Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for the assembly of a strategic campaign influence network, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph would be familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph also explains the right-side version of the exact same storyline, James David Vance. It’s a mirror.
On one side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their wing of the UniParty audience. However, both are following the same playbook.
It started with a conversation several weeks ago. Who is JD Vance and where did he come from?
How does a person without any baseline in politics, not a council member, not a mayor, not a state rep – or state senate, governor etc., become a U.S. Senator and then quickly get into the White House?
What I was told sounded eerily familiar.
JD Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013) and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when JD Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020). However, the interesting background on JD Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel.
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
JD Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline we can see how JD Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand JD Vance as an Ohio senator, the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies) from 2013 to now, becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company Palantir Tech is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI). Palantir has massive contract interests in US military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance. The actual technology needed by the Deep State to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, JD Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology? This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio senate race between JD Vance and Tim Ryan. It was Peter Thiel who took JD Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Thiel there is no Senator JD Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018; prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement; JD Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
JD Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership, a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the endorsement and the outcome of the 2022 Ohio senate race.
Within the Thiel network you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Musk and Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and JD Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
JD Vance even named one of his three children Vivek; suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how one billionaire, Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state creates the process to construct a political tool useful for the retention of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
Unfortunately, this approach also diminishes the Trump policy objective intended to eliminate the IC deep state.
As an outcome of a control network in 2006 Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of a control network in 2022 Senator JD Vance was successfully installed. Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical.
We have exhaustively outlined the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as factual. Additionally, we have outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once you understand how both wings of the UniParty operate you can then see how the system of silo creation, retention and protection works.
The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to retain it.
Like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ ALL IS NOT LOST – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken them and/or make them more vulnerable, you put them into a position where they cannot strategize the future because they cannot confirm a data point in their pathway.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee actually gives his opposition power. Essentially makes Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They are then forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing now. That opposition cannot look forward (proactive), they are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump can give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next four years, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad, must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network and the potential problem JD Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we must support that tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors and the aligned Vance influence network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to that 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale. James Donald Bowman, aka JD Vance’s background construct as lived or as sold is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to JD Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We accept that this approach is going to make Peter Thiel, JD Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
Tough!
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I find this post very dispiriting, but I’ve been here way too long to doubt Sundance’s research.
Vance could go either way. That said, let us continue to keep both President Trump and JD Vance in our prayers, to keep them safe from the Evil One in body, mind, and soul.
”Resist the devil and he will flee from you.”
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It’s troubling that Tucker is always involved in major decisions related to Trump. He was greatly involved in creating panic of a sort regarding Covid, begging him to do something about it. .
There’s something, something there.
I’ll tell you what’s there. It’s Tucker’s ability to influence his listeners. That is his function, inside or outside of Fox News.
The cynic in me would say that since Fox was already hemorrhaging viewers, the globalists sent him rogue so he could corral them all again.
It could be Tucker’s a wuss.
People need to Remember That If Heaven Forbid Anything Happens To Trump From This Convention Onward Vance Steps In.
He may see the value in MAGA. His handlers will potentially change direction, they always have a stable of recruits at various levels of development. A lot of things can change, Vance could be discarded, Trump may not be in office but he will certainly be overseeing the MAGA movement, just as Obama is overseeing the current administration, and direction of the party, which is why it is a complete SS.
I don’t doubt Sundance’s research, he has certainly uncovered some concerns.
He’s thrown up some “proceed with caution” signals.
Something we need to be cautious about is the fact that we are working backward to find that which supports a hypothesis, and it is easy to make mistakes doing that.
I’m not saying Sundance is mistaken!
I’m saying more information is required before we jump to any conclusions.
I must say, when Vance was first announced and I learned he had a son named Vivek, a tune from the Twilight Zone played in my head.
Vance is a carbon copy of Obama except white. Same recipe to get him here. I’ll start with that and keep an eye open like that cat.
Then Obama is the carbon copy.
Yes! Time will tell.
But, if not Vance then who ?
I absolutely love Ben Carson as many or most do on this site. I truly believe he is honest, sincere, loyal, smart, etc. Maybe the better selection. However he doesn’t come across as dynamic and energetic and maybe devious enough to deal with all the sharks in Washington.
One thing I have found over the years is the decisions one makes in life are rarely, if ever, are slam dunk perfect-There are always, it seems, trade offs, pluses and minuses to decisions.
Just looking at the many players in Washington, I don’t think you can trust any of them. Anyway, time will tell and I am trying to be cautiously optimistic on the Vance selection.
It will be more obvious how successful President Trumps second term will be once we see who his cabinet, FBI Director, AG, etc. will be and if he is getting real support from leadership and Republicans in Congress.
For what it is worth Vivek is a common Indian mail name meaning Sense or wisdom depending on translation.
Its not like coming across a child name Aluishis Fudpuckker.
I don’t know reasoning here BUT its his call, Maybe a deal, maybe a forced play, BUT its Trumps call he will leverage it to its best advantage. OR we can all wring our hands in dark imaginings, not vote and wait for the trains to the gallows.
F that F them all, Celebrate life, Celebrate our victory, A month ago many here were sure they were going to pull the nomination from Trump at the Last Minute.
We Soldier on PERIOD no looking back. We now have a rigged election to overcome. GOD has brought us here not Biden and not Trump. Trump is a great man but he is GODS man I will follow with out question because above all else I TRUST GOD
“Submit yourselves, then, to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” – James 4:7
Part one of that verse is the most important because it will be unsuccessful using your own power. 👍🏻😁🙏😇
Sundance reminds us that we ain’t going to vote ourselves out of this mess.
We can use our votes to protect MAGA. All of the talk about “Vance” running in 2028 … we’ll DeSantis him if he turns out to be a traitor. DeSantis dropped out of the 2024 GOP primary after the Iowa caucus, we let him know his disloyalty to Trump was the end of his presidential ambitions.
Yup 🕶️✝️🕶️
Voting is only one part of the solution.
Indeed. Along with pounding the doors of Heaven with prayer, living our best lives, the focus on rebuilding is all local.
Crazy isn’t it–The gates are getting closer and closing in. Or worse yet will it be a Civil War or even worse WWIII
Actually what is the worse of any of the scenarios
Above all else remember OUR ONE TRUE GOD IS IN CONTROL
I was wondering about the name changes….
James Donald Bowman birth name.
Changed middle name to David. He removed “Donald” which was his birth father’s first name.
Changed last name to Hamel which was his stepfather’s last name.
Changed last name to Vance (his Grandmother’s last name and mother’s maiden name).
A man searching for his identity. Another thing to think about.
I don’t think he was searching for his identity. He was removing the identity of the sperm donor. Sometimes parents need to be eradicated from the lives of their children.
Maybe he has found it.
“A man searching for his identity”. Perhaps he paid homage to the person (grandmother) who gave him one. Doesn’t it make sense he might not have wanted his stepfather’s name nor the name of the man who abandoned he and his mother?
Thanks for posting. I was curious as well.
A chameleon wouldn’t be my first choice to back me up.
Mayor deBlasio changed his last name! Oh, wait…bad example.
Well if that is true, I can understand. A sperm donor does NOT make father/dad. I have a couple of great grand kids I wish did not have the last night they do. The sperm donor was/is a complete jackass. Beat my granddaughter, played mind games, and harmed babies. He is a deadbeat, no account, POS. If the children want to change all identifiers later, so be it. Some “dads” simply do not deserve the children to have.
At least he did keep his first name, James, throughout all the changes.
So how many times did Obama changed change his name sounds like another similarity
I will keep on repeating this over and over even though I trust Trump
People need to Remember That If Heaven Forbid Anything Happens To Trump From This Convention Onward Vance Steps In.
Think about a young boy with a name on his birth cert with no face to go with it. they a sequence of various men– how sad. It is a wonder he didnt go a different direction– like thuglife.
a more worrisome name change belongs to Dan Patrick, Lt Gov of Texas, who changed his name in order to help evade almost $1million in debt. Yes, we knew about it in Texas, but the rinos pulled him into one political office after another.
That is what is interesting about some of the well known loud governors and elite politicians in so called Red States. People outside of the state don’t know or realize the real truth.
I moved to South Dakota because of Noem–Many on here tried to warn me–Boy did I learn—But i guess I’m faster then some others who escaped to South Dakota, I apologized big time about 3 maybe 4 months later. Hey some others still worship the ground Noem walks on.
Ack Noem is such a brown nosed RINO it isn’t even funny. Then to top if off about 1/3 or more of the State so called republicans office holders are even bigger brown nosed RINOS. Then there is the Dusty, Thune and Rounds in DC the biggest slim ball RINOs ever
After the DeSantis mess and knowing what I know about Noem, I have been questioning how many of the other states with so-called republicans in leadership positions actually have RINOs instead. Like it seems your state, is Abbot the real deal–I heard stories from long time Texas residents that say no.
I thought Noem was really something, for 15 minutes.
Regardless of the machinations that brought JD Vance to where he is… it is President Trump who will be President, not JD. If the dude steps out of line, I am pretty sure President Trump will take care of it.
I am not worried. If Vance proves to be a deep stater, we will find out and he WON’T get any votes to be President in 2028.
My support is for President Trump. He has to win the WH back so that he can save America!!!! I don’t care about anything else at this time.
The problem is this selection makes him vulnerable. There is no patriot VP that might dissuade them from taking another shot at Trump. He needed to choose someone even more Anti Deep State than him to ensure the movement continues.
He has just provided them with another opportunity to get their guy in place.
Trump will win so they can get their Deep State guy Vance in place. I am worried for Trump but realize that ultimately our solutions to our problems will not come from the Federal Govt. they are the problem.
States must nullify unconstitutional federal laws and practice extreme Federalism Our hope lies with the States and their citizens
So… Burgum and Rubio are NOT Deep State ? Both War Mongers, clueless about the world outside the Continental USA.
only Carson was trustable. Trump only had 4 years. Now he’ll have to fight like he did the first 4 years. I’m old I can’t do 4 more years of fighting. I’m ready to throw in the towel on all of it. Nothing will change, I’m resigned to it now.
I’m old, too, but I am braced more than resigned.
I’m old too and frikkkennnn sick of all the BS coming from the left. Including my own family. The medias have turn people into robots and violent mentally ill. My dogs know more that 65% of all people. Common sense of survival. Sick of having to be on guard all the time for tweekers, criminals ,liars ,and cheats running around outside in the dark. Lots of cleanup on aisle 9 here in SoCal…..
I’ll give up when i am physically Dead. Liberty is sacred my soul is eternal. No Eternal guilt trips for me
yes, I kept waiting for CTH commenters to name the perfect. Carson is not perfect — too old (cant help build a bench) and too soft spoken.
Carson has other plans. No one else to pick.
this feigns cooperation and assists getting into the Whitehouse.
Sort of “Keep your friends close but your enemies closer”?
I Don’t buy it!
Just like Trump did to Pence in 2020, right, Observer?
Pence lied his way to Jan 6th. Led all of MAGA to believe he was going to do what he didn’t do. By then it was too late.
*spit*
you forget that another Vice President put us in the place we are NOW …. I personally don’t want to be PENCED again
If we know all about that then so does PTrump and his team, in much more detail too. Do you think they are ignoring it all? That they are deliberately working with those SD has described and identified? There’s really no other answer if you are correct. The Trump team and he himself are either deliberately allowing the enemy in again, or they are told stupid to know any better under your views.
Ditto to that. But, by the time Pence penced us… it was too late. Now, eyes wide open and in the back of the head…
Just remember Pence. He stepped out of line…and by then it was too late.
Gen Flynn….pence had him canned.
It’s who Vance has on his staff that we need to scrutinize closely.
This is why I say that it is imperative that President Trump has a chief of staff worthy of that station.
Somebody should have been looking closely at who got on that covid task force.
No, the Chief of Staff does not choose the VP’s staff, but they should certainly take a close look at anyone brought in to work close to the president, and Pence had his suspicious America haters right in the middle of things.
Navarro!
Agreed, Clarion!
Right you are!
Yes I support Trump but DAMN–have you forgotten!!
—Heaven forbid that if anything happens to Trump from this convention forward Vance slips into the Presidency.!!!!
If Vance is another another fake then hang on if he gets the WH.
One of the first things PDJT did in 2017, very shortly after his first inauguration, was issue an EO on Election Integrity (link below) which gave democrats conniption fits and created much pushback from RINOs in general and Milquetoast Mike (Pence) in particular. That was the first solid evidence Pence was a backstabbing creep.
All we can do is watch and wait with Vance. We’ll know soon enough and hopefully DJT & Team Trump are way ahead of us in this regard.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-executive-order-establishment-presidential-advisory-commission-election-integrity/
“The problem of Peter Thiel, his network and the potential problem JD Vance represents can be dealt with.”
President Trump still has ‘two’ ears. The right one scarred, will always remind him of God’s Sparing.
It will remain open to hear the voice of the people—the same people who stood their ground with him in Butler.
What whispers may come from Vance or any one else who sits next to the President must now pass through the filter of divine intervention.
Evidently he paid attention to the cast of ‘influencers’ when he made this decision. I’m not sure they all have his best interest at heart.
listening to “influencers” is why we have Vance. Carson got relegated to the trash heap. Early speech, forgotten now. Poor guy, he’s one of a few who was loyal. Loyalty does not matter at all anymore it seems
Carson recently said in an interview that he felt he was too old to take on the role of Vice President.
We the people can make you or break you just ask Bud Light…..
Don’t be an Angry Men:Your Objects of Desire might be an Illusion!
1.”Trump policy objective intended to eliminate the IC deep state.”
2024 Republican Party Platform | The American Presidency Project (ucsb.edu) “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN” is dedicated to “The forgotten Men and Women of America” and describes America 1st as a “A Return to Common Sense” in preamble.
The platform, formally adopted at Convention on 7/15/24, doesnt’ deal with Intelligence Community/Deep State.
2.”President Donald J Trump makes it very well known […] that if JD Vance suck […], then [he] doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.”
Within his 90′ speech, President Trump (“I am running to be president for all of America, not half of America, because there is no victory in winning for half of America), said (bolding is mine):
“But I’m thrilled to have a new friend and partner fighting by my side: the next vice president of the United States, the current senator from Ohio, J.D. Vance, and his incredible wife, Usha.
He’s going to be a great vice president, he’s going to be great. He’ll be with this country and with this movement. Greatest movement in the history of our country. Make America Great Again. […]
[H]e’s going to be with us for a long time, and it was an honor to select him. […] So J.D., you’re going to be doing this for a long time; enjoy the ride.
Read the Transcript of Donald J. Trump’s Convention Speech – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Trump has made Vance the future of the Republican Party – Washington Examiner
3.”Those benefactors and the aligned Vance influence network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.”
Money makes the world go round, Carslon played a headliner at RNC and Ramaswamy could replace Vance as Senator. Just saying.
So it looks like Mr. Vance is the right-wing’s Obama?
Not understanding how he was hand picked to go to Yale, no knowledge of what he did while in the military (where did he serve, what ranks, was he actual combat experience or administrative/paper pusher like the former AG of Nevada Laxalt and best friend of DeSantis, was) those type of details, which I assume will come out during the coming months.
However, what has continued to come to mind is Teddy Roosevelt, having become President after the assassination of McKinley, he then ran for office and one a full term in his own right – and then keeping a campaign promise refused to run for his own 2nd term, claiming his first full term was actually his 2nd term – and the man he promoted to run as President, Taft, went on to completely undo all of the work done by Teddy Roosevelt.
It’s an interesting parallel, with of course exceptions so not exactly a parallel – but a poignant lesson that we can hope President Trump will understand how to ensure his work to make America great again is not a mere façade of what the deep staters will use in their march forward to world-wide totalitarianism.
Teddy Roosevelt:
https://nationalcowboymuseum.org/explore/savior-spoiler-teddy-roosevelt-third-party-candidate-1912/
p.s. one observation that hit me, at the conclusion of the convention, when family members were on stage, that President Trump and Melania Trump maintained a rather interesting distance from the Vance’s, as if the Vance’s were on the stage for mere formality and not as we usually see at the conclusion of a political convention, for both parties, where the Presidential and VP candidates and their wives are in the center of the stage hugging as if life-long friends. I did find that quite a tell.
My reaction to this is that when the Trump family all came on stage, it was , and should be, all about them. A lot of us are holding our noses so far with his pick for VP. I wanted Ben Carson.But this election is nothing like the 2016 one. Trump was a business man, and didn’t know all the players yet. Almost 10 years later he, like us, surely does now. It’s like saying we think we are smarter than Trump to doubt his pick. A nice thought is, what if JD is playing the same game as the DEMONrats play. Pretending to a lot of rino’s to be one of them. Maybe he is playing the long game and is really MAGA. I’m choosing to trust Trump, because HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!
not about Pence…..not about Scarf Lady, not about Fauci ………he went against his gut on all of that stuff
I think Vance was not his gut … buy hey he’s in it for 4 years only, the rest of us have to struggle financially with what happens if another RINO takes his place.
Trump said “get excited”. I’m really not
Personally also had hoped Dr. Carson would have been the VP choice; but yes, we really don’t know all the things PDJT had to take into consideration.
Also personally my gut has always wondered about Don Jr’s choices, after all, Kimberly Guilfoyle? Former wife to Newsome and dresses like a 12 year old Taylor Swift wanna-be? C’mon Don Jr. really? So was suspicious of the sudden newly minted friendship of Don Jr to JD Vance – who approached whom to create this new best buddy scenario?
Would have preferred if PDJT would be more in tune to his son Eric’s picks – if he even has one, since he appears the least emotionally driven of the elder Trump children.
We have what we have.
“After graduating from Middletown High School in 2003, Vance enlisted in the US Marine Corps. He was deployed to Iraq as a combat correspondent for six months in late 2005. There, he was assigned to the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.”
Placed in a position of safety. Like Desantis the Jag lawyer. Both rode desks.
New York Times…4 days ago…Vance joined the Marines after high school and eventually served in Iraq, where, he wrote, “I was lucky to escape any real fighting,” but it was a time that “affected me deeply nonetheless.”
My son served in Iraq as air traffic control for the Air Force. One of his friends diesd when a bomb was lobbed in to the base.
There were few safe jobs in a war zone.
Thanks. 6 months as a correspondent then public relations. Why am I not surprised?
One wonders if deals were made like the Reagans had to when he “chose” Bush.
The “no hugging” and no all four of them linking hands and holding them up in the air like at every other convention was a tell. President Trump didn’t even stand by Vance while they were on stage.
Hope Vance and wife who seems not to smile except when she notices her husband’s rise in the world got the message.
I caught that too.
No standing together with hands up in the air.
Kept waiting for it.
It seemed so strange.
Kimberly kept changing her position by a few steps so she could always be seen over President Trumps shoulder ( insecurity), Vance’s wife never smiling nor waving ( insecurity.)
The Trump family all happy and visiting with each other.
Something seems off here.
If we watch closely, we’ll know what it is.
I saw it as insincerity.
Kimberly G. has no place in this. she is not a dau in law. she is a girlfriend and could just be the first of others. KG is an attention whore and ex wife of Gruesome Newsome.
Her speech was deviid of any gratitude to Press Trump for slecting her hubby…also, she did the god bless everything but excluded Pres Trump.
I got icky vibes from her and hubby.
This is why the Thiel’s of the world need to have a bench; Ramalamadingdong, Haley, DeSantis, etc.. If Vance falters than it’s next up in 2028. However, President Trump won’t have a chance to be President again in 2028, so, in effect, as Sundance iterates, President Trumps endorsement will hold sway but how much that does will depend on, obviously, how well he can get policy accomplished. His prior economic policies already showed us results. He needs to get that done again to retain clout. These next four years also need to have Donald Trump act like a starving wolverine who views our enemies; politicians, the administrative state, foreign bad actors, etc., as raw meat. This won’t be tolerated well by any of them but who cares? All this conciliatory talk can commence after these battles are won. Maybe there will be a plot twist or don’t judge a book by it’s cover with this Vance guy but these initial few chapters of this book on him, are not encouraging.
Vance seems to get worse and worse. After reading a number of comments, its amazing the Vance is ok, trust the plan pretending here. Many here are attacking those that agree with the info that Sundance has brought to us and presented.
I think Vance is another Pence or Obama. It does make me wonder about Trump. Sorry not sorry.
Is this whole thing another episode of the Apprentice? I wonder. To heck with someone else for not liking my wondering.
Trusting the plan got us adopting the communist Chinese response to a cold virus.
Wondering is good, but it would help if you also wonder about what President Trump hopes to achieve by this choice. You could also wonder what options and variables the President juggled and is juggling. President Trump is navigating a complex universe and for whatever reasons he apparently decided this was the best option. In another life when you get yourself elected, you can make what you think are “better” decisions.
Wondering is good, but…
Pretender.
reminds me of – I support the Second Amendment, but…
Sometimes when baking a cake or a pie the baker has to work with the ingredients left in the kitchen and let’s face it, the bench of MAGA candidates is pretty bare, whether they are already holding office or running a business.
It’s not hopium or trusting the plan or pretending not to see, it’s our ability to not stop looking for, and seeing the strings, which is very hard when all most likely simply want to be at the happy ending part of this chapter of our nation’s life.
I just wanted to have a few days of peace and joy that our Lion survived the attempt on his life and resisted keeping my eye on the strings, but PDJT also said he has to show us how to fight and he’s right, even with the wound still bleeding very clearly told us to fight, fight, fight!
It’s not hopium or trusting the plan or pretending not to see, it’s…
Pretending
I just wanted to (pretend some things) have a few days of peace and joy…
same here.
It doesn’t matter. Trump will lose again because his campaign is completely oblivious to how the Democrats steal elections. Omega4America lays it out in this post.
https://omega4america.substack.com/p/if-the-election-were-today-trump?publication_id=1743537&post_id=146118942&isFreemail=false&r=b36xf&triedRedirect=true
Their conclusion based on actual data:
“The Trumpsters and RINOs think they are in an election, with some fraud, but enough to outrun if they stoke up the red-hatted new voters.
They miss the concept that when you have a ballot mill, you have a perfectly elastic solution – you can print as many ballots as you need – whatever the occasion requires. So let the Republicans knock themselves out spending those $40 million donations – because the Leftists will print more ballots.
There is also the financial side of things.
Fraud is much more efficient and thus cheaper than electioneering.
If you create a fraudulent identity, that illegal alien who filled out the registration and split – you have 100% certainty they will vote, they will vote for your candidate, they will vote when needed, they will not show up at the polls after you vote them – causing questions.
That’s a clean, efficient way to run a STEAL and it’s cheap. It’s subsidized with 501c3 money – which is tax free – making it even more efficient.
None of the 501c3s donating their billion dollars per state in embedded infrastructure has to do a campaign report – they are essentially invisible – except to our recent Dark Money System – and they constitute a ballot-creating operation Leftists can use at will.
The reality the Trumpers live in is one where elections are generally fair, embedded fraud is inelastic and can be outrun, Trump will pull in the anodyne senators now trailing.
Our data shows 2024 is not just a STEAL, it’s the BIG ONE.
Trump will lose in a close, but not too close election because he did not carry Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota.”
Wake up Freepers and tell the Trump campaign to ignore the consultants who lost them 2020 and 2022 and work on stopping election officials from sending ballots to fake addresses to be filled in by Democrat operatives. They have as many as 500,000 ballots in waiting in the swing states. Omega4America can identify the fake addresses and the NGOs registering illegals at those addresses. The Trump campaign will lose AGAIN if it continues to ignore Omega4America.
ths talk.
after the Steal – do people submit or stand. we shall see
I read this over and over, thread after thread. We know how the steal works, everyone does by now. What specific steps would these guys take, in which states and why aren’t THEY doing them?
And this is perhaps WHY Trump is going with the tech guys choice who is Vance. If you’re looking for someway to stop the steal, who would you want on your “team”. I’d go with Musk, Thiel and Schmidt. Silicon Valley guys, all with enormous resources, money and knowledge. Those Dominion machines that changed votes in 2020? They can be changed BACK with the right people on top of it (overwriting the programs remotely). You want machines to spit out bad ballots with no signatures, fake addresses, other anomolies, etc? Who do you want overseeing those machines and programming? I know who I would want on my team.
So I’m going to remain optimistic that Trump and Co. are going to be on top of it, with who’ve they’ve got in their corner now.
This! Fractal technology is effective and helped Sen. Ron Johnson get re-elected. It’s being used now but needs to be in every battle ground district.
RNC..spend your money here. Time is short.
https://www.omega4america.com
Brilliant synthesis, Sundance.
While I fundamentally trust Trump’s commitment to the mutual national interest, there is nothing more legendary or tragic than to do with excellence The Wrong Thing. The moment he announced Pence 2.0 for VP, I could not shake the feeling Trump had just made his first big mistake of the 2024 campaign.
With all the lovely sentiments and pageantry of the 2024 GOP convention, I fear the we are sleepwalking into the next battle with a plan to fight and win the battle before that we lost.
Something closer to what’s found at this link may be the more controlling reality. Maybe it’s not about the voters or the votes. How ballots are generated and tabulated to paralyze meaningful correction of a big cheat will determine the election outcome. The system is mostly a machine; blind, thoughtless and apparently more deeply rigged than we can appreciate.
As my hillbilly mining engineer grandad use to say: “When things go bad wrong, watch for this: The people who are supposed to know, don’t, and the people who need to know don’t want to hear about it. It won’t always be that way but it’s pretty much what you’re gonna find every time.”
It’s looking like he might be right. Again.
https://omega4america.substack.com/p/if-the-election-were-today-trump?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1743537&post_id=146118942&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=1ff87&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
President Trump had no political background – was a billionaire and a powerful man. He was also hated by many – considered a manipulator, corrupt, totally narcissistic, and on and on and on. Matter of fact the majority of “woke and modern day geniuses” still have that opinion and wish him gone. He was also a Democrat until he wasn’t. Your take on JD Vance is unsettling and pessimistic. BTW – Vivek is a common name for Indians – remember his wife’s parents are from India. Wow – I guess I’m simply a doofus – gullible as can be. I trust Trump’s judgment, am proud to be an American, and refuse to see the devil lurking inside of everyone.
Donald Trump was in the public eye for decades. Vance is a fatherless lower middle class thirty-something man from the midwest who became a senator having previously held no political office when a senate seat now cost a billion dollars plus.
I agree with your sound conclusions. To those I would add, “Fear not for I am with you.” Those are the words of Almighty God.
We should not tie ourselves in knots of fear by seeing danger everywhere. If J.D. Vance is a poor choice for VP, our fearful anxieties cannot fix that. We must place our trust in Almighty God who has already DELIVERED TO US many miracles this past week.
This is a spiritual battle far beyond the battle of personalities. Place these worries in the hands of Our Creator.
The words of Jesus:
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Mathew 6:25-30 (New King James Version)
Vance is the ‘choice’ of the uniparty for the 2030 NWO; God knows the future……and IMHO We have choices. Vance was not our choice, no voting done, except by the RNC/uniparty.
Calling evil good, and good evil has already taken place with Vance’s jettison to VP by the uniparty. Voting will keep him out of the POTUS position, too IMHO.
How I Joined the Resistance (thelampmagazine.com)
On Mamaw and becoming Catholic.
From 2020, FWIW, midway through he talks about Thiel
Wow, what a fantastic find! I heartily recommend this link, though it’s rather long. Vance’s description of his descent into Atheism mirrors that of someone near and dear to me … and who hasn’t found his way back. 🙏🏻
After someone (was it Ad Rem?) posted a reference and link to this article a day or two ago, I found it worth reading twice, perusing it slowly the second time. It just dawned on me that the descent-ascent journey structure reminded me of Thomas Carlyle’s Sartor Resartus (Tailor Retailored).
Only our God and JD (and/or, perhaps, his Mrs.) can ascertain the degree to which this articulated personal journey is real or fabricated (i.e., a tailored literary borrowing). I will hope for the former but keep reminding myself to be watchful for the latter.
I do not trust Vance. It’s a gut feeling I have had from the start and I can’t shake it. He comes off as phony to me. Maybe because I had the same reaction when obama first came on the scene. It’s the same feeling. I remain skeptical.
Excellent instincts.
“Murdoch, the chairman emeritus of both Fox Corporation and News Corp., lobbied Trump to choose anybody but Sen. JD Vance as his running mate.” (Notus)
PDJT had many considerations. Telling Murdochs to stuff it, helped to get Vance the nod.
Not exactly a mirror. Barrack was never a patriotic American in the USMC. We’re a proud bunch who believe that fact belongs in the resume of those who’ve earned it. Curious it was left out (Ire off). That said, I trust Sundance’s instincts. It’s likely that just as Obama’s commie roots make him the perfect candidate of the left, Vance’s make him ideal for the right. I believe Mueller was a Marine too, so… 😔 Anyway, it’s a pretty sharp comparison. I had always figured that Trump read this blog site and would’ve considered Ben Carson.
Obama is a patriotic member of the Global Coup. great soldier for them
Saw an interview months ago that he didn’t want to be VP. But another position was possible.
Maybe President Trump did seriously consider Ben Carson as his running mate. But then he got shot in the head so he was forced to pivot so he could remain in the game.
As long as President Trump remains in the game I am totally on board with his decisions.
My, MY how fast we go from liking President’s Trump VP selection to condemning him.
I was always taught in my 79 years to take things one day at a time. In the case of President Trump & JD Vance I intend to take it one term at a time.
As for as I know President Trump will hopefully be making the decisions for the next 4 years. I am not going to concern myself with JD until Jan 2028. By then we should know his politics and positions.
we positive think sometimes to get relief from the bombardment of attacks on us daily.
peril
Since Sundance never liked him I don’t think the change is sudden.
Lulu, my choice was Carson like Sundance and many others that comment on this site.
The point I was trying to make is let’s give JD a chance to show his colors in the 4 years he will be VP. He may prove to be a right-wing Obama but I prefer to wait before I make my personal judgement.
let’s give JD a chance to show his colors
But if you are presented with important critical information, don’t discount it.
I don’t think there were that many people who liked him much. Maybe a lot of neutral people. I was neutral but now leaning anti-JD. I think he’s just a wealthier version of DeSantis. I mentioned this elsewhere, remember the initial criticisms and evidence of why people shouldn’t trust DeSantis were not received well.
Not good at all.
I’d rather have the more libertarian (Thiel/Schmidt/Musk) side of the Uniparty, rather than the corporate Marxist side, ala Obama/Blackrock, side in power. And with Vance, I suppose that’s what we get. The tech guys are all backing Trump now. And there’s no coincidence in any of this. After all, it was Thiel and Musk who started Paypal. It was Thiel who funded Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit against Gawker ultimately forcing Gawker into bankruptcy. It was Thiel who groomed Vance. See the connections? Anyway, while Judas Pence, was supported by the Bushes, Ryan, Romney, McConnell and the old farts in the Uniparty, Vance is the new techies/libertarian leaning side. Trump has always been pro-innovation. And Silicon Valley appreciates that.
When interest align, you win.
Thiel was outted as a ______ by them, so he got even via Hulk.
interest align, you win.
And who would you want in your corner to stop the steal? I love Ben Carson, but Silicon Valley he is not. You need those Dominion machines monitored and programming to reverse the fraudulent vote changing? Who do you need? You want machines with programming to spit out the bad ballots with fake addresses, bad signatures, no serial numbers? Who do you want on your side? Who has pockets full of endless f.u. cash?
Nothing matters if Trump loses. Vance won’t matter. Ramalamadingdong won’t matter. Silos, Uniparty, Bildberberg connections won’t matter. Nothing. Politics is a game of concessions, no matter what we all want and hope for. The most important thing is getting Trump back in the White House. All else can be handled, monitored, maneuvered around later.
Trump and JD will be holding their first rally together tomorrow in Michigan, Sat. 7/20/24, 5 PM.
To all supporters attending, keep your cameras rolling, record the stage, peripheral areas, buildings, close ups on suspicious looking people, etc.
Watch for JD’s placement on stage, get close ups of his reactions, etc., etc.
You got this!
Citizen journalists have become more important than MSM. If anything goes down, do not turn it over to any LEO until you have backed it up.
Thank you, thank you.
Especially if an outdoor event, be positioned to spot, and alert, for a second attempt!
Watch Vance when Eric Trump spoke. Pay attention to Trump’s comments regarding Eric’s speech afterwards.
So our marching orders are to watch Bowman/Vance like a hawk. We cuss and discuss what we notice.
(And, not to support Vivek to take B/V’s place in the Senate.)
There should be telling signs after 1/2025 + 4 and if it looks like our hunches are wrong, it’s a good thing. We still may find a better candidate for 2028.
Kari Lake is the only one I trust to carry on the MAGA movement.
Kari looks promising and she certainly bears watching, but I don’t “trust” her just yet. All she’s done so far to make a name for herself is to lose an election and complain in a very public way.
If Kari manages to get the rigged election system fixed and then gets herself elected in her state, we will have her real track record to consider from there.
I have nothing against Kari at all. I am just naturally skeptical when the ENEmedia pushes certain people and narratives.
Most who are any good to MAGA will warrant nary a mention by the fake news ENEmedia. And to consider a relative unknown for the highest office in the land is a bit of a stretch.
I don’t recall seeing Kari @ the RNC Convention. Was she there?
From SDs’ lips to DJTs’ ears. I would want to see his reaction. If only it could be; would we know then?How could he not know? Once again, I don’t get it.There is,however, no other path. Whatever his name is J?? needs to deliver Ohio,Michigan, Pennsylvania…
So many of the responses here are identical to the anger and denial Sundance got when he outed DeSantis.
And the hopium directed at and chastisement of other posters that don’t like Vance or don’t trust Vance is identical to what happened with Sessions and Pence.
It never ends.
Exactly the same 👍
Yes, it IS reminiscent of the Jeff Sessions days
And I remember the strong misgivings Sundance expressed about Pence very early on.
I was looking for (didn’t find) an article Sundance wrote about VP Pence early in President Trump’s administration.
It was brutal – and correct.
Sundance was irate about how VP Pence showed blatant disrespect for President Trump. Don’t remember the exact details; I think it may have been that Pence didn’t say President Trump’s name or didn’t refer to him as President.
It was one of many articles that Sundance wrote exposing Pence’s treachery. He was right then and sadly, he’s right now as well, I’m afraid.
During the 2016 run-up to President Trump winning the election, a number of high profile ‘treepers’ here all flew the coop together. In their sudden absence, it became clear to me why they had been coming here -en masse- in the first place.
I don’t come to this forum to tell bedtime stories and braid hair. I also don’t attack dissenting voices. Information is what most of us seek here.
The comraderie we find in our conversations is a nice bonus for some, but I don’t let it distract me and peer pressure was never my thing. Maybe that’s why I am among the minority who refused the poison death shots.
How about we just allow the free flow of information and let people exercise their critical thinking skills? Lord knows in this prevailing climate of propaganda, censorship and cancel culture, we can’t get enough practice!
Watch Melania’s entrance to the VIP box last night. Pay attention to Usha’s face, and JD’s too, compared to everyone else. Everyone else is smiling. Melania is smiling.
You might say I’m scrutinizing excessively. I say we need to do it. Details are important. Usha and JD knew they were on camera.
It was not lost, I had people texting me about it. JD looked like Melania smelled bad.
We should scrutinize, one picture speaks a thousand words.
Usha did give the I don’t like Melania vibe, but that could be the standard women don’t like other women thing especially women that look like Melania.
a la Karen (the sausage) Pence……
I’m not a Pence fan but I don’t recall Karen Pence looking at Melania with apparent disdain. If you have an example to show I’m interested.
She did all the time, but she always looked like something smelled bad when she had to interact with Donald Trump.
Usha is a Yale undergrad and Yale law grad. Vance is a lower Ohio State undergrad but Suma cum laude. then a Yale Law grad and the law review editor. And Usha had time to earn a masters degree from Cambridge University UK They are trained to look down on anyone and everyone without comparable pedigrees, which is just about everyone.
I don’t know too much about Usha, but if “diversity” played any role in her getting into school, those people always think that they are the best there is.
I know many fine Indians who worked very hard to become successful, too.
Usually on the final day of the convention, the prospective President and VP hoist their hands in the air as a sign of solidarity, they speak to each other and pose for media pics together.
I found it interesting that Trump all but ignored JD during the final festivities.
I don’t see how they have much in common and I can’t see how someone goes from proclaiming Trump as Hitler to becoming Trump’s VP.
As Sundance says, “Suspicious cat remains suspicious.”
I don’t think I can take this anymore. It’s too depressing and we are allowed no moment just to be at peace.
Don’t give up, don’t let them win!
The whole purpose is to demoralize average normal people. They can continue because they have no moral fiber, their evilness is unprecedented.
They live to create chaos and despair because they are insane.
I know, it’s frustrating, but we cannot be at peace and it’s been like this since 2015. If you need to take a break periodically to maintain decent mental health I totally understand. But we’re in long war and we cannot back down. We must be vigilant.
We have started going camping no net or tv been a nice break.
Yes. A steady diet of propaganda does none of us any good. Our best weapon against evil is to have faith in God’s word and live our best lives.
Same here; so simply walked away from all things internet for a while, went out to play in the garden, get some real sunshine and enjoyed the fact that PDJT is alive.
We’re allowed to find our own pace and walk it. As long as we don’t pretend to not see the strings being pulled.
“Thiel has his own political-action committee, Free Forever, which is committed to supporting political candidates who support stricter border control, restrictive immigration policy, funds for veterans, and anti-interventionist foreign policy, among other things.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
I don’t get the hate for the guy on this site.
I’m sorry, but this one was beyond the pale. Comparing JD Vance in any way to Obama as you did in the opening was a tell on where this was going. I’m very disappointed in you, regardless of the facts you presented about JD. People do change. Reagan and Trump, himself, are good examples.
Do you remember initial criticisms of DeSantis? They weren’t taken very well, but it turns out the criticisms were correct. Don’t get upset about criticisms of “Vance”, just thoroughly read the material and don’t forget it, and re-evaluate your opinion of him frequently. Be demanding. MAGA demands that candidates care about us, not just their own wealth and power. “Vance” needs to earn our support.
Sundance is just explaining the playbook, same set up two different people.
It seems that someone should have explained the playbook to Trump instead of his two sons who might be clueless.
Vance is said to be a friend of Donnie Jr.
Globalists are Communists… They play the long game.
It’s no coincidence that Communist China has close ties to Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum. They are building more coal-fired power plants while demanding that we reduce ours. Their goal is to destroy our economy in order to usher in their globalist / Communist takeover. So what does China Joe do?… He halts the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline on his first day in office.
To the communists, victory in Russia was only the first step… Lenin proclaimed at the First Congress of the Comintern in 1919; “The whole world must go communist. “… victory is ours,” “the victory of the world Communist revolution is assured.”
We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under Liberalism, under Progressivism, under Democracy. But take it we will.” — Alexander Trachtenberg at the National Convention of Communist Parties, Madison Square Garden, 1944
What is the first thing dictators do when they gain control? They commandeer the media because the media controls the narrative.
The Communist Media is more dangerous than their Communist Democrat Party itself because their candidates couldn’t get elected without their lies, propaganda and coverups.
They are political activists and are a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States.
Communists have been infiltrating the media since the early 1920s…
98% of so-called “journalists” today are Communist subversives… They have a history of posing as journalists…The New York Times ”man in Moscow”, Walter Duranty, was a Communist propagandist who covered up Stalin’s starvation campaign in the Ukraine as told in the movie Mr. Jones… Also, Whittaker Chambers, Yuri Bezmenov, for example, started out as Communist agents posing as journalists before their ideological conversion leading to their denouncing Communism and defection.
I checked my bellwether Communist headline generators this morning and looked at the typical 40-50 headlines and saw nothing negative about Vance and only one headline referring to his wife and in a neutral tone, far from attacking. Also, PDJT was largely absent from the headline matrix too.
Headlines on the machinations of Brandon withdrawal appeared to be more robust.
I follow the Communist headlines to see who they protect and who they attack and who is irrelevant on any particular day or review.
I view the globalists and Chicoms as competitors in the divvying up of the world but they will cooperate to take down one of the superpowers, no problem.
Four years from now is an eternity in politics. What’s that they say about ‘the best laid plans’?
A linear road map till the present as written in this editorial doesn’t necessarily continue as predicted.
Trump has an agenda and a long range vision. He will know in due course what Vance is all about. For now he serves his purpose of helping the ticket for November in some ways. But beyond that Trump should have his eyes wide open. The Pence experience and other bad choices last time would be enough to keep him vigilant.
We hope.
Why was Pompeo allowed to speak at the convention?
So the audience could boo him and respond to his pauses after his talking points
with silence. Embarrassing.
Greetings Treepers!
IMO, Vance n Musk are WEF influenced dipwads.
Regarding his VP Pick, IMO, Trump was duped again…almost assuredly, primarily by his oldest son who “shacks up” with Newsome’s ex-wife and former mayor of SF.
Christ alone is our hope for making falling America Christian again. He Himself is the only refuge to flee to, to avert further displays of wrath.
PTL!
🙏✝️🙏
I posted the above on the OT very early this morning.
👊✝️👊
Kimberly looked so trashy next to the Trump women. So fake, she needs to tone it down. Imagine the book she will write if Don Jr dumps her. He knows it too.
Don, Jr. has been engaged to Kimberly since 2020. What is she/he waiting on? Perhaps a White House Wedding. They both suck.
For some reason, Vance seems to give off Dan Crenshaw vibes to me.
Same vibes that Nevada Senate candidate Sam Brown gives off to me, who is in fact originally from Texas and a friend of Crenshaw’s.
I think he is just happy he pulled it off.
Good News is that the fraud cabal might let Trump win now.
are you related to Lolly?
It is a risk, but PT is a huge risk taker.
no. I don’t know that other poster with the name Lolly.
Been seeing that, lately.
thank you
Here are two off the top observations:
1. Both Erik and Don Jr. also lobbied their father for JD.
2. JD’s wife has the same frown Michelle O has whenever they think nobody is looking.
Sundance’s analysis makes it obvious we’ll have to be on guard for, and quickly counter, deep state shenanigans for a long time to come.
According to people like you, the deep state includes among its members both Don and Erick Trump along with Trump.
If that’s true then there is now point on ‘being on our guard”. But of course, it’s all nonsense.
Someone posted this last night and I listened to it, start about min. 52. Whitney Webb gives great detail on Palantir, to which Sundance refers, and other supposedly private but in fact governmental companies:
https://www.youtube.com/live/8BqVnOu1WBs
Her material is eye-opening as to how late the hour is; it almost makes you think an EMF event would be a blessing.
I wish they didn’t have such long-winded videos, particularly at such a volatile time as this.
Thank you kindly for sharing the crucial “52:01” tip
I am feeling like I am going to puke! I was so surprise how media made his wives history disappear over night.
Does that make Don Jr., Fredo?
Well he isn’t the brightest of the Trump children so…
That may possibly be a mirage. Did you hear his daughter Tai last night?
That impressive young lady obviously has remarkably competent parents.
It might mean that Don Jr slipped a bit in his judgement of someone’s character. We’ll see.
Yes I trust the President Trump of 2017-2020 1000% and more.
The President Trump of 2017-2020 and even the many rallies this past year was not the same one on stage last night.
Trumps Speech was very very unlike most of his rally speeches and even previous convention speeches.
Many segments of Trumps speech reminded of my history professors or a John Wayne Speech.
There was VERY little about what we have to do to save this country and what the Globalist have done to destroy this country like most of Trump’s other speeches..
Something was definitely missing, but we have to remember Trump came VERY close to losing his life just a few days ago.
I am praying that the difference is not as drastic I’m thinking I am seeing.
Sadly, It Seems That Too Many Have On Here Seem To Have Forgotten, Maybe Don’t Care Or ?? That If Heaven Forbid Anything Happens To Trump From This Convention Onward Vance Steps In.
K,
Take heart.
https://t.me/RealEntheos/1547
BTW, it’s blue screen day. July 19
Crowdstrike
Ruh Roh Shaggy.
Counter-strike. 😎
Doing my best—Thank You & God Bless
Just knowing I am not totally crazy and someone else sees it makes it a bit easier to handle.
However it does mean that the worse is out there. .
Most of all i KNOW that our God is in CONTROL.
The trauma of a near death experience explains his sudden change in oratory.
Give him some time.
Mr. Mata Hari (AKA: PDJT) will return soon, with full steam ahead rhetoric. It’s certain.
It would have been better to have less of his personal family life (vulnerables) on display to that crowd who loves President DJT and Country
I thought he should have said more about the One who saved him from the bullet. He could have quoted some of our founding fathers about how important it is to believe in God and have faith in Him. Trump is totally, literally at the mercy of God. This nation needs to turn back to God and I was disappointed he did not speak about that.
Joan I agree !!! “He could have quoted some of our founding fathers about how important it is to believe in God and have faith in Him”
However look at how the GOP ended the first night of the convention. As I have said and been bashed for many times there is difference between the presentation of another religion’s prayer in closing the first night of the GOP convention to other gods.
For some crazy reason its OK according to many commentators to participate in reverent Hindu prayers to their hundreds of gods to close up the first night of Republican Convention.. Most of these commentators were probably some of the same ones who have been praising and thanking our good Lord for keeping his protective hands on Trump. Kind of reminds me of when Moses came down from the mountain the first time to find all the Israelites, including his bother worshiping and making pagan idols.
So I sincerely ask WHY–
Exodus 20:3 NIV
You Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me
Luke 4:8 NIV
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.
I will say one thing; he is an absolutist on abortion. No exceptions. Not many of those in the senate. That is a big F You to the other side.
Why doesn’t Biden announce his resignation today instead of after tomorrow’s rally in Michigan? Hmmm!!
More prayers all day long for our president and his supporters, let’s keep building that big beautiful, spiritual wall that saved his life the first time..
God Bless, stay alert, stay safe.
I am getting SUCH DeSantis vibes from this guy! Remember when DeSantis refused to say whether or not he was going to run for President in 2024 even though he was already campaigning and branding himself? This interview was done 7 years ago, purportedly about his book but I see it as just part of the grand scheme to develop the “JD Vance” brand.
I’m sorry, but I’m just not buying it. Thank you Sundance for your article and your wariness. I suspect we will all benefit from it. Skepticism is not a bad trait.
Worse yet I’m getting Deep Deep State Slimy Swap Setup Vibes.
Are we sure he was a ‘Marine’s Marine’?
Yep, I posted the video a few times back during the runup to the VP choice. Careful crafting has occurred IMO. That’s not an indictment as it’s typical among America’s corporate world too. Image and connections are key to success. Vance is another example.
AFAIK he doesn’t have FU money so he’ll be beholden to the power brokers who molded him and greased the skids to VP. Plenty of precedent for that too.
This seems a timely article; substack written by nakedemperor titled “The Fellowship of Silicon Valley – Frodo Vance makes the perilous journey with the One Ring of Power to the White House – Part 1” (when part 2 shows up will post a link here).
It answers many of my questions, such as what exactly did JD Vance do in the military – surprise, surprise, he was a journalist, a combat correspondent.
The author then very clearly connects the dots in silicon valley and all the players which corresponds well with Sundance’s post.
Here is the Part 1 article:
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-fellowship-of-silicon-valley
Always referring to him as “J.D. Pence” might be a useful way of communicating our suspicions to Team Trump.
This is an extremely dangerous post. Right after a fantastic RNC. The author has much influence over most of the posters here and it was evident after the vitriolic posts about JD’s speech.
Not sure what the point of this is.
People who are respected in the MAGA movement, and who put a name to their work: Stephen Bannon, Peter Navarro, are excited by this pick.
Why poison the well when victory is possible?
Not sure what the point of this is.
The point is to flag potential traitors. Never forget the example of DeSantis.
Also, it’s good operational guidance for us to cast a suspicious eye on similar local characters who can directly impact our real lives in the here and now.
The good news is patriots can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can do recon, collect intel and still support and protect our commander.
Sundance brings food for thought to the fore. The rest is up to us. We have the free will God gave us.
The truth is the truth.
The truth has no agenda.
Where did I hear that before?
They all liked Pence as well.
When it’s laid out so neatly it becomes so clear to see, whether you want to believe it or not. Trump has earned our trust but we can’t be so quick to blindly support those that purport to be close to him. They have to earn it. Frankly at this point with how sly and numerous the ones who claim to be on our side but aren’t, I’m assuming there is nefarious intent until proven otherwise when it comes to pols and the rich elite.
peter thiel 57 is quite the man.
married matt danzeisen 57 (formerly employed by blackrock) in 2017 but had an open relationship with jeff thomas “gay influencer” 35 who jumped from a balcony in miami in 2023 after their break up.
oh and they (peter/matt) bought 2 children.
looking for a recommendation?
peter should be the last person whose advice one would seek.
How do you know this?
You declared, “peter thiel 57 is quite the man.
married matt danzeisen 57 (formerly employed by blackrock) in 2017 but had an open relationship with jeff thomas “gay influencer” 35 who jumped from a balcony in miami in 2023 after their break up.
oh and they (peter/matt) bought 2 children.
looking for a recommendation?
peter should be the last person whose advice one would seek.”
peter and matt were born in 1967. ergo 57.
peter and matt’s wedding publicised in 2017.
matt’s bio includes blackrock per news reports.
peter’s relationship with jeff thomas and his suicide also publicised in 2023 when jeff jumped from balcony per news reports.
peter and matt have 2 children from women they were not married to. i presume they paid maternity expenses which is customary.
seek and ye shall find.
Thanks!
Astounding how much information is actually out there, in this age of information.
I had no idea……
I have disliked PT every since I ran across him online in the 90s, and studiously avoided keeping up with the wheres and wherefores of this POS
In light of this article, I am revisiting the Vance crack about childless cat ladies.
Classic misdirection. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.