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Supreme Court Rules President Trump Has Absolute Immunity for Official Actions Within Constitutional Authority

…“The President is not above the law. But Congress may not criminalize the President’s conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the Executive Branch under the Constitution.”… 

In a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court of the United Stated ruled that presidents have “absolute immunity” for official “actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority.”  [SEE RULING HERE] Also, “official acts” cannot be used as evidence against the president in a criminal case.

As expected, the high court instructed the lower trial courts to hold specific evidentiary hearings on each anti-Trump criminal count, and determine which counts, if any, related to official or unofficial acts.

The Supreme Court is essentially telling the lower courts to go back and look at each citation and review which claims are official acts and which claims related to unofficial acts. The Supreme Court ruled that presidents may not have immunity for non-official conduct. However, when the judicial review cannot differentiate, the court cannot look at motives for the decisions.

“In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives,” the Court ruled. “Whenever the President and Vice President discuss their official responsibilities, they engage in official conduct.”

“The indictment’s allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the Vice President to take particular acts in connection with his role at the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct, and Trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct,” the Court added.

“The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law. But under our system of separated powers, the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts,” the Court concluded. “That immunity applies equally to all occupants of the Oval Office.”

The Supreme Court held Monday not only that Donald Trump could not be prosecuted for official acts but that those acts could not be used as evidence of a crime.

“That proposal threatens to eviscerate the immunity we have recognized,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote. “It would permit a prosecutor to do indirectly what he cannot do directly — invite the jury to examine acts for which a President is immune from prosecution to nonetheless prove his liability on any charge.”

Chief Justice Roberts wrote the opinion for the majority. This ruling will certainly delay any further court action by Special Counsel Jack Smith during the DC Lawfare trial, until after the election in November.

The WASHINGTON POST is not happy…. “A few key points:

  • The court ruled that Trump is absolutely immune from prosecution for any conduct “involving his discussions with Justice Department officials” — a significant segment of his federal indictment. For instance, this would seem to take off the table Trump’s interactions with Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark, a key figure who has been indicted in Georgia alongside Trump, as well as other top Justice Department officials telling Trump his voter-fraud theories were wrong.
  • It ruled that he is presumed immune from prosecution for pressuring then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election on Jan. 6, 2021, because Trump’s acts “involve official conduct.” It said the burden is on the government to prove that prosecuting Trump for this wouldn’t “pose any dangers of intrusion on the authority and functions of the Executive Branch.”
  • It left open the possibility that Trump can be prosecuted for other actions, particularly those with regard to people outside the executive branch and in the states. It ruled that “this alleged conduct cannot be neatly categorized as falling within a particular Presidential function.”

All of which means some of Trump’s conduct can still be prosecuted, but some cannot. And figuring out what can and cannot be is still to be determined.

The other crucial point is this: The court ruled not only that Trump can’t be prosecuted for certain conduct, but also that conduct for which he is immune can’t even be used as evidence against him. So, his interactions with Justice Department officials, for instance, can’t be used to establish a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election. (link)

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ElGato
ElGato
July 1, 2024 2:29 pm

Glorious! The wins are starting to stack. However, the next few months are going to be very dangerous.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:34 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Sans aucun doute.

Vive la conspiration !

 Ou pas…

ed
ed
July 1, 2024 4:31 pm
Reply to  Maquis

What he said !!

Maquis
July 1, 2024 6:45 pm
Reply to  ed

Ouais !

Brenda
Brenda
July 1, 2024 2:50 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Yes.

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 2:57 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Here’s to our President Trump!!!

We raise our glasses to him for this righteous victory!!

Cheers!!

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And to the rest? 😎

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R.J.
R.J.
July 1, 2024 3:21 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

You have made my day! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and pictures.

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 3:40 pm
Reply to  R.J.

I had it chilled and ready, R.J. 😊

Had to go out and buy the smelling salts…a bit pricey as they came from London…

But SO worth it!! 😉

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 3:22 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

Hmmm,…. will TIME now follow this:
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With this Again?:

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Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 3:44 pm
Reply to  DaPicayune

I do wish it!!! Wonderful!

I pray for it!!! 🙏🏻

As well as this…

For the sake of our nation, our Republic.

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DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

(TY) So Beautiful,…. “so it is written, so let it be done!

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 3:53 pm
Reply to  DaPicayune

Amen and AMEN, my friend 🙏🏻

Diceanna
Diceanna
July 1, 2024 3:34 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

Humpft… So it was you who stole my smelling salts.!😃

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 3:47 pm
Reply to  Diceanna

Haha!! Apologies…figured there would be others who needed them more than you, girl 😎

Deborah D
Deborah D
July 1, 2024 6:31 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

May God bless our real President Donald J. Trump!! Celebrate Independence Day with a song in your heart and thankful praise of our Lord Jesus Christ!!

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 8:11 pm
Reply to  Deborah D

Yes ma’am, Deborah 🙏🏻

PatriotDJinKY
PatriotDJinKY
July 1, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

“We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces, singing: Whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!”

Last edited 1 year ago by PatriotDJinKY
Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 8:10 pm
Reply to  PatriotDJinKY

Beautiful, Patriot!!!

huecowacko
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Dangerous and must be executed without complacency.

buckeye
buckeye
July 1, 2024 9:01 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Wasn’t it a glorious weekend? I felt as good as I’ve felt in a long time on Friday.

Mrsqt
Mrsqt
July 1, 2024 10:11 pm
Reply to  ElGato

Danger, violence, Orange Man Bad, and some big bad threat thereof is all they ever had – and all they ever will have – and, PRAISE THE LORD, it ain’t working.

No matter what they do… there are STILL MORE OF US than there are of them!

Brando
Brando
July 1, 2024 2:29 pm

Thank you, Justice Alito. Thank you, Justice Thomas. PATRIOTS, LIKE ALWAYS. “WHEN HE WINS” – time MAGAzine.

The Demon Slick
The Demon Slick
July 1, 2024 3:08 pm
Reply to  Brando

The Chevron defense decision was correctly decided and long overdue. However it will handicap the next administration. The presidential immunity decision will also keep Biden and crew out of jail. A decision against the appointment of Jack Smith will mean that Trump will need congressional approval to go after the people who went after him. Celebrate as you wish, but realize that a lot of deep state moves are being deployed to handicap President Trump once he assumes office.

Joe F
Joe F
July 1, 2024 3:15 pm

Most of Biden’s criminal activity does not occur under his presidency.

California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 3:26 pm
Reply to  Joe F

Yep!

A.R. Roberts
A.R. Roberts
July 1, 2024 3:33 pm
Reply to  Joe F

Is receiving bribes from foreign gov’s considered official business?

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:55 pm
Reply to  A.R. Roberts

Nope

Zoe
Zoe
July 1, 2024 3:21 pm

I understand what you are saying but revenge has a way of backfiring on you. President Trump need to work smart not on vengeance because vengeance doesn’t belong to humans only to God who is absolutely right in his judgements and will avenge all wrongdoing. One take away from this entire stolen elections is the way of the transgressor is hard. If those demonic democrats want to keep power illegally it will be very difficult form them in the long run.

Articman
July 1, 2024 3:40 pm
Reply to  Zoe

If good men dont do the right thing when they can EVIL will prevail.

NurseSusy
NurseSusy
July 1, 2024 3:54 pm
Reply to  Zoe

You forget that they are not after Trump, but after us. His vengeance will not be for him, but vengeance for us, just think of all the unjust actions by the FBI toward innocent people, all the suffering from “mass shooting” arranged by the FBI, the molested gymnastics girls covered up by the FBI, the illegal aliens killing and looting in our country by Mayorkas, and so on. The President will get vengeance for all of us who are suffering from Obama/Biden fecklessness.

Parker
Parker
July 1, 2024 7:15 pm
Reply to  Zoe

You really need to re-think your position on this claim. Magistrates and Civil Authorities are appointed by God to do precisely, the exacting of judgement upon men who violate the properly adjudicated laws. Imposing just punishment for unlawful acts is neither revenge nor is it vengeance.
Romans: 13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Unconquered
Unconquered
July 1, 2024 8:17 pm
Reply to  Parker

So, the war for independence was wrong?

bradk77
bradk77
July 1, 2024 8:05 pm
Reply to  Zoe

Traitors need to be prosecuted or they will continue their evil behaviors.

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:06 pm
Reply to  Zoe

It’s called justice and G-d states that justice is necessary for a good leader

OldWarHorse
OldWarHorse
July 2, 2024 1:17 am
Reply to  Zoe

When Dr. Phil asked PDJT about revenge PDJT said that his success would be his revenge.

alan
alan
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm

Their crimes are manifold and they were not POTUS…
Hillary etc will fear justice in their dreams more than ever.

New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
July 1, 2024 3:26 pm

I bet you’d complain if they hung you with a new rope!

The Demon Slick
The Demon Slick
July 1, 2024 9:28 pm

Yes of course.

Intense
Intense
July 1, 2024 11:30 pm

Say it was all stiff and scratchy.

A.R. Roberts
A.R. Roberts
July 1, 2024 3:31 pm

However, many of the past insane regulations by the deep state can be undone, but it will be a long legal road.

Jonrilus
Jonrilus
July 1, 2024 3:37 pm

It will handicap any administration if Congress does not do the job for which it is elected – legislating. Because the executive branch no longer has an easy work-around for a recalcitrant Congress. But, and it feels ironic to say it, that is a good thing.

The system of checks and balances relies on each branch of government being able, in proper circumstances, of acting as a check on the other two. Congress has to do its job or the President must use the bully pulpit to threaten their tenures. But enough of the “pen and phone” imperial presidency. Barack imbibed too much during his third world upbringing that has no place in American society.

Articman
July 1, 2024 3:38 pm

100 % agree so much damage has been done. At least 1 major issue a day for the last 3 years when we do get a tiny bone people go nuts over it. All I see is a corrupt politic against its people. Come Lord Jesus.

Kevin
Kevin
July 1, 2024 3:48 pm

He can fire those that he wishes to. Most of the heads serve at the pleasure of the President. Anyone he wishes to appoint on a temporary basis to replace those fired, can serve for 120 without Senate approval. One can do a lot of house cleaning in 120 days.

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 3:51 pm

Justice Thomas raised the question of the legitimacy of Jack Smith’s appointment in this ruling.

The enemy, cornered and outraged now, will double down certainly.

But for this we will take the moment and cheer the rafters.

And praise Almighty God Who, I am convinced, is moving mountains 🙏🏻

Ma McGriz
Ma McGriz
July 1, 2024 4:04 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

“Justice Thomas raised the question of the legitimacy of Jack Smith’s appointment in this ruling.”

That’s another shoe we’re waiting to hear drop.

Coupled with that pending contempt business facing granny g, this oughta be knottin’ up a lot of knickers.

God is so good.

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 4:16 pm
Reply to  Ma McGriz

Their best laid plans have run into potholes, Ma.

He IS so good.

Pray His protection… July 11 is upcoming.

Reynolds88
Reynolds88
July 2, 2024 12:07 am
Reply to  Ma McGriz

It takes one good man (or one courageous woman like the beautiful Anna Paulina Luna, https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/spineless-republicans-fail-again-rep-luna-softens-approach/) to make the difference. At least Rep Luna stood up and made mealy Mike Johnson take notice.

Just as you and I both know, that even after losing the VP race in 2008, Sarah Palin moved the dial. God is good, (and he is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves…)

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Ma McGriz
Ma McGriz
July 2, 2024 3:01 pm
Reply to  Reynolds88

Amen, dear brother. She sure did, and I feel sure her mojo’s still working.

So glad to see ya.

Hugs and best wishes.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:54 pm

No, it won’t keep them out of jail, it will put them in it.

Also, the other decision on the Fed today, holding that basically there is no statute of limitations for challenging a harmful regulation if you are a newly formed entity => combined with Jarkesy and Loper Bright => open heavy fire on the administrative state, incoming.

All good.

Brando
Brando
July 1, 2024 9:18 pm

“In politics, NOTHING happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was PLANNED that way”. I’m FINE with that.

Chooseamerica
Chooseamerica
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  Brando

You gotta love Clarence Thomas.

” A private citizen can’t charge a President with anything.”

Take that Jack Smith and smoke it! Better yet, go home to The Hague. You’re not welcome here.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:32 pm

Jacksputin hardest hit.

New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
July 1, 2024 3:27 pm
Reply to  Maquis

” I drink alooone , Yeaaah with nobody else!”- George Thorogood

Jack Craine
Jack Craine
July 1, 2024 2:35 pm

Early July 4th!

paul hlavate
paul hlavate
July 1, 2024 2:36 pm

How about Barretts add on

oleollo
oleollo
July 1, 2024 2:53 pm
Reply to  paul hlavate

I predict that in some future interview she will cite Day O’Connor as her role model.

California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 3:26 pm
Reply to  oleollo

…more likely Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg!

Greg McKinney
Greg McKinney
July 1, 2024 3:30 pm
Reply to  oleollo

or Ginsberg

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:56 pm
Reply to  paul hlavate

There’s a 5 person majority without her.

Irrelevant.

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:09 pm
Reply to  paul hlavate

She was definitely as unforced error. I pray PDJT gets a chance to right that.

cheering4America
cheering4America
July 1, 2024 2:36 pm

Anyone else perusing the comments on lefty sites concerning this decision? INSANE level of gaslighting. Also, if you made the same comments and switched President Trump’s name to [p]resident Biden’s I’m sure their horror would be non-existent.

Simpleton
Simpleton
July 1, 2024 2:37 pm

And as usual most of the female judges took the leftist lawfare side in dissenting on a ruling upholding constitutional law.

This time Soyomayor, Kagan, and Brown.

Their political bias fits the female socialist extremist stereotype, ruled by over-emotionality in putting the tribalist collective bullying aims above all.

The stereotypes about females are based in truth, although there are exceptions.

Last edited 1 year ago by Simpleton
Eric V
Eric V
July 1, 2024 3:25 pm
Reply to  Simpleton

Name one.

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:11 pm
Reply to  Eric V

I’m a woman and I’d have concurred 100% with the guys. Ye, I’m the exception.

California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 3:29 pm
Reply to  Simpleton

All seven Bimbo judges were 100% wrong… and not even close.

We could have hired seven high school dropouts and gotten better decisions!

Where do they find these idiot bimbos from to make judges????

Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 4:26 pm
Reply to  Simpleton

Hate to say, but Justice Two Names stuck her oars in as well, concurring with part of the opinion, “and adds that in her mind, presidential immunity should have been construed ‘very narrowly.'”

(Hat tip” Ace of Spades HQ)

I’ve got the feeling based on this ruling and the free speech issue that she considers herself “smarter” than her judicial colleagues. And by “judicial colleagues”, I mean Justices Thomas and Alito.

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:12 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

She’s no more a Constitutionalist than the wise latina.

B A Brightlight
B A Brightlight
July 1, 2024 2:38 pm

Winds must be out of the west as our politically conservative Supreme windsocks all pointed right today.

sDee
sDee
July 1, 2024 2:38 pm

Seems like a straight forward and common sense majority ruling. I’ve some experience looking into indemnification protections for Board members and officers in non-profit, so it sounds similar.

We live a country whose laws were based on the limited power and the checks/balances of a Republic. Now, half of its citizens have been brainwashed in believing it’s a democracy, and, that the majority can, quite literally, do what ever it wants, including locking up anyone who opposes “their democracy”.

Kaytee
Kaytee
July 1, 2024 3:08 pm
Reply to  sDee

I really don’t believe half of our country is so Dem deluded.
But the dwindling minority leftists are certainly the loudest and most violent.
Their LGBT and Islamic terrorist wings are recently showing the world just how nonexistent those ‘white supremist domestic terrorists’ really are.
While it’s all quite ugly, the lefts spiraling demise is truly spectacular.
#NCSWIC

Pedro
Pedro
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  sDee

Using Democratic Party logic, our democracy is not your democracy. Translation: Their power – which they intend to keep by any means necessary – will never be relinquished.

Our job is to make sure they fail. Today, the USSC gave us a big assist.

Last edited 1 year ago by Pedro
Betsy jones
Betsy jones
July 1, 2024 4:33 pm
Reply to  sDee

I listened in horror as Tucker told his Australian audience that essentially in a democracy the winning party gets to do what it wants ( paraphrasing). There was no other way of interpreting what he said.

He was in the moment in front of a cheering audience. But I do not cut him slack on this one. I wish someone, anyone, would sit him down, one on one, eyeball him, and make him truly think about what he said.

sDee
sDee
July 1, 2024 7:01 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

very telling

Parker
Parker
July 1, 2024 7:30 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

In a democracy it is true. Two wolves voting against one sheep on what’s for dinner is a majority decision and Tucker is right.
Sorry Betsy… you should know better.

sDee
sDee
July 1, 2024 8:47 pm
Reply to  Parker

As I recall the interview, Carlson’s comment was in context of the people of Australia rejecting totalitarian rule.

Unconquered
Unconquered
July 1, 2024 8:24 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

Is that not correct? The Supreme Court is a micro-democracy and whatever the majority chooses wins. However, the United States is NOT a democracy, but rather a Republic in order to prevent the majority from exactly that power.

Gulag escapee
Gulag escapee
July 1, 2024 8:54 pm
Reply to  Betsy jones

Democracies devolve into tyranny according to Plato (The Republic, section 555b – 569c)

Plato’s logic was part of why the Founders wrote the Constitution to specify a Republic, not a pure democracy.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:38 pm

Moron Leftists are falling over themselves to declare this means that Biden can assassinate Trump at will.

Mental luminaries such as Harry Sisson assure us this is the certain consequence of affirming a quarter millennia of prior Presidential practice.

Demagogocracy ain’t pretty.

Tom Parsons
Tom Parsons
July 1, 2024 3:01 pm
Reply to  Maquis

These same morons don’t seem to realize that they _don’t_ have immunity when calling for the assassination of a President…

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:16 pm
Reply to  Tom Parsons

In fact, even calling for it is a situation requiring a visit from the SS.

Jakeleg
Jakeleg
July 1, 2024 2:38 pm

“The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official.“

Do not think for a second that Lawfare won’t exploit this line from the decision. This single line, in my opinion, opens up a huge can of worms.

Twingirls49
Twingirls49
July 1, 2024 3:02 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

More of a concern for Biden and his family business.

Humphrey
July 1, 2024 3:06 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

My first thought Jakeleg. Something doesn’t smell right.

Ron B
Ron B
July 1, 2024 3:09 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

Almost every act of the President can be construed as official. The Lawfare freaks will have a tough time trying to frame his acts as unofficial. The Court just gave them some good examples of his official conduct, conduct that Smith and the lower courts said were unofficial. So they have a big job ahead of them now to stretch the pretzel even further.

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 3:28 pm
Reply to  Ron B

ALL of President Trump’s acts prior to and on Jan 6, ’21 were Official Acts as Potus. And SCOTUS just said “NO”, SC, Smith and his Jury(s) cant search for Motive behind the Official Acts. Good luck, Lawfare Goons,…. no deal here!

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:58 pm
Reply to  Ron B

There’s a huge body of law on what is ultra vires (outside the powers) of various officials.

It’s actually not that difficult.

Its 5 O Clock Somewhere
Its 5 O Clock Somewhere
July 1, 2024 3:15 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

using that logic – how does one consider what Slick Willy did in the Oval with that cigar???? Was THAT official business?……
these assholes better be careful what they wish for…………………………..

California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 3:30 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

Lots of trolls today!

Maquis
July 1, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  California Joe

It’s SCOTUS Day, do you know where your Derp is?

Jonrilus
Jonrilus
July 1, 2024 3:52 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

The lower courts have to adjudicate whether, on disputed acts, Trump acted in his official capacity or unofficially, and the prosecutor has to make the case. The burden of proof is on the prosecutor, if the President asserts that he acted in his official capacity as chief law enforcement officer, for instance.

Viewed through that prism, any legal action he takes to make sure during an election that the laws are faithfully executed must gain deference and immunity from prosecution, even if the outcome of such investigative actions were to benefit his own campaign. The court doesn’t get to “guess” or “divine” the President’s motives, beyond what he’s stated anymore when he acts officially, as lower courts attempted to do during the so-called “Muslim ban,” not while the stated reasons presumptively fall within his official capacity.

Can this be abused? You’d better believe it. But as has been observed, our form of government was made for a certain kind of people, an honorable, religious people. And as long as we’re willing to allow that part of the national character to atrophy and die, we’ll just have to accept the consequences of that neglect.

Oldretiredguy
Oldretiredguy
July 1, 2024 4:21 pm
Reply to  Jakeleg

Of course the Lawfare trash will attempt to define everything as “non-official”. Their problem is the constant delays hearings on each of these “acts” will cause. This will push all of their BS well past November

Daniel
Daniel
July 1, 2024 2:39 pm

This, of course, was the CORRECT and expected ruling. That 3 idiots ruled against it? Unsurprising.

Does this grant immunity to Obama for droning a US citizen? Opinions?

Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:41 pm
Reply to  Daniel

Likely.

Inasmuch as it would be argued an official act.

GreyRockMan
GreyRockMan
July 1, 2024 2:47 pm
Reply to  Daniel

Yes, though it does not provide immunity for Pedo Peter’s escapades collecting 10% indulgences through his son while he was Vice President.

Daniel
Daniel
July 1, 2024 2:51 pm
Reply to  GreyRockMan

So the claims of the left that “ordered assassinations of US citizens” are crap and Trump can order assassinations on US citizens. That should scare the CRAP out of the liberals out there. I think I will mention this factoid over and over again as Obama absolutely set a precedent as president as it relates to ordering the death of US Citizens.

Do I think Trump would ever do such a thing? NOPE. Not intentionally and not over US soil. But wouldn’t it be JUST LIKE the deep state to try to set up Trump with such a scenario?

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 2:53 pm
Reply to  GreyRockMan

No, it absolutely does not.

Footnote 3

sDee
sDee
July 1, 2024 2:49 pm
Reply to  Daniel

“Does this grant immunity to Obama for droning a US citizen? Opinions?”

Yes, I suppose, if one’s position is that “the law” allows a President can go to war without congressional approval.

sejmon
July 1, 2024 2:55 pm
Reply to  sDee

..there was droning..of of US citizen( -arab- he was wrong place/wrong time ) is it lawful too ????

Daniel
Daniel
July 1, 2024 3:27 pm
Reply to  sejmon

Obama knew the citizen was a citizen at the time of the attack being ordered.

2Zymos
2Zymos
July 1, 2024 3:13 pm
Reply to  sDee

The key question is “lawfulness” not whether it was official or personal — hence 18 USC 242 “color of law” violations!

Charlotte Powell Brooks
Charlotte Powell Brooks
July 1, 2024 3:08 pm
Reply to  Daniel

“An official act WITHIN CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY.”

lindak
lindak
July 1, 2024 3:10 pm
Reply to  Daniel

For official criminal acts? Like droning from a kill list that included an American citizen. Not sure if bypassing a trial before execution of a citizen will be prosecuted, but it is murder.

poncedefreon
poncedefreon
July 1, 2024 3:18 pm
Reply to  Daniel

Yes, it protects O for droning an American as collateral damage in a foreign country and, it protects the potted plant from exterminating an innocent family of about 10 (including children thinking they were terrorists) as retribution for getting 13 American soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 4:03 pm
Reply to  poncedefreon

Maybe.

There’s factually much we do not know.

I suspect in the future we may have the chance to see whether or not Obama’s droning of a US minor abroad is immune. A very hard case, and unclear under this ruling.

President Trump may decide not to bring charges on that one. Obama’s such a target rich environment, it’s easier to go with things like selling state secrets.

FarmerRen
FarmerRen
July 1, 2024 3:57 pm
Reply to  Daniel

👍🏼 Daniel. On the question of Obama and immunity, I add Fast and Furious.

Gulag escapee
Gulag escapee
July 1, 2024 8:59 pm
Reply to  Daniel

Lincoln killed tens of thousands of people born US Citizens.

Rusty Britches
July 1, 2024 2:39 pm

The Dems are freaking out over the Bidens and what happened at the Debate and now they are freaking out over what the court did to help President Trump, but he did nothing wrong and what Pence told the court he lied about what President trump said to him about over turning the election, He only told him to do his job and Pence refused to do it because he was paid off and did the work of the liberal Dems and the stupid Republicans who stood by while they did bad things to the President and now we have brain dead B iden and his crooked wife and family and the liberal judges are worried about
what President Trump might do in office, shame the hell on them, LOOK at the Bidens before its too late..

Daniel
Daniel
July 1, 2024 2:52 pm
Reply to  Rusty Britches

The court did not do this to help Trump. The court clarified the matter though not completely.

But if you want to enjoy the left losing their minds, then remind them that Obama ordered a drone strike to kill a US citizen. And that it was apparently OK that he did so…

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Pedro
Pedro
July 1, 2024 3:28 pm
Reply to  Rusty Britches

Trump vs. Pence was a dispute between the top two executive branch officials in the country. Both were acting in their official capacity at the time of the disagreement. That Pence disagreed with Trump proves nothing except that Pence disagreed with Trump.

US
US
July 1, 2024 3:58 pm
Reply to  Rusty Britches

Pence is a Judas.

California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 6:37 pm
Reply to  US

Pence thought he was giving ammo Garland and Smith.

He thought wrong!

CountryClassVulgarian
CountryClassVulgarian
July 1, 2024 6:37 pm
Reply to  Rusty Britches

What did SCOTUS do to “help” President Trump?

Texas Sub Vet
Texas Sub Vet
July 1, 2024 2:39 pm

If only they would accept the rulings and the scope they represent.

Alternative legal perversion theory emerging in 3…2….1

They won’t stop. They don’t know how.

But for today, we can enjoy their torment.

Kaytee
Kaytee
July 1, 2024 3:18 pm
Reply to  Texas Sub Vet

This is true. Stopping them won’t be pretty.

Bogeyfree
Bogeyfree
July 1, 2024 2:42 pm

So if an out of office, ex President and or an ex VP and or an ex US Secretary conspired to create false documents to frame and use to take down a sitting President, that action would not be covered under any immunity clause as this would not be considered an official act, right?

Sounds like PT would have a potentially strong foundation in this what if scenario, to pursue a deep investigation into possible criminal actions since there is NO immunity, right?

I wonder what that statue of limitations is for attempting to take down a sitting President is?

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Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:45 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

Looking forwards to him resubmitting his civil suit against Killary and Friends for all that.

Daniel
Daniel
July 1, 2024 2:55 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

I think the argument could definitely be made that they were all acting outside of their authority. But if not, Trump would still be allowed to drone strike all of them.

Patience
Patience
July 1, 2024 3:35 pm
Reply to  Daniel

😹

Powderriver
Powderriver
July 1, 2024 6:38 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

There is no statute of limitations for treason!

KingBroly
KingBroly
July 1, 2024 2:43 pm

This is a MEATY decision. The Supreme Court went FAR with this case. Very surprised, but very happy.

I doubt Roberts is, though; you can tell in so many words that this shouldn’t have happened.

mope
mope
July 1, 2024 2:43 pm

Justice Thomas’ concurring opinion is where the rubber meets the road. I commend it to your attention.
Jack Smith is a private citizen.

tonyE
tonyE
July 1, 2024 2:54 pm
Reply to  mope

…the Founders required that a federal office be “established by Law.”

A very interesting reading that in some ways goes way further.

It pretty much makes the case that many of the current Administration’s lawsuits and charges are invalid because they are created and prosecuted by a private citizen who constitutionally does not hold the legal standing granted by a Federal Office.

As usual, the dissent from the three libs is all about feelings, ignoring the fundamental law.

Last edited 1 year ago by tonyE
mope
mope
July 1, 2024 3:05 pm
Reply to  tonyE

I especially enjoyed the two references to Scalia. It’s like a hat tip, only different.
Judge Cannon should make Citizen Smith repay the government every penny.

Unconquered
Unconquered
July 1, 2024 8:37 pm
Reply to  mope

Not just Smith. Every agent and clerk, and everyone else who received even a penny ought to have to repay it. Or better yet, bankrupt them in court for participating in the fraudulent investigation that has no authority. Law fair.

Last edited 1 year ago by Unconquered
Dixie
Dixie
July 1, 2024 3:08 pm
Reply to  tonyE

Those three chose TDS over the constitution and the Republic. Obviously, they are sitting in the wrong seats.

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 3:56 pm
Reply to  tonyE

That is all these three Marxist Apparatchiks have, Feelings, not Intellect,… and today, they are all Bad,… Very Bad Feelings.

Touche’, Majority Justices.

Toolnut
Toolnut
July 1, 2024 2:46 pm

This is wonderful news but this question of immunity isn’t over. This ruling allows opinion to enter into determining official vs non-official acts. It could go back to the lower courts and they say he acted as a candidate (unofficial) and not as President (official).

The Constitution,article 1 section 3, is clear that the President must be impeached first before he can be tried for any crime committed in office regardless if it is an official act or unofficial.

I don’t know why they left it up for further interpretation.

My two cents. (Or in Bidenomics money, my two dollars.)

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Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:56 pm
Reply to  Toolnut

Kicking it down the road because they can.

Laila15
Laila15
July 1, 2024 3:26 pm
Reply to  Maquis

That’s what this court does routinely.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 4:06 pm
Reply to  Toolnut

SCOTUS held the opposite today.

No impeachment is required.

That argument is over.

Toolnut
Toolnut
July 1, 2024 5:39 pm
Reply to  Alex1689

Read Article 1 Section 3 paragraphs 6 and 7. It’s literally in the Constitution. The argument will only be over if the Constitution is amended.

My point was it’s going to end up back in front of SCOTUS someday, whether for President Trump or a future President.

It might be sooner rather than later if the crooked lower courts say President Trump was acting as a candidate on January 6.

They could have quoted the Constitution and had a unanimous vote because even the dissenting Justices would have a hard time twisting what is clearly written.

Toolnut
Toolnut
July 1, 2024 6:01 pm
Reply to  Toolnut

To clarify, because SCOTUS ignored the impeachment and conviction wording in Article 1 section three. Even though he was impeached for insurrection and acquitted by the Senate, this ruling ignores that and opens the door for it to end up at SCOTUS again if the lower court says he was acting as a candidate.

Justice Thomas’ opinion about the legality of the special counsel may put the kabosh on that but it may end up back there and they will have to clarify. They could have saved a lot of time if they quoted the Constitution.

technoaesthete
technoaesthete
July 1, 2024 4:54 pm
Reply to  Toolnut

Impeached AND convicted. Trump was not convicted.

Toolnut
Toolnut
July 1, 2024 5:40 pm
Reply to  technoaesthete

Correct. I thought I put convicted that in my post. Thanks for clarifying.

The Bird
July 1, 2024 2:47 pm

Our Heavenly Father is watching over DJT!

Debbie
Debbie
July 1, 2024 2:51 pm
Reply to  The Bird

He certainly is, thank you Lord❤️

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
July 1, 2024 2:51 pm

Rough week for Dem Voters.

WORDMAN™
WORDMAN™
July 1, 2024 3:04 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Both of them 🙂

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
July 1, 2024 3:22 pm
Reply to  WORDMAN™

Lordy how I wish it was just 2.

Got one in my family. She spent early June exploding, then calmed down when the NY verdict came in and got all nice.

Time for another explosion. Time to ignore her phone calls for a while.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 3:51 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Estrangement happens.

It’s actually rather peaceful.

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
July 1, 2024 5:18 pm
Reply to  Maquis

yes.

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 4:03 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

An even worse week for Hunter.

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
July 1, 2024 5:18 pm
Reply to  DaPicayune

Pretty sure that’s about the only reason “the family” is fighting so hard to keep Joe in office.

Treavor
Treavor
July 1, 2024 2:52 pm

LawFare takes another hit

Simpleton
Simpleton
July 1, 2024 2:53 pm

The immunity clauses were created for a reason.

The president cannot function constantly worrying about about political machinations attempting to take him down by spurious prosecutions.

So it was over 200 years ago, and that much has not changed.

What seems to have changed is the scope and viciousness.

What’s happening now reminds me of scenes from Peter Jackson’s Lord of The Rings movies. The hordes of vicious foul evil creatures with gnashing fangs and ugly weapons, screaming menacingly as they attack the good folk of middle earth.

sDee
sDee
July 1, 2024 3:14 pm
Reply to  Simpleton

“The president cannot function constantly worrying about about political machinations attempting to take him down by spurious prosecutions.”

Yet, one man chose to return, to stand in the gap and run for office knowing full well they would launch a volley of prosecutions to take him down.

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technoaesthete
technoaesthete
July 1, 2024 4:55 pm
Reply to  sDee

Was that photo taken at a State of the Union address?

The Gipper Lives.
July 1, 2024 2:53 pm

Did the Court rule on whether State and Local Courts have immunity from prosecution for bringing Nazi-style Police State Prosecutions of Political Opponents and dragging our Legal System down into the sewer with them where they live?

Asking for the Super-Majority of Actual Voters who already re-elected President Trump once in a Historic Landslide.

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Isaiah 1

26 I will restore your judges as at the first,
and your counselors as at the beginning.
Afterward you shall be called
the city of righteousness,
a faithful town.

27 Zion shall be redeemed with justice
and her converts with righteousness.
28 But the destruction of the transgressors and sinners shall be together,
and those who forsake the Lord shall be consumed.

Heavenly Father, we pray that those cooperating with evil would turn from the darkness and repent before You, even becoming whistleblowers. You love them, too, yet You will not see Your People oppressed any longer. Because of Your Great Love for Your Children, You are coming in Justice, Deliverance and Salvation, and especially in Your Glory, Father God. Lord Jesus, You are now taking Center Stage as the Holy Spirit moves in the earth and the Spirit of Liberty reigns over America, Israel and then the Nations. We command our Angel Armies to tear down all the strongholds of the enemy by the authority of the believer, Christ within us, and we release Your Glory, Father, over this nation in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ, Amen and Amen!

Last edited 1 year ago by The Gipper Lives.
Jonrilus
Jonrilus
July 1, 2024 10:16 pm

Amen!

Dano
Dano
July 2, 2024 7:48 am

Amen!

booger 71
booger 71
July 1, 2024 2:54 pm

Don’t have a link but AOC is in the process of Articles of Impeachment against the Supreme Court Justices that make her sad. LOL🤡

MR52
MR52
July 1, 2024 2:56 pm
Reply to  booger 71

Maybe she can get the three libs off the court.

Kaytee
Kaytee
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  booger 71

AOC couldn’t write a third grade book report. But the enraged K Street attorneys who have written all the legislative bills for the House for decades will whip up something for her to sign and present.

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 4:05 pm
Reply to  Kaytee

But she can Jive dance on stage,….. and sling drinks!

OhNoYouDoNot
OhNoYouDoNot
July 1, 2024 5:17 pm
Reply to  booger 71

The Supreme Court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control.

Today’s ruling represents an assault on American democracy. It is up to Congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture.

I intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our return.

https://x.com/AOC/status/1807814421168710111

rita pappas
rita pappas
July 1, 2024 8:45 pm
Reply to  booger 71

LOL indeed! Clown Leftist.

Bob Thomas
Bob Thomas
July 1, 2024 2:55 pm

The lower courts are corrupt and will rule that Trump’s actions were unofficial.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 2:58 pm
Reply to  Bob Thomas

To presume Omnipotence is to grant Omnipotence.

Coast
Coast
July 1, 2024 2:59 pm
Reply to  Bob Thomas

But the question is….what acts. What did he actually do? I didn’t see him storm the Capitol, I didn’t see him tell people to storm the Capitol.

Kaytee
Kaytee
July 1, 2024 3:25 pm
Reply to  Bob Thomas

Won’t work that way. The lower court commies and traitors are next up on the chopping block.

US
US
July 1, 2024 4:04 pm
Reply to  Kaytee

The DC Apellate Court should be dispersed. The District of Columbia is not a State.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 4:19 pm
Reply to  US

Indeed.

It is the anti-thesis of Federalism and a blight on our Republic.

The denizens of DC can be counted on to convict anyone the Communists place within their grasp; they have become an overclass lording their corrupt control over normal Americans.

Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed!

two percent neanderthal
two percent neanderthal
July 1, 2024 4:22 pm
Reply to  US

This is an excellent point! D.C. is the seat of government, NGOs, and other “looters” consistently enjoy a very pro big government jury pool. Were any J6 defendants acquitted by a D.C jury ?

Maquis
July 1, 2024 5:09 pm

Were any J6 defendants acquitted by a D.C jury ?

Shirley you jest!

Coast
Coast
July 1, 2024 2:56 pm

Biden has not only failed to enforce immigration laws, but has done so on purpose, including not following Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution. Sounds to me he is not acting “officially” and thus subject to prosecution.

Pedro
Pedro
July 1, 2024 3:52 pm
Reply to  Coast

The remedy for that is impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 4:08 pm
Reply to  Coast

No, the SCOTUS opinion also basically said you cannot prosecute a President for how he enforces or doesn’t enforce the immigration laws.

2Zymos
2Zymos
July 1, 2024 2:56 pm

Noteworthy:
Held: Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclu-sive constitutional authority.
— No president including bidan or obambam has ANY IMMUNITY WHATSOEVER for acts outside constitutional authority!
No pretending: bidan and obambam have many unconstitutional acts a in office.
— This immunity for official acts PRESUMES acts within the law and and acts within the authority of the office… and applies to state and local offices and appointments as well.
!! Our “problem” today centers on what do we do when acts are NOT authorized and/or acts violate the law!!
we will need the militia in “ready status” or possibly in action before this is over and militia activity will be law enforcement which is “force” not violence (article 1 section 8 clause 15/16, mission/purpose of the militia).

mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 2:56 pm

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Only applies to President Trump of course.

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Dixie
Dixie
July 1, 2024 3:15 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

His eyes are just as black as FJB’s eyes were during the debate.

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DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 4:10 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

GW: “What da Sh…,… NYC Attacked,….., first things first,…. fly all the Saudis back home!”

MR52
MR52
July 1, 2024 2:58 pm

Does this blow up the premise of the J6 Committee foundation? I think so.

MR52
MR52
July 1, 2024 3:20 pm
Reply to  MR52

The Report

https://january6th-benniethompson.house.gov/report-executive-summary

Although the Justice Department
has taken the position in litigation that a former high level White House
staffer for a former President is not entitled to absolute immunity,



Paprika
Paprika
July 1, 2024 4:29 pm
Reply to  MR52

And that staff member would not have “absolute immunity”. But what that staffer does have is protection under Executive Privilege if the President at the time invokes it. I don’t know of any WH staff member that has ever said they have “absolute immunity”.

All Hype
All Hype
July 1, 2024 2:59 pm

This was the exact correct decision. No new case law was created, it just affirmed what is found in the constitution. I see this a win for Obama and Biden. The majority of justices bailed them out of their illegal activities while in office. I wonder if Jack Smith Smith loses his immunity if he is found not legally appointed.

Bessie2003
Bessie2003
July 1, 2024 4:08 pm
Reply to  All Hype

I see this as a win for the future of our nation by maintaining the separate but equal branch of government for the Executive Branch, re-establishing the original intent and foundation to carry out the necessary work whoever holds that office going forward for at least the next 200+ years.

VoteAllIncumbantsOut
VoteAllIncumbantsOut
July 1, 2024 3:00 pm

 

For those of you who do NOT fully understand our Constitution, the laws or the statutes, then you will have missed 4 of the most important cases in our history that SCOTUS has just released.

First- (Moore v. United States 2024) regarding taxes.  *And like I’ve said on here over the years, “Income” taxes are “Excise” taxes.  And excise taxes are synonymous with “Privilege” taxes.  The 16th Amendment did not change the tax laws one iota!  We have all been misled!  Not me… 10 years now, I’m sober.

Second, (Fischer v. United States 2024) regarding 18 USC §1512- Tampering with a witness, victim or an informant.

Third (Loper Bright Enterprises Et Al, v Raimondo, Secretary of Commerce Et Al,  2024). Regarding “Chevron Deference”.  *pay special attention to the Gorsuch concurring opinion, it’s probably the best I’ve ever read.  

Finally, (Trump v. United States 2024). Regarding immunity.  *To understand the difference of exclusive powers of the President vs the shared powers of the President and congress, I would encourage all of you to read “Marbury v. Madison”  (1803). 

Once you understand Marbury, all of you will understand why the Chevron case ties the Trump case together and why “Chevron” was overturned.  

The Moore case above will have you questioning that if taxes are an “Excise” tax as they have been from our Founders Constitution, and repeated countless times throughout our SCOTUS precedent’s, leading to the “Revenue Act of 1862” and finally to where the actual code was born in 1939 through the “Internal Revenue Act”,  the questions will be…. “If it’s an excise tax, and excise taxes are synonymous with “Privilege” taxes, then do I engage in that privilege?  That’s for you to learn and discover for yourselves and the proper forms to use.

Personally for my Wife and I, we don’t engage in any Federally-Connected activities, events or Privileges.  However, Private-sector people Can and Do engage in those Privileged activities and are thus subject to the 100% Constitutional tax laws that have NEVER once changed!

The Cure to our bloated and overbearing government has always been there and millions of us were misled down a primrose path.  You want your country back?  Then learn the tax laws.  

JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, Lusitania, Vietnam, Weapons of Mass destruction, 911 #1, 911 #2,  Covid-19, Russia/Ukraine, BLM, the new and improved “Alphabet”, Antifa, J6, Libya, Syria, on and on.  Yet, somehow most of you believe that your government created a direct tax on “Income” due to the 16th Amendment.   Silly you!

Here you can learn the actual law that has recently been placed in digital format from its original book inception of 2003 to current date. 

If you doubt me, I’m okay with that but first take a look at the “Honor Roll” down this page and then decide if you still want to be convinced or misled anymore.

https://losthorizons.com/BulletinBoard.htm

BonnieBlue
BonnieBlue
July 1, 2024 3:00 pm

And so all the crimes committed by Biden while pResident also can not be prosecuted, right? If official business, of course.

mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 3:03 pm

This is also excellent news for pResident Biden too. None of this stuff is an issue if fair elections are administered. Therefore, the cabal will continue to pretend not to notice the election integrity issues.

The court refuses to hear or help fix election fraud for a reason. Election Fraud remains rampant. This way fake/unelected pRresdents like Branden will be exempt for their unconstitutional behavior while ensuring fake/unelected pRresidents continue to be installed and occupy the WH.

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Abelard
Abelard
July 1, 2024 3:43 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

A good argument for picking honorable people for the job

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:06 pm

I read this opinion, not from a point of view of apprehension about President Trump (he’ll be fine), but from the point of view of what does this allow him to do in his second term, and what straightjackets does it remove that were a threat during his first term?

To start with, the court wrote about powers that carry with them core, absolute immunity, the exercise of which cannot come under question in any forum. It specifically identified:

Pardons

Recognition of foreign governments

Removal of executive branch officials.

If it can’t be questioned . . . It also cannot be the grounds for impeachment, can it?

Let’s repeat: If it’s a core power, the exercise of the core power cannot be grounds for impeachment (*except if done in connection with taking a bribe).

In his first term, there was the threat that if President Trump fired . . .

Rosenstein
Barr
Fauci

That he would be prosecuted for obstruction of justice or impeached.

That threat is forever off the table now.

He can fire anyone he likes in the executive branch. The straightjacket is gone.

On that point, further, the majority opinion uses strong language consistent with the Unitary Executive theory of the Constitution. The President is “a person alone who comprises a branch of government.”

While there are areas of shared constitutional responsibility, the core powers of the Executive Branch, including personnel , are the President’s alone.

Schedule F

Boom.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:17 pm
Reply to  Alex1689

Dealing with and recognizing foreign governments is also a core power.

No more impeachments for perfect phone calls.

Also, just gonna note – if the President were to decide to recognize a Palestinian State, Isreal can go suck a lemon, because there’s no recourse through Congress or otherwise.

Another core area of Executive authority that CANNOT now be questioned – the power to investigate and prosecute crimes. And no one can inquire into the motives for doing so. Again, Congress is now completelyout of the picture, exceptforthe power of the purse.

Although the possibilities for misuse of this power loom large, we do have some checks on that, through judicial selection and jury trials and other constitutional protections in the Bill of Rights (*We still absolutely have to abolish the DC courts for this to work correctly).

I believe a very, very significant part of President Trump’s term is going to consist of investigating and prosecuting every criminal from Obama to Clinton to Fauci to Whitchmer to Cuomo to Schiff to Soros Sr and Jr.

The left can scream about it all they Iike- they are now powerless to prevent it.

Justice is coming.

Remember: The left can scream bad motives– doesn’t matter.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  Alex1689

With regard to prosecution of past Presidents for unofficial acts or acts as to which a presumption of immunity can be rebutted, no prior impeachment and Senate conviction is necessary.

Boom. Obama, Clinton, and W, squarely in the judicial crosshairs. (I’m only excluding Biden because as you probably know, I think he’s been dead for years).

Treason, by the way, is not and cannot be an official act.

Regarding Obama droning US Citizens or sending Seal Team 6 to their deaths to prevent discovery of crimes . . . Is still a very fact dependent, gray area IMHO. Yes, the power to conduct war is a core executive power. And motives cannot be questioned. However, there’s also Footnote 3. If the official act is completed, and if the President was taking bribes as a quid pro quo to complete it . . .

Gray area. Probably edging to out of bounds, but let’s see what happens.

ed
ed
July 1, 2024 4:42 pm
Reply to  Alex1689

Thank you Alex !! Excellent comments as always !!

Bessie2003
Bessie2003
July 1, 2024 4:10 pm
Reply to  Alex1689

Great points!

Yes!

Black Knight
July 3, 2024 10:49 am
Reply to  Alex1689

Obama vis a vis Hillary, Brennan, Corney, Clapper, Rice, AG etc???

🤔

Bubby
Bubby
July 1, 2024 3:07 pm

“As expected, the high court instructed the lower trial courts to hold specific evidentiary hearings on each anti-Trump criminal count, and determine which counts, if any, related to official or unofficial acts.” – Sundance

My guess is Lawfare will come up with some half assed “unofficial act” which the corrupt to the core DC District Court will recognize as “unofficial” of President Trump in violation of some law and a revised/new indictment and subsequent trial will begin? No one should believe this ruling will end Lawfare’s effort to jail President Trump on false/made up charges!!! It just made it more difficult that’s all!!! JMO

strateshooter
strateshooter
July 1, 2024 3:22 pm
Reply to  Bubby

It is now WAY TOO LATE for new Lawfare actions.

4 mths from now Donald Trump will likely be the democratically elected POTUS.

:).

God is Working hard this week.

Matthew W
July 1, 2024 3:09 pm

A real shame that it had to get to this point

2Zymos
2Zymos
July 1, 2024 3:20 pm
Reply to  Matthew W

Two aspects of shame:
1) Shame on the criminals who perpetrated the crimes — that’s how we “get to this point”….
2) Moreover, shame on those (including “us”) who failed to confront the CRIMES and CRIMINALS.
That day of “confrontation” and resolution is right in front of us… and looking at the “deep state” at federal and state levels we will likely need militia with or without courageous sheriffs to meet “standards” of just resolution.

Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:50 pm
Reply to  Matthew W

It was necessary for justice to be done.

The lack of any case law on Presidential immunity was going to be a huge barrier to prosecuting the former Presidents. Now that pathway is clear.

In addition, see my comments about the power to fire, and the power to prosecute.

This decision was one great big gift basket for a second Trump term.

Now we just have to get him into office.

Donald
Donald
July 1, 2024 3:09 pm

Not to be lost in the moment is that Justice Thomas published an opinion that the appointment of Jack Smith was illegal.

tonyE
tonyE
July 1, 2024 4:19 pm
Reply to  Donald

Which pretty much opens up the case for dismissal of the charges, with prejudice.

Keep an eye on that courtroom in Florida, the one with the honest judge.

Last edited 1 year ago by tonyE
R Green
R Green
July 1, 2024 3:13 pm

“All of which means some of Trump’s conduct can still be prosecuted, but some cannot. And figuring out what can and cannot be is still to be determined.”

So Clinton’s, Bush’s, OBiden’ can still be prosecuted as well then, right?

DaPicayune
DaPicayune
July 1, 2024 3:16 pm

Willy E. Coyote Smith foiled again,…. Trump breezing by, as usual,…. “Meep, Meep!”

Hey, Marxist Dims,… as Nasty Nancy said,…. time to “Embrace The Suck!”,… Again.

Pedro
Pedro
July 1, 2024 3:17 pm

I’m grinning from ear to ear so much that I think I just sprained my face.

That said, the Democrats are in a desperate mood.

Semper Vigilans. Semper Fidelis. Semper Paratus.

Bananas
Bananas
July 1, 2024 3:17 pm

Praise the Lord!

Val1
Val1
July 1, 2024 3:17 pm

Praised be the Lord!

BobBoxBody
BobBoxBody
July 1, 2024 3:18 pm

SCOTUS sees which way the winds are blowing…

two percent neanderthal
two percent neanderthal
July 1, 2024 3:53 pm
Reply to  BobBoxBody

If you are referring to the immunity decision I disagree. It is well reasoned and based on orthodox Constitutional Law. SCOTUS clearly pointed out the reflex action summary disposition of the immunity question at the the D.C District and Circuit Appeals Courts which it described as a “highly expedited basis.” It then remanded the case with explicict direction to undertake a thorough analysis – after briefing – of the official acts – private acts issue. The District Court judge must now demonstrate an in depth analysis and the requisite evidentiary basis before proceeding with the prosecution.

mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 3:19 pm

“A Private Citizen Cannot Criminally Prosecute Anyone, Let Alone a Former President” – Clarence Thomas Questions Jack Smith’s Authority in Blistering Opinion on Immunity Ruling

 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/clarence-thomas-questions-jack-smiths-authority-blistering-opinion/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=clarence-thomas-questions-jack-smiths-authority-blistering-opinion

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The Boss
The Boss
July 1, 2024 3:31 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

Great read.

R.J.
R.J.
July 1, 2024 3:20 pm

I note three female justices on the Court want to hang President Trump…I note further many female judges in lower courts along with female DAs want to imprison him. I know Hillary, Michelle, Jill and many other females despise Trump.

Maybe this election is really all about a male-female dynamic. Kinda like an Adam and Eve moment in time, only cloudy in it’s presentation, alive in an unconscious way…I am not sure.

Perhaps Jacques Lacan’s writings in Ecrits (translated from the French by Bruce Fink) may offer some clues and serious understandings at what really may be at play in our political world…perhaps.

HHC 2/16
HHC 2/16
July 1, 2024 3:32 pm
Reply to  R.J.

Politics have nothing to do with it.
They’re just jealous of Melania…………….

Laila15
Laila15
July 1, 2024 3:34 pm
Reply to  R.J.

When women express what are considered traditionally ‘male’ or ‘masculine’ personality traits and perspectives, they are often punished socially – particularly if they have the kind of attributes that could land them in positions like a Supreme Court justice. So what happens is that the women who actually get to those positions are often a certain kind that exercise power stereotypically. They are then rewarded for that and not deemed threatening in ways that would otherwise undermine them.

So women like that get rewarded in society, while women who think differently, and who demonstrate excellence particularly intellectually, often don’t. Now this has changed a lot since I was young in the 1980’s, but probably not radically enough. In short, the women we are seeing are not coming from a broad spectrum of personality types and are going to assert themselves in stereotypically ‘feminine’ manners more than not.

R.J.
R.J.
July 1, 2024 3:47 pm
Reply to  Laila15

How would you describe the fights being shown via media (maybe YouTube) on the Pride parades this weekend?

Abelard
Abelard
July 1, 2024 4:04 pm
Reply to  R.J.

Perceptive. I shall read Ecrits

Sam Hill
Sam Hill
July 1, 2024 4:26 pm
Reply to  R.J.

I contend that the downward spiral of this country is directly related to granting voting rights to women.

Maquis
July 1, 2024 5:12 pm
Reply to  Sam Hill

Or to the influence of those that worked so hard to impose that and other changes to our Constitution for the benefit of their subversive socialist revolution.

mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 3:20 pm

“The nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive, and constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all official acts. *There is NO IMMUNITY for unofficial acts*”. (emphasis added)

Was using ghost Gmail drafts an official act?
Was the sale of F35 blueprints (off book) an official act?
Was the skimming of uranium (UraniumOne) under Hussein, coordinated by US CIA/State Dept with Hussein approval through private e-mail channels, an official act?
Was #pizzagate an official act?
Was “10% for the Big Guy” (H) an official act?
Was the equipping of ISIS terrorists through various US and French dummy-NGOs, w/ funding from USAID budget, an officially declared intent of the same (Act)?
Was orchestrating a coup against a lawful incoming President-elect, by framing him for Treason, done through official channels?

Step by Step.

It must be done Right.

–David Clements

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Alex1689
July 1, 2024 3:45 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

Bingo

Bessie2003
Bessie2003
July 1, 2024 4:17 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

It would be fun, during 2nd PDJT Administration to have David Clements somewhere in the Justice Department.

He could have a field day cleaning up a lot of the misapplication of law that he’s been uncovering since the 2020 electoral steal.

Perhaps a 2nd term PDJT, with a republican controlled House and Senate, could establish a new special council process and Professor Clements could be so appointed to investigate and clean up all Federal Election issues that he, along with Katherine Englebrecht of True the Vote, have been highlighting.

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andy
andy
July 1, 2024 3:22 pm
Bubby
Bubby
July 1, 2024 3:28 pm
Reply to  andy

Bessie2003
Bessie2003
July 1, 2024 4:19 pm
Reply to  Bubby

Cornered, these people are extremely dangerous so during now and the election it will not be hard to imagine the security and Secret Service actions that will be needed in all upcoming PDJT rallies.

Janeka
Janeka
July 1, 2024 3:23 pm

Happy, happy, happy .. Hopefully Trump has secured some serious extra security..

Bubby
Bubby
July 1, 2024 3:32 pm
Reply to  Janeka

Hope the “extra security” are God fearing, MAGA and America Firsters!!!! No security with CIA or IC connections, contacts or work experience!!! JMO

mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm

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Firing squads and hangings won’t be “assassinations” if they are given a fair trial and found guilty for Treason and/or Crimes Against Humanity.

Unlike the phony moral superiority Democrats portray when the death of their political enemies are labeled a “suicide”.

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Parrothead
July 1, 2024 3:59 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

You’re in no danger, Marc, and I think you know that. However, if you are stupid enough to believe your own fear mongering, here’s hoping you lose a whole lot of sleep over it and your baseless paranoia leaves you permanently institutionalized. He’s coming for you. LOOK OUT!!!

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mass psychosis
mass psychosis
July 1, 2024 5:06 pm
Reply to  Parrothead

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California Joe
California Joe
July 1, 2024 6:48 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

Let’s hope so, Jimbo! 🤺

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Meshulam
Meshulam
July 1, 2024 6:03 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

Feeling a little panicked are we Marc. Maybe you and Hollywood Nebbish Norm Eisen can console yourselves with a nice hot cup of GFY. At least your “girl” Frumpy Kagan and her secretary Sotomayor did what you instructed. Robert’s and Justice TwoNames fees are going up.

Mims
Mims
July 1, 2024 10:53 pm
Reply to  mass psychosis

He’s just sending a message to the lunatic left about what Biden should do.

New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
New Florida Blues a.k.a Cold Cornbread
July 1, 2024 3:24 pm

What a difference a few well placed prayers can make. I am going to give thanks by making a big ol batch of boiled peanuts and hand some out to my neighbors! I am going to cut the grass before my back seizes up again. Viva Trump!!!!

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