When CNN announced they were hosting two debates for the GOPe candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire, the supposition was that the RNC had given two debates to the network. The assumption was because the RNC, and the four remaining first-loser candidates, had previously held an agreement that only RNC sanctioned debates would be permitted, and the candidates would only attend RNC sanctioned debates.
However, it turns out that fake news CNN went rogue in organizing the unsanctioned debates.
There are multiple facets worth considering, and considerable ramifications within the entire construct.
First, the RNC didn’t even know about the plans of CNN. “The respective debates, set for Jan. 10 in Des Moines and Jan. 21 just outside Manchester, aren’t sanctioned by the RNC, which has organized the first four debates, including Wednesday night’s broadcast in Alabama,” according to Politico. Additionally, “campaigns have continuously complained about current RNC rules, which say a candidate who participates in an unsanctioned debate is barred from future RNC-approved gatherings. But the RNC’s debate committee is expected to meet Friday to discuss officially removing that rule, according to three people with knowledge of the group’s plans.”
Fake News CNN lived up to their nickname by not even informing the debate venues of their plan prior to yesterday’s announcement. It’s all very weird and curious:
(New York Times) – […] With great fanfare this week, CNN announced it would host the network’s first debate of the 2024 presidential campaign, gathering the Republican candidates for a marquee event on Jan. 21 at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire.
There was only one problem: Saint Anselm had no idea what CNN was talking about.
“We were surprised to be included on a press release by a network about a debate which we had not planned or booked,” Neil Levesque, executive director of the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm, said in a statement on Friday.
The chairman of New Hampshire’s Republican Party, Chris Ager, went a little further. “The CNN thing came out and everybody’s like, ‘What the heck?’” Mr. Ager said in an interview. “I’m still scratching my head. And I still haven’t been contacted by CNN at all.” (more)
By midday on Friday, CNN was being battered with questions from Republicans, candidates and other media outlets. It’s all just seemingly bizarre.
The RNC made an official statement today saying the RNC is no longer hosting debates for the 2024 GOP primary. This is a little funny considering that Donald Trump never participated, and the candidates who aligned with the RNC debates have lower support numbers now than before the debate series began.
WASHINGTON – The Republican National Committee is pausing its participation in 2024 GOP primary debates, the organization decided Friday.
The RNC’s decision, made by a 16-member internal body, means that any forthcoming debates will be hosted by networks independently of the committee. Two outlets — ABC and CNN — have announced plans to host future debates in Iowa and New Hampshire ahead of early state voting. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis already said he will attend CNN’s planned Iowa debate before next month’s caucuses and ABC’s planned New Hampshire debate.
“We have held four successful debates across the country with the most conservative partners in the history of a Republican primary. We have no RNC debates scheduled in January and any debates currently scheduled are not affiliated with the RNC,” the RNC’s Committee on Presidential Debates said in a statement. “It is now time for Republican primary voters to decide who will be our next President and candidates are free to use any forum or format to communicate to voters as they see fit.” (more)
Essentially, it all boils down to this. The RNC initially thought they could stop Trump; however, the RNC debate series intended to generate that narrative has failed miserably. Donald Trump is supported more now than he was when the field of first-loser candidates assembled against him. Having failed, the RNC backs away slowly.
The CNN announcement, and the gleeful almost immediate acceptance by DeSantis et al, reflects a general desperation. The effort to stop Trump now falls on the leftist corporate media, who are aligned with the remaining four GOP candidates: DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswamy and Christie.
The agreement and alignment between the remaining candidates, and the corrupt media apparatus, only highlights the fraudulent reason those candidates were assembled in the first place. The ‘stop Trump’ effort was/is the purpose of their candidacy; actually, winning the GOP nomination was/is irrelevant. This non-pretending reality exposes the strings on the four remaining marionettes.
It is serendipitous the events rolled out the way they did. Fraudulent men had plans, but God has a sense of humor. The implosion of a heavily controlled GOP field is only spotlighted more by the few remaining candidates continuing to compete for first-loser status.
Why would any Republican agree to a CNN debate knowing the nature of the lies and fraud CNN has pushed for the past several years. Any normally minded Republican candidate would never agree or participate, and therein lies the point. These are not normally minded politicians; their agenda is something else entirely.
President Donald Trump is unlikely to participate in any debate. The premise of the debates themselves is silly, and the only reason the candidates are agreeing to more debates is that the corporate and billionaire donors to them are demanding every effort be exhausted. At this point it is pathetic.
Looking forward to debating in Iowa! https://t.co/qeCvrTLwqy
— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 7, 2023
📊 2024 National Republican Primary
• Trump — 64% (+50)
• Haley — 14%
• DeSantis — 7%
• Ramaswamy — 4%
• Christie — 4%
• Hutchinson — 2%
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H2H:
• Trump — 76% (+53)
• Haley — 23%Emerson (A-) | 446 RVs | 12/04-06https://t.co/wKjFTYIRvb pic.twitter.com/5DN46bNaxC
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) December 8, 2023
I relate to the cat.
I know- I get a good laugh every time I see that cat.
That is hysterical! Cats are the best
Me too! Love the cat!
Cats are much easier to think about than to try and face the real world problems Americans now face.
Another Romney emasculated.
They’re both ballless.
Actually I think Ronna has ONE, as it takes SOME balls to bahave as she dies, but Mitt lost his long ago,…just like his DAD.
Mitt didn’t really put his dog in that cage on the roof of his car. What was REALLY in there was his balls. He lost them somewhere on the Interstate in Utah.
She’s not totally emasculated until Ronna is removed from head of the RNC.
Ir is totally annoying & submits you to more calla for donations, but every survey i get where I can respond without donating, I tell them I am not donating to a party whose leaders are McDaniel, McConnell & McCarthy.
The 4 debaters last week are starved for attention & ego stroking. Of course, they’ll go to whatever network who gives them free airtime.
I have to say I appreciate Vivek the most for nipping at their heels.
Puts on a good show doesn’t he?
Almost like he knows what we want to hear.
When YOU’RE ACTUALLY ” a Snake Oil Salesman “…
The Rainmaker
I get constant text messages asking me for money. As Elon Musk would say, they can go fk themselves.
Report as Junk and delete
Watch in the next 2 weeks how CNN “discovers” a new AND very scientific “Poll” showing Vivek with not enough % support to be on stage with the other clowns. (He tears them all apart everytime and must be stopped.) At the same time, Christie’s Poll numbers will be fattened up to keep his bloated ass on the stage. For sure.
The political elites are not getting it. Americans know that only Trump can save America. If Trump is not the next President then it doesn’t matter who is, all is lost.
Oh, they get it. Thats WHY they oppose ‘Trump’ BECAUSE they well understand he is the only one that can save America, and they want America destroyed, as it is a major impediment to their great reset plan.
It is why Humper was finally charged with tax evasion. He & James Biden (who is most likely going to be indicted very soon) will not be tried in 2024–that would be election interference. FJB will step down in mid ’24. The Ho will become president, will pardon the entire Biden crime family & then, if push comes to shove, cancel 2024 elections due to fallout from a pandemic or MAGA supporters & Trump. It’s that or they bust out Michelle Ovomit at or by the DNC convention to take the DNC nomination, who then pardons the Bidens after the ballot count in the election.
And that’s if we’re not in WWIII by late summer. In that case, elections are out, FJB is a war-time president & we’re really FUBARed with wide open borders.
Notice that Humper/Hoover/Hunter was not charged with any FARA (Foreign Agent Registration Act) violations.
We can still beat them at the local and state level. They only rule by our consent. Don’t put all your eggs in the Trump basket.
If the CNN debates fall apart and don’t take place, fake news will declare “Republicans too chicken to debate on CNN”.
We have finally moved on to …we don’t care what the fake media says ……
>> “we don’t care what the fake media says”
They are demonic liars, so I personally count everything they say as lying cr@p; on the other hand, I do care a lot because it bothers me immensely that 1) they still have an FCC license in the first place, and 2) there are adults (or even children) that actually pay attention to their barf.
In fact, today I was sitting in the waiting room for more than an hour between doctor appointments, and I was disgusted at the totally shameless raw propaganda the hospital was pumping out into the waiting room. The entire programming schtick all day long was pure big pharma puke.
I would find the remote and change the station.
TOTALLY.
So thecsame goes for Biden and democrats! Where are your democrat debates????
It sure does but we don’t have media to pound the message.
So what; only idiots pay attention to the Fake News.
Question: if the GOP nominee died AFTER the convention what happens? I’d Google it but I wouldn’t trust the answer. Anybody know?
Most likely their executive board and by-laws control this event.
A few decades ago, all nomination decisions were done in private, in the back smoke filled rooms. The nation waited breathlessly to see who the Old Pols would pick as their party nominee.
Expect the same to happen with the Democrats this year. Political parties are private operations. They make their own rules and procedures. They are not government operations. NO President should ever push one private third party operation over another; nor denigrate one over the other.
Paragraph two.
Then, as the age of television rolled out, both parties decided to gin up enthusiasm by having a fake contest, like a fixed horse race. They STILL picked the nominee “behind closed doors” but set up primaries/caucuses and had a # of candidates compete, and while the party maintained that they were neutral, kept their thumb on the scale to control the outcome.
Well said. Juan McShame being “picked” in 2008 for the Repukes and The Kenyan out of no where for the NWO Marxist Demorats. Same with Squish Romney in 2012.
The NWO Communist Kenyan was the planned and picked winning puppet for the “Fundamental Transformation of America” by the WEF globalist, Wall Street bankers and Multinational Corporation, etc.
Hilldawg Clinton was the “pick” to finish the WEF plans in 2016, but Donald Trump and the rise of MAGA thwarted their plans.
The Plandemic fueled stolen election of 2020, the blatantly obvious stolen election from Kari Lake/ team in Arizona and the purposefully dismal failure of the installed corrupt Zombie Baked Potato has millions of people “awakened” from the godless “woke” agenda of the western world’s WEF 🐮💩.
That is why the Uniparty, their propaganda media machine, sellout politicians, et. al hate Donald Trump and the MAGA America First supporters. There are more of us than they are of them and they know it. We are now seeing the vicious desperation and fear they are showing now.
And then it’s hold your nose & vote.
The cat should run as Trump’s V.P.
The cat’s BS detector is finely tuned.
It is obvious by his expression that he knows what is afoot!
No foolin’ him.
Suspicious cat should have been v. p. Instead of pence… far more savvy!!
But…but pence looks like a super hero in that photo above, peering into the face of his nemesis…
turning my sarcasm thing off now…
“Why would any Republican agree to a CNN debate knowing the nature of the lies and fraud CNN has pushed for the past several years.”
Exactly. If they were real their response would be FO.
So, what we have here is a definitive Litmus Test where the test strip literally turned bright blue and then blew up.
Didn’t we already go thru this with Lester Holt?
Guess I could care less if CNN is hosting a couple of these not worthwhile debates.
In case people forget, they hosted a Trump town hall too. So really, who gives two poops
“Lord, what fools these mortals be.”
Poor John Kasich, now he will never build any more momentum.
Especially with John Bolton gaining.
My very first thought when I saw the headline is exactly what Sundance was saying. They will do anything to dump Trump. They are so far indebted to the Billionaire Class that they can’t back down now, even though this may destroy them Politically. When you sell your soul, you can never get it back.
One billionaire = on vote
Me = one vote
Carry on.
I was thinking about having a debate in my basement. Maybe Desantis will come.
I will.
Do you have a bar with a popcorn machine? I’ll be there!
Proving yet again, CNN is a CIA-fronted disinformation operation.
Hey, Ronna!
better watch out for Kevin, sista, he may be shoving you off your perch
Vivek would be awesome in her job, provided he’s rrally a MAGA Republican
Suspicious Cat is definitely on to something here.
A continuing Clown Show/Circus. By both the RNC & CNN.
I am NOT interested.
MAGA – DJT is it, a write in, if not on the ballot. I am NOT alone.
😉
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This is rivaling the Nevada Republican debacle — where a caucus AND a primary are being held, but to which the candidates had to declare which one they would be participating in — as the most clown-filled three-ring circus of the year . . .
On the same day we learn that Reid Hoffman a billionaire Biden mega donor has put $250,000 into Haley’s campaign. The donors are the ones behind this for sure.
I don’t mind watching Ramaswampy throw dung in CNNs face on their stage
They may, as a part of the RNC backing away, try to push Vivek OUT.
I have been really hard on him, and I still don’t trust him at all, but I gotta say he NAILED Nikki and really the other three.
IF he IS a fake, and controlled op pretending to be MAGA, he’s still shooting Ronna and NIKKI, and even Chrispy Creme down, big time.
That “name 3 provinces in Ukraine” was priceless!
I think he may be more like a Judas goat.
I would not be surprised, at all, if, at a critical moment, he drops out and endorses President Trump.
My take is Vivek is not a fake, fake like all out lib pretending to be conservative, but some of his own ideas are a little crazy and I can’t think of a more unequipped person to deal with foreign or domestic affairs. He may even believe in some of the MAGA ideas he’s gleaned from Trump but how does that even begin to relate to being President of the United States. In my view it doesn’t. I agree he thinks fast on his feet and anything more he can say to discombobulate the phonies in the upcoming debates will be fun to see and if it discredits them in some way with the few public that watch that’s a good thing.
Reid Hoffman = one vote
Me = one vote
That is how it works in the big picture, Reid. Save your money.
Translation: McRona needs the rest of the donor money for wardrobe, hair, makeup & flowers.
Maybe a little teeny-tiny bonus for the state party peons that voted for her loserAss again.
Actually, she gets 10%, MOST of the $ the RNC gets goes to political consultants, pollsters etc and a lot of media buys, and a lot thru State Parties Executive committees, THATS why they keep voting for her.
There is not a single CNN viewer that has the opinion of CNN as a legitimate and truthful news source that will ever vote for any of the first losers.
its ridiculousness
and for all those that know CNN is fake and propaganda wont vote for any of the first losers either.
Its a Lose Lose situation
Thank you lord Jesus!
Unless the intent is to get all the cross-over primary voters on the same page with the never-Trumpers.
The Cat knows how I feel.
The GOP is a company in the middle of a proxy war. One that its fortune 400 stake holders will lose.
Hostile takeovers are brutal but in the end, everyone on the short side gets sacked.
Forget the debates for a bit. I think the Intelligence community has it all mapped out already.
Assassination is their last option. Tucker alluded to it the other day. So did CTH.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/04/subtle-like-a-brick-through-a-window-cia-outlet-approves-donald-trump-assassination/
There aren’t any real options left. If they would succeed, and likely they would.. having much experience worldwide.
The maga/ nationalist movement has gone global with recent elections.
Milei, Wilders, & hopefully Trump.
So where would that leave the MAGA movement? In a major pickle. Trump is our murder weapon against the weaponized everything. What person could step up in his place, run against any primary candidate, whether they be D, R, Independent. Everyone else is bought, paid for, and the same UniParty big govt vulture, they all feed off of.
Even an assassination wouldn’t result in a civil war. 150 years ago, most probably would. Today, doubtful.
Who could step into Donald J Trump’s shoes, and do what needs to be done. I can’t think of even 1 person. Can you?
Kari Lake…like Trump she never held a political office before, so that “experience” BS won’t cut it.
Yes Kari is the obvious choice, just as she is the obvious ONLY choice for VP.
However, I reject Citizen 817’s premise.
I believe we have reached a critical mass point, where MAGA movement (Worldwide Nationalist responce to Globullusts) can NOT be stopped, sidetracked, derailed and certainly not decapitated.
Read Stillwaters prayer; the list of those who HAVE stepped up and risked it all is impressive, and every day Stillwater is adding new names.
There eventual defeat is assured, read again the story of the tower of Babel.
WE and GOD will prevail.
Agreed,
Assassination!!
Good gracious..the U.S. would implode.
President Trumps true popularity is “ off the charts” and average Americans are disgusted, dismayed, and distraught.
It is possible that I am being over reactive, however my hatred for what these c@*ts are doing to President Trump and decent patriotic Americans is demonic.
All bets would be off!
Cheers!
I pray you are right, Dutchman. I want to be wrong.
Agree to reject. The thought of the worst happening is in most of the minds of Pres. Trump’s supporters, I would guess. We don’t pretend.
Bringing it up on this site multiple times (as we have seen in other comments over the past week or so) is really unnecessary.
Kari Lake or his son. That said, the assassination would likely fail, making Trump even stronger.
The assumption was because the RNC, and the four remaining first-loser candidates, had previously held an agreement that only RNC sanctioned debates would be permitted, and the candidates would only attend RNC sanctioned debates.
I was under the impression that the debate between DeSanctimonious and Gabbin’ Nuisance was not sanctioned.
Now I know that it was promoted as a debate between Democrat and Republican governors, but let us not kid ourselves, both of those governors are presidential hopefuls.
It seems like rule bending for DeSanctimonious in my opinion.
One of the better examples of a circular firing squad this year.
So the RNC, in their infinite “wisdom” and ego thought they’d be in a much different place months ago than they are now, and forgot to cancel.
Pathetic.
Krispicreme’s support demonstrates the number of ethically challenged folks who parade around as conservatives.
He’s a one-trick pony if ever there was one.
7%! Lol
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Here’s a theory: CNN will use their debates to further the “Trump Dictator” angle, seeding the country with “understandable reasoning” if/when some poor soul gets set up to take Trump out.
Maybe one of the remaining candidates has agreed to push that angle on national TV. Maybe they hope to goad Trump into making an appearance to respond to those charges.
I know. Naive of me to anticipate only one candidate would spout the UniParty prevarication.
Why is Christie still running!
He has no shame!
He has made it known he’s only there to ankle bite PDJT.
For a fat oaf, he’s mighty small.
Have you seen the pre-debate spread ?
Running? He can barely waddle.😉
I didn’t know that he could. <rimshot>
Sounds like a case of the pols’ old favorite fallback of “plausible deniability” to me..
Ironically, this last ditch gamble could now well lead to a wholesale bloodletting throughout the entire RNC apparatus itself post-nomination.
But like they say, “When you’ve got nothing, there’s nothing left to lose!”
CNN swats the RNC
Why would any republican candidate independently agree to a debate sponsored by CNN? Normally it would be a trap for them. This time it will simply be a bash Trump night (which hurts them even more).
It’s globalists vs America firsters and the republican establishment sides with the globalists. They’re bound and determined to take Trump out, BAMN, because they know they won’t be able to steal enough votes in 2024.
I will say that despite all, I do enjoy when Ramaswamy gets started and goes after the rest of them. His statement to Christie in the last debate, about leaving and going out for a nice dinner, was really amusing.
The elite totalitarians are absolutely disgusting. It is clear. We no longer need a Republican Party. Whig ’em!
The RNC is basically insignificant, and without meaning these days. They have, through their own actions made themselves completely irrelevant! The organization either needs to reorganize itself to look more like today’s Republican voter or it needs to die a quick but insignificant death, and be rebuilt in the image of today’s Republican voter.
It will give Vivek a chance to destroy Van Jones and fake news CNN. He’s President Trump’s Luca Brasi.
I would rather hear nails on a chalkboard than waste my time watching a Soviet debate between comrade A and comrade B.
I am thinking Ronna McDaniel knew about it but had not announced it to the rest of the RNC. The CNN leak was premature and without McDaniel’s knowledge. I just think CNN jumped the shark!
Wouldn’t Meatball be barred from any RNC debate becasue of his Debate with the CA Gov Grewsome? If these were RNC debates.
Just like Dems they do what ever they want. Change any rule they want and say whatever they want. It’s no holds barred.
The fake news is ran like the old soap operas and reality shows. You can miss months of the shows and tune back in and the story’s never change but the new names of the prosecutors and the defendants
IMO, If the ‘contestants’ were less stupid, maybe they should have unified and told CNN to pound sand.
Pawn of the media or pawn of RNC elite donors….goodness I guess both choices suk.
THE republican party truly looks like the Keystone Cops. Embarrassing. Trump all the way and if God is with him there’s nothing they or anyone else can do to stop him.