I find it very interesting amid all of our current discussions unattached to the events in New York City, that ‘facial recognition technology‘ appears to be the investigative emphasis to find the gunman who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on December 4th.
From the latest information, the assassin arrived in New York City on November 24, traveling from Atlanta, Georgia, to New York City by bus. Ten days later the unknown gunman executed his mission. New York police have some evidence from the trail of the gunman as they track his travel into and then out of the area. {Developments Here}
The evidence includes CCTV security images of the gunman checking in to a hostel, using a fake New Jersey ID, paying cash. The police also located a water bottle purchased from a local Starbucks and a cell phone retrieved from the area where the gunman fled. If the assassin was a professional, the physical evidence could be purposeful, meaning dropped intentionally.
With this much time to distance himself from the area, it will be challenging for investigators to locate him, even if they are able to come up with a solid identification. And with that background, again we go into the world of ‘facial recognition software’ as a tool to identify a bad guy. Strange coincidence. Hmmm?
NEW YORK – The unidentified man suspected of gunning down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel remains at large after Wednesday’s attack, which was described by police as “brazen, targeted” and “premeditated.”
The killer entered New York City by bus on Nov. 24, when a surveillance camera at Port Authority Bus Terminal caught his arrival at 9 p.m., law enforcement sources told ABC News.
The inbound bus originated in Atlanta but it was not immediately clear where the suspected boarded. Sources told ABC News he was spotted on board in Washington, D.C.
Police are investigating whether the suspect left New York City by bus on Wednesday after the murder. The 10-day period he was in New York City before the shooting is the focus of investigative efforts.
Police have collected video of the suspect all over the city, including in the subway, in cabs and in a McDonald’s, sources told ABC News. In each place, he paid with cash and he made sure to keep his mask on, which indicates to detectives he knew he was coming to New York City to commit the murder, sources said.
Police were able to find a surveillance image of the suspect without his face mask on because he was flirting with the woman who checked him into a hostel on Manhattan’s Upper West Side, police sources said.
As he stood at the check-in desk, the sources said the woman asked to see his smile. The shooter obliged, pulling down his mask long enough for the surveillance camera to capture his face.
Police have determined the suspect checked into the hostel using a New Jersey license that wasn’t his own, police sources told ABC News.
The masked gunman shot Thompson at point-blank range at 6:44 a.m. Wednesday outside the New York Hilton Midtown, where Thompson was heading for his company’s investors conference.
“The shooter then walks toward the victim and continues to shoot,” NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny said. “It appears that the gun malfunctions, as he clears the jam and begins to fire again.”
Written on the shell casings were the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose,” according to police sources.
[…] Investigators believe they were able to score DNA samples from several pieces of evidence discovered at or near the crime scene, law enforcement sources told ABC News. The samples are currently at the NYC Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to be run through databases for a possible match — a process that could take several days, the sources said.
Police were also able to extract a fingerprint off a water bottle the suspect bought at a Starbucks, but the print is smudged so it’s not clear how helpful it will be, sources said.
The suspect fled on foot and then fled north on a bike and rode into Central Park, police said.
A person appearing to be the suspect was seen just before 7 a.m. on the Upper West Side, riding a bicycle away from Central Park. He has not been spotted since. (more)
Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield axes plan to impose limits on surgical anesthesia after threats, widespread condemnation
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-to-impose-limits-on-surgical-anesthesia/
Coincidence? I think not. Also the CEO of BCBS was the CEO of UHC prior to the recently deceased, if memory from this morning serves me right.
They have backed down.
My White House – Mission Impossible: How I, the CIA’s disguise division chief, deceived the Secret Service, infiltrated the Oval Office and shocked the President… by peeling off MY face
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13136783/cia-disguise-mask-white-house-jonna-mendez.html
This is what I think was going on. Why he was willing to show his face and interact with people without his black mask.
Because he was possibly wearing a full face disguise – they are very realistic.
In one photo his hands are being held as if he is wearing some type of “fake” hands. Always thought the mask was a possibility.
Interesting. Makes me wonder if some of those videos of Prez Dipshit (where the back of his neck was crumpled up) were really someone else. From NewsWEAK:
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-video-joe-biden-wearing-mask-1797211
I have always said the Biden was drugged to make him appear more “gone” than he really is. I agree that he is evil to the core, but dementia Joe seems to be in recovery. Yes, I have always wondered why he showed face wrinkles on day and a week later his skin was stretched so smooth, I wanted to find out what product he was using to enable his skin to look so young. YEP- that CIA crap is operating on steroids.
Hemorrhoid cream supposedly. Never tried it myself.
A illegal alien gang member hired to do a dirty job, by some really dirty Rich people.Probably anywhere in this country spending his payday.If it had been a peaceful J6 person ,they would be in jail already.
She and her husband, Antonio (Tony), wrote a book called Moscow Rules. Both are super deep state (it bleeds through the text), but the book is an interesting read.
If he was smart… he had a change of clothes in the backpack, or at least a reversible jacket. Maybe ditch the backpack after too, but risky. Another bag inside to switch to would be a better option– so not leaving clothing evidence behind.
Well besides the stuff he wanted to be found. If he’s really clever- it’s probably not even his DNA or fingerprint.
The trick would be slipping in somewhere unseen to change.
Public bathroom in central park.
One loose end I haven’t heard anybody raise: this guy supposedly escaped north into Central Park on one of those rental e-bikes. Those bikes require a smartphone app to unlock.
So did the shooter unlock the bike and then drop the phone? (would strongly suggest it was a burner phone, meant to be tossed)Did the shooter drop a “throwaway” phone and use a different phone to rent the bike? (unless it was another burner-phone, this would be very poor tradecraft)Wouldn’t the NYPD already have the phone’s data from the eBike rental company? That should give them tracking “pings,” links to some means of payment (typically requires a credit card) etc.
Another loose-end is that they have released nothing about tracking the phone that was found. Tracking using cell-tower pings only requires the IMEI (electronic serial number) which the police already have if they have the phone. Tracking pings does NOT require them to unlock a locked phone.
He did not rent a bike.
The alphabet agency assassin is unknown and out of the country.
The m only question … why was this medical industry guy murdered … to silence him – or – simply sacrifice one asset to warn the rest – you to can be eliminated.
I read somewhere right after the murder that the victim, his COO and 2 other top level execs at UHC learned last February that the SEC was opening an investigation, two weeks before the investigation was announced and the stock took a big dip. Between the 4 of them, they sold either $110 million or $115 million in stock options. As a result, the DOJ also opened an investigation for insider trading.
Assuming that background is true, I would guess one of the other execs had reason to believe the victim was going to flip on the others and ordered the hit.
The fact that the bullet casings had “deny”, “defend” and “depose” stamped on them says either the shooter was dumb enough to tell the police he’s in the pool of people who had claims denied, in the smaller pool who filed a lawsuit that UHC defended AND was in the even smaller pool of people who were deposed-OR-it was a professional hit, complete with bullet casings designed to throw police off in the hitman’s scent.
If we were taking bets, my money would be on the professional hit man.
“corrupted” meta data?
Sounds like DEI has infected the Spooky world of Jason Bourne assassins as well..
Could be he didn’t, since apparently a lot of people in NYC own e-bikes.
I detest health insurance companies playing MDs and denying services otherwise ordered. I understand how someone could become unhinged in that kind of scenario if a loved one is harmed.
In no way am I condoning murder… but I understand.
We do not know what the reason was yet in this case. But this particular Insurance company outdoes all others as for denying services. It’s shotty care offered.
There are other scenarios swirling around the rumor mill about this hit. I don’t know enough to comment.
THIS YOUNG MALE is no pro… or he would not have taken his mask off. And leavving a fingerprint or possible DNA is sloppy.
I am no fan of the facial recognition.
That pic looks like a chick
A little chesty
Haven’t heard much about the effects on the insurance industry regarding the greatly increased number of early deaths resulting from the COVID DNA altering so-called “vaccines.”
Suspicious Cat says… I don’t think this was a person unhappy with the AI managed care decisions of United Healthcare…. Seems to be deeper than that..
(The gun didn’t malfunction)
He was very good at the “racks” and had practiced. And, who engraves the brass on a 9mm? Might he be a hand loader? That’s when I would put the brass in a vice for the engraving . Might he be using/loading subsonic loads with heavy bullets? See 300 AAC Blackouts with subsonic loads and suppressors for further details.
Let’s play a physics game. Let’s use a 147gr law enforcement 9mm bullet and load down the muzzle velocity from 1100 fps to 550 fps. That will give you 99 foot pounds muzzle energy. A shot that close is basically muzzle energy. It takes about 75 foot pounds to move that bullet into a human (old Army number). You don’t need to use the FBI standard of 17 inch penetration at supersonic velocity…just get into the vital organs and cause blood loss.
When you down load a 9mm to lower velocity (and lower noise with suppressor) you’re not going to be matching the poundage of the OEM recoil spring.
Lots of possible reasons why he did the racking. It’s a suppressed modern pistol, not the weird narrative going around. The ideas are out there.
Yes, subsonic rounds sometimes prevent the action of the firearm from operating properly.
The pistol was some kind of Swiss made , bolt action, factory suppressed pistol. Has a 10 round mag but the operator has to cycle the bolt action each shot. Basically a pistol made to do “hits” and they are $$$$$$. Oh, it must use subsonic rounds to avoid blowing out the “wipes” in the silencer.
i could have sworn it threw the casing out.
It does eject, but the operator has to work the bolt to get it to.
Engraving a casing will cause jams..
Thought the same thing. particularly if the rounds were clamped while engraving. Even slight case deformation, plus engraving burrs, could cause auto ejection issues.
I Feel sure that ,Inspector Clouseau of the crackerjack FBI will be on this like,a Duck on a June Bug.
Top or side ejection?
Below 1100 fps should be subsonic, though if downloaded it would cause the action not to cycle. The suppressor by itself should not cause malfunctions on a blow-back type firearm, if anything it should make the bolt cycle better. Suppressors do make the gun run dirty, though. Perhaps the suspect practiced extensively and did not clean the firearm after — then malfunctions should be expected.
147 grain 9mm should be subsonic for the most part, at least the commercially available variety. Handloads can be what ever will fit into the case. Evidently the suspect cleared several live rounds in addition to the ones fired, so the type of ammunition used will be known. The writing on the cases was clear enough.
The use of the suppressor is curious. Did the suspect own one or was it unregistered?
Homemade pistol?
Exactly.
If you watch the video, as he moves into view, he is extending his hands from a “high ready” position, straight out (not arching them like people who watch too many movies), and he fires at the exact moment when his arms reach full extension. That means he has practiced drawing properly, acquiring his sights, and having trigger control (timing the squeeze). He shot from a very relaxed stance (sort of an isosceles). He could have fired while walking, but that takes more practice, and is not something you try at a public range.
Not saying he was a pro, but definitely not an amateur (like the Butler shooter).
I’ll bet you could overcome the lower kick subsonic ammo problem by changing out a weaker standard spring for an optional stronger spring. Any live fire practice would have revealed the problem. An amateur probably would not have known how to correct and rely on manual ejection – a pro would have fixed the problem.
The most likely is a disgruntled insurance customer, perhaps one who paid out a lot of money and was not covered by United HealthCare. Atlanta was a hotbed of Antifa activity, though the suspect could have boarded at any stop.
As reported by local stations, if the suspect used a B&T station six-9 and obtained it legally, that is massively stupid. For a suppressor, you send the ATF your picture and fingerprints, then wait for a significant time for a background check. It would be far more sensible to use a cheap 9mm semi-auto with the serial numbers removed and a homemade suppressor, then leave the firearm at the scene and hightail it out of there.
The video of the event shows the suspect racking the pistol after each round which might be consistent with the use of the Station six-9, however only the first hit was center mass which shows it was mostly LARPing, not really credible that it was a professional hit. The suspect did not shoot very accurately.
Targeting CEO’s with death just because you disagree is disturbing, though. If the socialist/communist left of this country has decided that if you disagree you deserve death, it brings the consequences of political discourse up a notch or two. There have been several pseudo-journalists who have agreed with the assassination, giving it an unfortunate legitimacy.
There is an extreme, left wing group that has communist ties all over the place that has been targeting this company with demonstrations, etc. for quite some time. I refer you to last night’s America’s Untold Stories.
My Question is:
HOW DID he pay for the accommodation, busride, coffee? He was there for a few days. He must have gone elsehwere apart from Starbucks for coffee etc
Q:
if he paid with a card-isnt that traceable
If he paid cash, wont the money have fingerprints on it?
And the backpack found in Central park? Fingerprints on clasps, material/? Ususally they wash clohting etc and then extract the DNA from the wash water
Inside the shady world of health insurers — and the 1.2 seconds it takes them to deny claims
Figures compiled by ValuePenguin, a consumer research site, found that UnitedHealthcare rejected one in three claims last year, about twice the industry average.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/inside-the-shady-world-of-health-insurers-and-the-1-2-seconds-it-takes-them-to-deny-claims/ar-AA1vpLdw
Algorithm used to deny claims
At the heart of the operation was PXDX, an algorithm developed by Cigna that enabled the company’s doctors to “automatically deny payments in batches of hundreds or thousands at a time”.
The system meant claims were rejected without opening files, “leaving thousands of patients effectively without coverage and unexpected bills”.
In just two months in 2022, it is alleged, Cigna’s doctors denied more than 300,000 requests for payment, spending 1.2 seconds “reviewing” each request.
The company was also accused of using the PXDX system in the knowledge that only around 2 per cent will contest the denial.
“I think they are all using AI to cost cut,” Glenn Danas from Clarkson Law Firm, which is representing the patients, told The Telegraph.
“Our position is not that AI has no role in the insurance industry, but it has to be used responsibly and in a way that does not supplant the doctor or individualised review.”
There are huge financial incentives to use AI, not only in cutting payouts but through savings on staff.
“It’s also probable that they are saving money from people who do not bother to appeal,” said Mr Danas.
Another major insurer, Anthem, ran into trouble over plans it had to cut reimbursements for anaesthesia during medical procedures.
It planned to refuse payment for anaesthesia if it went beyond an arbitrary time limit, irrespective of whether surgery was still going on.
KFF, a nonprofit health policy research, polling and news organisation, found that six out of 10 Americans ran into problems when they tried to claim on their insurance.
They either had claims turned down, faced delays getting prior authorisation for treatment, or found that their approved network of doctors and hospitals was inadequate.
Worst hit were those who either got their insurance from their employer, or the marketplace set up by Obamacare.
Our medical racket is pathetic.
Back when I was running employer based health insurance plans, claims disputes were causing a lot of unrest among employees. So we hired an independent ombudsman to investigate each dispute. We kept statistics on the results. About 5% of the problems were the employees messing something up. Another 5% was insurance company issues. 90% were attributed to providers. Sometimes it was innocent clerical error like entering a diagnosis or procedure code improperly. This is an absurdly complicated system with one of the codes being “injuries caused by flaming water skis” making it vulnerable to error. This problem is on the Feds and Yale University, not the insurance industry. But many other times, it was providers attempting to game the system by balance billing the patient contrary to contract or law.
This was before AI was invented but the most probable use of AI is to catch the rogue providers. They will then blame the insurance company when they send the balance bill.
what does ‘balance bill’ mean? they bill the patient for the full amount because the insurer denied claim? if so, isn’t that normal?
90% providers. I think they are just dropping the secondary insurance in hopes that people will just blindly pay thus improving their bottom line. My husband insisted to handle all the bills and I let him just to not have all that negativity but he was one of those who blindly paid without questioning or recognizing duplicate bills. Only one doctor had the integrity to refund the excess payments of his own volition. That doctor blamed the billing company that he had hired not the insurance company. We were special to him because we followed and supported him when others treated him very badly and put him in bad positions. He was a special pediatrician. Some of his employees were once babies that he had delivered. I’ve seen the good doctors ( one world renowned) being put through absolute hell by their peers in the industry. Those that have survived are not the most ethical. They conspire with the insurance to deny diagnosis and treatment and even overtly take great pleasure in doing so.
IDK. Anyone would have reason to kill these healthcare professionals. I get shitty care where i’m at. The good doctors make their money in the big cities. 200 mile radius of me is just small towns where doctors have come close to killing me 3 times. Malpractice??? Absolute joke, especially my perforated nerve from a nerve block behind my knee. Ya! That was supposed to ease the recovery pain of a surgery on a broken ankle. Now i’m stuck with a half numb lower leg and toes that shoot lightening bolts from nerve damage.
The costs are escalating and people are getting poorer. Something has got to give. The Hospitals are robbing people blind. I myself. I’d rather die than lose everything I’ve worked for.
Undocumented non-citizens age 65 and over
Undocumented non-citizens who are age 65 and over can join UnitedHealthcare Community
Plan’s Medicaid Managed Care plan. Previously these individuals were only able to receive
emergency medical services by using their Medicaid card. Now, these individuals will have
access to comprehensive healthcare services provided by UnitedHealthcare Community
Plan, which are listed fully in Part II of this handbook.
Services provided by UnitedHealthcare Community Plan include, but are not limited to:
• Routine preventative care such as vaccines and checkups,
• Mental health services,
• Dental benefits,
• Vision care,
• Family planning services,
• Emergency health care, and
• Nursing home services.
Eligible members can also access pharmacy benefits provided by NYRx, the Medicaid
pharmacy program, by using their Medicaid card.
https://www.uhc.com/communityplan/assets/plandocuments/handbook/en/NY-Medicaid-Handbook-Insert-EN.pdf
Yeah I suffer daily, sdh. Soul crushing pain in the spine.
No one that could help gives a fig. No assistance, medical or financial because “I have too many assets” whatever that means..
(newsflash, nobody wants my old pickup or sedan or my cats and dog) and even if I did have coverage they’d want me to eat opioids until I keel over from pancreatic cancer.
I also suffer daily. Some days more than others. Fluctuating symptoms are not allowed.
Everybody seems to be confusing professional with expert. All it takes to be a professional is getting paid. You don’t have to be a trained, experienced expert.
The two people in the photos don’t even look like the same person. Looks like a female in the left one, and a heavy-set male in the right one.
The police found a few live rounds. We don’t even know yet if they were the same caliber that was actually used.
Picture on the left is the assassin, while the person on the right is the victim.
That boy’s backpack just jumped up and appeared tossed on the ground. They believe he is either a disgruntled former employee or a pissed off customer. That should narrow down the list a bit.
Next thing you know his HIPA FILE will just appear on the lead investigators desk.
Well, if that’s what they “believe” it is likely not the case at all
We have facial recognition software, tracking of his movements, etc., but what is his name?
I’m sure they have an idea, but there’s no way they will release that information until they find him.
O/T
A Kentucky judge shot dead by a sheriff in his office ran it ‘like a brothel’ and was seen having sex with a ‘girl’ there, according to a witness’ statement to police.
District Judge Kevin Mullins, 54, was allegedly seen with the unidentified female in the same chambers where he was shot and killed by Letcher County Sheriff Shawn ‘Mickey’ Stines, 43, in September.
The allegation against the judge was made by Sabrina Adkins, a woman who was raped by one of Stines’ deputies, Ben Fields, according to police audios obtained by NewsNation.
MULTIPLE WOMEN /GIRLS INVOLVED
Adkins can be also heard saying that former deputy sheriff Fields ‘does have some videotapes of some stuff in the judge’s chambers… just with girls, sexual and stuff.’
She alleged that the tapes featured Fields and ‘some higher ups’ in the chambers having sex, suggesting there may be as-yet unidentified others involved in the sextortion scam.
Adkins said in a federal lawsuit that she could not afford to pay for an ankle monitor and did not want to return to Letcher County Jail.
Fields then coerced her into performing sexual favors so she could remain under home incarceration, according to a federal lawsuit in 2022.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14166413/kentucky-judge-kevin-mullins-shot-sheriff-shawn-mickey-stines.html
so can we get the same sort of data on the pipe bomber at the DNC headquarters??He’s a FED so there shud be lots of data
Won’t be surprised FBI and media cohorts initially implicate an innocent person for CEO assassination using “psychological profiling” and then conduct “trial by media” similar to FBI/Media investigation and trashing of innocent Richard Jewell for the high profile Atlanta Olympic bombing.
Truly amazing that the FBLie can’t find a broad-daylight murderer seen in multiple angles on multiple videos. They apparently also cannot find the alleged pipe bomb-carrying person seen in surveillance video on Jan. 6, 2021, but they can locate & wickedly prosecute a retired grandma who walked into the Capital building years ago. They can also create “evidence” against a random pro-life advocate who was peacefully standing on the sidewalk by an abortion clinic & send her to prison. Simply amazing. So very thankful Pres. Trump is back in town. Such a rotted blob that needs serious attention.
Correction to my earlier synopsis– he was an idiot… or this is just extra convenient:
“NYPD finds bag possibly belonging to UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s killer”
https://nypost.com/2024/12/06/us-news/nypd-finds-bag-possibly-belonging-to-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompsons-killer-in-central-park/
Barack “ the destroyer “ Obama destroyed health insurance in America! Take it from a “ Cadillac “ plan first hand experience member .
If you paid into insurance and they deny your claim, I could see where it may send someone over the edge, but not to the point of killing them, maybe it was a lifesaving claim that was denied and the person just snapped.
All it takes is one.
Wonder if the insurance industry was going to move to deny cover if you had taken the jab with it’s algorithms.
If the CEO was such a money grubber and looking for ways to deny claims at this point in time would he not be looking to deny the heavy increase in jab related medical incidents to save money?
My money is on the shooter being a relation(friend, partner or family) of someone that that had a claim denied.
Not a professional.
Place your bets.
I think the purposeful distraction is to cover up the fact that this particular CEO was about to become a HUGE liability to the Pelosis of the Uniparty vulture.
yes, i think so too. there was an insider trading investigation of UHC ongoing. not that Pelosi would get in trouble for that (it’s legal for Congress to do that; i wonder if that’s why so many refuse to retire?)
It’s not a ‘mystery’, The bullet casings stated delay, deny, defend. Like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay,_Deny,_Defend Police have traced this guy’s movements into Central Park, where there are no cameras. They are currently looking in the reservoir in the park for the gun, assuming that the gunman traveled north, dumped the gun in the reservoir, and continued out of the city over the GW Bridge, potentially to Newark to grab a bus or airplane.
People get murdered in broad daylight every day in NYC and it’s basically “meh”. One of the elites gets dropped and they create a fecking task force.
Arrived in town as him…left as “her.”
Agree
Tell the FBI he said bad things to administrators at a school board meeting.
He’ll be in jail yesterday.
Another covid death.
When I look at his hoodie picture, I think face mask. Otherwise, he would not be so brave to show his face anywhere. A tool he is and whose toolbox does he belong to? That is the question. Just MHO.
Dec 7 1941.
Did we ever find out the truth about Lee Harvey Oswald? Back in the day (I was just a kid) everyone accepted the gun that was held up for us to see and the perp walk…right into the sights of Jack Ruby. I just don’t know any more about what I am being fed…or even what my own eyes are seeing. With all of the mask, I’m going to be like pinching and stretching everyone’s faces to make sure they are who they say they are. Not as naive as the 60’s. Suspicious cat and I eat breakfast together.