President Trump has proposed that homes in critical areas be granted tax credits for the installation of emergency generators. It is a smart plan given the nature of crisis events that have unfolded in recent years.
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Factually, it would not be difficult to repurpose much of the “Green New Deal” spending legislation to permit such a credit. There are millions of Americans who could benefit. Sounds good in both principle and practice.
Made in America generators! Watch how fast the private sector industries would start scrambling to make USA built generators.
I have a compact Yamaha 3.o gasoline generator that costed about $1,200 and it ran the refrigerator for two weeks without a problem until the power was restored. It was able to keep the refrigerator ice cold with limited gasoline because the refrigerator only needed to run a few hours each day. The secret is to keep the door closed and only get what’s needed quickly. Now that I’m no longer in Florida my home has natural gas for heating, hot water, dryer and Weber grill. I bought a natural gas conversion kit so the Yamaha will run off the natural gas hook up.
Smart!
I did that with my off-grid cabin. There’s an appliance timer extension cord, and it run the fridge for 4 hours on, then 4 hours off. I rarely opened it during off times. Worked quite well to keep things cold/frozen & electrical usage down.
I’d like to know how to do that. A whole house generator will cost $12,000. I’m getting too old to haul gas and crank up the portable. It can be ten gallons of gas a day to run that thing. Not cheap.
Dang! I hope he will make that retroactive to 2024 tax year. We just got ours installed this past spring. The feeder line coming in off of the main transmission line that serves our house was so unreliable we had to bite the bullet and get one installed.
Yes. Retroactive From September 1, 2024 to August 31,2025
In areas that experience extremes in temperatures such as very hot summers and very cold winters, generators can be a life saver for households with residents susceptible to those temperatures. There was a summer time power outage in Houston several years ago where parents with a downstairs master bedroom didn’t realize how hot the baby’s room had become and the baby died. The very young and the very old are more fragile during power outages.
I recall reading that an unusually hot summer in England one year resulted in an alarming increase in elderly deaths due to lack of air conditioning in homes, as well as here in the U.S. when the elderly are faced with less income due to inflation , higher food prices and greater expense for cooling or heating and have to severely limit where they set their thermostats.
Affordable energy and access to dependable heating and cooling can be life and death issues. The Leftist elites don’t care since they aren’t faced with anything which disrupts their lifestyles, much less their safety.
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Trump Vows to End Double Taxation for Overseas Americans
He’s got Kommie-La on the run!
I read recently that the DementoRats were chasing ballots from dual citizens throughout the world because, as with Hispanic people, they thought they owned those voters.
PDJT is smart to offer this incentive – not that it isn’t likely a good many of these voters were disaffected from the Blob already – it could easily be the reason they chose to live elsewhere!
I’m associated with a group of US expats who are “accidental Americans” who have been working for years, along with Solomon Yue, to convert the US to residency-based instead of citizenship-based taxation.
I’m gonna tell him right now!
I wonder if this is a flanking movement for the foreign ballots dims hope to harvest?
I wish he would end the tax on mailing packages overseas. We have to pay a tax to be allowed to mail items to foreign countries and they get to keep the money.
Tax credit or tax deduction ???
Trump’s message said tax deduction.
Honda makes a great generator assembled in Swepsonville, North Carolina. I have one due to the rural area in the PNW where I live. Trump has some pretty good ideas.
Honda gennys are the bomb! Pricey, but reliable, long-lasting. Love them.
Made in America generator. They would have to tool up as SD says.
American made SMALL KW generators are pretty much non existent at this point. The replacement stuff for the generators is garbage at best. What happened early on is that the Chinese copied the Honda engines and parts for a lot of generators below about 7 KW. The replacement and installed parts…Fuel shut off valves, gas tanks, wheels, voltage regulators, alternators, circuit breakers, voltage meters, etc. are garbage. You pretty much have to buy and store backup of all the parts because they are going to give you trouble when you least want it.
I brought two 5 KWs up to speed for Milton and fortunately our power never went out. They sit in the garage to be used after the off grid solar runs out of battery, which it will (notice those clouds around hurricane time–that’s right, no solar). But, the generators usually give you trouble when they are put to work. The voltage waveforms from small gas or propane generators are also dirty as hell, as compared to the solar pure sine wave DC/AC inverters.
The whole house generators are a different story. Generacs have been around a long time and are more reliable. But they use fossil fuels which will trigger the crap out of the greenies. You either have to use regular fuel from a tank (the fuel is not stable long term even with stabilizer; unless diesel) or have a huge propane tank installed which may not be permitted in your AO. Propane has less BTU capability then regular fuel and thus you use more of it.
It’s a great incentive, but, in all honesty it won’t get through our lousy lice infested congress.
A National Divorce would be much better for most of us in hurricane zones.
Hmm. So you’re saying Generac doesn’t make a whole house generator that connects to the house natural gas?
I am saving a link to this thread for the day I can afford to take the step..
That of course means many thanks yet again to sundance who saves the history of his articles…
Generacs ARE powered by home natural gas supply, almost exclusively in areas with NG.
piping to the generator from the meter is separate from existing lines.
you may also need to update (increase) your gas meter to accommodate.
I updated my meter for a natural gas pool heater, so I am good to go on that.
My problem is, the gas is on one side of the house and the distribution panel on the other side of the house.
So I’m looking at tricky AND expensive.
had exactly the same logistics.
reduced the run by installing the pipes inside the basement from the meter
(they ran them adjacent to the home supply lines), then out to the generator.
took a lot of linear footage off the bill!
then panel was mounted right there where line exited the house.
did have to bury about 4 feet of pipe to span the distance between house and generator.
that’s why i didn’t quote a $ figure on my previous comment,
because everybody’s situation is a little different.😊
but, like the installers always say, “you can do anything – for a price”. 🥴😂
hope it works out for you!
We have a Generac that is powered by an underground propane tank. There is no natural gas available where we live.
yup, was initially replying to a poster who thought a Generac couldn’t run in NG, which they can.
you might want to mention that to the east coast poster above, as they do not have NG out there.
unless that’s where YOU are, in which case you alrady know that!😁😂
I’m in the midwest. Our Generac has been very reliable and we have frequent outages for short periods. We did have to replace the board (brain) once after five years and that was expensive, about $1,000. Other than that, golden! It comes on at exactly noon every Wednesday for a few minutes. That’s it.
I have been filling all my outdoor equipment with ethanol free gasoline. It costs a bit more but stores much better. I have had power equipment stored for 6 months with the E Free,
AKA the old gasoline. And have had no issues starting or running a complete cycle.
And then you have to correct for altitude vs. KW hours. But diesel is best … Fuel keeps forever, burns pretty clean, but gennys are more expensive. Fuel isn’t combustible, either.
This needs to be implemented for all Americans in every state. Disaster situations can occur everywhere.
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I live in eastern PA and although we infrequently have any outages in our neighborhood, and those that we do have the powered is restored quickly, but hurricane Sandy resulted in a three or four day outage.
While a small 2,000 watt generator kept the fridge, water heater (gas fired with electric blower), a toaster oven, and some lights running by alternating their run-times, I would consider getting a whole-house back-up generator with the credit.
Be sure to get a transfer switch installed if it’s gonna run your whole house on it. That shuts off the electrical from the pole to the house, & prevents power from the genny backfeeding to the pole, where it can electrocute a lineman up the pole trying to restore service.
And no matter how you might be tempted, do NOT plug an extension cord from the running genny into your house system! Yes, it will run your genny power through the lines in your house to various rooms, but the backfeed is dangerous to you AND any linemen working on the poles.
Everyone should have a generator. And frankly, considering how long power might be out, as well as the shelf life currently of E10 gas, having a dual fuel generator that will also run on propane, is a pretty good idea.
My hope here in Spokane is to install a system straight off the Natural Gas line, with back up propane tanks.
Yeah, it would require swapping some bits in the carb to use the other source, but worth it.
I’m sure an enterprising generator engineer can design a system that can switch from one fuel to the other seamlessly, simply have dual metering devices in the carb, with a manual or automatic switch if fuel isn’t available on the primary source.
Backups should always have redundancies.
There are actually triple fuel generators, that will run on gasoline, natural gas, or propane. 😉
I really like the way his campaign is thinking.
Taking initiative on issues that matter to real people, meeting with traditionally non-Republican constituencies, shouting out truths.
I can feel his momentum just as I can feel the dems’desperation.
You don’t think not growing up ‘in a middle class family’ is a deterrent for voting for him?
The Northeast is forgotten in this conversation. Winters in Northern New England can leave folks without power and heat for days and weeks as well. With propane bottles a gas genny and a wood stove, along with a dug well you can go off grid for quite a spell.
Michigan as well, because Whitchmer plans on banning all oil and gas by 2040, so the electrical grid is going to hell. Of course everyone will move away by then because we can’t live without power, and wind and solar doesn’t work in the deadly seven months of winter, nor will it run factories and businesses.
That Trump post does not say “made in America”.
Gennies are great. If there is fuel to support the gennies, evacuees, and day to day needs. More generators means more fuel. We are on the brink of a problem here in my corner of Florida.
No gas. No one knows when any is coming and as soon as one station gets it swarms of vehicles come out of the woodwork.
I have been to 3 Publix in the last week and the meat sections are almost bare.
I took delivery of a Kohler generator with Transfer Switch this morning. My nephew-in-law is an electrician in south GA that specializes in BU gensets. He has sold over 120 generators since the first storm.
As long as the generators aren’t EV. LOL!
Not fun, not fun. It is always sad to see the aftermath. Looks pretty bad to me, but I am not an expert on hurricanes.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-florida-digs-out-and-recovers-after-hurricane-milton-173426131.html
It’s a great idea and I’d love to see it extended, if possible, towards other self-sufficiency home improvements and projects. For example, the start-up cost of gardening (lumber, fencing) is prohibitive. Encouraging people to grow their own fruit and vegetables would be an important step towards investing in food security, self-sufficiency, and health.
This country needs something along the lines of a Micro-Homestead Act.
Over 5 million Americans don’t pay income tax. What good do all these tax credits do them? There needs to be a better way.
Trumps platform just keeps getting better and better. Any working class American citizen would have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to vote against this man. Everything he does is in support of the working class.
Trump is looking for ways to jump start the economy – here’s one. Raise the tax exemption for the same of a home to $1,500,000. This allows seniors to sell their homes, downsize and have more assets for reitement. It also frees up houses sooner. We don’t have to wait for seniors to die. Win win
These deals only help those who itemize their taxes.
I’ve been using a portable when needed but I’m getting older. We live in a semi rural area that is at the end of the line of the utility we get our service from. Lines are above ground and running through trees to get back to my place in central Indiana. Since we moved into this place 2001 we have lost power frequently. The longest was for three days due to an ice storm. But every year we lose it more than we should. Five times last year and seven times this year.
Most outages are less than 10 hours. But this year we had one of 36 hours and that was the straw that broke this camels back. I had been looking and I bought a 26kW Guardian. It is now in place and ready for my cousin to get out here and hook it up.
Cost 6,450.00 with transfer switch + about $2,500 to hook it up. It will run everything just like normal including my well pump, electric water heater, electric stove. My HVAC us natural gas but I have a separate electric mini split for the sunroom and it’ll runt that two like normal. Two fridges and deep freeze. Central A/C.
Some things those thinking about do something like that should know.
Here in Michigan the power goes out frequently as well. We had four days in February ‘23. I sure got sick of hauling and smelling like gas. At least I usually heat mostly by firewood, so I don’t get cold if I shut it off, which I do at night.
I have a fireplace insert and plenty of cured wood cut. But the insert has a fan and so requires electricity to be reasonably efficient.
The power goes out in SE Michigan about four times a year for days at a time after storms. Aging, rotten oak branches are usually the culprits. I’m getting too old to keep hauling gas and cranking that thing. I could use a nice whole house. Why not include it nationwide?
Here’s an idea worth exploring. We bought a whole home battery backup system that outputs 7.2 KW at 240 volts and has 6 KWH storage capacity.
It ran our house while power was off after Milton. We have a small propane powered generator that only runs long enough to recharge the batteries,
so no fuel is wasted. If we don’t run the air conditioner, and keep the water heater off, it lasts about 12 hours between charges.
Two domestic companies that make generaters- general and Kohler. Both headquarters in wisconsin. Hope he hypes this up here in wisco
The problem is with American made generators is once again a government problem. The EPA regulations have decimated our small engines with regulation and they just don’t exist. Welcome to the small engine lineup, Kubota, Isuzu, Perkins, Iveco, and Kohler. Kohler is based here but the engines are not made here in that size. Regulations kill progress!