The group who promoted, pushed and ultimately influenced the JD Vance nomination consisted of: Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, David Sacks, Chamath Palihapitiya, Jacob Helberg and of course, Vivek Ramaswamy. On the inside of the Trump orbit, the network had Jason Miller and Donald Trump Jr also promoting JD Vance.
JD Vance was then invited to be an attendee at the June 6th San Francisco fundraiser for President Trump, hosted by Sacks and Palihapitiya, and that’s likely when the first one-on-one running mate discussion between President Trump and Senator Vance took place.
It is critical to remember these names because the Silicon Valley influence agents will soon be pushing their Trump-term policy agenda through Vice-President JD Vance.
We are starting to see the outlines of their JD Vance policy agenda, the points of their advocacy, starting with a carbon tax system.
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The global carbon tax program, a tax on your personal carbon footprint, is the system for the carbon trading platform (likely tied to your digital id). It is a large policy position of the World Economic Forum.
I’m not quite sure how well the carbon tax program would be received in the Appalachia range area. I digress.
Additionally, the group appear to be supporting JP Morgan’s CEO Jamie Dimon as Treasury Secretary in the second Trump administration.
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Timothy 1 :8-11
Vance accepted the nomination yesterday, and today this?
I don’t think Trump would like to be pushed around like this…
He should pass on Elon’s money. He doesn’t need it.
Musk money is going to voter turnout efforts.
A “properly applied” CO2 tax is complete utopian nonsense.
Just one more means of looting the US treasury and sticking their grubby hands into American taxpayers’ pockets. After they take all our cash, they’ll start on real estate estate and other assets. Let your ears keep on ringing with Klaus Schwab’s, “You will own nothing, and you will be happy” pronunciamento. Don’t think for a moment this is not the absolute, ultimate goal.
Well, I could think of one way it could be properly applied.
For every word uttered by a politician they have pay for the bad gas that comes out of their mouth!
Now why would Vance push this as his first act, right after his speech last night all about American workers, etc.? Don’t make sense. So I look for the old wisdom – Trace the money trail. (or Money Talks.)
I hope Trump knows better, and getting wiser.
Read the snake poem a few more time President Trump and don’t negotiate all away.
He isn’t. It is Elon’s “xtweet”.
W T *actual* F
Charlie Foxtrot.
Not if it’s deliberate, and controlled?
Please Elon, explain how taxing people into shitty lifestyles and giving up all our creature comforts is going to save the planet. Asshole. Seems the globalists have so trashed their brand and the democrat party they now see an opening to attempt to take over MAGA to continue driving their policies. No thanks.
I think you are so correct. They are attempting to take over MAGA now. They think their money will override our votes.
There was a big change right after the NY conviction. All of a sudden, they’re on board and lining up their want lists. President Trump admires successful businessmen. I get that we might not like everything it takes to have a successful administration, but this worries me.
There is no ” votes “.
That’s the point. There won’t be votes again until the people who committed treason in dc are put to death..
Giving up our creature comforts to ensure his enhanced lifestyle forever.
What’s NATO’s carbon footprint, who seems to want permanent war with Russia? How about the US governments number one priority of ending Ukraine for Ukrainians? Not only does Elon’s space program produce carbon, it may harm the stratosphere. Bit coin mining. Massive databases for total surveillance and control. And last but not least the total malarky of the global ruling parasitic class itself–hardly a paradigm of conservation. Make your own sacrifices, billionaires, and leave MAGA out of it.
‘By May 31, 1764, the Boston merchants published on the first page of the Massachusetts Gazette their fear that the Sugar Act would lead to even more taxes, such as a tax on land, or produce grown, or anything they use, that the people would be reduced from subjects to slaves.’
in 1764 they were afraid the government would eventually try to tax the land and anything we do. Since they have done all that now it’s the AIR YOU BREATHE!
https://mundane-astrology-notes.blogspot.com/2024/01/law-for-profits.html
I think our founding fathers saw things with clear eyes. This is slavery.
To the betrayed inhabitants of the city and colony of New-York
–Alexander McDougall, 1769
In a day when the minions of tyranny and despotism in the mother country and the colonies, are indefatigable in laying every snare that their malevolent and corrupt hearts can suggest, to enslave a free people…
“The British soldiers already angry with the New York Assembly for not complying with the Quartering Act of 1765 were not going to tolerate a symbol of colonial opposition to Parliament’s authority in their midst.
“On June 4, 1766, the New York Sons of Liberty gathered in a field, later known as the Commons, to celebrate the birthday of the King and the repeal of the Stamp Act.
“…Later in the day, another pole, bearing the inscription, “King, Pitt, and Liberty.” was erected; it was the city’s first Liberty Pole.”
https://allthingsliberty.com/2014/10/the-battle-of-golden-hill-six-weeks-before-the-boston-massacre/
You can’t urinate or defecate without being taxed.
The criminals in dc all have to go
“…Policy Proposals…”
Lord have mercy, this is the RNC’s TV show and sadly we’re not gonna get it all. This is how you get Haley, DeSantis, Pompeo, Gingrich etc. as speakers…spit! But keep in mind, JD Vance’s power is what President Trump allows, he’s not my choice, but President Trump is, I trust him, he’s earned it.
“Trust but verify”
You’ve spent do much time.defending, we all have, that no one is looking directly at him..
This is not how things turn out well..
America is OURS. Not one person.
elon, the billionaire lefty
I tried to tell my son about EM. He thinks because he gave PDJT an all this money, he’s cool. We need to,talk son! Lol
Anyone know who Steve Bannon was promoting for VP?
I don’t believe I ever heard Steve Bannon promote anyone for VP. I usually listen to all four hours.
Al Gore must have smiled at the news.
2028 officially starts November 6. 😏
How bad is it that I’m already thinking about researching “Can a President fire his Vice President?” 🙂
I think through impeachment which would mean both House and Senate majorities would need to be on board.
President Trump does not need to fire his VP.
All he has to do is give him nothing to do.
An idle mind is the devil’s workshop.
ME too, I was actually going even further with “Can a Nominee change out his VP nomination?
It’s like fighting the weeds in the yard. You can never completely eliminate them.
Epic
Well said
No surprise. Remember, for many years a quarter or more of Elon’s top line revenue was from carbon credits and EV subsidies. This benefits him and his Teslas. Elon does some “good” things like opening up X and “supporting” President Trump. Kudos for that. But, for the bad, stupid ideas like a carbon tax he is not good. When he does something that helps great, when he doesn’t take him to task. He is not a savior but in it for himself along with the other “there are trillions at stake” globalists.
Retired Magistrate here: Five days ago President Trump survived an assassin’s bullet and we were all so grateful. More and more information is coming out that it was probably an inside job; however, President Trump was protected by GOD.
Rather than all the speculation that President Trump has made poor choices, etc. let’s hear what President Trump has to say tonight when he gives his vision of the future for our country. Just because certain individuals have ideas about what they would like to have to enhance their bottom line, doesn’t mean that President Trump doesn’t see through it. President Trump listens to a lot of ideas; however, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he will go along with them.
Everyone just chill out and let’s see what happens. I am still thanking GOD that President Trump survived the hit job.
Thank you.
Yes, let’s chill for a moment rather than air the first prediction on paper to be able to reference, “See, I told you so even before convention was over.” Our man is not in the White House yet.
“Don’t clean out your desk just yet, Mrs. Vance! If the Dems can change candidates, SO CAN I!”
Enter VP candidate Dr. Ben Carson.
Give it up.
I wish. He was my top pick.
As was pointed out a couple of days ago, Dr. Carson tried to make priority to fight abortion as campaign issue. President Trump has made clear to support reversal of Roe BACK to states. This is good at this time as gotta first get our country back from the operating crime syndicate government. With Roe returned to states, many abortions already stopped.
Oh I’m sure that will go over well with Jesus when you all stand before Him. “We had to get our country back at the cost of those babies behind you.”
For those who are Christians, you are a citizen of Heaven before America. This earth is not our home. We are in the world, not of it. I love America, but I love my Savior more. My God IS love and His Kingdom is eternal. This world is temporal.
There is no justification for endorsing or voting for someone who will justify “just a few more babies” just to get into office. No. If you stand for God, He will stand for you. If doing right by Him means America goes down (and only He knows for sure if that will happen or if it is His will or not), then, as much as I wish it weren’t so, so be it. Never would our Lord condone the death of babies to save a nation. Maybe, just maybe, standing for God’s principles is what WILL save this nation. I have an extremely difficult time believing going against it for “the long term gain” will. And why lose your soul to save the world?
As a long time reader here, I have sat back and watched in amazement how many people on this site saying they are Christians have been willing to vote for Trump which equates to the sacrifice the lives of the unborn and the commitment Trump has made about doing just that, for the sake of saving America. I can’t, in good conscience remain silent about this any longer.
Trump is a man, not to be worshipped and not our savior, and the willingness of people to gloss over his willingness to save the country on the backs of the unborn for votes is not okay, and definitely not for Christians. Period.
If I am wrong, I pray God show me the light. But this is what I believe in my heart, and what I believe is supported by God’s Word and the documented life of Jesus Christ.
Also, please note. I have been and continue to pray for Trump, his family, his supporters, all of you I have come to know and care about on this site, the lost, and America, from deep in my heart—that we all would know the will of God and have His help to fulfill it. I wish to God that Trump wasn’t taking the stand he is, but he is, and that is wrong. I pray Trump sees it, that his heart changes, first for his own sake, and for our country and the world; And, mostly for God, Who loves us all.
You have to admit though we’ve been through the wringer. Since 2015. We are extremely wary now, and for good reason. People we thought were Trump allies turned out to be traitors.
Nothing will stop me from voting for Trump and all of my other Republican candidates on the ballot. But I won’t be a Vance fan unless he demonstrates complete and total loyalty to Trump.
Yes, we can be enthusiastic about PDJT and MAGA and still be wary and suspicious about infiltrators from the globalist and Chinese Communist forces. We can walk and chew gum at the same time, and even carry a rifle. Amazing 👍
What? You have the temerity to share some wisdom?
Show off!
I’m with you!
You’re right. It seems awfully convenient that all of a sudden people are trying to discourage us from voting for JD Vance. I’ve seen all kinds of different articles about the wife being an agent of the British and Bill Gates and they have both miraculously achieved a lot in a short time.
Although all this information seems rather suspicious, I wonder if the propaganda machine is rolling as fast as it can to discourage us from voting for President Trump. Certainly can’t have that. They didn’t succeed in killing him, so they have to turn us away somehow. Keep us home from the voting booth.
It never seems to occur to our resident psop rangers that if the Left wanted to wreck havoc here it would not be from trolls infiltrating the site and convincing people that MAGA is a bad thing. It will be from “Treepers” admonishing us not to vote for a candidate until they are 100% in line with ALL MAGA policies. Just ONE or TWO election cycles will go by and we will never be able to undo what a decade of super majority Democrat rule would accomplish.
Not only smart , but you have been on the Site a long time.
Marcia- can’t thank you enough for your post! I am sick and tired of watching the damn GOP / Republicans turning on each other, year after year. We haven’t had time to fully savor the miracle we just witnessed and already the in-fighting has started.
Notice how the DemonRats ALWAYS stick together, no matter what.
Pay attention to where the “in-fighting” is coming from. Add to that-
What is the POINT?
President Trump made HIS choice. We either Trust him or not. Reality Check.
Free Choice in the USA – I’m taking ALL the gratuitous whines as “don’t vote for this ticket”.
So be it for them – NOT for me. I TRUST DJT. Period.
No body is forced to vote for the ticket if they hate it.
The Leftists and Elite Establishment are hating it even more. Join them.
We go to war with the army we have – we should be both vigilant regarding concerns expressed but trust in our CiC in battle.
However Trump should have known these ideas before he chose Vance. I’m grateful he survived but still skeptical.
Who says he did/does not know these ideas, addressed them, tested Vance, and chose him??? Oh, of course he just chose him based on stupidity and being controlled because we have been told there is a Team Vance! Of course.
What are you blithering about.
Thanks, I needed that
Thanks Retired Magistate, I kinda said the same thing earlier. You just do it so much better. Be well.
Amen!
Strange what is going on with this thread. So many responding as if this IS if fact Team JD Vance . Like, poof! Team Trump gone. Really bizarre tonight here. You know, President Trump has said the same thing over and over for like forty+ years and now he is gonna change his mind? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guess I’m a climate heretic as I believe the atmosphere does not have near enough CO2 to maximize the Earth’s biodiversity.
I’m with you.
I thought we had to have lots and lots of it.
and oil is NOT a “fossil fuel.” Not from dinos or dead forests, it’s a mineral like shale. There is no shortage.
And, it’s renewable. Just ask the Russians. They’ve known for years! But, we have the oil companies….
Might be a technicality to call it fossil carbon only in the sense it has been stuck in a deep carbon cycle locked into the crust and mantle for potentially aeons beforehand. And absolutely nothing to do with life was required for it.
Need only look to Titan where it literally rains complex hydrocarbons as proof of natural abiotic processes.
Jiminy crickets…Can we just focus on getting Trump elected first before we start worrying about the tiny possibility that some dumb carbon tax might be imposed? All of a sudden Sundance has turned into Debbie Downer.
What happened to President Trump makes “optimal choices.” I do want to hear the wide variety of views from fellow treepers. Some of the comments the last few days though are fatiguing in their relentless aggression. We use to collectively call that over assertiveness Concern Trolling.
Momentum and positive energy matter. This is a great convention. Have some fun, live your best life. At some point our Ultimate American Badass PDJT will certainly need us at his back should politicians do political things, but I get the feeling He’s Got This.
Be glad that we are very fortunate to have Sundance to turn to. He is a treasure and is doing all he can to keep us informed of what’s happening or about to happen.
He is not distracting us from our focus on getting President Trump elected.
Sundance reminds me of that guy on the Ed Sullivan show who could keep a bunch of plates spinning on the ends of sticks. Only difference is Sundance could do it one handed.
No, Sundance is no Debby Downer. He doesn’t live in a pretend world. He sees events and people for what they are. I for one have no intention of being a pretender.
I was accused today by a Vance supporter of trying to “dig up dirt” on Vance and was told that I should just accept Trunmps choice and move on
Wow
That’s like telling me to “stop asking questions”
Really similar to “stop talking”
Really ticked me off. And this from a fellow conservative.
Always question. ALWAYS!
Sundance wrote a whole article on the dangers of picking someone like Vance.
TLDR; MAGA dies in it’s tracks.
Please file Sundance’s post under seeing things as they are, not as you wish them to be.
there are “regulations” on how to build anything
and now they want to “tax” the outcome of those “regulations”
but instead of people suppressing taxes…
i never hear anyone wanting to just reinvent something that is “supposedly” spewing carbon so it spews less.
Just “tax more” to spend more. which by the way is not MAGA so i doubt Trump will allow any such thing.
but with that said…..
enough with the crazy train!
Carbon is NOT the worlds problem
The globalist gangsters are.
#DrainTheSwamp
I always thought it was interesting that if global warming is such a major problem and we’re all gonna die, then why don’t they just implement rationing? And don’t let people buy their way out of it. Force the wasteful wealthy people to use or emit less. I’ll bet I use or emit 1/1000th of what liberal tool George Clooney does.
I read something where Taylor Swift said she has paid enough for the carbon she uses in her private plane to cover two years. Yeah, well you are a billionaire. What about your average American?
“Too bad, so sad.” That is the attitude of the haves toward the have-nots. I cannot imagine President Trump going along with this.
I’m reminded, since I first saw Taylor as a teenager on the riverfront stages in Nashville trying to break into the biz, that we have nots have made her and every other have into that have. Our choices, either those made willingly or under duress. Taxes tend to fall into the latter category. We pay those under fear of arrest, imprisonment and death. Most won’t admit it but in reality that’s how it is.
Hence, part of why our Founders had a revolution that sent scores of humans to God. That’s reality when humans seeks to dominate and control other humans. Those humans make those choices. Choices have consequences.
I can’t recall if I may vote for a presidential candidate but write in the VP.
I’m looking at my 2020 ballot and there was no option to separate Pence from Trump.
Dang I find this amusing on many levels.
That said, I actually support your desire to express your allegiances to the 2nd, 3rd or deeper levels.
Were I a malevolent sort, I could even see how this expands the attack surface for manipulating election outcomes.
Nope, but you can choose the Ticket you want or no ticket at all. Your free choice.
I’m ok with a carbon tax. But just tax the Chinese commie type of carbon (an import tax based on carbon energy content will work). Being as the Chinese have too many coal fires and such, this might actually help the environment a bit.
Nice idea, since they dirty up the planet the most!!!
I have a different take. Let’s set up the tax like this:
Whew … I dodged that bullet!
My 32′ Luhrs runs on diesel.
What about a 40 foot SAILBOAT?
Since so many products are made in CHINA and the Chinese are the number one user of coal for generating electricity … a carbon tax aimed at them would, maybe, finally point the finger at what the Chinese have been doing. I guarantee something like way under 10% of everyone is aware of the Chinese – coal connection.
Your idea is such genius that most people will think it came directly from President Trump!
I said last night that Vance is Pence 2.0, and I got push back. Feeling pretty vindicated right now.
I was hoping against hope for Ben. Worry about 2028 later. The MAGA lites would reveal themselves over the next 3 years if Ben wanted to step down.
Least likely to be a snake.
*sigh*
Ben Carson is my number one pick.
Why? Because you were told in a title to a post that Elon IS Vance and Team Trump because he said so? Because Title of post infers because Elon says it, Vance will push? Why? Because Elon speaks for and controls Vance as inferred in title and thus President Trump will be (or is compromised)?
Oh yes, heresay and opinion vindicate you.
After JV spends lots of time campaigning in the rust belt with working class people to win this election we will see what happens. Nothing we can do about it now so let’s believe he will be successful. 2028 is four years away and everyone has a wish list.
On the bright side this is just a suggestion. While it is unlikely that Trump will take up the green agenda, a tweet like this could result in greater donations and greater support from fence sitters on the left.
JD questioned if believes in God, questioned if he was gay, doesn’t eat meat, doesn’t understand the significance of a red tie, and apparently advocates for a global taxation scheme to save the world from a nonexistent threat.
Hopefully the JD influencers will take a break and let’s continue to shine light on the production that is JD Vance.
Groomed by the techno elite, the PayPal Mafia (CIA, DARPA, Pentagon)
And he cried his eyes out before the speech!
Not good.
Has anyone posted where Vance himself advocates for global taxation scheme?
The indoor co2 ppm would improve if buildings had more fresh air brought in. But because, first Obama and now Biden, have purposely made energy so expensive, it is not economical to do that without utilizing an air-to-air heat exchanger, which is also expensive to purchase and operate.
As far as atmospheric co2 goes, when it rises, plants grow faster and consume it. The problem solves itself.
Where has he been!
“Just a tinny, tiny little tax, that’s all. No one will even notice…”
Carbon taxes? No. Not just no, but HELL NO!!
I’m 100% certain that Elon knows that CO2 does not drive the climate, and that the Earth is ow on CO2. The atmosphere needs more if plants are to survive the next glaciation. We almost didn’t survive the last one.
But Musk must take and hammer on that position because of the Tesla and the battery business. So, Elon’s gonna do what Elon has to do. Fine. I don’t agree, but fine. That’s the EV biz.
We just have to make clear to our representatives that a carbon tax is a no-go if they want to remain as our representatives. Elon can ask and lobby($$$) for a carbon tax. It’s up to Americans that know the score (scam) to put the necessary pressure on our reps to make sure no carbon tax is imposed.
Make Firewood Great Again. I know I will. I already do.
CO2 is a serious problem, LOL during the Cambrian period it was 15 times higher than it is today. Those damned Cambrian SUV’s. CO2 is a good thing. It makes plants grow better and faster and coincidently so does warmer weather. We have record high world populations and need to grow more food. Thank god for a warming climate, due to Milankovitch cycles and the ending of the mini ice age.
Yes.
Dragonflies with a 3 foot wingspan!
This is the best explanation of real purpose behind the carbon tax – the money flow. Thanks for posting Rocket.
This would punish the blue collar workers more than anyone. As someone who lives in a rural farming community, this would go over like a lead balloon.
They can plant more trees and stop exhaling. That would make the world better for the rest of us.
How are they going to make money off of that? 🙂
If you are interested in the effects of regulation on business, particularly EPA regulations, you need to watch this. It’s a guy in the car business describing what has been done to Chrysler in recent years, particularly to the benefit of Musk. I am a fan of Chrysler when it was a US company, and a fan of Musk, but this surprised me. Look past the car enthusiast angle, it’s not what’s important.
As unhappy as I was about the Vance selection, after thinking about it for a bit, it actually makes sense from a strategic campaign aspect.
I certainly have never expected JoeMentia* to be the DNC nominee in ’24. I didn’t expect him to last much past the 2nd year of his term. Cackles, though, turned out to be MUCH worse than expected. So, they’ve ridden with him up to now. A further wrinkle for the Dems is that Doc Jill has turned out to be a much tougher nut to crack than they thought as well. If I, and some others can noodle this out, so can Trump. Which leads me to the Vance pick.
Trump doesn’t think politically, he thinks business strategically. Which is partly why he baffles poli-sci types, and also why he commits what often look like errors, many of which don’t end up that way.
If I understand the political finance laws correctly, JoeMentia*’s campaign stash can only be moved easily to Cackles if Joe steps aside. Aside from the political suicide of a Dem stepping in front of the Trump train at this moment, the Dems would have a funding problem on their hands. They would need Super PAC money. Trump, by choosing Vance, has just removed a whole bunch of that money from their grasp. Silicon Valley money would normally flow, in large part, to democrats. Not now. In theory.
In short, Trump saw the removal of Biden coming and made this pick as a way to try and force the Dems into Cackles, just as beatable.
Which is all to say, I’m not worried about a carbon tax. I cannot see Trump being on board with that, and if he is, I’ve totally misread him all these years. Once Trump wins back the WH, he doesn’t have to cater to ANYONE, because he can’t run again.
Will the plan play out, if I’m right? Who knows? But, if what Trump did with Pence is any guide for how he’ll use Vance, I expect Vance to be used as the cheerleader and back benched on secondary things.
CBDC, social credit and carbon taxes, etc. are for after PDJT when the globalists return to their mission in control of the whole smash. If they can push some of it through with him in command, bonus.
I’ve long seen PDJT as a canary, someone sent to us by God to warn us. The rest is up to us.
if you got to manipulate to get in… do it.
once he is in… He can stabilize the country, rebalance the foreign policy, and then attack.
These carbon tax proponents are the same people who forced us to inhale our own carbon dioxide exhalations during covid by mandating masks. CO2 is necessary for life.
So, Blackrock out, Musk in.
We’ll flood the White House with letters cards and calls till no end if any of this WEF s#*t is being proposed.
There are 2 letters to Timothy, be more specific.
Welp, that sure was fast. The kiddies have been frolicking the last 48 hours, too, and suddenly reality strikes.
If oligarch scumbags give tens of millions of dollars to a guy, it’s for a reason. They are making a purchase. It’d be best if we all finally learned this.
My suggestion was that if Trump cut a deal to take one of the 3 VP selections the oligarchs wanted, the guy should be locked in the mushroom closet for 4 years. That still holds. VP’s are not needed. The oligarchs got what they wanted. The deal was consummated. Now they can eff off. The country deserves more than their weird schemes and profiteering.
Elon musk committing $45 million every month to help President Trump definitely lost himself some liberal customers.
This might just be Elon Musks way of trying to get back some of those greeny earth worshiping customers that are upset with him.
I guess it’s actually a blessing.
Keep us on our toes.
Complacency helped get us here.
Sundance, you convinced me! Vance is bad news, I am voting for the the democratic nominee.
Everyone needs to accept criticism of Vance. Just remember what happened with Sessions, Tillerson, Pence, Pompeo, Haley, DeSantis, etc etc. It’s not bad to be wary.
I’m not, but can understand your feelings about the “ convinced me”.
I feel like this is a refuge on fire and burning down.
The question is WHY?
We NEED President Trump.
So does this mean that we are voting for the lesser of two evils with the bromance Vance boys?
Here we go!
No there it went.
Ask Bix Weir about Jamie Dimon
God Help Us
Eff them all except Trump.
That’s pretty much my attitude now 🙂
Unfortunately, his string of horrible personnel decisions remains untarnished by success.
Maybe so The People can see all the traitors, I think so.
This is what I believe. All prior were exposed, and he made sure Pence destroyed himself, along with DeSantis.
Sadly it seems that if we want Trump we have take the rest that I want to say…………………. to.