Something about this story just doesn’t pass the proverbial sniff test.
It is 1,300 straight line miles from Yemen to Israel; add in the Red Sea path claimed, and you add another approximately 200 miles. So, the claim is around 1,500 +/- miles.
The Raytheon built Tomahawk cruise missile, with GPS enabling, some of the most advanced cruise missile tech in the world, has a max targeting distance of 1,000 miles [LINK]. How the hell did Yemen get missiles and drones capable of flying 1,500 targeted miles?
Additionally, if Yemen had this level of missile technology available, the Houthi rebels would have flown them at Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, over the past decade during their war.
Now that I have shared that context, look carefully at how the statements are worded (emphasis mine).
(VIA ABC) – The USS Carney, a Navy destroyer in the Red Sea, on Thursday shot down multiple missiles launched by Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen that the Pentagon said were potentially headed toward targets in Israel.
The ship intercepted three land attack cruise missiles and about eight drones, Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said at a press briefing.
The preliminary U.S. assessment was that the USS Carney was not the target of any of the Houthi missiles or drones.
Information about the engagements was still being processed, Ryder said. “We cannot say for certain what these missiles and drones were targeting but they were launched from Yemen heading north along the Red Sea potentially to targets in Israel.
It’s unclear from where the Houthi militia’s missiles were fired but they were headed in a northerly direction, an official said.
The incident occurred during the early evening hours Thursday local time and the missiles were taken down over water, not land, the Pentagon said.
The missiles fired by the Houthis were engaged by SM2 missiles carried aboard the USS Carney, an official said. (read more)
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On the afternoon before pudding brain gives his national address on the Israeli war, the Pentagon is reporting on a fleet of missiles and drones, eleven in total, flying from Yemen to Israel, thereby exceeding the capacity of U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile systems by 50%. 👀 You buying this?
…Oh, AND they collectively would have flown over Egypt to arrive in Israel if not intercepted.
Sorry, I don’t mean to sound like a conspiracy nut, but this just doesn’t add up. This sounds like the seeds of an expanded war narrative to me.
In combination with the ‘couched’ Pentagon statement, Suspicious Cat remains, well, suspicious.
Retired Magistrate here: It is the seeds of an expanded war narrative. The people who control Biden are ticked that Egypt and other countries in the Middle East don’t want to go along with a World War III scenario.
No point in stating my opinion, since it aligns completely with Marcia and Sundance.
World War III is coming by hook or by crook.
Well, they are TRYING their darndest,…but getting resistance at every turn.
In Europe, enthusiasm for the war with Russia, in Ukraine is waning rapidly.
In ME, the Saudis KNOW as both a “nationalist” country, and a major oil producer, that it actually THEY who are in the sights, and so are “backing” egypt and Jordans play, to tell Joe to eat shi,….SAND.
PDJT’s work, culminating in his FIRST international trip, setting up the abrams accords “play” is looking more genius by the minute.
Do I really need to point out WHO negotiated that deal for him, as only he could have?
Those who regularly repeated never-trumper criticisms of “Javanca” should probably hang their head a little, cause you got PLAYED!
BOUM!
I loved that MBS made Blinken wait 12 hours before he gave him less than an hour face time. Got no time for losers. Lol
AND made him fly over there.
Thank you!!
I have always considered Jared’s Abraham Accords a stunning achievement, second only to Trump meeting Little Rocket Man in North Korea.
Correct!
And note reports that missiles were also shot down by Saudi Arabia:
Amir Tsarfati
According to foreign sources, Saudi Arabia also intercepted one missile of the barrage that the Houthis in Yemen launched.
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I pray not, but I expect it will be.
More blood and treasure sacrificed on the Altar of Perpetual War
Life means nothing to the psychopaths behind it. Less so for the lives of the young men and women offered for the enrichment for the Military Industrial Complex.
For proof of this, if proof were needed, the WH released a photo of the dementia patient shaking hands of the Special Ops group sent in to help rescue Hamas hostages.
No faces were blacked out. The photo was viewed hundreds of thousands of times by everyone including those who will be on the look out for them now.
It took an HOUR for the incompetents in the WH to remove it, with a “Sorry about that” Oops!!
Seal Team Six anyone?
I feel sick contemplating what no doubt is coming.
Don’t ever think it wasn’t done on purpose. This is how Obama works.
Oh believe me, Paca, I don’t.
The United States (Government)
The Empire of Hate, Lies, Terror, and Death
Guess who was the blabbermouth involved in the SEAL Team 6 travesty? Joey Two Scoops.
Obama is still furious with AL Sisi who kicked the Muslim brotherhood out. That’s why they are now in Qatar. The other problem is Blinken, who is holding aid to hamas over Israel’s head, if they want their weapons resupplied. And…..he waited for a draft of the bill from the Kennset until the bill met HIS approval. Now, who is really running Israel? State?
Sundance posted recently that the Muslim Brotherhood fled to Turkey and their headquarters are there now.
And that may be part of another conflict Turkey vs Iran.
Isn’t Valerie Jarret kin to one of the top muslim brotherhood?
She’s Iranian.
No, she was born in Iran to U.S. citizen parents. Her father was a physician who assisted developing countries in establishing health care systems. The family returned to the States when Jarrett was about 7 years old.
The same group running Ukraine.
The demonic monsters in the deep state and White House are pushing for a world war 3.
They can’t get it through Russia yet so they’re trying by lighting up the M.E.
I also don’t believe for one moment this WH cares one bit for Israel.
So they can cancel the 24 election??
Our elections have never been cancelled during war-time.
They may try it, because nothing is beneath this evil psychopaths, however, I doubt if they will succeed.
If enough terrorist events / false flags inside the U.S. are pulled off and hyped by the Mockingbird Media to raise the publics level of fear, the Regime will try to justify 100% vote (cheat) by mail…..
Hard to cancel them now when we held them during the Civil War (1864, Lincoln won) and during WW2 (1944, Roosevelt won).
But with incumbents winning both, I could see some idiot thinking that war is the way to help Loser Joey win reelection.
And WHAT, pretell do RUSSIA and the ME have in common?
Sure, age old grievances and animosities that TPTB can exacerbate, and get everyone arguing over.
But thats just the EXCUSE, cause the real thing in common, is OIL.
And their Stated goal is disrupting OIL PRODUCTION, and THATS what they are trying to do.
Jew vs Muslim, with Christian caught in the middle, is just the EXCUSE.
Red car owners fighting Blue car owners, its all the same to them.
Energy more so than just oil. Includes natural gas also.
Never forget the US supported Qatar supplied / Saudi pipeline route running to the east border of Israel through southern Syria to the terminus on the Mediterranean
Versus
The Russian supported Iran/Iraq pipeline to the southern border of Turkey that cuts across Syria (right where we have US military assets ‘protecting’ oil fields running to the same terminus noted above.
The market? Europe
Does it make sense now why Nordstream was blown up and another pipeline from Estonia (Russian) to Finland (Europe) was recently sabotaged?
Meanwhile, US has been supplying natural gas (LNG) to Europe.
TRILLIONS AT STAKE!
Hmmm, looks like work for Suspicious Cat.
Like what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin.
“The incident occurred during the early evening hours Thursday local time and the missiles were taken down over water, not land, the Pentagon said.”
No debris to validate this story. Wow! Excellent job CTH. I love this site for the fact that nothing should ever be accepted at face value. Everything needs to be question and examined under the lens of a corrupt globalist agenda.
DD
Nice catch
Our own military was responsible for running the planned-demic.
They are perfectly capable with all the overseas bases, etc. to fire missiles at out own vessels.
Our own military, according to M. Yon is fostering the southern border invasion.
Everybody has their price, like Judas and his 30 pieces of silver.
its a live real world scripted show.
never seen anything colder and more evil than this roleplaying with human’s lives
Including PDJT’s. I don’t see how he is still alive. I believe it must be a God-thing.
I don’t know about flying over Egypt but they would definitely would have to have flown over Saudi Arabia.
It would seem that “if” any missiles were really fired, those US ships would have been the target ‘if’ that range noted is max.
Or, has Iran or some other country supplied missiles that have a further range than a Tomahawk?
get your trainers to encourage a missle test.
get your whisperers to get the boat captain on high alert.
push the button for both sides – and give them credit.
Very plausible.
Another one I would venture virtually no one knows of is this:
In the 1980s, there were some US Navy submarines that were ‘decommissioned.’
Allegedly the CIA bought them and had them retrofitted for their use. It has been a long time, but I remember the article in a newspaper when it came out.
🤔
Yep. so they can “accurately report” as they frame the intended narrative/target.
its to that point – where our Government has lost all trust from the people whole loved this country the most.
If launched from the western coast of Yemen they could have, theoretically if super missiles, followed a path north across the Red Sea and crossed the Sinai Peninsula which is Egyptian territory.
There are as many wink-winks as there are nudge-nudges in this story.
Possible, but even from there, it was more direct cutting over a small swath of SA and Jordan.
Sinai would be right on the edge unless missiles bent a little around SA. Which could be plausible also to avoid a response from SA.
See map above.
In all Middle East conflagration scenarios someone’s getting violated.
Is it starting to makes? It should. It’s not Hamas, it’s Syria and who else? That’s right!
Two fleets, flotillas, troops… all they need is an excuse.
“Make sense”, typo
pipelines cant go over or under it.
… we know what the first casualty of war is …
Truth
So what’s the alternate hypothesis?
I doubt this came from Yemen, but I’m trying to think where they came from.
we fight wars with headlines and trickery now…
it supported the speech tonight.
1 + 1 = 2
I thought the speech came before?
if so they fumbled the play again. idiots
and I’m not watching speeches.,
I dont know if it happened yesterday or tonight, or whatever. I no longer even care about news since its all fake.
This site here hasnt led me astray so its about it.
Imagination.
Perhaps from the mind of the story teller?
my guess is that the missles and drones were real – and they weren’t heading towards Israel.
Prove they were real; you CAN’T.
Point!
Heading for a certain aircraft carrier.
We know the U.S. Navy has enormous offensive firepower but how powerful and lasting are the ship’s defenses. How much have they kept up with the advances in supersonic missiles etc. How many incoming missiles can they defend against? Are aircraft carriers becoming more vulnerable to mass missile attacks?
I hope the ease in which so called “Ukrainian sea drones or sea babies” hit the Russian ships isn’t any kind of comparison.
Arlan said [Here], “We know the U.S. Navy has enormous offensive firepower but how powerful and lasting are the ship’s defenses.” It got me thinking:
The forces of Evil seem to depend on the strength of the U.S. Military. It has always puzzled me that there are forces that are tearing our military and infrastructure down (and Obama seemed to be hell bent on that). But if they want power and control, they need strong military. Neocons want a strong military to make money off of it and keep a perpetual war. They want a black military leadership in the intelligence community to keep control.
Trump wanted a strong military to tell the world not to think about messing with our economic sovereignty. And that operates for the purposes of the Common man.
Obama and Clinton tore down our military personnel structure and the people in power are operatives now of the intelligence community. They want a black deep state military. But much of the military is till made up of Americans who know their ultimate loyalty is to the Constitution. Once the evil intent of those controlling the U.S. Military became apparent a significant portion of the military will not comply.
They have torn down the physical infrastructure of the U.S. Military, its ability to rebuild forces of war now occurring overseas by our enemies (China) or third world countries we have helped move from dependence to independence (India, Middle east, Japan). Europe has been weakened as a military force.
If the Intelligence community is developing its own evil military within our border: “decommissioned” submarines never decommissioned but lying in wait, staffed by undocumented military taken from illegal immigrants, it will only become a matter of time and we will have Chaos/Civil war within our own military and our own country
They cannot hide the Truth forever. If our government were operating by normal forces, Trump would have been president in 2020. Even if he weren’t then we would know that Trump was going to be president in 2024.
The evil Bankers/globalists, and America- Haters, and communists/Marxists are not aligned. They cannot hold the facade/lie for very much longer. We will know soon. The likelihood of making mistakes increases by the day. They can’t anticipate all the ways their lies will be visible to those seeking the truth.
When they are exposed the only way they can try to keep the Trillions they need flowing from the still free Americans is to enslave us. Or replace us with slave/immigrant labor. But We the People will not allow that.
If there is a civil war, what will the the “causes” that enable us people to fight with passion: In the U.S. civil war it was anti-slavery for the North, Protection of our states rights for the South.
Potential causes of civil war in this country are LGBT/Woke/Cities/Progressive vs Rural/Christian/Main Street Economics.
Globalist/Wall street vs Nationalist/Mainstreet won’t work, because the Globalists don’t have a military capable of enslaving We the Freedom loving American People, unless they have a military capable of overpowering us.
The more true Christians we have who are truly dedicated to the principles of Christ in all Nations, the more this world is buffered against the Greed and Love of Power of evil. They can only get us to fight each other if they lie to us. And we seek a Higher Truth — guided by the Spirit of God within us. Even non Christians are genetically wired to seek the higher spiritual meaning that makes sense — because He is our Creator
I’m always behind in reading and thinking — I will post these thought for reflection by others in the Treehouse on another thread.
It’s an absurd leap to say those missiles were “potentially” headed toward Israel. Yemen has been mired in a civil war for several years, with one side backed by the Saudis and the Houthis backed by Iran. The Houthis have shot missiles at the Saudis before.
Just by simply looking at the map, it looks to me that the Houthis were aiming at Jeddah and USS Carney happened to be in the area after having transited south through the Suez Canal.
The press-release might have been an inadvertent slip up. Technically a nation’s warships are considered to be its sovereign territory. So if those missiles and drones were aimed toward an Israeli warship out in the Red Sea or Gulf of Aden, well then that WOULD technically be missiles heading “toward Israeli territory.” Perhaps some Israeli ships headed out from Eilat toward the direction of Iran?
I am curious how many other US ships just happen to also be in the Red Sea. I would love to see the trajectory plotted on a globe rather than on a Robinson projection map.
Gulf of Tonkin.
Congress basically gave authorization for the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, a resolution based on ‘events’, part of which were highly exaggerated and part of which never happened (The US Navy even admitted it decades later). 50,000 more Americans then went on to die pretty much for nothing, except to provide cover for politicians, a political secdef and political generals.
“There is nothing new under the sun”.
And 2000 advisers.
yemen in the past has launched missiles towards saudi oil rigs/platforms/infrastructure with effectiveness. (See Yanbu Aramco Sinopec Refining Company in 2022 for recent reference).
the typical launch is conducted by sea (small boats/vessels) in the southern red sea just off coast of yemen…presumably this was done for several reasons:
closer range = higher probability of effectiveness (a timing and range thing)
deniability = not launched from yemen mainland, but from a sea area that has complicated multi national zones.
also noting: in 2019, a similar missile strike occurred with far more damage than the 2022 strike with sophisticated weapons that was attributed to IRAN.
is IRAN coordinating with yemen rebels?
what is the relationship IRAN vs Saudi Arabia? figure that out and you get closer to attribution (who benefits?). (note: as early as march 2023 these two countries achieved a show of cooperation and marked an important visit to firm up agreements not to interfere with each other. The HAMAS/HEZBOLLAH TERROR ATTACK ON ISRAEL CHANGES THAT RELATIONSHIP..
was IRAN testing the US Strike group abilities? This is how I would do it. A handful of missiles and drones is trivial to intercept and defeat.
bigger picture: launching thousands of missiles at the same time is an entirely different tactic and there is no effective defense against it.
tie up the US strike group with missile launches (yes, strike group is there to defend big oil and saudi arabia primarily and to show a force deterrent to IRAN (and others) not to enter and escalate as Israel determines how to prosecute this terror attack.
But I will remind: these are solely my opinions and 2/ this is war, getting reliable information is very difficult.
God Bless America
God Bless Israel
Those are very plausible scenarios.
Kudos
YES! Missiles were from IRan and they were testing to see the US response
If I was Iran, I would want war while this idiot was president.
If you were Iran, you’d be at the table as the Derp State made their plans.
so true. that is where we are now.
Not sure how much of a test this is supposed be against a ship commissioned in 1996.
Probing reaction time and crew response? Maybe.
Granted, equipment upgrades and overhauls over time during planned maintenance periods increased the ship’s baseline capabilities.
Then, you have newer hulls being designed and built with all the newest stuff already integrated that will be definitely be added to the rest of the fleet over time.
The Saudi Iranian detente in March was followed by a Saudi Yemeni peace in April.
Also, Iran doesn’t have cruise missiles with this range. Russia does.
I am now, sadly, of the opinion that the WEF’s desired World War has commenced.
My son (a veteran) said that last weekend: WWIII has already started.
And the Viet Cong Navy (consisting of 3 rafts) conducted an unprovoked attack of the USS MIDWAY battle group, in the Gulf of Tonkin,…yeah, right.
Bullshirt, but hey now that U.S. personelle are “under attack” why, lets go “all in” and send Israel some $ and weopons, so long as they promise not to actually USE them, and slip in a much of boney for Ukraine, while we’re at it!
Amir Tsarfati reported various times recently about Yemen today…
https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel
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We are witnessing the massive flow of Iranian militia forces from Iraq and Yemen into Syria and Lebanon as well as a possible new front from Yemen if those missiles were aimed at Israel.
It’s possible that we are fighting simultaneously against Iranian proxies in:
Gaza
Lebanon
Syria
Yemen
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The Houthis in Yemen take responsibility for firing a barrage of missiles and drones towards Israeli territory
As mentioned, most of them were intercepted by an American warship
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According to foreign sources, Saudi Arabia also intercepted one missile of the barrage that the Houthis in Yemen launched.
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Israeli officials also confirm that Saudi Arabia intercepted at least one missile. Also, 15 drones were launched from Yemen and some of them were shot down by electronic warfare.
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After the Pentagon announcement – Israeli officials confirm: 2-5 missiles were launched from Yemen and aimed at Israel.
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After the revelation of the interception of the missiles from Yemen, Abdellohab Al-Mahbashi, a member of the political bureau of the Houthis (loyalists of Iran in Yemen), says:
“The Yemenis’ hand is on the trigger and they are waiting for the order to move”
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I have no doubt that Iran is behind this and wants to attack Israel and stick it to the US.If needed Yemen and thoseforces must be killed to teach them a damn lesson
Another Gulf of Tonkin incident
Bravo Zulu SD!!
Hopefully ,they didn’t shoot down any passenger planes.
The Navy has done that before.
Wartime president narrative, picture of strength, while trying to play all sides this is dictator crap, waiting to see it all play out.
The Houthi rebel forces in Yemen do have access to long range strike weapons, including ICBMS, cruise missiles, and drones, mostly based on Iranian technology. Jeddah is well within Houthi range, and once or twice, the Houthis actually managed to lob an ICBM as far north as Yanbu.
The Houthis are allied with Iran and have long been anti-Israel in terms of stated ideology. Perhaps the Iranians have provided the Houthis with the long-range Soumar cruise missile: 2000km – 3000km range. Eilat, Israel is well within that particular missile’s range. The Shahed 136 suicide drone has a 2,000km range and is also capable of hitting Eilat.
Here are the details concerning the Soumar courtesy of CSIS: https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/soumar/
The interception of the cruise missiles and drones in the northern Red Sea coincides with ongoing drone attacks against three U.S bases in Syria and two bases in Iraq.
This is Iran’s way of tapping Washington on the shoulder and demonstrating, in a minimal way, its ability to strike back hard if the U.S. unleashes its airpower against Hamas or Hezbollah.
is the SM2 and/or nextgen sparrow capable of intercepting these weapons? genuinely do not know…just a question to consider. I look forward to reading more of your posts and possible replies.
God Bless America
Within the hour, the U.S. Naval Institute reported that the USS Carney used the SM-2 to shoot down the cruise missiles.
https://news.usni.org/2023/10/19/u-s-destroyer-used-sm-2s-to-down-3-land-attack-missiles-launched-from-yemen-says-pentagon
They say it successfully shot down one of our cruise missiles.
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/standard-missile-2-sm-2-us/?cf-view
ABSOLUTELY!!! IMO they must be turned into glass. Useless bunch of inbred pre-medieval savages
An ICBM is an InterContinental Ballistic Missile.
Correct. ….which means it is NOT a cruise missile; cannot “fly”, and must use a ballistic (high parabolic) trajectory to reach its target. There can be some fine (vs. coarse) guidance incorporated for precision..
this might answer my questions.
the capabilities of the SM2 block IV and nextgen sparrow have evolved to intercept more sophisticated threats…I was unaware of these new capabilities.
short answer: yes, it would seem these US weapons can intercept classic and supersonic cruise missiles…(hyper weapons? different story…and I do believe that IRAN does possess some degree of compentency in the hypervelocity weapons development…whether that is back engineering what they can buy or steal from russia, the us and china is a separate question.
We don’t have the capability to take out hypersonic weapons, leastwise, not during hypersonic flight, but, hypersonics must slow in the final phase in order to employ sensors and adjust final targeting operations, which is where it becomes vulnerable again.
Apparently in hypersonic flight the near plasma envelope induced prevents certain communications and sensor capabilities.
Interesting to read that article debunk the quoted range.
Not really. Though that article provides a quick and dirty overview, it does not account for the possibility that Iran has been able to improve its long-range strike capabilities with Russian technology in return for Iran’s provision of long-range suicide drones and other ammunition to Russia’s war effort in Ukraine.
Justifiably suspicious.
The missiles were admittedly not aimed at the American warships, so I don’t know how this can be used to chivy the U.S. population into supporting a forever war. Not exactly a Gulf of Tonkin incident.
US public opinion is NO LONGER sought after … just a bunch of international lawyers trying to create an “incident” that allow the word JUSTIFIES and JUSTIFIED in media bullet points.
Big Ugly.
they are doing it mask off and knowing we know.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that information.
If they were do you really think this crew running things would admit it.
Biden is still going around insinuating his son died fighting in Iraq.
If there were missiles they were from Iran.
right, but if someone in America says that they will be arrested and put in prison for years with no trial
This isn’t the first time the Houthi have fired missiles at/near our ships in the Red Sea.
In 2016, the USS Mason, a sister ship of USS Carney, shot down two missiles fired at the ship by the Houthis when Mason was transiting the Ba- al-Mandeb, the strait between Djibouti and Yemen.
This is NOT comparable to the Gulf of Tonkin.
I remember that. In retaliation, President Obama ordered the destruction of three shore-base radar sites involved in that attack. All three were destroyed and the Houthis left the U.S. Navy alone after that. My suspicion is that the Houthis had mistaken the Mason for a Saudi naval vessel. Oops.
Wikipedia specs of the Tomahawk LAND ATTACK Missile.
Tomahawk (missile) – Wikipedia
Hitting Israel, Gaza or Egypt is well within the range of the LATEST versions of this weapon. The emphasis is on the “latest VERSIONS”.
The Russians also manufacture and have provided to China Inc. Missiles that are equal to the Tomahawk in capability (e.g. variants of the SS-N-30A or 3M-14 Kalibr), as well as capable of being launched from a land based system.
Is it technically doable? YES
Does it make sense? NO, because as said above, it would take the latest version of the newer Land Attack Missiles to do the job. That means either the US or Russia very RECENTLY supplied and manned the launchers. Also, as Sundance states why wait until now to launch them and not hit a Saudi Target?? Further, attack a profile that makes more sense would be to take advantage of the ability of a Cruise Missile to use its range to avoid defenses and being detected by flying over LAND.
Personally, my money is on US CIA or Special OPS BEING the culprits. After all we are talking about the US Government that allowed soldiers to be murdered during the Afghanistan Withdrawal and who blew up the NordStream Pipe line.
To choreograph this “incident” would be very easy, if it’s all us systems involved.
They could be simply probing our defenses and gathering info. Where in the Red Sea is the USS Carney? Most likely in the south.
this^ (and noting: similar missile “attacks” have happened in the past and recently with poor results…raising the question if this was simple incompetence or collecting military readiness capability.
prediction: If Israel decides *justifiably in my opinion* to take the gloves off, then IRAN will react and send a barrage of rockets/missiles from yemen and the red sea area to occupy the strike group and create a two region combat engagement. Expect to see probes soon on the force protection assets around the carrier, it’s littoral vessels and the critical infrastructure ports that supply it. While it may be true that these vessels can remain at sea for a very long time…engaging missiles and rockets into the thousands, even hundreds, would require a rapid resupply. damaging THAT and you render the strike groups ineffective for the purpose they were sailed to provide.
God Bless America
Well, let’s cut to the chase. The joebama regime needs the US to look like heros. We are defending Israel thingy. In the mean time, joebama has sent 3.5 billion to Iran, according to RFK, and the 6 billion. Not to mention the millions to “gaza”, aka hamas and then another 100 million to “gaza” for “humanitarian aid.” Which goes through hamas which governs gaza and gets first dibs on everything.
Don’t forget that PedoJoe isn’t enforcing sanctions, allowing Iran to make 100’s of billions from oil sales.
Welp, buckle up. The FJB handler crew hissy fit is off and running! I loathe these people. Oh, and FJB and his Deep State warriors!
Will the MSM ask the questions SD raises. No.
I know some people sadly think a military draft is well deserved for the younger generation, but I’m of the opinion that many wars are little more than mass sacrifices to a certain evil entity, similar to abortion.
I refuse to support any of them.
Careful, Thinking is domestic terrorism.
And the pentagon claimed it happened just like that, cross my heart and hope to die.
Most I believe, are missing the bigger play here. The US has done everything possible to provoke Russia into war and nothing has worked. So now, they are using a back door through Israel who happens to be bombing Damascus in Syria and who’s helping Syria? The Russians!
Everyone should at least know that Hamas has no Navy, Air Force and very little structured military and they are certainly no match for Israel. Hamas is the scapegoat folks. The “ Rules based order” sociopaths have lost control, are embarrassed and are now doing what sociopaths do best, become Violent.
My personal opinion (and I know nothing about nothing) is that Russia and China have laid a trap for our feeble minded useless blue pajama president and we’re all going to suffer for it. As is the entire world.
Peace through strength aren’t just words. So sad. None of this would be happening if they had not stolen the election.
The only thing that confirms is that if the U S Government says it, then it has a 99% probability of being a lie !
I thought the missiles were shot down over the Gulf of Tonkin.
Ehh, what do I know?
Likely this was an encore performance of all those dangerous weather balloons, high school science-projects and geek hobby projects that the US Air Force shot down at multi million dollar expense after they allowed the real Chinese Spy Balloon to fly over a dozen US military installations and nuclear sites.
Sad thing is, we can’t trust anyone in the Government or Military to tell the truth. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it’s probably a duck. We’re probably going to go to war soon.
I thought Russia had the capability of 1500 miles….
But, I know nothing.
They are walking the world into WWIII and it makes me sick.
Russia has ballistic missles that can go 10,000 miles.
“Russia has several intercontinental ballistic missiles, including … … the Sarmat with a maximum range of about 11,200 miles (18,000 kilometers). “
I have seen a claim that Russian cruise missiles can reach 3000 km.
ICBMs travel much farther but leave the atmosphere.
Cruise missiles usually travel low to evade detection.
I think I read all the comments…so I ask this, already knowing the answer:
Anybody hear from our sub fleet?/s
You know they are playing cat and mouse under the sea…but with who?
Damn, this is a “Gulf of Tonkin” REDUX……
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young men gone?
They’re all in uniform
Oh, when will you ever learn?
Oh, when will you ever learn?
House of Saud calls Iran – 1st in history just a week ago. They link arms against Israel. Yemen fires missiles that would’ve landed in Saud and broken that bond up but SHAZAM – Brandon to the rescue of WW3! No thank you from House of Saud to Brandon.
According to an article at Gateway Pundit, if the Houthis had the Iranian Soumar cruise missiles that have a 2000 km range and the Iranian Shahed-136 drones which have a similar range, the Houthis could possibly have targeted Israel. But that is a big IF and the spokesman’s use of the word “potentially” is of note.
That GP article also talks about two attacks on US forces in Syria. From the Al-Omar oil fields where the US is stealing oil daily. Also reported was an attack on the The Conoco Gas Field and US Operations base.
Moon of Alabama’s hypothesis is that the US is going to aim at Syria to remove Assad and Russia from Syria. The Russian contingent in Syria is very small. This story seems to be working on expanding the conflict for the benefit of Obama goals.
Link to the GP article:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/breaking-two-separate-attacks-u-s-bases-syria
Link to the Moon of Alabama article:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/us-deploys-large-force-eyes-on-syria.html
I believe NOTHING this administration says! If Iran had missiles with “way-point” sophistication and 1300-1500 mile range they would have already fired them at Israel instead of giving them to Yemen. It is only about 1200 miles from northern Iran to Israel and with their inflated sense of military might they wouldn’t hesitate to try and inflict damage to Israel. The Obama era general/admirals are all just as stupid as John Kirby or Milktoast Miley so don’t trust them either. This entire story is more that fishy, it’s a bold faced lie.
Iran has drones and guided missiles with sufficient range (2000 kilometers or more) and a military that could devastate the US military presence in the middle east. Hezbollah has stockpiled over 100,000 missiles, well hidden in Beirut among the population, in the south, and/or underground. If either of them is threatened they could do lots and lots of damage.
Iran is no paper tiger and has a realistic sense of their military capability.
The US and EU sanctions on Russia have caused the dawning of a multi-polar world which has allowed Iran and other countries under US sanctions to circumvent those sanctions. So, you can blame the US sanctions policy for splitting the world economy and empowering Iran.
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Honestly, is the US military that incompetent? They don’t know where they came from? They don’t know where they were headed (oh, but they weren’t headed for our fleet, no, not that).
I have difficulty believing that the military has become so degraded. It’s either they’ve gone downhill to a stunning degree in a few short years, or we’ve been lied to for years about how we are the best.
Either way, we are in trouble. Big trouble.
So supposedly Yemen fires missiles aiming for Israel but they have to go over Egypt first?
Why not fire them in a straight line?
You have to have permission to fly weapons over a neighboring country.
Giving permission for another country to use your airspace for their weapons constitutes participation in an act of war.
Saudi Arabia would never agree to let Yemeni’s use their airspace for an act of war and would likely retaliate strongly if that were to occur.
I just want to inform the Treepers out there that the Military Summary Channel reported tonight that a US Global Hawk defense drone (200,000,000.00 )flying over the black see has been neutralized while on a spy mission on behalf of the Ukraine military.
I haven’t been able to find any confirmation . Usually the Military Summary Channel is very reliable.
Looks like the numskull in chief and all the craven animal traitors running this country have planted the seeds for WWIII.
On another topic i have an observation.
Does anyone else find it amazing to see Rino republicans threaten physical harm to Matt Gaetz just because they are loosing political points to him and his supporters ?
These same Rinos never seem to get upset when they are upstaged by Democrat politicos.
I think there is a simple explanation. The political opportunists have no shame so it is understandable that being upstaged and embarrassed by the media and the Democrats as no effect on them .
He who has no shame cannot be ashamed.
Loosing this once great Republic is just their cost of doing business.
But mostly the number one reason for their anger is due to the fact that Matt Gaetz is putting the millions of dollars of slush fund largess , bribery and kickback monies they care most about.
Putting the money at risk