Many people, perhaps even I at times, debate the granular aspects of President Trump’s administrative agenda. However, there is one component of President Donald J Trump that can never be debated, he is the most consequential U.S President in the past century.
There is not a single intellectually honest person who would doubt the intent and focus of Donald Trump to protect and defend the vital interests of our nation. President Trump’s perspective on the biggest of big pictures can never be denied. He has our total support.
President Trump is directing focus toward the U.S. vital national interest in the Panama Canal with a direct and brutally honest message to the government of the nation who benefitted from the most significant engineering accomplishment in all of the Americas.
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In a set of messages from his Truth Social account, directed toward the government of Panama, President Trump is placing a strong marker to say the control of the Panama Canal will never be allowed to fall into the hands of those who do not have our best interests in mind.
President Trump is not mincing words about our American position.
“[The Panama Canal] was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama,” Trump concluded. “If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question.”
Jimmy Carter monumentally messed up giving it back.
Trump is insuring we do NOT get taken advantage of since we built, maintained and funded it with the blood sweat and tears of so many Americans, and apparently some 38,000 died in the construction of the canal.
Panama has reaped incalculable benefits from our sacrifices.
Burning us is NOT an option….
It ain’t like anyone else would take a stand for our country like this.
Teddy Roosevelt would be proud of Donald Trump.
Our enemies recognize that control of or destruction of the canal would impact vital American security interests.
Who is gonna stop the enemy, Panama?
No.
It’s us.
And anyone can see that.
“Giving it back.” We built it, it’s ours. period. dot. Wasn’t ever theirs just a swamp until the USA built a canal at great cost.
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Thank you! The Panama Canal should belong to the U.S. We paid for it with money, thousands of lives, and years of military defense and rent. But how does Trump break Carter’s stupid treaty.
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There might be a provision somewhere in the language that would void the treaty.
I am going to read into more of this later and see if I can find something.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/wha/rlnks/11936.htm
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%201280/volume-1280-I-21086-English.pdf
https://www.jus.uio.no/english/services/library/treaties/01/1-11/neutrality_panama_canal.html
Now this is what we need more of Sundance has an amazing ability to write consolidating the info and we need more to help us understand the Reality of so many lies. As a flawed man I understand the concept of Right and Wrong thru the narrative of the Bible. This narrative is how God Blesses countries for their actions individually. Similar to how we built America no one man has much involvement it took all of us helping each other one stone at a time. We then had people like Jimmy Carter who I thought was a Christ follower that were duped by some rich guy into doing something EVIL. The History Channel has thousands of documentaries on how this or that was done all put together with Rockerfeller and tax money. They locked up all our ability in mining making it impossible to do any digging except to build their mansions. There should never be a drought we should have perfect roads the country should be spotless and manicured. A Forrest fire should never happen. OOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSS. A tangent is developing Good job on studying and relaying the truth to us. PS. Rockerfellers have provided books to the gubbermint since 1905 any chance they are filled with garbage keeping the work force in place of picks and shovels with no place to use them.
The federal government breaking a treaty, there has to be a joke in there somewhere.
If there’s language in the agreement that states “being of sound mind” then we’ve got them.
President Trump likely already has ‘the goods’ to do so, or he wouldn’t have taken this stand. It will be interesting to watch what happens.
Agree!
Bingo!
It wouldn’t be the first time the US broke a treaty. Ask the American Indians.
So very true….
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee…
1977: wiki:
“This first treaty is officially titled The Treaty Concerning the Permanent Neutrality and Operation of the Panama Canal (Spanish: Tratado Concerniente a la Neutralidad Permanente y Funcionamiento del Canal de Panamá)[1] and is commonly known as the “Neutrality Treaty”. Under this treaty, the U.S. retained the permanent right to defend the canal from any threat that might interfere with its continued neutral service to ships of all nations. The second treaty is titled The Panama Canal Treaty (Tratado del Canal de Panamá),[2] and provided that as from 12:00 on December 31, 1999, Panama would assume full control of canal operations and become primarily responsible for its defense.” …….
So the accumulated costs outweighed the security/Naval and downstream economic benefits?
Just saying that the argument has two sides to it.
In my own mind, though I think PDJT is wasting capital on this by bringing it up now with threats, I do buy into the security concerns given China’s overarching moves with BRICS+, BRI, expanding port presence globally, and a whole litany of other aggressive actions. Who knows?! Maybe it has ties to the America loving dockworkers whose livelihoods depend upon shipping.
Per previous post, the power in this lies in economic tools. Panama is dependent upon the US. There are other things in play here IMO. I just don’t get the timing.
Guessing that this is the 1st card on the table leading to a winning hand. Takes time to negotiate things out, but he’s had 8yrs to get this deal finnesed in plan and its time to begin this process just like he has with MX and CA.
This should give him leverage re: the Darian Gap and China’s role in the canal.
All before XI arrives for the inauguration.
Fair enough.
You cannot blame it all on Jimmy Carter sine a Treaty had to be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.
Alot of those Senators must still be there today since DC seems to be be a real pricey nursing home for the permanent political class.
Jimmy Carter was a corrupt marxist hack, and an idiot to boot. He was weak, effeminate, soft, best friends with marxist dictators as well as a corrupt UN, and even democrats are embarrassed at the mention of his name. And he didn’t “mess up” when he gave Panama back…that was 100% calculated and intentional. Don’t forget the overthrow of Iran by the CIA happened on his watch as well, very likely with his blessing. He was a douchbag of the 1st order, as so many democrats (and Republicans) are.
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The first successful covert psyop overthrow of a foreign government took place in 1953, when the CIA overthrew a democratically elected Mossadegh. Mossadegh had nationalized the Iranian oil industry, and the Anglo-American elites orchestrated the coup. This overthrow took place long before President Carter’s tenure.
Yes. A long history there…I was referring to the overthrow of the Shah in ‘79 of course.
The history of oil is as deep and dark as oil itself. It was one of the root causes of Pearl Harbor, too, among sooo much else.
Sounds like the sort of thing holdovers from the defunct OSS would’ve specialized in. Thinking MI6 was also involved.
No need to think Mr Burns , My,BP,London et al – up to their oxters in it.
I believe it took place in 1953.
And we installed the Shah
The peanut farmer and his wife ran the country. Both never missed a chance kissing a dictator/despot axx. Jimmy was selected by non other than David Rockefeller. The Harvard Crimson lists Jimmy and his other Globalists buddies that formed the Trilateral Commission. Minnesota’s own Mondale another far Left destroyer of America. And Morning Joe’s wife father.
That one.
Carter was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
All I remember of Carter was long lines waiting for gas and 18% mortgage rates.
And 53 American diplomats held hostage for over a year.
Worst President ever.
No question Biden doesn’t count for that position.
Until Obama, then superseded by Biden.
The D C crime family along with the incoming Administration,are all heavily affected by. Solipsism there is no mind but their mind.We are just ignorant tax pigs,then you have classes of tax pigs they just have better slop and live in a more pleasant stye.
Makes you wonder how he didn’t hand his sub over to the Soviets !
Carter did NOT give it BACK. He gave it away. And it was not his to give.
The Panama canal was sold for 1 dollar if I recall correctly…
We should buy it back for 50 cents
OR we should take it back for free.
Nah, give them their dollar back since it’s now worth about a dime….
Thank you!
Well Said!
Blaming Carter for everything over the sale of the P-Canal is pointless and maybe he should have had a claw-back provision. But what administration(s) after Carter, ignored all of Central America while China moved in?
“Compared to other Central American countries Panama has a substantial population of Chinese origin numbering over 200,000, making it the largest Chinese community in the region. The number of Panamanians with some Chinese ancestry, however, may be significantly higher.”
China is going to take over the USA too, it’ll just take a little longer, currently they’re drooping ‘anchor babies’ at around 50,000 per year thru their own run ‘birth tourism’ program, scamming the USA, we don’t even keep a count of the total.
Let’s move our troops in NATO and Syria to the Darian Gap and shut the illegal immigration down for the next 12 years, killing anybody carrying a weapon of war while smuggling anything, including children.
There is a claw back provision ; Panama is in violation of the neutrality treaty daily . Just another mess to clean up . BRAVO PDJT !
China will not conquer America, praise God!
They’re already on their way out.
China may be on their way out,but our real enemy is on the way in. That is wall street the bankers hedge funds Washington crime syndicate ,MSM .I will call it , Monocapitalism.When they get in charge using CBDC your second amendment is over,your first is over and we become slaves to the elite.
It occurs to me, having US military patrolling the length of the Panama Canal AlSO means there will be no migrant crossing from points south.
That being said, Colombia has gotten its act together over the last few years, but there’s opportunities for more economic alliances. Anything that increases our partnerships with them would be a good thing for South America to push back on leftist communism.
I agree with the strategic reasoning behind all of this. Not so sure the full history, however, has been covered.
The Panama Canal started as a French initiative, funded by the French, worked by the French. It was French engineers and French capital that started the effort. Even after the US obtained canal zone rights French engineers figured prominently in the effort.
Panama did not exist as a country in 1903. It was territory under the aegis of Columbia. The Hay-Herran Treaty was signed in 1903 by the US and Columbia contracting the sale of canal zone lands. The Columbian Senate never approved the treaty. Panamanian rebels revolted in 1903 with tacit support from President Roosevelt. The victorious rebels subsequently sold control of canal zone lands to the US in 1904 for $10 million.
Sound familiar?
I remember well when old worthless ,Mr Plains Ga Peanut gave it away.Typical lefty moron,but oh he carried a bible under his arm while he screwed the people. Then for a encore,he watched the Shah of Iran get deposed ,giving Iran over to the maniac Ruhollah Khomeini. Then of course we had long gas lines no jobs 15% inflation. Other than that he like Biden according to MSM and the Washington Mafia ,a good time was had by all.
On the oil part of your post – it runs much deeper than Carter. The oil oligopolies were up to their ear lobes in the ME well before Carter arrived on scene.
The academic community was also advising ME nations. In particular, there was a brilliant MIT economics professor, Morris Adelman, doing such. He wrote a seminal work in 1973, The World Petroleum Market, that was immensely influential at the time.
Jimmy Carter monumentally messed up…
Sums up his whole Presidency…
The actual laborers on the canal were predominantly from Europe and the West Indies. American business and military composed the management/leadership and overall engineering part of it.
My grandad worked on the initial U.S. construction of the Panama canal and in the late 30s and early 40s when it was widened. He spoke to me often about the details. His work crews were natives from the area not Europeans or West Indians.
Suffice to say he threw an unholy spitting fit when that idiot Carter gave it all away.
Didn’t the USA support a revolution in this region taking away the land from Columbia with the sole purpose of building the canal ?
Sort of a 1903 version of a color revolution?
With approval of the man in your avatar.
We will not have to wait long until the shrieking starts from the globalists.
Exploding heads in 3… 2… 1…
Who gives a flying shift what the commie globalist think!
Maybe not, but the meltdowns might be amusing to observe.
🤣 😂 😅 😁 👍
A man a plan a canal panama…
And if you don’t like the way that sounds…
Read it backwards! 🙂
Do you even sleep?
Hope not, I always look forward to his replies. Man, he always has the last word! 😉
<Do you even sleep?>
Asked by you at 12:19 a.m. 🙂
I’m in the Pacific Time Zone. 😁
Hit me back in another few hours!
It’s only 7:19 p.m. in Hawaii 🙂
I don’t make the rules.
I just break them.
But as Dean Martin sang “It’s five o’clock somewhere”
I think that is Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett. Author of the song is Jim Brown and Don Rollins. First offered to Kenny Chesney.
🙂
Yeay! My favorite palindrome!
Read backwards, and translated, it says “What Trump wants, Trump gets.”
And don’t get in his way or else!
Reality check: He’s not there yet.
And… already more effective than the current president and his inept team.
He ain’t messin’ around this time. Of course, he wasn’t last time he was in the WH, but this time there are no holds barred.
I hope you are correct. For if you are folks that should end up in prison for life – will.
I’ll have to wrestle with that thought.
At this point and as far as we know, since he doesn’t want anything we don’t want, let’s don’t complain.
Yeh that’s an old classic Word man thanks for reminding us.
Trump doctrine should be Monroe doctrine 2.0. Time is ripe for a President to do so
Where is that fedgov empowered to be th e police of the world?
Just the western half of the world.
He is so right – we do the dumbest things that a half-way smart person would never even think of. But we have the dumbest people in the world running our country – just look at what happened in the congress under the dumb leadership of Johnson. Why do we end up with these corrupt idiots in our government?
Johnson was an evil, nasty SOB.
I think Joan is speaking about the current Johnson and both of you are absolutely correct.
Why? Self-righteousness and apathy.
Obama, Clintons, Pelosi , Schumer, McConnell, etc — They all know he is the GOAT. That’s why they hate him so much. He makes them all look stupid and small.
Yes! A Trump is real Alpha leader. Not just a conniving schemer who lied and cheated his way into position.
without even trying.
The horizontal corpse named Jimmy Carter was the worst elected president. Second if you count the current corpse as a president. This one as well sold our nation to jackals. The chicoms have been salivating for the Panama canal for a while. Let’s pray President Trump can trump their efforts-where is Wordman?
We are on along road to recovery from the decades of pillaging made by our politicians on both sides of the isle. They deserve the rope treatment.
The presidential corpses have God to answer to very soon.
And loose association reminds me of obummer calling the marines, the marine corpse.
They are all beginning to look like the evil they serve.
Carter fired 30% of the CIA. Will our great leader do that?
Give him time – he’s not even in office yet – sheesh – just have to find something to criticize?
Kennedy was assassinated just for thinking about doing the same. The CIA as well as many other organizations such as the IRS, FBI, NSA, and many others are nothing more than legalized Mafia with a Nazi bent.
The Supreme Court’s recent “Chevron Deference” ruling is about to change all of that.
Many agencies/department/organizations are about to go bye bye.
Knowing Jimmy, he probably fired the 30% that were decent, American loyal human beings. Obama fired all the good guys too, so saying someone fired 30% of some alphabet agency means nothing.
Yeah he was such a smart guy wasn’t he? We were told that he was so smart. Right he didn’t even know how to pronounce marine corps. Where do these people come from? The first ten people in the phone book would be better. But we happened to luck out and get Trump!
I thought that was o’bummer.
Permit me to relate a realization from life / experience . Intelligence and common sense in some sense , shape , or form are genetic traits . By no means does this equate to if you have one that the other is included . Both have to be built upon so as to achieve WISDOM therefore survival . As a related comment never assume physical talent is linked to either of the aforementioned traits . Just my two cents !
Your two cents makes sense to me. Carry on.
It wasn’t “luck.”
Connect the dots, they’re UniParty Democrats!
Uniparty Dims and Repubs. together.
I place Jimmy the 4th worst after Obama 1st term, Obama 2ndterm and Obama 3rd term. With Obama 3rd term the worst of all.
God has indeed blessed your nation.
The fraud of 2020 and the subsequent outing of the insanity of the leftists, MSM, RINOS and assassination attempts have awakened many more millions.
Had been allowed to win in 2020, the nightmare of his persecution would just be ending.
The demons should have been patient.
Now sunlight is pouring in, and optimism is on the rise.
Thank you all!
With trudope leaving we look forward to partnering with the new coming conservative government of Canada
Hope so…the Conservative leader is a squish…much, much better than the turd though.
Canadian P.Ms need to be a squish, and must be fluently bi lingual in English and French.
That said..this is where Elon will prove extremely beneficial as a counterweight to our ultra left, U.S. media influenced, MSM scum.
Cheers!
The French jokes are much dirtier.
Many of our worst words are simply mangled French obscenities.
Mais je sais tu-as deja su ca!
What about all those who have been harmed in the interim? Like 500,000 missing children?
? It’s late not sure what that has to do with our P.M.
Cheers!
Well maybe not Canada so much as USA.
As a country we have a ton to answer for even though We The People ween’t exactly in charge.
Perhaps that is why the opportunity has been afforded us.
If we step up and restore truth, righteousness, justice, morality…..
If we reclaim the excellent things of our heritage…..
IF we can bring healing for some of these wrongs….
there is hope.
In a way, this Trump/Biden/Trump is a silver lining if looked at correctly. More people now follow politics much closer while Trump gets to see a lot more inner workings to fine tune! We will finally get a government that works the way it should. I pray for his safety!
Next: mandatory buy back of all of our ports from foreign non-American entities. No non American should ever own our ports. Never shoukd have been allowed.
Hear, hear!
“Buy back”?
LOL
No. You mean “take back”, along with “we might consider cutting a point or two off the tariffs we will charge your imports if you’re nice and understanding about the necessity of our controlling our strategically important points of our national security.”
Or tollways or land or houses or any real estate or more than 30% total of combined foreign shares/investors/controllers of any company in USA, or leases of more than 8years.
yes, we want the land back that china bought around our military bases too.
Totally agree. Another totally dumb thing to do. Any American on the street knows better – but not our so-called leaders – dumb as a rock.
They ate not dumb, they are corrupt…
Yes, buy it back for $1.00 plus interest.
That is, if we were ever paid the $1.00 for the sale.
Same with solid land
Make it better: LEGISLATION that prevents foreign ownership of all infrastructure.
Current owners have until….to sell to Americans before the Gov gives them pennies on the dollar and then auctions it off.
Too late. China’s got it a bigger navy, now.
LOL
O’rly?
Having something and knowing how to employ and use it effectively are two very different things.
Hand a liberal a gun and chances are they have no idea how to use it effectively and correctly.
Same thing with a blue water navy, which China does not have. In fact, China’s navy is optimized for littoral combat, not blue water power projection. And China needs us, economically, more than we need them.
If Trump wants the canal, he will get the canal. Bank on it.
Landslide24: People continue to believe this. I recommend checking out the Commander Salamander’s substrack for a navalist’s view of the situation. The US barely has sufficient naval assets to cover the Western Pacific at this point.
Thank you, Sundance!
That has always griped me, Jimmy Carter’s actions with regard to the Panama Canal . . . I think he was miffed that people were not enthralled with his every word and deed.
What was even worse and more weird was George H. W. Bush and his prosecution of General Manuel Noriega . . . what was the problem, was Noriega reluctant to see the PRC controlling both ends of the Canal?
“Just Cause” my ass!
Noriega was removed because he threatened the disclosure of the CIA’s deep involvement with importing illegal drugs into the USA, which both (former CIA Director) Bush and, after him, Clinton were deeply involved. Recall the assassination attempt on Reagan just 2 months after he was sworn into office. Reagan was never supposed to be POTUS for 2 terms….Bush was.
Bushies are RINOs (UniParty)! Eff ’em!
I was there for that dance in Panama, it was all “Wag the Dog”. Noriega was a CIA asset that couldn’t be controlled anymore and thus the Cocaine Import Agency set the stage for Operation Just Cause.
The irony of it all is that a building in the Canal Zone built by us and formerly occupied by us is used by the UN and other leftist NGOs to recruit, finance and send illegal aliens to our open southern border!!! To me this alone violates “the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture”!!! JMO Godspeed President Trump!!!
Sounds like that is an unspoken objective amidst a broader one.
Good. I hope that those human traffickers are brought to account for their crimes.
Agree! Panama is a participant in the destruction of America via an invasion of illegals along with the UN and leftist NGOs operating out of the Canal Zone! JMO
All paid by these USA’s fedgov
That’s why we love President Donald J Trump he’s always looking out for America. God bless him.
I agree with Trump that it was wrong to give the canal away for a buck (I think we were allowed to co-manage it for about 20 years.) and that the USA should have made a better deal. I also agree that China should not manage the canal since it sounds like the USA is the canal’s biggest client.
Yet Panama is a sovereign nation and can do anything it wants to its land if it does not adversely affect its neighbors. (They are allowed to play the nationalist game too!)
But it most surely does adversely affect its neighbours.
Cheers!
I am implying that.
Panama depends upon the USA, as so many other dozens upon dozens of other nations.
Sundance has been trying to educate folks about this. Economic leverage in the modern world can be more effective than military power.
Dependence upon another is a weakness which can be exploited…for both good or ill.
If Trump wants the canal, he will get the canal.
China controls the ports at either end and increasingly the operations within.
It’s a strategic interest worthy of war.
Watch VSGGEPDJT do it sans war.
China does not want that war, nor does it possess the means to retain control of the canal in a military conflict. We DO possess the means, as well as the geographical advantage.
Trump would not be so bold with such a message if he wasn’t 100% sure of his position.
Have I said anything that suggests otherwise?
Respectfully, your comment implied that China might be willing to risk a military confrontation with the US in order to retain control of the canal. I was simply pointing out why this was not so.
Didn’t suggest that at all.
I noted the degree of significance it represents our our interests.
I didn’t say you suggested it. I said…respectfully…that your comment implied it, which it did. Suggesting something directly vs. unintentionally implying something are two different things.
Your inference is not my implication.
Il y’a une difference.
I think you both won that round 🤔 .
Why wouldn’t they… they have thousands of ‘agents’ here in the U.S.A. already. They can cause a LOT of damage. Our L.E. and Fumbling Bumbling Idiots cannot/will not prevent known crooks & kooks that they have been ‘watching’ for years.
“Why wouldn’t they?”
A: Because we could collapse their economy without firing a shot, and they need us far more than we need them.
“Economic security IS national security”.
Another way to read this is: we can cause a lot more trouble for them than they can cause for us, but without the baggage of it being an act of war, as what you suggest they could do to us would be. They need to sell their goods and products in America far more than we need to purchase them.
Read: we can make do without their Made in China gadgets for far longer than they can make do without selling them to us.
There’s a new sheriff in town.
Giving away the Panama Canal gave Carter the undisputed title of worst president ever…..until Obama and Biden came along! COSCO, the China Overseas Shipping Company, which filled the vacuum that Jimmah created, is not your average “shipping company.” It is an arm of the Chinese Communist Party, and that in itself is why us Treepers are so pissed! Now our biggest carriers can’t fit through the present canal dimensions, but all the support ships of a carrier group can. Should some problem develop with our Pacific fleet where we need to transfer more vessels from the Atlantic side, China can screw things up for us. The ONLY President that can thwart China is PDJT! We know it. China knows it. And if the Canal needs to be upgraded to accommodate our largest carriers, ONLY PDJT can get that done! Going around Cape Horn is treacherous, and if we decide to improve the Canal, we need to control it again!
Okay , but treaty violations carry repercussions. Especially if you have a strategic advantage such as the USA.
When Pat Buchanan wrote this, was in regards to PDJT’s 1st term. His second term is going to be epic. America First!
A Most Consequential Presidency
https://buchanan.org/blog/a-most-consequential-presidency-142071
“Trump has also changed the character and composition of the GOP, making it more of a working- and middle-class party. Where George H.W. Bush sought to build a “New World Order” with America as global hegemon and George W. Bush preached a global crusade for democracy “to end tyranny in our world,” Trump is all-in on “America first.” Bush transnationalism belongs to yesterday. ” Pat Buchanan
This man is doing more for America as a president elect than most presidents do during their term in office….. God Bless Him!
Shouldn’t have Carter turned his plantation over to the 25 tenant farmer families that built it?
Now now.
Don’t you know you can’t spell “democrat” without the “hypocrite” in it?
Shortly after the giveaway, Ronald Reagan schooled Wm F Buckley Jr in a Firing Line debate as to why the giveaway was a bad idea. Alas, Reagan once president did little to recapture the Canal. Reagan and Buckley were good Cold Warriors against the Soviet, but they had a blind spot which obscured their vision against what China would become.
They underestimated how quickly and completely our Globo-Homo Parasite Class would sell us out.
Well said
It’s a good precedent, we can be waiting now for Russia to demand US give Alaska back
And next for the native americans to demand manhattan island back. 😉
The french might want the statue of liberty back as well.
Bit of a double edged sword policy.
We bought Alaska. Statue of Liberty was a gift. As for Manhattan…maybe the natives should get it back. Think of all the casinos they would build.
They can’t afford to make such demands. We do far more for other countries than they do for us. See how quickly Mexico and Canada fell in line to the threat of 25% tariffs by Trump conveyed through his Truth Social posts. That was Trump asking the nice way. He is far more formidable face to face. See what he got by rewriting NAFTA into the USMCA from those same countries . Most countries risk falling into a severe recession or depression if Trump hikes tariffs. It’s easier on them to just agree with Trump even if it makes them look weak.
Apples to oranges, bob
Can’t wait to see tomorrow what Panama’s reaction to this will be to this tweet.
Now that Canada will be 51 can we expect Panama as the 52nd State is in the works?
LOL; He isn’t even President yet! Shaking up the world, putting them on notice one nation at a time.
China too! I think Xi probably loses sleep over Trump’s social media posts.
We can see right now: 2025 is gonna be a good time – it’s sure starting out with a slam-bang!
I sure didn’t have Trump taking back the Panama Canal anywhere on my bingo card….
Note: the water source for canal to operate is the rain first in the mountains. Actually the lake is fed by rain forest n lake provides canal water. Either way, the rain forest is not making enough water, so the lake is drying up. So with no water the canal shuts down.
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/6518/president-trump-asserts-importance-panama
Why iare US taxpayer funds and Florida taxpayer funds used for construction of ports (in the US and FL) that benefit foreign (China, UAE) businesses operating and owning land in the US? American land owned by Americans only.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mergermarket/2014/08/20/foreign-investment-in-florida-port-rekindles-security-infrastructure-debate/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/desantis-backed-law-chinese-owning-land-florida-galvanized-asian-ameri-rcna166640
https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/who-owns-the-most-shipping-ports/
https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/industrial/chinese-3pls-dominating-savannahs-industrial-leasing-landscape-126453
So the US can’t make its own port shipping cranes? This is embarrassing…https://apnews.com/general-news-37027c69c06e4fe9af22fb39d54ac0f2
Carter was a maroon, another moron installed by the glo-BULL-ists.
Jimmy didn’t get handed a dollar, put it in his pocket, and walk away.
There must be signed documents that state terms, conditions and whatever Trump talks about when he says both moral and ‘legal’ principles must be followed.
Here it is, the Panama Canal Treaty of 1977.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/wha/rlnks/11936.htm
It is hard for me to read the small “print,” so I copied it to a word document and will read later.
Take back our home ports from foreign control.
MAGA👊👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️
Great, now block the Darien Gap. Blow up the Chinese bridge being built
Love it!
President Trump should send them a nice new crisp one-dollar bill and let them know they have been paid back. Or better yet, send them one of those new shiny one-dollar coins with our favorite President’s face on it. You know the ones. They show off his big, beautiful smile.
We are taking back control.
Either that or we threaten to just takeover everything from our current southern border down to just beyond the Panama Canal and call it all the 52nd state.
No more need for a long border wall because we now have a much shorter border canal.
Hard working people can still send their hard-earned money south, but it will be sent to a place that’s now part of the U.S. Keep it all in house.
Hey China, thanks for starting the building out of that huge car plant in Mexico. We are going to finish building it because it now resides in our 52nd state. We will be running it with new U.S. citizens.
President Trump always surprises us and shows us that there’s always more than one way to skin a dog. 😉
Oh, and while we’re at it, we’re taking Cuba too. It’s going to be returned to its former greatness before Sparkle Socks’ dad ruined it.
This is a geopolitical concern that our military industrial complex can sink its teeth into that makes sense while shutting down the Darien Gap at the same time. Not to mention how the Cartels would be trapped between an irresistible vise of our armed forces.
I wonder if that means that Russia can “demand” Alaska back, due to Seward having obtained it at a bargain basement price….?
So, what’s the plan-of-action?
Well, this strategy does fit neatly with Trump’s support for the East Coast dockworkers. It’s all of a piece, re national security.
“There is not a single intellectually honest person who would doubt the intent and focus of Donald Trump to protect and defend the vital interests of our nation.”
And that statement singularly identifies the major reason behind the significant and desperate opposition to President Trump from the corrupt DC Establishment, the corrupt legacy corporate media, and the professional grifters who feed off the corruption as long as it continues.
That entire array of corrupt institutions lacks or has an extreme dearth of any “single intellectually honest persons”.
US Navy Rear Admiral Harry Harwood Rousseau was in charge of the building of the canal. He was 36 when he was chosen to lead the project.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49305626/harry-harwood-rousseau
One of his sons was the co-creator of ‘Dragnet‘, William Parker Rousseau. Their family has quite the history, and are very impressive, all up and down the lines.
So, Panama is not a sovereign country? Yes, Jimmy Carter was can awful President was correct in bringing the agreement to conclusion.
Where in the Constitution Of These uSA was/is the Fed gov empowered to build the canal, establish military bases in foreign soil (not part of a declared war) etc.
The canal Panama’s and Panama is not a State in the union.
While I’d agree that the Canal was born in sin, and that Theodore Roosevelt despised the US Constitution as much as any Unipartier today, what’s done is done. The national security interests of this country take precedence. The Canal must be operated in support of those interests, not in support of neocon neolib global fascists.
BTW, read about where. the original canal was going to he built and how the government that country was overthrown to stop the construction.
President Trump is firing a shot across the bow of Panama, probably because he’s heard some intel that China is trying to worm their way into operating it in exchange for cash to the politicians. However much this may stir up some resentment from the leftist countries of Latin and South America, folks like Bukele and Milei would be backing up Trump’s play 100%.
I do get tired of hearing how even many of his detracters say they think Jimmy Carter loved his country, blah blah blah. As far as I am concerned, he is a traitor. And Christian? Not sure abou that, either. Phony as a three dollar bill. Used to carry an empty suitcase in front of the cameras and then set it down when the cameras were gone and the secret service carried the actual luggage. I learned this from a very liberal woman who witnessed it. Didn’t like personnel at the white House to wish him good morning, either. Not a nice guy at all. And good for Pres. Trump. U.S. built the canal. Get it back.
Progressive Evangelicals believed in him as Governor before marxists believed in him as a ballot.
“If Jimmy Carter can vote early, you can too.” – Kamala Harvest
“He may not be the greatest President but he is a GOOD man.”
I heard that in various discussions over the years about Carter.
I was not real fond of Gerald Ford and thought that he should not have run in 1976 and the Republican Party should have supported someone else . . . but didn’t it seem like they just know they wouldn’t win anyway and besides, Kissinger wanted Ford to stay in to carry out his policy initiative, the One China (Shanghai Communique kicking-the-can-down-the-road BS re Taiwan).
Although I did not care for Ford and was disappointed by his performance during the debate with Carter, Carter was supercilious to the extreme and after that there was no way I could buy the “but he is a good man” BS. It was so beautiful when Reagan debated Carter and used that “well” and “there you go again” . . . ah, it was glorious, seeing Carter huffing and puffing, infuriated at the nerve of him, Reagan!
Ronald Reagan and John Wayne were good friends but argued over the Panama Canal, because Wayne was also friends with Torrijos.
However, even John Wayne would have changed his mind had he known China would take it over. But before you get mad at those crooked Panamanian sell-outs, they are just following the example of Mitch MaoConnell, China Joe and all of Military Dictator Xi’s American lackeys.
Psalm 68:
1 Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.
3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice.
In Jesus’ Name, Amen!
flashback
1978. Buchanan, Reagan, Buckley, Debate the Panama Canal Treaty
Reagan sided with Buchanan and the populists.
Convention for the Construction of a Ship Canal (Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty), November 18, 1903https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/pan001.asp
A few interesting highlights from the 1903 Treaty (some italicized)
“ARTICLE I
The United States guarantees and will maintain the independence of the Republic of Panama.”
“ARTICLE II
The Republic of Panama grants to the United States in perpetuity the use, occupation and control of a zone of land and land under water for the construction maintenance, operation, sanitation and protection of said Canal…”
“The Republic of Panama further grants to the United States in perpetuity the use, occupation and control of any other lands and waters outside of the zone above described which may be necessary and convenient for the construction, maintenance, operation, sanitation and protection of the said Canal or of any auxiliary canals or other works necessary and convenient for the construction, maintenance, operation, sanitation and protection of the said enterprise. ”
“ARTICLE III
The Republic of Panama grants to the United States all the rights, power and authority within the zone…which the United States would possess and exercise if it were the sovereign of the territory within which said lands and waters are located…”
“ARTICLE VII
The Republic of Panama agrees that the cities of Panama and Colon shall comply in perpetuity with the sanitary ordinances whether of a preventive or curative character prescribed by the United States and in case the Government of Panama is unable or fails in its duty to enforce this compliance by the cities of Panama and Colon with the sanitary ordinances of the United States the Republic of Panama grants to the United States the right and authority to enforce the same.
The same right and authority are granted to the United States for the maintenance of public order in the cities of Panama and Colon and the territories and harbors adjacent thereto in case the Republic of Panama should not be, in the judgment of the United States, able to maintain such order.”
“ARTICLE XII
The Government of the Republic of Panama shall permit the immigration and free access to the lands and workshops of the Canal and its auxiliary works of all employees and workmen of Whatever nationality under contract to work upon or seeking employment upon or in any wise connected with the said Canal and its auxiliary works, with their respective families, and all such persons shall be free and exempt from the military service of the Republic of Panama.”
“ARTICLE XIV
As the price or compensation for the rights, powers and privileges granted in this convention by the Republic of Panama to the United States, the Government of the United States agrees to pay to the Republic of Panama the sum of ten million dollars ($10,000,000) in gold coin of the United States on the exchange of the ratification of this convention and also an annual payment during the life of this convention of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($250,000) in like gold coin, beginning nine years after the date aforesaid.”*
“ARTICLE XVIII
The Canal, when constructed, and the entrances thereto shall be neutral in perpetuity, and shall be opened upon the terms provided for by Section I of Article three of, and in conformity with all the stipulations of, the treaty entered into by the Governments of the United States and Great Britain on November 18,1901.” Great Britain is part of this?
“ARTICLE XX
If by virtue of any existing treaty in relation to the territory of the Isthmus of Panama, whereof the obligations shall descend or be assumed by the Republic of Panama, there may be any privilege or concession in favor the Government or the citizens and subjects of a third power relative to an interoceanic means of communication which in any of its terms may be incompatible with the terms of the present convention, the Republic of Panama agrees to cancel or modify such treaty in due form…” This says if Panama is given control of the canal, and then gives that control to a third party, that if the third party does things that are incompatible with this treaty that Panama agrees to cancel or modify that treaty.
“ARTICLE XXIII
If it should become necessary at any time to employ armed forces for the safety or protection of the Canal, or of the ships that make use of the same, or the railways and auxiliary works, the United States shall have the right, at all times and in its discretion, to use its police and its land and naval forces or to establish fortifications for these purposes.”
*What would $250,000 in U.S. gold coins be worth in today’s market, since even my 1980s $5 coin is now worth more than $300?
Maybe Jimmy decided “we” couldn’t afford to “own” the canal any longer. . .
I recommend the Avalon Project to everyone. Look up the Guantanamo agreement with Cuba. Are these uSA abiding by it? Regardless of what a human treaty says, no sovereign government is bound through eternity nor any human government.
While the USA did participate in shenanigans many years ago to get control of what became the Canal Zone, we spent the money and lives to make it a reality. There needs to be a more equitable settlement than simply “handing it over to Panama”.
We not only spent money and lives to make the canal a reality, part of the initial agreement with Panama was an initial payment of ten million dollars in gold U.S. coins ($10,000,000) followed by yearly payments of $250,000 in gold U.S. coins.
“As the price or compensation for the rights, powers and privileges granted in this convention by the Republic of Panama to the United States, the Government of the United States agrees to pay to the Republic of Panama the sum of ten million dollars ($10,000,000) in gold coin of the United States on the exchange of the ratification of this convention and also an annual payment during the life of this convention of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($250,000) in like gold coin, beginning nine years after the date aforesaid.”
Where in the Constitution is the fedgov empowered to do this?
We, the people, give the federal government the power to do these things via our representatives.
This treaty was ratified by the Senate and the President in 1904.
Better than Joe just throwing cash wherever he wants, but not by much.
Britain handed over Hong Kong to the CCP. How did that work out? The treaty calling for a handover was negotiated with a government that ceased to exist after 1949. Britain could have abrogated that but wussed out.
The Path Between the Seas: The Creation of the Panama Canal, 1870-1914: McCullough, David: 9780671244095: Amazon.com: Books
“In The Path Between the Seas, acclaimed historian David McCullough delivers a first-rate drama of the sweeping human undertaking that led to the creation of this grand enterprise.
The Path Between the Seas tells the story of the men and women who fought against all odds to fulfill the 400-year-old dream of constructing an aquatic passageway between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. It is a story of astonishing engineering feats, tremendous medical accomplishments, political power plays, heroic successes, and tragic failures. Applying his remarkable gift for writing lucid, lively exposition, McCullough weaves the many strands of the momentous event into a comprehensive and captivating tale.” …….
The construction of Panama Canal in rare pictures, 1881-1914 – Rare Historical Photos
Give Panama a reasonable date to adjust their policies–such as 1 February 2025–and if it isn’t met, as of 2 February 2025, the Canal Zone is returned to the U.S. with interest (paid by including in the new CZ some of the neighboring Panamanian provinces, preferably on the coasts with great views).
They can keep Panama City; too much crime and poverty. Colon, CZ is ours, however.
Who could think that is unreasonable, except America’s domestic enemies?
Unfortunately, half of Panama will try to be inside the CZ on 2 Feb, hoping to claim American citizenship. It doesn’t work that way anymore, but try telling that to a bunch of desperate Third Worlders…
It’s amazing how many countries want to start pissing matches with Incoming VSPDJT. They have taken advantage of the United States’ generosity and spat in our faces for far too long; all while our congress creatures and RINO and Demoncrat presidents facilitated these countries wishlists with US taxpayers’ money.
I was USN. 1977-81.
When Carter left the House?
We, in the military, could literally FEEL the atmosphere change.
What man in his right mind would cede control of the PC? To Chynah?
Answer: Jimmy n Bill.
I came to loathe the peanut brained brother of Billy.
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President Trump is not going to take back the Panama Canal. But watch how quickly the Panamanian government kicks out the UN and NGO’s that are set up in the canal zone to facilitate bringing in the illegals and drugs.
There is probably a line being drawn on the Chinese as well.
Did any Republicans in Congress at the time object to the sale of the Panama Canal, or did they all just go along to get along?