There is no way Team DeSantis is prepared to go toe-to-toe with Gavin Newsom. As much as I just cannot stand the California governor, he has a firm grasp of Machiavellian manipulation in politics.
In this soundbite, Newsom is asked about Ron DeSantis and the special debate between the Florida and California governors as organized by Sean Hannity. Newsom’s response is epic level trolling. Judging by the response from Newsom, he also knows a nomination is likely at the DNC convention in Chicago. WATCH:
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Newsom cannot win. CA is an anchor.
This is all a pathetic sideshow; a Tinsel Town inspired cartoon.
Newsom lowering his renewable pike against a failing windmill.
IMESHO, it is easy to see that Nuisance and Nanzi are related. Who are the people that vote for those clowns???
The people behind the scenes that know lazy Americans that prefer to stay home and complain about the government than go out and actually vote, which is why they have such a large number pool for use in the STEAL.
Banality of Evil.
don’t forget all the fake and dead voters they’ve added to the pool, to use when they need massive fraud
They do that because those lazy people NOT voting give them consent to use their “voice” of complacency.
The banality of evil.
The ones who haven’t or can’t migrate!
Dominion
Chad, did you say vote? I am under the impression that selection works allot differently. Who are the people that select for those clowns?
Soro’s has a ton of money invested in Newsom. His aunt Nancy Pelosi isn’t going anywhere until Newsom is in office.
No, Nanzi Piglousi is not Damien’s aunt. Newscum’s aunt Barbara was married to Paul Pelosi’s brother Ron for a time and they divorced in the late 1970s. The distant familial relationship is one hell of a stretch.
“CA is an anchor”
Only to Normies.
He doesn’t have to win. He has to “win.” Just like Biden “won.”
You are so mistaken.
He’s a snake.
I was a 40 year resident of CA and never in my wildest nightmares, did I ever think the Mayor who presided over the biggest downfall of such a beautiful city like San Francisco become the friggin Governor of the State. There are a lot of messed up people in CA who voted for this chooch but to be honest, I don’t have a lot of faith in the voting system. So who knows if he was truly elected by a majority of the people or if he was “installed” like the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania. I’ve lost all faith in our election system……..
Nothing would shock me and having this snake installed as the next President is right up there.
In Santa Cruz County the votes cast were approximately 140% of the County population.
He was installed.
Isn’t he kin to pelosi?
the “machine” used to put Biden in office is still up and running. This planet is under control of fraudulent elections, it’s why it’s not addressed.
Eventually all believers leave this place and the world gets to taste hell, as they so desire. Leave as in die or taken. It’s bad now can you imagine?
Sheet, never underestimate the stupidity of democrat voters. Exhibit A, Commiformia. Exhibity B, Brandon the Senile.
How long will it take before the man/child responds to American psycho?
Newsom will win because we don’t count the votes.
This will be Nancy’s shadow presidency.
He looks like Jim Carey’s brother.
I was thinking more along the lines of The Joker myself.
Wow. See? Just in the last few comments, the Joker twice, Jim Carry’s brother, American Psycho…there’s just something about that face, isn’t there?
Rictor Mortis
The DNC goal is to weaken DeSantis at every opportunity. Not because they think he is the next president, they simply want to plant doubt in the mind of Floridians. Ridicule him. Remove Desantis and turn Florida Gov blue is enormous. Next best thing to the Presidency. IMHO.
Good point. Getting the steal entrenched in Florida is key to Communist strategy. An impotent RDS goes a long way toward that goal.
DeSantis doesn’t really need any outside help in that regard.
He makes my skin crawl….
He looks like someone who Hollywood would cast in the role of Lucifer.
And then top it all off (crown it?) with Lucifer…
Sundance: “There is no way Team DeSantis is prepared to go toe-to-toe with Gavin Newsom. As much as I just cannot stand the California governor, he has a firm grasp of Machiavellian manipulation in politics.”
Gavin Newsom has all the attributes of what Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams identifies as a master persuader.
This is one of several reasons why the puppeteers behind the scenes are looking for Newsom to replace Biden on the ticket when the time is ripe.
Barack Obama and Donald Trump are both master persuaders — someone who can connect with an audience and put their message across quickly and effectively. Gavin Newsom possesses similar master persuader abilities.
Among the circle of people around me at work, I’ve already seen Gavin Newsom’s ability to influence left-leaning independents with his master persuader communication style.
These independents are ignoring the fact that Gavin Newsom’s policies will be as bad or worse than Joe Biden’s and Barack Obama’s if he becomes president.
Millions of the true blue Democratic Party faithful all across the nation will vote for Gavin Newsom if he is the eventual nominee, and will do so with considerable enthusiasm.
Combine the true blue Democratic vote with that of left-leaning independents who are ignoring Newsom’s actual policies and he has enough ballots to come within striking distance of victory.
Massive election fraud will do the rest if the Trump campaign doesn’t have a well-funded and well-coordinated strategy and plan to counter it.
It’s been said by several MAGA-leaning pundits that Trump’s lead over Biden is so large that election fraud can’t overcome it.
Not hardly. The Democrats easily generated at least 10 million fraudulent ballots in 2020. They can generate 20 million in 2024 and get away with it if serious work doesn’t start right now, today, in working on a nationally-coordinated anti-fraud strategy and plan.
Notice that I’ve said that the Trump campaign has to have a well-funded and well-coordinated anti-fraud strategy.
Like so much else in the 2024 election cycle, MAGA Republicans are largely on their own to do what has to be done to put Donald Trump back in the White House.
I agree. To the left, Newsome will be such a yuge improvement over Brandon on basic functioning alone that they will be enthusiastic about him.
FPCHmom: “I agree. To the left, Newsome will be such a yuge improvement over Brandon on basic functioning alone that they will be enthusiastic about him.”
The Biden / Harris team was perfect for their assigned role in the 2020 election, to promote a psyops illusion that they were easily beaten, while at the same time massive election fraud would guarantee their certain win.
The situation is different in 2024. The Biden/Harris team has been revealed for what they actually are.
What is needed in the 2024 cycle is someone who can exude an aura of credibility in ways which convince the true blue Democratic Party base, plus left-leaning independents, to vote in enough numbers to put the Democrat’s nominee within striking distance of victory.
Another round of massive election fraud, plus a lack of anti-fraud countering action on the part of the Trump campaign, can combine with Newsom acting in the role of a better-than-Biden candidate to keep a Democrat in the White House in 2025.
He smells like the potential Antichrist
Well, that DOES top it all off…
Maybe then he can *persuade* someone to clean up his Streets of California. I know nothing about running a campaign – but running videos of dirty tent cities in LA – SF – Venus beach, et al – might *dissuade* American voters.
A number of Treepers posting on this thread have offered believable explanations for why Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis will be having this debate. All of these opinions have a basis in fact to one extent or another.
My own opinion is that in the course of the debate, Gavin Newsom and the puppetmasters who control him from behind the scenes will label Ron DeSantis as a MAGA wolf in sheep’s clothing and will attack him relentlessly on that basis.
Newsom will maneuver DeSantis into the position where DeSantis will be acting, for all practical purposes, as a MAGA stand-in for Donald Trump in some future Trump-Newsom debate.
The puppeteers will use Newsom’s performance in the debate as a means of establishing his credibility as an alternative to Biden for the 2024 nomination; as a means for convincing the true blue Democratic Party voter base that Donald Trump can be beaten; and for guaging the response of left leaning independents to Newsom’s ‘master persuader’ communications style.
So why would desantis do this? He’s not this dumb…
Why are you assuming that they are in different clubs? What if they have the same UniParty goal, and this is all a nice show for the rubes?
See my comment below. As ‘PeanutButter’ says, it is completely possible that the debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis is part of a nice show put on by the Uniparty for the rubes. IMHO, the true objective of the debate might be to assess how well Gavin Newsom can perform as a Uniparty replacement for Joe Biden in 2024.
you sure about that?
Actually, he is. At least in the political sense. DePantsless is desperate. And desperation yields very quickly to stupidity. The fact that this was hatched several months ago also points to how he believes a Presidential campaign can be run just like a gubernatorial campaign.
So yeah, he’s that dumb. Pretty much supports everything California FlyBoy was saying. Truth is truth no matter where it comes from. And Pretty Boy was speaking a whole lotta truth right there.
Expect the MSM to make the push for Newsome over Biden after the debate. Messaging will be almost verbatim from multiple talking heads.
It’s one of the reasons that a key part of the Devolution theory is that is it not Joe Biden today in the White House. If a “Joe Biden” is there playing a part to the bitter end, that person is blocking the Dems from offering a manipulative p.o.s. like Newsome or anyone chosen by the Left as the candidate. It also allows perfect control of “Joe Biden,” too.
The sneaky ba stards, pulling a surprise like this…clever, clever! But the right earlobe gives it all away. Simple photo comparisons with Sen. Biden in the ’90s with today was a deliberate slip-up by the Devolution architects. “Hide it in plain sight” works every time.
I can’t wait until today’s history is written in the late 2030s. It will be fascinating!
How fascinating it will be depends upon who will be writing the history in the late 2030’s.
This will be an excellent litmus test. If we start seeing all the media mouthpieces using the same wording for their post-debate analysis we will have confirmation of their intentions.
Excellent analysis on all counts! As a matter of fact, the discussion below was inspired by the undeniable logic of your astute comments.
Most of us have heard the medical term “walking pneumonia,” well, recent events in the US are very much akin to what could be described as an invasion and overthrow of a constitutional US government conducted in slow, yet methodical motion.
The strategies employed, whether it’s J6, election 2020, Ukraine, indictment timetables, etc., are so rigidly logical, so carefully organized so as to produce a result that is impregnable to adverse threats, either tactically or politically, that the only thing that could create such a plan are (1) an ensconced, vertical, fanatical command and control structure that enforces its dictates with extreme punitive measures, and (2) that relies exclusively on AI programs that are adhered to maniacally.
The Gavin Newsom issue under discussion is so utterly a result of the aforementioned. It shows an assiduous focus on intermediate steps toward an ultimate goal, one that would not be so obvious to the plodding, wavering moods of homo sapiens, but that resulted from a rigid, programmatic system geared to producing only logical sequences.
Lastly, my supposition is that these systems are top secret and only available to the usurpers holding the levers of power, and I don’t know how you can overcome that!
The ensconced, vertical structure of the worldwide wokesters would take 50 years to assemble under a Republican flag.
Needless to say, we don’t have the time for that!
Here’s the important question: can RD do some damaged to Slick Gavin?
Nail him on …
– homelessness
– open border
– thousands of Fentanyl deaths
– rampant graffiti & crime
– Mexican gangs (open border)
– not solving ANY of California’s problems – unfunded pensions, open border, companies fleeing, etc.
That’s not RDS’ role in this debate.
AlabamaMan: “That’s not RDS’ role in this debate.”
Let’s assume for purposes of discussion that what Perot Conservative has outlined is in fact RDS’ assigned role in the debate. Let’s assume further that Gavin Newsom will maneuver DeSantis into a position where RDS has no other choice but to defend basic MAGA principles if he is to maintain the illusion that he is credible as the 2024 Republican nominee.
This debate offers a perfect opportunity for the Uniparty puppeteers to assess how well Gavin Newsom, acting in his own role as the Uniparty’s 2024 master persuader, can counter attacks on his record as California governor, and also how well he can convince the true blue Democratic Party base, plus left-leaning independents, that he can defeat Donald Trump in 2024.
From your explanation, I am assuming that the Dems know they are losing their blue people.
FarmerRen: “From your explanation, I am assuming that the Dems know they are losing their blue people.”
The Dems are indeed losing some of their blue people. And the Dems do know it. But are enough being lost to make a significant difference?
As far as I can see personally, not enough true blues will be lost to make a real difference, assuming that Newsom’s late-breaking ride-to-the-rescue summer 2024 nomination can successfully energize enough of the still-loyal Democrat voter base to put him within striking distance of a victory in the fall of 2024.
It’s all a mathematical numbers game. For the Democrats in 2024, this equation is their formula for success:
Victory in November = Large Numbers of Legal Ballots + Enough Fraudulant Ballots to Close the Gap
Add no water storage after the draught ended, and voter fraud in CA.
Let’s add removing children from parents under the guise of “gender equity“
Absconding with children from out of state
Having Chinese bio labs in the state
Spending 1.5 billion on masks that were never delivered from China.
I could go on and on.
Ok one more: $50B+ Lost in Covid unemployment fraud.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/illegal-chinese-bio-lab-california-scandal
Florida has all the things you speak of. The buses drop folks off everyday along I-10.. Our overdose rate at last examination is higher per capita than Commiefornia, believe it or not. Plenty of graffiti, Lotsa Latin Kings and Queens.
Newsom will probably lie glibly, forcefully, and enthusiastically.
MSM will repeat all his talking points.
A significant portion of the population will become convinced that California is “The Freedom State” and a fabulous success story with a booming economy.
It would take The Donald to slice and dice through this gilded used-snake-oil salesman.
If those dopes who manipulate Mr “born on the eight day” DeSantis debate this guy then the very best question he could as is if Gavin Newsome was vaxxine injured by the bioweapon disguised as a vaxxine. There is video of Gavin showing signs of a vaxxine injury and then about a month long hiatus from his job as he was down in Mexico maybe getting treatment for Bell’s palsy. This really is the only question that really matters and there should be video of the incident for all to see.
American Psycho is right. Back when reporters actually asked real questions.
That is an old video from before 2010 , while still mayor of SF. A cocky , thin skinned pr—ck from back then , probably worse now , with a bit more media polish- but similar to NY Governor Cuomo ( attitude /personality} when he was flying high back in his NY prime time . Behind closed doors watch out for the red faced eruptions though …
Expand it and with the quality I saw Bill Clinton kicked back emphatically stating He Did NOT Have Sexual Relations With [that woman].
That is a beautiful, beautiful video.
Thanks for this! What an amazing piece of video! To see Newsome just trying to brazen it out by grinning while lying all the way through — and to see the news guy not going along with it!
Woah — and then to see the two guys at the end talking about how you can’t just go off the record in the middle (or the end) of an interview. Nice, inside look and points out how the corp. media always goes along and lets them get away w/ their lies….
Oh, yeah, like NYCJ says below, you can bet he threw a YUGE tantrum with his people after this one!
Newsom is a paper tiger. He would be easy to beat, just by plastering the airwaves with video of what’s become of California. Put the homeless encampments and black thug organized looting crews front and center, and the race is over.
SHOULD be easy to beat.
But he’s smooth, confident, absolutely shameless, and good-looking in a Patrick Bateman-y kind of way. A significant portion of the norms will unfortunately gobble up whatever he’s selling.
And he has the cheat on his side.
Except that it’s going on in every city now….yawn….business as usual. What’s new? dems would say.
I agree Sundance, but meanwhile, EVERYTHING Newsome says about DeSantis is also true about him. He’s bought the hype about himself, he’s listening to his consultants, he thinks he’s a god, etc.
Pride comes before the fall… then again, there is the whole corrupted US system of voting that can turn that axiom on it’s head.
WTF cares. Is this even worth a wit, more even LESS than wit this depraved creep New Sum “trolls” DeSantis? Sheese
First thought I had…..
Is DeSanctimonious
going to drop out of
the race before the
”debate “ on Nov. 30th?
😉😉🙄🧐
Sure, he’s slick, but I’m not sure how much buy in there will be in Michigan, Iowa, Virginia or Wisconsin. San Francisco is a literal toilet. 45% of the kids in LA do not attend school. Homeless encampments are a growth industry in Cali. Major chains are closing stores. Cops are in total retreat mode. The taxes are nuts. I doubt any of that has much appeal and the guy really has a massive aura of a used car salesman.
I guess they could rig it, but they probably need more help than last time. Hence, the need for the RINOs to pitch in and help “elect” Governor Hair Grease. As they say, It aint easy being greasy!
I agree on one point: Why is DeSantis “debating” a non-candidate?
If I were a low polling Republican, I wouldn’t debate a low performing Democrat.
Is DeSantis expecting to win over Democrat voters?
I’d put my energies into winning more Republicans.
I get it they’re gonna spin it, but what are people “really” gonna think about someone not really running debates someone else who wasn’t really running until he did and fell like a rock in the polls?
He is much more persuasive than Ron DeSantis was with his “I’m not running” schtick. I’ll give him that.
Great an interview between two irrelevants:
between someone who is not in the race at all and someone who is in the race, but trailing so far they might as well drop out.
You can only hope this is a distraction from the real “contender” they want to push in at the last minute.
It will probably be “Democrat mystery contender” vs “Elon Musk” 😀
(Unfortunately I still personally think Trump will not make it to the oval office again, because either lawsuits or if those 12 all fail then the Deep State will find some means like blow a poison dart in his butt, but I will be back to eat my words if Trump pulls it off!)
I’m with you, Sundance. Newsom is loathsome, but he knows the politics of the situation and I think he’s exactly right when he says Puddin’ regrets running.
This is an odd place for PTrump to be in. PTrump has to know that Newsom is a corrupt mafia kingpin and “not a nice guy”…..Lets not forget the billion dollars Newsom stole from taxpayers that he sent to China for masks which we never got and he refuses to account for nor address it. Guilfoyle states and perhaps jokes that the race will be between her ex and her father in law. How fun (sarc)
Kimberly Guilfoyle Says Her Ex Gavin Newsom Will Run for President (businessinsider.com)
Pretty pathetic to debate a man who finds the fact you’re doing it hilarious.
Wondering why the debate. I believe it was because they were promised that President Trump would be taken out of the none race. So how can this be promised is the question for me. Criminal disqualification by the cabal or maybe a JFK treatment.
Raspy voice, caked in sweat. Newsom looks and sounds double-vaxed and boostered.
Alarmed Republicans are preparing to draft Glenn Youngkin 👈
(link from CFP)
With a little research, you will find it’s much worse.
Glenn Youngkin to Retire as Co-CEO after 25 years; Kewsong Lee Named Sole CEO of The Carlyle Group
https://www.carlyle.com/media-room/news-release-archive/youngkin-lee-2020-ceo
David Rubenstein, co-founder of Carlyle Group.
David Rubenstein is connected to the CCP.
Carlyle Group is connected to Bush.
Newsom is utterly revolting. I can’t watch him. Bad Cattitude has a rather convincing argument that he is likely to win in 2024–if we have an election.
you must not be familiar with the local protest following the Steal this time
Gavin Newsome looks like he has a drug problem. Very pale and sweating for no apparent reason. The interviewer looked comfortable. He just looks like he’s in that culture.
What were Gov. Brian Kemp, Gov. Gavin Newsom and Gov. Ron DeSantis promised to have a meaningless Presidential debate? Do they expect something to happen?
Sea Island Cries Uncle? – GA Governor Brian Kemp Says He Will Support Donald Trump if GOP Nominee
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/09/24/sea-island-cries-uncle-ga-governor-brian-kemp-says-he-will-support-donald-trump-if-gop-nominee/
Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis set up Hannity debate.
Ron DeSantis and California Gov. Gavin Newsom will debate on November 30 at a Georgia location.
Sweaty bugger, innit?
These two fricking jabronis deserve each other!!! 😵💫🫣🤥😖🤡
The Rock says…
Yep, Newsom’s right on.
Plus, Newsom is gonna be way snaky to debate (I wouldn’t wanna, and I was on my HS debate team 🙂
For some reason, that first picture, on the original page there, seems to scream for “joker” make-up…dunno if it’s the hairstyle, with the widow’s peak and all or the face shape or what, but…doesn’t it?
Newsom thinks he is the white Obama, the slick speech-giver who can charm Dem voters into overlooking his actual record.
Overlook Damien’s Obozo – type “gift” at your own peril.