Abandoned by his father to a troubled single mother; eventually raised by grandparents. He is then recruited from an Ivy league law school by shadow figures, a specific billionaire and a network of interests. He changes his name, writes a book about his life story, and with the support of the aforementioned – who eventually pays for the assembly of a strategic campaign influence network, becomes a Senator for 2 years before being quickly elevated into position in the White House.
Many people reading that paragraph would be familiar with the life story of Barack Hussien Obama. However, that paragraph also explains the right-side version of the exact same storyline, James David Vance. It’s a mirror.
On one side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the left. On the other side of the UniParty mirror we have an emotionally constructed political figure for the right. Each person, each emotional narrative, carrying the specific nuances to appeal to their wing of the UniParty audience. However, both are following the same playbook.
It started with a conversation several weeks ago. Who is JD Vance and where did he come from?
How does a person without any baseline in politics, not a council member, not a mayor, not a state rep – or state senate, governor etc., become a U.S. Senator and then quickly get into the White House?
What I was told sounded eerily familiar.
JD Vance was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio (August 2, 1984). He then changed his name to James David Bowman. He then changed his name to James David Hamel. Eventually, in 2014, notably after Yale Law School (class of 2013) and after marrying his wife Usha, now age 30, he changed his name to write a book.
It was 2014, that’s when JD Vance was born.
Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy was published by Rupert Murdoch’s publishing house, Harper Collins in 2016. The book was made into a Netflix movie, [Reed Hastings] created by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard (2020). However, the interesting background on JD Vance goes back to Yale, and the Obamaesque tap on the shoulder that comes from a billionaire most are familiar with, Peter Thiel.
Thiel first recruited Vance into his circle while Vance was still a student at Yale Law School. Shortly thereafter, Vance joined Thiel’s investment firm Mithril Capital, where he worked for two years before joining Revolution Ventures. Vance played a major role in Revolution’s “Rise of the Rest” seed fund whose major investors included Amazon’s Jeff Bezos. {Citation}
JD Vance then launched his own venture capital firm Narya Capital in 2020, using startup money from both Peter Thiel and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
From this timeline we can see how JD Vance went from no money (student loans) in 2013, to big money in 2020. Everything came via Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, but mostly Thiel.
To understand JD Vance as an Ohio senator, the inflection points in 2013 and the subsequent relationship with billionaire Peter Thiel (Palantir Technologies) from 2013 to now, becomes important.
Billionaires Eric Schmidt and Peter Thiel are key members of the steering committee of the controversial, closed-door and overtly globalist Bilderberg conference. Newsweek once called Schmidt and Thiel the two most influential figures at Bilderberg.
Peter Thiel’s company Palantir Tech is the driving force of a global surveillance system using artificial intelligence (AI). Palantir has massive contract interests in US military and intelligence communities.
Keep in mind, Palantir is the current company creating the tech mechanisms for the U.S government to conduct foreign and domestic surveillance. The actual technology needed by the Deep State to advance their interests, is provided by Peter Thiel. {Citation}
According to the popular narrative, JD Vance opposes the Intelligence Community deep surveillance state, while simultaneously being the political front for the interests of Peter Thiel and Palantir Technology? This doesn’t reconcile.
Peter Thiel was the money and network behind the 2022 Ohio senate race between JD Vance and Tim Ryan. It was Peter Thiel who took JD Vance to meet President Trump in Mar-a-Lago to get the needed endorsement to launch Vance into the U.S. Senate. Without Thiel there is no Senator JD Vance.
It is also important to remember that prior to 2018; prior to Peter Thiel becoming aligned with the FBI as a confidential human source, and prior to Vance needing the Trump endorsement; JD Vance was a staunch never-Trumper.
JD Vance went from calling President Trump “a literal Hitler,” to appreciating Trump’s incredible leadership, a remarkable shift in opinion. To his strategic credit, Peter Thiel was successful in gaining both the endorsement and the outcome of the 2022 Ohio senate race.
Within the Thiel network you will note the aligned interests of another key financial friend and big federal contractor, Elon Musk. Together, Musk and Thiel form the core of a very wealthy group of modern tech political influence agents, including another Yale Law School graduate and JD Vance supporter, Vivek Ramaswamy.
JD Vance even named one of his three children Vivek; suffice to say, they are close.
What you have read so far is the background of how one billionaire, Thiel, deeply enmeshed in the surveillance state creates the process to construct a political tool useful for the retention of his interests. A few dozen millions are a worthy investment if the investment creates and supports the objectives of the billionaire (Palantir Technology).
Unfortunately, this approach also diminishes the Trump policy objective intended to eliminate the IC deep state.
As an outcome of a control network in 2006 Senator Barack Obama was successfully installed. As an outcome of a control network in 2022 Senator JD Vance was successfully installed. Both Barry Sotero (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical.
We have exhaustively outlined the UniParty operation in Washington DC. What was once a radical concept and controversial, is now accepted as factual. Additionally, we have outlined the how the Fourth Branch of Government was created under Obama. What was once conspiracy theory is now accepted as the truth.
Once you understand how both wings of the UniParty operate you can then see how the system of silo creation, retention and protection works.
The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to retain it.
Like an abuser toward the abused, our ideological enemy uses our virtues of love and trust as weapons. We are in an abusive relationship with government.
♦ ALL IS NOT LOST – In everything that happens, the geopolitical power players -including the Intelligence Community- have what are called “strategic interests.” Meaning, they plan out their future position based on current events (data), pathways and predictions.
Some of these power structures are, putting it mildly, not good. In fact, they are eroding liberty, freedom and making us serfs. We feel it daily.
In order to best weaken them and/or make them more vulnerable, you put them into a position where they cannot strategize the future because they cannot confirm a data point in their pathway.
Having a known 2028 U.S. presidential nominee gives them the ability to plan for it. They are able to make moves to get beyond the 2024 to 2028 challenges they face; they look toward who they will be faced with as an opponent in ’28.
From that position, they conduct enemy operations against Trump’s strategy…. they essentially plan to outlast him, ignore him, put on a mask when they talk to him etc.
President Trump, making it known who will be the ’28 nominee actually gives his opposition power. Essentially makes Trump’s position less strong.
Had Trump selected a “one-term” running mate (I don’t care who it would have been), the opposition would not know what to expect in 2028. They are then forced to focus every day on what Trump is doing now. That opposition cannot look forward (proactive), they are forced to react. They are kept vulnerable.
Do you want your enemies planning, or do you want them reacting to the unknown variables?
Do you want them focused on your attack, or do you want them brushing you off as irrelevant in the longer term?
Do you want them on their heels each day/week as they try to figure out what you are doing…. or do you want them to know the destination ahead, regardless of the daily or weekly policy moves?
By selecting a VP nominee that will be the 2028 presidential nominee (what 90% of short-sighted people wanted), Trump can give greater power to the ideological enemy.
For the next four years, the deep state at home and geopolitical enemy abroad, must not know what they will face in the future.
From that position of potential vulnerability, they are forced to focus on daily events and counterstrategies, while unable -by design- to compromise the future opponent.
I never resign Trump to a failed position, as long as there is a way to turn a necessary decision into a winning and more powerful position.
The problem of Peter Thiel, his network and the potential problem JD Vance represents can be dealt with.
President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.
For Trump supporters and all supporters of the goal to deconstruct the worst and most toxic elements of the Deep State, we must support that tenuous 2028 endorsement message. After all, we are expecting Vance to uphold actionable policies against the interests of his benefactors.
Those benefactors and the aligned Vance influence network includes Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg, Vivek Ramaswamy and of course, many more.
I don’t care about anything that happened prior to that 2013 inflection point, the tap on the shoulder at Yale. James Donald Bowman, aka JD Vance’s background construct as lived or as sold is irrelevant to me. We do not have the time to be emotionally attached to any individual. We need actionable results.
We are not going to be battered conservatives, pushed yet again into the position of Charlie Brown to Lucy’s deep state, ‘trust the plan‘ football. The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt. Corruption is running amok.
The threat to JD Vance’s political career must be actual, loud and repeated often to keep the toxic IC and domestic Silo operators guessing. While simultaneously, every righteous attack takes down a small IC silo segment like a bite out of an elephant.
We accept that this approach is going to make Peter Thiel, JD Vance and the entire Thiel/Musk network quite unhappy.
Tough!
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Body language is all, and both he and his wife lost that game last night. Vance’s fake smile was like roadkill in the headlights, and his wife’s elitist smirk, well…
Vance is the next Mike Pence, and will be outed, and ousted as such.
On Wednesday, did she mention Trump? Assassination attempt?
The wife had the smirk until Melania arrived. I noticed that her facade crumbled when Melania looked her in the eye as she seated herself. JD looked like he had just seen a dream women then quickly gathered himself. The wife seemed really insecure after. I saw vibes of Meagan Markle. She controls JD. She immediatly started clinging by holding hands or grabbing his arm to remind him she was there. Imo people.
Yes, there was a shot of the two of them during President Trump’s speech where his smile was nervous and fake as hell, and she looked like she suddenly knew everybody could see she did not belong there, or she was suddenly felt very uncomfortable in that arena. A moment of being unable to keep the mask up.
Never discount where the cameras focus, and when, and why.
Just like the Bush funeral.
Got ’em.
OTOH. Skilled dissemblers usually are masters at deceit with total control over their public image. Usha smiles brightly, then in a flash everything drains out of her face leaving zero affect. This happened over and over throughout the night.
Could it be she’s just extremely shy, insecure, socially inept and overwhelmed? And/or exhausted? Can’t be sure because I don’t know her.
Ditto Vance whose jollity increasingly seems forced. What’s the source of his discomfort? Again, can’t say because I don’t know him. Time will tell.
Let us THANK GOD ✝️
For the 2nd Amendment !
Yes and every household in every State should have 19 loaded hand guns in their possession.
God Bless America 🇺🇸
What meme does
19 loaded handguns remind you of vis a vis Trump?
19 (hijackers, covid, etc)
Loaded
Handguns
=> Cabal message to their own, barely disguised.
And to us.
See it.
Roy Rogers began his western music singing career using his birth name, Leonard Slye. Leonard was a founding member of The Sons of the Pioneers.
Name changes are not proof the renamed person is rotten.
Time will tell if J.D. Vance can be trusted. President Trump is no fool and I trust he has the wisdom to adjust as necessary to what he regularly sees in the daily actions of his VP.
“Name changes are not proof the renamed person is rotten.”
No one even implied that it did.
It’s comparing the similarities.
Obama=name changes=rotten
Vance=name changes=? rotten
The subtle hint is right there.
He calls himself different names throughout his life, but it’s his claim to fame as ‘hillbilly’ that gets me.
As a coal cracker hillbilly I don’t fall for it. Actually it’s like Hilaries ‘deplorables’ OR Obama’s gun totting, Bible thumpers………
Obama ‘community organizer’ is a better likeness IMHO………both are fake.
The many name changes are a marker of psychological instability, a rejection of self even. Obama and Vance both had fragmented, difficult upbringings. Both raised in multiple places, accepted/rejected multiple times. Vance experienced a high degree of domestic violence. His family was more jacked up than Obama’s, if that’s possible.
My wife put on his Netflix movie last night. Beware this person. He is damaged goods, to the extreme. Such people are controllable. Like Obama.
Obama had a privileged upbringing, having attended private prep schools and private colleges up to and including Harvard Law School.
One of his several upbringings in Indonesia was privileged. Another in Hawaii with his white grandparents was not, same as Vance, and included parallels with Vance’s acting out days.
Beware this guy. Beware. Every klaxon should be blaring over this guy’s background.
The “prep” school he attended in HI is no biggie.
My cousin’s kids attended the same school. All college educated parents in HI avoid the public schools where “pidgin” English is par for the course.
Punahou is no ordinary prep school. It is the private reserve of the elite of Oahu. His classmates included Kevin Inouye. It’s as privileged as it gets anywhere in the United States, and as different as it gets from where Vance grew up.
What Sundance presents here is very important. Let’s remain trusting in Trump’s judgment but accept that he cannot do everything we want by himself and cannot do anything without relying on people he leads. I’ve seen plenty of people who start in one philosophical position and adjust to a different position when inspired by great leadership.
Obama’s grandfather on his Mom’s side was CIA. Yes, Obama had a privileged upbringing. People need to listen to Cashill who is an investigative journalist who wrote books on Obama. Who by the way, was called “Barry” by every one who knew him.
But he passed himself off as a Christian, community organizer, do gooder, Barak Obama married to a ‘female’ while being gay……..AND he got elected twice with the aid of the uniparty! AND has been acting president for another term……AND he may get in again with Michael at the helm…….AND he got away with murder, to boot.
Fake doesn’t mean failure; look at the millions made in theatrics, it’ll blow your mind. IMHO
I wonder how many people know he changed his name so many times? When I read the article, the first thing i thought of, why all the name changes. So why did Trump pick him? They said he did it to win the Rust Belt States. The person I don’t trust is his wife. Noticed several times when PDJT was talking they would show here and she looked pissed off. She is definetely the one to watch. Also, they looked lost on that stage at the end of the rally, like no one wanted to share the joy with them.
The wife is the Achilles heel, I agree . Not that she is evil , but she may be the snake in the grass no one will plan for .
I always had the feeling that Melania isn’t all that comfortable around the Deplorables. Anyone else think that?
No, she knows the elites aren’t her friends.
I am a yr older than Pres Trump, originally from NYC suburb and have lived, thanks to marriage to US Navy husband/later businessman, in a boatload of states and towns. In the past 25 yrs I have seen a huge in-migration of Indians in each of these places, North and South. Many are medical doctors, both husband and wife. The lesser ones, sharing a common surname, run motels and liquor stores. Their children end up in the area’s private schools and they test reasonably well to go on to good colleges, though not as smart as Chinese recent arrivals. Just like in J. D.’s situation, these girls (Usha was at Yale, can only guess at her family background) will pounce on a bright white male. Dark skin aside, they’re attractive and speak good English. Socially “pushy” which translates into political ambitious. The white females of similar social background are too busy worrying about abortion rights and will overlook someone that yrs earlier might have made a perfect mate! However, J.D.’s bright blue eyes are lost in his DNA forever! In a way this keeps him safe from claims of “white supremacy”, so that’s a tool denied the Democrat “workshop” which is useful IMO. Also, Usha can be used to neutralize Kamala somewhat, smarter and younger.
I have seen this scenario repeated in my own family and with friends our age, too. A sad example is a descendant of an early US Pres now has the little Ushas as grandchildren b/c their son fell prey to a Harvard Usha-Kamala! I pray that J.D.’s wife will not be a Hillary Clinton “wannabe” in a couple of years, and she should be given speech-making opportunities during this campaign to test her ability as a supportive spouse, right?
Trump didn’t pick him; he’s UNIPARTY through and through. ‘Fake’ is their middle name. And he has enough names to be really fake.
Trump gave US, following a near assignation, minutes to ponder his ‘pick’ of Vance; We know they tied his hands once again…….NO and I mean NO VP is ever picked by the candidate……the uniparty does the ‘picking’ of the nose and the slate for VP. I thought this year was going to be different, with US having a say so. Trump kept a long list for US, right??
It’s a political game and you ain’t in it; We haven’t been in the game for a very long time. Like my father said, standing on your on land/your own yard talking with all the neighbors is the way to learn about the world. Politicians don’t know anything. Grassroots seems to be defeated once again. AND Hello to politics as usual.
2030 NWO/communism will be ushered in by Vance/Bush Cartel……..right on schedule. IMHO
You know I meant assassination; spell check. It was pretty close though: assignation for an assassination – not bad Siri.
We will see how it goes. Maybe what you say happens but maybe not. God just showed us a straight up miracle when he saved President Trump. The plan was assassination. No more PDJT. But God had a different plan.
So they are planning on ushering in their NWO. But they are just men. They are flesh and bone and they don’t live forever. They don’t control the universe. Not really. They only think they do.
So lets see what God’s plan is. Maybe what you say happens and maybe it doesn’t.
Our eyes are wide open at what they are doing. That has to be a little unsettling. Think of what PDJT said in his speech. The crowd didn’t flee. Even with gun shots, a man killed, and others injured. And when he rose up with his fist in the air the crowd chanted back to him, ” USA, USA, USA!” Heck, I even saw a guy flipping off the MSM right after it happened.
I don’t give up, yet.
I wouldn’t believe anything presented by Netflix. Will never have it in my house.
They bait with action films, and then smoothly slide in the depravity when you least expect it. Just like HBO did…
And Ron Howard
Most of those name changes were done when JD was a child. Eventually, he went back to his grandparents surname, Vance. His upbringing was tragic, but there could still be good from bad. My own spouse lived through parental violence and alcohol addiction, poverty and neglect, but, by the grace of God, he and his siblings turned out to be generous, loving, successful individuals. Do I hold out the same hope for JD? Nope! Sundance’s assessment is correct. It would appear that JD is bought and paid for. On another note, I was disturbed by Vance and spouse’s choices of color for his acceptance speech. Democrat blue. Signaling? The only animation I saw in Usha’s face on Thursday night was when she looked at her husband. The rest of the time on camera she was deadpan and appeared disassociated.
My gut tells me he is angry and ashamed of his own tribe. It is pattern you see often among the left, every culture, tribe, language and faith are cool, except your own.
I hope I’m wrong.
There are exceptions to every rule. Domestic child abuse is dehumanizing and degrading to the child. Some survive and do not perpetuate the horror either in themselves or their children. JD Vance survived a lot as a child and was tempered in a strained and challenging environment. Kudos to his achievements.
I am unable to detect these achievements, only purchased sinecure, from oligarchic swine.
Roy Rogers was not a heartbeat away from the presidency and and didn’t have the power to break ties in the US Senate.
I wish he had been. We’d be in a better place.
Can’t help but think of the Elton John song named after him. 🙂
I can see him not wanting to keep his surname because his father was rotten. I don’t know why he changed his middle name and his last name again. Maybe someone should ask him?
Donald was his father’s name, so Vance changed it to David (don’t know where that comes from) after he abandoned them. Hamel is the surname of his stepfather. He finally changed his name to his grandparents’ surname Vance.
Trump didn’t name a VP selection until the very last minute; he knew all along it had to be Vance. He watched Jeb then DeSantis, be picked as the candidates and watched them crumble under Our viewing, feelings and research -but mostly gut grassroots feelings-
We got hours not days to accept Vance; AND he doesn’t pass the smell test so far for me. IMHO he IS Obama, Pence, McCain, Bush/Bush, DeSantis, Dole, Romney, MacConnaell, Shummer, Pelosi, ALL rolled into one.
That may be why he has so many names in real life…….
JBS is tooting Vance to the highest; can’t figure that one out, they are even slurring Sarah Palin to make Vance look good……that does not sit well with grassroots.
John Wayne was born Marion Morrison. There is nothing inherently wrong with changing your name. But context is key. Wayne worked in showbiz where everything is fake and manufactured.
In politics you would hope for someone who is truly authentic and not calculating and contrived all the time. Changing your name in politics has a disingenuous taste to it. I’m disappointed bowman did it.
Consider this. Bill Clinton was born bill blythe. If my facts are wrong please let me know. His violent, drunken stepfather was Clinton. What does it say when someone politically ambitious uses a better sounding name attached to a violent scumbag instead of his less glamourous sounding birth name from a father who died in a car wreck.? That move in itself said a lot about slick willy. And unfortunately it might speak volumes about vance.
It’s early, I know, but I don’t see a backbone at all.
None.
I believe Trump sees the same malleable jellyfish
Don, Jr. is good friends with JD Vance. Trump blindly listens to his kids.
But isn’t Don Jr. dating California Governor Newsom’s ex? I read that somewhere recently and quite obviously it took me aback a bit, especially if it’s true.
Guilfoyle(sp). The billionaire dating pool just isn’t what it used to be.
NO VP has ever been ‘picked’ by the candidate for POTUS; I thought this was going to be a drastic change for the good with Trump actually picking his VP.
So much for hopes; just Praying for Trump to keep him in line; because it sounds like he plans to GROW the government not follow the Constitution literally. NeoCon the right word?? or uniparty, or NWO/Bush Cartel acolyte? I don’t know what he is , but he ISN’T a hillbilly conservative grassroots American.
Even the Hulk, huh?
Never liked him anyway. Was always a Flair fan.
I do not trust any of the folks you listed, Sundance. Have not trusted any of them for quite some time. I also do not trust MATT WALSH. I thought he was ok until I read his verbal attack on Amber Rose. I watched (well, TRIED to watch but kept skipping over parts hoping it would get better) Tucker Carson’s speech at the convention. I thought he was utterly embarrassing and I thought about all the interviews he has done and where he seemed to ask only “soft ball” questions. And I always thought it was suspicious when he was on FOX why he was allowed to stay when others were fired or quit. With Trump’s pick of Vance, I am suddenly finding myself questioning him and his always taking the advice or instruction from Don Jr and daughter Ivanka.
Thank you for ‘cutting to the chase’.
Criticism of President Trump’s choice for VP, is direct criticism of Donald J Trump.
First,
Trust God. Fear not.
Exactly.
All this hand-wringing about JD is premature.
Chill out, folks.
Exactly. With this nomination DJT has just placed JD Vance into the refiners crucible. We’ll find out over the next few years whether he is real, or simply fool’s gold. If we’ve learned anything from Trump it’s that he elevates people and gives them room to succeed or fail on their own character. In four years we will know if Vance is the heir to MAGA or not.
Chill out for now, but you do realizes Vance is hand picked to usher in the 2030 NWO/Bush Cartel/Communism for the uniparty don’t you? I pray at every daybreak and take each day at a time, and the time flies; 2030 is very near. Vance is Obama – a uniparty manmade hero; fake as their names.
I know God is the only sure bet, AND he also punishes; if We don’t stop the blood of Our children at the hands of abortion, abuse, trafficking, meds, surgeries, how will you distinguish between God’s mercy or His punishment – ending the world could be viewed as either.
You realize Trump has ‘lightened’ his stance on it all. That almost got me to jump off the Trump Train. He did that for the unity, for the uniparty approval.
You only have to look at the faces of Vance’s and Obama’s mates and you see hatred with a Capital H.
Why are you dragging the name Bush into something that might happen six yrs from now. If George W is still breathing in 2030, he’ll be older than Joe Biden is now! I don’t think he or his brothers or his father will be even remembered in the Republican Hall of Shame at that point.
See, that’s not the connection I make at all. I’m not criticizing President Trump. We’re just checking out Vance.
I know President Trump has good reasons and I trust he is doing what he thinks will get him elected. Scrutinizing the VP does not equate to criticizing the President himself.
He just this week got shot in the head! Of course there will be drama to fill a stadium! This doesn’t mean we’re not behind the man all the way.
Amber Rose? Shes a Sex Only Fans Queen
Fox News? Those who were fired or quit, their reasons had nothing to do with the content broadcasted.
Why not take his Family’s advice? You see what happened when he took the Republicans advice. Trump was forced to take Traitor Pence by
Mitch.
“The Obama network ultimately led to the modern IC surveillance state. The Vance network now appears to be positioned to retain it.”
I have complete faith that economically we will thrive under DJT and probably geopolitically we will be at peace but the IC has gotten their insurance policy with JD…maybe DJT made a trade off…I cannot other wise see why this choice…
No one says the American people have to accept Vance as any kind of candidate in 2028. There are plenty of others to choose from who are more MAGA. You forget we the people also are watching, are much more aware of the IC manipulations, and can have a big voice if we choose to use it. It’s not a given that Vance or whatever his name is, will be the next Pres. or even win the nomination.
Exactly! Forewarned is forearmed!
Always remember: It is our movement. They can throw out there anyone they want, it will be us at the end who we pick. We are too awake now.
Good point, but only one flaw many of US will become D voters – We’ll be dead.
I do have hope in the next generations to a small degree; but, without history and civics being taught……..
My father said the hippies would ruin the world, I said there were enough like me to stop them……
Every generation has qualms handing over the reins……….
“No one says the American people have to accept Vance as any kind of candidate in 2028.”
Vance may not have to wait until 2028.
Did you think Trump would have given in to them?? He is US.
Social Security is going to collapse. They will use it to usher in the CBDC and UBI. Every issue you mentioned will be moot.
On one hand we praise God for sparing Trump for a greater purpose than we know, then on the other hand we tear apart the work of the same God. We praise God for being in control of all things but we nullify that praise with the constant hammering at every minute in the day.
I find it all very destructive. We say we trust the Holy Spirit to bring clarity and understand but we immediately bury His power of wisdom and discernment with suspicion.
Yes God is in control. I will not presume to know God’s every detail because after all I am not 100% correct 100% of the time. I am a human who does not know the entire picture because I am a mere human. I pray I will always be a willing vessel and trust God in all things, although I am NOT perfect. I pray my fellow citizens remember they are not perfect, but remain willing vessels for the Word of God. God is shaking…pay attention to Holy Spirit. Political truth, and man’s platform and proposal will always be tainted with the pride of power and yes evil.
May God bless our leaders and influencers. May God bless you. Praise God for His Goodness. Have faith in Jesus Christ and what He did at the cross. Remember, God has, does and will continue to use humans for His purpose. To God be the glory. Blessing.
God Granted each of us free Will. We are not questioning His Infinite Plan or His Will. We have to continually question our own, as well as others.
GNanny, I receive what you wrote. We will know them by their fruit. President Trump’s fruit is why we all love him so much. He has proven faithful time after time. On a couple occasions he took bad counsel (Covid vaccines and Amy Coney Barrett are the worst examples), but otherwise he exceeded every expectation.
Ben Carson’s speech was outstanding, and I also believe his fruits show a deep faith. However, if the knives came out for him, we could be having the same discussion about how he’s got unusual Seventh Day Adventist beliefs and the old story about attacking his mom with a hammer. No one comes to power without skeletons in their closet or shady benefactors.
I look forward to President Trump’s new initiatives as well as transparent analysis from Sundance to shine the light on those who would seek to corrupt his administration. Most of all, I call on the Holy Spirit to reveal our leaders’ true hearts and give us perfect discernment.
I didn’t watch the convention last night.
My level of disappointment is off the charts .
Everything I have learned since the selection of Vance and now this post has quickly drained my gas tank .
It is now bone dry.
We need leaders who are loyal to the founding fathers vision.
The emotion of loyalty is first developed in the family structure.
Vance had no family . His current family is a construct influenced by some really sinister influences.
He didn’t even retain his family name .
If Vance is willing to do that selling out his countrymen is no problem.
When I look back now a how Vance used his mother’s life story in his speech it reminds me how Obama used his ,so called racist white grandmother,who raised the Half white POS for political gain when race baiting was in order.
I don’t expect anything but bad to come from this selection.
Remember , if there is a deep state and they were behind the assassination attempt Their goal was for their agenda to be implemented.
Now all they need to do is wait for the right moment and they will have their puppet in the Whitehouse for at least twelve years.
In my mind The odds of Trump serving a full term are zero.
Vance is his mother’s maiden name.
Point being.
Nothing could make me change my last name .
If your mother married again, and you wanted to be a “family,” you might.
A stage name for an acting career, maybe ……
Marion Robert Morrison —– not quite the same catchy ruggedness as John Wayne.
Isn’t hollywood and the dc swamp one in the same, just on different coasts?
These name changes were done TO JD when he was a child. He went back to his grandparents name when he was older.
Sadly, I agree with you that Trump may have a short presidency.
Is that all you have to say about the content of my post?
Vance will do whatever he needs to do to Promote hi s selfish interests especially if it is outside the view of the public.
You can take that to the bank.
Vance had no family . His current family is a construct influenced by some really sinister influences.
He didn’t even retain his family name
He had a family – his grandmother and himself. She was the one bit of stability in his life, and settling on her name honored her. I think the whole name change bit is a red herring.
I see your point.
I COME from a very large family.
All Italian but very diverse in many ways .
All with their own points of view .
Being able to draw on such different points of view have been a priceless resource enabling me to navigate this cruel world we live in.
A single grandmother cannot fill the void caused by having only one confidante no matter how much she loves you.
“Single grandmother” equals a single dominant female influence void of any positive role models. That is until he me Thiel.
What I want to know is did he have a Rabbi in the Marine Corps? Was his military specialty in public affairs in any significant way a component of intelligence operations?
I agree. He also has a sister who remained steadfast throughout his life. We can’t step into another person’s shoes, he had a horrible childhood and made decisions accordingly.
I’ll support Trump/Vance. The alternative is unthinkable. But I’ll keep a cautious, open eye on both of them. Trump isn’t the full conservative I’d like him to be either.
You don’t like Vance, so you avoided watching President Trump in perhaps the most important speech of his life?
Strange reaction.
In no way is my support for Trump diminishing .
I am glad he had from what I hear was a fantastic speech.
I support him 100% and will never forget what he has and is doing for our country.
I have come to the realization that he is a lone warrior in a sea of deceptions and that one man is not going to be enough to save the citizens of this country from themselves.
My God more than half the country still listen to the media that lies to them constantly.
I am just totally drained, disappointed ,exhausted Andy at the moment am being overcome by a deep Seneca of dread.
I’m disappointed in the VP pick. I don’t consider him Appalachian or relatable, and I feel his book/movie promoted stereotypes for his own personal gain. It’s hard for me to envision 2028 at this time considering all that we’ve seen the past decades. He’s going to need more than a Trump endorsement to get me to vote for him.
Sorry but hope is not a strategy. Trump will make Israel great again, hike tariffs on China that we end up paying, maybe deport a few illegals and do nothing to reform the corrupt CIA, FBI, DOJ. The only good thing he may do is end the insanity in Ukraine and avoid war with Russia. For that alone he has my support.
Hope may not be a strategy, but neither is pessimism.
Someone once told me to cheer up, things could be worse. I cheered up, sure enough, things got worse.
Please tell me this site hasn’t become a Nick Fuentes type place. Granted, haven’t been here in awhile.
I think I accidentally clicked on the DUmp site. What a trainwreck. Joe Biden mighr still have a chance.
All the strategic planning from the very best of strategic planners can be in place, but you still have to have hope that planning will work.
It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. So fight!
We’re told that the Eye is necessary to defend ourselves against foreign enemies.
But the Eye is used increasingly against us.
Many evildoers within our land want to put us in a box.
If the Eye cannot be restrained from domestic abuses then the Eye must be removed or rendered blind.
This will obviously lead to other problems, but does the fight for liberty not outweigh any other troubles we may have with those who would govern us?
JD and Usha, do you remember President Pence? I don’t…👀
Sadly, the intelligence community controls the money and the power. Mike Johnson showed us he is not up to the job by approving crazy funding for Ukraine etc. Not sure who will run against the intelligence community since they control you and your family’s physical safety. We found out last weekend they are not above
any measure.
I like that thinking!
Maybe the missed bullet was telling Trump pick Vance as your VP or next time we don’t miss.
Yeah I don’t think there was an intention to miss.
I would be okay with Vance serving as Trump’s human shield.
I don’t think so. You think Trump isn’t reading this article!
THAT exact same thought crossed my mind as well.
The intent was not to miss.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer…
Just a thought:
Trump always recites the Snake poem, yet he allows one close to him.
Or has he? Maybe by using Vance, he has gotten the snakes 🐍 to invite the “mongoose” into their den of vipers to destroy them in their own house.
🤔 🤔
Just sayin.
I have thought that maybe he’s luring them in close for monitoring. But I’m running low on hopium and 4D chess goggle fuel.
Good insight.
Why would Peter Thiel invest and spend substantial seed money for JDVance ?
This is what always makes me laugh. “I’m the great American success story. I came from Appalachia and made it big in business.”
It’s easy to make it big in business when you have billionaires fronting you money.
Who grooms people like Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt? Such a lovely person is Thiel. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11926699/Peter-Thiels-model-boyfriend-died-WEEKS-NYE-showdown-billionaire-husband.html
Oh my gosh!!!
this now makes this article (the mirror) have another connection to hussein O! The gay component.
I had no idea thiel was gay, but it certainly now makes you think it has another connection to how jd could have been lured, or blackmailed, or enticed.
Very Thoughtful. The one name Sundance didn’t drop was Soros. I have heard JD also got some college funding from Soros. Does anyone have more info on that?
CIA and the Pentagon. Identified young as someone highly skilled in areas useful to the government, and then assisted with money and contacts so as to place themselves in areas of influence. It’s a Win/Win. Give the smart guy a little help and ask for a little help and loyalty in return. Both sides are fully aware of their role in the system. There is normally an ideological alignment as well.
I remind you that the VP is appointed by the party at the pleasure of the presidential nominee more or less to be the president’s gopher. If the president at any time is not happy with the VP’s performance the President can have the VP replaced with whomever he nominates if he can get the Congress to confirm him or her with a simple majority,
May I remind you also that now the RNC has been taken over by folks loyal to President Trump and his MAGA constituency. We’ll have to wait and see how this all shakes out, however, I do believe Vance will have a tight leash under President Trump who’ll cut him loose if he misbehaves.
While this may be true, the forward looking / planning is what really matters.
This will be Trump’s last term. Who follows?
The globalists WANT US TO CHOOSE OUR PRISON LEADER.
Vance will be a known name and an American tradition to be the next Pres. Candidate.
Americans groomed to choose the leader who will enslave them.
Globalists win.
So did Pres Trump “approve” of jd bowman-vance??
Vance backers pushing carbon tax. Trump says Drill Baby Drill! Vance best tread lightly. He will be under the microscope.
I didn’t detect any “way forward”. I read that it’s hopeless.
Go back up and read where it says “ALL IS NOT LOST.”
It’s not hopeless. However, it isn’t all rainbows and roses moving forward either.
Keep 👀 open.
Agreed. President Trump got shot in the head last week. Man up, people! This will no doubt be a very bumpy ride! He is FIGHTING for our country and so must we!
Here’s what doesn’t jive to me with this/his story. If you desire to be buried in the same cemetery as your family for generations, how is anyone gonna’ know you’re family with a different last name?
You reject their name but nothing else?
And trust me, I get the ditch the last name bit.
He could be buried next to Grandma “Mawmaw” Vance, who raised him?
C’mon, be serious.
You name your family and what cemetery they are in.
excellent Sundance…thank you…..
Damn.
Exactly why I was hoping it would be Ben. That choice would have given 3 years to sort out the true MAGA from the fake for a 2028 endorsement.
I hope Trump gives him plenty of anti-Uniparty duties so he can prove himself or fall flat. Force him to piss off benefactors very publicly.
Damn.
Saw that pattern too…
The globalist is in the hen house.
Watching articles talking about Vance’s policies!?!. Intentional conditioning for our future?
JDV= Pence 2.0
Yes, been seeing jd pence as a reference.
In the writeup of his background, Sundance doesn’t mention JD Vance’s service in the US Marines. I guess that was left out because it doesn’t fit the Vance = Obama script. Or that he graduated from Ohio State in just 2 years. The picture used doesn’t reflect the fact that he converted to Catholicism. When an author purposely leaves out details that weaken the case he or she is trying to make, recognize tgat you are reading propaganda. Sundance is making the worst case against Vance, just as the left makes the worst case against Trump.
Vance never saw combat. Neither did my sister, an Army nurse. She joined the Army so that the government would pay for college. Damned lucky her four years ended right before she would have been sent to Vietnam.
My deceased husband was a MENSA. He graduated from a four-year university in two years, summa cum laude, while working a full-time job. Being 1 in 10,000 doesn’t make one a better or more decent human being.
My entire birth family is Catholic. I know of only one who attends Mass and Confession.
So your point again is … ?
Vance’s service was as a journalist. Was in Iraq 6 months. Vance chose “a religion” in 2019, a usual move for beginning a political career.
His Marine service is a big question for me. What did he do for who? What schools did he attend? Some other former Marines;
L. Oswald, C. Whitman, J. Carville, R. Muller, ect, ect…. Service in itself isn’t necessarily good or bad, its a trail I want to follow.
You lost me at “I guess.”
After reading Jay Valentine’s substack on how the next round of fraud is going to allow them to steal the election, I’m not sure it even matters. Jay writes about the hundreds of thousands of illegally registered voters in each of the swing states and no one is doing anything about it. (that matters)
So yes, perhaps JDV is another plant, but he would be plan B if the fraud machine in overdrive doesn’t pull in not only the Presidency, but also the Senate for the rats.
Hopefully you will read the following. (it’s a free read)
If the Election were today, Trump loses
https://omega4america.substack.com/p/if-the-election-were-today-trump
Thank you for posting this article. I felt like Vance was a snake but I had no idea it was this bad. Screwed again. Makes me wonder if I should even vote. We never seem to win.
If these past years have taught us nothing else we should now realize that finding, vetting and electing members of our government requires action and effort long before it is time to vote.
If you wonder if you should even vote, you may not have read Sundance’s entire article.
WITHOUT DONALD TRUMP, we will be in horrible shape.
VOTE.
Please rethink that not-voting thing. I was diagnosed with a terminal illness less than a year ago. Fifth surgery is next week. The cancer keeps a-comin’ on back, sigh. I kid you not — one of my first thoughts last year was, “I have to stay alive long enough to vote for Trump.”
Not “I have to stay alive to see my little granddaughters graduate from high school,” or hell, even “Celebrate their next birthdays.”
I wanted to vote for Trump a third time, because without him in office, the future of those precious granddaughters may be as bleak as mine.
Not asking for sympathy or prayers. Just stating facts. And the fact is, without our votes, Trump doesn’t win.
Please vote.
Yes, you should vote.
That’s not in question.
I personally don’t think the election will go off in a normal way. We will see.
“The trust account of the American electorate is bankrupt”
AMEN.
Thank you Sundance, your wisdom coupled with your insightful investigative skills and God’s discernment is rock solid gold!
Eyes wide open and prayer abounding for President Donald Trump and Trump Family.
As always, with much wisdom and learning, thank you. May God cover you and your family be blessed.
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Hussein wasn’t raised in the U.S., didn’t serve in the military, wasn’t a brilliant student in school, and never ran any businesses or did any real work.
The REALITY, like it or not, is that Donald Trump has no choice but to have to deal with where we are today, and nothing gets done against the IC without insider connections. Remember the brief, failed tech committe that Trump tried to start in 2016?
Do these guys have their personal money-making wishlists? Are they going to lobby for them? Will there be some horse-trading and deal-making? Most likely.
There is no choice, no alternative. Trump HAS to get into the belly of the beast and deal with them, including with their support where that can be immensely useful — whether Putin, or Kim Jong Un, or the Bilderberg and IC crowd, or others. Nothing is a binary issue, and EVERYONE has his own agenda — and that includes every Trump supporter, whether it’s the energy industry or other industries and businesses, or career politicians and military, or social conservatives too many of whom are one-issue strategically short-sighted, or just the ordinary working schmucks who want to pay their bills and buy a house and live a good life and put their kids through college.
I trust Trump. And by the way, he’s smarter than they are. Yes of course we stay alert — we were asleep when the Won did his dirties (AND also his predecessor clapclapclap had so many sheep cheering his speech atop the WTCenter and being patsied into the “War on Terror” etc.)
I’m tired of the whining.
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” we were asleep when the Won did his dirties (AND also his predecessor clapclapclap had so many sheep cheering his speech atop the WTCenter and being patsied into the “War on Terror” etc.”
as Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, “what do you mean WE , white man”
not all of us were asleep and dont speak for me.
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The collective “we” allows that there are exceptions to the rule. I’m wondering what your actual objection is to what I said.
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Amen.
Thank you for this. Logical analysis. I remain excited about the rekindling of President Trump’s agenda.
Forwarned is forearmed as Sundance underscored in his post: “President Donald J Trump makes it very well known, and constantly reminds people for 3 years, that if JD Vance sucks, flinches, is inept or doesn’t follow orders, then JD Vance doesn’t get the 2028 endorsement. Thankfully, I saw the first indications of this last night during President Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC Convention.”
Well said! I too am tired of the whining.
thanks for a good dose of common sense, OC.
after reading 8 pages of comments (i started with the newest first), my eyes needed tums.
i know that doesn’t make sense, but that describes it.
i thought maybe KAOS had released one of those pesky psychotropic gasses again.
yes, agree, i term it “practical politics”.
PT has written a whole book about it, “The Art of The Deal”.
PT assembles people who can be of use to him in specific situations.
they need not be ideologically simpatico, or even “nice”, just effective for a certain purpose.
until proven otherwise, i will wait and see.
alert? of course.
on guard? certainly.
but as with liars, trolls, and traitors, time will tell the tale.
i trust PT to be PT.
that’s as close to optimal as you can get, in this life anyway.
‘Both Barry Soetoro (Obama) and James Bowman (Vance) are mirror images of each other; the playbooks used to create both are identical.’ – Sundance
Nailed it! As commentator Hulkamania wrote today on another site, ‘You couldn’t write a background that screams “I work for the CIA” (or similar agency) more than Vance’s does. The dude glows like the sun.’
Evidently, the Fourth Branch concluded that since it can’t stop Trump, its best fallback is to slot in Bowman/Hamel/Vance as Trump’s minder and successor.
To pull off the Soetoro/Obama playbook again is a complete mockery of the American people. I will complain unrelentingly about this dead-eyed Agency ringer, mocking us to our face. How dare they?
My question is, why did Pres Trump pick him then?
or did the RNC pick him? If so, doesnt Pres Trump have to “approve”?
I asked myself why there were so many images of the President surrounded by his grandchildren. I didn’t like the answer I got.
Barry’s childhood is not recorded. Vance’s is very much so.
Here’s an interesting interview and commentary on Alex Karp …
Palantir: The Company No One Sees … https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2156651010?t=00h19m45s
Just watched the movie last night about JD Vance’s life. Very moving. Nice to see his mother has been clean for 10 years now, as he gave tribute to her at the RNC convention and she was there.
Why didn’t you do this critique when he was still just a name in the hat?
Why wait until he was selected to bring this info out?
Perhaps if you had put this information out earlier you wouldn’t be having doubts now.
Or am I simply late to the show and you’ve done just that already?
Searching this site is almost impossible. It’s structure isn’t conducive to past searches.
You can’t even find your own replies unless you manage to remember the day you wrote it and the page it was on.
If you have some insights on how to effectively conduct such a search I would be appreciative.
site:https://theconservativetreehouse.com philman_36
I see.
You have to go offsite to find your replies within the site.
Thank you.
Even then you have to scroll down to find the reply on that page.
Hey, I’m more informed than I was before so I’m content.
Thanks again.
We were warned. Stay caught up cause it may get worse.
You’re assuming I’m not caught up.
BAD assumption.
Interestingly, searching “Vance” in the search dialogue box pulls up these responses. I don’t see a critique. DO YOU? If so, please direct me to them.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=Vance
Even this article, if you don’t type in the name of it, doesn’t show up.
As I said, not very conducive to searching things out.
What a shame. That was posted the day AFTER Vance was selected, not before.
I stand corrected.
It seems to me that the article you posted is a critique about people OTHER THAN Vance, rather than Vance himself.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/11/01/senator-jd-vance-vows-to-block-all-doj-nominees-while-biden-uses-weaponized-justice-to-target-political-opposition/
“JD Vance has some tenuous network affiliations in his background that give me a little pause…”
That’s not much of a critique and that’s the most I can find.
You have something better you can show me?
What difference would that have made? I sincerely doubt that the President consults with SD.
I totally agree with the not consulting SD part.
My query was more of a philosophical aspect of the angst shown and if it was so important and so critical why the information wasn’t covered until after the fact.
Even more troublesome is the source I was shown didn’t even cover the subject, only those orbiting the subject.
SD did critique the three candidates he felt were a no go to keep the Trump ticket free from the influences who wish to hold the power for themselves, the non MAGA ones. Vance was one of them. Even had their pictures up.
Not that I’ve been shown or seen. Please feel free to provide such information at any time.
I would gladly read anything you provide.
The only and most important hope is electing Donald Trump president. The alternative is certain persecution, invasion, conflict and violence. Nothing will stop me from supporting President Trump. He is the essential first step towards preservation of our way of life. No one else is capable. That is why they tried to kill him. If he succeeds others will follow.
That is why they wanted to kill him publicly and graphically with high speed cameras present. So that they could replay it a million times. As a threat to anyone who would stand up for us. End
What does JD Vance’s conversion to the Catholic faith suggest about how to understand him?
Is it the same as Obama’s conversion under Reverend Jeremiah Wright?
Many people will point to the “devout” Biden and Pelosi. Trust but verify.
Catholics and Jews suffer the most persecution of their beliefs of any religions it seems. Hate the leaderships of these religions, their hierarchy and bureaucracies, but their foundations and basic tenets and beliefs in God and Jesus on the Catholic side, are true. They differ but they are linked from day one. Christ was a Jew.
The Bible reveals the beginnings of the Christian Catholic faiths and the Jewish faith too. Why people vilify these two religions has been life long puzzling to me. God knows who truly believes in Him. In the end, that’s all that counts. Religion is just a gathering of like minded believers to honor God.
Why JD Vance chose to become a Catholic is for him to explain. There is nothing wrong with choosing a religion that one feels speaks to him, feels comfortable to be part of and worships God. Would he be questioned if he became Hindu like his wife?
Agree with Sundance that these events are too familiar….same after the tea party when all those so called new young bloods fighting for the American people were suddenly fielded. We can see what happened with nearly all of them.
There is and has been a massive propaganda campaign pushing for Vance across all digital media with nearly all major influencers. Do not under estimate how much information they have on each of us and how perfectly targeted the messages are.
When I saw the post on truth selecting Vance as VP I had the strangest feeling that Trump didn’t write it, that someone controlling the campaign did to short circuit any other choice.
In any case we are where we are, and there is only so much one man can do. He has fought hard and sacrificed much while many risk little and say much from the sidelines. Everyone of us must find it in ourselves to risk as much and to fight as hard as Trump has and is to recover our lost liberties.
Why don’t we just wait and see what happens. No point in getting worked up over things we can’t control. Enjoy your life.
Oh and your life will be better under Trump/Vance than Biden/Harris or whomever the Dems select.
Yes but with the understanding we the people be hyper vigilant on anything going on in our govt. by those who wish to destroy us. We know who they are. Vance may be one of their tools to get inside and control PTrump and us, but we can spot them and throw sand in their machine at every turn.
We won’t ever erase them completely but we can make it extremely difficult for them to try and control us, If we never lose our vigilance. It is a never ending job that we must pass down to each generation. This is where we have failed hugely, allowing our kids to be dumbed down, propagandized and made morally bankrupt through our lack of attention to what is going on in our schools and what they see on the tech venues and entertainment sites. A big mistake on our part. We can change that though. We must address that during a Trump administration.
Thank you Sundance for early navigation of the many twists and turns that lie ahead. You help keep many eyes open (including mine).
Peter Thiel grew and shelters 5 billion $ in his Roth IRA account – see link below. As Thiel’s power and name recognition grows, I predict he will agree to liquidate this loophole or donate some of the proceeds to charity and left wing causes to appease his critics.
https://equifund.com/blog/peter-thiel-roth-ira/
Looking back on some phases of my younger days , I now know I emerged only by the undeserved grace of God and the hand of the Holy Spirit. What I walked away from it with was a keen sense for men of the likes of Vance – narcs, snitches, con-men, grifters, leeches. They seemed to pop up out of nowhere, blending in at 50,000 feet but sticking out once you get close enough to look them in the eye. One-on-one everything is out of place. The sh’t eating grin, the misplaced reactions, the odd clumsiness in any situation.
Some like Obama are extremely evil, devious and able to reflect any and all around them. Others like Vance were bought on the clearance aisle.
Thank you Sundance.
Dare I say this: i would like to know who Sundance is. Without knowing his background, his antecedents, his real name, how he got where he is and why he is doing what he’s doing, I have no foundation on which to trust what he’s saying. And yet we all do.
First, everything Sundance has said and predicted has been spot on. So, no matter his background, his “non-pretending” analysis speaks for itself. Google Sundance and you will find the answers to your questions.
I don’t need to know any of those things. I recognize Truth when I see or hear it. And that’s where the trust arises with regard to SD. He speaks Truth. My soul recognizes that.
While you make an interesting point, there is really no comparison.
Sundance is not setting policy. He has not been foisted upon our nation to govern us in ways that (like them or not) will affect us for decades. He makes no decisions for us at all.
If you don’t trust what Sundance says, you can take it or leave it. Free will exists at the CTH.
Yes. I have thought the same thing. All this talk about name changes, yet we are presently conversing in a medium where everyone is anonymous behind their own meme. It occurs to me that the real leaders are the ones who are willing to build, put their own name on it (Trump), and stand behind it, better or worse.
Then don’t. You’re likely here because the party line doesn’t work for you. Do your own reasoning.
The person of Sundance is really immaterial. He has a track record. Use that. I don’t think anyone here buys any of his writing based on anything but his predictive history and light shining.
TRUTH is the foundation and is the only thing Sundance pursues.
Nothing else matters.
Those of us who have been here for years have a foundation. That you say you don’t speaks volumes.
The only question to ask yourself in order to trust someone or that someone’s message is whether what he/she says is true. You can only make that determination by looking within your own mind and soul without barriers manufactured and promulgated by outsiders. Sundance’s writings are his opinions and evaluations. It is up to each of us individually to either consider them thoughtfully or to simply ignore them. When such opinions conflict with your own opinions, you may want to consider what truths the messenger has delivered previously in order to determine if your own opinions are grounded in reality or is it your own opinions that should be questioned and tested.
That is how I approach the information and insights that Sundance shares with us so selflessly.
So, it would be best to not build a movement? It would be best to let them totally ignore you for 4 years, and let them plan to take complete control and destroy everything fought for? That thinking leads to ultimate defeat – a battle won, but the war lost.
NO! Best to build on a legacy. Will the money brokers have their influences? Of course! Money buys influence, BUT! They are working to try to buy influence, not totally controlling everything.
You would be happier if he chose someone who could not and would not carry on? THAT IS A LOSING STRAGETY!!!!
Biden is destroying this country and the world at an alarming rate. Is it possible that Trump picked Vance because Vance’s connections are the only way to get support from the people he needed to give him the best chance at winning the election. If Trump doesn’t win, this country is gone. I’m no fan of Vance and was very disappointed that he was picked, but Trump and his voters can make or break Vance’s political career. Trump is playing politics to win, i’m not as concerned with his VP pick as I am with who he picks to be in his Administration. Thats when we’ll know if things will change or not. Hopefully he doesn’t allow the “Deep State” to pick his Administration like last time. I don’t think he will, I think he’s learned a lot from his first term.
Biden and Vance and two-bit minions – puppets bought, sold and disposed of. The agenda to destroy America and freemen, are driven by an eternal evil to which Donald Trump and we deplorables are the existential threat.
My only comment on this installment is that we will worry about this much more intently in 2027-28. Vance (or whatever his real name is) will hopefully be kept at suitable distance from the Oval Office before then. Trust, but verify, continuously.
Our entire focus as Patriotic Americans right now needs to be on 2024 and early 2025.
PDJT is now a much wiser man than in 2016. He knows his enemies and the risks better now. He is much closer to God now IMO. All we can do is trust that he is given continued good and divine guidance as he selects his battlemates.
Let’s get him back through the WH gates first. And then we can build our beachhead from there.
Our entire focus needs to be on the House and Senate as well. Getting PTrump back is only one step in the restore America process and there are many wealthy evil power mongers working against him and us. They are clever, sneaky and will do anything they can to weasel themselves into a Trump administration just like last time.
There is a reason though, that God spared PTrumps life. We must have some faith in that sign. If we do not, then there isn’t much hope.
Oldersoul,
You make very good points.
First -things-first is good advice.
Now is the time to execute the MAGA / America First hostile takeover of the Executive Branch.
The successful Constitutional Do-Over of the Executive Branch will alter not only the physical battlefield but will result in the massive reduction of the numbers and the capabilities of the enemy.
Adjustments can be made as the events of 2024 / 2025 evolve.
I have said no Election for a yr now, and as of last Sat we know now they went as far as we thought, God intervened we dont know why except for DJT to now do the Lords Work . I do think he felt the hand of Jesus if not saw his Face to change DJT life. How will that work w being in the Swamp. I dont see how. I knew Vance ws hand picked and until Sundance today did i put that same as O sure enough is groomed for position. In our Face. I know Sundance you are or i thought are a Trump Supporter, where do you think we go now? I see no future except we watch our End play out, and the future is Jesus will return. thank you and have a nice day all
But life is not a static accumulation of facts. Life is a gestalt process where the end reality is always more than the sum of the parts. I am a former progressive who was red pilled. I am not that person I was in my beliefs and there are millions more like me. If I had to pass some sort of purity test I would have been cast out. That is antithetical to the new movement we see taking place.
If MAGA is a cult of personality, it is over in four years or less if the lame duck factor kicks in. If, instead, MAGA is “We the people” are in charge, and you the elected and non-elected are working for us, the movement will thrive. Historically, the actual greatest nation ever, prospered with the greatest personal freedom ever, when it’s people were faithful to the Lord our God. For about 400 years, “There was no king in Israel, each man did what was right in his own eyes.” That kind of political and economic freedom, coupled with accountability to the Lord morally including worship practices, was well known and imitated by the founders of this nation. Now our abusive central government spends about one third of our GDP, which is unsustainable and by its very nature, inflationary. And our uncivilized society promotes every kind of idolatry and immorality. We the people have seen the hand of God guiding our politics, will we the people follow or rebel? That is the question. This is not pessimistic for those who are part of the kingdom of God. The gates of hell will not prevail against us.
This is the first I’ve seen the end of the GOP convention.
What a somber, near-tragic mood they programmed into it, with a tearful Italian opera aria, and a quiet – hushed, even – audience.
Nessun Dorma was a message.
You are supposed to get the association with The Sum of All Fears by now.
Both because that’s one of the movie plots we are currently in, and because what happens to each bad guy at the end of the movie is a promise to those who would use WWIII to get the US and Russia to take each other out so the Nazis can win a final victory.
It is a promise that Justice is Coming.
There is a reason a certain letter of the alphabet repeatedly highlighted “Sum of All Fears” well over 5 years ago.
So you can get the significance of that ending song selection NOW.
It all connects.
Sorry, but anybody that changes their name so many times is not to be trusted.
Because his Mother remarried many times and he didn’t want his middle name to be named after his father’s side of the family? I think it was a wise choice to settle on his Grandparent’s last name in their honor since he would not be where he is today if not for them.