If you drop the pretending, it becomes crystal clear to see the hostages are being used as leverage to stop a counteroffensive by the Israeli military. The Obama/Biden administration alignment with Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), permeates the media narrative with calls to negotiate terms for peace and hostage release.
As we expected, Benjamin Netanyahu is being painted into a corner by the Biden administration who are using the U.S. military presence as a shield to force Israel to follow the approved program of the U.S. government. Biden, et al, want to protect Hamas while simultaneously calling residents of Gaza “victims” to the interests of Hamas and the PIJ.
With 200+ hostages held by Hamas, and up to another 50 held by PIJ, the slow drip of successful hostage release negotiations becomes the justification to stopping the Israeli War counteroffensive.
The two hostages released, Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, and Nurit Cooper, 79, were taken out of Gaza at the Rafah crossing into Egypt, where they were put into ambulances. However, their elderly husbands were kept behind. The two women, along with their husbands, were snatched from their homes in the kibbutz of Nir Oz near the Gaza border during Hamas’ Oct. 7 rampage into southern Israeli communities.
WASHINGTON – […] Israel is widely expected to launch a ground offensive in Gaza, vowing to destroy Hamas. Iranian-backed fighters around the region are warning of possible escalation if that happens, including targeting U.S. forces deployed in the Mideast.
The U.S. has told Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon and other groups not to join the fight. Israel and Hezbollah have traded fire almost daily across the Israel-Lebanon border, and Israeli warplanes have struck targets in the occupied West Bank, Syria and Lebanon in recent days.
National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said there had been an uptick in rocket and drone attacks by Iranian-backed militias on U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria, and the U.S. was “deeply concerned about the possibility for any significant escalation” in attacks in coming days.
He said U.S. officials were having “active conversations” with Israeli counterparts about the potential ramifications of escalated military action.
The U.S. advised Israeli officials that delaying a ground offensive would give Washington more time to work with regional mediators on securing the release of more hostages, according to a U.S. official.
Israeli tanks and ground forces have been massed at the Gaza border, and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told troops there Monday to keep preparing for an offensive “because it will come.” He said it will be a combined offensive from air, land and sea but did not give a timeframe. (read more)

BiBi has got to ignore this shit
Yup.
Kaiser Soze responce: shoot the hostage, to take them out of the equation.
The whole reason they took the hostages, was to use them in order to restrict Israel from responding.
And, for every hostage DC negotiates a release, Hamas gets 20 trucks of “humanitarian” supplies; rockets, ammo,…etc.
In the end, Israel will lose far more than the 250 hostages, assuming they ‘go along’ with this D.C. dictated scheme.
They will eventually be forced to use their nukes, or lose their country.
If Netanyahu listens to the Joebama cartel, he WILL lose the country. WE are supporting and supplying hamas, hezbollah and all the rest of the savages in the ME. It boggles the mind that more people don’t realize this…just as many have no idea that WE have been supporting Nazis in Ukraine (when the Azov battalions merged with the Ukrainian army and we gave them loads of money and arms).
It boggles the mind that we have not immediately removed this adm …..instead our reps. whine on FOX. To me it’s like standing on railroad tracks screaming a train is coming.
Well some people like to pretend. Others pretend in order to not pretend.
Others are ignorant. A d others are just stupid. We have a lot of pretending people and a lot of stupid ones in this country.
You Missed one, many people even supposedly intelligent people are very Gullible. They actually believe that TV news is real.
Remember all the Covid Crap?
I once told my 95 year old Mom to stop watching TV news, it isn’t real, she said, how could it not be real, it is on TV?
Hamas is going to get “humanitarian aid” from the U.S. no matter what happens. If Hamas pushes Israel further Israel will have to respond, perhaps with nukes. The PLA knows this and unless they are willing to thruse themselves on an Iranian/Hezbollah/MBA sword, they are not going to risk Gaza’s obliteration with another open attack against Israel.
Unfortunately not, apparently:
Scoop: Marine Corps 3-star general advising Israeli military on Gaza ground operation
[Click on the bold text above the photo in my previous comment for the article]
A simple comment for a complex situation, but it’s so true: Nothing Is Free.
Nothing is given without strings attached.
If you take the free stuff, well now you need to play the game.
This is all made even worse when you take the free stuff from bad people.
Israel is a wealthy country and should have done what they needed to do fast, quick and quiet.
I agree with others here that the longer Bibi opens himself up to discussions on the matter, the more he’s lost control.
There are times when ‘input’ is not necessary; it was said she has the right to defend herself- so get it done.
End if discussions.
The longer Israel waits to take care of business the worse the outcome becomes.
Tucker just dropped a video on this topic… chilling. Sorry no link – it is on X
It’s a great discussion with Col. Douglas MacGregor.
He is spot on with his warnings about escalation
I suspect that the Obama/Biden administration NEEDS
A WAR DESPARATELY
to direct attention away from the US financial mess
Afterall, Americans are getting tired of and wise to
the Ukraine war/support for war nonsense.
They want the American public’s anger targeted at either Muslims or Jews, and definitely not at the Beltway class that stole an election, tanked the economy, opened the border, and tried to force an experimental vaccine on us.
And to detract from his treasonous behavior for the last 50 years
Zelensky has been pretty quiet…
Obama hates Israel and wants to see the end of it. Obama is also Muslim Brotherhood. That’s why the war. He’s doing this now in case Trump actually survives all the lawfare and wins in 2024.
Bonus for the military industrial complex because they see billions in profit from making all the equipment needed for these wars.
Obama hates caucasians, Christian’s and Jews.
Armegeddon would eliminate North America, Europe, Russia and Israel and more.
America has never been weaker, Russia has never been stronger, Europe and North America is awash in foreigners, everybody is in horrible economic shape and most of the leadership is abysmal.
So, would anybody calculate that THEY would win by quietly pushing for Armegeddon?
But then the Hollyweirds want de-esculation.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/21/1207783685/celebrities-letter-ceasefire-israel-gaza-biden
“When all else fails, they take you to war”.
Valerie Jarret will never authorize a war with Iran.
“FJB Seems to be pushing towards war with Iran, very few Republicans, the opposition party, are pushing back.”
“Some are even encouraging it, here for example is _________” now how did I know he was going to say Lindsey Graham?
Graham must have quite the large MIC stock portfolio.
“Graham must have quite the large MIC stock portfolio. ”
And… NO “Senators son” to send…
🙁
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Not only do they want this war to cover every crime and sin they’ve committed against the American people, “they” want this war to start so they can pull our military away from home — away from our shores and our borders — to make us sitting ducks when the call goes out for jihad against the United States to start.
Just like the planes lined up on the tarmac on December 7th, 1941, except this time it will be everywhere, using every type of terrorism evil minds can conjure up.
Than why give 6 billion?
It gets laundered back to the Swamp Retirement Slush Fund, like they did with Ukraine.
I have noticed increasing troll activity at my local news blog whenever Mr.MacGregor comes up.
I’ve been around long enough to know this means something we should be tuning into.
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Twice is nice!
Pathetic – the merciful HAMAs ….Maybe the Israelis should snatch some high value HAMAs for trading ( they can kill them at their leisure after the trades are made ). ( cynical sarcasm )
Couple hours ago… journalists are reminded what we’re dealing with…
“IDF reveals graphic never-before-seen footage from October 7 massacre”
Video age-restricted.
No one could watch that and not want to treat the kenyan and all his puppets like the muslim terrorists trash they are. Every bit of the slaughter by these animals is made possible because of the kenyan funding and kissing the ass of his butt buddies in the mus brohood
The truly “high value” Hamas are in Turkey and mid level are in Quatar, and sorely need to be visited by hellfire missiles.
But “International law” which terrorists ignore, prohibits such actions.
Go and get them then , kidnap them on their way to visit their mistresses ….
boyfriends
That’s good
Yasser was light-combat boots.
72 virgins!
Strategic extraction groups.
MOSSAD.
Golda Mier took care of these types and did not care about international law
I have seen enough fact-based documentaries of Israeli special forces tracking, finding, and dispatching terrorist leaders the world over to believe that none of the current Hamas, et al. perpetrators are safe, and they will be neutralized regardless of the amount of time required to do so.
This is as true today as it was in 2006 and 2016:
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3242988,00.html
http://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Haniyeh-768×768.jpg
LMAO, This is silly, Israel isn’t being painted into any corner, this is Gods plan. I 100% bet stuff is going on right now (3D chess) that Biden, Qatar, Obama, Hamas. Have NO clue about.
You give them to much credit and God to little. Israel has been at this game a LONG time, you don’t think they have plans B,C,D xxx??
Well, since Plan A is generally one’s best, and given how badly Plan A worked out — as in, not at all…
if Israel allowed the attack to devour the other side – that would have worked
this stalling – seems more like Israel is being teamed up on.
Meanwhile Gaza is on week 2 with no food fuel or water
They are getting truckloads of food- “humanitarian aid” 17 tractor trailer loads today and got more the past 2 days
Israel water lines supply only 11% of their water needs, the rest comes from wells.
Let them FN STARVE.
Why?
Every time Israel tries to retaliate or defend itself from hamas or any other terrorist gang the world is against it. Calling Israel a bully because Israel is a more advance culture.
Socialists are ‘advanced’? LOL
Everyone has a battle plan until the first shot is fired.
I don’t think God’s plan is WW3
Gods plan was obviously WW2 long ago
You think right.
Have you ever read the Revelation?
Pretty sure it prophesied something close to that.
You might want to read Revelation. Sure sounds like WWIII to me.
Totally agree
Well according to His script, yes Israel will eventually get painted into a corner, namely Petra, that is, those who are still left alive, at which point they will then finally call upon Him.
Well, Cob, Israel is lacking. Trusting in Joe is wrong. The day Bibi renojnces Joe and confesses full trust in God is when the light starts to shine. https://www.thepathoftruth.com/on-israel-and-the-jews-at-this-time-october-10-2023.htm
Right on cue Barry released his “Israel has a right to defend itself
…but….” statement today. Full of warnings to Israel not to be hard on Gaza or it will lose “friends”.
It reminded me of his oily rhetoric early in his campaign where wanted to appear moderate and not to alienate natural Democrat voters from him while choosing his words 5o be as malleable as possible so as not to be pinned down for his overt leftist positions once he had the votes locked in.
Biden is disgusting but Obama is loathsome.
Obama also said that an Israeli offensive might “harden” Palestinian attitudes for years to come.
Any group of people who behead babies (and those who celebrate in the streets about it) have hearts as cold and hard as a block of ice at absolute zero.
Obama isn’t just loathsome. He is truly evil.
Japan
put in camps, melted.
a very forgiven time for some reason
not a big terror group
An, “Obamination”.
Releasing 2 hostages a week they could drag this out for 2 or 3 years.
My bet is our state department (through Qatar) has been communicating with Hamas leadership and told them it will work to hold back Israel from a much harder response but there have to be some hostages released to use as show pieces.
The media couldn’t supptess the level of savagery and depravity of Hamas this time so we have to pretend hamas is now being reasonable and Israel is the savage.
at about a month , the momentum goes down maybe.
then the fire’y speech to get full approval of bombs bombs bombs lessens
It’s horrifying, but to be effective Israel can’t succumb to this blackmail.
you got decades of torture mapping (Concentration camp is most well known) on how the mind works
we are done as long as a TV and the internet contribute to informing us near war
I’m not on either side, but I do have three major concerns.
Ethnic cleansing of Gaza cannot be allowed to happen. It’s a war crime.
Secondly if Israel attempts it, you’re going to get massive escalation and potentially WW3.
Thirdly if this happens Israel will lose, and they have nukes
who is going to stop a war crime?
They’re going after Hamas. Gaza voted for Hamas as it’s government. That “government” has committed the war crimes. It’s not ethnic cleansing. It’s finally doing something to get rid of Hamas.
Everyone of these asses should be given DNA tests and sent home to Jordan. Let Jordan decide what to do with them.
It has. It said “no thanks”.
You should be on the side of Israel
who was attacked viciously
old skillset of war: use the morality of your enemy against him if you are a savage.
and in war if you cant be savage you mght not be able to win.
Why? Yes they were attacked, but Israel’s history isnt exactly pretty.
if a country is ready to kill. no rules or words matter.
And neither is the Palestinians
It wouldn’t be ethnic cleansing… it would be eradication of TERRORISTS.
The people of Gaza elected terrorists to run their government. It’s going to come at a steep cost to them.
You do realise that by that logic, the US deserved 9-11?
It is certainly just “MY” opinion… thinking the way I do…
Hmmm, it seems maybe, “the lady dost protest too much, me thinks.”.
YMMV, of course.
😉
Gazans never had any doubt about the aims of Hamas.
Twisting logic.
Palestinians knowingly voted for Hamas. Americans were duped.
Nice try. NOT
If Israel kills tens if not hundreds of thousands to get to Hamas, then Iran, Turkey, and ultimately Russia will intervene.
And the fact that you condone this says a lot about your character, none of it good.
You’re getting awfully ad hominem here . . .
It’s probably getting some angst considering its potential move from the “internet shill” desk, due to failure, to the “organ donor cellblocks” in some chinese concentration camp where it lives for now…
And the fact that you think Israel should do basically nothing to avenge elderly, women and children says a lot about your character.
Thank you.
John Dub: If Israel kills tens if not hundreds of thousands to get to Hamas, then Iran, Turkey, and ultimately Russia will intervene.
So what else is new? Without “killing tens/hundreds of thousands”, those countries and more all intervened – exterminating the subhuman moslem nazi vermin would be one less problem.
John Dub: And the fact that you condone this says a lot about your character, none of it good.
Instead of using ad hominem because your feelings hurt, choose a side and put on a uniform, maybe you’d be more useful as ignorant cannon fodder than in shilling your uninformed simpleton crybaby points…
John Dub: I’m not on either side, but I do have three major concerns.If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.
John Dub: Ethnic cleansing of Gaza cannot be allowed to happen. It’s a war crime.Ethnic cleansing already happened in gaza and the “PA” areas, how many Jews live there since “Oslo” and the “Disengagement” [besides hostages]…
John Dub: Secondly if Israel attempts it, you’re going to get massive escalation and potentially WW3.Israel already got massive “escalation”, “ethnic cleansing” and rape, torture, mutilation, murder and kidnapping when the subhuman moslem nazi vermin invaded on Oct. 7th, so much for WW3…
John Dub: Thirdly if this happens Israel will lose, and they have nukesSee above, it already happened- to Israel. They didn’t lose, haven’t even started rectifying the situation, and they still have nukes, so….
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/10/23/legendary-playwright-david-mamet-rips-democrats-for-betraying-the-jews-the-writing-is-on-the-wall-in-blood/
FTA”Why do Jews vote Democratic? Partly from tradition — conservatives have heard a Liberal Jew, when asked to defend or explain various absurd or inconsistent Democratic positions, shrug and joke: “I’m a Congenital Democrat.” I understand, for I was one, too.
But there is no more cosy mystery in the antisemitism of the Democratic Party; Representatives are affiliated with the Democratic Socialists and pro-Palestinians, calling for the end of the state of Israel — that is, for the death of the Jews. And Democrat Representatives repeat and refuse to retract the libel that Israel bombed a hospital, in spite of absolute proof to the contrary, and will not call out the unutterable atrocities of Hamas. The writing is on the wall. In blood.”
This is from the author of the Mamet Principle! Hat tip Sundance!
All I can say is “Tell that to the ADL” because they are STILL pushing Democrat party hoaxes.
Please Mr. Netanyahu, just do what needs to be done. Rip off the bandage, stop with the slow peeling.
right
if the other side could kill them or defeat them , they would have already.
I suspect he is being blackmailed by the Obama/Biden administration
no military equipment/parts or other support unless you do as we say
isn’t that what the US does all over the world?
agree
The longer Bibi listens to Biden the more friendly casualties. Biden and his ilk want nothing more than to see Israel constantly fighting against the rockets, sappers and never ending terror, forever.
BTW – Note that THIRD paragraph of that quoted story -Kirby noted an “uptick “ in Iranian Backed militia rocket and drone attacks on US positions in Iraq and Syria ?! WTH ?! An “uptick” ? – of course that big dramatic story a couple of days ago of US Destroyer shooting some down….are they routinely firing at us and do we respond ? What a MESS , but typical as you can always count on the Dems to mess up on World Affairs.. in that regard they are “the Dangerously Dumb Party “.
Tohar HoNeshek, or Purity of Arms, is part of the IDF doctrine of ethics. It requires the IDF to avoid harm to noncombatants and their property. Let us pray they will do so.
טוהר הנשק.
Tell us about Hamas’ “purity of arms.”
THIS is why I wanted Israel to retaliate immediately
prior to Biden and Blinken, etc. getting involved.
Why not go along with the Biden Administration’s patti-cake play with Hamas? The U.S. is almost a year away from a new administration and Hamas cannot afford a World War at present.
It looks like Trump will win the election and then we can deal with these sand monkeys!
No tears for government officials’ careers that were still gun grabbers in the run up to this mess.
If I was a fiction novelist, the IDF special ops teams would be all over Gaza right now, basically snuggling right up to the people holding the hostages. Also on to the the people right up the chain that still exists. The intel takes time for them to slip up, and the delay with a cover of a pending ground invasion would provide that time and cover. I’d then write about a coordinated simultaneous hit by the ops teams on the offending ragheads, hustling the hostages to safe locations, followed by a hellish ground invasion destroying anything and everything that provides any resistance–all targets of any age fair game.
Recall that the The Entebbe Raid (again, the came radicals–Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine) had some hostage casualties, so they’ve been there and done that before.
I might write that some day. Maybe not.
The Israelis had a lot of practice after Entebbe.
Maybe History will write it…
I have four military aged male cousins. One enlisted without telling our family, for the signing bonus. He departed for basic training this weekend and says he’s glad he did it now instead of being drafted.
That’s horrifying. What a fool.
His mother is beside herself. He’s twenty-two and between a free degree and a hefty five-figure bonus, he thinks he can do a few years and come out on top. I am more appalled that he thought it was his best chance in this economy and political situation.
My oldest Grandson is a paratrooper in Alaska. Frankly I’m more concerned about the “undocumented illegal terrorist gotta ways” coming out of the city north of us then I am about him! But I’m not too concerned about them either. They want a fight so I guess they’ll get one
Bless you and your grandson. I think we have some time yet before things explode at home. They’ll ship all our fighters to the other side of the world first.
Note Israel can play the game that the US is attempting to play. It doesn’t negate Israels’24 hour aerial surveillance and if Hamas pokes their nose out it’s take out time. In addition, Israel can eradicate northern Gaza as planned by giving a timely warning about the target and if hostages are used as shields then any injured/killed hostage is Hamas’ fault. After a number of strikes the combat bulldozers can go in and clear the debris to remove any hiding places. Then it’s just a blowup and clear operation.
It’s too late now for Israel.
The time for ground troops is past.
Time to just try and negotiate to no avail.
It’s never too late for ground troops. Bibi can still start clearing landscape in norther Gaza if it’s done in a more orderly step by step manner.manner.
If you’ll notice , there’s a lot of concern trolls coming out from under the bridges. They are entertaining, but irrelevant!
LOL
On Oct 3 2019 Macron declared: “The administration and State services alone cannot overcome the Islamist hydra. No, it is the entire nation that must unite, mobilize and act. We will only win if our country, which has overcome so many challenges in history, rises up to fight against this underlying Islamism that corrupts the children of France. A society of vigilance is what we must build.” Macron said this after there had been 47 terrorist attacks killing 280 people in France—or one every 2 months.
His policy of vigilance and the policy of other suicidal Western countries to encourage “further diversity” and downplay radical Islamism in their countries is showing the results. Biden has followed this direction and even added a fully open S. Border and enriching sanction relief for Iran
Steyn wrote:
“For citizens of developed societies, if you live in Israel, Hamas is about Israel’s right to exist; if you live in Europe and other parts of the “western” world, Hamas is about your right to exist… you are watching the death of the west in real time. The leaders of western nations have made your bed, and they will watch you die in it.”
If the Jews are always the “evil bad guys” as all the protesting young liberal “infidels” believe why is it the radical Islamists that are causing the death and havoc around the world with Shia Iran’s proxy wars being the ones that get most of the headlines. How many terrorist attacks in the West have been “Judaic attacks?” Israel’s responses have been mostly (or all) caused by deadly attacks on their homeland after intermittent efforts for peace. Peace and co-existence is not in the Islamist playbook.
911 was the deadliest terrorist attack in history but their is a very long list of Islamist atrocities inflicted on the West including those backed by Islamist states and by so called Lone Wolves. Some were caused by “blasphemous cartoons” and others just to release their hate. How many Jewish Lone Wolves have their been?
https://www.steynonline.com/13869/diversity-is-where-nations-go-to-die
“there-not their” 2X for any grammarians present
The New York Times published an article yesterday based on unnamed official sources who confirmed that the administration is pressuring Israel to delay the ground offensive:
The Biden administration has advised Israel to delay a ground invasion of Gaza, hoping to buy time for hostage negotiations and to allow more humanitarian aid to reach Palestinians in the sealed-off enclave, according to several U.S. officials.
American officials also want more time to prepare for attacks on U.S. interests in the region from Iran-backed groups, which officials said are likely to intensify once Israel moves its forces fully into Gaza.
The administration is not making a demand of Israel and still supports the ground invasion and Israel’s goal of eradicating Hamas, the group controlling Gaza that killed about 1,400 people in terrorist attacks on Oct. 7, the officials said.
But fast-moving events since Hamas released two American women on Friday have spurred the administration to more urgently suggest that the Israelis allow time to negotiate the release of 212 other hostages, the officials said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/us/politics/us-hostages-israel-gaza.html
The contradiction could not be more obvious: The administration isn’t demanding that Israel stop, but it is asking Israel to delay, which is practically the same thing as stopping, especially now that Hamas is dribbling out the hostages to “buy time for hostage negotiations.”
The Times of Israel published an article today – “IDF believes it’s ready for Gaza ground offensive — and that it should start soon” – that revealed the IDF’s growing impatience with Israel’s political leadership.
The Israel Defense Forces believes that in order to attain the government’s stated objectives in the war against the Hamas terror group, the military must begin its ground offensive in the Gaza Strip sooner rather than later.
The Times of Israel learned that, after 16 days of airstrikes, the IDF has told the government that it is fully prepared for a ground offensive in the Gaza Strip, and believes it can achieve the goals set out for it, even at the risk of heavy casualties to soldiers, and amid ongoing attacks by Hezbollah in the north.
But the military fears that the government may not ever give the order to begin the ground offensive, or postpone it for a lengthy period.
Should the army need to move its focus to the northern front instead of Gaza, it is confident that it could pivot within just a few days.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/idf-believes-it-s-ready-for-gaza-ground-offensive-and-that-it-should-happen-soon/ar-AA1iI1ej
Israel’s Defense Minister Yoav Gallant is still talking in public like the ground offensive is inevitable, but the bigger obvious question is what will Prime Minister Netanyahu decide? And the stakes for Netanyahu could not be higher.
In the Times of Israel on October 20, Lazar Berman could not have been more blunt about choice facing Israel’s Prime Minister:
And, of course, Netanyahu – under whose watch the Jewish people’s worst tragedy since the Holocaust was perpetrated – will see his political life end in ignominy if Israel doesn’t win.
Instead of protecting Israel against Iran and forging a historic peace with Saudi Arabia, his legacy will be that of a self-serving leader whose focus on political survival blinded him to the growing threat to the civilians he was elected to protect – and of a wartime leader who botched a war with the world and entire country backing him.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-and-israel-must-win-but-for-biden-too-almost-everything-hinges-on-this-war/
All off those mockingbird sources are aimed primarily at the Israeli population, remember a term called “FUD”?
“Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information, and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear. ”
Now the mockingbird media harlots in Israel can start pumping this swill all day in Israel, as you can see…
Netanyahu has been around a long time. He knows the score as he’s certainly not stupid. No way I can second guess his decisions. Imagine the reams of intelligence that we don’t know. I’m going to let him run the war and hope he stays out of any traps
cause his wife has already been a warning for him \\prosecution
They give Netanyahu the Trump treatment
Exactly.
If any of the hostages are physically incapable of withstanding what’s ahead for the long haul Hamas may release them. But pray for those remaining as Hamas understands the IDF will show no mercy if they release them. And rightly so. Hamas’s only chances lie with the hostages and political pressure on Israel to back down.
The subhuman moslem nazi vermin will be shown no mercy regardless of what they do…
Will all those supporting indiscriminate attack–or even attacks that take out known Hamas locations which will additionally maim and kill non-combatants indiscriminately–refrain from name calling if possible and thoughtfully answer two questions regarding the Hamas attack with its killing and torturing of innocent Israeli citizens:
1) If deep state Israeli intelligence actors were not involved in the “surprise” Oct 7th attack, please explain how it is that a) the world’s most advanced and sophisticated intelligence system failed utterly the single day in its existence that such an attack occurred. Utterly. Completely. In all Sectors. Unfortunate coincidence. Murphy’s Law. Darn it.
2) Why there was no police/IDF response into the ravaged areas for approx. 6 hours and until AFTER the major carnage and hostage-taking was mostly done, as if a stand-down was ordered?
Go ahead and look at and answer these two questions. To do that you’ll have to do some research on the net and that does not include Breitbart or any of the usual talking hotheads calling for retribution. With their opinions as your guide, you will simply deny there are any factual concerns behind those two questions and deny their legitimacy, followed by name calling.
Once you’ve answered these questions–and your answers will be based on the most credible speculation by the most informed intelligence-connected whistleblower types, hard as it obviously is to get deep state actors to answer themselves to anything–ask yourself 2 more questions:
1) Who benefits?
2) Do you personally–and after 9/11–want to continue to be mere dupes in the deep state psyops to continue the pattern of endless wars, money laundering, slaughter of human beings, and the ultimate reduction of the US–if it can even survive in the aftermath of the unintended consequences of a potential nuclear war stupidly the result of psychotic deep state actors–to a vassal police state managed by criminal politicians?
If your answer to 2) is No, then no matter how much you despise the terrorists that can perform these kinds of barbaric acts, possibly you can see that an invasion of Gaza and the near genocide of Palestinian non-combatants is no answer.
Or maybe it is the answer to how the Deep State can inflame and unite the Arab populations–even those traditionally at odds like Iran and Saudi Arabia–and thereby get more “righteous” war going. After all, the American fleece-bearing public appetite for destruction in Ukraine is known to be lagging a bit…
The sane response to terrorism is always to fight back, and with highly intelligent surgical precision–and never to become equal to terrorists ourselves.
Yes, eradicate the guilty, find them by whatever means without killing innocents, hang them high, exact justice–exacting revenge only exacts more tooth-and-claw tribalism where more innocents are slaughtered, and in particular women and children and particularly in a part of the world where tooth-and-claw has always dominated.
Who feels any less actual internal pain watching the dying throes of a five-year old mutilated Palestinian child than those of an Israeli, or a Ukrainian, child. If you do, you’re deep state material.
Get off the “wipe Gaza off the map” wagon for your own, your children’s and your nation’s sake, if not the world’s.
Get ON the “wipe the Deep State intelligence apparatus” off the map.
The only (relatively) bloodless way to do that here is to get righteously informed and to refuse to support Democrat and RINO neocons and warmongerers wherever these befoul the air in your vicinity or on your airwaves. And think twice when trusted sources, overcome by emotion, beat the war drums too.
Oppose these as if you and your family’s life depended on it–and get Donald J. Trump elected.
Notice I didn’t say DeSantis, Haley, or any other guy. These are all swamp creatures and will be controlled by the Deep State.
On the ladder of choices after that…
…and that failing, sure, keep your powder dry for the day.
Let’s get real in this real world under a former Republic now in the hands of psychotics after an intelligence deep state coup d’tat.
As a former combat veteran Marine (0311) indoctrinated in killing for the cause, I can assure you it’ll be interesting going up against indoctrinated 18 – 20 year old Marines and army Rangers, all burning for scalps; if they’re there, they’ve accepted you as the enemy. Not to mention drones, airstrikes, tracked vehicles and every location tracking technology in the book.
It’s not much of a ladder rung to be standing on.
But it’s still better than the rung below.
https://substack.com/redirect/82072694-6bf2-434d-ad8a-da81b166b35b?j=eyJ1IjoiOTgzenQifQ.hv6Tpigavqr35BHq7mZsCgkOlZlJLBfec4BtCiftHbM
This from Patrick Byrne. The gist of Patrick’s theory is that former Obama officials Dan Shapiro (Obama’s ambassador to Israel), Avril Haines (Obama deputy assistant), Anthony Blinken (Obama deputy assistant), and Michele Flournoy (Obama undersecretary of defense) began representing an Israeli cyber-security software developer called Paragon. Paragon develops top-secret security tools for Israeli’s defense industry.
Thank you, an informative video. The hands of the (deep) State Dept are of course all over this.
Since you took the time to write all that, here are some facts regarding your puzzling over this matter.
First:
Will all those supporting indiscriminate attack–or even attacks that take out known Hamas locations
An attack isn’t “indiscriminate” if it takes out known subhuman moslem nazi vermin hives, it’s generally termed “targeted”, and you as a Marine should know that.
Next, and note your emphasis here on additional ‘indiscriminate’ maiming and killing:
which will additionally maim and kill non-combatants indiscriminately
It’s almost as if you are projecting, Marine, your country’s own misleadership’s military rackets thousands of miles from your homes, as detailed properly by that righteous old Gyrene of decades past, Smedley Butler – Israel is not the USA, as you should understand.
Interestingly, you are mistakenly referring to Israel’s potential future actions here, where in reality as everyone knows and “Hamas” subhuman moslem nazi vermin officially brag, that the thousands of innocent men, women, children and baby civilians raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and kidnapped were all “indiscriminately” targeted by the subhuman moslem nazi vermin horde.
This is good:
–refrain from name calling if possible and thoughtfully answer two questions regarding the Hamas attack with its killing and torturing of innocent Israeli citizens:
As you actually admit, and “Hamas” subhuman moslem nazi vermin officially brag, that the thousands of innocent men, women, children and baby civilians raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and kidnapped were all “indiscriminately” targeted by the subhuman moslem nazi vermin horde.
You ask:
1) If deep state Israeli intelligence actors were not involved in the “surprise” Oct 7th attack
The proper question based on the facts is, “Which
Ifdeep state Israeli intelligence actors werenotinvolved?” The “deep state” part of the question is actually overt and well-known, nearly everyone in Israel knows the answer now, they’re just putting off overtly dealing with it until “after the war”, and as in the rest of the world, the mockingbird harlot media is doing their best to keep a lid on things (and they’ll be dealt with, too, “after the war”.)Which renders your question, “a)” and the rest your speculation in this section “1)” moot.
But let’s deal with this part anyway, because you may think about things differently and come to interesting conclusions:
…[Failed] Utterly. Completely. In all Sectors. Unfortunate coincidence. Murphy’s Law. Darn it.
That part there is actually correct, except for “coincidence” and “Murphy’s Law” – the problem is it’s not Israelis saying it, it’s the plotters and their hordes whose plans fell to pieces, as you’ll see illuminated further on…
[Spoiler alert: The plot here was to blitzkrieg the Israeli border and occupy Israel up to at least the 1947 partition plan lines (see a map of it, compare to overrun Israeli communities and bases, and understand), while swarming approx. 100,000 or more subhuman moslem nazi vermin “civilian” Einsatzgruppen after them to help with the aktion towards against Jewish men, women, children and baby civilians to be raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and kidnapped, and pillaged.
Globohomo “UN”/”EU”/”Arab Countries” peacekeeping forces would then come in and make sure to help.]
Now you ask:
Why there was no police/IDF response into the ravaged areas for approx. 6 hours and until AFTER the major carnage and hostage-taking was mostly done, as if a stand-down was ordered?
The answer is that there WERE responses – by [woefully under-armed] civilians, police and IDF individuals who organized independently and autonomously at the squad, team, and platoon levels [and it was longer than 6 hours before ANY “official, organized” response from the air force or IDF occurred].
The heroic civilians, police, and individual IDF members who took initiative and fought valiantly were and are completely “clean” and more than righteous here and did WAY more – they disrupted and foiled the plot, so long and so well that the corrupt regime and its appointed running dog military/security “command” echelon had no choice but to re-surface and hope they could avoid the rope and lamppost treatment…
The heroic response was not supposed to happen, the Israeli population [and conscripted military] was supposed to have already been disarmed, worn down, dumbed down, divided, apathetic, hedonistic and materialistic, etc. to the point of a huge, permanent disaster if “shockingly surprised”.
That response by individual Jews in Israel is materially why it all went to sh*t for Globohomo and they had to send FJB, Blinken, Austin, etc. over to Israel, pronto, to see what damage [and damage control] they could do to try and ‘fix’ things while pretending to “stand with Israel” [after they of course had just dropped $6 Billion dollars to Qatar for Iran, to make it all happen].
Israel survived this outrage and now nearly nobody in Israel has any delusions about what’s going on; consider carefully the repercussions to the USA from all this and more and choose your path accordingly…
Well what do you know? This just came out, right now, consider this, the real thing failed so now it’s on to plan B, “fearporn”:
“U.S. readies plans for mass evacuations if Gaza war escalates
Officials said that the more than 600,000 Americans living in Israel and Lebanon are of particular concern, but they stressed that an operation of such magnitude is a worst-case scenario”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/10/23/us-evacuation-plans-israel-lebanon-hamas-war/
600 000 “AMERICANS” You mean 600 000 American MUSLIMS?
Good question.
A strong IDF response will trigger a regional response. WH warnings to Iran and Lindsey Grahams urging to bomb Iranian oil refineries frighten no one. Our last significant military operation was abandoning Afghanistan. The Islamic world will unite to prevent “collective punishment” of the Gaza citizenry. Our military response capability is compromised due to Ukraine and DoD corruption. Hamas must be liquidated. But like bin Laden, time is on IDF’s side. With whom will Turkey side if the Arab’s unite. Sunni – Shia feuds will be shelved for Israel’s destruction. If existentially threatened, what will Israel’s nuclear response elicit?
Thank you for the measured reply.
And yes, I am a veteran and Marine, Viet Nam infantry, not an office pogue, and proud of it. Regardless of the ultimate futility of that war–and most wars since–I will always have a strong bond to fellow infantry servicemen in our forces and if they are in the field in an active theater, want only to see them successful. At the level of combat the politics are out the window and I want my side victorious.
Nevertheless:
1) The disappearance of intelligence on the day of the attacks is statistically only explained by deliberation. Not negligence. Not coincidence. Not Murphy’s Law.
2) That the response to the terror attacks was by individual Jews “independently and autonomously” does not in the least diminish in significance the stand down orders that statistically must have also been deliberate.
3) Therefore it is beyond reasonable, even apparent, that complicit actors within Israel perpetrated this slaughter and outrage. Yet like 9/11 all intelligence apparatus involvement is taboo in the press.
No one is disputing the barbarism of the Hamas terrorists–this shit is what terrorists do and hardly only in the middle east. Viet Cong cut arms off villagers to enforce their rule. The cartels behead people and drape their bodies off freeways. The Queen of Spain empowered Torquemada to impale heretics inside iron maidens. All terrorists everywhere are the scum of the earth.
The greater outrage is that it was allowed to happen, as appears obvious enough to slap you in the face. Was it done to embarrass Netanyahu and get him removed in the aftermath? The Left in a greatly politically divided Israel is capable of it.
Was it done because the Biden crime family and more importantly his Deep State intelligence cabal needs more headline distractions as the DC criminality unravels into greater national awareness.
I don’t know–I only know that all signs point to subversion inside Israel.
My main point is as follows. The Hamas attack and its origins appear to follow a winding road into the bowels of a Deep State operation. Who benefits? Psychotics in power benefit, whether in their political, financial or quasi-religious asylums. What do they rely on? Predictable responses by their targets as proven by past operations.
You are one of their targets.
They want you and the rest of American public opinion to go along with mass retaliation on an entire population in blood-fueled collective punishment.
They want the US Congress clamoring for war with Iran (neocon Lindsey Graham). They want the US State Department (Binken) proclaiming death to Hamas wherever it is found.
Sound a lot like 9/11?
Instead of taking out a handful of actual perpetrating terrorists, their handlers and financers with targeted surgical precision, there must instead be WAR. Smedley Butler knows about this.
And of course, 9/11 gave us the Patriot Act and here we are.
The Deep State wants war. They want hot-blooded American patriots urging the neocons, their lobbyists and their military complex brethren to the neocon favorite destination: the cash cow that is WAR.
They need you to sanction the mass destruction–the genocide–of the Gaza strip so that the hundreds of thousands of mutilated bodies of women and children and elderly can galvanize the Arab world into uniting and spark the region into a deep state/neocon money-laundering crime syndicate’s wet dream of a war.
That the war would likely get out of control in a hurry and wreak havoc on world civilization is no concern of theirs. Psychotics only want death for life around them, including themselves if it comes to that.
I repeat from my original post:
“The sane response to terrorism is always to fight back, and with highly intelligent surgical precision–and never to become equal to terrorists ourselves.
“Yes, eradicate the guilty, find them by whatever means without killing innocents, hang them high, exact justice–exacting revenge only exacts more tooth-and-claw tribalism where more innocents are slaughtered, and in particular women and children and particularly in a part of the world where tooth-and-claw has always dominated.
“Who feels any less actual internal pain watching the dying throes of a five-year old mutilated Palestinian child than those of an Israeli, or a Ukrainian, child. If you do, you’re deep state material. [EMPHASIS ADDED]
“Get off the “wipe Gaza off the map” wagon for your own, your children’s and your nation’s sake, if not the world’s.
“Get ON the “wipe the Deep State intelligence apparatus” off the map.”
So I recommend to you your own closing words: “…consider carefully the repercussions to the USA from all this and choose your path accordingly…”
Tell Biden to shove his aid trucks up where the sun don’t shine. If Bibi needs more funding to prosecute the war start a give-send-go.
I think the real issue is the IDF top-brass is morbidly aware that Hezbollah (and Syria) are more formidable than Hamas and present a real danger if/when the IDF has to start drawn-out fighting in the buildings, tunnels & ruins of Gaza. There’s already talk of valuable Israeli military infrastructure near Lebanon being hit.
Also the Syrian Arab Army, isn’t the rolling circus it was before 2012. It’s a much more battle-hardened outfit than the Israeli ground forces, and there are at least two well-equipped Syrian divisions near the Golan Heights. I’m sure they’d be quite eager to at least take back Golan, (which was/is theirs in all fairness) it depends on if Assad feels secure enough about potential blowback to roll the dice.
Of course the selfish, corrupt, duplicitous and ham-fisted dealings of the “collective Biden” aren’t helpful either. For anyone involved actually, including or perhaps particularly the USA.
We sure have fallen far from “we don’t negotiate with terrorists”, haven’t we? Kinda makes you wonder how much $$$ Hamas got for slow-rolling the release of hostages. Calling the current regime despicable is an insult to merely despicable people.
I write a lot about the need to withdraw our consent. We’re rapidly approaching the point where American families by the millions are going to have to refuse to comply with the draft and force the Government to forcibly abduct draftees. The military doesn’t have nearly enough personnel for a major theater war that would quickly pull China and Russia into a 3-front war (Taiwan being the logical 3rd front).
A soldier fighting the same evil that kidnaps old women and uses them as shields. Pray for her: https://women.ncr-iran.org/2023/10/21/roya-zakeri-hijab-patrols/
If there was a contest for “Most Inconsequential Government” ours would undoubtedly be the unchallenged leader of the field.
What say you Sundance to Colonel Douglas Macgregor’s interview with Tucker posted today? The Colonel claims as much as we may want to destroy Hamas “collective punishment “approach will only lead to WW3 .
Hamas must be obliterated to teach these koranimals a lesson. They ONLY admire the STRONG HORSE
Separating couples of that age is just another way to torture them. It poses as “humanitarian” but its just more evil from the pit of hell.
1 Samuel 30
David Defeats the Amalekites
30 Now when David and his men came to Ziklag on the third day, the Amalekites had raided the south as far as Ziklag. They had struck Ziklag and burned it with fire. 2 They had taken as captives all the women who were there. They did not kill anyone, but carried them off and went on their way.
3 David and his men came to the city, and they found it burned with fire, and their wives, their sons, and their daughters taken captive. 4 So David and the people that were with him lifted up their voice and wept until they had no strength in them to weep. 5 Now David’s two wives were taken captive, Ahinoam the Jezreelitess and Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite. 6 David was greatly distressed, for the people talked of stoning him, because all the people were bitter in spirit, each over his sons and daughters. But David encouraged himself in the Lord his God.
7 And David said to Abiathar the priest, the son of Ahimelek, “Please bring the ephod to me.” So Abiathar brought the ephod to David. 8 David inquired at the Lord, saying, “Should I pursue after this raiding party? Will I overtake them?”
And He answered him, “Pursue them, for you will surely overtake them and will surely recover all.”
9 So David went, he and the six hundred men who were with him. And they came to the brook Besor, where those that were left behind remained. 10 But David pursued, he and four hundred men, for two hundred who were too exhausted to cross over the brook Besor remained behind.
11 They found an Egyptian in the field and took him to David. He gave him bread and he ate, and they made him drink water. 12 And they gave him a part of a cake of figs and two cakes of raisins. When he had eaten, his spirit came back to him, for he had not eaten bread or drunk any water for three days and nights.
13 Then David said to him, “To whom do you belong? And where are you from?”
And he said, “I am a young man of Egypt, servant to an Amalekite. And my master left me, because three days ago I fell sick. 14 We raided the south of the Kerethites, the south of Judah, and the south of Caleb. And we burned Ziklag with fire.”
15 David said to him, “Will you bring me down to this raiding party?”
And he said, “Swear to me by God that you will neither kill me, nor deliver me into the hand of my master, and I will bring you down to this raiding party.”
16 When he brought him down, they were spread out over all the land, eating, drinking, and dancing, because of all the great spoil which they had taken from the land of the Philistines and from the land of Judah. 17 David struck them from twilight until the evening of the next day, and no man escaped except four hundred young men who rode on camels and fled. 18 So David recovered all that the Amalekites had taken, and David rescued his two wives. 19 Now there was nothing missing, from the smallest thing to the greatest, neither sons, nor daughters, or plunder, or anything which they had taken. David brought back all of it. 20 And David took all the flocks and the herds, which they drove before the other livestock. And they said, “This is David’s spoil.”
Yes, Holy Spirit!
YES!
Bibi spoke of Amalek when he revealed IRans nuclear plans at the UN
King David had balls
I hope Bibi and Israel has them too.
Trying to run out the clock
The Israelis are not going into that rats nest. Suicide. They can’t win. Better off drone striking and emptying the wings of F16’s in middle of the night. That’s the sane move.
This Islam. Not about Gaza or a “Palestinian state”. Mass murder and unspeakable atrocities – Islam. Period. Look at the siege of Vienna. Use of babies. Gaza is Hamas. All of it. 80% of the people there cheered it on. See video of German girl in bed of the pickup truck. The whole neighborhood cheers it on. That’s Islam.
This is a religious war. Islam calls for the annihilation of ALL Jews – and non believers for that matter.
Israel’s position is biblical. Not political. They have a choice. Flatten Gaza. All of it. Every inch. From the air. Or keep enduring the attacks.
YES!
Tacitus: “Make a desert and call it Peace”
Doesn’t the Geneva Convention protect civilians ? Article 34 prohibits taking civilian hostages.
Hamas can hardly be called civilized
It’s not our problem. This belongs to Israel.
methodically Annihilate that rats nest block by block. Why does anyone on this thread care? Sure all the politicians and media make noise. This one belongs to Israel.
Jordan KSA Egypt want that place flattened. Netanyahu was busy rigging the court system and disarming the population and in came the paragliders. He’s a terrible leader. A pure narcissistic political hack and opportunist.
Now he’s trying to play a leverage game. He’s an idiot. The guy needs to represent his country his faith and declare war on Islam via Gaza destruction. Or resign. Cannot invade it.
Damn, lots of negativity around here tonight.
Spent some time with a few IDF boys in Lebanon in ’83.
Wouldn’t count ’em out just yet. Nor would I begin to second guess their prime minister.
Oh, by the way, please remember what happened in Beirut 40 years ago today. I sure as hell do.
Yes Bridget Gabriel tells about it. She was a child and she describes the atrocities the Palestinians committed against Christians
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJw5KoWn/
How much money is Bibi being bribed with from the US not to go forward with a ground war?
Start with Qatar.
Take out the snakes there.
Khaled Meshal was targeted by Mossad some years ago and the West and Jordan demanded an antidote to the poison that was put in his ear.
Two Mossad agents were to spray the terrorist with a poison in the street, an act that was to be disguised by the opening of a shaken soda can to give the impression of an innocent accident. The plan was carried out as Mashaal emerged from his car to enter his office. But the surprise calls of Mashaal’s daughter from the car led him to turn his head just as one agent sprayed him with the poison, while the startled second man did not open the can.
The Hamas man immediately knew he had been attacked and was rushed away, while the agents attempted to flee but were caught by Jordanian police. Other Mossad agents who were in the periphery fled to the Israeli embassy.
The poison was a potent fentanyl derivative that could kill within hours through skin contact alone. Mashaal was rushed to a hospital and his condition quickly deteriorated.
Ahead of the 25th anniversary of Israel’s failed attempt to assassinate Hamas’s Khaled Mashaal in Jordan, The Times of Israel’s Hebrew-language sister-site Zman Yisrael spoke to Efraim Halevy, the former Mossad chief who was instrumental in the effort to solve the resultant crisis with Jordan.
The botched hit took place on September 25, 1997, two months after a Hamas suicide bombing in Jerusalem’s Mahane Yehuda Market killed 16 people and injured over 160. Israel decided to take out Mashaal, then the head of the terror group’s military wing, who was living in Amman.
Two Mossad agents were to spray the terrorist with a poison in the street, an act that was to be disguised by the opening of a shaken soda can to give the impression of an innocent accident. The plan was carried out as Mashaal emerged from his car to enter his office. But the surprise calls of Mashaal’s daughter from the car led him to turn his head just as one agent sprayed him with the poison, while the startled second man did not open the can.
The Hamas man immediately knew he had been attacked and was rushed away, while the agents attempted to flee but were caught by Jordanian police. Other Mossad agents who were in the periphery fled to the Israeli embassy.
The poison was a potent fentanyl derivative that could kill within hours through skin contact alone. Mashaal was rushed to a hospital and his condition quickly deteriorated.
Jordan’s King Hussein was furious, Halevy recalled, feeling Israel had humiliated his country and had created the impression the nations were cooperating on the operation. Hussein threatened Israel at the time that if Mashaal died, so would the agents. Israeli officials quickly provided the Jordanians with an antidote and medical advice as doctors in Amman fought for Mashaal’s life.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/begging-royal-mercy-how-israel-recovered-from-the-botched-mashaal-hit-25-years-ago/
All the hostages or nothing. The pressure is the only reason they are releasing any. Pause the action, lose the pressure.
Has anyone yet pointed out how beyond sick, depraved and evil the Obama/Clinton axis is as far as their total lack of concern for the safety of US citizens? Arming the Mexican cartels with weapons later used to kill a US CBP agent? Facilitating the events in Behghazi that led to 4 deaths, including a US ambassador? That disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal that left 13 marines dead? And now this? Cold anger…
Who is Mohammed Deif – the Hamas commander behind the attack on Israel?
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-secretive-hamas-commander-masterminded-attack-israel-2023-10-10/
Israel pledges ‘unrelenting attacks’ on Hamas – BHO warns Israel against civilian casualties .. not to ignore the human costs.’
“Any Israeli military strategy that ignores the human costs could ultimately backfire. Already, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in the bombing of Gaza, many of them children. Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes,” the Kenyan said in a statement posted on social media.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-promises-unrelenting-attacks-hamas-us-obama-urge-caution-2023-10-24/
BHO can get stuffed.
Hamas and the rest of Gaza brought it upon themselves
Bridget Gabriel said just about everyone in Gaza supports Hamas
‘Palestinians In Gaza Are Mostly Hamas,’ Claims Lebanese-American Author Brigitte Gabriel
JoeBama is running a colour revolution against Bibi using the Israeli left and waging war on Israel via Iran.
I’m not sure what path Israel should take. If they invade Gaza they will take enormous casualties with no guarantee of victory. Plus they risk fighting alone on different fronts against a united Arab world.
If they don’t invade they could be viewed as weak which encourage more massacres by Hamas.
What would Sun Tzu suggest?
I’ve posted a few times at different sites that if I was calling the shots I would consider the hostages as already deceased and mourn their loss and proceed with destroying the source of the violence,Hamas which was voted into power.Most of the population are supporters of Hamas and its methods and aims.In a war there must be a winner and a loser.If WWII was run the way this conflict has been run we would still be fighting nazis in Germany and negotiating with Hitler junior.Stop attacking and killing Jews in Israel and there will be peace.
Okay, so where is Hamas hiding these hostages–since Israhell is pummeling the Gaza strip and killing hundreds of Palestinians? Why don’t they just raid Hamas’s secret lair? Satanyahoo would be hailed as a hero if he rescued the hostages and destroyed the terrorist cell. Yet, mysteriously, he isn’t showing any enthusiasm to take that course.
I wonder why? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-10-16/bibi-netanyahu-2019-israel-must-support-bolstering-hamas-and-transferring-money
Yes, release the women they aren’t currently raping. The men are too much fun to kill and may already be dead. We don’t know.
This is no game. This is life and death. It is an existential moment for Israel. Are they continue being abated from doing what it necessary and putting their entire country in peril or are they going to eviscerate their mortal enemy?
If this is a game, it is a deadly round of Russian roulette.
I pray Israel has the will to finish what it must. These monsters must be vanquished entirely. There can never be peace with such inhuman monsters.
Stop the Zionist BS propaganada! Stop pretending the US congress/ senate is not run by AIPAC and and the ADL, I am finished with the MAGA Zionist bs spin.