An interesting juxtaposition of politics, culture and commercial pressure to comply with a specific brand of social acceptances permeates the discussion between pundit Tucker Carlson and actor-musician Ice Cube during a drive through Los Angeles. {Direct Rumble Link}
Not a lover of the hip hop culture in general but Ice Cube seems like a sensible dudes dude and I share his dislike of direct orders coming from idiots .
re: “seems like a sensible dudes dude and I share his dislike of direct orders coming from idiots .”
Amen.
I hate being in (inside) some idiot’s OODA loop too. (OODA: observe–orient–decide–act)
Ice Ice Baby?
Ice-T?
Iceman?
I.C.E.?
How about Ice Free?
Ha ha
Ice Cube: NWA
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ice-Cube
This will help you remember
LOL that’s awesome 😂
….tea party…lolol
Lol
Ice-T Drops the Mic on Gun Rights, the Second Amendment! – YouTube
I am posting this clip of Ice-T explaining gun rights to a British interviewer from years ago.
He has a similar line of thinking as Ice Cube.
The pitcher picture is Ice-T.
The cubes are Ice-Cube.
Different people.
Exactly. T is the tea; Cube is the cubes. And for some reason Mister T is the tea bag.
Yup, here’s a clip of Ice T doing a lemonade commercial (funny stuff):
Ice Cube is in the Ride Along movie with Kevin Hart. Very funny.
They also do a “Ride Along” with Conan O’Brien when he’s teaching one of his interns how to drive. Also very funny but somewhat off color humor.
Not posting that clip here because it’s somewhat profane but you can search easy enough.
He was in the Barber Shop movies. Great flics!
They are!
Very independent thinking.
re: “Ice Ice Baby?”
That was “Vanilla Ice” white ice –
Straight Outa Donktum.
Please please please! Black people…
If you choose to overdose on drugs do it at home so an innocent (white) cop doesn’t go to prison for happening to being there when you expire post your criminal activities.
P.S.-Don’t hoop drugs man…can’t control the dose if the bag rips.
What a non sequitur.
‘Splain?
Your comment has nothing to do with this post. At all.
That’s what a non sequitur is. Something totally out of left field, completely unconnected to the conversation.
…it does now
….check George Floyd 2019 Arrest video…he ‘hooped’….(stuck them up his butt)…some drugs…but the volume was just too much….the video shows everything clearly and it was a LOT of merchandise….then he went to crying for his mama (wife)…just exactly like he did in the Chauvin incident but with a different cop….he was treated at a local hospital for drug overdose and charges were eventually dropped….
You say it isn’t pertinent…I say it is….the biggest racial explosion in 49+ years….we know what that interview was really about….
And it all boils down to one thing….
Chauvin
Wha interview are you talking about, because it sure as hell wasn’t this one.
This one is about bought off politicians who do nothing to help people and corporate elites talking smack and keeping everyone else down and disenfranchised.
Is Kent deranged? Frankly, his remarks are not only off topic — but off the wall. My response is “Say, what!?!”
Obsessed with Chauvin at a minimum. Could be more.
Changing is innocent…call it obsession if you wish but an innocent man is in prison because GF overdosed..
???
Spell check….arrgh…Chauvin is innocent
Watch the 2019 George Floyd arrest video.
Watch the 2019 arrest video…GF clowned and cried and begged because he did not want to go back to prison…can’t blame him for that and he acted exactly the same way the day he died but Derek Chauvin did not murder George Floyd.
That is fact not media drama…
It isn’t derangement it is fact…
Derek Chauvin did not overdose Floyd…
Floyd overdosed himself and an innocent man has been wrongly imprisoned for it…
If you want to call derangement it is Chauvins imprisonment which is deranged….
That’s as bad as it gets…convicted by media with law enforcement participation….
What have we become?
Which what Ice Cube last full length solo album, “Everything’s Corrupt,” is all about. I’ve been listening to Cube since he was with NWA and I was 11. Cube’s songs, even the old ones, hint at the disparity he talks about in this interview.
Cube is just older and wiser and can express it better.
Pretty sure I saw a clip of George Floyd in the interview. It may not have been the focus but it’s at least somewhat relevant.
Did you watch the 2019 George Floyd arrest video or did you just…
Reply as you did?
No. It doesn’t!
And quite frankly, it’s out of line.
It is not out of line…I offered evidence of G F acting a fool and almost dying trying to avoid a prison sentence and you ignore it…
Chauvin DID NOT murder GF….Floyd overdosed himself…
What does it mean “… Rickrolled by Jesus”? Isn’t “Rickrolled” being the victims of a bait and switch? Confused …
Every line in the chorus of Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley can be backed up with a scriptural reference to Christ.
That’s what it means.
Good to know. Since I’m a geezer all I have to do now is figure out who Rick Astley is, LOL!
My wife of course is younger and knew right away who he is and even sang some lines from “Never Gonna Give You Up” – so there’s that.
Thankfully no whites took those opioids and made the first responders come….ummm…bueller
Won’t let me say what I wanted to but lent your commentary could be better.
WTF does this have to do with anything?
Nothing but race ranting.
Or false flag troller trying to get thumbs ups for saying, and I’m paraphrasing, blacks are always hiding drugs up their wazoo in case a white cop searches them during one of the many times during the day they will break the law
There’s a lot of people all colors, cultures, orientations that shove stuff up there a$$, including drugs for a dif high, suppositories to $hit, … but that’s not what is being said here
Race ranting? Floyd overdosed….Chauvin could have been in Cancun and Floyd would have killed himself…
Derek Chauvin is innocent.
Have we sunk this low?
Do not despair.
It’s always darkest right before it goes pitch black.
😂
No. We have not “sunk this low.”
As Sundance has said repeatedly….
Quote:
“….remember there is no such thing as misinformation, disinformation or malinformation; there is only information. That information may take the form of truth or lies. Use your God given skills to decipher the difference, and when in doubt pause and pray for assistance and clarity.
It’s going to be ugly.
It is likely to be uncomfortable.
It is certain to be intense, gritty, bloody, fierce and filled with adrenaline.
2024 is MAGA burning the ships behind us. This one is for all the marbles. This is not a place where tepid half-measures and gentlemanly pastels will suffice. Get right with God, put on the armor, absorb the focus of fighting like the third monkey on the ramp to Noah’s ark, and get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Our ally is anyone who stands beside us, right now. Our enemy is anyone who doesn’t.
The new sons and daughters of the revolution are going to look completely different. The Green Dragon Tavern may be a church, a picnic table or a tailgate. The assembly is not focused on the labels of the assembled. We do not have time for that. The mission is the purpose. The fight is wherever it surfaces.
Delicate sensibilities must be dispatched like a feather in a hurricane.”
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Ice Cube made some very important and poignant remarks about COVID and the clot shot. Remarks that are reflective of the culture and society Ice Cube comes from.
You are WAY off base to suggest CTH has “sunk low” to highlight this interview. These are precisely the “delicate sensibilities” we will be dispensing with.
Especially when on point like Cube was in this interview.
I used rap to shut up a liberal squeaker. They were ranting and raving about how blacks are so oppressed in the 2020’s. Said it’s so much worse and it’s crazy…..the issues that have surfaces. The conversation was more nuanced and she was very focused on how all this stuff is new to the black community and it’s white privilege that has done it.
I asked, because she was white, “White privilege? So, you think we get things because we are white?” She said it’s not that simple. I chuckled and said “Sure but you know what is?” She looked puzzled….I said “You giving up your BMW, your nice house, and your kids college money. It’s only privilege so as soon as you give it away, poof, it comes back.” She didn’t like that responses.
I then said something along the lines “oh, and these are new problems? The problems black’s face? Young mothers, drugs, and fatherless homes? High crime neighborhoods?” She said “yes.”
So I played for her Tupac Shakur’s hit from the early 90’s called “Brenda’s Got a Baby.” She looked shocked….I said, swap fentanyl for crack and you would think this song was just written. Not 30 plus years ago by a man, now dead since 1997.
Here’s the video (made for MTV so edited for language):
I’m waiting for Tucker Carlson to interview Englebert Humperdink.
What difference does it make, in reality, who Tucker Carlson interviews?
Doesn’t make a bit of difference in how I live my life or what I believe.
I can watch it … OR…NOT.
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Free speech …👍👍
🇺🇸💪😀👍
Julian Assange, Edward Snowden …
I am not a follower of “Ice Cube” or other “Hip-Hop” artists, however, I do agree with what I heard on this video.
I heard common sense, truth about the government involvement in neighborhoods and the ultimate destruction.
No opinion coming from me on Tucker or his motives. He brought a new perspective to our cultural conversation.
With that thought, I will not be negative or presumptive.
That’s all.
Stay Frosty!
I’m tempted to mention TC interview with Adrew Tate. But I won’t.
Not a fan, but found I agreed with much of what he said in the Tucker interview.
Here’s some brief words of wisdom Re. taking the time to hear what someone has to say- even if you don’t particularly like or agree with them.
“Cowboy reacts to Andrew Tate”
Another video where I find the music adds nothing but then I’m very ADD and distracted is my middle name 😉
The sentiment is dead on.
“If the truth hurts…say ouch!”
Love that!
Don’t know if you’ve ever turned off comments for a post, SD, but I would completely understand if you did.
Kudos to Tucker and Ice Cube for doing this. Much of Cube’s fan base will have the same level of knee-jerk vitriol for this video as folks on our “side” do.
All I can do is shake my head and sigh because it’s a shame when people will not see.
Comments are 99% the same at TGP. Would also be at Ace’s.
“Ice Who?”
“I hate cRap!”
And their sites?
“F Tucker!”
“Sellout talking with a Nazi!”
It’s a shame when people will not see. Thankfully, a good five percent of both “sides” actually will. So that’s something. A start, I guess.
Good points.
Have an open mind. You’re probably not going to agree with anyone 100% but if you can find enough common ground, especially on the biggest issues, the quicker we can get this country back on track.
I don’t agree with Trump on everything but I still support him 100% over anyone else. It’s okay to be critical and disagree but be constructive.
People will not WANT to know. Which is why they did not get out of that car.
Great comment. These people with their idiotic comments. Ice cube has accomplished more than every one of them through hard work. Maybe thats why they try to dismiss him as a “rapper thug” or some similarly lazy comments. Expected more from the readers of a site like this.
Who said he was a thug?
Bro most of us aren’t bigots
Yeah.
I was stunningly shocked at how shallow, divisive, deflective and unjustly biased a lot of the comments are.
For those commenters that can’t or don’t see that we all have a common enemy that has attacked different groups different ways and put them against each other over decades is pretty damn shallow and tells me a lot about their intelligence level.
It is Elites and their government lackeys vs We the People!
Always has been.
Agreed. The “common enemy” is the common thread.
We have ALL been under attack by this common enemy. While we may not have everything in common with our fellow citizens, that is one thing we do have in common.
People are waking up and realizing this common thread and common bond we share.
Rejoice and be glad.
I know some people who are not rejoicing that We the People are waking up.
May we sing in perfect harmony!
LA Times letters are full of that, mostly biased in one direction. Don’t want contrary views published else people might notice.
Amen.
The only people saying such thing are ignorant and don’t know Cube or his music. Those of us who know of Cube and listen to his music are not surprised by this interview at all.
Trump is the white Obama, we all want “hope and change” Obama did nothing for anyone much less the blacks. Trump can do nothing if it’s not in the agenda the one issue is…..is trump part of the agenda as Obama was/is.
They want war, excuses to kill, excuses to control, like cut down the trees for better protection. We have been brainwashed into allowing all this, it’s not our nature. Freedom is our nature, to think free of violence and hate.
Your glasses on backwards…
Trump is nothing like Obama. You are blind.
re: “Trump is the white Obama”
Trying to look for parallels, going back starting at childhood … nope, not finding many/any.
MAGA. What was Obama’s catch phrase? “We are the one’s we’ve been waiting for”… “They bring a knife, we bring a …”
Nope.
Apparently Mr. Cube is unaware that George Floyd died of a drug overdose, and was not murdered by Officer Chauvin.
This is apparent?
Is Ice Cube’s lack of awareness about Floyd’s overdose evident in this video? I just watched again, and didn’t hear Cube say anything about Floyd at all. Literally nothing.
Literally speaking you are correct but I think they danced a bit…
Concerning Floyd directly, he did die from an overdose and an innocent man is in prison due to media inflammation and political corruption of the representation of the events and his own activities prior to his self-inflicted death…
Chauvin is innocent.
Chauvin was a bad cop and had it coming. He was far from innocent. But I agree he got a bad deal due to the timing and politics. Sucks but hey, if you’re part of a major problem that is costing lives, don’t be surprised when you get scapegoated. We need smarter cops. Less militarization. Less fed funding and influence. Less shooting and kneeling and suspecting everyone is out to kill the poor cop everyday. Swat teams over the dumbest things need to stop. Cops need more accountability. The public should not be the enemy.
We don’t need “smarter cops.” We need fewer perps. Chauvin is innocent.
First, pushing RFK Jr incessantly. Now, trying to stoke the Chauvin off topic distraction…Noted.
Pop of a cop here and both he and I agree. The quality of cop and his training is essential to good policing – too much macho SWAT, door kickers, and militarization, inadequate training, poor pay (in some places), and liberals taking over command.
Gan your comment is spot on. Chauvin may be innocent regarding Floyd. But as you point out he has a long history of being a dirty cop. As were many that he surrounded himself. And correct, if you are part of a major problem that is costing lives- it shouldn’t be a surprise that eventually one of them would be scapegoated.
The sad part:
If Mr. Floyd was appropriately punished for his previous crimes. He’d still be here. If the police force held accountable bad cops- Chauvin wouldn’t of been on the force to be scapegoated. Again the system fails because they don’t hold people appropriately accountable.
No they didn’t. You’re just trying to inject that and it’s obvious.
No, he did not say anything about Floyd in this video. or did I say so.
But this interview does not comprise all of Cube’s views of his opinions. And from reading his comments on Floyd’s death it is clear he unequivicslly accepted the msm version of events, and expressed a lot of anger against the police, who were blameless.
So my point is, yes he says things that sound reasonable in this segment, and seems an astute observer, but he is easily manipulated by the media, and passes this on to his followers.
You’re guessing, then, what Ice Cube believes today, about that one issue.
Understood, but his opinion on the cause of George Floyd’s death has absolutely nothing to do with this interview, in any way, or with Sundance’s post.
I notice that Cube had little to say about Tyree Nichols death at the hands of black, Memphis police officers. In the one interview I saw, he just called it unacceptable. Did not even refer to it as murder. No calls for violence, as with Floyd. No anger expressed. No outrage. How come? Have a theory why this is?
As to what Cube believes today about Floyd’s death, well since he has not admitted or acknowledged his obvious error, then I say he either 1) still believes Floyd was murdered, or 2) he knows he was wrong but fears the reaction from his followers if he admits it.
And again, if you think that this interview comprises the totality of Cube’s beliefs, then you are wrong. And further, if you think that my opinions (or anyones) on any topic must be confined to the boundaries that you think appropriate, then you are yet more wrong.
There is a second interview coming out, this time, from Ice Cube’s studio. We will hear more of his beliefs…
I’m betting it’s #2. No matter who we’re hearing, even someone as “real” as Ice Cube it all comes back to money. In that way he’s no different than the politicos he criticizes.
Right. Money isn’t the answer to the Democrat cities. Nothing could be more obvious.
We have someone who can read other people’s minds and knows their intents.
All hail!
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Maybe you should review.
Taq is correct about that.
Chauvin is a punk
Ok
Perhaos, but I don’t blame him. The media brainwashing has been going full steam ever since it happened.
Respect to Cube…fine line to walk…truth or narrative…
He sees the crabs in the bucket.
Respect not to be confused with worship.
Geez, major societal realignment continues. Now Ice Cube, Tucker and I are on the same anti-genetic engineering team. Strange times. “You get in trouble because it IS the truth.” Write that one down.
Tucker Carlson said that in another video: you don’t get in trouble for lying. You get in trouble for telling the truth.
Cube has always been republican
re: “Strange times. “You get in trouble because it IS the truth.” Write that one down.”
Ya … like full-blown, take a vow of poverty Mother Theresa level ‘trvth’.
Maybe that was the POINT of the interview. The pressure on both of them, black and white, to take the jabs to keep their jobs was immense. Tucker did not lose money then, but he lost money later giving RFK a platform to talk about jabs.
The medical establishment is still pushing jabs and they are converting childhood vaccines to mRNA as fast as they can. People are still being hurt by this poison, many of them children, who will have to be taken care of for life.
Just saw you posted this. Put the twit on the Prez Open.
Love the last line of the interview. (!)
If Carlson is hurting this bad for people to interview, maybe one of the Manson groupies is still around?
Ice Cube is famous, and widely respected among the very people we need to reach with a truthful message.
I believe one of his ‘girls’, Leslie Van Houten, was just paroled less than 2 weeks ago……
Yes. And I hope the Republicans will hammer him mercilessly for it should he be fool enough to try and run for President.
Yes, one of Manson’s girls after 50 years in prison. Ugh.
Ice Cube is famous and is well known for his work on Law and Order, not just as a musician.
Really? You really want to compare the two?
What is wrong with the interview? He’s trying to reach an audience that he never would. Sometimes a mustard seed planted grows into a field.
Truth is all there is.
Transparent intentions.
I worked California Corrections for 20+ years. During that time I interacted with several black officers. NOT ONE of those officers lived in an all black neighborhood. Why? As quoted to me, they would not live nor would they subject their families to the rot that is urban black culture……….
Exactly. But most here don’t understand that because their knowledge of black culture was gained from watching sitcoms on television and they’re just being “fair and just” and stuff.
I lived there. They don’t want to hear “a truthful message”, they want you dead.
And some of us grew up in the black community, with that culture all around us.
You presume too much.
You’re partly right: *most* don’t want truth, but all need it, and some will be receptive to it, and through it will find their way out of the crab bucket.
Should Tucker only interview MAGA people, and preach to the choir exclusively? Or should he try to reach even more people, like those who respect Ice Cube’s opinion?
Agree.
It appears we have some trying to ‘deflect’ from Carlson’s attempt to bring Unity & Inclusion and Ice Cube’s subtle exposure of We all have a common ‘enemy’ trying to rule us all and driving that divide between different races and culture behind the scenes.
I, for one, got IT!
I though Ice Cube was spot on and yet carefully cryptic for those who have ‘ears to hear.’
It would seem we have some here trying to stoke racial animosity amongst ourselves or we MAGA people of different backgrounds and attempting to paint CTH as a bunch of insensitive racists to others who may visit. And a lot of those making those comments regarding this post don’t really seem to be regular or even frequent commenters.
I would go so far as to say some of those who are ‘presuming’ are doing anything but that. As in intentional.
Things that make you go 🤔!
Stick with MAGA. You will be able to discern between the ‘real deal,’ influencers and infiltrators.
MAGA welcomes all who believe in their ideals. America First! Main St over Wall Street!
Fight the power! And We know who they are and where they are!
Bingo BK.
I feel a disturbance in the Force.
Old white guy here. Grew up in Jim Crow era in Arkansas. Wasn’t raised to be a bigot but got pretty bigoted serving 4 years Navy during Vietnam. Still never was over the top if you know what I mean.
Got married to a Southern Calif beach girl in ‘87 and became a slave of Jesus Christ in ‘89. My Lord taught me right quick that bigotry is not acceptable in His Kingdom and I believed Him by the Holy Spirit.
Lots of black brothers and sisters in my very conservative Presbyterian church. We love each other. I’d die for them and they for me. Christ’s power to regenerate a man is irresistible and I thank Him for it – so does my black Christian family.
The only cure to bigotry and racism, indeed, the only cure for our nation is to bend the knee to King Jesus – that’s it, end of story.
TY BK
I lived in a very diverse neighborhood in Long Beach for many years. Still consider it my home town even after being gone for a long time. You knew who you could trust and who you couldn’t and it wasn’t always decided by race.
If we’re ever going to make any progress in healing race relations, turning off the TV is paramount, and just as important is taking our kids OUT of public schools.
Getting back to Jesus counts too.
Same here from Southside Atlanta.
Groups mixed based on moral outlook (not necessarily legal).
Got along great. We still keep in touch.
Great video!
Yes, it is.
Triple XXX State of the Union
Commments from the peanut gallery are a little disappointing so far.
These are exactly the kinds of conversations we should be seeing. They help to demystify the perceived “opponent.” This is a coming together of differnt backgrounds and focusing on things we all have in common, and for the common good.
Didn’t Jason Aldean just put out a song about this that we’ve all been championing?
Excellent comment.
But but but…. The gov needs divisiveness
I have followed Ice Cube politically for years, and while I don’t agree with some of his solutions because many are socialist or redistributive, I can agree on all of the problems. He is very informed, intelligent, practical and still well connected to the ghetto. He is always worth a listen anytime he talks politics.
I had NWA albums memorized in the 90s.
I’m glad we both lived to tell about it, and that we both grew. It could have gone either way.
Me too…he’s worth a listen…and he is closer to my age which is to say…old guy…
Big plus
It’s all about being black 24/7
High school grad or dropout? Can’t tell?
Successful rapper, successful actor, or community leader? Can’t tell?
Joe Joe even posted the bio. Go check it out.
It even mentions a degree in architectural drafting.
Duh. Maybe that’s because he is black. Aren’t you about being white 24/7?
Why does he think people should give a certain race money? He needs a talking to from Ben Carson’s mom. Like she told her son, “ you have a brain don’t you? Well why don’t you use it?”
Simply: because BLM said they were going to.
He’s right — they lied. Whether or not this idea was a good one he did not address. That they straight-up lied and took the money and ran is his point, and nothing else.
The Royal Family who sold blacks into slavery in Africa are still…Royal…and family….and…they ain’t white!
Juz sayin’
And it’s good that he’s pointing it out. He can get away with it, and it needs to be said.
I think a lot of our black brothers and sisters have realized or are realizing that BLM was an elite communist scam to solicit funds for ‘their’ real cause and provoke racial tensions in one stroke.
A straight up question for Ice…Tucker too…. on a separate que…
What about George Floyd?
Did Derrick Chauvin kill George Floyd?
Sundance?
Did Floyd OD or was he murdered?
Does the Truth hurt or is it the Lie that hurts?
I don’t know how long you’ve been here at the Treehouse, but literally everyone here, including Sundance, knows that Floyd wasn’t murdered.
Every single regular reader and commenter here not only knows this, but has studied the fine, granular details of that case over and above anyone in the media, and even more than the jury and both legal teams — which may seem like a bold claim, but if you only knew.
It’s kinda what we do here.
Been around for a long while….never noticed your ‘handle’….so…greetings….
And…Free Chauvin
I took a commenting break for about two years, but have been here since February of 2012.
That was when this community knew more details about Trayvon Martin and that whole case than anyone in the entire courthouse, or the country.
That’s also no exaggeration.
Jessica.
Indeed. I harbor a deep hatred for most of Panola County’s people to this day.
I’m not proud of that, but yeah.
Huh?
I came in 2011 – what was your name back then? Mine was granite.
Probably either “Taqiyyologist” or “Taqiyyotomist”.
Years ago I thought it was a clever way to say I either studied taqiyya or surgically removed it.
Changed to this recently, because it only confused people. New one confuses people slightly less. 😁
Stop deflecting. This is not the subject of this post. And you know it’
Sorry folks, until current urban black culture is either eliminated or radically changed, talking with ‘personalities’ about the problems within that culture is just that, talk. The problems have been known about for years, and no amount of money or resources thrown at that segment of the community has made any noticeable difference. They themselves must change that culture’s mentality which they have refused to do. I am no longer interested in ‘talk’, no matter who is conducting the interview.
The black vote for Trump in 2020 broke records, by a long shot.
Talking with each and every one of them did that.
Discussing issues with Diamond and Silk, the Hodge Twins, and even people like Ice Cube and *gasp* Kanye West did that. And hundreds more like them on YouTube, Twitter, podcasts and even television.
The Democrats lost their iron grip on the black voters — who voted for Trump instead — precisely because people kept talking, even when faced with pressure from people who said that talking is pointless.
….hoodrat is a permanent condition with very few exceptions….definitely not race limited…
What is to be done to minimize the community damage that they do?
I don’t know of a solution which isn’t….extreme ..
You just can’t get through to them…I suspect that a few hundred years ago…they were dealt with…
Nothing wrong with ye – he has serious mental health issues. Anyone mocking him is sick. Not saying you are at all, I just find the duplicity from the left and gen z to be egregious. They pretend they’re every marginalized persons advocate until they turn conservative. All the sudden they get cancelled?
You’re talking about middle class blacks, not the greater % of blacks which are urban cultured. I interacted with literally THOUSANDS of that culture’s FAILURES. They don’t give a damn about Diamond and Silk or the Hodge Twins or any others of similar ilk. They give respect to personalities like West and rappers because of their MONEY, NOT their political opinions.
You don’t think the political position gets a listen because of the money?
Unless that ‘political position’ contributed to that individual’s acclamation of wealth, no.
“The Democrats lost their iron grip on the black voters — who voted for Trump instead — precisely because people kept talking, even when faced with pressure from people who said that talking is pointless.”
Yeah? No. This focus on 13% of the population, the most dysfunctional segment of the country, is a waste of energy and resources. They are wholly owned by the PC-Progressive controllers. The numbers tell the story. It doesn’t matter how much Normals “talk” or do anything else. This bloc is not gonna turn. Of course, a small, tiny portion will follow reality. The majority of this bloc is unreachable.
2016 Presidential election voters by race:
Black
Hillary: 88%
Trump: 8%
2020 Presidential election voters by race:
Black
Biden: 87%
Trump: 12%
Whoopee!
Much better to focus efforts on reaching 67% of the population, 41% of whom voted for Biden. Many of them come to their senses as they get older. A clearer vision for the younger group might have more meaningful results.
I noticed Ice Cube talked about Obama and all of the presidents back to Carter and said nothing changed.
He did not address what happened under President Trump.
FWIW, I enjoy most all of your comments. You seem to be a reasonable man and savvy to not only the politics but the sociological challenges of black Americans – nearly all the fault of northeastern democrats and do-gooder establishment Repubs.
By the way, my wife just retired from a public school career in an upscale and very liberal beach city school district in the South Bay Area of LA County. One of the books she used teaching AP Economics was Thomas Sowell’s “Basic Economics” which I’ve read twice. She was also one of two conservative Christians at the high school.
I write this only to say “howdy” and encourage your continued contribution to the dialogue on this website which I find refreshingly cordial, for the most part.
Blessings
…not a snowballs chance…
IMHO, the “money or resources thrown to that community” was “thrown” for the purpose of creating the black ghettoes from which most would (by design, lack the skills, money, and yes, motivation to escape. All money is not “thrown” equally. Imagine for a moment if all the tax dollars spent on public housing “projects” had been invested instead in a loan program like the VA loan program.
Before LBJ “helped” blacks by corralling them into inner city ghettoes, before our historic inner cities were left to rot by white flight (leaving insufficient tax bases to provide good schools or services), blacks were steadily gaining in income and homeownership. Had the money “thrown at them” helped them buy a first home in any neighborhood and school district they chose (or could afford), many good things would have happened. We would be significantly more integrated as a nation. We would have more homeowners paying taxes and supporting schools. We would not all be dealing with the cultural rot, crime, drug culture in the degree we are now. We would have more than the Ben Carson’s of the country to act as inspiration.
We already had other homeowner assistance programs. It’s not like they hadn’t been thought up yet. So why did we “throw”cheaply built, unsustainable free and low rent apartments instead? In my opinion, we didn’t “throw money at blacks” to help them. We threw it to keep them out of our white neighborhoods and schools, out of middle and upper class jobs, away from our white offspring who we didn’t want to intermarry with them.
I am absolutely not a fan of reparations. I do not think we should “throw more money” at disastrous social experiments and expect a different outcome. I do, however, believe our mutual understanding and empathy would be improved by looking deeper than “we threw money at them, they refused to help themselves so screw them”. I believe there is a benefit to admitting our “help” was an abject failure BY DESIGN. The ruling class in white society saw the political opportunity created by policies designed to keep black voters segregated and destitute. The same (mainly Democrat) politicians are still reaping the positive rewards of their “throwing money” at black ghettoes-not just from a voting and controlling the black vote standpoint, but because a significant part of the money throw finds its way straight into their pockets. The rest of us, black and white, are reaping the negative effects of the ghettoization of our inner cities. Given the amount of animosity Democrat policies have created, I’m not sure if “throwing money” at different policies like home loan programs designed to help blacks leave “the projects” would still be good alternatives, but until we admit the racial, electoral and financial motives behind our failed “help” to date, we’re unlikely to create genuinely helpful policies to “throw money at”.
Pretty shallow.
Thomas Sowell, “I wish white people would stop helping us.”
Have you ever considered that those ‘personalities’ are exactly what is needed to change attitudes and behavior.
Do you honestly think that those that Ice Cube or any other like minded person from the black community reach out to will not at least listen to their perspectives?
Who else is going to do it? You?
And who has a better chance getting through to those from that background with street cred? You, or Ice Cube or someone like him that is like minded?
Wake up!
Ice Cube and others like him have been around for years. Have you or any others seen an actual positive change in urban black culture? I, a ‘brown’ person, nor a white, nor any other flavored folk other than blacks themselves can do what needs to be done. It has to be done at the local level with the destruction of the current urban culture. ‘Personalities’ such as Ice Cube talk about ‘fixing’ what can’t be fixed. Until black leadership and ‘personalities’ admit that the culture is rot, NOTHING will change, ESPECIALLY if one profits from exploiting that culture. When you and others have interacted with the thousands of ‘products’ of that culture, have witnessed the accelerating decline of those ‘products’ over the years in spite of all the ‘good talk and good intentions’, then by all means come talk to me about ‘waking up’.
I’ve walked that walk in my life at my prior locale. Know many blacks who think like we do now.
So, before you ‘assume’ who doesn’t know much about that culture, try again!!!
Where I grew up went from rural to suburbia to exurbia in my lifetime – majority white to 50/50 to majority black. I know exactly what I’m talking about.
Funny thing, that interview indicated that Ice Cube went back regularly to his old neighborhood trying to do what he thought was right. Isn’t that being local and blacks trying to solve their own problems? Isn’t that what you just stated and now you’re lambasting the guy? Talking about hypocrisy!
You’re correct about the ‘leadership’ though. Most of them like ours is a bunch of grifters who agitate things on to profit off of it.
What if I told you that for years, long before Trump walked down the elevator, I was one a rare bunch screaming that there was only a ‘Uniparty’ and that what Sundance describes as the Fourth Branch IC controlling everything was something I preached to anyone who would listen and that no one believed and I was ostracized constantly?
Not so much anymore. Now it’s just common knowledge. I got news – catch up!
You can’t change a whole culture overnight. The fact the man woke up about some things and is trying to be an example is a ‘start.’
If you really want to know where the decay began in earnest, try LBJ’s (Democrat) Great Society program that promoted fatherless children and welfare without working.
Or, maybe you have a better solution and can present it to black leadership. Let’s see how that works out!
If you really want to know where the decay began in earnest, try LBJ’s (Democrat) Great Society program that promoted fatherless children and welfare without working.
A truer statement would be hard to find …
One can’t change what one refuses to acknowledge is broken and beyond ‘fixing’. And who says I was ‘lamblasting’ the guy? Urban blacks don’t care about the guy’s political views unless those views contributed to his wealth/status. Whether Ice Cube truly believes what he says or not is of no consequence because he still believes the culture is redeemable when in reality it’s not. As one who grew up not far from So Central, despite all the ‘personalities’ visits, great talks, and good works, the only ‘improvement’ I’ve witnessed in the area is the influx of my brown brothers/sisters. The former football player Jim Brown used to come into a correctional facility I worked at to musically ‘jam’ with some of the inmates. Did his influence change some lives, especially amongst the black inmates? Maybe some but for most, no, as they were ‘repeat’ customers. Why not? Because Mr. Brown refused to acknowledge that urban black culture possessed nothing of positive value and felt it could be ‘changed’…..and that was in the 1990’s. So you see, since the 1990’s I have PERSONALLY witnessed over 2+ decades the degradation of that culture via the ‘quality’ of black inmates (adult and ESPECIALLY youth)entering California’s correctional system. As I said before, there is a reason NOT ONE of the dozens of black correctional officers I interacted with over the years lived in an all black community. You say you lived within that culture after a slow evolution to it. You didn’t mention how long you resided in it after it’s full development. And was it a full-on URBAN culture or did it retain some of the middle class values from it’s rural beginning? My experience is with blacks who are the product of a FULLY developed urban culture that has been in a degrading situation for decades and yes, starting with the dastardly Great Society programs. And no, it is not within my prerogative to offer solutions to the black community for a problem only they themselves can solve, firstly allowing a culture to flourish that is beyond redemption.
By “… beyond redemption …” you mean the culture and not the individuals in that culture, right?
At least I’m guessing that’s what you mean. But let’s face it a “culture” is made up of individuals; therefore, the redemption must begin individually – it cannot be otherwise.
So, I think your point is valid in that if the individuals don’t dump the culture, thus changing as individuals, there’s little hope.
Tuckers list of this, former thugs to interview is long
Andrew Tate is a pig amd Ice got where he is doing lyrics that could get people killed
Is Tucker rummaging through Rogans interviews?
You should email Tucker and tell him he should only associate with or interview people whose entire lives have been sufficiently morally pure, to your standards.
Ice seemed…cool….😎
Ok
Who’s Andrew Tate?
Thanks SD for highlighting this. Good for CTH to show how many black persons are indeed awake.
One last thing…
Derek Chauvin is innocent and should not be imprisoned…
Right that wrong.
Lead the way!
I’m certain not mad at Tucker for this new angle he’s taking by talking to more interesting people.
I just don’t get it. Why is Tucker doing some of these interviews?
Like this one or Andrew Tate for example.
Given the job that Tucker did on the treacherous Judas Pence for example, I am sure there are any number of politicians or others that would be great in the hot seat.
A: Because Tucker is trying to expand his audience and bring in people who have not normally listened to him…like people who would tune in to hear what Ice Cube has to say.
Sorry, urban blacks are not tuning into Tucker…….to believe otherwise is delusional. And those same individuals tune into what Ice Cube has to say thru his music, not an interview with some honkie.
Tucker is just trying to stay relevant.
Even negative attention is better than being ignored.
Yawn interview.
Yet you had to watch, and comment on it.
Thank you
Because he is now on Twitter which is a different market.
Those who speak and live truth aren’t politicians (rarely found) .. those who can, live and do. We will never know how many such unknowns. Politicians in the ‘hot seat’ these days do not get the full retributions they should receive without delay. Every one no matter their station, whatever ways and means, convictions in life, has positive power of influence towards change for the better while taking care of their families, friends, community and their jobs.
Matters not what part of life’s road you have traveled. True men should be honored.
Yes, Amen
“….remember there is no such thing as misinformation, disinformation or malinformation; there is only information. That information may take the form of truth or lies. Use your God given skills to decipher the difference, and when in doubt pause and pray for assistance and clarity.
It’s going to be ugly.
It is likely to be uncomfortable.
It is certain to be intense, gritty, bloody, fierce and filled with adrenaline.
2024 is MAGA burning the ships behind us. This one is for all the marbles. This is not a place where tepid half-measures and gentlemanly pastels will suffice. Get right with God, put on the armor, absorb the focus of fighting like the third monkey on the ramp to Noah’s ark, and get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Our ally is anyone who stands beside us, right now. Our enemy is anyone who doesn’t.
The new sons and daughters of the revolution are going to look completely different. The Green Dragon Tavern may be a church, a picnic table or a tailgate. The assembly is not focused on the labels of the assembled. We do not have time for that. The mission is the purpose. The fight is wherever it surfaces. Delicate sensibilities must be dispatched like a feather in a hurricane.”
–Sundance
I fear you are right. Fear because:
It’s going to be ugly.
It is likely to be uncomfortable (to say the least).
It is certain to be intense, gritty, bloody, fierce and filled with adrenaline.
Got it.
I live with my back to the Pacific Ocean, surrounded by 15 million people, most of whom would kill me for my stuff – any of it.
When the SHTF there will be no escape for me; escape where? To the desert? LOL!
So I figure to go down fighting and I’m still pretty good at it – I’ve got “practice.”
Urban prepping is not an oxymoron.
The liberals are too stupid to know how bad it will be for them …
Ice Cube refused to stay in his lane, and has been YUGELY successful.
Tucker is learning.
Both are willing to turn down economic gain in order to do the right thing, as Ice Cube mentioned re: setting the example for his kids in this interview.
A great video. Excellent post, SD.
Exactly
Always liked this cat. Great that he would sit with Carlson. Great that Carlson would sit with him. Great to know neither got jabbed. Great to find the interview on the Treehouse. It all kinda validates that I’m on the right side.
Ice Cube is awesome!
When the general public comes to understand all the deception our government has done around CoVid, race wars, Ukraine war, climate change, 9/11……..there will be hell to pay. Literally. These crimes against humanity cannot be undone. Innocents have been killed and irreparably harmed by their actions.
“If it’s true why can’t I say it?”
Boom!
I would vote for Ice Cube before any lying republican.
Trump/Ice Cube 2024
Yeah,, he gets it. Problem is, he doesn’t know he gets it. Like a lot of Democrat voters, he knows they are condescending liars, but he just can’t take that final step.
The term Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind, and Thomas Wictor is right.
“If the troof hurts, say ouch”
–Ice Cube
Overall, I think the interview was good and I think for the most part that ICE is a man that thinks for himself. BUT what annoys me (and ICE is not alone in this) is that he completely lost all his common sense when he voted for Zero. I will never forget a friend and I were discussing the election that year and she was all for Obama. WHY? Because for no other reason she wanted to be a part of history of electing a black man. Ughhh! I cant help it but still hold a lot of animosity towards those people. It is as their brains fell out that election year.
But like the rest of us on other related subjects, he appears to be ‘awakening.’
Look for the positive.
People change when reality hits.
I’ve heard of Ice Cube but didn’t know anything about him. The 12 minute video was worth watching and can be summed up by saying, if you lie you’re never punished. You’re only punished for telling the truth.
“If the truth hurts, say ouch.”
Yawwwnnnnn!
My favorite takeaway from this interview
“If the truth hurts…….say ouch!” Ice Cube
Lamenting that which you have helped create NWA?
Ice Cube is an intelligent, thoughtful guy. This interview was great!
I often go to you tube to follow Col Macgregor update on the Ukraine war lie’s.
Notice that there are more and more black Americans podcast switching to pro trump and against the establishment of anti Trump.
Maybe for the money?
But I like what I am seeing.
Ice Cube narrates a guided tour of UniParty World, where the soft bigotry of low expectations, and the financial pressure to stay on that plantation, both thrive on the backs of certain citizens.
Watched the whole video. What impressed me is that those two people made their own decisions. Not the government.
Neither one took the vaccine. Ice said he knows people who died from it. Not a fan of hip hop a member of the
Country club, but respect those that can make their own decisions and not march in step with the so called group.
MAGA, USA USA USA
:).
Ice Cube said nothing really changed after obama.
From where I sit things got a lot worse for society at large and didn’t get any better for those in the hood.
Nothing changed for the better