There has been much banter about 500 to 600 Americans who are currently in Gaza and the need to evacuate them. Let us not pretend. Any American who intentionally took part in Palestinian civilian life in Hamas led Gaza did so knowing they were living within a population controlled by terrorists. It should not be the position of the U.S. government to avert people from the consequences of their adult decisions.
Has anyone ever noticed that when Democrats are in power, the world ends up in perpetual globe-skipping crisis? National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan appears on CBS to discuss the current security risks within Gaza, as the Israelis begin the difficult challenge of wiping out the Hamas terrorists. Both Sullivan and the pearl-clutching Brennan pretend the Palestinian people do not support their terrorist leaders. WATCH (Transcript Below):
[Transcript] MARGARET BRENNAN: We go now to White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan. Jake, I want to get straight to it. This is going to be very brutal urban warfare when Israel moves into Gaza. How much time do you have to get the 500-600 Americans trapped there out?
WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JAKE SULLIVAN: Well, Margaret, we’re in daily, indeed, hourly contact with our counterparts in the Israeli Defense Forces and security services. And we’re talking to them about their plans for moving in on the ground in Gaza. It’s not for me to say what their timetable is. I think they will need to speak to that. But we are very focused on, first, as you said, making sure that all American citizens in Gaza have safe passage out of Gaza and into Egypt. We’re working on that around the clock, we’re not going to rest until that happens. And second, we’re very focused on making sure that the broader civilian population of Gaza, because the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza have nothing to do with Hamas, that they can get to safe areas, that they can get access to food, water, medicine, shelter, and that they can be protected from the fighting as it intensifies and as a potential ground operation moves forward.
MARGARET BRENNAN: If any of those Palestinian civilians are permitted to leave Gaza, does the United States have assurances from Israel that they will eventually be allowed to return to their homes? Or will they just become refugees?
SULLIVAN: We are not at the point of discussing the operational details of people, the larger civilian population leaving Gaza. We’re focused right now on getting them to safe areas, not in the north of Gaza, but down in the south of Gaza. In terms of the larger question of whether those who leave can return, the United States has a very simple proposition on this: it’s when people leave their homes in conflict, leave their houses in conflict, they deserve the right to return to those homes- to those houses. And this situation is no different.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The United States deployed a second aircraft carrier to the eastern Mediterranean. I’m wondering if you have new intelligence that shows that the threat from Iran is growing.
SULLIVAN: We don’t have some specific new intelligence that the threat is different today from yesterday. The threat yesterday was real. The threat today is real. There is a risk of an escalation of this conflict, the opening of a second front in the north, and of course of Iran’s involvement- that is a risk. And that’s a risk that we have been mindful of since the start. It’s why the President moves so rapidly and decisively to get an aircraft carrier into the eastern Mediterranean, to get aircraft into the Gulf, because he wants to send a very clear message of deterrence to any state or any actor that would seek to exploit this situation. And he said it best when he spoke last week, in the- in the aftermath of this brutal and vicious terrorist attack to any state that would think about doing this: don’t.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, Iran’s foreign minister put out a public statement saying that Iran cannot remain a spectator. What does that mean to you? Are you concerned about proxy forces? Are you concerned that the State of Iran is getting drawn in?
SULLIVAN: Well, first, we are concerned about proxy forces. Lebanese Hezbollah, a proxy force of Iran, is there, a raid on Israel’s northern border with considerable military capacity and a history of attacking the State of Israel. And in fact, we have seen in the last few days skirmishes across that northern border that only enhances the risk of escalation. But of course, we can’t rule out that Iran would choose to get directly engaged some way; we have to prepare for every possible contingency. That’s exactly what the President has done. That is part of what has motivated the President’s movement of these assets, to send that clear message of deterrence to make clear that this war should not escalate, and that no other actor should seek to exploit this situation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Is there diplomatic outreach to Iran right now?
SULLIVAN: We have means of communicating privately with Iran. And we have availed ourselves of those means over the past few days to make clear privately that which we have said publicly.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When it comes to the Israeli forces moving into Gaza, do you have a definition of success from the Prime Minister?
SULLIVAN: The definition of success ultimately will be the long term safety and security of the Jewish state and the Jewish people. And what that means is their ability to eliminate the threat that Hamas poses to Israel. That is the definition of success that they have set out, that is what they are working for in trying to take out the terror infrastructure in Gaza. They are working through that, as they have said, through the aerial campaign and ultimately they are looking at operations on the ground and otherwise to try to effectuate that outcome.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But there are 2 million Palestinians living there who, as you said, many of whom have absolutely nothing to do with Hamas. So at this point, are you expecting Israeli military forces to occupy that area long-term? Who steps in and governs if Hamas is routed out?
SULLIVAN: These are important long term questions to begin asking and grappling with today. We believe that Israel is grappling with them, we are talking to them about them. I’m not going to share the details of those private conversations. But what I will say is, right now, the focus of the Israeli operation is on that terrorist infrastructure in Gaza. And I’m not going to speak to some of these longer term questions at this time, even as we are grappling with them. I will say, though, that it is absolutely critical, as President Biden said from the very beginning, that we as fellow democracies, the US and Israel, that we embrace the rule of law and the laws of war, and the United States will work with Israel, the United Nations, Egypt, Jordan, and other countries, to do all that we can to ensure the protection of civilians and that those civilians have access to the basic necessities of food and water, of shelter, of medicine. That is a priority of ours, in the hours and days ahead, excuse me, in the hours and days ahead.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And the targeting of that kind of basic infrastructure is potentially a war crime, is it not?
SULLIVAN: Look, I’m not going to react to or comment on every report that we see. There’s a lot of fog of war. What we will say is the protection of civilians and the protection of those people who are trying to get to safety, as well as their ability to access food, water, medicine, shelter, these things should be respected and should very much be a central focus of everyone involved in this, including ourselves, the Israelis, the United Nations, and the regional countries.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The Palestinian Authority, a long time ago, renounced violence. I saw President Biden spoke to Mahmoud Abbas yesterday. Is your expectation that the Palestinian Authority would potentially govern Gaza? And how concerned are you that violence will spread in the West Bank?
SULLIVAN: Look, again, I think you’re asking a very important question about the long term in Gaza. What I will say is this: Gaza being governed by a brutal and vicious terrorist organization, is not just a challenge for the State of Israel. It’s a challenge for the Palestinian people, because Hamas does not represent their highest aspirations. Hamas is not looking out for, caring one iota about their welfare and well being. So the Palestinian people in Gaza do deserve a leadership that allows them to live lives in peace and dignity and security. What that exactly looks like going forward. I’m not in a position to say today, but it is the right question to be asking now, as this unfolds, because we have to think not just about the immediate term, but about the long term too.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Jake, what do Americans need to be bracing themselves for in the coming days?
SULLIVAN: Well, first, the American people have already been through something here not in simply watching this brutality, this barbarism unfold. Of course, that’s nothing compared to what the Israeli people have suffered the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. But the American people are personally affected by this too. And you’ve seen it in the outpouring of grief, of solidarity of sympathy for those innocents who lost their lives. In the days ahead,the American people will, of course, be watching closely to see whether or not this conflict escalates. And the United States government, the Biden administration, our President is doing everything he can to ensure that does not happen, that this conflict is contained to Gaza does not expand beyond that. And that Israel can succeed in rooting out the terrorist infrastructure of Hamas, while the United States works with others to protect the welfare of the innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
MARGARET BRENNAN: This is not the only crisis you’re dealing with. There’s still a land war in Europe. You said just a few days ago to congressional leaders that US aid to Ukraine was running dangerously low. That, as there’s a renewed offensive. How close to crisis are we on that front?
SULLIVAN: We can continue to sustain deliveries of critical ammunition for them to defend against that Russian offensive and continue pressing forward in other areas in Ukraine. And you’re right, Margaret, that Russian offensive is very much underway. The Russians are throwing a lot at the Ukrainians in the northeast, in the east, and we need to make sure that we continue rushing necessary military supplies to them. We’re doing that. But we need Congress to act. And the President has made clear that he is going to go to Congress with a package of funding for Ukraine as well as continued support for Israel. You can expect intensive engagement with Congress this very week, as we work on such a package and seek to secure bipartisan support for it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And that’s a $2 billion package that would bundle Ukraine, Israel, the border, support for Taiwan altogether.
SULLIVAN: Well, the number is going to be significantly higher than that. But it will, as I said, certainly include the necessary military equipment to defend freedom, sovereignty and territorial integrity in Ukraine, and to help Israel defend itself as it fights its terrorist foes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Jake Sullivan, National Security Adviser to the President. Thank you for your time today.
SULLIVAN: Thanks for having me.
I know lots of Mexicans/“Hispanics” and not one of them would ever even think of supporting cartels!
It’s called sarcasm
I’m sick and tired of Obama not being identified as the responsible person for this entire Middle East fiasco! Put the Muslim Brotherhood / Islam on top. And underneath list, Hamas, Hezbolla, Taliban, Houthi, BLM, Antifa, and a whole bunch more throughout the world, especially Africa that is largely ignored, under this heading. They’re all the same, just different names and geographic locations to keep us from clearly seeing who IT is! Total bullshit, our elected politicians, the media & social media, Hollywood, Academia, and sadly most Democrats, and Republicans are our major groups responsible for keeping the American public misinformed. It is time for someone with balls to put out a clear and comprehensive article that should be broadcast 24/7!
TRUMP 2024 and beyond
deep state
and its chief operative operating publicly, barely acting with any subterfuge
proud of his role ruining his country and the world
barack obama—born to the Dunham spook family, groomed to be an op from youth, presumably used as a gay lure in arab and muslim countries as an adult, then pushed upwards till the presidency and the post presidency ongoing coup
expose him and perhaps some of the left idiots (even a small percentage) that havent lost their minds yet, might come back to their senses and realize how badly we have been played.
the deep state began as nazi adjacent, continued as nazi promoting, utilized nazi techniques in mass hysteria, mind control, and immorality, couching their evil in ‘communist-fighting’, all the while enriching its top echelon, while fomenting coups for fruit companies, oil companies, bankers and weapons manufacturer.
coups foreign and domestic.
A gay lure huh? Funny how that’s being used as a trope now that we know he’s gay. That’s called working back from a conclusion. I doubt you have a reputable source for that or your claim of being raised by the cia.
for the sake of conversation, let’s just call it a hypothesis.
Dinesh D’Souza “called it” all that is going on now in the ME in his movie “2016: Obama’s America”.
A former colleague & friend, certainly understood what you are saying. Around 2010 this long time family friend, broke all ties with anything American. We met during the Vietnam War. She marched with the Jane Fonda’s; I detested them.
The answer to her prayers & other liberals, came when Obama was elected. All that made her & other libs capable of being friends, was ripped away.
She joined other radical liberals in health field & traveled to Palestine. The mission? To see the health care needs. This followed a like trip with same group to Cuba.
I used to ask why there was no involvement in health care in Appalachian area.
By mutual neglect, the “friendship,” had become weakened, & died from the malignant religion of hate for me & others who love the USA.
Congratulations on removing a toxic weed from your life.
They ARE all the same. Exactly right.
Wait a second, isn’t it the fault of elites thousands of miles away drawing some lines on a map, irrespective of the people living there?
……..for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God? ………………….. David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.
If the jews don’t understand what they are up against, many more of them will die needlessly at the hands of vile islamist barnyard animals. Why pussy-foot around? Just ash-tray them already. I’m tired of this stupid crap.
500-600 Americans. You know, I live in a decent neighborhood. I don’t go stay in East St Louis, West Memphis, or Gary Indiana. Why would you be in Gaza in those conditions if you hadn’t made a decision to tradeoff any comfort or convenience to live there under a terrorist regime? Am I so ignorant as to what freedom and prosperity Gaza has to offer?
Why should these people matter more than say 500-600 loyal Afghans we left to get slaughtered by the Taliban?
As for the “Palestinians”, show me the ones that deal with the Israelis in good faith.
As for the Israelis, don’t keep telling me we have to get involved because “muh democracy”. I’m not that impressed with our democratic institutions.
The Romans would have sorted this out with about a hundred miles of crucifixes and a few decimations. That’d really have reduced the carbon in their day.
Let em kill each other off. The world will be a much better place.
Sundance, thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing the transcript to the Sullivan/Brennan interview. It pains me to ever have to actually view and listen to voices such as theirs. God bless.
Good afternoon everyone. I’m not offering advice, just thinking out loud here. I used to have a Palestinian workout partner. We respectfully conversed a lot. Based on those conversations, I know the Palestinian people support Hamas in extremely large numbers. Here is the thinking out loud part–what if a prominent republican stood up and told the people of Gaza to rise up and kill every Hamas soldier or supporter?
Again, what if…..
Thoughts?
But again, I know damn well they hate Jews more than they love their children.
I don’t think they’d do it at all. It would be a good test, but the fact that these ding-dongs in this interview allude to the Gaza-ites having “nothing to do with Hamas,” I think we can conclude that they quite likely support Hamas without having to test the theory as you propose. Why would they even say this unless they’re attempting to obfuscate the obvious truth?
Because, after all, a radical muslim (Hamas, e.g.) wants to cut your head off. A moderate muslim (Gaza-dwellers, e.g.) wants the radical muslim to cut your head off.
There are two types of muslims. Moderates and Extremists. An extreme muslim wants to cut off the head of jews and infidels. A moderate muslim wants an extreme muslim to cut off the heads of jews and infidels. That is the difference.
Hear. Hear.
I am Israeli. And yes, some really vile characters in the DNC. I pray that Trump will be back and I pray that he will be able to dismantle what you’re calling the Deep State.
Posted this in another article. It’s a must to look at.
https://palwatch.org/page/34650
What Hamas did was wrong because mass murder, war on civilians and crimes against humanity are Bad!
There is no exception to this rule. If you are attempting to kill or displace millions of civilians, if your airstrikes and artillery are have a 25% kids as victims, if you are using water as a weapon, if you threaten to bomb humanitarian relief convoys. . . YOU ARE ONE HUNDRED FOLD WORSE.
Let us all seek peace while understanding that had our place been changed with the Palestinians we would fight for our land, our people and our nation just as they do – with whatever is at hand.
Its not their land. It never was.
Israel is seeking peace. And the only way to peace is to kill those that want to disrupt that peace and instead, kill innocent people. Just like a leftist, there is NO seeking peace with those that only want to kill you. There is no rationalizing, no reasoning with, no negotiation, NOTHING. They will not stop with their stated goal unless they are STOPPED COMPLETELY. Israel has tried to live with these insane terrorists, and appease them, but they are implacable. Israel gave them the gaza strip, as they demanded, complete with a turnkey city, and it was destroyed and not appreciated.
As the saying goes, if all jews laid down their weapons, there would be mass jewish genocide. If all muslims laid down their weapons, there would be peace. That is the difference. The muslims in gaza have proven themselves untrustworthy and only see death of the jews. They wanted a war, and now they are getting what they wanted. They thought the world would once again stop Israel from attacking them, and they thought wrong. The world is getting MIGHTY TIRED of putting up with these sub-humans who have no value of life. We tried…we really really tried to get along. But like a roach infestation, you do not negotiate with them to leave…you wipe them out entirely. You leave not a single one left to breed more…you wipe them ALL OUT.
That is the only solution for PEACE.
Israelis would kill them indiscriminately like they have been for decades .
What other country warns civilians to leave areas that they plan to bomb?
The US did in WW 2.
Where?
In the Bible, God makes it clear He gave Israel to the Jews.
He warned them they would wind up scattered and homeless someday. And until 1948 AD, they were.
It is pointless to fight against God. You will not win. God made promises to the Jews of Israel, and HE WILL KEEP THEM.
I believe this is why the Crusades failed. The Christian Crusaders tried to do for God what God had already pledged He would do Himself. God does not like it when we tell Him, “Stand back, Lord. I got this.” Not in regards to His own promises, anyway.
There are no Palestinians anyway. They are JORDANIANS. Study your History.
Too late now to try and force Jordan to take them back, though. Jordan doesn’t have the money (to say the least).
It’s bat crap crazy backwards when FBI publicly states MAGA Trump supporters are a domestic threat and Palestinians aren’t trying to destroy Israel. Crazy clown show and yes very very abusive of law abiding citizens.
I’ll admit the first paragraph pissed me off, but then I realized I’ve been doing the same thing about the dual-citizens rushing to fly out of Israel.
What’d Dave Chappelle say? “And if I’m wrong, then perhaps we’re wrong.”
Boy, how quickly we forget about the immorality of collective-punishment.
The worst part of all this is seeing how susceptible we all are to behaving like the left we constantly denounce. When we say “there but for the grace of God go I,” I don’t think we fully grasp how true that is.
Sullivan: “In terms of the larger question of whether those who leave can return, the United States has a very simple proposition on this: it’s when people leave their homes in conflict, leave their houses in conflict, they deserve the right to return to those homes- to those houses. And this situation is no different.”
This of course B.S.. If the United States believes in the right to return how come the over Five million displaced 1st and 2nd generations Palestinians are being refused the right to return to Palestine?
The Biden administration is pretending all right! They are pretending that they have a balanced view towards the Palestinians by for example announcing that Israel must respect international law but meanwhile, they are looking the other way as Israel is carrying genocide in Gaza at this very moment!
Just look at Joe Biden’s cabinet. Without exception, EVERY position of importance is filled with ardent Zi0nists. Every. Single. One.! Joe Biden has proudly proclaimed that he is a Zi0nist. There can be no doubt about what future they envision for Israel. It’s one that does not include any Palestinians within a thousand miles.
Gaza has the natural gas fields in the Medi.
Hamasocide. Hamas is using civilians.. a majority that voted for Hamas to govern them. Tough titty I say. Israel is trying but one can only do so much.
So, you are fine with a native American kicking you out of your home because he has the “right of return?”
Please correct if I am wrong, but isn’t the “viewing audience” for Fake the Nation just over 3 million viewers?? Isn’t that like under 1% of the population??? Was the other 99% in church??? IMESHO, an “interview” between maureen and jake is a waste of time and electrons, and perhaps a few IQ points!
It is not possible to believe in the Koran and to also believe in the US Constitution. The values and rules of either are diametrically opposed to the other. Those US citizens who live in Gaza made their choice of where their loyalties lie.
Exactly. “Americans” brings to mind hapless college spring breakers and families from the Midwest on vacation. These “Americans” are likely all Arab naturalized refugees or their first generation American born children. Hamas sympathizers who hate Jews and hate the United States even more.
And some Jihadis also.
How many were left behind in Afghanistan???
Senate Report Feb 2022 — 9,000 Americans Left Behind in Afghanistan by the Biden Administration
Nine Thousand. Abandoned by their own government. No media coverage. Forgotten.
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https://www.risch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2022/2/bombshell-report-biden-admin-left-9k-americans-in-afghanistan-originally-claimed-150
Sickening. This is beyond absurd. 500-600 who chose to live under a terrorist regime are more important than the 9000 Americans abandoned in Afghanistan?
Preposterous.
9000 huh? What were they doing there? We don’t leave 9000 military behind – that’s unheard of. So 9000 Americans that were born here or have residency thru marriage? I don’t see actual white Americans being lost over there. Not even a couple.
I hate my government.
Hope you’re on a vpn at least
68% to 89% of Palestinians support terror attacks on Israel in PCPO poll – Democrats want to bring1 Million to the US
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/89-palestinians-support-terror-attacks-israel-democrats-want/
Is it just me or do we have some new trolls today?
Every.Single.Day.
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Islam conquered Israel once and that means Islam claims ownership forever. There will never be peace in Israel.
If you are a Christian or Jewish you are scripturally admonished to pray for peace in Jerusalem
There will be peace in Israel when Christ returns, and not before.
A 2nd coming for what? If he was the messiah, all that was prophesied that would happen when the messiah came, would have already happened, and it did not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-israel-must-eliminate-hamas-but-path-to-palestinian-statehood-also-needed/
More pretending.
Biden acknowledges that Israel won’t be expected to immediately pursue a two-state solution after the October 7 Hamas onslaught but argues that Jerusalem “understands that significant portions of the Palestinian people do not share the views of Hamas and Hezbollah.”
That’s the story and they are sticking to it.
Jake Sullivan….
The same Jake Sullivan who said at a press conference a week before Hamas attack…
That the Middle East is now the quietest it has ever been in 20 years.
And I am supposed to believe anything that comes out of his mouth….😡😡
Not happening.
“It should not be the position of the U.S. government to avert people from the consequences of their adult decisions.” This simple SD statement identifies the essential conceptual/philosophical distinction between the conservatives and the lefty loons.
By international law, Hamas is both a terrorist organization and a genocidal organization. To fit the definition of being a genocidal entity, all that is needed is the intent to commit genocide and one act of killing. By International law Israel has not only the right but a duty to protect its civilians from genocide and defeat Hamas. Any country that tells Israel to stop before Israel has defeated Hamas is going against international law and is on the side of genocide.
Note to Jake Sullivan, the latest poll from Gaza showed that a majority of Gazans support Hamas. So the idea that many Gazans have “absolutely nothing to do with Hamas,” is a complete lie.
The idea that the Palestinian Authority has renounced violence is an unbelievable lie. Nothing could be further from the truth. They honor Palestinians who kill Jews by naming streets after them! They pay them a salary for killing Jews when they are in prison. They celebrated Hamas’s brutality in killing and beheading babies.
The US is in contravention of international law if they pressure Israel to create a state of genocidal terrorists next to Israel. Israel cannot survive that, and the US well knows that. It is the goal of the Obama=Biden administration to destroy Israel one way or another. That is why they paid for this war to happen.
if I had to guess, the IDF is not sharing a whole lot of information with a Jake Sullivan.
If Americans, are they really, of their own free will decide to live in a snake pit, Gaza, then they will be bit. Thus, they are giving support and aide to a group that has neither Israel’s or the USofA’s interests at heart. You sow the wind, you will reap the whirlwind.
That’s a constant response you hear from people that while Hamas are terrorists, the Palestinian people are innocent.
“We have means of communicating privately with Iran.”
You always have, Jake.
I’m old enough to remember when false accusations of ‘back door communications’ between Trump and Russia called for Trump’s execution!!
Putin has far more respect for the American people than you do, Jake.
The Ayatollah would swing your weak, weirdo ass from a crane!!
Those who do not agree with Hamas need to round up the terrorists and turn them over to the IDF.
That is the one way to know they are sincere.
If they harbor and protect terrorists, they are complicit in terrorism.
Do these two morons actually believe the rubbish they’re spewing?