The CIA and Intelligence Community working together with Silicon Valley tech teams to develop best in class AI systems, using references from prior nuclear weapon development, “The Manhattan Project.” Huh, what could possibly go wrong. {GO DEEP}
BREITBART – CIA Director John Ratcliffe told Breitbart News last week that President Donald Trump’s administration is considering creating a national laboratory akin to the Manhattan Project to help develop and steer the future of Artificial Intelligence (AI).
“When you talk about AI, one of the things I want to explore is whether we can expand and establish a national laboratory for the development of AI to help the U.S. government leverage emerging technology to make sure American leadership is that,” Ratcliffe told Breitbart News in his first interview as CIA director last week.
[…] Ratcliffe explained the idea for national laboratories dates back to the Manhattan Project, where the U.S. government helped scientists develop nuclear weapons that won World War II for the United States and allied nations. He said the recent announcement from Trump of “Project Stargate,” the half-trillion-dollar initiative to promote AI, could be expanded upon to include more public-private partnerships akin to the Manhattan Project that get the U.S. out in front of the nation’s adversaries on AI.
“You saw this initiative the president discussed—Project Stargate—which is the four-year, $500 billion AI infrastructure project that’s been proposed with all of our great technology companies,” Ratcliffe said. “We could expand on that with a public-private partnership where a government element could participate, and we’ve done this before—our constellation of national laboratories can be traced back to the Manhattan Project, which we used as a public-private partnership to develop the first nuclear weapon to win World War II. We need to be thinking about the ways we can do that to counter how our adversaries are using things like the cyber threats to their strategic advantage and putting our national security interests in a place where we’re able to harness the data and computational speed of AI to understand trends and events and threats and opportunities faster than our adversaries do.” (read more)
On Christmas Day last year, CTH predicted exactly this scenario {SEE HERE}; only we took it forward to its logical conclusion. You know, the part no one thinks about until the weapon is created…. Then, suddenly, as if on cue, this pops up:
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The system to classify Americans by personage is currently being developed inside the silos of the Intelligence Community, the Dept of Homeland Security and combined with the technological creations of those who are contracted to build it – like Palantir (Peter Thiel).
Within this matrix of categorized Americans there will be those who are not subjected to the surveillance, their constitutional rights will be protected, and they will be afforded all benefit of personage. However, there will be lower classes who are continual targets for it who do not have such protection. There is no way to avoid this caste system outcome; in fact, many components of it are already in place.
Peter Thiel (Palantir), Elon Musk (xAI, SpaceX), Larry Ellison (Oracle), David Sacks and a host of mutually aligned artificial intelligence builders stand to benefit financially from a technologically efficient Surveillance State. Their companies and their AI software products are the targeting tools within the DHS surveillance system itself. Do not be misled by their ownership of different companies within this construct, they are all mutually allied; factually, they are all friends in the same tech sector….
…. And now the CIA is directly saying, the IC should engage and support the emerging science.
There is no way to avoid being the target of an AI weapon once that weapon is created. However, unlike the mutually assured destruction within the nuclear analogy, there will be no threat of mutual application within the surveillance bomb.
There are going to be tiers of people who are not subjected to the rules of the Surveillance State. There are going to be tiers of people, powerful, influential, some intensely rich people, to whom the application of the surveillance does not exist.
I have already seen this ‘tiered’ system starting to come into place. I have witnessed firsthand the outcomes of the software being deployed within the design of their building.
I have witnessed real identities masked by the system as an outcome of their status. Facial recognition programs that black out search results based on arbitrary definitions and determinations of those who control the surveillance application.
Congress reauthorized FISA-702 only after ensuring the warrantless database searches could not be used against any member of congress or their staff.
In the private sector, I wonder how much it would cost to qualify and register for the “grey people” list?
Which candidate do we donate to? Vance ’28?


Wrapping national security around big tech and ai is super important
Most of big tech is a BRICS treasonous crime scene
Congress are all corrupt and need to be treated systematically as such by citizens and do their own equivalent to FISA open source and outside of the big tech BRICS run social media platforms and the globalist Ivy League msm
Totally doable
You can literally fake a war in Ukraine with AI.
😉
Thats what has been used to promote the fake need to sustain the ruse. It a prelude to our enslavement.
I can see deepseek becomming a threat in the future because it seems to work better.
Globalist Corporations, now wrapping themselves in the American Flag, will backdoor all of it to China.
Remember when Chairman Xi got the CEO of Fisher-Price to kowtow? I do.
You’re sure its not to take you down?
If big tech is a BRICS treasonous crime scene what does it mean that Trump has surrounded himself with the likes of Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg?
Another fundamentally change America concept!
DeepSeek was too perfectly timed, considering what came before, and now after.
Paraguay looking better every day. No tax on foreign income. Traditional values. Organic food. Easy residency.
Unfortunately they have extradition treaty with US.
Russia is looking for a few good men and women. 🙂
Organic food too!
https://www.rt.com/russia/576204-conservative-migrant-village-russia/
For what purpose, I wonder? I like Putin–but I do not trust any government.
https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/russias-ai-generated-mrna-cancer?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=520511&post_id=155856354&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=eok05&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Angela Merkel was said to have a bolt hole in Paraguay, years ago.
Uh, we have 50 States
“Had” 1861-65 Ended the States. Just a Fact minus the emotion of Abraham’s emancipation.
The advancement of the Slaves now includes most Americans living paycheck to paycheck on the USSA Plantation regardless of race.
Invaded by Illegal Aliens who live without Legally working at all.
DemocRats really love their New Plantations.
Deepseek is actually promoting a governmet manhatton style project to increase its ability to take over.
Now you know.
“There is no way to avoid this caste system outcome; in fact, many components of it are already in place.”
Caste system… H1-B fetish that employs 70+% Caste Indians.
Funny dat.
From just a few days ago: President Trump said it was the first question he asked the AI team (Musk, Sacks, presumably Ellison and Altman). Trump expressing the concern that it could be, “the rabbit that got away.” Looks like that rabbit is out already…..
Problem is we’re the rabbits with very little cover. We can try to hide or run away, but when the whole environment favors the hunters, the rabbits have little chance.
Are you ready for EVERYTHING you see to be fake?
Yikes!
IA requires data, our data, to build models to predict not only our individual actions but the actions of groups.
So I want AI to create a similar but alternate me to blur the data. Is this possible?
And what if we all take dozens of random pics and data downloads a day, will that gum up the works?
Garbage In, Garbage Out…? (GIGO)
I’ve recently noticed a lot of content on FB, etc. Stories of musicians, bands, songs of all genres; actors, movies, other celebrities. Language sounds artificial, even poetic – i.e. country songs described as “poignant ” – There is usually one element in the story that is obviously not true. Commenters are identifying and correct these specific errors. Some will call this AI generated content.
Are we being used to refine AL algorithms? Or is this a test of what the public will accept? Can GIGO be used to exploit this?
Thinking out loud…
Lots of content on YouTube is AI generated. Same concept you described. There are always tells…..at this point in time.
Search engine optimization requires new and hanging content. If you work with an SEO guy that knows his stuff he will recommend you have a blog on your site.
If it’s a Comercial site and you are a small timer with no time they will recommend one of many AI writing sites. The next trick is to make.it.easily findable to the search engine. Ods are your customers did not.come to your site.to.read so boring and.poorly written AI content wont.matter.
So when you search the internet and you get that AI summary of search they will get increasingly worse as they head for the information that AI has already determined to be the correct information to include in articles written.
In essence AI determins what is the most common info amplifies it and then search for the most common information. We should become completely.stagnent in search results at the speed of light.
This makes sense from what I am seeing.
I have been using AI-generated descriptions on eBay. As you say, it is distinctly different from how real people (especially real people in a hurry to list something) write. Do you suppose real people can learn to identify AI faster than AI can learn to ape real people? I don’t know if it’s possible to keep doing it, but we’ve got nothing to lose by trying.
My phone requires my face to unlock. It absolutely never works. I have to default to password to unlock. Has my face been hacked? This is not meant to be funny. I’m in my twilight years and will never be subjected to abuse by AI. Remember the Frog dear Treepers. All at once~ “SUNDANCE @ CTH.”
Oh, so you’ve taken the frog in the pot analogy and substituted a microwave, no jumping out allowed.
All at once indeed.
How messy.
My iPhone keeps trying to get me to use Touch ID.
But I found years ago (I think before I discovered CTH) that no matter how many times I specified my fingerprints, the devices can’t recognize them effectively.
If my hands are a little dirty or a little wet or a little greasy or a little dry or a little anything, the feature doesn’t work.
So I went back to the password.
However just yesterday I found a feature in the phone that wouldn’t work at all without the touch ID thing.
Bad omen indeed.
Want to complete a Strategically Necessary Objective?
Bring the production of all Fasteners, including the metals that they are made of, back to the U.S.A.
Wood screws, metal screws, nuts, washers, bolts?
All made offshore. Mainly China and India.
WTF is wrong with this nation?
Pay the American Criminals in Congress and Commerce a Public Bribe to keep them from taking Foreign Bribes to destroy the country.
much of this surveillance is already true… “smart phones”, “smart speakers”, outdoor cameras everywhere, ring cameras… on and on. All input to an AI colossus.
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The TV show “Person of Interest” has come true.
Boy, I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to see the CIA jumping out in front of the parade, reinventing themselves as something other than a bunch of subversives, rather Our Lord and Savior.
Not.
I guess they are cognizant of the words of Rahm Emmanuel, “Never let a good crisis go to waste”. This works really well when that crisis is one you brought into being yourself, no?
The installation of Techo-Fascism is a big damn deal.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
New rulers, same rules.
What we are witnessing with Trump and his allies is the rise of the more responsible rulers. They will use the same weapons, but they will use it in a more responsible way.
The real question is, how long can they maintain control. Are they just building something better for the less responsible to take over in 5, 10, 50 years? We will have to wait and see.
The creation and advancement of technology requires control. Advanced tech are all weapons systems. Weapons must remain controlled. The more advanced the tech, the more control required. Can you see why Trump and Musk are allowed to do what they do? There is a much deeper layer of control not easily seen. You can only see the shadows.
The entire world is on this same AI surveillance trajectory, we as a nation, a people, can not ignore and do nothing IMHO
So I hope Trump can also put us at the top along with the strictest laws of use. If he doesn’t, it will leave him with a very different legacy that i believe he wants to end with.
he MUST get congress to rewrite and eliminate some evil things (as discussed here) that previous admin’s signed into law that work against Americans. And we best not rest easy even with Trump in the W.H. it is up to each of us to hold Trump to accountability by letting our voices be heard. also there is so much swamp draining for us/we the people to do yet too, as we share a responsibility in how all this unfolds.
Final thought: together we are like no other force so lets get us organized before it’s too late.
Very Well Thought Out
and Stated , Deborah63k !
Thank You 💐
Just a matter of time for AI to recognize and erase Politically Protected Persons simply by eliminating or transforming their images in real time, or after capture.
Sundance has seen processed videos were the impossibility of identifying certain persons was a digital artifact, a post capture mask; AI will be able to do this in such sophisticated fashions none will know it was done, and certainly can’t prove it.
Not so fast. Fixity is an interesting concept.
Are you saying this generally for all analogue and digital data? Or are you saying there are areas of ambiguity?
Digitization itself is not a lossless method for conveying information. But more specifically, what is digitized can, at the least, be protected in a manner in which alteration is detectable: hash functions for example, chains of custody, etc.
Are you leaning into how our legal systems solve “reasonable doubt” in an era of AI that itself can create? That is a worthy question.
I’m seeing in my mind’s eye the end of an Apocalyptic movie where just before pulling down the Heavens the smirking AI says;
“THAT would have been the right effing question.”
Yeah, let’s not do this. We don’t want an Operation Warp Speed in AI. I don’t know all the ins and outs of AI, but having the government involved in development can’t be good on many levels.
maybe anyone who dontates to a Congressman should be granted status as an exempt staffer. Even a dollar.
Indulgences of a sort.
Catchy.
An Urgent Word from the Lord Before the Inauguration and a Warning
January 16th, 2025
by Amanda Grace
(excerpt)
Thus says the Lord, within the first three months the administration shall be sifted and within the first 6 months it shall be shaken, for AI is being welcomed in more than my voice, says the Lord, and that must change for the enemy dwells in AI. He lurks in the shadows he comes looking like a gift, says the Lord, and it is a curse it is a curse, you are bringing a curse upon yourselves that does not need to enter for the enemy comes with chains of power and prestige and smooth words that come forth from the mouth of corporate giants in the land. That come forth from the mouths of giants in social media, however, it is an unstable bridge that has been built and for such to be delivered there would have to be complete surrender to MY WILL, MY WAY AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TOO MANY BULLS AND RAMS AND COMPETING IDOLS IN THE ROOMS, SAYS THE LORD, AND THAT MUST BE CLEARED OUT AND IT WILL, SAYS THE LORD, OH IT WILL.
America: A Face-off and the Battle of Ai
January 25, 2025 Veronika West
A Now Word!
“A Face-off and the Battle of Ai — A New Tower of Babel Will Rise, as God’s Remnant Shines!”
Fellow Watchmen! I share the following Prophetic Word with the intent to raise a Clarion Call to Consistent, Fervent and Serious Prayer.
There are many pitfalls along the way, and it is crucial for The Watchmen to remain vigilant, standing on the wall and sounding the trumpet to warn, awaken, and call for action.
President Donald J. Trump will need even greater prayer cover and unwavering spiritual support during this second term than he did in his first!
I heard The Spirit say, “The Prayers of My Remnant in this moment will determine whether America emerges as a goat or sheep nation.
For I tell you, the Dragon is circling as The Nation navigates through this narrow place!”
I hear these Words, ”A face-off and The Battle of Ai — a new Tower of Babel will rise — as God’s Remnant shines!”
Then I heard The Spirit say, ”Yes! A face-off will unfold — Trump vs Musk — and many will say this is a battle of reality vs fiction — and truth vs counterfeit!
Listen! And many more will say, Trump must cut ties or count losses!
But I say — Watch and Pray! — as My Hand moves in mysterious ways — for the that which Satan desires by driving a wedge, will surely become as a sharpened tent peg driven into Leviathan’s head!
I say, Look up! It’s time to see beyond the fallen walls and great victory at Jericho that has given a Nation a firm foothold.
Remnant — get ready! For the Battle of Ai will now unfold, as a new Tower of Babel rises in the midst of Prodigal Nations standing on the threshold.
I say again — Watch and pray! — for I shall expose the sin of Achan in all that is being shaken, and those who resist and stand against My Right Hand, shall be utterly ruined and never recover!”
Reference Scriptures
The Battle of Ai — see Joshua 8. & Wiki.
The Tower of Babel — see Genesis 11:1-9 & Wiki.
The Sin of Achan — see Joshua 7:10-26 & Joshua 7 entire
Blessings to you all.
~ by Veronika West
We watch with regret and impotence as Pandora’s Box opens.
How about a national campaign? Loose Lips sink Ships! 1k credit for getting a landline, abolish ATM’s, stop using portable phones 🙂 Better yet, let’s fill the entire Senate with Amish. Thank you.
I actually have a copy of an s-f novel from the 60’s in which the only people left alive after a nuclear holocaust are the Amish.
More of Ellison’s handiwork.
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2016/09/post_183.html
Wish someone would redo the ATM meme. If you’re going to meme, spelling counts.
Boring
Donald Trump has already pushed aside all Constitutionalists and is aiming to build a ‘Benevolent Totalitarian State’.
Well, it was a good week anyway….
Why is “Artificial” better than Natural ??? Just asking inconvenient questions.
Like, Why is worth-Less Paper-digital “money” better than Constitutional Gold & Silver money???
btw, Convenience is best in Convalescent Care. Just Stay in Bed, get 3 meals a day, and get bathed once a week…… by robotics….. run by AI.
NEW WORLD ORDERING and You Know It in the Deep recesses of your mind. Deja Vu???
Will AI be wearing white and standing in front of sunny windows. That is a nursing home requirement for me
Another view: https://projectcamelotportal.com/2025/01/26/war-of-worlds-2-0-coming-to-skies-near-you/
Larry Ellison is not Enrico Fermi.
I’m not going to worry about AI until YouTube can get their subtitles right.
You really made me laugh with this, amongst all the apocalyptic voices preceding…
The conservative movement has been captured by the cult of personality, everything people hoped Trump would be did not pan out it seems, no swamp prosecutions (FISA 702 abuse), no mass deportations at least in the first term. People are seeing these lifelong hyper leftist technocrats like Musk, Ackman, Thiel, Zuck, Bezos, etc. start to sing a slightly different tune and now they’re happily marching for them, it’s sad and wild. It shows at the end of the day, how bad of an idea democracy or even the idea of it is, the average person on the street deserves ZERO say in the geopolitical future of the country because they are too dumb to handle that responsibility.
This sounds like days late and billions in excess. Chinese did it for 6 million (not billions). This is make work project for rich corporations.
I believe you, Sundance. I appreciate your clarity on this momentous issue.
So many MAGA victories in the past week… and then this huge bad news…
Press onward and stay steadfast.
Sounds exactly like domestic intelligence is spying on all of us described at American Stasi, with total tech control.
“In the shadows, likely over centuries, global elites, with more money and real power than we could imagine, have assembled a massive global, private-sector, CIA-like operation. It is essentially a complete intelligence agency, with professional intelligence operatives, and an extensive East German Stasi-like ground network of civilian informants, embedded in Western nations, all around you, made up of your neighbors. The only thing it does not have is a nation to serve and any kind of oversight body to reign in its excesses.”
https://americanstasi.com
Rememer the T Rex song, Get It On, Bang A Gong?
At the end of song it says, ” Meanwhile i’m still thinking”
This is playing in the background while the government is knocking on your door and asking, is there anything I can do for you?
Removing silo trash is a good thing.
Promoting the coordination of a government style operation warp speed creation of an AI like the manhatton project of WWII will create a monster that will get out of control and either enslave or kill us all, is madness.
“Meanwhile i’m still thinking” says the ever increasing skynet AI.
NO method to the madness of total AI control. Just pedal to the metal.
🥹😳
Please Tell me where the safety lies…all I see, WARPSPEED to our demise. 🙏 check the current Doomsday Clock ⏰
Damnable fools who unleashed this all on us!
I think we’re seeing the beginning of the end of humankind.
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FRACTAL TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE!
I was able to use deep seek on my desktop. I asked it to do something. It took about 30 sec in some cases to get and answer but the answer was worth waiting for.
When I asked in effect for a better more detailed answer I got one in about 35 sec.
I was pleased and surprized the answer was detailed and what i had asked for.
I use gpt4 sometimes.
Compaired to gpt4 it does seem better.
Deep seek is free.
I would not install it on a phone.
I can see why its got the tech industry shook up.
It improves the answer with each prompt without an excuse of some kind like gpt4 does.
Gpt4 better come out with an update to match deep seek or the tech industry will see deepseek gain a big following real fast.
The prompts i asked it would not have been resolved with gpt4 the same.
It not just a difference but a big difference.