in depositing and spending funds in the USA. Exemptions without performance defeats the original purpose. I hope the Trump admimistration did their homework regarding the time necessary to build new factories.
I don’t trust commitments from globalist corps. I would be ok with for every million dollars spent in the actual construction of a US based manufacturing facility, not a new home office but actual production factory, they get a million dollars in reduction on import tariffs. If they are ahead of schedule, then they can earn an extra perk.
I believe what you two are describing, is rxactly what President Trump and his trade team are doing, which is why he said he “remains flexible”.
He said in his presser with Bukele “I don’t wsnt to hurt anyone, and will be flexjible so long as my goal of getting manufacturing back into our country is happening.” or something to that effect.
So yes, he is willing to give auto manufactureres a short term reprieve on parts from Mexico/Canada, UNTIL such time as those parts can be produced here.
I dont think he should give any short term reprieves without actually having the funds transferred here and then monitoring that funds are weekly spent towards actual specific projects. No discount or exemption without funds plus action.
“what the plan is for dealing with imports from China, and others, which cannot be replaced in the near term ”
Be a Boy Scout – “Be Prepared”
Stock up on everything that is nonperishable to hold your family over.
That is a good idea. If Apple wants to build their phones in slave labor Chy NA, pay the 400% tariff and start building plants in the USA to mfg phones here. Apple gets plans underway. Submits plans to Commerce SEC. With total dollar amt estm. And the time of start to time when plant will produce first phone. Monthly inspection report is submitted to Commerce SEC. By a certified auditor and Apple deposits a billion dollars in a good faith account payable to the U.S. TREASURY if plant is not completed and operational by the date stated in plan. The 400% tariff is reduced by 10% when the progress on the building of plant reaches 10% at each stage of the building. Example. Build out is 30% completed, tariff is reduced by 30%. 50% completed, tariff reduced by 50%. 100% completed, tariff is removed. If any phones are produced in any foreign country after U.S. production begins, 400% tariff goes back in effect and is never removed.
Do this for all mfg. moving to America. And treat Europe the same way. Europe is not our friend. They are a backstabbing USA TEAT SUCKING SOB.
And we can tariff any CCP produced goods out of Vietnam. I love this game but then I love any game where critical thinking and the ability to pivot quickly is a must- like the game of life.
But then I’m not one who thinks tariffs are bad. I don’t think they are good either. They are a tool to be used when needed and put back on the shelf when it’s no longer useful.
Well, when you put your faith in fools, you will be disappointed. They didn’t earn the moniker fool for nothing.
Not really a surprise: “imports from China closely match the value and swings of exports to the U.S.”
I was in Laos this January/February and China is there big time and they are highly resented by most Laotians.
I never got the impression laotians resented the Chinese, quite the opposite actually.
Touring the country on a bike 15 years ago vs more recently id say the Chinese involvement hasn’t been all bad and most laotians would agree. in the rural out of the way areas especially there has been huge improvements.
Everywhere I went, which was in cities but mostly in rural areas there was no evident appreciation of the Chinese, quite the opposite. Who are you?
If you want to know what Chinese investment into countries looks like, here you go
Sundance, can you please explain the interplay between USMCA and new tariffs. TYIA
We need rapid infrastructure/ rollout of some key initiatives.
– New Pharma production in the USA or proxy – likely in the south, or even Puerto Rico. Maybe both?
– can we identify in advance some areas for new silicon manufacturing? Arizona?
– Artillery production. We’re still way behind Russia. Would new plants in the south, Puerto Rico, or Somoa be more cost efficient (cheaper)?
– Phillips 66 Los Angeles Refinery soon to be shut down in Wilmington. This refinery will be the second closed under Newsom, and produces 10% of the oil products for Southern Califirnia and Southwest. Gas and airline costs will jump.
I’d look at declaring it a national emergency and saving it through Federal action, or putting pressure on California government. SoCal is a massive economic engine, and doesn’t need this restriction. It also has over 500 well-paying jobs. Services SoCal airports and military. Critical.
Rapid rollout – example.
Football stadiums take 3, 4, 5 years to build.
In 2006 Stanford alum John Arrillaga donated 75% of the constriction cost ($60 Million) with the proviso that he run the project. It got built in under a year.
– they own the land
– he ran THREE crews 24 hours a day
Why can’t we do that for Pharma or artillery production?
We’re all talk. I can tell you Ross Perot would get it done.
So what did our President do in his life before office?
He got things built. In Trump Time.
No disrespect to Perot, but, seriously, what?
I have no worries on this particular score.
We did things like that after we got sucked into WW2.
PDJT is great at cutting the regs slowing everything down.
The emergency has been declared.
Declare a national emergency under the war powers act, activate the national guard in every state, the entire armed forces and have them build all the plants and obtain the equipment and machinery needed to get the plants operational. Bring all the troops in all foreign countries home and use some to secure both the Southern and Northern borders and the rest to build the plants. Purchase the land or close down some unneeded military installations in the USA and build plants on that land. The plants would then be leased to the companies producing the goods at a cost of 50% of appraised value and financed by the US Treasury at the current commercial mortage rate, minus 2%.
This is a national emergency and we need to be able to produce these things to save the country in time of war. Every US citizen benefits. Put Elon Musk in charge of getting it done, and it will get done. Pay him 500 million dollars in Treasury bonds. Or more if necessary. The politicians steal more than amount every year and all we get for it is a royal screwing.
“– can we identify in advance some areas for new silicon manufacturing? Arizona?”
A year or two ago, Sen Charles Schumer (D- NY) was behind a microphone touting the possibility of some chip making plant in the Albany, NY area.
I did not pay much attention because he says lots of things that never materialize.
Like his help when he was up the street from me in 2013 after a local ice jam flood event. I did not want to be seen there, so I caught the clip on the local news.
“Gas and airline costs will jump.”
“They” DO NOT CARE.
This will be interesting to watch. A few thoughts:
Vietnam maintains its insular posture wrt limiting extended “foreign” footprints, particularly for tourists/travelers and non-sponsored workers.
At the retail level, Vietnam does not allow foreign ownership, but has established economic zones that court foreign investment. There is a fun rumor floating around that affiliates of the Trump organization have been looking at possible resort/golf course investments.
Sundance has noted electronics and textiles, but the economy includes vibrant agricultural, domestic pharmaceutical, and light manufacturing activities as well as a cohesive, disciplined blue collar workforce. It lacks capacity for intellectual property development and a heavy industrial base, which is further hindered by limited domestic investment capital.
Vietnam’s middle class could maybe be likened to America’s middle class pre-WWII/pre-Unions/pre-GI Bill. I wonder if they would really want to have all the “benefits” of a fully mature Westernized middle class.
It is actually quite charming that the entire nation shuts down for the beginning of Tet to allow the population the opportunity to spend time with family for several days. During that period, workers are compensated triple overtime for essential services.
The animus towards foreign “influence” reflects the fierce independence of the people, the culture, and historical interaction. I would expect to see Vietnam continue to use relations with the US to hedge against China’s dominance and vice versa.
A good barometer would be the number of English vs Mandarin second language speakers.
The thesis that Vietnam, along with Singapore, a penguin infested island in Australia, Mexico, Canada, and other nations serving as sanitizing stations for Chinese exports into the US is sound and must be dealt with.
BUT, any disinterested observer might note that Vietnam has a pretty good case that it is due reparations with interest for damages incurred due to the US impeding self-determination and unification of the country for a decade and a half.
Or at least treatment as a Most Favored Nation.
Squeeze Viet Nam. From current trade, go to zero. Find other supply lines on this half of the world. Trying to compete with China in Asia will be futile.
China/Xi been busy 😳
March 30, 2025
They met in Seoul….
Vietnam seems to be just- the latest…
Never thought I would see this😳😳😳
Japan, South Korea and China vow to strengthen trade ties amid looming U.S. tariffs – The Japan Times
I question the wisdom of ANY trade with a communist nation. They want to kill us. We shouldn’t be engaging in any efforts to benefit them. Why is Cuba different?
Any communist nation should be removed from WTO.
The heat is on for newly confirmed SEC chairman Paul Atkins to crack down on Chinese companies
https://nypost.com/2025/04/12/business/the-heat-is-on-for-newly-confirmed-sec-chairman-paul-atkins-to-crackdown-on-chinese-companies
The uni-party co-optation by the CCP of the Senate and Congress is a big problem. I think it’s difficult to identify western govts and their bureaucrats who aren’t co-opted by the CCP.
CCP is a mere subsidiary of London.
Look to the Wilson Administration for insights on when and how The City captured our Senate and Treasury.
Indeed, although I do differentiate the “Globullusts” of the WEF and within our govt. from the CCP, its all the same, in the end.
The City was behind the Soviets, as well.
They still control all elements of the Global Conspiracy.
Langley Begins The Road To London.
This isn’t about trade. Well, it is to us. But it is not about trade for China. It is, and has always been, China’s attempt to rule the world. That is, after all, the Marxist goal, the ideology, that it is inevitble that capitalism will fail and the entire world will eventually become a communist society.
So, while the West’s Third Wayers packed up American manufacturing and shipped tens of millions of American jobs to China in the painfully silly hope that it would transform China’s hardcore Marxist system into a hybrid of communism and capitalism, a “Third Way,” China’s Marxist leaders have the whole time been lauging up their sleeves and pursuing their own strategy of conquest. Not change. Domination.
And now we see it. As the rest of the world lines up to work out their individual countries’ fair trade arrangements with the US, Xi heads to Viet Nam to arrange his sneaky cheater backdoor trans shipment of Chinese products to the US to avoid tariffs and continue to undermine American manufacturing. Still following the “conquer and dominate” playbook.
Xi’s not fooling anyone, and is certainly making no attempt to hide it.
F China. Let their whole system collapse.
And anyone who decides that a deal with China is better than a deal with the U.S.
This. F Chyna. Let their containers rust in the oceans. I have been paying double, triple, and sometimes quad for American products on a retirement income for some years now.
At times I felt I was alone, but now I think this movement is growing. Americans can still sacrifice when we have to. ‘Let’s take down the CCP’.
Well, if Vietnam intended to maintain it’s independence from China (for which I believe they fought a war with China sometime between 1975 and 2010 (my memory is fuzzy and I’m too lazy to research), the way to do that would be to open the country to US investment and US government encouragement. Specifically, set up a back channel liaison directly with Trump’s team, for commercial AND military cooperation.
My guess is that any such overture would find the current Vietnamese leaders dying in an unfortunate plane crash or falling from tall buildings, i.e. Communist style discipline. For one thing, Vietnam is still Ho Chi Minh communist, ideologically. Still a whole generate or two of Vietnam communists that any budding capitalist in Vietnam would need to … um … “silence”, before any such reproachment would be possible.
I had heard about the newly vibrant “capitalist Vietnam” still ruled by the communists, but I suspect that was all “propaganda for dollars”. Whatever.
I don’t wish for evil for the Vietnamese, but they made their bed in authoritarian communism, so they will have to live or die in the bed they made. Vietnam is fit for Chinese rule, as the Chinese colony it now is.
So, does this make Vietnam today’s kinder, gentler North Korea? If they’re both going to be puppets under China’s thumb, what’s the difference, other then that Vietnam doesn’t have nukes?
Installed Boston Radical Left Mayor Michelle Wu’s 2021 campaign received hundreds of thousands of dollars from a fundraiser identified by a Chinese intelligence agency as an official.
https://dailycaller.com/2025/04/14/michelle-wu-campaign-bankrolled-gary-yu-chinese-intel-agency/
Spoiler Alert: Nothing will happen…
Looks like Vietnam has lost the U.S. market…
Key imports from Vietnam to the US include footwear, wood and articles of wood, iron and steel, coffee, tea, mate and spices, and paper and paperboard.
Purdy sure we can locate these things elsewhere.
Bigger challenge than some might think.
China has come to dominate the global petrochemical market very swiftly.
For some reason, the US is a major exporter of feedstocks to China.
https://www.iea.org/commentaries/china-s-petrochemical-surge-is-driving-global-oil-demand-growth
From the very beginning of trade with China, some decades ago, I never saw the wisdom of doing business with any communist nation, be that China, Vietnam, or any communist nation.
To me, trading with any communist nation is akin to giving my hard earned money to someone who, in turn, is going to spend my money buying things that they can then use to harm me and my fellow citizens with.
What do we make that the Vietnamese can use, let alone afford?
Our largest exports are inflation through use of the $US for most trade, regime changes, antiquated weapon systems and conflicts.
Our corporations outsourced our industry to China to exploit their workers, and impoverish our middle class, for “cheap” goods.
Now we have a government worker, grant writing, or dependent on subsidy economy and we bitch about being “ripped off”. Yes, ripped off by globalists and our own prostitute Congresses over decades.
The one thing Vietnam has is to be one country. They are very proud and nationalistic. Not split in 2 like Korea.
Packaged in the US in Chinese-made boxes, packages, and wraps.
Nobody here has mentioned the animus that is still felt, especially in the oldest generation, in Vietnam for Americans. There are statues and commemorations of Vietnam’s victory over the French and later over the US all over the country. They are exceedingly proud of that victory – a small country defeating the Goliath. Most in that older generation lost family members, friends, children, fathers, and other relatives due to US armed forces, the bombing campaigns, or the subsequent waves of emigration.
They have reason not to be trustful when the US comes with money in hand.
I actually worked on one of the two theme parks in Phu Quoc while it was being built starting in late 2019 just before COVID hit the world. We evacuated abruptly in late March of 2020 in time for the infamous “2 week shutdown” on what felt what I imagine is a lot like the last flights out in ‘72 did. We returned a year later to finish up before COVID took Vietnam by storm devastating much of the country.
They catered to what appeared to me to be mainly Chinese families and Russian Mobsters and their beautiful girlfriends, but we’re hoping to appeal to the US market by developing direct air service to the states. They flew a lot of freight in their passenger aircraft during Covid to log the needed flight hours to bolster the airline in that regard.
The theme parks were built as part of a mandatory investment in the region in order to obtain permits to build large scale casinos.
During COVID, foreign tourism shut down entirely and they shifted to mainland Vietnamese tourists who seemed to have never vacationed in resorts like this (or any other) before and were looked down upon as the equivalent of rednecks visiting Beverly Hills.
The whole thing seemed like a massive money laundering operation to me, as thousands of brick pavers were being replaced daily after being damaged by the same oil leaking construction equipment every night. They were either too stupid to wait for construction to be completed before replacing the pavers, or intentionally doing it for other reasons.
There seemed to be a significant resentment of Chinese control in the past by many of the locals we worked with.
If I had to guess I would say it was financed more by the Russians than the Chinese at that time, but I had no insight to any of that.
The massive Casinos were eerily vacant with hundreds of machines still wrapped in plastic and unused.
You had to apply for admission to get in to the casinos and I don’t think the locals were ever allowed in.
All of those empty buildings are resort villas for the anticipated waves of tourists that may never have actually materialized.
The island was beautiful and the building exteriors were extremely impressive. But the structures themselves are all highly questionable and I would hesitate to actually ride any of the attractions.
VN is a fencing operation for their masters!
C Nguyen
@CNMNguyen
Talk of the town in Vietnam: how Xi today was received at the airport by Vietnam’s president (Luong Cuong) and Standing Secretary of the VCP Secretariat & anti-corruption tsar (Tran Cam Tu). No such top-level “airport reception” by Vietnam happened before since 1991.
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China Limits Stock Sales To Maintain Impression Of Stability, As Bessent Hints At Boosting Treasury Buybacks If Fed Does Nothing
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-limits-stocks-sales-maintain-impression-stability-bessent-hints-boosting-treasury
zerohedge
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CHINESE PRESS REPORTS NOTE THAT CERTAIN CHINA BANKS HAVE CUT DEPOSITS RATES BELOW 2%
another stock market stimmy
9:49 PM · Apr 14, 2025