One of the larger misunderstandings, amid the broad U.S. public, stems from a disconnect about specific media outlets and deserves a few moments of clarity.
We are all familiar with the term “State Run Media” as it pertains to several foreign countries. However, the U.S. State Dept specifically saw the need for a similar communication control mechanism when the era of cable television originated.
Prior to cable television, the alphabets ABC, CBS and NBC were the dominant force in media. This made the information control essentially simple for the various U.S. government interests to manipulate. However, when cable television became popular, a more official control shift was needed. The result was CNN and CNNi.
Outside the USA, most foreign national governments accept that CNN/CNNi are part of the official message from the United States Dept of State. For all practical purposes, CNN carries the official narrative as espoused by the U.S. govt though the State Dept. CNN is the domestic equivalent of state media, and CNNi is the international outcome.
In the U.K., the interests of government are represented by the BBC (British Broadcasting Company). In Canada it’s CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Company). In the middle east, Qatar controls the dominant news of Al Jazeera. Each of these organizations expresses the perspective of information that comes directly from government. CNN is no different for the official U.S. narratives.
Please remind yourself of this non-pretending truth as you review information. Additionally, as customary in the U.S., we have outlets focused internally to support the various elements of subsections within government. The New York Times represents the interests of the Dept of Justice and FBI – in essence, the domestic federal law enforcement apparatus. The Washington Post represents the interests of the CIA and Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) – in essence the larger intelligence apparatus.
Combine the stakeholders, and CNN represents the State Dept, The Washington Post represents the CIA, and the New York Times represents the DOJ. The sourcing for information into these conduits is specialized sources, and the pattern of information dissemination never changes. Once you understand how this works, you are more able to discern what the government position is on any specific “story” or information.
Depending on the issue, you will notice this pattern never changes. It is the one constant in an ever-changing information war.
Every once in a while, it is worth reminding ourselves of this fundamental baseline. The pattern never changes.
All the best,
Sundance
The Australian Broadcasting Commission is a far left organisation that only supports one of the two dominant parties in Australia. That is the Australian Labor party which is in power at present. Although taxpayer funded it never gives a balanced view on any thing and is obsessed with race and gender issues. The Conservative party in Australia which is called the Australian Liberal party is always the target of the ABC’s attacks , it is openly and blatantly pro-left.
Same in Canada. CBC supports the far-left, including active defense (at the time) of PM Trudeau when he wore Blackface..
The unfortunate part is the Liberals (conservative) is Labor Lite. Just wanting to be loved, don’t make waves.
Completely agree.
I pressured the ABC and my Federal Member over completely biased coverage of “climate change”. The ABC has a Charter which supposedly guarantees its objectivity, but it does not ever follow it. But no govt pulls them up…
In the end the response I got was completely ridiculous with their main argument being that they supported the “consensus of science”. Complete and utter baloney – there is no consensus of science, there is only rigourously collected and reviewed data to support a hypothesis.
The ABC needs to be closed immediately. The 1 billion in funding is not only wasted, but supports nonsensical positions and as noted, the organisation is hopelessly biased.
Scientific consensus is merely a euphemism for the subject is not up for debate! No dissent from the approved IPCC narrative will be allowed or tolerated …
Much as NPR is in the US.
How much of Australian Taxpayer $’s are payed to all Australian MSM over and above the AUD$1.3 Billion paid to their ABC?
Yeah. ABC isn’t controlled by the gov per se, but they endlessly spout whatever the politically correct leftist view is on any issue. Heck, sometimes the government is controlled by them, by the threat of “bad press”.
Well, bye.
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“We’ll always have
TaraFARA.”Looks like a mostly peaceful headquarters closing.
Exactly
Perhaps a handy pocket guide with help.
Venn diagram of truth also depicts how many people have been brainwashed by the media, academia and the government. Us treepers are the population sector that’s informed by reality.
I think it’s missing academia!
T shirt worthy!!
I really miss Rush.
He was “on loan from God”. Cannot argue that. I cried the day they announced his passing.
Me too! It almost felt like a part of America had died. Nobody…other than maybe Trump, but in different ways, holds that candle. And others that we thought might have been close…like Levin…have proved to be more motivated by money than love of country!
I think of Rush when my birthday comes around — mine the 10th 1953, his the 9th 1951. I disliked him at first, but quickly realized how often I agreed with his POV. I was hooked after that and listened to him as often as I could, usually in the car! After his death, his office sent us a USA flag and a very nice portrait of Rush. I will never forget him!
Only if you’re foolish enough to let them.
Blitzed Wolfie: From Baghdad Bob to Haghdad Snob….
Well said , Kid.
Why is it that every time I see Wolfie he looks like he’s constipated and on the verge of a dump that won’t or can’t happen? That’s why I refer to the network as C onstipated N ews N etwork! Of course it means they’re full of shiite!
What about NPR?
maybe if my brother in law knew who they represented he would stop listening every morning on the way to work
I tried to tell one of my leftist neighbors that NPR’s narrative was controlled by ADM, Cargill, Monsanto, Gates Foundation, etc. He said they are philanthropic organizations give us the real news. (Face in palms) You just can’t fix stupid.
Yes. The smartest engineer I knew also thought NPR was God’s own truth. He married a babe Doctor, quit his job and became full on house husband. So he wasn’t so dumb after all!
I used to work with a guy who had those inspirations. He married a babe doctor getting her degree, he worked tons of overtime to put her through college. When she finally became an actual “doctor” she left him! He was the joke of the plant because we were all telling him she would through him away when his usefulness was over! Shame cause he was a really good honest hard working guy!
NPR is a cure for insomnia.
It’s horrible having a family member or relative who refuses to budge from their liberal beliefs . In most cases they refuse to even listen to what you have to say LOL.
My dad. Love him, he’s 89, and I’m still grateful to have him on the earth.
But TV has hijacked his reasoning, discernment. During the Clarence Thomas
hearings dad called me constantly , disgusted with what they were putting him
through. “They” being Biden.
Decades later, after incessant MSNBC viewing, dad voted for someone he utterly
loathed a few decades back.
Last time I went back home, was “lucky” enough to be there when Jack Smith
was firing up all his bullshit indictments. Dad turned around from MSNBC and
asked:
“NOW ??? Does THIS change your mind about Trump???”
“No. And I wish to god that you’d change the channel”.
“BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF!! ( The same claptrap, repeated
ever 90 minutes).
I wish to the heavens that we could charge the media with kidnapping.
Because I’d like my old, objective dad back. And it won’t happen.
That would be part of draining the swamp. Dump all public funding and force them to drop “Public” from their name.
NPR is WallStreet corporate news network doing all it can to push the Chamber of Commerce schtick.
Touché
Where does Fox News fall now in the spectrum of government controlled media? It is strictly the play thing of the Murdocks or a corporatist perspective or is there a government faction at play as well?
the loyal opposition.
My guess is the RNC. Rino Central.
Fox News donated to the Hillary Clinton Campaign that should tell you what side they’re on .
You have informed us, Sundance. You are one of the few news sources I get. I stopped watching television years ago because the “entertainment” was too stupid. Learned to dislike the TV news soon after.
Have a look….
They have been doing it since the Obamination signed into the NDAA the removal of the Smith-Mundt Act (1947) restrictions about not allowing propaganda to be broadcast to US citizens.
See for yourself what happens when that sort of crapola gets thru & no one pays attention enough to “Read it, before passing it”.
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GOD Bless us all~!
Blah. Blah. Blah
Who is listening,?
…every one.
Not me. Swore of the MSM decades ago.
The main stream media NEVER EVER TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ANYTHING . They alter , delete , edit , omit and add wording to fit their narratives 100% of the time and have been doing that for decades .
A small example of main stream media sources below , all listed names are guilty of it and can NEVER be trusted.
It’s very very very difficult to find factual information these days since all search engines only link to propaganda sources .
Try searching for political info on Google and other main stream search engines for instance , the ONLY links they will show you are from the above sources . Twitter and Facebook will also ONLY link to the above sources .
99.9% of all factcheckers are liberal owned and funded as well and their sole purpose is to confirm the lies that the above sources report . It fools a lot of people because they truly believe factcheckers are legit factcheckers but nothing could be further from the truth .
By far the best way to know with 100% certainty what’s factual info is to seek out what the above listed sources insist is disinformation because what they claim is disinformation and not trustworthy is ALWAYS 100% trustworthy .
What the above sources promote as real news IS NEVER EVER real news .
CUT THE CORD
CUT THE CORD
Since 2005 here! 20 year anniversary soon! Freedom
2017. I decided to choose my sources of News from the internet instead of the cable company choosing which sources I was allowed to watch. Cable companies are paid by media companies who lie by ommission and all of us who pay to be deceived. I watch what I want to when I want to. There is no 5:00 o’clock news. Break the addiction. Should have done it years ago.
Eight years for me. It’s amazing how fast you get use to no TV. And I am loving it.
Left out the Atlantic. Believe Bezos ex bought it up and ruined it.
Steve Jobs widow bought the atlantic.
Left out Fox
Shouldn’t Netflix be counted in this rogues gallery? I mean with shows about the Obama’s. I’ve recently seen an advertisement for “January 6” produced by Nancy’s daughter.
Wonder if the msm will report this?
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-“Germany says enough is enough.”
Some EU countries
want to start deportation of immigrants
And Sundance…Represents a bunch of rag tag misfits!
Carry on!
“The New York Times represents the interests of the Dept of Justice and FBI”
A job that gets more difficult by the day. When was the last time there was a mass murderer who had not been interviewed by the FBI shortly before committing his crimes?
Remember that the then head of CNN Eason Jordan confessed in 2003 that his CNN network, for more than a decade, did not tell the full truth about what it knew about Saddam’s regime. CNN covered up death threats and assassination plots and systematically suppressed information in order to stay in Iraq and get video footage for its network.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/how-cnn-hid-the-truth-about-saddam-and-betrayed-the-world-20030421-gdvkpt.html
Who do Google, Facebook, Instagram, etc. represent?
We know TikTok represents the CCP.
Twitter/X was the FBI (Jack’s Magic Coffeeshop) but do they still under Musk?
Do AWS (Amazon Web Services,) Microsoft, IBM and Oracle all represent the NSA? They all have the NSA as a huge customer.
How about AT&T, Verizon and Comcast?
The tentacles are everywhere. There are No coincidences. There are Trillions at stake.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/79/796e153cc7c790cb403c2205aece15ecbbfb422518dba3e738136ed0962114b7.jpg
Microsoft’s AI “Bing” said:
Operation Mockingbird and the Smith-Mundt Act undermined democracy by affecting the quality and accuracy of the information that the American public receives and relies on to make informed decisions and judgments. Democracy depends on the free flow of information and the ability of the people to hold their government accountable for its actions and policies. If the information is distorted, biased, or manipulated by the government or its agents, then the people may not be able to exercise their rights and responsibilities as citizens effectively. This may also lead to more confusion, polarization, and distrust among the public, and weaken the social cohesion and stability of the nation. Therefore, it is important to be aware of these phenomena and their potential impacts, and to seek out multiple and diverse sources of information that are credible, independent, and transparent.
Some of the media outlets that were reportedly involved in or influenced by Operation Mockingbird include:
• The New York Times
• The Washington Post
• Time magazine
• CBS
• NBC
• ABC
• The Associated Press
• Reuters
• United Press International
• The Christian Science Monitor
• Newsweek
• The Miami Herald
• The Saturday Evening Post
Don’t stop there! There are many more media organizations playing Mockingbird!
I read the stories of the day and then wait a month to read the truth once the story is of no interest to the ‘Propaganda machine’.
The difference in propaganda media around the world from the U.S. is, in the U.S. they still need to make a profit. Because that is how success is measured. When the funny money is finally ended all those cable news channels will be gone.
There’s always radio. We don’t have Rush Limbaugh anymore, but, well….there’s always radio.
I don’t consider anyone on radio as too serious. Our local radio hosts tend to favor the normal Republican line of interest, which is naive and stupid. I’ve tried to help them, but their egos get in the way.
Normally, I listen to Sid Rosenburg from WABC in New York, and then, Markley Van Kamp and Robbins. Not too bad really.
101.5 NJ own news station, Bill Spadea in the morning weekdays 6am till 10am. He is my man, a MAGA conservative. The best!!!
Long ago I said, “News is made like movies are made”; so “news organizations” have script writers, as noted. CIA, State Dept., DoD, etc. I like to compare and contrast reporting. The USA does indeed have a state media. Nominally “private”, but definitely conjoined with government. Democrat-media-government complex, if you will; or Uni-party-media-government-academia complex. They all sound the same notes with minor variation to the tune.
I watched the online premiere of “Police State” by Dinesh De’Souza & Dan Bongino last night. I would encourage all to watch this. After watching I was thinking how can I get my Dem sister to watch this? She isn’t a commie/marxist she just hates Trump and leans left. She lives her life in a conservative manner yet believes all the age old stuff most people use to believe. That we can trust our government, the FBI/DOJ is good & protects us, law enforcement won’t turn against the “good” citizens, you can trust physicians & hospitals etc etc.
But then I remembered Bongino’s statement last night about NYC in the late 80’s and 90’s. He said 500 murders didn’t do it, 1000 murders didn’t do it, 2000 murders didn’t do it. Dinkins got re-elected mayor over Guliani for a 2nd term. It was after that 2nd term that it finally got bad enough and Guiliani won.
I realized for my sister, it isn’t bad enough yet for her. Her children(and their children) hadn’t been affected yet. I’d say it will take the year of 2024 to get bad enough for her to hopefully open her eyes. I hate for this country to get “bad enough” but I believe Bongino is correct.
Same with my one sister and her daughters. The only ones in the family still asleep. Won’t even let me talk. Hopeless.
When Lou Dobbs was fired, I thought that cnn was premeditated ‘incuriosity’ – but soon it became clear that what cnn suppressed was more important than what it reported. cnn and its ilk are a pathogen infecting civilization.
Note to deep state cubical rats reading this post: Do you really want to live in the dystopian world you are fostering? Consider the nobility of becoming a whistle blower.
Smith-Mundt Act (1947)
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Now do the two most prominent news wire feeds, Sundance. AP and Reuters, or as I call them, Associated Propaganda and Third Reich Reuters. Who controls them, and tells them what headlines to use, the WEF or the CIA? I know that it must be some Progressive Globalist, One World Government group …
There is an agency source where the narratives are created for the State Department, et. al. that you have never mentioned. It is understandable as most would never suspect it.
If you are aware of it/them, I would like to see them included in your discussion.
Does any logically thinking person even watch CNN?? Ratings say no, just a few morons watch.
Took me a few seconds to figure out who the Baghdad Bob is. It’s been a couple minutes and I’m still laughing. VERY clever. This vision will always pop into my head whenever Wolf Blitzer’s ugly mug shows up.
Perhaps some of you can remember back to Rush, he would examine a particular incident in depth and have it make perfect sense. Then the state run national news would come on at 12:00 and have a 180 degree opposite take. Same incident, two very different assessments.
Simple way to see through the fog, is to assume state media is lying, if in doubt take the opposite viewpoint of the dems and the jihad squad
cross posted at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/4311/state-media
I remember when CNN was incoherent, wildly biased, and plain crazy. Look at far it has come. Now its like a baboon on cocaine.
One wonders if the decline in CNNs viewership mirrors the decline in esteem by Americans of various formerly respected institutions like the military, the intelligence community, the FDA/CDC/NIH public health apparatus, the Department of “Justice ,” etc.
…and Fox News is the other bookend which holds up the State media. Each demonize the other to lend credibility to the other by satiating to the bias of each constituency.