PARDON? Democrats are now calling on Biden to pardon his entire administration, Democrats in Congress, and himself. So much for the party of ‘no one is above the law’!
“The visit to Luanda will see Biden focus on an $800m US-backed railway project in the Lobito Corridor. The passage is a strategic trade route that connects the resource-rich Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Zambia to Angola, which hosts the port of Lobito, located on the Atlantic Ocean.
Funded largely by the US and the European Union, the Lobito Atlantic Railway project will see an existing rail network in the Lobito Corridor upgraded. That would allow for the faster export of cobalt and copper, amongst other minerals, mined from the DRC’s Kolwezi mining town, to the West.
The DRC is one of the world’s largest producers of copper and cobalt. The minerals are key components of batteries that power electric vehicles, which the US and EU are eager to develop more of as demand for clean energy supply chains grows.
Washington has provided a $550m loan to start the project. The African Development Bank and the Africa Finance Corporation are also involved.“
You are correct. When’s the Supreme Court decision is announced about whether or not the 2020 election was stolen, all powers that had been illegally given to Joe Biden will evaporate. Anything he said, did, signed or agreed to will be null and void.
Once that has been taken care of, the next step will be going after the artificial construct, Barack Obama, and destroying his sandcastle of deceptions.
In this current civil war we’re waging the list of abolitions is long.
At least one person Joe can’t pardon — himself! If he’s “competent” enough to have stayed in office, he’s guilty (& competent) enough to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison – after ALL his assets have been seized and returned to the taxpayers!
it’s never been tested. Ford pardoned Nixon. There was some talk about Nixon doing this himself, but never wanted the constitutional entanglements nor the political=personal drama and back lash. So he had Ford do it.
But scholars have argued, for and against, this subject ever since. There is in fact no prohibition against it in the constitution, but also there are not provisions saying so explicitly. Where this gets interesting is that under executive powers, A President ALONE, can assume the unchallenged priviledge of declaring what is allowed and what is not. For instance, to order the assassination of a terrorist. A president can do this. You try that and you will find yourself prosecuted for murder. A president has this authority, can exercise it and not be held accountable. As scotus has recently REITERATED: official acts of a president cannot be violations of law!
a finer reading of the constitution, one can make the logical and rational argument that therefore the President can effectively pardon him/her self in defense of a possible criminal federal violation that is lodged or presumed to be lodged against him/her.
the constitution, must be considered in both a textual and contextual basis. This is how I believe it is best to be understood. The founders gave presidents enormous powers, king like….they also made it clear these were plenary executive powers…not subject to challenge by prosecutors.
what made the Nixon case and the Clinton case different is that both had lied to the American people…but also that neither of them faced legal federal indictments. the remedy, again, designed by the founders who be a “trial” by impeachment requiring Congress, the house and Senate to remove a president for case. But it would never rise to a criminal indictment. it might follow the same kind of trajectory with evidence, witnesses, testimony, cross examination…but it would never be a federal court room and nor would it be consequential wrt jail or prison …just and only removal from office. impeachment.
what has changed recently is that the corruptors have attempted to subvert the constitution and indict and charge President Trump WITH federal violations of law. Fortunately, these cases have been withdrawn allegedly because main justice realizes they would never win the election, these cases were not winnable, never winnable before the election results and inauguration (key), and that their time is running to an end..literally these people are going to get their authorities removed…day one…bank on it.
but back to the point. There is a pretty good reason to believe that a President can pardon himself. It would be in keeping with the kind of powers the founders had described and written into the constitution to prevent situations where criminal allegations of violations could literally cause so much mayhem that nothing could ever happen and the country would therefore suffer under a never ending game of how many charges can we file in a day. Again, being geniuses inspired by God, they were very prescient to understand how to navigate a nation in spite of the reprobates who would become anarchist and self serving sons of bitches.
Yea, if nothing else, go after him using the civil forfeiture scam our government, I call the “American Mafia”, uses against innocent people to seize their assets without a trial by jury and criminal conviction. Wouldn’t that be sweet justice for “Traitor Joe”???
Many states are now getting rid of their civil asset forfeiture bc it’s a disgusting abuse of power. The Feds incentivized the cops to do it by promising a finders fee percentage of the proceeds. It’s crazy how bad the Feds have trampled on our rights in such a short time.
The path to correcting for J6, is far more than just the release of all of the J6 prisoners.
A fundamental false narrative , a lie has been promulgated on the World, and it MUST be corrected.
The lie is that J6 was an attempted insurrection by PDJT supporters who engaged in violent acts, in an attempt to prevent the election results from being certified.
The Truth was it was all a set up, carried out by the FBI C.I.’s and agents, to create a justification for Congressional leadership to declare an emergency, suspend regular order, and therefore avoid the results being contested.
Its too late to correct the false narrative on Russia, Russia, and it will go down in the history books as being a “political dirty trick by the Clinton Campaign, that got out of hand when it fooled the FBI..
We MUST correct the narrative on J6, to include Regitigers anayses,AS the official explanation of what happened, and that means exposing the FBI involvement, the pipe bombs, the two white busses of FBI agitators, …ALL of it has to be exposed for all to see, and so completely that none can deny.
You are so right. J6 is a cancer in our society. It erodes the rule of law and basic human decency.
J6 — all of it including the so-called committee that was actually a gang of thugs — needs to be uncovered and the criminals held to account. Until that happens a festering sickness will continue to infect our society and keep us from being able to carve out the rot.
“Crazy Liz Cheney, who may be responsible for destroying the evidence from the J6 Unselect Committee, making all cases, past and present, highly questionable, AT BEST, is suffering from a massive case of TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.”
Agree with you, Dutchman. As written by Treepers, Joe’s pardon is an admission of guilt. J6 pardons would be labeled by MSM as admission of guilt, too. And, for what are they guilty? Let’s have the truth be loud and clear.
My feeling is that we clawback every paycheck, possession and every pension of whoever decided to torture all persons who are Citizens of the US.
Lawyers’ fees, transportation, pain and suffering, being made whole, all compensation for wives miscarrying and losing a baby prior to birth, taxes, unpaid bills, medical issues, unemployment…you name it.
US citizens should not be liable for criminals who overtook our government.
Stomp to the ground.
These people should be of a kind never to be allowed to exist again.
Thank you, David Plouffe.
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grad
December 1, 2024 10:49 pm
What I would expect Trump/Republicans to do is demand that every person in the Justice Department that was consulted about the pardon and DID NOT speak against it, should resign immediately.
This travesty will give Hunter the OK to get back on the needle and Joe will soon bury his other son from a fentanyl overdose. Hundreds of thousands of better men than Hunter have done so.
Landslide24
December 1, 2024 10:52 pm
Hunter is merely a symptom of the cancer long metastasized in DC.
He is small potatoes by comparison.
I want Obama, Jarrett, Eisen, Wray, Mayorkas, Garland, Brennan, Comey, Miley, and a host of others.
Biden cannot pardon those who have not yet been charged, and he will be OUT in less than 60 days with no power left to him.
You must not have heard the tapes. Now, I think everything Nixon did pales in comparison to what Obama and Biden did, but let’s be honest here. Nixon was no saint.
He was also framed by the FBI. Remember, “Deep Throat” was Mark Felt, Associate Director of the FBI. From Felt to Comey to Wray, nothing has changed at the FBI. Hopefully Kash will clean house!
Because Ford came through the Warren Commission, and our government had to take Nixon out. They could not k+ll another president so soon, so they needed to take him out politically, IMHO.
Ford was never elected to VP or POTUS. Total frame job. Ford was in on it. Take Agnew out, install Ford as VP, then take out Nixon.
Oil on fire.
The GOP tried to make Reagan take Ford as VP in ’79, knowing that the ticket would lose. The press made everyone hate Ford for pardoning Nixon.
Reagan refused, so they demanded he take Daddy CIA, George HW Bush.
And in spite of all of them, Reagan WON!!!
However, George HW Bush babysat Reagan during his presidency. Reagan got away with as much as he could. CFR and WEF you know!
Do not forget, the Hincklys were friends of the Bushes. Crazy, huh? Reagan’s attempted assassin.
I also believe George HW was cast aside to install Bill Clinton, a failed Rhode Scholar who had to be whisked away from Oxford because he raped Eileen Wellstone. Yet Bill needed to be installed as President, same as Obama later on. Very similar backgrounds all. Clinton, Obama, Harris.
Apparently a former US State Department officer came to take Bill out of the school to bury that particular story. .
History is something else if you can find it!
I just went to go look online about the details. They have all turned into Snopes. Best of luck. I am certain others on TCH have some wayback info on this. Seems all has been scrapped.
Obama and Clinton for sure, according to Patel they were the ones funding the Russia collusion hoax. Wonder if he’s still skulking around in the tunnels under the WH that leads to his mansion?
It works for me as posted. However, for those for whom it is not working, I suggest copy and pasting it into your address window and then deleting the s located behind
http at the beginning of the address, then pressing “Enter.” I can’t guarantee that will work; but, it has worked for me in the past in similar situations.
It works for me as posted. However, for those for whom it is not working, I suggest copy and pasting it into your address window and then deleting the s located behind
http at the beginning of the address, then pressing “Enter.” I can’t guarantee that will work; but, it has worked for me in the past in similar situations.
I always include the “www(dot)” when I post them here.
Test:
Mr. Wray, Remain close to DC. Your presence will be commanded. Repeatedly. In this Holiest of seasons, as you box up your mementos of oppression, may visions of the thousands of American J6 families you’ve destroyed dance through your head. Merry Christmas. Higgins out. pic.twitter.com/KjdsmqVGFs
Hunter Biden’s pardon by President Joe Biden raises ethical concerns, political repercussions, and public debate. It’s a significant issue, highlighting potential conflicts of interest and the use of presidential power.
This was all foreseen. The Biden family grift is over. No one in the world is going to pay them for anything and no one in the democrats party is gonna touch them with a ten foot pole.
I believe this is why the trip to Angola. The must be something Joe’s handlers can do before he leaves office.
Landslide24
December 1, 2024 11:18 pm
Interesting potential dynamic setting up here.
Dem shills are now calling for Biden to issue blanket pardons for all dem operatives and personages who they think could be targets of future prosecutions.
Criminals, preemptively pardoned by a criminal, to avoid accountability and wholesale destruction of leftist political infrastructure.
The good news?
This was easily foreseen, and everything these cockroaches do winds up backfiring on them.
Who says Trump cannot rescind Biden’s pardon of his own son, or anyone else associated with the Biden admin, especially when there is a clear cut case of conflict of interest?
Re “Who says Trump cannot rescind Biden’s pardon of his own son, or anyone else associated with the Biden admin…?”
The Constitution says so by not making any provision for that scenario… Therefore, all presidential pardons are legally irreversible however despicable they are.
Rather than the pardons anyone wants to escape accountability, I think all involved in the political shakedown and the planned destruction of the USA be PUT ON FREEDOM DIET OF FENTENAL.
Let him pardon them all, then subpoena everyone pardoned to testify to their crimes. Then fire them all.
kinthenorthwest
December 1, 2024 11:18 pm
No governmental official should ever be able to pardon a member of their very own family spouse or child. This is past crazy.
Yet on the other hand I have a feeling it was actually not Biden, but his wife or whomever else has been pulling the strings Whomever fixed up the papers were probably bribed or blackmailed by the lucid/sane Biden family members so that the Bidens that are lucid won’t let all the demonic crimes that have been committed by globalist around the world would not be given to the press.
However, I do believe from what I have seen Hunter is so stupid that he will most likely commit many other crimes. within months of his father’s official leaving of the WH.
But not what i was talking about! I was talking about the pardoning of blood! relatives or wife—“No governmental official should ever be able to pardon a member of their very own family spouse or child.“
Probably Trump should’ve stayed away from Charles Kushner,’s mess!
Do find it it weird that that almost immediately after Trump’s first term ended Ivanka started distancing herself and family from Trump! Did the pardon of Ivanka’s father-in-law have anything to do with it? Was Ivanka and her husband for or against the pardon!
I expect extraordinary blanket pardons for many people by Biden on the morning of January 20th.
All Biden family, all with anything having to do with harassing President Trump, including Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, you name it…Brennan, Clapper, and all other stooges.
Then, we will see what PT will do about it. Not certain if pardoned, income or anything else cannot be clawed back?
This will be interesting.
NaSa
December 1, 2024 11:38 pm
Mike Benz has already pointed out that Hunter Biden was one of the CIA’s Uniparty assets in Ukraine. Cofer Black, the adviser to Romney in 2012 was the other.
We can now clearly see why the 51 intel officials signed the letter about the Biden criminal family laptop… They were protecting their own.
The rot within the US national security state runs so deep that it will take eons before it can get partially cleaned up… If ever.
I think the pardon powers are pretty sweeping. I remember Marc Rich, convicted tax offender pardoned by Clinton several years after his escape from the US
be a lot faster if we just used the French way of cleaning that mess up. besides the Mall is big enough for a lot of people to watch in real time. get a couple of big screen TVs for the folks in the back to see too.
and the is also the chance that the lesson will not be forgotten so soon afterwards by people.
Marshall
December 1, 2024 11:40 pm
Does this mean the painting I purchased will up or down in value?
HAHAHA…..my little nephew reaches and grabs from what is in his diaper…..and then paints on the walls with his hands and fingers. What he paints WITH is what Hunter’s paintings are worth.
With the pardon, you can’t be prosecuted for the covered offenses, so you may need to testify. This could mean sharing important information, but it also ensures your protection from self-incrimination.
Yes, exactly. With the pardon, Hunter Biden can admit to breaking the law without facing penalties for those specific offenses. By testifying, he can also help the legal process by providing valuable information.
H was pardoned from federal crimes. H’s lawyers would argue that H has exposure under state criminal statutes, so they would advise him to take the 5th.
like I’ve been saying. there are other ways of dealing justice. when the law is corrupt, it won’t come from the law. dont hold up law like it’s some pristine ideal. that’s a flaw in reasoning on our side. when evil men run government, the laws they create are evil. do we follow evil law?
Lorrie Girten
December 2, 2024 12:26 am
The corruption and intrigue is beyond a Hollywood cloak-and- dagger 🗡️ –edge of your seat 💺– epic.
The people have resoundingly spoken,
“We are mad as hell, and we won’t take it anymore!”
The Republicans need to impeach Biden on obstruction of justice before he leaves office. Only takes 218 votes in the House. Forget about the Senate trial.
Biden has already impeached himself in the court of public opinion. It’s a waste of time to do this and a distraction from other pressing matters, such as getting the federal budget figured out and investigating in detail the government’s J6 fedsurrection.
rsexteriors
December 2, 2024 12:50 am
Biden had to pardon Hunter. And from what I have heard the Pardon is a blanket pardon for what he was convicted of any everything else. If Hunter had gone to jail he would have been a big pussy and turned RAT on the Biden Crime Family
Susan D Harms
December 2, 2024 1:04 am
“For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss.” Really? He can pardon someone for crimes that have not been charged? I dont think so. Could this invalidate the pardon?
Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon before any crimes were charged. The precedent has been set.
I think it possible that all future presidents will be issuing blanket pardons to everyone who served in their administration for federal crimes they may have committed before and during their service in that president’s administration.
Yes, doing this would be an abuse of power by any president who does it. That said, I don’t know how these blanket pardons could be prevented without amending the constitution.
I know that Kash and others in Trump’s orbit have been backpedaling in public about pardoning ALL J6 patriots, saying “but not the violent ones”. That’s a fig leaf to ensure they are not attacked by our “loyal opposition” Senators (i.e. that’s all of them, Dem and RINO) for “promising to pardon violent criminals”.
Well, JoeBiden, Inc. just pardoned his son for a “gun related crime”. That ought to give the Trump DOJ the political latitude to do the right thing, for ALL the J6 patriots. If Trump can’t pardon outright those accused/convicted in a shame trial of “violent” offenses, the Trump DOJ can point to the fact that their civil rights were violated during the prosecution by the former Communist Presidential Administration, to enable Trump to at least commute their sentences.
How do we know the “violent ones” weren’t fed related?
John Comnenus
December 2, 2024 2:50 am
We will know how corrupt they Bidens & Dems are by how many pardons are granted by Joe. I would want a pardon less I spill the beans if I were Wray, Smith, Mayorkas, Sullivan, Blinken, Nuland, Monaco etc etc. We will know how corrupt the Dems are by the number of pardons Joe gives. Has any President ever pardoned 2 family members? Himself? Cabinet members? I suggest Sundance starts a pardon watch thread. BTW apparently if you r pardoned u can’t plead the 5th. So bring them back under oath and ask questions. Either they lie & they can be charged unaffected by a pardon, or they can tell the truth & reveal how corrupt the Dems are.
SpurrierFan
December 2, 2024 2:56 am
Let’s not feign surprise that this happened. We knew all along it was going to happen.
The big question is now that he is pardoned, can’t he be compelled to testify in any of the cases against people who were coconspirators of the crimes committed? Like, Joe’s brother, Jill, Joe’s daughter and many others?
If he lies, those who be new, prosecutable crimes. This could be interesting.
Eric V
December 2, 2024 2:56 am
Let’s see. 01 January 2014. Rings a bell. Oh yeah. 2014 is when the Obama Regime overthrew the duly elected pro Russian President of Ukraine. And Metobiata began operating its contract biolabs in Ukraine.
If this does not motivate PDJT to issue a blanket pardon to every J6 hostage, and I mean every single one, then I will be seriously considering no longer self identifying as a MAGA supporter. Not that it would matter, but I don’t think I’ll be alone.
Well, Joe may have opened the door on the 4437. If it’s ok for the POTUS kid to lie on the 4437, and the illegally obtain a gun based on that lie (both felonies) then it must be ok for anyone else to do the same.
“One of the classics was some guy screaming ‘I think he’s a Fed’.. they’re looking at this guy.. screaming orders to people ‘Go in, go into the Capitol’ and nothing ever happened (to him).” pic.twitter.com/xRydVxszaq
The Bidens and all the other criminals in Washington DC can be subjected to massive civil lawsuits under federal law. There is no “pardon” to prevent that.
No matter who is pardoned, everything of value they own can be taken away in civil court proceedings. Not paying federal taxes on ill-gotten gains can easily result in forfeiture of massive amounts of money. Let’s see what the IRS can do to those who have abused its great power against others.
For these scoundrels, having every penny they extorted or have stolen TAKEN AWAY will be a wonderful dose of justice.
If you can’t put DC scoundrels in prison, put them out on the street as homeless derelicts. Life sleeping in a Maytag box would be a just outcome. Broke and powerless is what they have imposed upon others. It is a fitting repayment to them.
regitiger
December 2, 2024 4:14 am
as promises made rules go (Joe malarkey is certainly the exception), I am pretty sure I am reading this one very clear:
President Trump is making is very clear he has every intention of pardoning J6 protestors.
we will hold him to his no so veiled words…because this is not the time or the place to be mocking Joe malarkey for his foolish lies. We have to be BIGGER BETTER STRONGER AND RIGHT.
do the right thing President Trump. Pardon these people. ALL OF THEM
and then after that, immediately begin and investigation and indict the capitol police officer WHO MURDERED ASHLI BABBIT. the ONLY person who I was killed (MURDERED) on that day.
this is about KEEPING YOUR WORD.
we KNOW Joe malarkey is incapable of keeping his word..he has never kept his word. he is a navel gazing ambulatory pathological liar and cheat and conman…
we return to normalcy when RIGHT completely eclipses every single thing this clown has done to this country. and the handlers who drive him…we must never forget who they are and what kind of justice they must face for their contributions to this insanity they have created and profited from.
also noting: Biden the stupid has made a galactic sized mistake..again
by declaring bookend dates to his clemency order, he has whether intentional or not, opened up the potential that hunter (AND OTHERS) can actually be prosecuted for crimes beyond those periods.
-Even moreso, by specifying those dates (particularly significantly, the start date) and making the pardon as broad and seepingly comprehensive as he has, he has unwittingly telegraphed that *serious* perpery was in fact comitted *within* that timeframe (again, particularly with respect to the start date (- Ukraine, anyone?)). The entire pardon is akin to Frank Drebin in The Naked Gun standing in front of the exploding fireworks factory, yelling “NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!”.
The truth of those crimes may still be gotten at and prosecuted within a criminal courtroom by other means, at least with respect to the co-conspiritors, as others up-thread have already noted, especially if Hunter is compelled to testify without cover of ‘taking the fif”.
my sincere apologies…I stand corrected. I meant no dishonor to her life taken at the hands of jackboots. I get emotional sometimes when I write. Today was one of those days.
All of the devices owned and all communications of the capitol police captain who shot her have been collected. I believe his day is coming.
teaforall
December 2, 2024 4:49 am
We knew this would happen as soon as Biden dropped out of the race
Hunter is SCUM hiding out at the white house with old JOE
Investigate the BIDEN CRIME FAMILY
Buckwheat
December 2, 2024 4:59 am
I thought it odd that Biden came home from Nantucket and left within hours for Uganda.
Bonny
December 2, 2024 5:00 am
Pray for all of them, We must pray for our enemies, inside this country or outside this country.
Alexander McDougall
December 2, 2024 5:14 am
This will only make the J6er’s pardon all the sweeter!!
OldSaltUSNR
December 2, 2024 5:22 am
Think about this, this way. Joe pardoned Hunter, and no one else.
The names on that target rich environment are already on the prepared pardons Obiden will sign on his last day(s) in office……Mayorkis, Austin, Nuland, etc.
J Brown
December 2, 2024 5:27 am
It’s amusing that, in the private sector, someone with Joe’s cognitive capacity would not be allowed to make any legal decisions at all.
Bingo,not fit to run again but fit to run out the term. I can’t believe the public bought that one.
Thought Criminal
December 2, 2024 5:57 am
I’m surprised that everyone is surprised.
Does this include back taxes too?
EE
December 2, 2024 6:03 am
The DJT post on Truth Social is an UNDERSTATEMENT! I’ve never seen anything like this by any US President. The pardon is a huge clue as to what not only Hunter but the Bidens have been up to. Use of the office of the president of the United States to perpetrate criminal activity is fraud, anything done by fraud is void ab initio (as if it never happened), (see Rule 60, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure). What better justice than to void an entire presidency, and if a presidency is voided because of fraud, everything done during it is voided, including pardons. Think also, the billions of dollars to Ukraine, where Hunter had his hands in multiple labs and more, and who is holding those billions for the Bidens’ benefit. Ongoing criminal activity, no statute of limitations problem, that encompasses Obama, Harris, Hillary, the net is huge, RICO!
Quaere verum
December 2, 2024 6:06 am
Does this pardon mean Hunter can be brought up to Congress or the Legal System and testify about the Crime Family and not fall back on pleading the 5th.
Kathy
December 2, 2024 6:15 am
Free all those j6 people also,
Mike
December 2, 2024 6:25 am
I am happy about this. I really thought there were powerful underlings that would protect Hunter down the road, quietly. This shouts out loud and very clearly who Joe Biden (et al.) really is (are). There is no possible defense of this: a broken promise (again), and a perfect example of nepotism at the highest level. This was all negotiated when Jill and Hunter agreed to let “pops” drop out of the race. Defend this all you leftists!
For some reason, I can’t get too spun up about this. Hunter Biden, a private person who was neither an elected official nor government employee, was a tool of Joe Biden and also the fault of Barack Obama. How about the Pelosi family? The Clintons. John Kerry, et al. All the covidian employees in NIH and CDC now making millions from Big Pharma. The corrupt prosecutors, both federal and state. There are so many who seem worse to me.
He was never a “private person” the moment he became entangled with massively consequential global government corruption. He wasn’t a plumber. He wasn’t a professional ANYTHING. No skills and as far as I understand it, never applied any law training in any professional capacity. Groomed for this role by all appearances.
“Private person” in the sense that I was using the phrase means that he was not someone who was elected to office and then violated his oath, and he was not someone who was employed by the taxpayer.
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He was not private in the sense that he was allegedly a conduit to accept bribes from foreign states on behalf of elected representatives in the highest positions.
Other than possibly committing treason on behalf of the president, he was just another ordinary Joe.
He took an oath to become a practicing lawyer, the alleged skills he was being hired for. The oath is to faithfully follow the laws and the Constitution of the U.S. and the same for any state he chose to practice in. He broke it, BIGLY. Laws mean nothing to him and his family.
He is not pardoned for State crimes. Whatever State crimes needs to be investigated and action taken. With a pardon he can not plead the 5th if testifying about other federal crimes against others. We need followup…bill
“.... he was not someone who was employed by the taxpayer.”
Well, not directly, knowingly or willingly, I’ll grant you that much.
Yet we taxpayers wound up paying dearly for all the havoc, corruption and criminality his involvement aided & abetted.
He wasn’t a child when he went to Ukraine under the Burisma shield or to the CCP. And he didn’t operate independent of significant Pay For Play/ Quid Pro Quo for his father. That’s aiding & abetting.
He’s the tip of an enormous iceberg of government corruption, malfeasance and criminality.
And literally everyone who reads current news knows it.
With everything I have read past few years I wonder Hunter was molested by his father and would not that would mess up most anyone. Do I excuse Hunter’s behavior? Certainly not. However I think he in a private hell of his father’s making. I have seen this behavior in foster children. Nuff said.
I mentioned this before it’s all about ‘rule of law’, justice.
This is exactly how Jesus was crucified and Barabbas was set free.
People have lost all sight of right and wrong. “We win” is the substitute, it’s all that matters.
Been thinking about how stupid they think we are for a while now, especially since I live in a hard core socialist area of the U.S.
Look at an election map, one that shows dem voters in one color and rep voters in another color, and you won’t miss the massive socialist area of Minnesota called the arrowhead — the area of land that juts out over Lake Superior. The arrowhead is blue; but what else would become of the area where Gus Hall was born and raised along with all his other socialist/communist siblings?
Since I live in a communist country locked within the U.S., I believe they know we are very smart, but here they just laugh and high-five one another knowing they are in control of every paper — even the small fish rags — every radio and tv station, and most businesses, and they’ll do whatever they want with whatever they want.
Our small town mayor was well loved by everyone. Then he endorsed President Trump for the 2020 election. From that moment on there was a major smear campaign against him, his wife and his children. Everyone who had something negative to say about any of them had free reign to say so in the local rag paper, and everyone who had something to say in his defense was told the information they gave had to be “verified” before it could be printed. The papers constantly blocked all positive information sent, and verified the information into oblivion.
The mayor was kicked out in a special election, and an outsider who’d been living here for less than 2 years was elected mayor. Of course he had good socialist standing. . .
So they know we are smart, but they know, too, that they own almost every way there is to get information to the masses.
Almost.
A week before the special election to kick the mayor out I got so angry about what the papers were doing that decided to print my own “paper” and walk door-to-door and deliver it. Others volunteered to help with that job, and we were able to get the truth to everyone’s front door.
Funny thing in a small socialist town. . . the first socialist that got that flyer sent a message out on some socialist neighborhood social media account, and by the time we’d gone two blocks other socialists started coming to their front doors yelling at us, ‘Don’t leave that ______ at my house!’ They literally started yelling, loudly, and refused to read anything that gave a differing point of view.
My guess is Hunter is an innocent angel to the people of my small town, and he’ll be free to do whatever he wants to do with whomever he wants to do it.
The J6ers are the ones suffering in the dc gulag. Old hunter will never pay for the wrongs he has done, at least in this life. Most of the J6ers have done nothing wrong or broken no laws. This is the travesty of a corrupt dept. of injustice.
There’s a reason people, in general, seem OK with it. EVERYONE, at some level, understands the government is normally operated by “expert bureaucracy.” A fair number of those understand that it’s not constitutional but already feel resigned to a reality where it doesn’t matter… “it’s gone and it’s never coming back.”
Personally, I’ve never felt that way… and when I go near the notion, I become nauseous.
What do I have that most other people do not? Still wondering about that question.
I keep hearing on TV how ‘most fathers would pardon their son, if they had this power’. I don’t think that’s true. I think most good men would have long ago resigned their position if their son had gotten into trouble that reflects on the father himself. (i.e. that Hunter was doing Joe’s bidding and both father & son benefitted financially). I call BS on these apologists, who conclude they are only upset that Biden lied about planning to do the pardon (but not mad about the pardon iteself).
So, I apologize for not knowing, but can a President pardon a family member so easily? That just seems sooo unethical.
Lemontree8580
December 2, 2024 7:00 am
Bannon said he should pardon Hunter since he could never last in prison. Had he not allowed all the J6 people to rot in horrible conditions many without even having due process, no one would be as upset as we are. And then to claim his son was targeted and would never have been charged if he wasn’t his son, is so damn insulting. He was more than willing to toss Trump in jail for the rest of his life for a misdemeanor.
FJB says Hunter committed the tax crimes while addicted to drugs, another lie.
“Ziegler alleges that Hunter admitted in his book that he filed “false tax returns when he was newly sober.”
So even in the wording of the pardon, what Joe Biden is trying to sell us is malarkey, after lying that he wouldn’t pardon his son.”
By that thinking, if I ever kill someone while DWI-ing, I’ll be excused, just like Hunter. Cause it really wasn’t my fault, it was the 10 beers I drank. Isn’t that right, Joe?
Hey don’t walk away, Joe; I asked you a ques- .. Where are wandering off to, Joe?
@amuse
PARDON? Democrats are now calling on Biden to pardon his entire administration, Democrats in Congress, and himself. So much for the party of ‘no one is above the law’!
https://x.com/amuse/status/1863422760539623496
At this point, I would not be surprised.
fine. he is not a real president…. that will be proven and all pardons will be… overturned!!
I don’t think Presidential pardons for past acts can be overturned. But I doubt Hunter is capable of staying on the right side of the law forever.
What if the pardon came from an incapacitated president with no legal ability to do so?
Like today 12/02/24.
Dad is going to Angola? Why?
To collect 10% for the Big Guy, of course:
“The visit to Luanda will see Biden focus on an $800m US-backed railway project in the Lobito Corridor. The passage is a strategic trade route that connects the resource-rich Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Zambia to Angola, which hosts the port of Lobito, located on the Atlantic Ocean.
Funded largely by the US and the European Union, the Lobito Atlantic Railway project will see an existing rail network in the Lobito Corridor upgraded. That would allow for the faster export of cobalt and copper, amongst other minerals, mined from the DRC’s Kolwezi mining town, to the West.
The DRC is one of the world’s largest producers of copper and cobalt. The minerals are key components of batteries that power electric vehicles, which the US and EU are eager to develop more of as demand for clean energy supply chains grows.
Washington has provided a $550m loan to start the project. The African Development Bank and the Africa Finance Corporation are also involved.“
You are correct. When’s the Supreme Court decision is announced about whether or not the 2020 election was stolen, all powers that had been illegally given to Joe Biden will evaporate. Anything he said, did, signed or agreed to will be null and void.
Once that has been taken care of, the next step will be going after the artificial construct, Barack Obama, and destroying his sandcastle of deceptions.
In this current civil war we’re waging the list of abolitions is long.
It is just a matter of logistics on how to legally cement all.
Spiritual war!!
His entire time in the Oval should be declared Null and Void!
Let alone each of his 50+ years on the public dole, laced with laundered money. Some Big Guy!
Who is the woman the corruptacrats sent out to float that idea?
At least one person Joe can’t pardon — himself! If he’s “competent” enough to have stayed in office, he’s guilty (& competent) enough to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison – after ALL his assets have been seized and returned to the taxpayers!
Actually, I think he can pardon himself
it’s never been tested. Ford pardoned Nixon. There was some talk about Nixon doing this himself, but never wanted the constitutional entanglements nor the political=personal drama and back lash. So he had Ford do it.
But scholars have argued, for and against, this subject ever since. There is in fact no prohibition against it in the constitution, but also there are not provisions saying so explicitly. Where this gets interesting is that under executive powers, A President ALONE, can assume the unchallenged priviledge of declaring what is allowed and what is not. For instance, to order the assassination of a terrorist. A president can do this. You try that and you will find yourself prosecuted for murder. A president has this authority, can exercise it and not be held accountable. As scotus has recently REITERATED: official acts of a president cannot be violations of law!
a finer reading of the constitution, one can make the logical and rational argument that therefore the President can effectively pardon him/her self in defense of a possible criminal federal violation that is lodged or presumed to be lodged against him/her.
the constitution, must be considered in both a textual and contextual basis. This is how I believe it is best to be understood. The founders gave presidents enormous powers, king like….they also made it clear these were plenary executive powers…not subject to challenge by prosecutors.
what made the Nixon case and the Clinton case different is that both had lied to the American people…but also that neither of them faced legal federal indictments. the remedy, again, designed by the founders who be a “trial” by impeachment requiring Congress, the house and Senate to remove a president for case. But it would never rise to a criminal indictment. it might follow the same kind of trajectory with evidence, witnesses, testimony, cross examination…but it would never be a federal court room and nor would it be consequential wrt jail or prison …just and only removal from office. impeachment.
what has changed recently is that the corruptors have attempted to subvert the constitution and indict and charge President Trump WITH federal violations of law. Fortunately, these cases have been withdrawn allegedly because main justice realizes they would never win the election, these cases were not winnable, never winnable before the election results and inauguration (key), and that their time is running to an end..literally these people are going to get their authorities removed…day one…bank on it.
but back to the point. There is a pretty good reason to believe that a President can pardon himself. It would be in keeping with the kind of powers the founders had described and written into the constitution to prevent situations where criminal allegations of violations could literally cause so much mayhem that nothing could ever happen and the country would therefore suffer under a never ending game of how many charges can we file in a day. Again, being geniuses inspired by God, they were very prescient to understand how to navigate a nation in spite of the reprobates who would become anarchist and self serving sons of bitches.
God Bless America
There is one law giver. God.
Thank God we live in the age of grace.
I think one thing we all know is that Hunter has not been clean for five years. That was one reason he scraped all the hair off his skull.
Fine and very accurate comment, Reg. Thank you for posting it.
They’ll all be gone day one for sure bc letting them stay is approval of what they did. Thus, the axe is imminent
Yea, if nothing else, go after him using the civil forfeiture scam our government, I call the “American Mafia”, uses against innocent people to seize their assets without a trial by jury and criminal conviction. Wouldn’t that be sweet justice for “Traitor Joe”???
After that, we need to do something about civil forfeiture, 18 U.S. Code § 981 as it was intended to go after organized crime, but the criminal organization we call our federal government and law enforcement (FBI) use it to destroy innocent lives and their political opponents. Congress knows it and does nothing about it. Check this real-life story out written by an attorney: https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/civil-forfeiture-turns-lives-upside-down-ruins-families-just-like-mine?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202024-12-01&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement&tpcc=email
Many states are now getting rid of their civil asset forfeiture bc it’s a disgusting abuse of power. The Feds incentivized the cops to do it by promising a finders fee percentage of the proceeds. It’s crazy how bad the Feds have trampled on our rights in such a short time.
Or the Police picking items off the racks at FedEx’s second largest sorting operation!
We will pardon himself, but by the time it gets to SCOTUS, if he’s still around, he will be officially diagnosed with dementia anyway.
At that point, the position becomes moot.
I think the J6 ruse is officially over
Now it’s time to roll up these communists and imprison them as they persecuted the innocent
Amen MVMAN, I’m Praying President Trump declares all j6pats released before he strolls through the Rotunda
The path to correcting for J6, is far more than just the release of all of the J6 prisoners.
A fundamental false narrative , a lie has been promulgated on the World, and it MUST be corrected.
The lie is that J6 was an attempted insurrection by PDJT supporters who engaged in violent acts, in an attempt to prevent the election results from being certified.
The Truth was it was all a set up, carried out by the FBI C.I.’s and agents, to create a justification for Congressional leadership to declare an emergency, suspend regular order, and therefore avoid the results being contested.
Its too late to correct the false narrative on Russia, Russia, and it will go down in the history books as being a “political dirty trick by the Clinton Campaign, that got out of hand when it fooled the FBI..
We MUST correct the narrative on J6, to include Regitigers anayses,AS the official explanation of what happened, and that means exposing the FBI involvement, the pipe bombs, the two white busses of FBI agitators, …ALL of it has to be exposed for all to see, and so completely that none can deny.
IMHO,..
You are so right. J6 is a cancer in our society. It erodes the rule of law and basic human decency.
J6 — all of it including the so-called committee that was actually a gang of thugs — needs to be uncovered and the criminals held to account. Until that happens a festering sickness will continue to infect our society and keep us from being able to carve out the rot.
called
“Unselect”
Maga Words Great Again
“Crazy Liz Cheney, who may be responsible for destroying the evidence from the J6 Unselect Committee, making all cases, past and present, highly questionable, AT BEST, is suffering from a massive case of TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111531816525104515
“What a set up that was. What a horrible, horrible thing.”
Crescendo…
It did not fool the fbi what are you talking about? They knew the whole time.
Yes, no pardons needed. save for informant or assets.
Agree with you, Dutchman. As written by Treepers, Joe’s pardon is an admission of guilt. J6 pardons would be labeled by MSM as admission of guilt, too. And, for what are they guilty? Let’s have the truth be loud and clear.
He has already said the cases will be reviewed individually, it’s entirely possible a few instigators are mixed with the innocent.
Not only imprison them But their bank accounts need to be emptied and every penny turned over to the families of J6
My feeling is that we clawback every paycheck, possession and every pension of whoever decided to torture all persons who are Citizens of the US.
Lawyers’ fees, transportation, pain and suffering, being made whole, all compensation for wives miscarrying and losing a baby prior to birth, taxes, unpaid bills, medical issues, unemployment…you name it.
US citizens should not be liable for criminals who overtook our government.
Stomp to the ground.
These people should be of a kind never to be allowed to exist again.
Thank you, David Plouffe.
What I would expect Trump/Republicans to do is demand that every person in the Justice Department that was consulted about the pardon and DID NOT speak against it, should resign immediately.
All should resign irrespective.
This travesty will give Hunter the OK to get back on the needle and Joe will soon bury his other son from a fentanyl overdose. Hundreds of thousands of better men than Hunter have done so.
Hunter is merely a symptom of the cancer long metastasized in DC.
He is small potatoes by comparison.
I want Obama, Jarrett, Eisen, Wray, Mayorkas, Garland, Brennan, Comey, Miley, and a host of others.
Biden cannot pardon those who have not yet been charged, and he will be OUT in less than 60 days with no power left to him.
Eyes on the true prize.
Ford pardoned Nixon, who hadn’t been charged.
True.
But I see that as a unique circumstance. Perhaps I’m wrong about that, but not about the rest of what I said.
Which means absolutely nothing as Nixon was framed by the CIA and committed no crime.
Nixon committed crime after crime his entire political career.
wow. you don’t know much about Nixon do you?
You must not have heard the tapes. Now, I think everything Nixon did pales in comparison to what Obama and Biden did, but let’s be honest here. Nixon was no saint.
Nope. He was railroaded by the Deep State and the jumped-up “investigative reporters”
He was also framed by the FBI. Remember, “Deep Throat” was Mark Felt, Associate Director of the FBI. From Felt to Comey to Wray, nothing has changed at the FBI. Hopefully Kash will clean house!
Hopefully Kash and Bondi and the rest of the MAGA crew will slash the DOJ to a mere shadow of its current organization.
The criminals will need more than a cash bond when this is all said and done.
Nixon had not committed any crime, either!
True
No one challenged what Ford did.
What he did was illegal IMHO.
Because Ford came through the Warren Commission, and our government had to take Nixon out. They could not k+ll another president so soon, so they needed to take him out politically, IMHO.
Ford was never elected to VP or POTUS. Total frame job. Ford was in on it. Take Agnew out, install Ford as VP, then take out Nixon.
Oil on fire.
The GOP tried to make Reagan take Ford as VP in ’79, knowing that the ticket would lose. The press made everyone hate Ford for pardoning Nixon.
Reagan refused, so they demanded he take Daddy CIA, George HW Bush.
And in spite of all of them, Reagan WON!!!
However, George HW Bush babysat Reagan during his presidency. Reagan got away with as much as he could. CFR and WEF you know!
Do not forget, the Hincklys were friends of the Bushes. Crazy, huh? Reagan’s attempted assassin.
I also believe George HW was cast aside to install Bill Clinton, a failed Rhode Scholar who had to be whisked away from Oxford because he raped Eileen Wellstone. Yet Bill needed to be installed as President, same as Obama later on. Very similar backgrounds all. Clinton, Obama, Harris.
Apparently a former US State Department officer came to take Bill out of the school to bury that particular story. .
History is something else if you can find it!
I just went to go look online about the details. They have all turned into Snopes. Best of luck. I am certain others on TCH have some wayback info on this. Seems all has been scrapped.
This is one but as always, skeptical:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/659869/posts
This one seems to catalogue the past in a much better understanding:
https://capitolhillblue.com/node/64569
This is my favorite SD story from 2013:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2013/01/10/john-brennan-the-cia-zibgnew-brezinski-columbia-university-and-obama/
Best wishes on the reading!!!!
Hale Boggs. Don’t forget Hale.
Extraordinary story. Poor Ted Stevens out of Alaska. Quite a few others.
Vince Foster.
How many people know about 120 others who died early in their life. Odd, no?
Obama and Clinton for sure, according to Patel they were the ones funding the Russia collusion hoax. Wonder if he’s still skulking around in the tunnels under the WH that leads to his mansion?
didnt Ford pardon Nixon before charges?
Yes
If you want, please read my post above.
Let’s not forget Clapper.
Biden pardoning his son: Talk about more blatant hypocrisy!! Conflict of Interest personified!! The Biden Crime family will burn in Hell!!
When can we send them there?
If he’s using crack he’s already in prison and hell. A hellish prison of sorts. Prison may have done him some good.
You are right. Many addicts attribute their recovery from drugs to their time in jail.
https://twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1862925320657289494
If someone could please let me know why the X post above is not showing I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Dunno. Just tried it myself. 🤷♂️
It works for me as posted. However, for those for whom it is not working, I suggest copy and pasting it into your address window and then deleting the s located behind
http at the beginning of the address, then pressing “Enter.” I can’t guarantee that will work; but, it has worked for me in the past in similar situations.
works for me
I was able to read it when I clicked on it. I love Clay Higgins.
It works for me as posted. However, for those for whom it is not working, I suggest copy and pasting it into your address window and then deleting the s located behind
http at the beginning of the address, then pressing “Enter.” I can’t guarantee that will work; but, it has worked for me in the past in similar situations.
I always include the “www(dot)” when I post them here.
Test:
Yep. I just took your link verbatim, adding www(dot).
https://x.com/RepClayHiggins/status/1862925320657289494
Hunter’s pardon is a non-story.
Exactly! Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knew he’d be pardoned.
The 2020 fraud guaranteed it.
Biden Bump Better
Hunter Biden’s pardon by President Joe Biden raises ethical concerns, political repercussions, and public debate. It’s a significant issue, highlighting potential conflicts of interest and the use of presidential power.
Build Back Stories
Indeed, but there may be mass pardonings on the 20th that will be a riot.
Can a future President override a pardon made by an outgoing President who has been mentally diminished?
No. The constitution does not provide for that.
What if the president was not legitimate?
This was all foreseen. The Biden family grift is over. No one in the world is going to pay them for anything and no one in the democrats party is gonna touch them with a ten foot pole.
Trump’s IRSshould audit the Biden every year.
The IRS can go back as far as they want. 7 years is the norm. Nothing prevents them from going back as far as they want.
They are all just as corrupt as Biden. They don’t want to see HIM go down….because their days will certainly be numbered after that would happen.
They don’t need to.
Apparatchiks fail upwards.
That’s why they put him there.
“Trump took on the entire apparatus—financial, tech, Hollywood, political, legal—92 felonies, 400 years in prison. And he won.”
https://x.com/gc22gc/status/1861979166226460892
Maybe this is why the trip to Angola?
I believe this is why the trip to Angola. The must be something Joe’s handlers can do before he leaves office.
Interesting potential dynamic setting up here.
Dem shills are now calling for Biden to issue blanket pardons for all dem operatives and personages who they think could be targets of future prosecutions.
Criminals, preemptively pardoned by a criminal, to avoid accountability and wholesale destruction of leftist political infrastructure.
The good news?
This was easily foreseen, and everything these cockroaches do winds up backfiring on them.
By the by…
Who says Trump cannot rescind Biden’s pardon of his own son, or anyone else associated with the Biden admin, especially when there is a clear cut case of conflict of interest?
Re “Who says Trump cannot rescind Biden’s pardon of his own son, or anyone else associated with the Biden admin…?”
The Constitution says so by not making any provision for that scenario… Therefore, all presidential pardons are legally irreversible however despicable they are.
Biden rescinded President Trump’s executive privilege retroactively! The Constitution gives a President executive privilege.
If the person is a real president.
Rather than the pardons anyone wants to escape accountability, I think all involved in the political shakedown and the planned destruction of the USA be PUT ON FREEDOM DIET OF FENTENAL.
Collectivists don’t care if it backfires.
Collective accountability rewards failure.
Plausible deniability ensures future success.
“Eat today, starve tomorrow.” – Red Millionaire
Let him pardon them all, then subpoena everyone pardoned to testify to their crimes. Then fire them all.
No governmental official should ever be able to pardon a member of their very own family spouse or child. This is past crazy.
Yet on the other hand I have a feeling it was actually not Biden, but his wife or whomever else has been pulling the strings Whomever fixed up the papers were probably bribed or blackmailed by the lucid/sane Biden family members so that the Bidens that are lucid won’t let all the demonic crimes that have been committed by globalist around the world would not be given to the press.
However, I do believe from what I have seen Hunter is so stupid that he will most likely commit many other crimes. within months of his father’s official leaving of the WH.
Bill Clinton pardoned his half-brother, Roger
And PT pardoned Mr. Kushner.
Interesting/weird pardon!
But not what i was talking about! I was talking about the pardoning of blood! relatives or wife—“No governmental official should ever be able to pardon a member of their very own family spouse or child.“
Probably Trump should’ve stayed away from Charles Kushner,’s mess!
Do find it it weird that that almost immediately after Trump’s first term ended Ivanka started distancing herself and family from Trump! Did the pardon of Ivanka’s father-in-law have anything to do with it? Was Ivanka and her husband for or against the pardon!
Should have been pardoning Hill’s brother.
Replied to wrong person
Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
🎯!
Ultimately, divine justice will judge all actions, good or evil, beyond human decisions and pardons.
Well this pretty much gives trump carte Blanche. I expect to see a ton of pardons.
Favoritism undermines justice, eroding public trust in the legal system.
NO BLANKET PARDON for RAY EPPS!!
Arizona Epps is trying to double-dip.
JUST IN: Ray Epps Lawsuit Against Fox News Thrown Out By Judge
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/just-in-ray-epps-lawsuit-against-fox-news-thrown-out-by-judge/ar-AA1uRQdf
Former Queen Creek resident sentenced in Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot case
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/former-metro-phoenix-man-sentenced-in-jan-6-us-capitol-riot-case-17963772
I expect extraordinary blanket pardons for many people by Biden on the morning of January 20th.
All Biden family, all with anything having to do with harassing President Trump, including Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, you name it…Brennan, Clapper, and all other stooges.
Then, we will see what PT will do about it. Not certain if pardoned, income or anything else cannot be clawed back?
This will be interesting.
Mike Benz has already pointed out that Hunter Biden was one of the CIA’s Uniparty assets in Ukraine. Cofer Black, the adviser to Romney in 2012 was the other.
We can now clearly see why the 51 intel officials signed the letter about the Biden criminal family laptop… They were protecting their own.
The rot within the US national security state runs so deep that it will take eons before it can get partially cleaned up… If ever.
clearly
Tina Peters Appeal Likely to Drop in February 2025
https://truthsocial.com/@KariLake/posts/113524149794212198
So maybe Hunter is saved, but the others then are sacrificed? Badly?
Ha! Talk about a Brutus moment, when the 51 cannot get another job because of Hunter?
Hmmm. Joe will not be able to pay them anymore.
All of the 51 Deep State members will be safe…there is no one who will dare prosecute them
They will get all kinds of job offers in D.C. for these types
The laws are only for the little people
That was pretty 2014. Pardon don’t go back that far or cover Os 1st and most of 2nd term.
I think the pardon powers are pretty sweeping. I remember Marc Rich, convicted tax offender pardoned by Clinton several years after his escape from the US
be a lot faster if we just used the French way of cleaning that mess up. besides the Mall is big enough for a lot of people to watch in real time. get a couple of big screen TVs for the folks in the back to see too.
and the is also the chance that the lesson will not be forgotten so soon afterwards by people.
Does this mean the painting I purchased will up or down in value?
Not sure what to think of this.
HAHAHA…..my little nephew reaches and grabs from what is in his diaper…..and then paints on the walls with his hands and fingers. What he paints WITH is what Hunter’s paintings are worth.
Just sayin’….
You mean the finger-painting H did? They were all worthless to start with!
I’m not an art critic but if you look behind the canvas you may find a Picasso.
Signed Picasso Paintings Are Going For LESS Than Hunter Biden’s Paintings
https://rumble.com/vobexj-signed-picasso-paintings-are-going-for-less-than-hunter-bidens-paintings.html
Was it Hunter’s? Are there any papers in the back of the stretcher?
Can Hunter now be compelled to testify? Since he can’t be prosecuted, would the 5th not apply??
Correct.
With the pardon, you can’t be prosecuted for the covered offenses, so you may need to testify. This could mean sharing important information, but it also ensures your protection from self-incrimination.
Yes, exactly. With the pardon, Hunter Biden can admit to breaking the law without facing penalties for those specific offenses. By testifying, he can also help the legal process by providing valuable information.
H was pardoned from federal crimes. H’s lawyers would argue that H has exposure under state criminal statutes, so they would advise him to take the 5th.
Are the gun laws not also state? Or will that set a precedent for Federal gun laws. Like unfringed?
I suspect Joe will be writing many more pardons in the coming weeks and you can bet none will be for the J’6ers.
https://x.com/amuse/status/1863422760539623496
Exactly – the whole Biden family need to be lining up to ask for a pardon, because they are all accessories to the crime of influence peddling!!
And Trump should silently watch as they all sign the death warrant of the Democrat Party!
Pardons for sale. Joe doesn’t do anything for free.
Jobama should give J6 hostages medals of freedom.
Joe Biden Awards Infamous 2020 Election Workers With Presidential Citizens Medals
https://amgreatness.com/2023/01/06/joe-biden-awards-infamous-2020-election-workers-with-presidential-citizens-medals/
No, but all of Congress and his family.
Oh, + Fani and the mother/daughter team who have defamed Rudy Giuliani.
In 1994, a crime bill authored by @JoeBiden
locked Black men up for years for the same gun charge he just pardoned Hunter Biden for today.
https://x.com/kimKBaltimore/status/1863398908895822256
You are correct.
“Lock them up.” – Black Lives MAGA
MSDNC says Trump only won because Hispanics and blacks are misogynists and Hispanics are racist.
Meanwhile Kamala is still trying to fund raise
DEMS WARN HARRIS: ‘STOP FUNDRAISING’ According to inside sources party bigwigs grew outraged at Kamala’s blatant money grabbing. [Developing}
CARVILLE DEMANDS KAMALA AUDIT Says Harris mishandled millions in campaign funds.
https://nitter.poast.org/iSource_news
Where…..and ahem….WHO….is the Jan 6th pipe-bomber ?!?!?!
The patsy from DOJ!
Probably a clerk working in some government office somewhere who made a little extra money that week.
Hey you, stop asking questions!
The terrorists hate us for our questions.
like I’ve been saying. there are other ways of dealing justice. when the law is corrupt, it won’t come from the law. dont hold up law like it’s some pristine ideal. that’s a flaw in reasoning on our side. when evil men run government, the laws they create are evil. do we follow evil law?
The corruption and intrigue is beyond a Hollywood cloak-and- dagger 🗡️ –edge of your seat 💺– epic.
The people have resoundingly spoken,
“We are mad as hell, and we won’t take it anymore!”
But can old Joe pardon himself???
Yes, he can.
Is anyone really surprised at this?
The Republicans need to impeach Biden on obstruction of justice before he leaves office. Only takes 218 votes in the House. Forget about the Senate trial.
Biden has already impeached himself in the court of public opinion. It’s a waste of time to do this and a distraction from other pressing matters, such as getting the federal budget figured out and investigating in detail the government’s J6 fedsurrection.
Biden had to pardon Hunter. And from what I have heard the Pardon is a blanket pardon for what he was convicted of any everything else. If Hunter had gone to jail he would have been a big pussy and turned RAT on the Biden Crime Family
“For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss.” Really? He can pardon someone for crimes that have not been charged? I dont think so. Could this invalidate the pardon?
Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon before any crimes were charged. The precedent has been set.
I think it possible that all future presidents will be issuing blanket pardons to everyone who served in their administration for federal crimes they may have committed before and during their service in that president’s administration.
Yes, doing this would be an abuse of power by any president who does it. That said, I don’t know how these blanket pardons could be prevented without amending the constitution.
That doesn’t make what Ford did legal or correct.
He should have been challenged on it.
Remember that song, I went to a pardon party?
I went to a pardon party
To reminisce with my old friends.
A chance to sell old memories
And make a buck again.
When I got to the pardon party
They all knew my name.
Everyone recognized me
I didn’t talk the same.
I said here is your chance to avoid the jail.
You gotta pay the big guy or you’ll post bail.
Well its all right now. I’ve duped them all well.
You can’t please everyone but you can please youself.
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I know that Kash and others in Trump’s orbit have been backpedaling in public about pardoning ALL J6 patriots, saying “but not the violent ones”. That’s a fig leaf to ensure they are not attacked by our “loyal opposition” Senators (i.e. that’s all of them, Dem and RINO) for “promising to pardon violent criminals”.
Well, JoeBiden, Inc. just pardoned his son for a “gun related crime”. That ought to give the Trump DOJ the political latitude to do the right thing, for ALL the J6 patriots. If Trump can’t pardon outright those accused/convicted in a shame trial of “violent” offenses, the Trump DOJ can point to the fact that their civil rights were violated during the prosecution by the former Communist Presidential Administration, to enable Trump to at least commute their sentences.
How do we know the “violent ones” weren’t fed related?
We will know how corrupt they Bidens & Dems are by how many pardons are granted by Joe. I would want a pardon less I spill the beans if I were Wray, Smith, Mayorkas, Sullivan, Blinken, Nuland, Monaco etc etc. We will know how corrupt the Dems are by the number of pardons Joe gives. Has any President ever pardoned 2 family members? Himself? Cabinet members? I suggest Sundance starts a pardon watch thread. BTW apparently if you r pardoned u can’t plead the 5th. So bring them back under oath and ask questions. Either they lie & they can be charged unaffected by a pardon, or they can tell the truth & reveal how corrupt the Dems are.
Let’s not feign surprise that this happened. We knew all along it was going to happen.
The big question is now that he is pardoned, can’t he be compelled to testify in any of the cases against people who were coconspirators of the crimes committed? Like, Joe’s brother, Jill, Joe’s daughter and many others?
If he lies, those who be new, prosecutable crimes. This could be interesting.
Let’s see. 01 January 2014. Rings a bell. Oh yeah. 2014 is when the Obama Regime overthrew the duly elected pro Russian President of Ukraine. And Metobiata began operating its contract biolabs in Ukraine.
If this does not motivate PDJT to issue a blanket pardon to every J6 hostage, and I mean every single one, then I will be seriously considering no longer self identifying as a MAGA supporter. Not that it would matter, but I don’t think I’ll be alone.
Well, Joe may have opened the door on the 4437. If it’s ok for the POTUS kid to lie on the 4437, and the illegally obtain a gun based on that lie (both felonies) then it must be ok for anyone else to do the same.
https://revolver.news/2024/06/trump-calls-out-ray-epps-scaffold-commander-fedsurrection-lie-in-barnburner-speech/
The Bidens and all the other criminals in Washington DC can be subjected to massive civil lawsuits under federal law. There is no “pardon” to prevent that.
No matter who is pardoned, everything of value they own can be taken away in civil court proceedings. Not paying federal taxes on ill-gotten gains can easily result in forfeiture of massive amounts of money. Let’s see what the IRS can do to those who have abused its great power against others.
For these scoundrels, having every penny they extorted or have stolen TAKEN AWAY will be a wonderful dose of justice.
If you can’t put DC scoundrels in prison, put them out on the street as homeless derelicts. Life sleeping in a Maytag box would be a just outcome. Broke and powerless is what they have imposed upon others. It is a fitting repayment to them.
as promises made rules go (Joe malarkey is certainly the exception), I am pretty sure I am reading this one very clear:
President Trump is making is very clear he has every intention of pardoning J6 protestors.
we will hold him to his no so veiled words…because this is not the time or the place to be mocking Joe malarkey for his foolish lies. We have to be BIGGER BETTER STRONGER AND RIGHT.
do the right thing President Trump. Pardon these people. ALL OF THEM
and then after that, immediately begin and investigation and indict the capitol police officer WHO MURDERED ASHLI BABBIT. the ONLY person who I was killed (MURDERED) on that day.
this is about KEEPING YOUR WORD.
we KNOW Joe malarkey is incapable of keeping his word..he has never kept his word. he is a navel gazing ambulatory pathological liar and cheat and conman…
we return to normalcy when RIGHT completely eclipses every single thing this clown has done to this country. and the handlers who drive him…we must never forget who they are and what kind of justice they must face for their contributions to this insanity they have created and profited from.
God Bless America
also noting: Biden the stupid has made a galactic sized mistake..again
by declaring bookend dates to his clemency order, he has whether intentional or not, opened up the potential that hunter (AND OTHERS) can actually be prosecuted for crimes beyond those periods.
challenge accepted.
God Bless America
-Even moreso, by specifying those dates (particularly significantly, the start date) and making the pardon as broad and seepingly comprehensive as he has, he has unwittingly telegraphed that *serious* perpery was in fact comitted *within* that timeframe (again, particularly with respect to the start date (- Ukraine, anyone?)). The entire pardon is akin to Frank Drebin in The Naked Gun standing in front of the exploding fireworks factory, yelling “NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!”.
The truth of those crimes may still be gotten at and prosecuted within a criminal courtroom by other means, at least with respect to the co-conspiritors, as others up-thread have already noted, especially if Hunter is compelled to testify without cover of ‘taking the fif”.
-Oops!: “…broad and *sweepingly* comprehensive…” – Although I do imagine Hunter ‘seeps’ quite a bit as well, what with *that* lifestyle, an’ all… 😉
Rosanne Boyland was also murdered on J6, trampled on and beaten with a stick. The perpetrator got a medal and a walk on appearance at a football game.
my sincere apologies…I stand corrected. I meant no dishonor to her life taken at the hands of jackboots. I get emotional sometimes when I write. Today was one of those days.
God Bless America
All of the devices owned and all communications of the capitol police captain who shot her have been collected. I believe his day is coming.
We knew this would happen as soon as Biden dropped out of the race
Hunter is SCUM hiding out at the white house with old JOE
Investigate the BIDEN CRIME FAMILY
I thought it odd that Biden came home from Nantucket and left within hours for Uganda.
Pray for all of them, We must pray for our enemies, inside this country or outside this country.
This will only make the J6er’s pardon all the sweeter!!
Think about this, this way. Joe pardoned Hunter, and no one else.
It’s a target rich environment for Kash.
Still plenty of time left to do it.
The names on that target rich environment are already on the prepared pardons Obiden will sign on his last day(s) in office……Mayorkis, Austin, Nuland, etc.
It’s amusing that, in the private sector, someone with Joe’s cognitive capacity would not be allowed to make any legal decisions at all.
Bingo,not fit to run again but fit to run out the term. I can’t believe the public bought that one.
I’m surprised that everyone is surprised.
Does this include back taxes too?
The DJT post on Truth Social is an UNDERSTATEMENT! I’ve never seen anything like this by any US President. The pardon is a huge clue as to what not only Hunter but the Bidens have been up to. Use of the office of the president of the United States to perpetrate criminal activity is fraud, anything done by fraud is void ab initio (as if it never happened), (see Rule 60, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure). What better justice than to void an entire presidency, and if a presidency is voided because of fraud, everything done during it is voided, including pardons. Think also, the billions of dollars to Ukraine, where Hunter had his hands in multiple labs and more, and who is holding those billions for the Bidens’ benefit. Ongoing criminal activity, no statute of limitations problem, that encompasses Obama, Harris, Hillary, the net is huge, RICO!
Does this pardon mean Hunter can be brought up to Congress or the Legal System and testify about the Crime Family and not fall back on pleading the 5th.
Free all those j6 people also,
I am happy about this. I really thought there were powerful underlings that would protect Hunter down the road, quietly. This shouts out loud and very clearly who Joe Biden (et al.) really is (are). There is no possible defense of this: a broken promise (again), and a perfect example of nepotism at the highest level. This was all negotiated when Jill and Hunter agreed to let “pops” drop out of the race. Defend this all you leftists!
A fake President who was too demented to be charged with massive documents theft can turn around and pardon his son. How stupid do they think we are?!
So does this mean he is no longer a felon and can go buy another gun?
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For some reason, I can’t get too spun up about this. Hunter Biden, a private person who was neither an elected official nor government employee, was a tool of Joe Biden and also the fault of Barack Obama. How about the Pelosi family? The Clintons. John Kerry, et al. All the covidian employees in NIH and CDC now making millions from Big Pharma. The corrupt prosecutors, both federal and state. There are so many who seem worse to me.
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He was never a “private person” the moment he became entangled with massively consequential global government corruption. He wasn’t a plumber. He wasn’t a professional ANYTHING. No skills and as far as I understand it, never applied any law training in any professional capacity. Groomed for this role by all appearances.
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“Private person” in the sense that I was using the phrase means that he was not someone who was elected to office and then violated his oath, and he was not someone who was employed by the taxpayer.
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He was not private in the sense that he was allegedly a conduit to accept bribes from foreign states on behalf of elected representatives in the highest positions.
Other than possibly committing treason on behalf of the president, he was just another ordinary Joe.
“Report on the Biden Laptop
There are, at the very least, 459 documented violations of state & federal laws & regulations on the infamous device.”
https://www.marcopolo501c3.org/p/report-on-the-biden-laptop
He took an oath to become a practicing lawyer, the alleged skills he was being hired for. The oath is to faithfully follow the laws and the Constitution of the U.S. and the same for any state he chose to practice in. He broke it, BIGLY. Laws mean nothing to him and his family.
Report on The Biden Laptop
By Garrett Zeigler and Team at Marco Polo
https://bidenreport.com/#p=1
He is not pardoned for State crimes. Whatever State crimes needs to be investigated and action taken. With a pardon he can not plead the 5th if testifying about other federal crimes against others. We need followup…bill
And there never was a time that a Biden ever attempted to tell the full truth about anything.
“.... he was not someone who was employed by the taxpayer.”
Well, not directly, knowingly or willingly, I’ll grant you that much.
Yet we taxpayers wound up paying dearly for all the havoc, corruption and criminality his involvement aided & abetted.
He wasn’t a child when he went to Ukraine under the Burisma shield or to the CCP. And he didn’t operate independent of significant Pay For Play/ Quid Pro Quo for his father. That’s aiding & abetting.
He’s the tip of an enormous iceberg of government corruption, malfeasance and criminality.
And literally everyone who reads current news knows it.
With everything I have read past few years I wonder Hunter was molested by his father and would not that would mess up most anyone. Do I excuse Hunter’s behavior? Certainly not. However I think he in a private hell of his father’s making. I have seen this behavior in foster children. Nuff said.
Bankrupt the whole fam damnly! I love the smell of Karma in the morning!
I mentioned this before it’s all about ‘rule of law’, justice.
This is exactly how Jesus was crucified and Barabbas was set free.
People have lost all sight of right and wrong. “We win” is the substitute, it’s all that matters.
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Hunter was just the beginning. I expect there will be a massive number of blanket pardons. Obama? Hillary?
Been thinking about how stupid they think we are for a while now, especially since I live in a hard core socialist area of the U.S.
Look at an election map, one that shows dem voters in one color and rep voters in another color, and you won’t miss the massive socialist area of Minnesota called the arrowhead — the area of land that juts out over Lake Superior. The arrowhead is blue; but what else would become of the area where Gus Hall was born and raised along with all his other socialist/communist siblings?
Since I live in a communist country locked within the U.S., I believe they know we are very smart, but here they just laugh and high-five one another knowing they are in control of every paper — even the small fish rags — every radio and tv station, and most businesses, and they’ll do whatever they want with whatever they want.
Our small town mayor was well loved by everyone. Then he endorsed President Trump for the 2020 election. From that moment on there was a major smear campaign against him, his wife and his children. Everyone who had something negative to say about any of them had free reign to say so in the local rag paper, and everyone who had something to say in his defense was told the information they gave had to be “verified” before it could be printed. The papers constantly blocked all positive information sent, and verified the information into oblivion.
The mayor was kicked out in a special election, and an outsider who’d been living here for less than 2 years was elected mayor. Of course he had good socialist standing. . .
So they know we are smart, but they know, too, that they own almost every way there is to get information to the masses.
Almost.
A week before the special election to kick the mayor out I got so angry about what the papers were doing that decided to print my own “paper” and walk door-to-door and deliver it. Others volunteered to help with that job, and we were able to get the truth to everyone’s front door.
Funny thing in a small socialist town. . . the first socialist that got that flyer sent a message out on some socialist neighborhood social media account, and by the time we’d gone two blocks other socialists started coming to their front doors yelling at us, ‘Don’t leave that ______ at my house!’ They literally started yelling, loudly, and refused to read anything that gave a differing point of view.
My guess is Hunter is an innocent angel to the people of my small town, and he’ll be free to do whatever he wants to do with whomever he wants to do it.
Perversion and blindness are their specialty.
The J6ers are the ones suffering in the dc gulag. Old hunter will never pay for the wrongs he has done, at least in this life. Most of the J6ers have done nothing wrong or broken no laws. This is the travesty of a corrupt dept. of injustice.
Absolutely.
All they needed was his signature on a piece of paper. By now Jill should be able to do this in the dark. /snark/
There’s a reason people, in general, seem OK with it. EVERYONE, at some level, understands the government is normally operated by “expert bureaucracy.” A fair number of those understand that it’s not constitutional but already feel resigned to a reality where it doesn’t matter… “it’s gone and it’s never coming back.”
Personally, I’ve never felt that way… and when I go near the notion, I become nauseous.
What do I have that most other people do not? Still wondering about that question.
I keep hearing on TV how ‘most fathers would pardon their son, if they had this power’. I don’t think that’s true. I think most good men would have long ago resigned their position if their son had gotten into trouble that reflects on the father himself. (i.e. that Hunter was doing Joe’s bidding and both father & son benefitted financially). I call BS on these apologists, who conclude they are only upset that Biden lied about planning to do the pardon (but not mad about the pardon iteself).
As well as cocaine!
So, I apologize for not knowing, but can a President pardon a family member so easily? That just seems sooo unethical.
Bannon said he should pardon Hunter since he could never last in prison. Had he not allowed all the J6 people to rot in horrible conditions many without even having due process, no one would be as upset as we are. And then to claim his son was targeted and would never have been charged if he wasn’t his son, is so damn insulting. He was more than willing to toss Trump in jail for the rest of his life for a misdemeanor.
FJB says Hunter committed the tax crimes while addicted to drugs, another lie.
“Ziegler alleges that Hunter admitted in his book that he filed “false tax returns when he was newly sober.”
So even in the wording of the pardon, what Joe Biden is trying to sell us is malarkey, after lying that he wouldn’t pardon his son.”
By that thinking, if I ever kill someone while DWI-ing, I’ll be excused, just like Hunter. Cause it really wasn’t my fault, it was the 10 beers I drank. Isn’t that right, Joe?
Hey don’t walk away, Joe; I asked you a ques- .. Where are wandering off to, Joe?
Yeah but how about that scumbag who held you down and forced those 10 beers into you?
The same one who held down Hunter and forced cocaine up his nose and force-injected whatever else into his veins…… yeah, that guy.