Treeper Question:
ICTHEMATRIX – […] “Related to the topic of discerning alignment via a question, I would like to sincerely ask you your thoughts on a very real possibility:
What are we to make of President Trump’s possible choice of Marco Rubio as his VP?
In many columns and pages, you have chronicled the multiple failure points of Senator Rubio…his service within the corrupted Intelligence committee, and his non-MAGA compromises. I fear this could become another massive moment of fatally poor judgement.”
The direct issue of the vice presidential pick of Donald Trump is a fun topic often discussed, because it can easily engage everyone.
The issue of Rubio, or ‘fill_in_the_blank‘, is not really that important to me; and before your jaw opens, I’ll explain why.
My personal preference is Dr. Ben Carson, for all the reasons I have previously mentioned {GO DEEP}. In this election, GOOD is going head-to-head against EVIL.
When I say GOOD -vs- EVIL, let me give context. These are the stakes.
Given the nature of potential nuclear weapon use, three simultaneous global conflicts (likely 4 with Taiwan), a looming World War III, hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of slaughtered people, the likely elimination of the dollar as the global reserve currency for around half the world, a dollar-based central bank digital currency created by the United States Treasury if Biden wins, the catastrophic consequences in the lives of ordinary Americans, and essentially the end of projected USA power and the economic security that goes with it, there may not be a familiar tomorrow if the election goes the wrong way. With that in mind, the lowest possible consideration in my mind is 2028.
Next up, put this thinking cream into your coffee as we sip through the thought processes.
They crossed the Rubicon in 2020 with 51 high ranking Gov Intel members purposefully and specifically lying to the public. Does everyone realize the scale of that, and what it meant when they took that position on such an openly visible lie right to our faces, using our highest-ranking government intelligence members? They don’t exactly come back from that; it was an all-in position…. and they did it. What does that stuff in 2020 tell you about 2024?
What they will do, based on what they have already done, is the stuff we should be thinking about.
Look at what they have done.
This doesn’t even touch on the forced vaccination and COVID madness where people literally stood outside of buildings while their husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, grandparents and children died alone, ALONE, because government people – the type who torture beagles for a living – said that isolation was what we needed to do…. because that was part of the predicate for manipulating an election.
Lawfare? Heck, that’s the least dangerous poison arrow in their death to the republic quiver.
That’s the 2024 context.
So back to the VP possibility and Marco Rubio.
I don’t have any idea who President Donald Trump will select. However, I can see him liking Senator Rubio, because Rubio is articulate, clean, relatively young, bilingual, has a family, is polite and well mannered, is cultured, is seemingly not in trouble, and he gives a good impression when he walks into the room and engages the guests. Rubio outwardly checks boxes that make him appear like a safe legacy consideration.
The downside is that Rubio is a manipulative liar, untrustworthy, speaks with forked tongue, fulfills the role of Brutus, or the “scorpion” perfectly, and seemingly has done stuff early on in his life that may have created the origination compromise. Beyond all that, the cherry on the corruption cake is his relationship with the Intelligence Community. Any SSCI Vice-Chair who can sit with SSCI Chairman Mark Warner as a “friend across the aisle,” can never, not for a single moment, be trusted. It’s just the reality of it.
That said, I genuinely don’t care who Trump selects as vice president. I have my preference (Carson), but I’m situationally ambivalent to the issue, because I view my preference for Trump’s mission as something totally different than most.
WE THE PEOPLE need to take back the power from our government. I want President Trump to operate every lever from the limited office of the presidency to give us the tools to take back that power. WE need to be the vice president, and WE need to be the force in 2028 that determines how the deconstruction of our oppression continues.
President Donald J. Trump is our weapon, our wrecking ball to start this MAGA process. We the People are the entities who need to support Trump, while keeping him fueled and fearless as he does it. Depending on how much deconstruction demolition Trump is able to achieve, the next phase of operational leadership will need a different skillset.
Last point – I don’t believe that President Donald Trump has “massively failed” at anything. I’m not going to backbite, judge or criticize the man in the arena, because he wears a different sandal or chooses a different weapon to fight the enemy. Look around, he’s all alone.
Go back to what I wrote in July, 2015, about Donald Trump. “Why I Support Donald Trump“… Long before anyone thought he had a chance, I explained the reason I would support him in 2015. [Part 2]
I said in 2015, if Donald Trump showed up to the August Fox debate in five-inch heels, a Carmen Miranda hat and started twerking the podium of Jeb Bush, I would vote for him even harder. …. Because Trump was the only one different than the set of characters organized to help Jeb.
President Trump isn’t the cause of the GOP problems; President Trump is the result of the GOP problems. President Trump is our weapon. From that perspective, there is no alternative. And yes, he is the ONLY alternative. Whether he makes mistakes or not is a moot point against the reality of him being the only alternative to a completely corrupt system. Think about it.
There are quite enough high-horse riders and keyboard warriors who do not understand the DC system criticizing Trump. They don’t need my help. I cheer our glorious bastard every day, because every ounce of his thinking and effort comes from a place of good intention. I do not doubt this fallible, flawed and simultaneously decent, strong, purposeful and resilient man.
Beyond 2024, Good is going to have to battle Evil, and at the same time our nation will need stability, optimism and a resurgence of faith. In short, no one is winning this political war without putting God, righteousness and prayer at the forefront, as the DC tables are overturned.
When it gets ugly, and it will get extremely ugly, something just inherently tells me, we will need Ben Carson.
I believe this is a critical pick, I think Trump knows this, therefore I believe that NONE of the “possible picks is going to be chosen. I believe the next VP has to be the new leader, I do not think this can all be done in 4 Trump years. I believe that the following 4 years are just as important as 24-28.
I believe there is much to be cleaned up, I ALSO think the military is the most vulnerable and that we have many non military participanting actors that are making a mockery of our country.
There fore I believe Trump is going to pick Gen Michael Flynn as his VP. He has vast experience in military operations, intelligence ops, he’s well known to most every world leader and he is one that will keep Trumps cabinet in check if they fall out. I pray thet Trump picks Gen Michael Flynn.
interesting. Flynn is effin awesome
Flynn, like Trump, has the scars that will remind him every day, who is the real internal enemy.
Then do one better and select Admiral Mike Rogers!! He was DirNSA and was the one to blow the whistle that revealed much of the deep state.
Admiral Rogers should be a subject for a new book on Profiles of Courage. He has been invisibles since. Don’t doubt there are excellent reasons for this but leaves me without a data point for support.
Flynn would be awesome! Yes a lot of work needs to be done.we need to deconstruct the government we have basically. It is much too powerful and much too big. We need to deconstruct the administrative state. The administrative state , the 3 letter agencies, are the tools that the evil people use to commit their diabolical deeds. We need to remove those tools otherwise they will get back into power at some point and then it will be here we go again like what we are going through now. All the good things Trump did just got destroyed. It shouldn’t be this way. The government shouldn’t have enough power that we have to be terrified of who controls it. The administrative state is the cause of pretty much all our problems. It needs to go.
I agree with you! Remember, though, that all the three letter agencies are populated with people…many people that have been indulging in anti-American activities. Dare I say gang or mob-like activities. Defund, abolish, smash these agencies to smithereens; but the people will remain. And make no mistake, some of these agencies are self sustaining.
Soooo, what to do? Look to history for answers. Follow the guy or gal that stands up righteously and says follow me. Be strong and be faithful. Trust in God.
Flynn for FBI Director.
Hey Fred!
cousin Pat Mc
I’m thinking Doug Burgum, the Governor of ND, is the sleeper to look out for as VP pick. At President Trump’s NJ rally Gov. Burgum was introduced on stage, with his wife. Why would a ND Governor be given that prominent an appearance in, of all places, NJ? What would such an off-the-radar individual be doing there at all?
Gov. Burgum is a very smart, tough and successful businessman (a billionaire) with an extremely strong America-first background, politically. He’s reputed to be in total alignment with President Trump’s vision.
It’s just a feeling but my gut tells me he’s the dark horse to watch for. He’d be far from the worst choice that could be made.
I hear from North Dakota residents that Doug is in tight with Bill Gates.
We don’t need that in our VP.
If he is such a great Governor, than by all means, leave him as a good Governor!
The ONLY way to take power away from the Feds is to have 50 Strong State Governors who demand their Senators stand up for their States.
Taking a strong Governor and putting him into the Feds TOTALLY undermines the concept of taking power AWAY from the Feds.
This is the samething I have been screaming to people. A good govoner is more dangerous to DC than any member of congress. We take back out states and we nuetter DC. I have evn mentioned that individual states need to take back the government programs that DC has hijacked from them. When you take back the programs and the money (taxes) that funds them you starve DC out and get them back to being the government or founding fathers intended.
Burgum is a genius. I know him from a past career.
Yes. Someone used to giving orders and having them followed, or else.
Grant, Eisenhower, … it’s time to return to the proper use of principled, heroic, generals after their retirement.
Sorry, forgot to start my list “Washington, Grant, Eisenhower.”
Patton and Monty weren’t big on following orders. They didn’t get fired because they were the best Ike had. For that matter, Ben Butler had issues with orders too. He eventually got fired because he was far from the best that Grant had. And then there was Benedict Arnold. He was a good general and a legitimate hero (at Saratoga) but then there was the defection.
Your point being? That all effective generals would not be good Presidents? I don’t think I ever implied that. But Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower were all “supreme commanders” in their day, and that leadership, love of country, and adherence to principle made them good Presidents to follow devastating wars. Flynn, while not a supreme commander, certainly has been tested by fire and has sacrificed greatly for his country. He has earned a chance to fix it, if so chosen. Not my first choice (I like Hawley), but I would have no problem with him sitting as President of the Senate.
That is how you display Patton? The best that Ike had? My goodness what a ridiculous comment. He had Bradley if he wanted someone to follow orders. He needed someone with balls. That is how Lincoln got Grant and Sherman.
Butler was hated on both sides of the ball. It wasn’t following orders it was his orders in New Orleans as a military governor that got him the most heat. He was a very bad general and removed. He is nowhere on the level of Patton or Montgomery.
There aren’t any of those anymore.
FLYNN would have the strength and conviction to stand up to the cra-cra.
Totally Agree! That would be a great pick, no confirmation process and put him charge of some investigations!
They would worry about Flynn so would be
goodexcellent protection for President Trump. Zero hates Flynn and choosing Flynn would especially neuter zero. JMHO.I also agree. Keep in mind that one of the left’s go weapons will be to deny security clearance to any and all Trump appointments.
Won’t work.
Finally someone who is been saying the ONE I’ve been hoping and praying for. I KNEW when he said to Flynn at the press conference “stay healthy”. HE is the only one who knows all the dirty secrets and if Trump is truly serious about cleaning the administrative state. He would also make a great President. He’s not old–born in 1958. All of these people that have been named and will be named by the fake media are NOT going to be VP. And, Sundance I hear you loud and clear. I agree with your assessments. However, as of the last couple of days, Dr. Carson has told Newsmax that he hasn’t gotten a call from Trump. I take him at his word. We need to pray ALOT!! We are in a lot of trouble. These people have darkness in them and they will never go away unless Trump is truly serious about cleaning up this criminal government.
THANKS FOR THIS WEBSITE AND ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, SUNDANCE!
Convicted felon bonus!
And, when people say “criminals run DC,” Democrats will be forced to agree!
Need a man for the times. These times call for a loyal killer. So Gen. Flynn. In civilized times Dr. Carson would be the hands down choice. We are not there.
I agree 1,000 % with the choice of Sundance: Dr Ben Carson.
I will tell all folks why.
I do not ever confuse soft spoken and kindness for weakness.
I am not worried one jot about his age, I rather applaud his honesty, integrity and wisdom, they are
all his gifts along with his abiding faith.
He was already HUD Secretary in President Trump’s first term.
When and where during that tenure was he “eaten alive” as some comments claim he would be as VP.
Source reference please.
Big huge NO for Little Marco.
All Treepers be blessed 🙏
The main characteristic in favor of Dr. Carson is that he is not a pol.
Anyone who spent any time in Congress is either bought or compromised.
Yes! Agree!
I think the main characteristic in favor of choosing Dr. Ben Carson is that he is calm cool collected and 100% loyal.
And he got that way because he is smart and has common sense.
And Godly. That counts, especially today.
Carson has my vote
He has been number one on my list too. He brings calm, intelligence, respect for others and is not bothered by the media at all. He would be a strong man, an island of peace, can bring people together in a very chaotic situation. Yet he is absolutely no pushover and asserts himself when it is needed. His MAGA side is there too. Love the guy.
Me too Cjzak! Agree with all you said and love the guy as well!
The media matters not to him, nor should it ever to someone as he.
He is secure in his own inner strength and a solid backbone does he possess!
Lots of names being mentioned for VP do not, in my opinion, carry themselves as he does.
Thanks for your reply and blessings wished to you and yours.
And also he is a Black man.
I agree Mouse – Dr Carson’s demeanor should not be mistaken for weakness. He was a pediatric neurosurgeon! That requires a spine of steel!
Thank you JmKNY.
I have found, over my 70+ years, that blowhards and fist pounders are not at all equal
to measured, truthful, calm, rational, well reasoned and well spoken argument/or positions.
One can choose to display competence, knowledge, and a firm grasp of the truth/facts without coming across as offensive.
My source: Jesus
Blessings to you and yours and all Treepers!
Too old. He’s 72. If he ran in 2028, he’d be 76. If he ran again in 2032, he’d be 80.
I don’t think he wants to run – I think he and Donald Trump would spend fours years not caring one whit about ever being reelected to anything and that would give them the freedom to do whatever needs to be done! I
n the meantime, some of the current crop of young and upcoming MAGA will get a chance to prove themselves and get the nob, at the appropriate time, to go for it in 2028. My current pick for that year is JD Vance but there is a LOT of time between now and then and we need to see who rises and who falls during the Trump/Carson years!
Perfect!
By that metric, Trump should drop out of the 2024 race, since he’s 77.
No little marco. Vice President Ben Carson has a nice ring to it
Little Marco ran on the TEA Party, that didn’t last 2 minutes when he got to the Swamp.
dial up some irony.
I don’t get it.
Sean Hannity mashup.
think the corrupt senate.
think obama.
think loyalty.
think he was a dem.
think he paid a price.
think the hair.
think again… he was not pardoned by PDJT so he is a felon (you made me check).
I would take an outlier like Blago over any DCreep.
I am also not thinking about 2028. There are those who think it’s absolutely necessary that Trump’s pick be able to run and win in 2028, but I don’t believe that. The four years between now and 2028 is more than enough time for a MAGA heir to emerge.
The primary role of this VP, assuming the candidate is also qualified to be president, must be to provide impeachment insurance for President Trump. This is number 1, 1A and 1B. This means that whoever is picked must scare the DS just as much as Trump does. And as much as I like Dr. Carson, I don’t believe the communists would hesitate even an instant to impeach and convict Trump to get to him.
I also like Kari Lake, but as much abuse as she has endured, it doesn’t compare to what President Trump has had to bear. God forbid she were named VP and then had to take over as president, I’m not sure she could stand up to them. I just think she needs more seasoning for such an important position. Any consideration of Rubio or Scott or some of the other names on the oft-cited lists is simply ludicrous.
I honestly think that right now, there are only two people who scare them as much as Trump, and they are Steve Bannon and Gen. Flynn. I’m not saying either of those would be practical picks, but if the goal is to keep Trump in office from January 2025 to January 2029, then it either has to be one of them or someone very much like them.
I am going to vote for President Trump no matter who he picks as his VP. However, over the years I like Rubio less and less. He is establishment big time now. At one point he was going to quit the Senate and work for the Miami Dolphins, but McConnell made him an offer he couldn’t refuse – Vice Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence. There are massive strings to that, so he can never be trusted. I hope President Trump does not pick Rubio.
Yes I worry about Rubio IC connections , RINO involvement, possibly manipulative cunning and not sure about loyalty.
And yet I think Rubio did support trump during impeachment sagas and trump appreciated that. I remember the Miami rally in 2020 where trump said Rubio was a friend and trump stood in pouring rain to rally for Rubio. At that rally moment it looked like trump trusted Rubio. They know each other well.
Rubio is articulate , tough fighter, experienced in the senate and handles press monsters like Kristin welker . He is obviously capable and is the appropriate age —early 50s. Rubio presents more experience than JD Vance although JD is my favorite.
The $64,000 question for me is whether a Cuban can bring Mexican / Venezuelan votes. I think he could very effectively campaign in Spanish and this could be very helpful to trump if Hispanics of various stripes like listening to a Cuban. IF IF. IF rubio can bring trump over the top with non-Cuban Hispanics then rubio would be worth very serious consideration in my opinion.
We need to Keep eyes on the ball, we need to WIN on November 5 , 2024 no matter what. If rubio turns out to be tricky and disloyal after the election then trump can handle that.
Rubio has seemed more America First lately. Not sure why. I don’t trust him enough yet to give him a spot like VP.
Correct. He will be Pence 2.0 if he is swlected for VP.
I say NFW to Rubio.
Rubio is a snake and anti-MAGA, except at election time.
I like Ben Carson, but is he rich enough to stand up to the lawfare that will be brought against him, or will he have to fold due to lack of funds?
If he isn’t . . . WE will need to — and WE will, I believe — come to his rescue.
Every thing the Trump team does now is critical and there isn’t room for error, major ones anyway. The VP might not seem too important but it really is. This person could be taking over the job if something prevented PTrump from continuing and that is a very big deal in MAGA continuation at the top levels of govt. If Rubio is the pick I will be greatly disappointed because of everything Rubio has been since we first saw him in 2015. He’s a pure politician and a very shallow one at that. No way should he be anywhere near a cabinet position. Leave him where he is now. Same with DeSantis and Haley. Nada, a big nada, to all of them in my book.
That was the best pro-Trump endorsement have read in a while. Thank you. I don’t live in and vote in US elections but I did live there for many years and follow more closely than any other Anglophone nation (live in Mexico).
But my first thought on Rubio is that he is Gang of Eight and so Establishment through and through. That said, if Trump is going to actually get elected there is going to be much Art of the Deal wheeling going on off stage. With Israel (he is against Netanyahoo), with AIPAC, with Silicon Valley oligarchy, and with various core factions in DC including Intelligence, Foggy Bottom etc.
So I presume there will be some tit for tat quid pro quo ongoing so that Trump will compromise on X in order to be able to do Y. One big one is that he isn’t under attack from lawfare and Intelligence psyops etc. any more. Because if that happens again, his Presidency is a waste of time IMO. So presumably he is negotiating to make it better this time. Whether or not this will become obvious is doubtful, but choosing Rubio might be part of a deal with the Intelligence community who will have their man well positioned to have an eight year presidency starting in 2029.
When I think of Rubio I’m reminded of Pence: Not trustworthy.
A big part of the wheeling and dealing that will spell success for PDJT’s second term WILL come from his VP choice, as he will HAVE to pick an Insrance Policy VP, in order to take removal from office off the table.
The second big hurdle he faces, is the abuse of Advice and Consent, i.e. Senate Confirmation as executed by McConnell last time around. He can not be hamstrung by being dictated to on his team choices, as he was in his first term.
I believe the Fla. case may hold the key to addressing that; IF the result of the case is a legal finding that the classified docs in the 11″ binder are declassified, and so PDJT is free to release them, AND THEY KNOW THIS, he then has leverage;
GIVE me my nominees, OR I’ll release the info. Given all thats gone on with the MAL raid, it seems pretty clear they are TERRIFIED of those documents, so USE it.
And yes, a LOT of work to be done, by US. WE need to do what PDJT can NOT;
Continue to purge RINOS out if State R Parties, up to the controlling Executive Committee level, …
So that we can elect ELection officials that will give us election integrity,..
SO THAT, we can elect MAGA Slates of candidates and gain effective MAGA control of State Governments, so that,…
We can institute Agressive, assertive Federalism to cut down the adminstrative State by attacking “from the bottom up” even as PDJT and his team of wolverines attacks from the Top down.
As any honey badger knows, attacking from the bottom is effective because there is a lot of tender tissue exposed.
Aggressive Federalism can be devastatingly effective at pushing back on Federal overreach.
WE just need MAGA State Gov.’s to do the pushing.
Rubio can’t be Trump’s VP for the EXACT reason that DeSantis can’t be: They ALL Reside in Florida.
My Favorites (in this order) Ben Carson, Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Bonus: Other Cabinet Positions
Vivek -> Chief of Staff
Tulsi-> Sec. Def.
RFK Jr.-> Sec. Health & Human Services
(goal to merge Education back into HEW)
Manchin-> Energy (goal merge NTHSA into Energy Dept, End EPA with current Pollution standards for cars, trucks, locomotives, Aircraft, End CAFE Fuel Economy Standards,
Larry Kudlow-> Treasury
Ron Paul-> Trade & Tarriffs
Steve Bannon-ICE, Homeland Security with goal of deportation of illegals
Sorry Jake, but hard no to Tulsi, RFK, Jr., and Manchin.
Dept of Education needs to be eliminated — education matters need to be returned to the states and localities.
Jimmy Carter left us a very nasty present with that move.
No democrats, period. And isn’t Ron Paul about 90 years old now? Jeez.
Make RFK2 a special prosecutor for all things COVID. Tulsi for Veterans Affairs. Let her prove herself in a lesser position which she would be enthusiastic about.
It’s NOT going to be Marco. My money is on Ben Carson.
I’m sold on Dr. Ben Carson. If he’s Sundance’s pick for Vice President, who am I to go against him? I wanted Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Sarah Palin but Dr. Carson will be just fine. Who better to fight these lefty devils than a true man of God? May God bless us all.
I think Mark Robinson would be amazing. He walks the talk…fearless, he’d scare the Dems witless. The Dems wouldn’t touch PTrump with him in the wings. Just my opinion.
I totally agree.
He is running for governor.
and he should stay there………
I don’t know how anyone can say that don’t care who the VP pick is or that it doesn’t matter. This is the most important decision that Trump must make and depending on who he picks he will have a successful second term or it will be like the first term filled with terrible mistakes and missed opportunities (wouldn’t it have been nice if Trump made peace with Russia as he promised?). When he picked Mike Pence few people knew anything about Pence including I bet Trump himself. Pence looked like he came from central casting and Trump places great importance on looks. Pence turned out to be an Israel-first backstabber.
Rubio is anything but America first, of course, the same could be said about almost everyone on the shortlist. The only person worse than Rubio would be Tom Cotton. In making a VP pick Trump needs to seriously consider someone who would make Trump assassination proof. With Rubio or Cotton as VP, they will take Trump out of office one way or another. Remember what they did to JFK!
The best choices that Trump could make (but won’t) are Rep. Thomas Massie or Senator Rand Paul. Both are very intelligent, honorable, and likable politicians. They are staunchly anti-war and would steer Trump away from terrible decisions that could lead to war. Trump initially was opposed to the Ukraine war but he did a 360 and gave his blessings to sending billions more to Ukraine. He can be talked into anything so it is very important Trump has good people like Massie or Paul around him.
Something for Trump to consider is that if he picks a Rubio or a Cotton to appease the DC establishment millions of his hard-core supporters will be demoralized and feel that the movement has been betrayed and coopted and might stay home on election day. If Trump goes ahead and picks a Rubio or Cotton it means he takes his supporters for granted.
Wasn’t aware of Massie until a couple of folks I follow hinted at his possible selection by Trump for VP. His Wikipedia description shows he’s not a “go along to get along” type person – noted his sensible positions on the important issues, unlike those of many of his colleagues. He’s a successful tech entrepreneur & has held important House committee assignments (Rules; Transportation & Infrastructure; Judiciary; Chairman Subcommittee on Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, & Antitrust; Member Select Subcommittee on Weaponization of Federal Government). His biggest obstacle, in my opinion, is he’s unknown to the public. Checkout his 2-hour interview with Tucker Carlson for a sense of what he’s about ->
I watched that interview and it was one of Tucker’s best. Massie is easily the most likable politician in D.C.. He is a very funny guy and it’s worth watching just for his spot-on impersonation of Mitch McConnell that had Tucker in stitches.
Massie would be the best choice for Trump. He is as you noted a very successful tech entrepreneur in his own right and a graduate of MIT. One of the smartest people on the Hill if not the smartest. Massie would appeal to a broad spectrum of people including those who are concerned with the environment. Massie lives completely off the grid with solar panels that charge a battery he salvaged from a Tesla. He is hands down the greenest politician who doesn’t just talk the talk but walks the walk.
Trump has said in the past that he doesn’t think it matters who the VP pick is. If he believes that why not pick someone good like Massie instead of another scummy Washington swamp creature like Pence? There needs to be a grassroots push from MAGA supporters for Trump to pick Massie. I would be interested in hearing Sundance’s opinion of Massie as VP.
When you compare Massie with the other VP hopefuls in terms of character and intellect there really is not comparison. Tim Scott looks like an imbecile next to Massey.
Maybe, but I remember him and Trump colliding on budget issues I believe. And Trump called him out on it.
WINSOM SEARS FOR VP!
She turned against Trump when the going got rough. No on Winsome Sears in my book.
I like the idea and would love to see her in VP debate vs cackles, but she’s Jamaican-born and I would think ineligible
no
Not eligible
no
Nope – she’s soft.
I can’t understand how anyone could think Rubio is in the running. In 2015, my Wife and I supported Dr Carson. We switched to Trump when we decided he couldn’t win. Dr Carson validated our decision when he endorsed Trump. Dr Carson will have a place in the Trump administration, but not as V.P. Trump’s V.P. has to be able to carry the America First torch into 2029.
People also need to understand how politics works. There’s no need for Trump to dismiss some candidates who have no chance to fill the V.P. slot. Rubio is one example.
If not Carson I like JD Vance..
A big no. He needs to stay in the Senate.
Trust me – NO to Rubio. He is Way to owned by the Administrative State. And his submissiveness to Warner is dangerous. CIA owns them both!!
Kari Lake all the way.
Now watching Kari debate Kackamala would be a real hoot. Put it on PPV with the proceeds going to Trump campaign and there will be a record take.
My vote is for General Flynn to be the AG. He will know just how to command that ship & get rid of ALL the rats on board in double time. Expect the Liberals & Democrat Crime Syndicate to go full-on banshee tantrum law fare attack against anyone Trump puts in that position. Flynn won’t flinch. And that will terrify them even more as they are picked up by their tails & tossed in the slammer (if they’re lucky) each & every one who is found guilty of Treason, Sedition, Murder, Election Interference, Embezzlement, Bribery, Blackmail, Human Trafficking, Drug & Weapons Running, Fraud, Perjury, and a host of other crimes they have been getting away with for years. Just the prospect of Biden Consigliere Garland being OUT & a legitimate law & order AG being in will hopefully send the rats fleeing to Qatar or another country that doesn’t expedite to the US. Hopefully Flynn will have the opportunity to revoke their passports before or after they depart to ensure they can never darken the door of the US again.
Marco Rubio can’t be trusted. He is a tepid camelian at best. At worst he is of the same ilk as Paul Ryan.
I have long had concerns about General Flynn. In the months leading up to the 2016 election when Flynn was spending a lot of time with Trump, the Israeli spyware firm NSO (a division of Israeli intelligence) paid Flynn a cool $100K to “consult” for them. NSO makes the Pegasus spyware that can be planted on a smartphone with just one phone call. Pegasus is able to turn on your smartphone camera and mic without you knowing about it. Flynn used to be the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and must have known how dangerous the software was. Did Flynn unintentionally seed the Pegasus spyware on Trump’s smartphone with a simple phone call?
The Daily Mail wrote about Flynn’s work for NSO https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9806709/NSO-Group-spent-millions-Washington-lobbyists-woo-government-pushed-Pegasus-spyware.html
How about Adm Mike Rogers? This is the *patriot* who warned President Trump that his transition team at the Trump Hotel was being wiretapped by B Hussein Obola.
If you believe anything that is published by the British left-wing Daily Mail your BS detector is broken. Concentrate on fixing it before you question a patriot like Gen. Flynn.
The Daily Mail is considered right wing in the UK, and they were the only ones defending PDJT in 2016. They helped blow open a lot of the dots that we could connect concerning the Russia hoax.
Whoever can help Trump win swing voters in swing states and get to 270 electoral votes. Need a tough, proven winner of elections. Not Carson, Lake, Flynn, or Bannon. Swing voters want clear policies on the economy, crime, immigration, de-regulation, and individual liberty.
None of the above have a proven track record. Carson is to old. Carson could be a cabinet member. Lake needs to win a senate seat first. Too inexperienced for a national campaign. Flynn’s Christian nationalism would turn off Jewish voters in PA, a must-win state. Bannon?????
Carson is not too old to be Vice President, and his appeal is that he is not a career politician. Is Trump too old to be President? Carson’s calm demeanor and competence is an attraction to swing voters especially independents. I think he’s the perfect running mate.
Trump needs someone who can run on his own in 2028, and again in 2032 to continue Trump’s legacy. What would Carson be like at age 80 in 2032? Active and smart like Trump or senile like Biden?
I respectfully disagree, I think Carson doesn’t need to run in 2028 or 2032. And Carson is just as sharp as Trump and his background and professional experience is proof of this. More importantly he is not a politician which most Americans today see as the root of all our problems .
I think the VP should continue the Trump legacy. Less chance of another Dem getting in and undoing what Trump has done, as Biden is doing now.
A wide open primary would also be unwise.
Carson would be drag on Trump. I hope and pray Trump does not pick him.
I hope and pray Trump does choose Dr. Carson.
The Legacy issue will take care of itself.
Are any of the others smarter? Calmer? Compassionate? as when Dr. Carson deals with the less-than- honest media? And yet he always wins the point?
He’s light years ahead of the others in the field — those who appear as the main contenders in this particular fishing expedition.
Calm? Compassionate? Are we electing someone who will be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office or a choosing a doctor?
Carson would be a boring, unimpressive, weak dud. Iran, North Korea and China would look at Carson and laugh.
it is a dangerous world out there, and the world is coming across our border.
After Biden, I doubt seriously China would laugh at Carson or any other Republican candidate.
This is just a fallacy. More than anything else, Trump needs impeachment insurance. That is the number one qualification needed for his VP pick (aside from the person being able and qualified to be POTUS). Trump is a unicorn, there is only one. Between 2024 and 2028, someone will emerge as the MAGA heir, but it has no bearing on the 2024 candidate for Trump VP. Preventing impeachment and conviction is the only critical quality for his pick.
Considering his background, Dr. Carson is one of the few people I could trust to operate on the cancer destroying America and leave the patient breathing when he’s done.
I believe that choosing a Floridian would play directly in the hands of the Democrats ! I know, they shred the Constitution at every chance they get . . . but they will also use it if and when it helps their cause.
In this case, the Constitution would be on their side (see Article II as amended by the Twelve Amendment). They would use the courts to throw the FL grand electors’ votes out for the election of the Vice President . . . which means that we would most probably end up with Kamala Harris as VP to President Trump (assuming the election is not stolen from him/us).
PDJT continues to say, at his rallies, that they caught them all. He knows who the “snakes” are this time, so there’s no way, IMO, that he chooses Rubio or any mainstay politician. It won’t sit well with the MAGA crowd. They are all Uniparty snakes.
He reads that Snake bit aloud to remind everyone that he’s aware about his bad inclusions around him from his past time. He is actually saying to us,
“I’m sorry. I did make bad mistakes with some of my staff decisions. But, I’m still on top of things. I’ll get it right for you. Just watch me.”
Trump followed the same plan Reagan did by bringing the RINO’s and MAGA together under the same roof. It was a logical plan, considering how many RINO’s are in the GOP and how much power they wield.
You guys hail Reagan as a prescient hero, while you castigate Trump’s choices.
In football parlance, it’s the same thing as a hail mary. If it works, the coach is a genius. If it doesn’t work, the coach is dumb. And the spectators always pretend to be smarter than the coach on the Monday morning after the game.
Lee Zelden
Zeldin….
I like Lee Zelden — Chief of Staff?
Not for VP. but maybe Solicitor General?
I agree because for whatever reason, I havent been particularly hung up on who Trump chooses to be his running mate. Ben Carson has always been my first pick. Speaking in conventional political terms, I dont think Rubio would add anything to the ticket, as they say.
However, Im not sure why Sundance wants to belabor the point that he doesnt think that Trump “massively failed” at anything. I understand not criticizing the man in the arena who is all alone. But the fact remains, that if he had handled the “pandemic” response differently, namely, not signed the “15 days to slow the spread”, the election would not have been able to be stolen from him.
Call it what you want, but its just a fact. Ignoring it is counterproductive. I guarantee you he would acknowledge the mistakes he made in his presidency, and Id bet a lot of money he would say that was one of them, if not the biggest.
Hogwash. You guys can pretend to be Monday morning quarterbacks all you want, but Trump is not a doctor, and no amount of wishful thinking on your part will ever make Trump a doctor. Trump had no choice but to listen to the medical advice he was receiving…..because, of course, Trump is not a doctor. If Trump had gone against the advice of the doctors, they’d have thrown him in jail for murder. You can pretend to not know that all you want, but the rest of us saw the dance for what it was.
They had seen horrifying new projections from the Imperial College in London that showed millions dying if more extreme measures were not taken. Chastened by the new data, the president’s demeanor changed.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/inside-the-white-house-coronavirus-response-153058
Hogwash. Whether Trump is a doctor or not is irrelevant. If public policy was solely determined by doctors, everyone would be confined to their homes indefinitely. Public policy is made from a combination of medical, economic, social, etc… factors. The “15 days to slow the spread” was solely a medical consideration. Besides, who would have thrown the sitting president in jail, and how?
You guys are completely clueless as to how govt. even works. And this one statement alone is probably one of the most clueless I’ve ever read…..
If public policy was solely determined by doctors, everyone would be confined to their homes indefinitely.
There’s this thing called an “Act.” It was passed in 1944. It’s called the Public Health Service Act of 1944. It applies to the CDC, aka, DOCTORS….. It states that the CDC director (who is a doctor, btw) is “authorized to make and enforce such regulations as in his judgment are necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of communicable diseases .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK583902/
I’m sure your posts might fly on Reddit where people are far less informed, but you’ll not get too far here….
15 days was all he recommended. Go back and read.
The decision to open one’s state was entirely up to each Governor so I don’t know why you have an issue with Trump’s 15 day policy. The policy decision was encouraged by the medical advisors to Trump who were alarmed at the tremendous loss of life at the time. I love how people forget the environment we were dealing with in early 2020. I guess hindsight always affords a different perspective. Anyway Blue state Governors would have ignored Trump regardless of what he advised, and I guess you forgot that Trump stated in March 2020 that he wanted the economy up and running again by Easter.
I think Dawg has been asleep for the last ten years.
“Besides, who would have thrown the sitting president in jail, and how?”
Somehow it’s escaped his notice that they’ve been trying to throw Trump in jail for the last ten years and charged him with over 88 crimes, and that’s not even including January 6th “insurrection,” the fake impeachment, and the Russian collusion hoax. And he’s wondering who would ever try to throw a president in jail.
A lot of us knew that the 15 days was the camel’s nose under that tent. I don’t blame him for doing it, but I knew when it happened that the left would take the opportunity to shut things down for much longer than 15 days.
“I can see him liking Senator Rubio, because….”
Trump received an offer he can’t refuse?
If he picks Rubio then you’re probably correct about that offer.
Trump’s hatred of the intelligence community and Rubio’s alignment with it eliminates him as the pick BUT Trump want’s to give him street cred for a possible ‘28 run to keep Rubio voting the MAGA agenda and flatter his ego as a major player.
Rubio is anti-MAGA, no matter what BS he spews.
Doug Burtgum makes no sense as a vp choice . North Dakota ? Has to be a plant .
Regardless of what your opinion of John McCain or Sarah Palen is remember how campaign damaging Palen’s VP selection was. Fair or unfair. The VP selection is far from inconsequential.
The only time McCain was ahead in the polls was right after the Palin selection. Then his staff undermined her and McCain made his bonehead play on the economic meltdown.
I may get zinged with arrows on this one, but based on his strong principled stands, book on the role of fatherhood, great presentations at CPAC and others, and his take-no-prisoners approach to questioning the Deep State… I like Josh Hawley.
I would absolutely think of Ben Carson as a righteous choice, but my fear, deep down, is that he just wouldn’t be able to rationalize the depth of evil he would be opposing. Perhaps I’m wrong, and he would rise with sword and shield in hand… but in lieu of Ben, I do like the fight in Hawley. And he’s seen the Swamp up-close and personal for several years now in the Senate. It’s my belief that he can articulate the argument for any particular strong action better than almost any of his peers in Congress. And he’s been on the front line of trying expose the depths of depravity of this government.
My input? No, to Rubio, or any other establishment GOPe. That being said, “Watch and see! For it will not be by the hand of man, nor by the power of the arm of the flesh that you shall be saved and delivered, but it shall be by The Power of My Spirit and the strength of My Might that you shall overcome and overthrow your enemies, for I AM the champion of those who cannot help themselves.”
Ben Carson is loyal and smart. However, he is also old. Trump is not just selecting a VP, he is selecting a political heir. Agree that shouldn’t be Rubio. This would be as disastrous as Reagan selecting Bush. Why not Vance?
Sundance: “JD Vance has some tenuous network affiliations in his background that give me a little pause…”
He’s worthy of a deeper dive, but we must be careful about Vance. We simply must be careful not be get “Penced” again.
The best advice on Vance is to read his book “Hillbilly Elegy”, published in 2016. It’s a great book, and tells a meaningful American story, but in 2016, I was fully on board the Trump Train, and canvassed for PDJT in PA prior to the election. At that same time, when Vance’s book was published, he was very reserved about Trump and offered no signs of real support. It wasn’t until years later that he began to exhibit serious support for Trump and MAGA. I don’t trust people who move with the wind, and that’s how I see JD. He needs more time. A big no on VP.
Where should former National Security Agency Director and commander of U.S. Cyber Command Admiral Mike Rogers serve under Trump?
Came here to post that same question. I’d be ok with him for VP over Rubio just on the tiny bit we know about him uncovering at least some of the corruption. I know little about him other than that. Surely could be good in the Cabinet? I think I like Flynn for VP more just b/c I think he’d have motivation to do the right things after the railroading he took.
Jail?
NO to Rubio.
No to Dr. Carson, too.
Dr. Carson is such a kind and decent person. However, I question his strength in times of adversity.
When the bloB and their media decide to go ape-poo on President Trump, will Dr. Carson be able to
strongly stand in defiance to the media narrative? I hope so, but I am not convinced.
As the attacks arrive, we cannot have anyone who is soft-spoken.
The vp needs to be able to boldly/loudly refute whatever their narrative might be.
Sarah or Elise S. might work. JD Vance looks pretty good, too. Bergum…maybe.
Foam parties
He’s an awful choice. Part of the problem. The VEEP carries the mantle. I love Carson- bad campaigner. Rubio is a horrible pick for maga.
Well said. I could not agree more.
What about an unknown. A retired military person? One of the “good Generals”, not the TV Generals. Not Flynn. He is a politician. I don’t have any names in mind. There are a lot of good, honest, experienced Americans who can serve as VP.
I have someone in mind that might fix the bill. I would suggest Lieutenant Colonel (Ret.) Allen West be Trump’s best VP pick. He is a Christian constitutional conservative, a combat veteran, a former Member of the US Congress from Florida, the Executive Director for The American Constitutional Rights Union, and a former Texas GOP Chair, who now lives in Texas.
Which is why the evil ones will never allow Trump to ever get back into the White House.
I hope to God Trump doesn’t decide he needs Rubio on the ticket. Rubio is more compromised than Mike Pence was and will end up undermining Trump wherever the Uni-Party needs him to perform.
This can not happen- NO WAY RUBIO. MAGA will lose hope. We need strong moral coding and a macho leader like the President to be his successor. Can General Flynn fill a stadium? He’s working on raising his profile to that end. He’s on the cover of the New American this month.
I believe that Trump will almost surely be assassinated if Rubio is made vice president.
Sundance,
He’s not going to choose anyone from Florida. Rules for electoral college voting state that each elector has two votes – one for president and one for vice president; HOWEVER, the elector may not cast BOTH of those votes for people from the same state. (Remember that in 2000, Cheney went back to Wyoming to establish residency, rather than where he lived in Texas, the same state as W.) I can’t remember exactly who would choose the VP if it were close and say Trump were elected president but the original VP candidate had one vote less and didn’t make it. It’s too messy a scenario when the election outcome may be close.
I should have stated the CONSTITUTION states this…not just “rules.”
While this doesn’t reflect on Sen. Rubio’s political caliber, he isn’t an Art. II, §1, Cl. 5 natural-born Citizen of the United States. As Republicans, we can’t turn our backs on the provisions of the Constitution when it becomes inconvenient.
Republicans and everyone else let his citizenship eligibility pass when Rubio ran for President. The only place I’ve ever even seen it mentioned was in the comment sections on various Websites. Either it’s true or it isn’t which I personally have never been able to sort out.
Trump needs a VP tough enough to turn loose on purging the major evil players in our government as it may be the last opportunity to do it and save the nation for a few more years. That should be his first priority. If that is not accomplished, 2028 won’t matter at all!!
Thank you SD, 1000% agree! Carson was my man before Trump but we need both right now more than ever!
Sundance,
Sans another corrupt/stolen election, Trump will win handily, irrespective of his VP Choice. So, isn’t the crucial VP selection criteria who can most effectively/consequentially assist Trump in pursuing his 2024 agenda. Secondarily, who would be most likely to carry forth Trump’s agenda in 2028. I concur with contributor Keith_’s suggestion of Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie. From my previous post: Wasn’t aware of Massie until a couple of folks I follow hinted at his possible selection by Trump for VP. His Wikipedia description shows he’s not a “go along to get along” type person – noted his sensible positions on the important issues, unlike those of many of his colleagues. He’s a successful tech entrepreneur & has held important House committee assignments (Rules; Transportation & Infrastructure; Judiciary; Chairman Subcommittee on Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, & Antitrust; Member Select Subcommittee on Weaponization of Federal Government). His biggest obstacle, in my opinion, is he’s unknown to the public. Checkout his 2-hour interview with Tucker Carlson for a sense of what he’s about ->
Hope you will take a closer look at Massie…
If I had a mic at a town hall I would ask Rubio … You’ve been on the Senate Intel Committee for some time. Please explain:
The overarching requirement for the position of VP under Trump is that he or she supports Israel over and above the USA. Find that person and you have found your future VP.
You are being sarcastic, correct?
Both are from Florida so I am still confused on if the Constitution would allow it. Am I missing something here?