Twitter owner Elon Musk went full wolverine earlier today during remarks at the ‘New York TImes’ DealBook Summit’ on a wide-ranging interview including anti-semitism, an advertiser boycott, Tesla, AI and more.
I have been skeptical of Mr. Musk, particularly over the mechanics of his purchase against the backdrop of DHS/FBI control elements; his remarks today are going viral. WATCH:
Despite continued reservations about Mr. Musk, I appreciate and respect his candor.
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He’s getting red-pilled right before our eyes. He’s not so preachy anymore, huh?
Only if he endorses President Trump.
He’ll probably tell people to vote for RFK.
He won’t tell anyone how to vote. He’ll just lay out the parameters of the problem (the Democrat-Communist Authoritarians) … and let you come to your own conclusion.
If he continues to go “full Wolverine” the implicit endorsement may be just as(or possibly more) effective.
I think if pushed into a corner he’ll endorse Pres. Trump.
Right now if he does that he’ll have more opposition and complication in his life. But one final push by the Puppet Masters of ol’Brandon and he’ll go there.
Elon has already said he backs DeSantis.
Did he really? Well that’s no longer an option.
Political defense posturing. John Lennon was murdered because he dared to say the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. Martin Luther King jr was murdered because he said things which made people in power VERY uncomfortable. Do we imagine that the things Elon might say could never result in his murder?
The Date on the Calendar has changed a lot over time. But people have NOT.
I doubt Elon RINO Musk is in anyway organic
He created OpenAI and now owns the largest data mining operation in the world: Twitter/X
ALL his MEMES would of been tested, mapped, and will be monitored and monetized
he is a bit like Swami, there is some AI meme generation company or software or vendor ecosystem selling, coaching and training to Vivek and Musk on how to MAGA MEME
Trump probably benefits from a similar operation, however, Trump is sui generis, he is the originator, the creator, the fountan head of MAGA
Trump is organic Full Spectrum MAGA
Musk is inorganic, AI driven Cultural MAGA
if Musk was so awesome he would shutdown his factories in China, instead China is his biggest market
remember, Musk wants to embed Twitter in your kids brains and connect to satellite to his advertisers
https://culturalmaga.com/p/136-fake-victories-of-florida-and-twitter
if musk were so awesome, he would have told the world that the USDOJ had asked for the identities of everyone who followed trump on twitter, despite the gag order
everytime RINO Musk MAGA Memes Twitter explodes and the value of the social graph increases and he sells that data directly to the weaponized Patriot Act agencies and the Woke Multinationals as data feeds and advertising
what do you think the agencies or corps do with this MAGA meme network data?
they create campaigns to destroy those MAGA networks
thank you Elon RINO Musk
Make Data Mining Great Again
As I’m sure you would have if in his position. Idk man, walk in his shoes and see how hard decision making becomes. There is no wrong or right at that level.
“There is no wrong or right at that level.”
WRONG!
China’s ev market..
He’s just a grifter
How do you know (1) that everything this guy is saying is true and (2) that everything here is something Elon Musk knows?
His CEO is a WEF scumbag. He doesn`t like it but he needs ad revenue from scumbags!
He will be red-pilled when HE stops with the EV Hoaxes…. Stop taking Taxpayer’s money for Tesla –
He hasn’t changed in the sense you may be thinking. He has additional information added to his knowledge and his views are updated accordingly. This is VERY UNLIKE most people where beliefs take priority over facts. Most people believe they fall into the Elon Musk category in this way, but most people are wrong and are simply illusioned. (btw, why is disillusioned in the dictionary but not illusioned?)
I recognize this pattern of though and behavior because it has been my natural instinct for my entire memory of life. I could tell stories of my exceedingly awkward childhood but I can leave that to the imagination and you will probably be pretty close. But the fact is I have always felt a knowledge and understanding deficit and used to think this was my biggest weakness in life and made me inferior to everyone else who, by all appearances “knew everything without even being told or taught.”
Later in life I came to realize how little everyone actually knew and how few questions they actually have about anything.
If you know nothing, are not aware of not knowing nothing and at the same time have no questions to ask? There’s just no other way to put it, but you are unintelligent. So yes, around the late beginning of my school career, I came to realize nearly everyone around me was an idiot and was only capable of remembering things for a test and expressed their relief by forgetting it because to them, knowledge is a BURDEN. And on the occasions when I called that out, I was viciously attacked physically… I presume because they knew I might be right or perhaps simply because they felt I was insulting them… or both. Because, as we know, if we think someone is simply wrong, we just laugh at them for it. Have you ever seen a flat earther get his arse kicked for it? Something to think about.
All that to say Elon Musk isn’t an illusioned person. The red pill function is to remove the illusions [beliefs]. Having access to more information is not “red pilling.” There are MANY people who have access to more information. MOST people simply reject it when it conflicts with belief.
I hate to get into religion but it is the peak of belief. Most of us know the source material of the Old Testament predates Judaism. This reality is actually taught in Jewish theological study. Was Abraham a Jew? No. There was no Judaism when all of that happened. And civilizations around the world ALL reported on the great flood and I presume have NEVER been visited by either Judaism or Christianity to have had their beliefs retroactively edited. And then we find pre-Babylonian written materials which tell the SAME stories in greater detail about the great flood. And they tell some very interesting things which in most ways agree with the Old Testament but is far more detailed.
So I wonder why this older written information is rejected in favor of newer and simplified writings from Judaism and Christianity? I already know why. It is because belief and faith in that belief controls access to new information.
I say again:
It is because belief and faith in that belief controls access to new information.
This is why those poor kids who were sent to indoctrination camps (we call universities) are so impossible to deprogram when we can all generally see that their thinking is wrong.
And a final touch on modern religious belief — we KNOW without a doubt that the Bible is incomplete. We know without a doubt that parts were removed for whatever reason and we can’t really know because we don’t know what was removed. Whole chunks of human knowledge and history recorded in some of these original sources have been “redacted” by versions of the churches long, long ago. I “feel” that lack of knowledge because I know it’s there. Other people? They are just fine thinking they have a complete Holy Bible.
I’m still very different from most and I see that same “defect” in Musk.
Go ahead. Cancel me. You’re next.
Elon Musk is no one’s friend.
You cannot apply those norms to Musk and expect a reaction.. Making “friends” is not high in his Must-Do list. He has different goals, and I do believe that list of goals does slightly evolve over time. Or at least the path he chooses to get to those goals evolves..
find a weapon person use a weapon person. dont leave any weapon person un-used
Appreciate your comments, GB. Just a few thoughts. Time will tell about how many and what caliber of persons consider themselves to be a friend of Elon. He’s has many irons in the fire. Fire can light things up and fire can consume. What we may say of him in ten years is anybody’s guess. imo.
Yes. Our general knowledge is constantly evolving. Ten years ago I would have said Henry Kissinger was an exceptionally great statesman. Today, I don’t mourne his death, knowing much more about his actual un-democratic leanings and his Nazi-like desires to move the world towards a globalist totalitarian government.
Musk is a bit of an enigma to “normal” people (I’m *not* saying “normal” is better). So most of us cannot extrapolate his views or ambitions and identify his endgame.
A 10 year forecast is fairly difficult to make accurately for most anyone of high caliber thinking and who have already demonstrated the capability to change their views on major issues.
The old saying, “If someone wants a Friend in Washington, get a dog” is the advice. … Now days, the advice would be “Need a friend in Washington, >buy the President and a majority of the Legislators.”
……. As often said on TheConservativeTreehouse, trillions are at stake. …Elon Musk, with his money and public comments, is revealing the actions of the ‘globalists’ controlling our economy and politics. …. [How extensive is the current/attempted control? See the Map of the World, often posted on this site. +See the photo of Xi leading our President around with cash instead of a leash. … There are many other Globalists beside China’s Xi.]
Elon Musk is a ‘tool’ revealing the manipulations in our economy and politics; ~not necessarily a ‘friend’ to the Making America Great Again movement.
He’s refreshingly honest! Sometimes the truth hurts, no?
He runs Jack’s Magic Coffeeshop. What more needs to be said?
Not really. It’s not Jack’s anymore. It’s Elon’s Coffee Shop and though he might have been naive before, I’m sure he knows how the coffee is made now. I think the whole experience has helped change his ideas about politics, government, the deep state, etc. He’s a work-in-progress I hope.
Or maybe he’s just in it to make money, but if that was true he probably won’t tell advertisers to go F themselves. 😆
He knew how the coffee was made when he put on the apron. The rest is theater.
Truth.
Democrats constantly accuse Trump and others for being “in it for the money”. Frankly, I’ve never met any wealthy person who’s “in it for the money”. The reason they’re wealthy is they know the rules, the greater your service to others, the greater your own rewards. That’s why capitalism rocks, it’s designed to serve people. Capitalism’s goal is service.
Try learning that at Berkeley.
Respectfully,…boy is THAT naive, and sounds like it is said by someone who has never looked evil in the eye.
Certainly you describe one portion of the group of ‘wealthy’ people.
However, another are people who aren’t wealthy because they have an innate talent for aquiring wealth by playing within the rules, quite the opposite.
Their talent is in CHEATING; that is breaking the rules, but avoiding the consequences, and THAT is how they have aquired their wealth.
DJT is one of the former, which is why they can find NOTHING to use against him.
Musk MAY be another,..I really do not know.
But there are PLENTY of the latter, …the Koch bros, Jamie Dimon, etc. Their wealth is absolutely dependant on them cheating, and not playing by the rules, while avoiding accountability.
Eliminating competition by buying them out, rather than being forced to compete fairly for market share, such as we see in “Big Tech”, media and banking for example.
Elon Musk is sticking to, and fighting for, his core mission, that of free speech. And, for that, I admire him.
There is no open market or free speech with Social media. It is all private companies with user agreements that give the companies absolute control over what is said by who in return for a “free app”.. Twitter included.
If Musk really believed social media is the vehicle for free speech he would dismantle the government enabled monopolistic architecture and power of Twitter. He would open source core components so a free open market could thrive. He would support open standards allowing free interchange of messages between social media apps and allow users to own their own content and be able move it where they like without being censored.
He has done not a bit of this. He does not even discuss it. He is a schill for the government censorship and control of social media via Twitter.
He just made it clear he’s ok with bankrupting the company. Perhaps he is unable to open source a private company without bankrupting it first. No advertisers would be the first step to rolling out your plans bro. Don’t be too judgmental until all the cards are played.
If we see that, I’ll be the first to admit I was grossly in error. I know first hand that neither Google nor Facebook were involved but never committed to true open standards in social media – just creating the appearance.. Indeed, the monopolistic architectures of BigTech run deep.
Actually he qualified it.
He said IF because of a tweet he posted, that was mischarachterised as anti-semetic, and with a full airing of the issue, the result is a pulling of advertisers sufficient to bankrupt the company “then so be it!”.
Priceless reply about the sleazebag boycott advertisers.
Preach it! I’m so sick of no one standing up to these preachy, leftist, shit for brains, corporations. We need a LOT more of these GFY moments.
Strange thing about Musk and Twitter/X:
Musk publicly states that advertisers and their money and can f%#k themselves before he will bow to their pressures.
But Twitter/X needs revenue real bad to continue operations. Per CTH analysis, Twitter/X should have ran out of operating revenue (or close to it) in October.
It is now December and there is no talk about financial concerns regarding Twitter/X anywhere.
Must be nice and “why” Musk took it ‘private’ instead of publicly traded. Lack of public disclosure on finances.
I wonder where Musk is getting his funding to continue operations?
Things that make you go 🤔!
“I wonder where Musk is getting his funding to continue operations?”
The Fink brothers just pay a visit to Blackrock-owned CEOs reminding them that Elon’s not gotten their “advertising” money this month.
My thoughts as well.
For someone running a company that is losing money like X is, how do you tell advertisers to F off…not very astute.
“The only way Twitter, with 217 million users, could exist as a viable platform is if they had access to tech systems of incredible scale and performance, and those systems were essentially free or very cheap. The only entity that could possibly provide that level of capacity and scale is the United States Government – combined with a bottomless bank account. A public-private partnership.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/17/jacks-magic-coffee-shop/
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Twitter’s just the coffeeshop, advertising revenue’s laundering the money.
8$ per verified account was a CIA bot payup…
He isnt aiding the STATE. he is usurping it for his own country once this falls.
County in Texas – Country Tesla
or County somewhere else – Country Amazon for Bezos.
etc..
Its the same with MSM; the advertising revenue is paid to them, in exchange for them manipulating public opinion.
Advertising a product is just the mechanism, and really the excuse to pay them the $.
Hence they are told “push the vax” or “securest election in history”, they DO push it and they get revenue.
an input of data outputted that we would get a tickle to hear it, and he could amass the masses similar to what PDJT did..
Take it a step further…you can tell anyone to F off if you have the goods on them, and they know it (and you have good personal security). He owns Twitter…he knows pretty much everything about everyone now.
It’s all theater. They are creating a libertarian, free speech, free market image for a man who makes billions for simply managing Twitter, a front for a massive deepstate public private partnership dedicated to the destruction of all above.
He might be playing at a level we are not capable of with the given information. He’s really smart, don’t underestimate the one guy that has done more for humanity than anyone.
Courage is contagious. Elon has more money than his advertisers and they probably are losing by taking him on, imo.
Money is not a problem for Elon. He has made so much money in his life he cannot comprehend what being broke feels like or how that might change his perspective.
Musk is not a “blue collar” billionaire, like Trump. But his not am elitist snob either.
Have you ever considered Musk is self funding the losses. I mean, it’s just a wild, really wild guess. I’m sure it’s just a stretch of my imagination that Musk can self fund, but think about it – just for a second. Just let your mind go wild.
Musk was just hired to run the coffeeshop.
Pure speculation. Musk appears to be the real deal. He is a champion of free speech and he is very clear about that. He follows and often comments on a Twitter account called End Wokeness often commenting on the fact or at least agreeing to their post, that the media covers up black on white crime but not vice versa.
You have been abused so much by the media around you, you don’t recognize a path for a win. Musk has been proven to have the intestinal fortitude to fight and he has the money to do so.
He has filed a major law suit against media matters – that should clue you in on his serious fight for the first amendment. Media Matters has bullied most all conservatives for years = most can’t fight back, since they don’t have any money. Finally, they tried to bully someone who has money. This suit could be a game changer.
Like Dominion vs Fox = scripted legal transfer of funds.
Idle speculation.
And so is yours.
Except yours has no bearing in reality BK
Sounds like Fox/Murdoch underwrote an insurance policy for Dominion and when Dominion’s future was threatened, they filed a claim. Fox had to pay out!! Explains why Fox declared that Biden won Arizona prematurely! Fox and Dominion sitting on a fee, K ,I, S, S, I, NG.
all carefully calculated. to build a warm feeling
Advertisers need twitter tweets?
it would be more valuable to track people along their journey online – and remove the anonymous nature of it
Spot on mate.
Don’t confuse me with
facts, I’m perfectly happy with my emotions. And well said.
Musk is not the real deal.
He is analogous to the group the Russian Bolsheviks put out to pacify the anti-communist citizens pre-1917 in Russia.
Fortunately that shit won’t work when we have an internet.
I’ve had my doubts about Musk as well especially because of his chummy relationship with the CCP and the USG but on the issue of free speech and government’s roll in censorship I believe Musk is being genuine. He has a very unique perspective on the issue because he’s got access to the many ways the Chinese use technology to control their population. Although, I also agree with the other skeptics, he can turn bad real fast.
This is what I think as well. X is not his money maker nor his claim to fame.
He has a unique perspective coming from South Africa, which when the whites were in power was prosperous, then, the black leaders did apartheid vs the whites. Now, the blacks can’t even keep the farms running. He was the age and in a country to watch this up close and personal. This could be what is behind his professed support of free speech. Lack of free speech may have figured heavily in ruining his homeland.
And up is down..black is white…
David. You didn’t finish in the bottom of the half of your class, did you? Nice post
Yes and that has been discussed previously.
His cash position is too low.
Wealth does not equal cash!
He could sell stock in his other companies but that would adversely affect the stock values of those companies and cause lawsuits by other investors due to fiduciary responsibilities, as well as be disclosed by SEC filings.
To my knowledge, there has been none of that.
Even if he had enough cash on hand, it would be stupid to fund that kind of outlay with no chance of a meaningful return within a reasonable timeframe, if at all.
It is a smokescreen / laundering operation.
That is the only way he can cover the losses. Being worth 250 billion is something neither you nor I am familiar with. And yes, I am very very well aware there is a difference between net worth and cash. I really apreciate you pointing that out.
I’m sure Musk can figure it out without our help. He has proven himself with me, particularly those he follows on X, as well as his comments – not to mention his substantial law suit. He’s at war and he knows it. I don’t think he is conservative per se. His issue is the first amendment and that is it.
At the moment, he is all we have standing between them and us – and that includes Trump.
How is he standing between us and them?
gets a GREAT newsheadline after a TERRIBLE one of answering a warrant of complete bullshit. just couldnt fight it, had to turn it over.
No. Trump and Sundance!
EVERYONE ELSE IS SUSPECT.
so true, but these pages are full of good people commenting that its naturally going to be full of peopel looking for someone good or some hope.
with such a system in place there are so many ways to be decieved.
Ron DeSantis looked great at Day 1. you wonder if he changed or was he deceiving the entire time. Either answer isnt good
It takes many people with different talents to create major change. We are now looking at a revolution and all are welcome to bring their skills, blood, sweat and gumption to the battle. No one is perfect – take the pieces that advance the cause.
I don’t wonder about Ron, he was deceitful throughout. He was never MAGA, always voting GOP RINO.
I have Sundance to thank for that clarity.
As good as Sundance is, he is not big enough. Musk is big enough to make a difference. Musk has world wide influence and one tweet/post can get 100 million views. Go look at them.
As time goes on, he seems to get more passionate about free speech and he fully understands the danger of wokeness. He is all we have at the moment.
If Trump does get elected next year, then he becomes the one standing between us and them, but not until then. He is powerless until then and is literally at the mercy of a corrupt justice system.
Musk’s businesses rely too much on the federal budget and DHS infrastructure to be trusted, in my opinion.
appearance of focusing on a HERO.
i like the focus on making people heros.
PDJT needs us. thats why. or he suffers also… Elon doesnt.
SD does more than Elon ever could in waking up a person to realizing its them who will be what they want. waiting on heros isnt going to work.
Did Elon do anything close to this?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2020/08/22/my-discussion-with-john-durhams-lead-investigator-william-aldenberg/
Unfortunately, it did not make a difference. Those that framed Trump got away with it. Elon’s influence is felt daily, which is why we are talking about Musk. Musk’s passion is the first amendment. This is what separates us from many countries and we are on the cusp of losing it. This is how Musk is helping. Musk exposed how the government was using and manipulating Twitter for their own ends. Musk released all the files – all of them. He didn’t hide them or pretend they did not exist -he exposed the government.
You really think Tucker would be on Twitter if Jack was still calling the shots. He allows debate – something liberals on Twitter are furious about. Yes, it is Elon standing between us and them – at the moment.
Wow, that is a cool new angle of argument from Media Matters.
Give my regards to David Brock.
Does he pay OK, with the insane inflation rates under biden.
Have a good good “hump day”.
Due to inflation, politicians and influencers are now demanding to be bribed in gold, not cash, lol.
If true, I want receipts…waiting
Ask Alex Jones if Elon Musk believes in free speech.
I worked in military PSYOPS back in the day.
Several of my replies to this particular thread could be viewed as ‘bait.’
Based no your replies to me and others defending Musk to the degree you have, a case could be made that you are influencing for him.
Just sayin.
LOL. Whatever makes you happy. Musk is not going away. He’s building a pickup truck business now, too. With his other endeavors, he is just getting started.
“I trust no one but Me and thee,…and some days ain’t too sure about thee,..”
“Kill em ALL, and let GOD sort it out!”
Do to the MASSIVE, suatained loss of credibility by ALL of our societies Institutions in recent years, the valid perception is that TRUTH is in short supply.
“Supply and demand” applies to TRUTH, as much as any other commodity.
With the percieved shortage of Truth, its percieved value has gone up,…the DEMAND for truth.
The market value has increased, and some, percieving the shortage and increased demand are attempting to Capitalise on it.
To do so, they have to speak TRUTH, and when they do “the market” flocks to them.
This is true, regardless their motivation. The “best bet” is to “stick with” those with a long proven track record of speaking Truth (Sundance and PDJT) and for the rest, champion WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, i.e. TRUTH, but don’t raise the Speaker up onto a high pedestal.
Its long been said “Don’t shoot the messenger” and the sense of this has insured it remains valid.
Don’t elop with the messenger, either. SEPERATE your feelings about the message, from the messenger; LOVE the message all you want, not necesarily the messenger.
I remain leery of Musk, Tucker, Jr. Vivek and others that APPEAR to be speakers of Truth, even when I like or love what they SAY.
I’m old fashioned, and believe in LONG Courtships, NOT whirlwind romances that turn out to be infatuations.
Very astute, as always!
Pure speculation: what’s to preclude someone like MBS, with the requisite cash flow and strong antipathy for the Obiden ilk, becoming a silent partner in X? (Who with deep pockets stands to gain the most from DJT’s win in 2024?)
You told on yourself.
If MBS was funding, then you would have a foreign power government official working with our own government.
Thanks
Many a time it is beneficial to have a company or subsidiary that has loses to defray taxes of the other more prosperous ventures. Also, Elon did state that He would let the “X” go bankrupt and let that be a witness to the system of advertiser boycotts of X.
X is a stand alone. Can’t use losses to offset profits for separate publicly traded companies.
And if he could, the losses are too great.
as a private company, we don’t get good transparency on how he services his debts.
it’s likely he’s gotten quite a bit of additional funding from private sources to keep the lights running
and we can’t also discount that he can and has used the debt structure to for better loan terms and to bring his tax exposure down in a time when tesla is not setting the world on fire anymore.
(remember: Donald Trump was cut short by judge erdogon when he decided to respond to questions and he began a master class of how to service debt and structure loans. I was really hoping to see more of that, but of course, the judge was not going to allow him to actually speak to how the sausage is made because it goes against the reasons for the corrupt charges and narrative drawn against him. Elon is similar. He did not become a very wealthy person because he designed electric cars and rockets. He is wealthy because he knows how to manage money. Or as I would prefer to suggest: he knows how to hire top talent. like howard hughes…also an engineer…a wizard at finding exceptionally effective engineers and money managers. it’s the same with President Trump)
these are just my own opinion.
God Bless America
If Musk did not have a top notch engineering team, the Falcons would never have flown. Their rockets do not use Russian engines, unlike the shuttle. He’s doing what the shuttle was intended to do, regular flights (sometimes weekly) with an amazing turn around in the business because the boosters and the main engine land on land near where they can be refurbished for the next launch. He has revolutionized the business.
Musk also leads by example. When his businesses are struggling, he gets into the weeds with his team and works non-stop side-by-side with them.
At the same time, his choice of Halloween costume is pure evil and his family has this Luciferian bent.
…”I wonder where Musk is getting his funding to continue operations?
Things that make you go 🤔!…”
China.
China
Some people say using profanity shows a lack of intelligence because the person cannot think of more profound things tos say.
Sometimes I think only one response will work, and this is it.
I loved what he said about not caring if people liked him or mot. Said he doesn’t have that weakness. I laughed out loud and played it back several times to make sure I heard what I tho’t he said.
In high school I adopted the “F them if they can’t take a joke” attitude and it has served me well. I just don’t really care about other people’s opinions of me. I don’t need anyone’s approval. It makes life a whole lot easier.
That is true freedom.
Sure did hurt PDJT and every person that interacted with him on Twitter though. screwed our freedom. our anonynous thoughts online.
I thank PDJT for exposing the bastards. He didn’t screw your freedom, that was the government censors.
Twitter and PDJ was before Elon.
he also doesnt care if we like him or not after he is done with us liking him.
Yes! There have been studies done that people trust people that drop a curse word here and there, it shows they are down to earth and real. Sometimes ya just gotta say it.
is Johnny Greenblatt related to the Emanuels
his demeanor is along the mode of Ezekiel’s
WE WANT OUR TOY BACK
AND IF YOU DON’T GIVE IT BACK, WE’LL BREAK IT
Looks like Spiro has some serious pull, as the article has been temporarily taken down from the site.
Everything in the article is true.
We will be publishing much more about this man in the coming days & weeks & months.
FIRST SON’S LOOSE THREAD Hunter Biden has ‘secret business ties’ to Twitter lawyer at center of legal battle against Meta’s rival app Threads
https://www.the-sun.com/news/8566820/hunter-biden-business-ties-twitter-lawyer-battle-threads/
Here is the archive of the article: https://archive.ph/InaZQ
–Georgenews
Elon Musk suspicions aside, I find his GFY comment refreshing and time saving.
The F U heard round the world.
Lolol ! Comment of the day!
For those here who are trying to figure out Musk and exile him to a silo, you are spit-balling… and that is an understatement. Should you be cautious? Of course. But trust and verify. He is giving you ample evidence of him having his head on straight; more than that, he is likely a visionary. Beyond most of us mere mortals. Spitball Away. Thus far, the evidence does not support yout wet paper zooming in your rarified air.
True. But some people insist on looking a gift horse in the mouth.
As you should…
You think a visionary would have figured out that he’s propped atop a deepstate propaganda machine and running a storefront for global censorship, information control and surveillance.
You do not know. I do not know. I am an attorney. I follow the evidence. Thus far, this “suspect” has been shown to be an asset for the white hats. That may change. But projection of our interior emotions w/o examination of of evidence, the who, what and where….is specious. Follow Reagan. Trust but Verify.
And I am a systems development engineer with 30+ experience that spans software, hardware, open source, open standards, automation, embedded systems and even space vehicle launch control systems.
I see with absolute certainly that Musk could never have created the companies he has been placed atop. No way no how. He is a post turtle. The assets and intellectual property of SpaceX, Twitter, SkyNet and Tesla could never have been assembled by one man who came out of no where.
Musk is a frontman. This is the Deep State, Blackrock and the Globalists trying to convince a gullible public that their neo fascism is cool and hip. “Look, see Musk said FU to those evil corporations and he is a cool billionaire.”
Fall for it if you like.
Funny Dat. Detraction. As an art form for rhetoric. Have you met him? No. Do you know his inner circle ? No. What do you know? A lot of no.
Yes sDee…some lawyers think they’re smarter than everyone else. As an EE who also went to law school I can attest to it.
Many of them are good at prose and not much else. I think there is another phrase for that.
After many summons I’m still always rejected for the jury box. Defense lawyer, prosecution lawyer does not matter. They just don’t seem to like the way I answer questions. 🙂
You’re smart enough to figure out what to say to avoid jury duty and proud of it! Good for you! What an accomplishment!
Ho, I am happy serve as a juror. I think the systems prefers juror who can be swayed, than jurors who who will probe.
Your several posts have been exceptional. Well thought out, well explained. You may be Sundance’s alter ego. You have pulled back the curtain and many of the folks just do not want to believe what you have so eloquently exposed. Keep it up please.
Funny, I see no mention of this.
He came out of PayPal. He knew a lot of rich and influential people.
That’s how he got his start.
He does not have to speak out. If he followed the model of the main stream media, he would pat our heads and say, no worries about AI, no conspiracy here.
he needed twitter to put leverage over something for A COMPANY of HIS. that once all the various component companies (sky, mind, tunnel, power) are good – his country can be self sufficient as this country falls.
Twitter or X will be of no significance at that point.
the cypto for the workers to sleep, eat, and play, and tweet.
That’s what Twitter was. It no longer is, thanks to Elon. And Taibbi and Schellenberger.
The evidence that Elon is devoted to 1A is overwhelming.
That is exactly what all of this drama intends for us to believe. Nothing has changed.
the lawsuit giving up people on Twitter that interacted with PDJT. was there any way to fight more? or was he beaten and had to give it up?
What evidence do you have that Mush signed a default judgment giving up twitter users…this was before his time. You do know about the “twitter files” expose that he offered with nothing to gain except deep state heat?
good point – and happy to learn the timeline was before.
that narrative coming out now could be confused.
to other people:
what date did Elon buy Twitter? start April 2022 – end October 2022?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_Twitter_by_Elon_Musk
When was Jack Smith appointed? Nov 2022?
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jack-Smith
“GFY” sez it all. LMFAO.
Sorry. I can’t deal with the NY Slimes guy.
He was quite pathetic.
Reminded me a lot of Katy Slur’s 1st exclusive interview with President Trump.
Both dumb as a rock. And fugly too.
He is a peach to be sure. I liked that he made me laugh, Elon just wasn’t putting up w/his nonsense, that rattled him since he is a superior to Elon being NYT and all.
The best thing that could have happened is for the progressive left to make an enemy of Musk.
Lack of fear, has resources, and independent minded.
The best thing that could have happened is for the progressive left to make an enemy of Musk … and MAGA not to. .
context
which is why the embeded their tech and made the GOV dependenet upon it, to pull the carpet out from underneath and start their own Tech Countries.
Elon Musk?
You can’t herd cats.
Amazing how a guy with all that cash has no common sense. Global warming ( green new deal bs) will destroy our economy. How about F Musk. And X.
But it’s not cash.
Elon Musk is fed up: “What I see all over the place is people who care about looking good, while doing evil. F**k them.”
the full 1hr 25 min. interview is now up on you tube:
Regardless of all the doubts about intentions of Mr. Musk on many things, am very glad he has chosen freedom of speech to be an important right that’s worth standing up for.
Salute, Mr Musk.
What I heard him say is that he won’t back down and if the boycotting advertisers destroy twitter because he will not knuckle under to their censorship demands it is on them and the world will judge them for it.
You see, the thing of it is, it is easy to forget that Musk is not like the rest of us. He actually HAS “F you money,” the real thing. Musk is worth $243 Billion. He can lose $44 Billion on twitter the way the rest of us might lose a $10 bet.
Just for giggles, the major boycotting advertisers and their worth:
Warner Bros. Discovery $26 Billion
Sony $109 Billion
IBM $142 Billion
Lionsgate $2 Billion
Paramount Global $9.5 Billion
Apple $2.9 Trillion
The only one playing at Musk’s table is Apple. Actually, I suspect there is something else at play here. I wonder what that might be. White Episcopalian South African have anything to do with it?
As long as the deepstate is funded, Twitter is as well. Musk can piss into the wind anytime it suits his fancy and not a damn thing will change.
We, the taxpayers fund it all..
44 billion is 1/5 of his fortune. A $10 bet is only equivalent if a person has $50 to his name. It’s still a HUGE amount even to the richest man in the world.
But obviously he won’t be standing in a soup line.
Musk doesn’t seem to care much about the trappings of wealth…unlike Bezos
he is smart enough to keep your eyes in a pleasant way, where as Bezos knows it doesnt matter what we think of him
Musk is supporting 11 children from 1 to 19. Bezos, has 4, the oldest is 22.
he said SPY AGENCY your better get THEM IN LINE if you want to keep you toy
Most of those are already woke and doomed to go broke. I don’t see Disney in the list but do they go by a different name? I don’t know.
The fact is, we know the truth about the claims which appear to have precipitated the move. But we also know those claims are already debunked as BS. There is almost no chance the people driving it do not already know it’s bunkum and yet do it anyway. Doesn’t that mean the “reasons” for doing it are false and there is another reason behind it? Of course it does. This is just another form of deep state attack.
At least at this point we are net better off with Xwitter now compared to before he owned it.
Agreed,
For what it is worth IMO Elon’s demeanour was sincere in its hostility.
I don’t believe the F/Us were staged, and he does not take being bullied well.
Cheers!
when did Advertisers get to go around the 4thamendment?
just cause we say it on a computer or electronic device it evades our 4th?
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,”
EFFECTS.
just gets bypassed. skipped over. not debated.
“when did Advertisers get to go around the 4thamendment?”
We we click “I AGREE”.
Its in the fine print about 79 pages down, right after the clause that says “by continuing to use this software you agree to all future terms and conditions whether or not you’ve ever seen them”
HOW DO THEY PROVE I CLICKED IT. its a fake legal contract with an anonymous person
If we use the software or apps we have basically surrendered all rights to privacy. Google trackers run virtually every where on every device with access to virtually all data and actions. It is all available to government or private agencies without warrant because we agreed somewhere somehow by using the device software.
They might get a warrant after they already have found the information they need (like the recent Twitter warrant). If they need to tie it to an individual they have access to the devices’ camera, microphone, finger print reader, GPS location, surveillance cameras based on location and the identity/location of everyone near by.
The limits are imposed by the constitution by government. SCOTUS rulings have consistently stated that the government cannot evade these limits by asking private entities to do it on their behalf. We know, of course, that’s exactly what they are doing. I think it should be helpful to state things plainly.
He bowed to Jack Smith to give him the list of those who “liked” President Trump’s posts and those who engaged with his account on Twitter.
Much as it is comfortable to be able to put people in permanent categories, people are more complex than a stereotype can cover. Musk is brilliant and may be more complex than most. I think his principles lead him to a free speech perspective, but he is willing to compromise to save his company – his wealth subverting his principles. I quite understand his frustration.
They followed court orders…it was a subpoena. You left out that crucial piece of information. They did not give it willingly and resisted until forced by the courts. Now your post is in full context.
He followed court orders and then only after huge daily fines. Please try to keep it real.
AND it matters to get past the headlines and actually get into the weeds.
x/twitter refused the subpoena. legally fought it. Paid nearly half a million in fines for non compliance. Lost the legal case.
this isn’t unique to x/twitter…yes, it’s a big deal, but in the big picture…national security letters MADE BY THE USA FREEDOM ACT, COMPEL US companies to not just cooperate but also to share and install secret police spy state apparatus to collect and to have backdoors.
x/twitter was making this a fight and they lost.
because the corrupt media did not cover it, doesn’t mean we should ignore the big picture.
look, i understand what went on with twitter…twitter files…read it all and watched the congressional hearing and did my own homework.
anyone who believe the secret police spy state is going to walk away and be nice to elon musk is smoking crack.
am I suspect to elon..of course…do I trust him…no..why should I? he says things that are often not just untrue but a mean and serve no purpose other than to demean other because he is vindictive. he’s like that. Not a really good person. He makes spectacular mistakes.
but when you listen and you watch some of his actions..HE DOES NOT LIKE TO BE PUSHED AROUND. BY ANYONE>
that makes him an interesting figure. Sometimes watching these kinds of people give your a deeper understanding that there is a larger more pressing concern.
does anyone really believe that elon musk is a deep state secret police asset, who then decides to publish how the secret police spy state is embedded in his company?
really? seriously.
think about it. I mean you really have to have a incredible amount of conspiracy to imagine he would place himself and his wealth into that kind of risk…what would be in it for elon..the billionaire investor?
think it through.
that is not to pretend he is maga or that he is aligned with political interess that I share or that are aligned with those of a MAGA/ America First Agenda. Obviously the man makes a ass load of cash with his chinese manufacturers…
as does apple…as does microsoft…as does every single smart phone manufacturer that sells in the US.
but you don’t see these other people putting their mouth and their money on the line do you?
here is how I view elon: he’s intriguing and dependably unpredictable. I think he despises DC, the IRS, SEC and the secret police spy state.
that means he is a the enemy of my enemy.
I don’t need to like him or trust him to realize he can do things that are helpful to a bigger picture cause.
and no, I don’t think elon bought twitter for some economic reason or to make money.
Because he has stated in ways that are remarkable and different. I really think this is his pet project.
like maybe he realizes that in his lifetime, building electric cars, and solar panels and sending rockets into space is fascinating and rewarding, there is something else that he craves in his bucket list.
maybe he needs to have a really solid fight against a decidedly corrupt central state that has attacked him and cost him dearly and maybe it’s time for some payback.
he seems fully capable of fighting back.
it will be interesting to see what kind of fight he can make…perhaps it breaks twitter….and maybe that would be a good thing? one less social media app that consumes way too much opportunity cost.
God Bless America
Well said! His defiance will hopefully encourage others that are sitting silently on the fence merely praying for Trump to fix all when he gets in. Any business owner regardless of political persuasion watching what is being done to DJT with any capital/success has got to be nervous.
Another excellent, well thoughtbout comment, regitiger!
On “breaking” XTwitter.
IF that WERE to happen, it would create a GAP, that is too big to not be filled.
OH MY GOD! And he’s telling the truth! The mealy mouth advertisers who “don’t feel comfortable” won’t get out of this unscathed. I bet no one has ever stood up to them before.
We are in tough times – but they’re also incredibly interesting.
Musk gave an interview that a skilled interviewer would have made a career from. All he could do is return to his list of gotchas. …. And stammer.
Free speech isn’t free of consequences & freedom isn’t in any way… free.
Which brings up the point that the ChiCom’s aren’t competitive. They’re slave owners & by partnering with the ChiComs, Elon is a slave owner by proxy.
So he put his money where his mouth is but the question remains… where did the money come from? It came from being the US’s largest gubmint welfare queen & a slave owner by proxy.
His “free speech absolutist” position is easy to have when it’s paid for with US taxpayer money & Chinese slave labor. Sorry, I can’t like or support that.
I’m told he waddles when he walks
And often twitches when he talks!
Is he a dolt?
No, he’s very deep !
Oh, CTH is losing sleep!
Is he a hero or a monk
A fiddling Nero or a drunk
Who is Elon Musk?
Elon is a strange cat.
Not sure which social media platform is the largest, but let’s just say X is largest and most popular social media platform.
Telling advertisers to F off and not advertise on X is also denying those companies of reaching hundreds of thousands potential sales on X platform.
To me, what Musk is saying is, F off. You’re just cutting your own throats by excluding yourselves from worlds largest social media platform. A highly desirable place to do business.
Who needs whom?
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Ew. He seems somewhat depressed and somewhat unhinged and somewhat stressed perhaps from trying to walk a line on multiple issues. I do not believe for a second that he doesn’t care who “hates” him (or he wouldn’t have denied it.) He’s still sucking up to China. He was aggrieved and hesitated at having to say that he wouldn’t vote for Biden… but Trump “uhhheerhhhh”. Remember where Musk’s money really comes from (governments).
One of the big things right now (and I don’t know enough about it to know exactly why) that’s chapping him is Open AI. Not sure how much is because of “danger” and how much is a competitive thing. Younger ones coming up on him.
All very distasteful.
There are a relative handful of techie billionaires in the world right now who are wielding enormous power. Most of them are considerably ill-educated in everything other than their narrow passions and the financing of them. They live in an insular bubble world. Most of them care nothing, really, about any outcome except (ooh isn’t this “interesting”) and their personal bottom line. If you were to meet them in person you would find them socially strange even if pleasant and scarily ignorant about and/or disinterested in most topics. If you gave a teenager you know a few hundred million or a billion dollars, and with that the power to make globally life-altering decisions for billions of people on earth, well…
Disturbing.
Musk has got older. Has a pack of children. And… yeah… this AI thing or something else bothered him… for a few days but he’s shrugged it off.
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I’ve been pretty consistent in pointing out that Twitter is objectively evil.
BUT, were I the CEO of Twitter with Elon’s throw weight, I think my response to Disney, Apple, etc would be to run anti advertising and encourage Twitter users everywhere to cancel their Disney+ subscriptions and Apple Music / TV subscriptions.
Just start running “ads” in the Twitter ad space reminding users that Disney and Apple (and others) hate free speech. And that parents should avoid Disney products due to the woke bs the company is pushing on children.
Just start doing counter advertising.
And I’d stop appearing on leftist news sites like the NYT (that interviewer realized partway into it that Elon was telling HIM to FOAD). Don’t give NYT the clicks. The reporter simply couldn’t process somebody telling the Borg to GFY. That’s just never allowed.
Give them to Tucker and start investing in programs that are inherently anti establishment.
Like “The Fall of Minneapolis”…
There are a million posts on Twitter calling Disney groomers and worse. There are also plenty of liberals on Twitter lamenting the irresponsibility of Musk in allowing the conservative tweets with no censorship and posters here think there is something wrong with Musk…oh well.
Yeah I always forget (because I do not have a Twitter account, because I am not a moron) that Twitter is a bunch of ADHD addled whiners who would rather tweet and complain than do something constructive.
Disney pedophiles and groomers (But I Repeat Myself) hardest hit …
I don’t profess to be able to ‘read’ Elon
But it seems pretty clear that he’s an agent of disruption
Whether for hire or of his own agency remains to be clarified
The enemy of my enemies may not be my friend but they may help keep my enemies out of my hair while I attack the friends of my enemies.
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Reading through some comments here…
I would implore people to not seek or rationalize to see wisdom emanating from Musk or any other like him. Brilliance at computer coding (if there), the vagaries or having been a kid who wrote a program or invented an app, got embraced into the fold of the tech and financial industry nerds, then mentored and introduced to politicians and lobbyists…and then with hard blinders-on work and by the happenstance of riding a wave in an emerging industry at the right time have become the new unfathomably wealthy and powerful “industrialists”… it’s not wisdom. And their industries aren’t necessarily harmless either. This is not Edison’s lightbulb, or the steam engine, or Ford’s assembly line.
Yes Musk and ilk are fawned at and feted. People are dazzled by extraordinary wealth. Do not. Gates, Zuckerberg… the founders of Google… etc. etc. You would be disappointed and in not a few cases horrified if you really got to know them.
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Well said Counsel.
“And their industries aren’t necessarily harmless either. This is not Edison’s lightbulb, or the steam engine, or Ford’s assembly line.”
Edison’s lightbulb, the steam engine, and Ford’s assembly line were not harmless either.
Just as the Industrial Revolution changed life in the 19th century, the Silicone Revolution has changed life in the 21st century.
Just as the Industrial Revolution placed unprecedented wealth and political power into the hands of the Robber Barons, the Silicone Revolution has placed unprecedented wealth and political power into the hands of the Tech Gurus.
Just as the Industrial Revolution undermined the exisiting political system and destabilized the society of the 19th century, the Silicon Revolution has undermined the existing political system and destabilized the society of the 21st century.
The light bulb, steam engine, and assembly line all vastly improved life in the 19th century. The microchip, machine computing, and fiber-optic cable have improved life in the 21st. Yet those inventions also created massive social upheaval which threatened to collapse the civilization of their respective eras.
We face old problems in a modern form. Our Rockefellers, Goulds, and Morgans go by the names Zuckerberg, Gates, and Buffet. Our Pinkertons call themselves the FBI. Our railroad rebates have been rebranded as carbon credits. History does not remember any of the former kindly, and the future is unlikely to feel nostalgic for any of the latter. If we are lucky, and if Musk is lucky, there is a Carnegie among us.
Nihil sub sole novum.
O. Council and keeler, what a great dialogue!
With innovations, it seemd inevitable that the advantages are readily apperent, whereas the disadvantages can take years to manifest or become apperent.
Elon is in a koch 22.
“…the degree to which Twitter was the soft puppet of the government was ridiculous.”
“…how much control the government had over all Twitter.”
Yep, Elon knows about Jack’s Magic Coffee Shop, we just don’t know when he found out.
He made the NYT mouthpiece look really bad.
The NYT mouthpiece was completely floored. What Musk did, in his own weird way, was very Trumpian.
Remember, he wasn’t just telling Bob Iger to f-off. He was telling that specific reporter and the NYT to f-off.
These people are simply not able to handle it when they are disrespected. These are the elites. These are our betters. These are the people who allowed terrorists to rampage after the George Floyd hoax, but put people in solitary after 1/6 for the crime of talking back to them.
As I wrote above, Elon should use his megaphone to get users of Twitter worldwide to boycott all Disney products. “Cancel your subscription. Trust me, after a week, you won’t miss it, and your children will be safer.”
Yes he did, I enjoyed that the most, watching that guy get frustrated w/Elon’s I don’t give yuck attitude.
Their entire control model is built on the principle that they can scare people into obedience by calling us names (racist, antisemite, homophobe, etc). What they’re creating is people who increasingly do not care.
oh this is going to be so good.
the “world of ad revenue”.
ah yes, one of my all time fav subjects.
does anyone really believe that advertisers spend that amount of money to support
x (twitter)
google
microsoft
apple
bookface
instagram
tic tok
and hundreds of others.
this is like trillions of dollars.
really? really? come on..think about it.
the revenue from google ads have NEVER MADE ANY SENSE.
think about this clearly and rationally.
isn’t it more likely that this is just a money laundering operation..PLUS a scheme to MAKE BOOK!!!!???
think about how the mob ran vegas…they took the city bid rigging and just expanded it into a larger scope…within a casino, you could move lots of money around…you could effectively make your own book. And so that’s what they did. In the movies, too much time is devoted to “skimming”…that IS NOT HOW THE BIG MOB MONEY WAS CREATED.
example: google produces 1 trillion ads (just a number I pulled out of thin air). who pays those ads?
big banks…very large commercial banks…venture capitol banks…soverign wealth funds. hedge money accounts…
but does is this real money? actually money….or is it just created out of thin air?
because when you consider the ad revenue that google takes in each year and compare that to goods and service sold from those ads..things don’t add up.
NO ONE SPENDS 1 Billion Dollars in ads in exchange for 500,000 dollars in sales.
big picture.
we are going to see something very interesting soon …bet on it.
elon made a comment many have been thinking about every since he made the comment:
I did not buy twitter for economic reasons.
why DID elon buy twitter? could it be that as someone who has created actual THINGS he was furious to see just how many billionaires there are who have created NOTHING? And that maybe just maybe he knows something we don’t about large scale fraud in advertising revenue///that it’s just means to make book?
God Bless America
Yup! Nothing adds up.
Global neo fascism.
Another great point, regitiger.
the HYPE was that, by using the DATA they collect, Social media can do a kind of “targeted advertising” that old fashioned mass advertising can’t, and hence advertising onvSocial media was far more valuable than pennysaver, radio or broadcast TV ads.
The IDEA is I text my brother, saying my lawn mower is broken, worn out and I am going to need to but a new one, and BAM up pops an ad for a lawnmower.
Things is, the REALITY is that I text my brother, saying the idiot neighbor of mine is running his lawnmower early in the a.m., disturbing my sleep, and I am going to break his arm, and the “AI crawler” sends me ads for lawnmowers.
The “targeting” isn’t nearly as accurate as it would have to be, to have the value they attribute it as having.
And, the same thing applies to using the INET to manipulate Public Opinion to control PEOPLE.
I think they maybe are guilty of “believing their own hype”; if they had the control they think they have, nobody would support PDJT.
yes, the structure of the scheme is sound, but the delivery is awful. This happens to be quite common with tech…and when you see this pattern over and over and over again, you begin to suspect that it was never really designed to operate…that is is simply a scheme to provide cover. (Mob: we own this casino and rake on millions each day…really, do you know? or is the money haul coming from something else…from some other operation and you are just using the casino to launder that money).
wrt your example…I was thinking something similar. except when you are texting about your noisy am lawnmower man neighbor, yes, the targeted ad is presented…but the thing that is not right isn’t that the ad is a lawnmower…I mean the ad could have been a nice set of bose noise canceling headphones…but here is the thing…even IF the targeted ad was sufficiently intelligent the reality is that you just don’t see that many people actually responding to these ads even thought they are targeted and relevant. people just aren’t buyers like that. Some are.. but not enough to justify spending billions and billions of dollars to google so that these ads are showered on the internet and even targeted. THAT is my point…the math doesn’t add up. Google made almost 300 Billion dollars in revenue in 2022. And that is just one company…the biggest in terms of ads, but only occupies about 40 percent of the global ad and marketing rev. We are to believe that google ads deliver at least 300 billion dollars in sales to cover those ad costs?
bull shit!
it doesn’t even sound right.
ad and marketing revenue is about 5-20 percent of product cost. Above that, and there is no profit. Far above that and you lose lots of money. So at nearly 300 billions dollars in ad costs, to make it work, sales need to be around 1.3 TRILLION DOLLARS for 2022 in order to actually make the balance sheet work in the black.
see the point?
now expand that to ALL ad and marketing companies…add them all up.
are we seeing 2-5 trillion dollars in sales of products sold in the US///even GLOBALLY?
from ads?
it’s casino book making..
it’s the only way it makes any sense.
I think elon knows this. I mean, this isn’t a contentious issue for people who followed the internet and how websites were originally paid to host. In that model it was reasonable and you could do the math. But google gets paid 300 billion for ad injects ..who is making 1-2 trillion dollars in sales to justify that?
I don’t see it.
things I think about late at night…and for many years.
God Bless America
The 2 interviews Musk gave at the satiric Babylon Bee was much more entertaining while sharing some really good information.
Here is a link Sundance’s outline of what’s going on behind Twitter. I highly recommend reading or re-reading it.
“The only way Twitter, with 217 million users, could exist as a viable platform is if they had access to tech systems of incredible scale and performance, and those systems were essentially free or very cheap. The only entity that could possibly provide that level of capacity and scale is the United States Government – combined with a bottomless bank account. A public-private partnership.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/04/17/jacks-magic-coffee-shop/
I have no idea who Sorkin is, but it sure was fun watching Elon make him control his hissy fits. Sorkin’s panties were in a bunch.
Interesting.
It appears that Musk is betting the future of Tesla on:
1.being able to awaken the world public to the censorship/propaganda of the globalist corporate companies/media.
2.The “little people” of the world being revolted by the actions of the corporations, resulting in a boycott of the globalist corporations.
That is a pretty ballsy bet.
I hope he is correct, but like Sundance, I have a lot of reservations about Musk’s true nature/motives.
There is one other HUGE obstacle to Tesla: the FACT that the electrical infrastructure around the world CANNOT support a mass replacement of hydrocarbon fueled vehicles. The entire grid of the USA and every country of the world would have to be augmented or completely redesigned to support a switch to electric vehicles.
The reality of electric cars is that it is a stepping stone to the majority of the public not having private vehicles.
“You will own nothing, have no privacy, have no car and will be happy (or else we will put you in a FEMA camp for retraining or execution)”.
Yes, a conundrum.
Musk SAYS he buys into the whole climate change nonsense.
He says CHINA is the fastest growing and biggest market for EV’s.
He can not NOT have noticed China building Coal power plants, like crazy and having piss poor pillution controls.
He can not NOT understand that there is no way a fleet of electric cars can be charged with existing grid, or with grid that is mainly solar or wind.
And yet he is deeply invested in Tesla,…?
Damn Elon is good. He is a young man and the spiritual lessons and revelations come according to one’s timeline.
He is a strange bird, isn’t he?
data > gold.
data =fools gold
not nearly as valuable as feaverish imaginings, and WANTING it to be, make it out to be.
Behind Elon Musk’s ‘Princess Bride’ interview with David Faber – YouTube
He mumbles, stutters and is hard to listen to. He let the commentator control the narrative.