The Silicon Valley immigration priority was not the topic I thought would explode and fracture the tenuous MAGA alignment with the New Big Tech group represented by Elon Musk and his billionaire network. However, we learn more every day.
This is a jaw-dropping moment to watch unfold as a very influential sector of the political discourse begins a full-frontal attack against those who are pointing out how the tech community abuse H1B visas to replace American workers. In the background, of course, is the context of widespread immigration policy fraud being one of the priorities for the average Trump supporter.
The Silicon Valley team do not seem to review discussion of the H1B manipulation/fraud within the larger American economy as a problem, as long as the discussion of the visa fraud does not impact their business models. However, as soon as the H1B abuse started to be framed around Silicon Valley’s participation therein, the New Big Tech group take a nuclear war approach to defending their interests.
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Having followed the immigration issue for a long time, yet specifically only having a big picture review of the H1B visa issues, it has been astounding to watch how Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks and the Silicon Valley supporters and influencers are responding to having the H1B visa fraud confronted. The self-interest in their defense is just astronomical to watch unfold.
Empowered by what can only be reasonably defined as their perceived influence over President Trump, the new-era Tech team are quite forcefully telling the MAGA base of Trump-supporting American workers that their concerns, views and perspectives are irrelevant.
It appears that most of the explosive sentiments revolve around H1B visas in the tech sector issued to Indian workers specifically. Apparently, the friendships, networks and teams attached to the sector of computer engineering carry with them an emotional component. I guess that should not be a surprise considering this is essentially a peer-to-peer wagon circling, in defense of the H1B visa problems in the tech sector.
As said before, it always appeared the MAGA alignment with Silicon Valley would not be an issue until the interests of the billionaire tech team came into conflict with the MAGA base. I did not anticipate the fracture being so fast, nor did I anticipate immigration would be the trigger. However, H1B visa issuance is apparently a key part of the Silicon Valley business model.
That said, several pragmatic aspects of the discussion are now being lost amid a very toxic shouting match that has begun. President Trump and JD Vance are, perhaps understandably, staying very quiet at the moment. However, that silence is soon to be impossible as both sides of a very divisive issue are going to eventually demand President Trump to weigh in.
I will try to cut through some of the toxic noise so that we can discuss the larger issues.
Theo Wold provides some context:
“I led the drafting of legislation in the Trump ‘45 White House to create a new legal immigration framework. I saw firsthand what happens when ANY visa reform is proposed: executives from the biggest multinationals and lobbyists from all kinds of industries are banging on the door, demanding to keep what they have.
What they have is a tangled morass of visa classes that are carve-outs, handouts, and special favors to particular industries, bought and paid for through decades of lobbying feckless members of Congress and presidential administrations. Industries lobby for the foreign workers they claim to “need,” and then they get a visa class carve-out, which they protect (and seek to expand) at all costs.
And there are enormous costs for our nation – costs that fall on the American worker with devastating consequences. The statistics bear that out: job gains go to foreign-born workers while American workers post net job losses.
I also know this firsthand because I grew up a working-class kid, watching my father (and by extension, our family) suffer from unfair foreign labor competition.
For too long, Americans have been largely unaware of the source of these problems because the policies are designed to be too complicated and are made largely invisible to public scrutiny. I’m glad the right is having an open debate about legal immigration. It is past time.
To be clear, the difference between O1Bs and H1Bs matters in this debate, for example, because these visas are intended to accomplish very different goals and are entirely different in scale, BUT both visa classes are rife with abuse. (Plenty of Reggaeton stars and anti-American athletes enter the U.S. on O-1 visas.) Essentially ALL visa classes are abused. Again, that’s because these things exist to serve special interests on one side of the labor market (and it’s not the side of the American worker).
The debate can’t be confined to a single industry – it’s about Big Tech, Big Ag, tourism and hospitality, transportation (airlines, trucking), the media & sports entertainment complex (yes, the NFL and MLB have their own special visa classes and their own special treatment by DHS and State) and many many others. They all want special visas to import cheap and convenient foreign labor. Even the roofing industry is now seeking its own special visa class. And all of these special classes get expanded over time, allowing the American worker to be flooded with foreign competitors for no reason other than labor savings for employers.
I, like many Americans, voted for a sealed border and an immigration moratorium. Americans need to retake control of our immigration system — how many are coming in, for what reasons, and for how long. One question absent from our current system: how does this individual immigrant benefit the American nation and her people? No more blanket exemptions or economic rationales. Immigration is a regime-based question, as both Hamilton and Jefferson wrote on extensively, and our system should reflect that Americans must also demand meaningful investment in assimilation and integration requirements for legal immigrants here already.’ (Source)
Within the debate, those who advocate for the H1B visa process are quick to call anyone a “racist” or “nativist” who stands against it. Within the tech industry the use of H1B is positioned as vital for their success.
As can be noted by the extreme position on the pro-H1B side of the discussion, they view this debate as a zero-sum contest. The position of Musk and the Silicon Valley tech group is that if the H1B process is stopped, American technological advancements will immediately cease to exist.
When it is pointed out that Silicon Valley discriminates against white Americans with engineering degrees and or skills, Silicon Valley shouts back the same arguments as the DEI promoters Musk claims to abhor. Musk and the tech group immediately use the Alinsky attack method (isolate, ridicule, marginalize) against anyone who speaks forcefully against their interests. The Musk allies and influencers then pile on. It is something remarkable to watch happen.
Years of Americans in various business sectors being forced to train their foreign replacements before the Americans are terminated from employment, underscore a very hardened stance against the H1B abuse. The decision by the Silicon Valley network to dismiss this problem because they want to sustain their current business operations is not going to end well unless some cooler heads immediately intercede.
Nicole Shanahan, Robert F Kennedy’s former running mate – and also a Silicon Valley network influencer, puts it this way:
“Having lived in Silicon Valley for 20+ years and founded and sold an AI company, I’ve seen firsthand how we rely on H-1B to fill grueling, unglamorous coding jobs. These jobs are essential, and we need capable people doing them. But the system needs an overhaul.
Here’s why:
To keep pace with global competitors like China and India, we need Americans ready to tackle the challenging jobs in these fields. We have them, but often our STEM grads turn their noses up at these entry-level, low-paying coding positions after investing in a costly education.
So why are immigrants from India, China, and elsewhere so eager for these jobs? It’s not because they’re glamorous or because these roles don’t exist back home. And definitely not because they offer high salaries. There’s something else driving this…
The undeniable proof that the United States is the single greatest nation on earth is that people from every corner of the globe dream of coming here—not to China or India—but America.
I take issue with some of the discourse I’ve read online today suggesting “lazy American culture” is the main driver for why we need to continue the H-1B program. Let’s be real: tech companies getting massive breaks on cheap labor at the expense of the American way of life is predatory.
Blaming our culture for why American STEM grads won’t take underpaying jobs is ridiculous and insulting.
The system we’ve constructed with H-1B visas, whether we like it or not, incentivizes people to come here and serve as essentially indentured servants for Big Tech, taking on the tough, grueling jobs that few here in America are excited to perform at the current suppressed salaries.
In return, if you’re good at your job, you’re then put on a fast track to get a Green Card, which means legal status and the chance to bring your family over through chain migration.
I’m reminded of this famous line by our second President, John Adams: “I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.”
Just because our kids have the “right” to chase artistic dreams like music and painting, doesn’t mean we should bring in hundreds of thousands of foreign workers to displace them in math-intensive careers. It’s a two-fold issue: both our education and immigration policies are broken. Instead of tackling these complex issues head-on, Big Tech monopolies and tech VCs are looking for the fastest way to outcompete globally and become industry giants. It’s paid off—look at the insane valuations of these companies!
We can’t entirely blame them for this approach—it’s been the industry norm for 40 years—but we can insist they seek out the tough, lasting solutions. No more temporary fixes.
I was asked if teaching American kids coding from a younger age would make them want these coding jobs. My response? No, it won’t. These jobs aren’t fun, people.
But, do I think removing the incentive of attaining legal status would reduce the volume of foreign applicants? Absolutely.
And, guess what? That might finally force Big Tech to look for workers right here at home (and pay them a competitive wage). Americans expect fair pay, which means these companies would have to start sharing their wealth rather than hoarding it.
Meritocracy is key to America’s greatness, but so are justice and fairness—we shouldn’t keep rewarding an industry that has curtailed free speech and American values. After Trump’s recent victory, the everyday worker feels empowered like never before. They won’t surrender that power, and frankly, it’s not right to imply they should.
There are numerous ways to improve our immigration system while safeguarding the American labor force (and I say “force” because it truly is capable, creative, and powerful).
Here are two straightforward steps to start the process:
1. Immigration policy must be designed to protect the American way of life and its workforce. Singapore’s work permit program, which they designed in the ’90s, was built from this standard and could provide good inspiration. They use a modern-day designation system to manage the influx of labor across various sectors.
⁃ Employers face levies (essentially fees that employers have to pay for each foreign worker they hire. It’s a way to manage the number of foreign workers coming in by making it more expensive to employ them, encouraging companies to also look for talent locally).
⁃ There are Dependency Ceilings, which essentially limit the number of foreign workers based on the local workforce—this is KEY.
⁃ They impose restrictions on the countries from which workers can come.
⁃ Permits are diversified across industries to ensure balance.
2. Special economic zones are amazing and can transform local tech job markets. Hiring locally is going to be critical for making sure Americans are taking key tech industry roles AND able to support their families.
If we really want to lift America to heights unseen in generations—not just talk about it, but actually do it—then we can’t continue to stick to outdated strategies that have harmed Americans. We owe it to ourselves and our communities to aim higher and do better.” (source)
As I watch this debate unfold, I find myself finally realizing why all the Silicon Valley tech people were such staunch Democrats. Their worldview does not: (1) seem to comprehend American Economic Nationalism as a priority; (2) seem to appreciate the importance of true liberty in the creation of the remarkable outcomes from American exceptionalism; and (#3) they appear to be inside a bubble of self-interest, unattached and unaffected by the economic issues that have seriously harmed the MAGA base.
In essence, the Silicon Valley network represented by Elon Musk team, does not connect in the same way to the important priorities of middle America. The technocrats are, well, Technocrats.
Watching this debate unfold is quite remarkable.
It is supposed to be Make AMERICA Great Again, not make H1B Visa holders great again.
Years ago, Disney fired a lot of their IT and accounting personnel and then hired foreign workers. They, again, were ahead of the curve, screwing America. Let’s come to a sensible agreement: 1. No H1B to save money, 2. Fix America’s woke education system.
There’s a Judas in the MAGAverse.
https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/12/28/theres-a-judas-in-the-magaverse-n4935483
Somebody crunched the numbers.
A good number of intelligent people are being purposefully obtuse in the debate…
It’s basically the same old broken Woke record: Loads of straw men + screams of “Racists!!!”
It’s back to 2008 + the Tea Party Days…
https://x.com/robertmsterling/status/1873174742129361084?s=61
We don’t need Vivek, we don’t need Elon. Nice knowing you guys.
Discussions have likely occurred in private. Expect a unified message soon, there’s no choice in the matter.
Tesla was built on the back of the American taxpayer and the American buyer of combustion engine vehicles. Until recently, its yearly profits were entirely made up of carbon offset monies paid by combustion engine vehicle manufacturers to Tesla and by money given by the taxpayer to purchasers of Tesla vehicles. Those amounts exceeded the annual profit of Tesla every year until very recently.
He needs to get out of Doge.
Wonder what the Sunday talk shows will be about🤣
Cuck Toad is spinning like a top as we type!
1. MAGA civil war
2. DOGE on the rocks
3. MAGA racists
4. Democrats to block election certification
5. Ukraine winning but could lose if Trump doesn’t support them
I just went to Pres Trump’s Truth Social account.
Our President is One-of-a-Kind:
Now he’s calling Al Sharpton – Reverend AI
Too Funny! Make America Laugh Again!
Ha ha ha.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113730668242093044
Thanks RF for coming to the rescue, Everybody check out President Trump’s post linked above, it’s hilarious!
Is anybody getting this – Reverend AI (artificial intelligence).
yeah
change the topic
to a 7 yrar old’s level.
perhaps you are just what muskrat speaks of.
But Trump _totally owned_ an irrelevant figure on the left! LOLZ! /sarc
Botox WEF Maria will be all over it.
Stop all immigration for three years while we talk about it.
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Also, if you get a foreign customer service rep whose accent is so thick that it’s hard to understand, you can request an American rep.
I recently found this out when I was getting very frustrated because I had trouble understanding the rep in an already frustrating situation – the very reason for calling in the first place.
I don’t know if that’s the case with all companies who employ foreigners, but simply asking is a small thing that can go a long way if we ALL do it.
Power in numbers, no pun intended.
Point of clarity: I was not the one who initially asked for an American rep. It was the rep himself who asked ME since I kept asking him to repeat himself and more slowly. I was actually surprised that an American agent was even an option.
It is kinda funny to think we no longer speak English, we speak “American” and boy oh boy there is a difference. Nothing irritates me faster than a foreigner on the phone dealing w/tech issues trying to speak English.
Whenever I get a CS rep with a heavy acccent, I hang up and start all over again. It takes a while, but there is no other option.
Starting all over just means you get another one, possibly with an even worse accent, and let me tell you, I once taught ESL to Indian doctors. So they are some of the worst that you get on phone calls. At least the doctors try even though some are quite arrogant and think they know more than you because they studied English in their British-occupied country, which is not American English.
That particular problem is why I usually go for the online chat instead of a phone call. Not being able to understand the speaker is very frustrating. They invariably speak very fast, as well.
Friday I made a call to a company and the call was answered “press one for English”. I immediately felt a rush of negativity. In America English should be automatic and press a darn button if you speak some other language.
Well, my very close relative who is involved in very high profile hiring says she is not allowed to hire white male Americans, only Eastern Indians. She personally knows well-qualified white males for the same positions, but she is not allowed to even present their resumes.
Good for you, I have never been able to get one even when my closest family member was the boss of them.
The Dems, Libs and Rinos must be laughing hysterically.
Reading some – some NOT ALL – of the replies on this posting probably makes them believe some TCTH commentators are like the so-called Republicans in the House. “Damn the icebergs – full speed ahead” – “every man for himself” – “Screw party unity – I’m for me, myself and I.”
And PDJT hasn’t been sworn in yet.
How dare Americans protest our own systemic discrimination! We must all quietly sit and nod like peasants while the foreign billionaire calls us “retarded,” “subtarded,” “racist,” and angrily curses at us. After all, we don’t want to the Left to laugh at us!
When I am told to F myself in the face I’m for burning the whole thing down and taking no prisoners. I’m not taking a cussing from someone who arranges his companies around the government teat.
never mind who said or where he’s from
it is beyond acceptable in Any case.
perhaps the weight loss meds have side effects like
Sudden Onset RETARDATION, assburgers disease. consider also, the names of his own offspring!
not to mention his “ morals”.
Jesus will be his Final judge.
In the meantime, in case Judgement Day is in the distant future –America first!
Haha, have you ever fallen for the psyop. Trump bad. Vance bad. Ramaswamy bad. MAGA bad.
Sure, burn down the MAGA victory over 130,000 H-1B visas workers, who work and pay their way.
Compare that to the 20 million or more illegals who are totally uneducated, can’t speak English, and are costing “you” the taxpayer billions per year, plus depriving you of access to the services you pay for.
Sure, go ahead and have your hissy fit and burn it all down. The CIA, FBI, Democrats and the Left are full of glee!
Sparky, I don’t need your permission, or condescension to have a “hissy fit.”
Stating an opinion does not equate with “burn it all down.”
Drama queen, much?
I havnt fallen for anything and I dont start stuff but I know how to finish a fight. Elon and Haji should have stuck to their knitting over at DOGE instead of telling people like myself to go F ourselves, then a lecture from you. Im not interested in any of it. Stop all immigration!!! I dont take my orders from the elitists or their pawns.
With all due respect, you are ignorant on this topic. H1B’s do NOT “pay their way”. Their family members take away American jobs while they suck up public benefits. Then they start a chain migration chain that taxpayers subsidize ad infinitum.
This issue is about unity- the unity of citizens of the United States of America.
America First–
that is what we voted for.
In spite of the fact that the H1B Visa Program is a total fraud on the American people President Trump needed Elon Musk and the other tech billionaires to beat Kamala Harris.
We will probably have to live with the H1B Program because President Trump owes Musk who gave $250 million to President Trump’s campaign plus the 1,000% endorsement.
Remember, if President Trump lost, and that was a very likely possibility he’d be spending the rest of his life in court and possibly in federal prison. In addition, we’d be spending the next eight years with Kamala Harris as President with 20 million more illegal immigrants, endless wars and the end of oil and natural gas!
Look, the H1B scam is a small price to pay for winning the election.
Tell the thousands if not millions that lost their job theirs was a small price to pay so a billion could be president.
how cavalier of you
Most tech workers, STEM graduates and STEM students vote 90% Democrat and voted for Kamala Harris. The professors that taught them are flaming LGBTQ Lefts as are they companies who might employ them.
They can fight their own battles! We dodged a bullet not having Kamala Harris as President and it came with a price we will have to pay.
“Most tech workers, STEM graduates and STEM students vote 90% Democrat and voted for Kamala Harris.”
Do have any reference to back this up? Or are you just pulling numbers out……..
He’s just pulling them out…none of the considerable number I know are or did. He’s simply conflating the Gulag wokersters with the entire nation of STEM grads.
This scam has spiraled out of control in multiple industries. The abuse of jobs being filled with foreign workers is not merely specific to the tech industry. The abuse is rampant and affects millions of jobs to the detriment of the American workforce. Do your research.
Hospitals are notorious for using foreign workers. I am a former healthcare worker and almost died as a patient myself. Housekeeping was mostly Haitians. I acquired an infection from sloppy cleaning. They spent 5 minutes cleaning my room and didn’t speak English.
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One of the more questionable assertions I have read in this entire thread.
Millions of jobs lost to H1B visas? And here I was thinking that the previous explanation was essentially correct: Wall Street transplanting core industries in toto overseas to take advantage of lower wage labor and oligopoly pricing power.
Well I’ll be ****ed. Those jobs never went overseas. Obama wasn’t the villain he had been painted to be. The jobs never left the country – they were all lost to H1B imports!
The two “scenarios” YOU assert are not mutually exclusive. BOTH are actually accountable for American job losses. Consider yourself well ****ed, indeed.
Over the course of the last 40 year tech boom I think millions of jobs lost is reasonable.
Still true.
That’s how politics works sometimes. One side never gets everything they want. Never. It will always by thus. Even with Trump.
It’s best you learn this now to temper future disappointments. Politicians have to compromise. Trump owes Musk. It is no more complicated than that.
So if Trump owes musk,does that mean musk OWNS Trump? I didn’t vote for the south African and I sure didn’t vote to be lectured about my values
My ancestors were NATIVE Americans and Musk can go to h###.
Yes, it is now President Musk.
Reread the comment you are responding to. The word is OWES not OWNED. Looks like 7 other people didn’t read the comment either.
I read it correctly and responded as I see fit. I suggest you reread both…I know the difference in, ‘Owes’ and ‘Owned’
we the people do NOT have to compromise!
we’ve been doing so all of my 70 years of life!
he is not elected. even if,
it is a governmeant of WE
THE PEOPLE.
he is free to say as he will.
but if he can’t behave politely, he can be exorted to pooh bear’s area. his attitude fits right in.
Musk, however, does not own President Trump.
Oh for heaven’s sake, do some research before you spew nonsense. H-1B workers are not allowed in by the millions.
Around 85,000 per year are given visas.
In comparison, Obama and Biden let in 20-40 million illegals.
You are being played.
34 YEARS OF H1B VISAS MULTIPLIED BY 85,000 IS ALMOST 3 MILLION.
You are 100 percent correct. It’s common sense , but some folks just don’t get it!
Thank you!
“…President Trump owes Musk who gave $250 million to President Trump’s campaign…..
Is that what it costs to buy a president’s obedience these days?
“if President Trump lost, and that was a very likely possibility…” Says who?
“the H1B scam is a small price to pay for winning the election.” To clarify what you mean, let me paraphrase this- “extortion is a small price to pay for winning an election.
Do you think Trump’s victory was inevitable when 75M voted for Kamala Harris? Do you think Trump would have won without Elon buying Twitter and restoring free speech, there? Do you think he would have won just with our $50, $100, or $3,300 individual donations?
Verifiable, chain of custody, legal votes win elections.
I’m never, ever kissing the US’s largest welfare queen’s 💍 or anything else. It’s not my style but you do you.
Trump won in 2020 without Elon.
This ^
75 million votes, just not from 75m voters…
Yes, yes, and yes.
Lololol. Again with this nonsense. President Trump was clearly on the path to winning. That is why Musk et al jumped onto his coattails a mere 4 months before election day. There exists ZERO hard data to support the lie that President Trump could not win without Musk. ZERO.
There was no coalition. There was only Donald Trump. Musk, Kennedy, Gabbard, all just hitched up with a known winner for personal gain.
Evening Alley – well said.
Morning, Harrison. Thanks.
The Democrats were clearly on the path to cheating again and President Trump would have lost without Musk and the weight of the tech billionaires that endorsed him and contributed hundreds of millions of dollars. Why do you think that the women of the AMC got scared and backed off?
It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat a demonstrable lie. It will never morph into truth.
Trump won in 2020 without any of them.
Exactly!
President Trump restricted h1b visas Biden rolled that back. It’s going to be fine. President Trump has a good understanding of the issue. What’s valuable is the exposure of Musk and others as woke lite. Racist? Come on, man.
I agree with your assessment that Trump needed Musk and his new-found allies to win the election as convincingly as he did.
I disagree with your assessment that H-1B is a total fraud on the American people!
H-1B needs reform, not elimination. Highly skilled people in engineering and the sciences are a boon to America, and I know whereof I speak because my son-in-law, a software systems specialist from Kerala, India, is now a proud American citizen who works 60 hours a week to support my daughter and granddaughters and pays a helluva lot in taxes.
Scamming the system happens under H-1B when it’s used to import lower skill level clerical people at the kind of starvation wages no American could support a family on…and that qualifies as fraud!
But I wholeheartedly agree that H-1B, is a small price to pay for getting the second coming of Trump instead of the moronic, Marxist word salad-spewer, Kamala!
We need the top 0.1% of the world’s elite intellectuals. Not mere coders who will work for less to do routine tasks, albeit at a higher than average level.
How is the rest of the world supposed to make their countries great if we continue to siphon off their top talent?
The answer is that they can’t. We can grow our own.
Agree. Various AI engines can already develop coding in many different computer languages (including legacy languages like COBOL). They can debug coding, and analyze existing program code for improvement or modification. This sort of development, if implemented by IT, should lessen or eliminate the need for coders doing routine coding tasks.
There’s an O-1 visa for those “special” people that your daughter couldn’t live without.
Sounding like Elon now-whatever it takes to make your wants happen regardless of the destruction to others.
There are hundreds of ex Disney IT employees families who were destroyed- bankrupted-their children mattered too.
Don’t let your son in law take your granddaughters to India. Are they raising your granddaughters as Hindu? How does he feel about that whole caste system thing?
So, Trump is for sale and Musk bought him?
Trump won the election, not Musk.
In a perfect world I would totally agree with you but after witnessing the corruption and crime by government gangsters over the past eight years (at least!) we all know that power and winning doesn’t come cheap.
I thought Elon jumped on board because he thought Trump was valiant in his response to getting shot w/fight, fight, fight. Or was Elon the South African pulling our leg?
This from PJ Media continues along those lines –
https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/12/28/theres-a-judas-in-the-magaverse-n4935483
Food for thought??
more proof of muskrats claim
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Not acceptable.
No, you don’t have to live with it, you let others do the dirty work so you don’t get your hands dirty! Let your allies in Congress and the Stephen Millers and that type do the heavy lifting and plotting and scheming! Pres Trump can say basically say a bunch of nice things while others do the dirty work!!! 🥴
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This not an either- or proposition.
NO! Black mail is still black mail!
Exactly. These people are amoral weirdos or racists.
Thiel takes blood transfusions from children trying to extend life.
Musk makes babies with various baby mamas that he selects for particular reasons.
Vivek is an American who feels his ethnicity is superior both in intellect and culture to the black and white Americans who built and died for this country.
Vance has a lot of questionable associations and coincidences that if he were a Democrat we’d all call out.
Perfect objective meter!
God Bless America
the way I see it
its time to start acting like Democrats
keep on screaming until we get our way!
NO MAGA NO PEACE
screw H1B, Elon and Vivek!
I expect Big Daddy has already had a little talk with Elon.
Things should quiet down tomorrow.
I believe PTrump came out in favor of the H1B program today. So there is that latest info. How much talking to he gave to the DOGE boys in regards to implementation of the programs remains to be seen.
Yes Cjzak, you put your finger right on the crux of the matter.
I don’t want quiet. I want noise and lots of it. I’m counting on the MSM, rooting for them to flay Elon. Then turn to Trump and ask “Sir, what’s it gonna be?”
I haven’t any pretending left in me.
Indeed. NONE of us should.
H1B visa abuses have turned trucking into an industry I no longer (after 35 years of driving) recognize. Every day, no matter where I am, I listen to Eastern Europeans and Middle Easterners try to communicate with truck stop cashiers in broken English, at best, or use their phone as a translator. Now, how can you read road signs or other pertinent information if you need a translator?
Not to mention the number of head wraps and sandals worn by drivers all year long, even winter.
I’m semi-retired. I do overnight guard duty in a shack at a compound with 5 LG plants.
90% of the truckers that stop are Hispanic + have to use their phone to translate.
I’ve a proof of disregard for roadway signage incidentally. One of these foreign sourced drivers was driving a dump truck loaded with gravel. Seems he could not be bothered to observe a posted 10K pound weight limit for a covered bridge in Gorham Maine a few months ago.
Take one guess what happened to the bridge and the dump truck.
I know a cook who can’t get them from dumping grease down the drain.
Ignorance is one thing. Continuing with it afterwards being told not to, another.
Ignorance can be educated, stupidity is for life.
A small correction; the bridge was posted 6000 pounds (3 Tons). Anyhow, here is a video from not long after the incident that gives some context.
Joshua Polewarzyk was the driver. He escaped with minor injuries. Same can’t be said for the bridge.
Germans have been considered the best engineers in the world. They developed the atomic weapons and our space rockets.
Did they lose their skills or are they just too white to be hired?
That was the 1st tip-off to me that Musk + Vivek weren’t being honest:
98% of the talk from them was on India + 2% on China.
I pointed to Japan + South Korea to ask – if we’re talking about the Best of the Best to give the US the cutting edge, why is nobody talking about poaching Talent from nations with a longer track record of success in Tech…?
We should let H1B visa holder work for any company and be paid the prevailing market rate for workers in that field. Then we will have only the world’s best people coming to fill true shortages in labor markets.
Musk is pro Putin (fact) and India (Ramaswampy) likes Russia. So, naturally, Putin’s boy would insist they come from a Russian ally and not from Germany (which Russia hates).
And I don’t care that some of you people have a thing about mentioning Russia. It’s right in front of you and if Trump won’t wise up and nip this in the bud NOW and investigate and deport Musk himself, the Democrats will…. and will then also open a new investigation on _Trump_. So you can acknowledge the 1,000 lb gorilla in the room and actually WIN, for real, for a change, or just keep your head buried in the sand because you find any mention of Russia to be too much for you to handle!
Too white to be hired ..
I do wonder however how many h1-b holders are raping and killing and taking over apartment buildings? Just askin
Have you ever looked into the horrific rape problem that India has? One of the worst in the world. How many of those rapists are coming over here on H1B?
You tell us, if you really know.
We will wait.
Do you need a h1-b visa holder to look that up for you?
While you’re researching, research acid attacks & the Indian caste system & where you & your posterity will land within one.
They are working that should answer your question
Why do you care if billionaires have to pay a little bit more money for the skills they claim to want? Juuuust askin’….
Why do you entertain the idea that that will actually ever happen?
Oh great, now it’s devolved into apples and cucumber logic.
Here’s a quality Twitter from someone who combed through the official H1B data.
tl;dr: “A casual perusal of the data shows that this isn’t a program for the top 0.1% of talent, as it’s been described. This is simply a way to recruit hundreds of thousands of relatively lower-wage IT and financial services professionals.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1873174358535110953.html
From AI
The statement “100,000 British controlled India with 300 million people” refers to the historical period of British rule in India, known as the “British Raj,” where a relatively small number of British officials and military personnel managed to govern a vast population of around 300 million people in India through a system of administration and control, often utilizing local power structures and suppressing dissent.
Key points about this statement:
The number “100,000”:
This represents the approximate number of British officials and military personnel who were responsible for governing the Indian subcontinent during the peak of British rule which lasted almost 200 years.
“300 million people”:
This refers to the approximate population of India under British rule at that time.
President Trump has always been in favor of HB1 visas. His complaint has been with abuse of the program.
President Trump wants to narrow the requirements to only the very, very, highest accomplished persons to bring further innovation to areas of technology and science.
Is the current system corrupt?. Absolutely . This really does need to be addressed.
Many years ago Australia put restrictions on immigration that would restrict entry to only those that would fill a position that Australians could not fill. Something we should look at.
This really is a complicated issue and considering that the US is at the bottom of the global scale for education it has to be considered.
Even if the HB1 visa issue is resolved, we are in danger of falling down on the job of producing an educated workforce if students are graduated without being able to be at least accomplished at some STEM level. We are told that a high percentage of students are unable to read or write at grade level.
The biggest problem is the University acceptance of foreign students over Americans. This is where the problem lies in my opinion. America first when it comes to higher education. Should never happen.
Agree on higher ed, but they are never giving up that foreign student full tuition paying gravy train that subsidizes their DEI initiatives and administrative growth.
That would be the time to stop giving those particular Universities government grants. Why on earth should tax payers pay for the exclusion of their own citizens from higher learning. Stop it now.
A lot of times, the foreign students’ parents are paying with American foreign aid dollars. How else does a colonel in a third world army have the money to pay for a child’s education at a private American university?
Mega MAGA Headache
Trump: ‘I Have Always Been in Favor’ of H-1B Visas
‘It’s a Great Program’
He’s aware of the abuse, he only wants it to accomplish its narrow purpose.
And I guarantee Elon got a thorough scolding for his post.
Trump is a PR man, there’s no way he lets that go.
Trust me Elon is grounded until further notice.
Yes, why do our best universities. like Harvard, have over 10% foreign students? Shouldn’t we place a priority on educating our own?
Part of that is that these foreigners come with government funds and pay full freight (a BS retail price tuition) while the American may be paying in-state tuition. Creates a certain incentive.
With honorable mention of foreign countries “donations” to said universities.
Not in 2016. He came out strongly against the broken H1B program.
I worked in tech for many years. I have hired and worked with many employees on H1B visas. Here are some observations I hope can add to the discussion.
You will never find someone here on an H1B visa in a top level job at a tech company. You won’t find them as the Chief Technology Officer or a department head or anywhere in the executive team. You will find a few top level people who came to the US on H1B and then stayed long enough to get a Green Card or even become a US Citizen. But people employed while on H1B are locked into one company and usually locked into one job function. They can’t start a business or switch companies without losing the visa. They are basically indentured workers. If the company no longer wants them, the company can pull the visa and send them home. So they are very docile and uncomplaining workers, totally dependent on pleasing their boss.
H1B visas are typically used to fill very specific entry-level and junior level positions. Hiring someone on H1B is a substitute for hiring a recent college graduate or somebody with 2-3 years experience.
So yes, H1B visas do reduce US employment. Worse they block entry level recent graduates from getting in the door where they can build experience, make connections and grow their careers.
H1Bs almost always are hired to fill an identified immediate need for a very specific, niche skill. For example, a project might need a programmer or engineer with a very highly specialized skillset. US candidates typically have a much more generalized skillset because they want to have a broad range of possibilities instead of being pigeonholed into one narrow function. Narrow skills in the tech industry become obsolete very quickly, in a couple of years or sometimes even less. But some foreign graduates do have narrow, niche skills (but lack broader skills.) So the foreign hire can immediately get to work on that one particular task where a US hire would need time to learn a new app or new software or new design tool.
In a few years Artificial Intelligence tools might be able to duplicate many of the jobs now done using H1B employees. AI can write code and solve specific well defined problems, just like how H1B employees are often used now.
Nobody hires H1Bs for developmental positions. Nobody spends money training or developing H1Bs. Companies plug-and-play an H1B into a specific job and when that job is done the visa is done. Companies get allocated a number of H1B visas so if they fire one they can hire another on that quota. They are the ultimate disposable employee. Every tech company’s competitors are using H1Bs, overworking and underpaying them, so if your company does not you are putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage.
India in particular has technical schools that will train people very narrowly in a specific function or tool or application. So it is often possible to find an employee from India who is already trained in whatever the hot new tech of the month is. It is a perfectly viable career strategy for a top student in India to intentionally narrow their skillset just so they can get an H1B visa to work in the USA for a few years. Then when they get sent back to India they now have experience in a US company and were paid much more than they would have gotten in India. They can then get hired into a mid or senior position in an Indian tech company.
To a US manager, hiring the foreigner on H1B makes sense to complete a project on time with the minimum hassle. But for US tech industry as a whole, for the nation as a whole, it would be far better to hire US workers, train them and advance them through the industry. What makes sense on a micro level is bad at the macro level. What is “too costly” at the micro level is a valuable investment at the macro level. The US will never regain its competitive strength if we shut-out and disincentivize our own technical graduates.
Excellent piece, thankyou.
Interesting-thank you
Interesting insight. Well written. Thanks for the post
Great essay … a voice of reason!
Would agree with all but one thing – “Every tech company’s competitors are using H1Bs, overworking and underpaying them, so if your company does not you are putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage.”
It’s a false statement and a short sited one. It’s a competitive disadvantage to not develop your own talent pool, both immediate and long term. It’s a competitive advantage to make the best of whatever it is you do, regardless of cost. The cheap route is cut throat and business never guaranteed, whereas the best product will always have a market.
What do you think about letting H1Bs migrate from employer to employer so they are not so “docile”?
They’ll remain docile until they’re told that they’ll never, ever get a green card. Then watch the fireworks.
Can’t wait for Part II- “ Damn Mexicans!”
According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2024, Elon Musk has used LSD, cocaine, and other illegal drugs.
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Some executives and board members fear the billionaire’s use of drugs—including LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine—could harm his companies.
https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1
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He’s unstable and admits that he uses ketamine (which causes hallucinations) to treat his depression.
Richest man in the world, and he’s sad about stuff. Depressed.
Can’t feel anything, so he does drugs.
4chan speculates that it was Christmas, so he pumped himself full of cocaine and started tweeting obscenities and banning people from X and reinstituting censorship.
We would be wise to remember what we’ve seen of him.
Self destructive and incompetent. Depressed druggie. Shouldn’t be CEO of anything.
Well Elon, what did you accomplish this week?
You proved that Twitter/X isn’t viable as a future banking app because you ban people who disagree with you, and no one wants to be debanked at the whim of a druggie.
And you showed you can’t be trusted to be involved in any way in the Trump administration (DOGE) because you lack the restraint necessary over what you say. You have no awareness or control over how what you say can damage the president.
So, he has to be OUT.
Vivek, too. He also said some damaging things. His political career is likely over.
So, that’s what these “high achievers” did this week.
Elon embarrassed himself in front of the whole world with his potty mouth and tantrums.
And he permanently damaged Twitter’s reputation and limited its potential as a so-called “everything” app in the future. Won’t happen now.
Money can’t buy happiness,
But Elon’s got a good heart, he’s a prime candidate for reading the Bible.
That’s the best cure for depression.
He’s obviously a loser compared to you. When you’re in the room he undoubtedly hides in a corner for fear of comparison. Thank you for the Jerry Springer grade evaluation.
He’s a CEO doing LSD and cocaine? Definitely a loser. And he lost big this week.
He’s shown he’s not up to the task of being involved in DOGE or any other function in the administration.
He’s already causing problems for the president. He ought to be out or in a diminished role.
How can he be trusted to control a platform such as X/Twitter? Or to be an advisor to the president when any given day he might decide to shoot up with drugs and spout obscenities?
It’s unwise to have a person like that in a significant position.
But it’s true. Musk has admitted in the past to using ketamine and other drugs. One of his baby mommy’s thinks she’s a high priest of a mythic religion and does drugs to bring herself in alignment with the cosmos…..😵💫
In his younger days Elon liked going to the raunchy Hollyweird parties where people had to sign a NDA to attend. He was known to be quite the party boy, apparently Matt Gaetz was one too. Never know w/these people what you will get. As the World Turns, we live in a soap opera.
Ramaswamy just totally shot his political future and ruined Trump in the racist tirade.
Great job, Vivek.
has been showing his true self lately Cursing and saying we need to get rid of MAGA from the Republican Party.
Did you ever wonder why so many doctors these days are foreign? Now you know. H1B visas. They’re not hiring the top .01% of doctors. The healthcare companies are hiring the cheapest. That’s why white male doctors are disappearing.
And this is killing people.
These H1B visas are a real problem. It’s how they take the jobs that can’t be shipped overseas.
Just exactly what is it that Americans are supposed to do?
The logical conclusion to this, is just throwing us all in a pit and machine-gunning us.
Exactly, if you can’t outsource the jobs overseas, import the foreigners to America
Ironically enough, a common refrain from my mother was not all doctors graduate at the top of their class. And that was a number of years ago before the seeming takeover.
They are also not admitting white males into medical schools .
Doctor credentials are sold on the black market overseas. But I’m sure they’re all good!
I shudder to think how many of these sorts of frauds could manage to get a commission into the U.S. Military.
Doctors, dentists, and lawyers being in demand get a fairly decent deal in serving for a few years to cover the costs of their education with honorable service.
The healthcare system is completely shot. Between Obama”care” and foreign scab “doctors” .. we are screwed.
Paradigm – Kuhn, and Paradigm shift – Kuhn
also Kuhn
that the language and theories of different paradigms cannot be translated into one another or rationally evaluated against one another—that they are incommensurable. This gave rise to much talk of different peoples and cultures having radically different worldviews or conceptual schemes—so different that whether or not one was better, they could not be understood by one another.
Say what!?
You’re asking Musk to shift his paradigm from a business model that works for him no matter how artificial and contrived it may be. He literally can’t see another way.
Cultures are in conflict here and economics. What outlook prevents the Chinese from rebelling against Xi ? Their culture? What culture promotes extreme violence and self destruction and terrorism is acceptable to achieve its goals? What culture just goes with so long as it feels good do it. Many cultures in this world.
The USA and western civilization is the only culture or society that regards the individual and their rights as given by our Creator paramount over the profit margin.
If your paradigm works for you then you are blinded to another way. Musk can’t see what it means to be a free American in the heartland.
(I apologize for my weak attempt to apply logic to the tempest, best I can do at this time.)
Common Sense prevails:
https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1873207393821311076
No moving forward until MAGA receives an apology for being called “retarded,” “subtarded,” “racist,” and told to “go F ourselves in the face” for having the audacity to demand that American jobs go to American workers.
Are you saying Musk/Vivek/Trump said any of those things? If so, an apology from them for actually calling you “retarded,” “subtarded,” “racist,” or told you to “go F ourselves in the face” would be meaningless, no? Surely if they went that far, they meant it. Luckily, none of that ever happened, so we’re good.
Read the OP before commenting. There is literally a large screenshot of Elon melting down and cursing people out. Or, y’know, just go read Elon’s X timeline. You should apologize for implying that I lied when the evidence supporting what I said is right here on this very page.
I read the OP. That’s why I’m here. As I’ve pointed out too many times to mention, the post from Musk is quoting a comedy movie. Sundance should have provided context. He did not. Maybe he didn’t know the context. Hence the absurd reaction here.
One hour ago, you wrote: “None of that ever happened.”
Now you admit it actually did happen. Apologize for implying that I lied.
That’s right. None of that ever happened. That’s the context that’s missing. Musk didn’t melt down, curse or call anyone names. The worst thing he did was quote a comedy. I’m not going to get personal with you.
Totally agree. People are getting their knickers in a twist over nothing.
If anything, Musk has a highly intelligent sense of humor that people here don’t get.
Sundance is gaslighting by not having provided the context surrounding Elon’s comment.
The histrionics are absurd and quite comical. The CIA couldn’t have done a better job if they tried!
I read the context.
Elon’s obscenity-heavy attack was directed at a perfectly reasonable and calmly presented opinion written by a regular person.
Elon’s behavior is how people behave when on cocaine.
Yes, people need to quit falling for the psyop and use their brains. They are being played.
Make it more expensive to hire from overseas:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/elon-musk-calls-major-reform-broken-h-1b/
From Elon Musk:
Easily fixed by raising the minimum salary significantly and adding a yearly cost for maintaining the H1B, making it materially more expensive to hire from overseas than domestically.
I’ve been very clear that the program is broken and needs major reform.
“I’ve been very clear that the program is broken and needs major reform.”
Elon, you have been as clear as a bucket of diarrhea.
If you believe this, then you haven’t been doing your reading
That’s why I’m here- please enlighten me.
This new tone shows that the drugs have worn off after three days?
Just more gaslighting. MAGA endured three days of the smug foreign billionaire hurling insults and curse words and censorship at anyone who dared question the low wage foreign labor that he said “he’s going to war for.” Then his Big Con buddies tried running damage control saying it was the “Leftists” and then a “psy-op” trying to divide MAGA (and most definitely not Musk’s awful behavior). And now we are expected to swallow that the smug foreign billionaire was “very clear” all along.
No. I am not forgetting how badly Elon insulted us, and I don’t think most of MAGA is either. Elon needs to apologize for treating us very badly, and the gaslighting needs to stop.
“Elon insulted us”
“Us” == ???
Definitely NOT me.
Gotta a link to this unforgettably bad “insult” and the context?
Obviously, no.
Instead, like so many others, the Elon accuser got tricked by PsyOp outrage bait into believing the lie, becoming emotionally drunk ie logic impaired, then getting online to reaction post which helps to amplify and spread the PsyOp….
hopefully NOT far and NOT wide.
Sorry, you are on your own in your righteous indignation and your inaccurate information.
I’m late to this party, but I think Elon has out stepped whatever his place was. I hope things will fall into place, but I feel PDJT has it into control. Whatever happens, we have to understand God is in control. Not Elon or Vivek or 47. Let’s wait and see
Trump has been bought off. I have little hope for the success of his second term.
H-1B Uproar Obscures Vast Workforce of Other White-Collar Migrants
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/12/28/h-1b-uproar-obscures-vast-workforce-other-white-collar-migrants/
Detailed explanation of they game the system and on Dec 17:
President Joe Biden’s deputies are trying to raise the visa-worker inflow. On December 17, the Department of Homeland Security announced:
Theres more about the different kind of foreign worker visas
While the world in a frenzy is stripping the paint off the walls, our favourite President is sitting quietly in
the corner knitting away. We have never seen a better tactician with impeccable leadership and timing.
I am glad I have never had a social media account. Tonight it kinda looks like we are back to where we started.
Maybe one reform would be to permit H1B visa holders to work for any company (not be beholden to a sponsor). And require that they get the same wage as any native born American. This would eliminate the advantage they offer over native born American workers, and they would then only be hired where there are genuine shortages of a specific worker type.
How bout we just hire American workers and stop firing them to be replaced by Indians.
Elon’s rhetoric was inadvisable.
But perhaps big tech’s passion on this issue can be leveraged by Trump into a compromise on privacy.
Specifically, Trump could offer an initiative on H1B reform (actually all that’s needed is to raise quotas), in exchange for the following re privacy:
1/ Informed consent regarding AI, particularly re the intention to use AI to influence choices, modify thinking, and control access to information.
2/ Ability to turn off AI data collection completely or by information source category.
3/ Ability to delete personal info data stores, either locally stored or stored in the cloud, either completely or by specified time period.
4/ Ability to control who personal info is shared with or sold to. (Insurance Co should pay ME for my driving history, and my car should not report me or others to police.)
5/ Ability to control aggregation of data from multiple sources (local AI databases, credit card data, banking, social media, location data).
6/ Strong legal protection from gov access to personal information. AI personal data may not be aggregated by gov and may never be accessed by the gov without a duly signed subpoena.
Privacy is fundamental to human freedom and is being stripped from us RIGHT NOW. It is no longer acceptable to sign away our rights by agreeing to end user license terms. We urgently need an intervention.
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I also am having malware pop up when I visit here.
First they sent all the jobs overseas, then they simply brought the overseas workers here.
What kind of sick government forces you to compete with low wage foreign labor on your own soil?
What kind of sick ruling class calls you “retarded” for complaining about this ,and then declares that they “will go to war” to preserve their cheap foreign labor?
Took the outrage and hate bait.
Now emo drunk posting and psyop parroting rather than soberly investigating then reporting
Started to react by grrring but decided to instead react by sharing PDJT’s famously Light Hearted one word response , “Sad”.
😘
If you aren’t outraged by a smug foreign billionaire calling you “retarded” because you believe American workers should have priority for American jobs, then it’s long past time you grew a spine, Cozette.
A sick South African??
“your own soil”
Perchance, psyop triggered hyperbole?
In reality, where on earth would this soil be that “you own”?
Fwiw, I prefer the following framing when asked to think about soil ownership:
“My kingdom is NOT of this world”.
Ditto those who love and Joyfully serve Him?
Perhaps, especially during this vicious PsyWar Spiritual War, the above framing offers better long term protection?
We voted for America First. We expect America First. Elon and Vivek work for us, not the other way around.
Every institution, agency or a gov. program that has failed to maintain its original purpose, and adherence to the US consitution — must be closed down.
Re-building functions, roles and processes that these insitutions, agencies and programs intended to address, should then take place.
But before these new systems are enacted by the executive branch, their new ‘set-up’ has to be tested such that they cannot become vehicles of lies, desceptions and destruction.
H1B — is a failed program, because it allows a large percent of fake ‘scientists & engineers’ with fake diplomas or average (in the field) skills.
H1B is a good candidate to have it closed down, and re-built to import truly unique talent.
Not web-site programmers, ‘QA engineers’ and database administrators…
At the same time creating cultural and financial insetivies for US kids to attain colledge degrees in STEM, should be pursued through state-level and religious institutions programs (not through department of education).
Finally colleges/universities that are authorized to issue degrees must have a legal requirement to have STEM programs to be independently evaluated for pertinent study materials (90% STEM, 10% physical / health ) , and absence of political, cultural, racial, gender ideological biases and student acceptance and grading criteria.
Simply using a US college degree as a measure of relevance to address skilled workforce shortage is also a huge mistake.
As I wrote on https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/08/15/august-15th-2024-presidential-politics-resistance-day-1305/comment-page-1/#comment-11035860 , President Trump needs to be very careful around Mr. Musk.
He should be courteous to Musk, and listen to what he says. But he should be very careful about taking advice from Musk. Musk has his own agenda, which doesn’t completely line up with President Trump’s agenda.
One way for President Trump to be careful is to not give Musk any authority, except to run DOGE. And in running DOGE, Musk shouldn’t have any authority to get rid of any government offices or employees. He would just make recommendations.
I hope Musk will also tell President Trump about unnecessary federal laws and rules that hurt businesses. That’s good too, as long as Musk only advises, with no authority to change any rules.
And of course, President Trump shouldn’t make Musk his official spokesman.
Its fascinating to notice the number of people who choose to react to another Anti Trump NWO PsyOp attack by pretending to be an advice dispensing Helicopter Mommy to the most famous and powerful MAN in the world (and one of the richest) 78 year old DJT.
Counting the number of deployed, and implied, you need to and shoulds can be fun. Plus it can provide a psyop toxin purging Light Hearted laughter break.
Revolver’s Beattie talks to Steve about the lie known as H-1B visas and the secondary effects.
https://rumble.com/v63omom-darren-beattie.html
An article from November, illustrating the same H-1B game as was shown in the 2008 video posted earlier.
https://revolver.news/2024/11/did-tesla-hide-job-listings-in-newspapers-so-they-can-hire-h-1b-visa-workers/
A Light Hearted question:
Will I-Know-Better Bannon, aka Sloppy Steve, check himself before he finally totally wrecks himself?
I certainly hope so.
As PDJT often says, “lets see what hapoens”.
I have 🍿🍿🍿 so I’m ready and while I’m waiting to see, I’m also praying that Ill enjoying seeing what happens to Steve.
Will he choose to be DeSanctimonious 2.0.
Will he repent and be redeemed?
Or…..?
I
I have one in return.
When will people learn to at least temporarily set aside their differences and acknowledge that truth is truth, regardless of its originating point – as well as remember that the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Think about all the 3rd world’ers that were hired to be support for OIF/OEF. Couldn’t have our military or Americans doing those jobs either. It is everywhere in everything.
Or perhaps try to figure out the answer to similar, but more retro questions.
My all time favorite is the attempt to figure out how many angels could dance on the head of a pin; a “think about” this challenge that obsessed European intellectuals for years.
So many Shiny Object distractions and Gordian Knot temptations.
Oh snap…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1873174358535110953.html
A casual perusal of the data shows that this isn’t a program for the top 0.1% of talent, as it’s been described. This is simply a way to recruit hundreds of thousands of relatively lower-wage IT and financial services professionals.
They are mediocre.
They are mediocre … and cheap.
What is the “this” being referred to?
What President Trump has been saying, which other allies like Elon are now amplifying, is that like everything else connected to the government:
Legal immigration policies, laws and programs are destructively corrupt and need to be gutted then rebuilt in ways that in both the short and kong term support President Trumps MAGA Mission. Plans already exist, are now being discussed and fine tuned so they can beimplemented asap.
Those demanding NO immigration, whether self proclaimed supporters or foes, btfo. Again.While savvy good hearted MAGA immigration reformers are excited.
Thank God.
In other words, any “this” that’s a current “this” =/= a PDJT or Elon “this” ie they’re PsyOp distraction, division, outrage and hate BAIT
Once again, a pay war survival tip fyi.
Anything that refers to the way things are NOW =/= the way things will be
President Trump and his MAGA Immigration teams have been working on their 2nd term immigration plans for 9+ YEARS while also getting transformational legal rulings so lawfare can’t thwart those 2nd term plans.
We are now at the discuss, fine tune plus identify implacable foes and allies phase that proceeds publishing a working draft of their plan.
One more time:
Has been, is now policies =/= will be policies …..
unless the current NWO PsyWar Immigration Storm is able to shatter the united coalition PDJT needs in order to implement his massive MAGA immigration reforms
Here’s a return tip – don’t make assumptions, especially ignorant ones as you have.
One more time:
This is about what those policies will or won’t be and nothing is set in stone at this point and encompasses considerably more than just H-1B visa abuse. If you wish to simply sit on the sideline and “trust the plan” – your choice. Don’t expect others to follow.
Don’t think he owes anybody – it’s simply who he really is.
“Somewhere a deal was made. . .” and Elon no longer has the control he thought he would get from his adopted papa, President Trump.
Bearded bro pretending to be a Zelensky 2.0?
Kudos for sharing such a witty inversion of this memes formulaic meaning
Its an au current timely evocative inversion.
Hopefully long time internet denizens who got psyop duped into becoming cocky, destructive emotionally inebriated “Zelenskys” will understand this meme inversions message so they sober up and savvy up asap.
Then hopefully theyll start helping the less psywar aware who are still inebriated, and still drunk posting, to sober up too.
Or as a word meme popular on a closer-to-the-surface level of the internet said (with variable spellings), “check yourself before you wreck yourself”…..
then inspire others to emulate you.
The issue is not H1B. It is Elon insulting Americans and declaring war. DOGE cannot happen now. So what do we need Elon for exactly?
“So what do we need Soon for exactly?”
Who is this “we”?
Perhaps shift to a sigular pronoun and speak just for thee?
As I will….
I’m extremely grateful for what Elon has already done, is doing now and wants to do in the future.
Ditto PDJT. And his family.
Personally, I don’t know if I would have the strength to put up with the 24/7 aggressively arrogant, spoiled brat selfish, profoundy stupid armchair critics. Rather than staying and continuing to risk everything to help them out I would have likely noped out long ago.
So God bless them for being such much eeded, better-than-me, inspirations.
As a somewhat related aside…..
Reading comments made during a PsyWar Storm increases my empathy for self sacrificing leaders, like Moses, who endured endless complaints from those they’d risked everything to rescue.
All people are fundamentally, inherently good?
Lol. Lmao, even.
As Christ said, ” only God is truly good”.
I agree.
Do you want to keep paying billions of your tax dollars for stupid experiments and wars?
Do you want to keep sending billions to fund other countries?
Or do you want Elon to cut government spending so you can gave more disposable income?
Use your brains and stop reacting to media and blog gaslighting.
Can’t the issue be both ? I think it is. H1B’s are a serious, serious problem.
One of F-Face’s biggest problems is that he is a globalist and thinks like one. He’s toned down his rhetoric a tad, trying to disguise the ugly truths he revealed about himself and his fellows like Vivek (who revealed his own inner scum) to the previously unaware.
Dear Mr Clueless,
Meritocracy for American citizens – not replacement with substandard, compliant wage slaves. Freedom and opportunity for American citizens . America First. Select, highly qualified individuals such as those that might meet the requirements of O-1 visas…not H-1Bs.
America
Oh surprise, surprise, just a few tweets down from his pinned one is his relentless push for machine replacement of humans. Of course – his machines and those of his friends…
Obviously still clueless about humanity.
PsyOp triggered, emo drunk yet still posting online rather than sobering up first
In other words, “obviously still clueless”
Living,, PLUS learning and getting wiser is obviously not a given.
Unfortunately.
Agree!
Your opinion – it doesn’t make it fact. As an aside, the meme was mine.
Clueless abounds, particularly for the blind. Unfortunately.
Hum..the great African has sobered up. Nothing like a Christmas drunk to ruin the holidays….
Man it sure does not take much to divert attention from more serious problems. People are nuts.
“People are nuts”.
PsyOp poisoned, online ambulatory, “nuts”
Hopefully still sane online “squirrels” will realize that any “nut” they encounter during this PsyWar Storm, could be lethally toxic. Then act accordingly.
As a h/t to the iconic cartoon featuring Rocky the Squirrel, 6 concluding words typed in Natasha the Spys voice:
Nuts yummy? No. Nuts not good.
At least not right now.
Good observation. And instead of doing some research and finding out facts for themselves, they fall for the psyop and the stupidity fed them by the media and blogs.
They are being played, and the deep state, Democrats and the Left are gleeful.
Just like in covid, the idiots completely surrendered and allowed the deep state and the Left take control of their lives.
Years ago a company named Apollo, hired dozens of Indian programmers. They housed them in dormitory type accommodations. Most the code had to be thrown away. The company still claimed it was cheaper than hiring a handful of Americans. I was working for Honeywell in Billerica at the time as a s/w engineer (BS/MS Applied Mathematics.) It pissed off a lot of Americans.
I knew it was too good to be true. But, as usual, follow the money. 🙄
The visa argument is a red herring designed to divide MAGA.
Being chastised, bullied, insulted by your great one’s, Musk and Vi Fake is what brought out MAGA. The visas where the vessel. The 2 imposter’s are not AMERICA FIRST..
You don’t argue your point by using foul phrases like Musk did. He’s showing himself to be a twit – pun intended. Wow, I have lost all respect for him as a “smart” person. I guess he’s too big in his own eyes to have to make cognitive arguments.
As usual … a Program created for the good of America is immediately bastardized by the corrupt traitors in the UniParty … for power and money, of course!!!