Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for the assembly of a strategic campaign influence network, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph would be familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph also explains the right-side version of the exact same storyline, James David Vance. It’s a mirror.
On one side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their wing of the UniParty audience. However, both are following the same playbook.
It started with a conversation several weeks ago. Who is JD Vance and where did he come from?
How does a person without any baseline in politics, not a council member, not a mayor, not a state rep – or state senate, governor etc., become a U.S. Senator and then quickly get into the White House?
What I was told sounded eerily familiar.
JD Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013) and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when JD Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020). However, the interesting background on JD Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel.
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
JD Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline we can see how JD Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand JD Vance as an Ohio senator, the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies) from 2013 to now, becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company Palantir Tech is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI). Palantir has massive contract interests in US military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance. The actual technology needed by the Deep State to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, JD Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology? This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio senate race between JD Vance and Tim Ryan. It was Peter Thiel who took JD Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Thiel there is no Senator JD Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018; prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement; JD Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
JD Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership, a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the endorsement and the outcome of the 2022 Ohio senate race.
Within the Thiel network you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Musk and Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and JD Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
JD Vance even named one of his three children Vivek; suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how one billionaire, Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state creates the process to construct a political tool useful for the retention of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
Unfortunately, this approach also diminishes the Trump policy objective intended to eliminate the IC deep state.
As an outcome of a control network in 2006 Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of a control network in 2022 Senator JD Vance was successfully installed. Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical.
We have exhaustively outlined the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as factual. Additionally, we have outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once you understand how both wings of the UniParty operate you can then see how the system of silo creation, retention and protection works.
The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to retain it.
Like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ ALL IS NOT LOST – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken them and/or make them more vulnerable, you put them into a position where they cannot strategize the future because they cannot confirm a data point in their pathway.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee actually gives his opposition power. Essentially makes Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They are then forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing now. That opposition cannot look forward (proactive), they are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump can give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next four years, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad, must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network and the potential problem JD Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we must support that tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors and the aligned Vance influence network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to that 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale. James Donald Bowman, aka JD Vance’s background construct as lived or as sold is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to JD Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We accept that this approach is going to make Peter Thiel, JD Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
Tough!
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I heard our President Trump, tell the werewolf JD, to “get ready, it’s going to be an incredible ride”… or something close to that.
Really glad to see that and I saw the werewolf’s acknowledgement
Apologies if this has been previously posted. Hard to keep up and also sleep occasionally. I remain optimistic for the short term. First objective is to win the election. Interesting article, short and concise, detailing intellectual forces behind Vance.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/18/jd-vance-world-view-sources-00168984
All of this is precisely why I opposed Ramaswamy…
Exactly. Same backer and background.
Now we are supposed to accept Vance?
I don’t. He needs to go asap. He keeps Trump vulnerable to impeachment and further harm to make Vance president.
Sundance this is why we’re hear for the Truth. As bad as it is Ill take truth over the liar.
absolutely …
The age old adage “knowledge is power” is ALWAYS true and, as is usual, we thank you for that, Sundance!!!!!
I have not read all the comments but, someone mentioned earlier that perhaps Vance is an insurance policy for Trump to actually win the election. The theory being that the Oligarchy will have their person, their guy, positioned in this administration and beyond and will not oppose it. Trump is using this.
This will make sense if we see dullard like Kamala as the Left’s candidate or Biden manages to soldier on, or the election cheating is minimized. Either way they will have both sides covered. TPTB would count it as a win either way the election goes.
The idea is that PT knows this and selected Vance to get the bad guys off his back and get elected. He will ignore or direct Vance to waste his time on irrelevant ‘priorities’ once elected.
I have to have some hope.
you get it.
He doesnt need a VP to certify this time
too many money men behind Vance ………. for whatever reason. HOW pray tell me does a hillbilly that nobody has ever heard of go from a junior senator to the veep nominee ………………without SOMEONE wanting a pay back.
This may be true, but picking a deep state actor didn’t work out too well last time.
In fact, Trump has a history of bad “picks” (Pence, Jeff Sessions, Milley, Maddis, Kelly, etc. etc. etc.);
He also has a few great picks (Michael Flynn, Ben Carson).
BUT it was supposed to be different this time. Trump was supposed to be a seasoned pro and would not select any bad actors. He already has and I was very disappointed in his selection of Vance. I would have been happy with Flynn, Carson, or Lake. No such luck.
So is this a strategy to get elected? – With a deep state nearly taking his life a few days ago – and picking a deep state approved guy to stay alive and get elected in the process?
I don’t like it. He would have won with Flynn, Carson or lake. After the botched assassination attempt he could have picked almost anyone and won. Trump is no safer now that he picked Vance. Their guy is now in position. Trump is the one who can’t get out of line – they already tried to kill him once. At some point they’d succeed.
Now we have to deal with a Vance who will perpetuate the surveillance state and march us right into globalism.
Without the death of course, this is the reference to Nessun Dorma. Has anyone ever witnessed or even wondered why President Trump and the Entire family stayed on that stage till the end? This is not a new family dynasty, it’s letting the conspirators on both sides know that he (Trump) knows who they are and sees them crystal clear.
He has had 4 years to develop his game plan for this go around. You do not let a geenius have this much time to plan out his attack. Which is why they went after him 24/7
:0) Fight, Fight, Fight!!! Sounds like a genius plan and I’m all in…
He’s had 4 years to develop his game plan and I pray that we can get him into the White House to bring power to his plan.
It was over before it began
NCSWIC is the main comment posted in the replies section of this YouTube video.
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Hmmmmmm
From a post on the above link – Trump sending DS a message:
What are the English lyrics for ‘Nessun Dorma’?
None shall sleep,
None shall sleep!
Even you, oh Princess,
In your cold room,
Watch the stars,
That tremble with love
And with hope.
But my secret is hidden within me,
My name no one shall know,
No… no…
On your mouth, I will tell it,
When the light shines.
And my kiss will dissolve
the silence that makes you mine!
(No one will know his name
and we must, alas, die.)
Vanish, o night!
Set, stars! Set, stars!
At dawn,
I will win!
I will win!
I will win!
There are a couple of posters here showing that the mega ballot fraud of 2020 is obviously alive and well and is the next step to stop Trump if all other attempts at lawfare and assassination fail.
Hope Trump understands that the Deep State will continue to try and murder him.. no doubt that.. in parallel the Mail ballot fraud where in every illegal is registered to vote will continue in parallel
This is exactly why FJB is refusing to go… He knows that he will win with the greatest vote fraud operation
Can’t stop President Trump if he is acting like he is going to let them undermind him.
The tech guys can work wonders.
Get in the Whitehouse, the reverse
I figured threat of life, election fraud at the POTUS and, IMO more importantly down-ticket races in Congress to backstop a PDJT victory if the other methods fail, hog-tying him for four years. For POTUS to get anything constructive done, a cooperative Congress is imperative. That starts day one with the Senate approving nominations. I trust folks here remember how it went in 2016. That was a pleasant sunny afternoon.
JD, James, David, Donald…I hope he finds out who he is sooner than later.
Vance knows who, and what, he is. He’s the protagonist in “Hillbilly Elegy.” But now he’s a YALE man, that well-known recruiting ground of the CIA. That’s where Obama got his power. Obama’s mother laundered money for the CIA. We’ve had mostly CIA Presidents since Bill Clinton, who was bounced from Oxford, wound up at the US Embassy and informed that his student deferment was history. The long-time deal to miscreants of a young age was offered: “Army, Navy, or Reform School,” only it was “CIA work in Eastern Europe or VIETNAM.”
I believe he got snatched up by military intelligence long before he attended Yale
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Once a marine ALWAYS a marine
“Enjoy. the show.”
“Trust the Plan.”
Thankfully, JD isn’t a black hating race baiter, he’s served our country VS OBama, who fought our country from within, JD has worked in private industry where Obama barely did, Obama attended the exclusive school in Hawaii, where JD probably ate worms for sustenance growing up……and I actually think JD’s wife gave birth to their 3 kids.
I’m not going to begrudge anybody for getting some help going to college. Obama went straight to the presidential post, where JD is slotted for VP and he’s FULLY acknowledged that his role IS TO SUPPORT president Trump with his agenda. JD will be the supreme MAGA, there is no doubt.
Round two of Trump will be tenacious and there’s should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that Trump had JD vetted from head to toe. I’m like Tucker. I feel good, and God is among us.
forgive me, but it seems you did not take the time to read the excellent SD article you’re commenting on
jd is is not what he presents, he is pence 2.0
or possibly worse
DJT will undoubtedly keep jd’s leash short, he’s too intelligent to make the same mistake twice
but is he really? Brilliant builder but so many political mistakes.
Time will tell. I pray he succeeds but when you start your next term off with the wrong person at your side what does that tell ya.
If the IC wants Trump gone, if by the Grace of God he does win, they IC can have him whacked by a real professional. Do you really think he’ll serve a full 4 years while they have Vance has his back up guy.
I’m sorry I’m bummed. Maybe I should get off the forum for a while.
tumultuous times naturally breed anxiety in us all, wv
you have lots and lots of company
and if, God forbid, DJT is harmed while in office, rhe issue of who acends to the presidency will likely be moot in the ensuing chaos
He is worse.
Not a J.D. Pence, he is a J.D. Obama.
Oh I read the article, buddy……and I’m just sorry AF that Jesus Christ wasn’t around for Trump to pick as a running mate. Vance will be superb. We need to ride this horse to victory. Maybe Repubs always get victory snatched away/ or don’t know what to do with it because of people like you.
JDs prolly a white hat
Most of them are superbly disguised, just like his professional camouflage
Read the article from Sundance. Absorb, research, and although sometimes you will still get angry, you will know the truth, and truth is better than rose tinted lenses.
No doubts about JD?
Based on what, his earlier anti-Trump statements or his overnight change with a new book??
Widespread “IT Outages” Reported Across the Globe
Investment Firm That Allegedly “Put Options” on 12 Million Trump Stocks Day Before Assassination Attempt Blames Filing Error — Rothschild, BlackRock, Vanguard, Meta, George Bush, and Cheney Family Among Top Investors
These seem to be relevent to this article and VERY disturbing. Past my paygrade to analize but seems scary…..
CROWDSTRIKE is involved. Remember them?
Who could possibly forget Cloudstrike?
CrowdStrike, Ukraine, and the DNC server: Timeline and facts | CSO Online
https://www.csoonline.com/article/568121/crowdstrike-ukraine-and-the-dnc-server-timeline-and-facts.html
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NCSWIC
Who is J.D. Vance?
Business ties to technocrats involved in mRNA technology, government surveillance and even the shadowy Bilderbergs should lead Trump supporters to question this pick
https://substack.com/home/post/p-146725827
I don’t read Politico. But I did search JD and found one they wrote. I didn’t keep link but it’s informative. Title is something like 50 things to know about JD Vance.
I plan to watch Vance with a side eye. Pence made me skeptical.
Perhaps it was this …
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/15/jd-vance-55-things-trump-vp-00167882
Wayne, thanks for that depressing article. This means Trump is either very aware of all of Vance’s background or has no idea about certain aspects to it. Both options are very concerning. If Trump has no idea about Vance’s background then the obvious mole that brought Vance into his inner circle is Don Jr. We need to keep praying.
Don Jr. would not go against his Dad.
good reading
What Do You Know About Paperclipping? – The Marshall Report (diannemarshallreport.com)
read the site.
a good article outlining all the plants on fire, egg farms etc is here
https://diannemarshallreport.com/x-marks-the-spot-the-honest-not-so-honest-world-of-social-media-news/
Great site, thank you!
This was interesting last night, took me a while to find it again. Trump had addressed Melania, his family, and some other people, and then he turned to JD and Usha. Watch as JD gets up like he’s going to stand for applause for him, but Trump just keeps talking. lol Just to be complete about it, JD and Usha had stood up and received applause just a little earlier (if you back up in the video you can see it).
Trump doesn’t like him, and you can tell!
Necessary choice, to get the silicone valley lined up behind him maybe? Zuckerburg is even pretending to bend the knee.
agree – election insurance for a win
Ron: Makes sense to me and that’s as far as I need to take it. Behind-the-scenes power games have taken place since the beginning of human history and I’ll never be an insider.
So he isn’t Pence 2.0, he isn’t Obama 2.0, but more like the defiled, foul spawn of both.
Trump will need a food tester.
Pence wasn’t as obvious as Vance. The only clues with Pence were his being picked by Paul Manafort, CIA and State Department asset in Ukraine-and a very successful one) as a fait accompli to Trump, who had no say in the choice. At the time, Trump wanted Chris Christie. The PEPFAR experience of Pence was revealed during COVID when Pence was the head of the COVID Task Force. During PEPFAR, Pence worked with Dr. Birx, which explains her appearance on the Task Force.
You guys keep complaining about Pence and the Electoral Vote in 2021, but if he had done all of it, Trump would not have been “President again,” as he said in his speech prior to the Rally attendees heading for Capitol Hill. It wouldn’t survived the week without an unanimous Supreme Court tossing it. Constitutionally, Pence was correct. If Trump had done nothing but concede, run a perfect transition including a pack-out by the National Archives, and head back to Mar-a-Lago, he would be running clean without one indictment against him. They wouldn’t have anything to charge, no classified documents mixed with personal stuff, and no January 6th stuff, including no protestors going to prison on wrongful charges, no Elector Nominees being indicted for filing papers like what have been filed since the 19th Century unfolded, and no leverage against him.
Vance may have been the lesser of two weavils.
On the idea that the VP pick now, will be the automatic frontrunner for POTUS in 4 years from now, I have been sceptical of that, all along.
Didn’t work for Pence, didn’t work for Nixon, didn’t work for Humphrey.
IF Vance tries to pull a Pence, it will become obvious, as this time we are watching for it.
The MAGA movement is generating a whole next generation of MAGA patriots, unlike both wings of the Uniparty, which seem barren,…or perhaps too much inbreeding, has them producing nothing but weak retards?
In particular, I noticed the volume of applause for the various Speakers, at the Convention. Kari Lake is well liked in the MAGA movement, and as she says in her book, she is just getting started.
Lets focus on winning 2024, which will bw plenty challenging enough. Vance wasn’t my pick, but then I easn’t in the room.
On the idea that the VP pick now, will be the automatic frontrunner for POTUS in 4 years from now, I have been sceptical of that, all along. Didn’t work for Pence, didn’t work for Nixon, didn’t work for Humphrey.
I agree with you. It is definitely not automatic.
I see Sundance’s posting as a baseline, putting out historical information we can use to baseline our observation of the goings on post-election, presuming PDJT is elected. We can cast a critical eye and one founded in facts, not impressions.
SD reminds me that, while it is often beneficial to trust one’s gut, grounding that gut in facts is healthy. I tend to wander off into the gut more often than is healthy.
Now can can refocus on the down-ticket races, crucial to PDJT to get anything productive done. He needs a cooperative Congress to slow the Communist march down and inject some MAGA into the milieu. Tall order. Patriots are up to it 👍
Great! A hit piece on JD Vance! Just what we need when it appears everyone is uniting around Trump.
It’s exactly what we need. As Sundance wrote:
We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results. We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
SoAngryNow: I agree with your comment. Like not, this is the way the world of power works.
I looked at Truth Social and saw Lara Trump posted something about JD Vance. She received many replies saying he was the wrong choice. Some even said they wouldn’t be voting!
We can wish in one hand but it’s prudent to spit in the other. Gideon up!
Thank you Sundance!!
Recall shades of the boy from Hope, revealed as the seed from a Hot Springs cat house. Oh the web they weave!
I understand better why SD wanted Dr Carson as VP. I wanted Ben Carson as VP because he is a truly Godly/prayerful man and would have amazing wisdom to assist Pres Trump. 🙏
Reading Peter Thiel’s Wiki page it states he was an avid player of Dungeons and Dragons in his youth. I am convinced the IC infiltrates gaming and identifies candidates to recruit and groom for a variety of purposes. If you think about they could also infiltrate porn sites and identify people they can easily blackmail as well. IMO
What better place for the CIA to find and identify professional honeypots ?
Sinkingship: Online gaming hangouts seem to be a very good place to find sociopaths and psychopaths.
Name changed to James David Hamel when his mother’s third husband adopted him. When he married in 2014, he adopted the name of his grandparents – Vance – the people who raised him.
These seem like perfectly good reasons for the name changes.
to me the most winning arugment of it all, is just the change of tune once Thiel comes in and makes use of Vance.
I like Thiel – because I can understand what him and Elon are doing. They view the goverment as conquered place where if you are rooted in you can use regulations to hold off competition. Naturally they want to undermind the government and get it dependent on them (pull rug out and use cryptocoins like carnival tickets to live in their company countries)
are you aware that Thiel is gay and busy with his husbands, one of which fell from his balcony to his death recently. Someone posted about that on the first page of this thread today…. a pretty much disgusting read.
Wow I didn’t know anything about that and am now reading. JD might want to keep his association with Thiel on the DL.
You just wont let it go, will you
In all fairness I like knowing why his name changed better than not knowing.🤷🏼♂️
Let what go? It is my belief that conclusions for actions should only be drawn once all the facts are known.
Do you disagree with that?
My comments and opinions are as valid as yours – and I don’t constantly push them. Can you say the same?
I for one, appreciate the clarity. The article makes no mention as to WHY the names were changed.
Why should she?
Yep, had that in my family too. Disjunction can do that stuff.
The change of middle name seems odd though.
That was done by his mother and stepfather at the time of his adoption.
I think that was changed by his mom and step-father. That was his bio fathers name who he obviously does not think a lot of .
Multiple name changes are always red flag no matter the circumstances.
I disagree. I don’t believe it’s absolute. My father had his last name changed when he was adopted after both his parents died. Nothing nefarious.
Oh geez
William Blair to Bill Clinton, the same.
And for the same reason. Clinton was his stepfather.
Yes, but what about all the previous anti-Trump statements he’s made? The sudden change with his new book.
The support from Thiel and Musk just as Musk is pushing carbon credits. Still suspicious here.
No doubt that he was anti Trump before Trump became President. He changed his mind, like many other did. Nothing particularly nefarious about that.
Maybe I’m naive, but I believe in Trump, and I back his decision. He has his reasons and that’s enough for me.
No, I believe in Trump as well, but it doesn’t mean he hasn’t make critical mistakes as well. Pence was one.
I’m hopeful Vance doesn’t become Pence.
James D HamelMng Director/Portfolio Mgr, Artisan Partners LPArtisan Partners is an American asset management company headquartered in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Outside the United States, the company has offices in Dublin, Hong Kong, London, Singapore and Sydney.
Assets under management: 146.4 billion USD (July 2023)
Stock price: (NYSE) $41.95 -1.05 (-2.44%)
Jul 19, 2:19 PM EDT – Disclaimer
Headquarters: Wisconsin
Revenue: 993.3 million USD (2022)
Founded: December 1994
Ceo: Eric R. Colson
What does this prove, exactly? I don’t think this is the same person. Vance was a venture capitalist, but he was in California, not Wisconsin. I read this after a short Brave search. Obviously a different James D. Hamel:
James D. Hamel is a managing director and portfolio manager at Artisan Partners, where he leads the Global Opportunities Strategy and manages several other funds. He holds a Bachelor’s degree from Plymouth State College and a Master’s degree from the University of South Carolina.
Prior to joining Artisan Partners in 1997, Hamel worked at Kimberly-Clark Corporation, where he held various roles, including financial associate, cost analyst, and operations manager.
[…] Note: This answer focuses solely on James D. Hamel, excluding any information about J.D. Vance, who shares a similar name but is a different individual.
Good work.
I wrote a comment earlier in response to what SD wrote about JD Vance, his Silicon Valley connections, his venture capital biopharmaceutical investments and earnings, and expressed great concern that Trump had chosen a deep state plant.
I watched a video commentary on a speech JD Vance gave at The American Conservative.
His comments there were totally in keeping with foreign policy of Trump, and with the foreign policy ideas advanced here.
He spoke of Christianity, our country’s dominant religion and value system, as the source of American interest and tie to Israel. However, he also put forward the view that the US welcomes an alliance with Israel especially around defensive weapons technology, and in this sense Israel would not be a puppet state of the US but an ally: this attitude is respectful towards Israel which is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. Israel happens to share our values as well. The Biden and Obama administrations wanted to make Israel into a puppet, and treated Israel as if they were a banana republic. Trump and Vance, however, see a constructive partnership. The goal, says Vance, is to support Israel making alliances with neighbors, mostly Sunni but some Shia as well, to serve as a bulwark against Iran. This is important for the US to be able to look to East Asia and be less involved in policing the Middle East.
He also spoke about how ridiculous the idea was in the George Bush Administration to go into Iraq in order to promote democracy. All that happened as a result were thousands of people, including Americans dead, and the oldest surviving Christian community almost wiped out, and now Iraq is another proxy for Iran! Total failure.
These are not the statements of a globalist or of someone who intends to be on the payout side of supporting the globalist hegemony. The oligarchs wanted that war in Iraq and they couldn’t care less who was wiped out. The oligarchs want to see Israel destroyed, they want to see all nations destroyed who care about national sovereignty. He stated the opposite.
I am not saying that Sundance was incorrect. I am trying to recalibrate my concern from my earlier comments. I do feel there is the possibility that JD vance is just saying things that sound MAGA when in reality he is a deep state globalist plant. Or he could be a different kind of venture capitalist, maybe one that loves America.
On the other hand I recall the very point of Sundance’s article was that JD Vance is not who he appears to be. He has changed his name several times and clearly has had difficulty maintaining a clear sense of who he is as a man and of who he wants to be. How can a man who grew up without a father not have some difficulty with this?
In the end what matters are his true values as a man and human being. Some people here are probably better at judging people objectively than I am, but I personally do not know J. D. Vance so it is difficult for me to really know what is in his heart. All I can do is keep an open mind, keep paying attention to his words AND his deeds, and see if the data eventually form a coherent pattern.
I think this post of Sundance’s was very sad, but very necessary for all of us to see the world as it is, not as we want it to be. So thank you, Sundance.
I come here because we discuss the world as it is, not as it should be.
Ditto Jim !
We come here to discuss BOTH and we do on a daily basis.
Weve been through this before:
Please stop attacking others here. Stick to expressing your opinions.
This is how I deconstruct pretenders…. this is how we learn from the past. sorry if you feel threatened by that.
I’m watching you. Calling someone(s) “pretender”. That is your interpretation. Let others make up their own minds rather than name calling.
You aren’t a moderator here. Remember that.
Youre trying to limit my speech because you simply dont agree with it. Im watching you as well.
You are breaking rules here. Watch me all you want. See where that gets you.
PS: I don’t give a rat’s ass about your opinions. Express them all you want.
Remember that bullying won’t be tolerated, and that seems to be your modus operandus.
well ya know, the country is at stake. OUR literal lives and country and freedoms are at stake. Vance name only came up a few months ago. HAS he really been vetted??? Like Obummer we probably will never know. Like the assasination, we will NEVER know.
Tremendous post.
This is unsettling.
But, truth has no agenda.
Live your best life.
Words to live by.
As a staunch Trump supporter (since he came down the escalator) who worked for him, I am deeply questioning his JD Vance pick and nothing written above changes that. We will be in trouble if President Trump is actually working with “them.” Why else would he choose a deep-state player for his VP pick and potentially our president in 2028? None of this makes sense.
It makes sense for President Trump to get himself elected first. JD holds no power until he actually assumes office as his VP.
Then we will see how the ‘great awakening’ unfolds. I have faith in a just God, and I trust that President Trump will carry out His will.
I am still questioning HOW Vance helps him get elected though? What can a hillbilly do? Hillbillies and working folks are ALREADY with Trump. Vance brings ZERO to the table .. he can’t win PA … Josh Shapiro will be Harris running mate so there goes PA. Youngkin would have brought more in. Wisconsin and Michigan are VERY HARD to win
I really do think that Kelly Ann Conway could be the savior in ALL of this. She saw a path for President Trump thru those areas and it can be repeated.
I’m really down
He can’t.
With Vance in the equation as Sundance properly warns us, don’t forget that leftists haven’t disavowed assassination as a political tool.
Let’s just hope that if the FLY is coming in for a landing, he doesn’t show up too late like he usually does.
” … the network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.”
Is this “Masters of the Universe” 2.0 ??? It’s starting to sound rather more like a “cult” than a group of MAGA Americans … ??? Yes … I suppose that’s a question within a statement.
jus sayin
Don Jr had one on last night.
What does purple symbolize 🤔
Purple has long been considered a symbol for royalty and over the past decade the left communist one-world globalists have stolen that symbolism to mean any wearer of purple belongs to them, the globalists – and
I like that people are taking back the color for everyone to use without having to be labeled a left leaning communist loving one-worlder.
But, that’s just the artist in me screaming stop with the stupid labeling of colors to mean something it doesn’t and never will mean.
Royalty. Power.
In military parlance it symbolizes “Joint”.
The George Soros “Color Revolution” for the United States is the “Purple Revolution.” Democrat = Blue. GOP + Red Red + Blue = Purple.
The Ukraine revolution was the “Orange Revolution.”
I’ve posted many pictures of President Trump wearing purple- lavender ties. Just because some people have no fashion sense doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t either.
When it comes to collectible glass … cobalt blue is THEE color that is most popular. Red is probably THEE most popular color for 2 seater sports cars. Purple – lavender is a very popular color for men’s neck wear. These colors go with gray, black and brown… the 3 most popular colors for men’s suits.
I am ever so tired of the Left appropriating words and colors. So now we can’t have anything rainbow colored … a color combination that has forever been popular with anything related to children and the Holy Bible?
We stood by like little wimps and let the MSM “assign” “BLUE” to the Democrats. “RED” was ALWAYS a term for communists, violence and hot heads. Why don’t we just simply go back to using “BLUE” to represent the Republican Party? Is there a law that says we can’t?
I like colorful socks, saddle shoes and lavender ties and the rest of you who are so intimidated by the fashion police can just continue to wear what your “friends” tell you is acceptable.
red gets you shot in blue compton.
I wish we lived in a studio, for sure.
my inflationary ten cents….per google:
“But in many countries, purple is considered to be a colour of mourning or deep sorrow (like in Thailand, where widows traditionally wear purple). According to Catholic traditions, purple is the colour of spirituality and represents the suffering and sorrow of Jesus Christ’s crucifixion.”
Are we making too much of a silk tie? Isn’t purple also associated with states not quite turned ‘blue’ from ‘red’?
Not a wise choice, IMHO………..What ever happened to what we affectionately, in the olden days, called a ‘regimental tie’…?
Before I read this post I’d decided would not vote for JD Vance for President. Not today, not in 2028. The I’m from a poor single parent family like you; grossly overplayed. Transparent. Mid speech I knee jerked. What junk. Pimping the happy crowd who came for Trump.
Middle of Vance’s speech I knew I could never vote for Vance for President in 2024 , ’25, ’26, ’27, ’28. I mention each year of Trump’s term because, what were you thinking?! Trump would be allowed to do what his Voters want?!
Excellent uncovering by Sundance; I would not have put 2 + 2 together.
I only recognized the hot air in Vance and the performing. I noticed the difference between Trump’s devoted Christian wife and Vance’s detached Hindu wife. I reflected on the lopsided number of Hindu MP’s in Canada and wondered the role; why ?
Vance might mature as he ages. I didn’t really care for his self-importance either. It might take a minute to properly find his ‘place’
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we don’t have time for him to grow up .. the wolves are at the door
Trump may feel he can handle Vance.
Uncovering facts, and the valuable additional facts provided by gentle posters, all contribute to an overall picture of the man we can use to further analyze his observed actions over the interceding years, however the election turns out.
Also, the same matrix of analysis is valuable in a more immediate and personal area; our analysis of characters local to us in government and industry as it is their actions which impact us most personally and immediately.
Regarding Hindus, I can’t speak to them as a culture but where I used to live in rural California, where Indians have been buying up farms for a few decades, mostly from my fellow Russian immigrant families who came here a century ago, a community, mostly of those in the Sikh faith, developed and, while I was critical at the beginning,I found them to be peaceful, friendly, honest and overall solid community members.
Their actions over time resulted in that opinion. At first, I was suspicious. Then, facts developed. Back then, there wasn’t an internet to do a Google search on Sikh with. I personally never had any trouble with them as customers of the shop or as vendors since those not farming tended to run small businesses.
That’s my experience. YMMV.
You may get lucky and Kamala might be the Democrat party nominee in 28 and you’ll get to vote for her then. Once we start turning this ship around and begin heading in the right direction there will always be those to rain on the parade and fling a fly in the ointment.
Vance–performing?? I saw ‘speaking from the heart’. A “detached” Hindu wife?? I saw someone who was overcome, overwhelmed and extremely proud of her husband. Why is the number of Hindu MPs in CAnada relevant to anything????
the only person i trust running for ANY office is trump
the rest may as well be the enemy.
DIMON IS A GANGSTER AND A CARBON TAX IS A WEALTH TRANSFER GIFTING TO THE MULTINATIONAL OLIGARCHY.
IS THIS REALLY THE BEST YOU’VE GOT, VANCE?
BECAUSE IT SUCKS.
shhhhhh, they’re busy shorting tomorrows microsoft/crowdstrike stocks. (and selling puts today)
The daughter of immigrants, Usha Vance says she was raised with Hinduism and continues to practice the faith. “I did grow up in a religious household, my parents are Hindu, and I think that was one of the things that made them such good parents, that make them really very good people,” she said in a recent interview with Fox News. J.D. Vance said during the same interview that his wife’s faith was a key factor in his decision to re-engage with Christianity later in his life, which he says Usha has been supportive of.
https://time.com/6999385/usha-vance-jd-wife-indian-american-yale-law-hindu/
I have to admit I’m not a Indian fan .
Generally very shrewd people , or cheap per say .
I can kinda understand that if they came from impoverished India .
Doesn’t mean I have to accept it, or like it.
And I’ve developed an attitude to avoid financial agreements with them for work related stuff.
And I’m far from alone in my thoughts here in the northeast.
I know a man who runs his own business in the NE. House painting. When he gets a call for an estimate from an Indian, he never calls them back.
JD is a Catholic.
This video supports a comment by Clarion on the prior page. I was unaware that JD had used “childless cat ladies” as an epithet, and then he doubled down on it, during this interview. For the record, I’m female, haven’t had kids (and might never), and I have a cat (and a few other critters). Is this how he feels about me?
Is he demanding that all politicians have kids? If I don’t have kids I can’t be a politician? What is up with this guy?
JD, I am not miserable. I’m quite happy. And I’m conservative and a devout Trump and MAGA supporter.
Maybe the easiest way to keep a politician in line is to threaten his family?
JD thinks that people who don’t have kids don’t care about the future of the country. See my transcript excerpt below.
Did you hear him demand this in his statements?
Listen at :41.
He said that the Democrat Party and their policies are controlled by people without children. He didn’t demand anything.
It isn’t ladies with cats doing the controlling. I’d say it’s communists.
Ursula von der Leyen has seven children. She’s more of a problem than some cat lady.
Fight the real enemies.
:50 If we want a healthy ruling class in this country we should invest more, we should vote more, we should support more people who actually have kids ’cause those are the people who ultimately have a more direct stake in the future of this country.
Because people without kids don’t care about the future of the country? That’s what he thinks. It’s disgusting prejudice. I wonder how much time he and his wife actually spend with their kids. I wonder if they have nannies.
And, from wikipedia (the entry has a citation):
In a 2021 speech to the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Vance blamed “the childless left” for America’s woes, accusing it of lacking a “physical commitment to the future of this country.” He praised conservative Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán for encouraging married couples to have children and said that parents should “have a bigger say in how democracy functions” than non-parents. Vance suggested achieving this by allotting “votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of the children”, with the result being that “nonparents don’t have as much of a voice as parents”.
I pay taxes too though. And I think I pay more than any married person with kids. But JD would like to prevent me from voting? Or make my vote have less value?
Again, he didn’t demand anything, and you are putting words in his mouth. He is trying to make the point that Democrat policies are destructive to American families with children. That’s all he’s saying.
Our founders are rolling over in their graves at the term “ruling class’ for our ‘elected’ politicians.
Vance will make A LOT of mistakes in the office of VP
It’s the misogynist trope used all over social media by millennial and Gen Z male content creators. Personally, I have no interest in voting for a millennial ever.
I have yet to encounter one that – especially millennials – that share my values.
That being said a few years ago when I realized all those Western/European leaders that were gleefully destroying their countries had no kids it did occur to me that I wasn’t sure I’d want a childless president/prime minister because the future of their country was not as important to them. But our crappy, globalist politicians have children and are destroying the US so who knows.
I keep hearing too that suburban women are the problem. I don’t know any childless suburban women.
I think it’s just easy to say women are the problem.
The more I think about what JD said the more appalled I am. He said this in 2022 when he was a Senate candidate. Does he still feel this way? I am actually going to contact the campaign and ask that he issue a public apology. There are many single childless people living in big cities who might vote for Trump, and JD’s prejudiced statement could turn them off. If I weren’t devoted to Trump I would consider not voting for him with this guy as the VP running mate. Really really really poor judgment on JD’s part here. And it was only 2 years ago. I was excusing his criticism of Trump in early 2016 because I could understand reluctance in allowing a guy who had never held political office to become President.
I’m not childless but I owned several cats at one time, and it was wonderful.
Why don’t you go to the courthouse and register as a Democrat today. And then in November–vote for Biden/ or Harris/ or whoever they put up?? I’m so sick of people demanding absolute perfection from our candidates. Trump is the best thing we have going and our last shot at survival. I suggest you get on board.
JD is going to misspeak ALOT going forward–speaking to 400 people a day, and that will happen. But hey, you just contact his campaign and demand he check himself.
I guess you haven’t seen my other comments. I’m voting for Trump, nothing will stop me from doing that. The topic of the article is JD Vance, and my comments are about him.
That wasn’t misspeaking, he believes it. There’s a near-zero chance that I would vote for this guy for President in 2028 or any subsequent year.
If you were in the Democratic Party making stupid policy decisions, yes.
He is using my life situation as a epithet. Screw him.
No, he’s saying their policies don’t support families with childen, and coincidentally all these Democrats supporting these policies don’t have children. This isn’t difficult to understand.
I understand it perfectly well. He made a dig at women without children who own cats, as if there is something wrong with that.
If he really believes that’s who is running the Democrats, he’s not as smart as he thinks he is.
Of all the people I have heard suggested as running the Democrats right now, which ones are childless women with cats?
Part of the problem in this world today is people have become too sensitive. This has contributed to the woke world we live in.
I don’t believe Vance was trying to attack childless women with cats, as he was trying to make a point about Democratic policies that are destroying the American family.
Sorry if you feel this is insensitive.
He’s saying people who don’t have kids don’t care about the country’s future. Read my new comment a little further up, he actually said we should allocate votes to children and then let their parents control the votes. That would deprive me of being able to vote. I pay taxes … but I shouldn’t be able to vote? What kind of whacked out plan is that? He seems very prejudiced. Does he hate women who don’t have kids?
This is the way you read his statement. I read his statement as an attack on Democratic policies that are destructive to American families. There are more American families with children than there are single people. This is the point he’s making, not attacking single people who love cats. See my earlier point about being overly sensitive.
Good grief, how incredibly narrow-minded! Dem ads should have a ball with those comments!
I don’t know if 17 Cats In Tennessee had a family or not, but she was one of the nicest people on here. Cat ladies rock!
Very troubling. Questions are:
Has President Trump got this? Does he believe he can completely capture Vance from the clutches of Thiel et al.?
Or has he been completely duped, putting his presidency and the Country at risk?
Trump has this !
Will Trump have a food tester from now on?
JD can be the person.
Or maybe childless cat lovers.
He needs one with Vance as VP or not.
Yes, I agree.
Perhaps it was asked by someone earlier in the thread, but if this information was known before Vance was selected why was it not published here weeks ago when his name was on the short list?
Why would earlier publication have mattered? It’s not like President Trump asks for any of our input.
I’m not asking those questions.
duped as he was in his first term
BY SO MANY
I’ll give him a “pass’ on his first term as he was so concentrated on the economy and the world. He literally was trusting the wrong people and he was fed completely bogus information many times. But this time, he gets literally no free passes.
Worrisome. Should have been someone that scares the Deep State. It’s a matter of the safety of the President.
God help Trump!
Trump scares the deep state enough. And Vance has acknowledged that his job will be to support and advocate for Trump’s agenda at every turn. I believe he will.
Thiel has a thing for Lord of the Rings or Tolkien with Palantir Tech and Mithril Capital. Symbolism is big with the secret society types.
Thank you, SD. 1,000% agree something is way off.
“Who is JD Vance and where did he come from?”
The secret simply will no longer keep
For America is losing sleep
It’s time to break the spell
Who is JD Vance and what is he up to, do tell?
He’s been many times seen
Wearing a suit and tie and then full OD green
I hear he’s tricky as you please
He could be Samurai Japanese
mil intel?
deep plant, not deep state?
“infiltration, not invasion”?
long term deep cover white hat?
Once a marine ALWAYS a marine?
Need to know his Unit
Cover story is he was a correspondent
deep deep cover mil intel is a distinct possibility
Bushidō would be a net benefit for our body politic.
Justice
Courage
Mercy
Respect
Honesty
Honor
Loyalty
Self-control
Let’s see what he does, how he acts, before passing judgment. He definitely appears to have the right enemies.
Don’t ignore the evidence though. Don’t give him the benefit of any doubt. Demand that he prove himself.
No problem with that. In fact, that should have been the standard for ANY VP picked by Trump. Sorry people, but I think that Donald Trump is a very intelligent, forward thinking, STRATEGIC thinking man who veted – thoroughly – his potential VP candidates. I doubt there is anything in that article that Donald Trump didn’t already know about the man or any of the other potential VP pics. And he chose Vance. I trust Trump to make the most correct decision available to him. No potential VP candidate was without drawbacks and no one would have escaped criticism if he/she were chosen.
My enemies pay him tens of millions, so he’s an enemy, too.
Yeah, and reading the comments here, gaining more by the hour:)
In an Echo and Narcissus kinda way.
I have only one focus – Trump. If Trump wants JD, then I’m happy to let that play out. We’ve seen Trump make bad appointments and we’ve seen him get rid of them. He’s a business genius. He knows how to live on the fly and make considered, but fairly quick, decisions. He can’t fire JD, but he can make him more ceremonial, as most VPs are. It will be up to JD to prove that he’s good enough to be in the next set of potential 2028 candidates. It’s not automatic. He’ll have the visibility, but it will be affected strongly by how Trump and he get along over the 4 years.
I, personally, love that he’s in with the intelligence community. You need to know them if you want to master them. Mastering them will depend on being able to get large numbers of them out of the business and DC and into some rinky-dink job in the middle of a cornfield in the midwest doing something too confidential to publicly discuss. Or maybe Trump will be bold enough in his last office to actually attack the one-sided federal bureaucracy and get out the lower level incompetent dead weights, as well as the higher levels that the Dems move from political job to seemingly untouchable federal positions.
JD is an after thought. He can grow into something significant, but with his every action known to Trump who will keep track of his competition, even inside the WH, it’s not an uneven match between billionaires. Trump knows the inner ground better than Thiel ever will.
wow you do not know the IC at ALL
As Schumer said….they have six ways and Sunday
In an ideal world fast forward to 2028, Trump finally gets to enjoy life and JD is catapulted as the presidential candidate. Would he choose Kari Lake or Vivek as his running mate?
His wife chooses????
If that happens to continue MAGA he’d need Byron Donalds
Byron Daniels can challenge him.
JD-Vivek is guaranteed MAGA-killer. Might as well bring back Romney then if you want a monarchy led by investors and venture capitalists.
Trump must know JD is not MAGA. If he could see through Vivek he must be able to see through JD or whatever his name is. Perhaps this was done to ensure the election would not be rigged.
President Trump is a huge risk taker.
The tech oligarchs are using PT to get Vance in the door, PT using the tech to help with the cheat.
Will they allow PT to remain in position? That’s the risk..
And no, I have no clue who the poster “Lolly” is. It’s not me. (to answer your question from
previous page)
Trust Your Instincts and if you dont have any just Trust no one, not even yourself.
Vivek could have fooled enough voters to get Trump elected though
Vance has less charisma than DeSantis ………totally drab and unremarkable
Obviously ******whipped as well, he is constantly looking at his handler wife for affirmation. He’s weak.
Why was Vivek at Mar-a-Lago during the Christmas holidays then?
When has candidate Trump been kind to anyone running against him?!
He goes for the juglar. Just ask horse face.
another good article about Vance on leoholman substack connected to the vaccine big money
I believe that President Trump believes that he can free Vance from the clutches of the DS and other evil forces if they indeed have him in their control.
President Trump has tried this with others in his circle with mixed success. I believe Vance is worth the effort.
Either way we’ll know in short order.
why take on an experiment when he only has 4 years
There are no excuses that can be made. Vance will be the reason for losing this election. He is like the old bubblegum on your shoe….literally nothing about him wants you to keep him around. I’m not impressed. Actually would have rather had Lil Marco, at least we know his allegiance.
Vance was a NeverTrumper and he IMHO he still is. He is just a total fake. He even has the stupid way of laughing like DeSantis had. There is nothing original about him from what I saw at the convention.
Vance needs a father figure to lead him.
I think we will never have another President that isn’t a billionnaire or selected and backed by them. There probably were better picks and I really don’t like those that made their billions in hedge funds and money management, but those seem to be the players. The book and the relationship with DJT jr seem part of the progression that got him here.
I also am not impressed by people who made millions by investing. I like Trump’s tangible businesses, he actually constructed buildings, or did major (and excellent) renovations. He produced products.
I’m no Elon Musk fan but I must admit he’s produced products with all the money he garnered from public and private sources over time. His businesses have developed remarkable technologies. He apparently advertised he’ll be donating tens of millions over the next few months to support PDJT’s campaign.
Do we trust him and his kind? IDK.
Did we trust Ross Perot and his ‘giant sucking sounds’ and card shows in ’92? He was a product guy, instrumental in the development of information technology products? Nope, we trusted the smooth talkers and, if memory serves the one who won even got a federal surplus for a brief period. Of course, we don’t trust those guys now and for good reason. Their actions.
In God we trust. Humans, meh…. 👍
45 million per month until the election. I think that’s a good reason to be grateful to Musk. I really like Musk. I think he’s brilliant, innovative, a risk taker and detail-oriented enough to succeed. He has personal and business goals that make him the most fascinating person to follow. After The Greatest President Trump, of course.
Mark of IC–the name change. Bill Clinton is not his real name either.
The name changes are misrepresented here and not aligned with Barry’s path.
The name changes he has made were nit all his doing. Birth father, adopted father, ends up finishing childhood with maternal grandparents, Vance.
In adulthood, getting married, thinking of having children, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL for an adult to become retrospective and not want to pass on a name that was for some loser and not your familial name
If a guy gonna expect or desire a woman and children to take your name, one wants them to have the legacy, generational name not for some stepfather who adopted you and left!
This oath is very prevalent nowadays with all the genealogy, dna, and family tree researching.
Very misleading to say, as fact, that he changed name to write the book. But maybe not. If gonna write a book, a permeant documentation, that is the time to change your name, especially if starting marriage and family and always resented your name representing no ties to you.
The name change could also indicate a desire for branding prior to publishing his book and starting his political career. “JD Vance” has that down home country feel, doesn’t it?
I suspect everything this guy has done since graduating from Yale is grooming, both self- and with assistance of others.
So they let Trump win then he’s assassinated and the uniparty has achieved its objective. Letting JD Vance be vice president provides great incentive.
I hate it but I have to upvote your comment.
“Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.”
If Schmidt and Thiel own Vance, Bilderberg owns Vance. If Bilderberg owns Vance, the real Insiders of the Transnational Globalist Network owns Vance. So, we have Vance’s status as a Globalist, like most of the Big Tech/Big Capital elite.