If you did not watch the two-hour+ video of Tucker Carlson and Andrew Tate [Rumble Link Here], you might not have the correct perspective for just how devastating this video is for the career of Tucker Carlson.
However, that said, this video is very useful in explaining something about Tucker Carlson that has been discussed, debated and argued on these pages for quite a while. First, watch the video. [6 minutes] WATCH:
https://youtu.be/tHAmpUyfyy4
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Tucker flew all the way to Romania to interview Andrew Tate and present him as the victim of a horrible prosecution. Tucker went out on a limb to portray Tate as wrongly accused. When your entire brand is based on judgement and opinion, you cannot be as wrong as Tucker Carlson was in that portrayal of Tate. You just can’t.
Here’s the bigger issue….
This video shows something very important. Tucker Carlson is above average intelligence, above average communication skills, above average vocabulary, but Carlson also has ordinary and average judgement.
When your brand is established only on your judgement, and insightful opinion based on that judgement – and make no mistake the entire Carlson brand is completely organized around those two characteristics, you cannot afford to be this wrong.
With the evidence of that lacking judgement so clear, it then serves as a very specific and clear data point to reconciling other issues, like Tucker Carlson using the Twitter platform to showcase his Tucker Carlson Tonight broadcasts.
Readers here have long known my opinion of Twitter, and that analysis has equally applied to the current disposition of Elon Musk. Twitter CEO Elon Musk is teetering on the precipice of financial ruin as a result of the extremely unstable financial position of the social media enterprise. Twitter is a bottomless pit of costs, with almost no possibility of financial recovery without some major change in the business model.
The financial position of Twitter is the only prism that matters in the review of decisions that Elon Must is making about the platform. Free speech, liberty, safe opinion, the public square, all of it is less than the financial viability of the company. Every large or seemingly consequential decision on the platform is centered around the finances therein. Despite what might be the front face or intent of Mr Elon Musk, nothing else is more important, influential or determinative of his action.
Carlson’s lack of judgement in the Andrew Tate interview, extends toward and explains his relationship with Twitter and Musk; it’s just bad judgement.
Keep this reference point in mind as you weight the opinion and analysis provided by Tucker Carlson.
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I started to question whether Tucker’s keel was so even when watching his Russell Brand interview. Towards the end, he began hyper ventilating about England’s architecture. Not just an appreciation, but complete with loud voice and wild hand gesticulation. I appreciate nice buildings, but that seemed well over the top.
I noticed his reaction too. If he were running for office, that would have tanked his campaign Howard Dean Style.
Tucker’s astute observation of architecture following culture was profound. Describing his actions as hyperventilating with wild hand movements is pure hyperbole.
I don’t agree. It was manic babbling. IMO
touchy touchy
Didn’t watch the video of which you speak, but loving architecture is not odd. Trump has many times spoken of the ugly buildings we build here in the States. There’s something about being surrounded by beauty that is inspiring, whether made by Man or by God. England’s architecture isn’t “nice” it’s incredible. We need a bit more of that here.
you miss the Pat and Rino Ron’s point….it’s not the architectural appreciation; it’s the manic enthusiasm and gestures they were talking about…..
And? That’s Tucker’s way… Russell Brand is not your typical person, either. Their enthusiasm and outgoing nature is why they are famous and we’re not. I do not judge someone, because they get excited about architecture.
“Their enthusiasm and outgoing nature is why they are famous and we’re not. ”
You believe THAT?
There are no words….
Have fun in your fan club
I left out very intelligent, witty, knowledgeable, hard working, etc., etc., etc…. yes.
I find the wild gestures and hysterical cackling to be very off-putting. But that is Tucker. Those idiosyncrasies (IMO) make him seem immature.
Seems like someone needs to read Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead.”
Isn’t that one of the most magnificent books to read? “Howard Roark laughed.”
Mega dittos.
🙂
Architecture can be experienced as *amazing & exciting* by people who appreciate that kind of artistry & beauty & experience.
I live in a place with 3 (that I know of) Frank Lloyd Wright buildings; one opera house (Gammage Auditorium, his final project), one school of architecture (Taliesin West), and one home (for his son).
These exceptional buildings/properties are dynamically instructional, and contrast everything else around them. Just being in them is an experience (I’ve been in 2 of 3; the home is not accessible for the public that I know of)… because they were designed with the experience of being in them as a priority. I’ve also lived in Europe and had the very great pleasure of being in & around some very Grand places as a reoccuring-tourist; excellence used to be far more common than it is now.
Trump is *a builder who loves beauty* and knows beauty and creates beauty… he’s right – buildings are mostly ugly.
{ BEAUTY Why Beauty Matters by Roger Scruton } food for thought; art & architecture addressed prominently & why it has been degraded
Scruton is a marvel.
Paul Joseph Watson (Why Modern Architecture Sucks)
That was strange. I had the same response to Tucker’s babbling about British architecture. His ADD was in full swing.
Paul Joseph Watson had a good video on how socialist-brutalist post-war concrete box architecture destroys the Human Spirit and the beauty of his homeland, England. The Devotees of pro-nazi Le Corbusier metastasized and killed our cities.
The vice video has been discredited for months. They have his hard drives. We will know. Until then, everyone acting outraged is really uninformed on the matter.
I fully agree. For most people here, Andrew Tate isn’t a person with whom they are familiar so even if the first impressions are sourced from known liars, they tend to go with it. I think we need to look first at who opposes him to see what’s what to build a first impression. Leftists are nothing if not emotionally driven. And if you think the left cares about women, you’re not paying the slightest bit of attention.
Greed. The left is aggressivley trying to destroy women. Worse yet we are permitting it…
I am totally shell shocked by this. I watched the full interview 2 times and one time buzzed. I loved it. I know why Tate is hated. He represents so much Globohomo has set out to destroy. Young girls like him because they like masculine men. Young fellas do too because he is not a bullshitter and teaches them to be men.
Hell….he’s a lot like Donald Trump if you ask me. I have a feeling its that Liz Wheeler nut who started this. Both Tucker & Tate are reaching an untold amount of our youth. Both are extreme enemies of the state. Both of them have my full support.
If Tate ends up being guilty then I will obviously retract it. But dammit listen to what they are going after him for. As of now I am floored to see this article on here lol…..seriously I am scratching my head wondering if I missed something.
If Tate ends up being guilty then I will obviously retract it.
You believe in any court system especially crooked Romania?
Well, not sure comparisons between American and Romanian “Justice” are worth trying to make at this point?
I don’t know how long you have been a reader, but if you attribute to Sundance even the slightest degree of impulsive and poorly thought out analysis you are underestimating him.
Sundance is neither malicious nor sensationalist.
I thought Andrew Tate was an old choice for such an in depth interview. Why was it a misguided choice? Was Tate lying about the paltry evidence against him?
Knowing zero about Andrew Tate, I watched the Tucker video last week. I would have wondered the same thing – but then I watched the 6 minute vid that’s posted above.
Yea, not a good choice Tuck.
Their lack of following their own law in Romania is a tell tale sign of political targeting. We’re seeing the UK government and others (not just the USA/IC) go after people in other countries all of the time. So I find myself a bit lost when Sundance, without being specific, thinks Tate was a bad person to interview. I think Tucker did the interview in order to make some people VERY angry with him — specifically those who are doing the targeting.
Tucker has, since Trump, turned on us at least 4 or 5 times and these were not slight betrayals.
If Tucker is too surrounded by sycophants he is entirely susceptible to thinking too highly of himself and at risk of the same sort of echo chamber as the elites.
Did you watch the 6 minute video? (the 1st one posted)
Regardless of how the evidence holds up in a courtroom, Tate is clearly a garbage human being. Going out on a limb for this lying creep was terrible move, and shows terrible judgment.
Bingo!
I would have preferred him to interview Julian Assange.
I agree, Julian Assange would have been a much more interesting person to interview, who I believe has a lot of secrets to tell. That would be an out-of-the-park interview, not with a scumbag Tate. IMHO
isn’t it interesting that Tucker did NOT choose Julian? There is far more to be learned and exposed through Julian.
I am not sure Assange is in any shape to do an interview. He hasn’t been seen like that in years, and his family said he is not in a good place.
@Sundance I wouldn’t swear for someone’s character who I don’t know and haven’t met in person, but you of all people should know how the media created selectively edited and taken out of context videos of PDJT e.g. the Access Hollywood tapes and “The very fine people,” or the…They are rapists that come over our border etc….and put it out there and created the narrative that Trump is a rapist, misogynist and also a racist etc…the video of Tate looks like material from VICE which is a bankrupt liberal organization and other interesting outlets to create a narrative. I don’t know where the truth is but just keep all of this in mind when making an astute observation.
I had to turn off the vid at the point where Tate was smacking some girl telling her to look in the camera demanding that she admit why she was being beaten. Classic abuser. “It’s your fault you are being beaten.”
They lie about Trump all the time. There never was and never will be such a video of Trump.
It is sad that Tucker fell for this creep. Tucker did not do due diligence as a reporter investigating what was happening. Letting Tate characterize his charges vs having law enforcement do so. Not researching Tate’s victims. Etc.
I don’t know where the other Tate videos came from, bragging about how he acts like a pimp. About how he rips off the girls and the men that fall for the girls. My guess is that they were made long before he was arrested. And therefore out there for any investigator to find. If he tries. Why didn’t Journalist Tucker try?
Definitely a blind spot in Tucker’s Journalism. And a horrible mistake that ruins Tucker’s credibility.
I take it you’re not at all familiar with some people who actually want this. It’s not a thing anyone I would want to know would do, but it definitely exists out there. And based on a stark reality that the charging officials are out there trying to pay people to testify against him and haven’t been able to? Seems a little weird. Especially the girl from that one clip.
The VICE video, if I understand correctly, has already been debunked as to the true expression of everything he said and did within that video.
But the webcam business? It’s big. OnlyFools is just one of many but they ALL take more than the girls get and they keep on doing it.
I once went through a phase after my first marriage where I simply hated women. I did things my “nice guy” had always been inhibited but after things fell apart for me, I simply didn’t know who I was. So I started becoming shameless and bold. And like a light switch, I had college girls 24/7 with no apologies. After a while I had to stop because I really hated being around people for which I had no respect and that included the girls and myself. But I have walked a mile in his shoes and success was incredibly easy.
And pretty much every entertainment industry game out there falls into the category of onlyfools type of model. The one organizing and running the business gets the bulk and the employees (or whatever you want to call them) get a lot less.
But I’ll add, just as I spent my time (short time but still) in that mindset, that’s not the mindset Tate lives under now and during the time in question.
Look at the differences in ages and personality from the short clip-edited video and the guy interviewed by Tucker. This guy is married and completely monogamous.
This is just a bit like the “Access Hollywood” video featuring Trump. But it’s different with Trump right?
It’s a bit scary how people who have been effectively trained not to react emotionally still fall prey to this sort of thing.
Daniel I was thrown back into the dating pool after 31 yrs marriage. I was angry at women too but being an otherwise health male biological pressure eventually forced me into dating again.
What a shock!
Never in my life would I have believed (a large percentage) of women wanted spanked, beaten, tied up and “Raped”. It was a wild ride! I was also astounded also how many much younger women threw themselves at me.
I lost multiple relationships with very nice women you would never guess seeing them on the street were absolutely ravenous in bed with no inhibitions whatsoever. I couldn’t wrap my mind around their behavior. Contradicted my societal programming to the extreme. I simply couldn’t bring myself to behave the way they demanded of me. “Good boys don’t treat women like that…
One very nice woman with several polite well behaved children would get dressed all prim and proper and her and the kids would go to mass.
I wonder what the priest heard in her confessions?
Then after the kids went to their father’s place she turned into this ravenous creature with a drawer full of chain, handcuffs, rope, and detailed very blunt instructions and how she wanted then used. It was mentally exhausting.
Remember Fifty Shades of Grey is the product of a woman author. She said she simply wrote down her fantasies. Her fantasies have sold over TWO BILLION DOLLARS. Men aren’t buying that stuff.
That was my experience as well. I was a TERRIBLE actor. I just couldn’t get into it. I won’t mention the things they wanted me to do to them. It’s not good to talk about this after lunch if you know what I mean.
And I don’t mind that people find it hard to believe. These are much better people! I remember as my now ex-wife was cheating on me. I never suspected even though the signs were right in my face. Why? Because I would never do it, I was naïve and thus unable to imagine she would do any such thing. It was well outside of my ability to consider.
As I said, I didn’t like the people (especially those who turned out to want things I didn’t) and I didn’t like what I feared I might become. Sure I might tie someone up if they wanted me to. But then I might just leave… maybe order pizza first and leave the door unlocked. (That’s pretty funny right there)
If you are in SW Ohio will have dinner and a beer. LOL
Hmmm. I wonder if wrote all that stuff down I could sell a book and get rich also. 😮
Wow!
The 6 min video of nothing but piecemeal sound bites. Be skeptical of soundbites.
You mean VICE cannot be trusted as a source?
Lol!
I don’t know who Andrew Tate is, but he was interviewed twice on Tucker Carlson Tonight. I always watched the taped show when I exercised and I never missed an episode. I no longer watch fox because they fired Carlson, plus everyone at Fox seemed to have a hidden agenda. It was obvious Carlson had been reigned in and he had to pick his topics carefully (he only covered Jan. 6 one night), but this Tate guy seemed very bizarre. I got the impression like he was a white rapper (gangster in his mind only), but apparently he was a pimp. To me people who make money through the abuse of vulnerable people, be it children, the elderly, or the emotionally unwell women deserve no quarter. Why Tucker’s fascination troubles me. England has been beset by abuse towards its women by moslem groomers and apparently Andrew Tate. Even if everything Tate did was legal because the women consented it is not the type of person that a God fearing conservative should help promote. They have Epstein, Weinstein, B Clinton, FJB and his son Hunter, we don’t need our own versions so help us. It is bad enough we have nineteen senators that support Biden. How do we tell Carlson no pimps?
Just some comments. Tate is half White. And Muslim. This was discussed in the long Tucker interview.
In that video above, he seduces girls, then uses a female to get them drunk and recruit them. (Sounds like the actress that played Chloe in Smallville recruiting girls for that cult, or like Ghislaine recruiting for Epstein).
Also from that video, after recruiting them he keeps them under his control in his mansion. He rips off the girls. And he beats them to keep them under his control.
And most of that came from his own lips.
Agreed. Tate is not worth our time, now that I better understand the situation. He is just a punk that has figured how to to manipulate and control women to make a lot of money. Beyond this post, I won’t spend another second on this guy and his situation.
I like Tucker a lot. Watch everything that he produces. There are so many more good interviews that he could have chosen instead of this one…
News articles state that he chose Romania deliberately, apparently falsely believing that he could never be charged with rape or sexual abuse there because of that country’s attitude towards women, because (he thought) in their society the authorities would demand “evidence”, like video. iow, women’s words mean nothing there. Sounds familiar.
In some Muslim societies, a raped woman isn’t believed unless she has four male witnesses. Otherwise, SHE’S the guilty party, guilty of shaming her family. Such women have been killed because of the “dishonor” she represents to the MEN in her family. In other Muslim societies, “real men” who engage in homosexual relations are not considered homosexual unless they’re the receiving parties, if you get my drift. The shame of homosexuality is not in the behavior, except for the man who acts in the role of the woman, because being a woman is shameful in and of itself. Lesser.
This, I learned in college, back when such things were allowed to be taught in cultural anthropology classes. Who knows how these cultures are presented now.
Sundance, respectfully, you are missing the larger point that this interview was about competing with TikTok. Andrew Tate’s audience is primarily young men and teenagers on TikTok. These are people who likely have never made a Twitter account since TikTok is where the action is these days for that generation. Tucker went out of his way to interview this Tate creep to try to win those younger folks away from TikTok and over to the Twitter platform. That interview was effectively a TV commercial for Twitter.
So the best method for building your brand and promoting your platform is to interview Tate, who’s own words are profoundly revealing, and not once question him on his own statements?
No, the best method for sniping TikTok followers is to simply use what is popular on TikTok, which in this case is Andrew Tate. “Devastating videos,” “lack of judgment,” outright hypocrisy? Nobody on TikTok cares. If Andrew Tate’s millions of followers ever cared, then they wouldn’t be following that despicable man in the first place. And, heck, I’d wager that even the majority of Tucker fans don’t care either. Does anyone here honestly expect Tucker’s viewership to drop because of this one interview?
I think Sundance is going to have to explain this in detail. He sometimes sees things we do not and assumes we will see the same thing. Clearly, based on the comments here, we don’t see what he sees.
But I’m reminded of two specific things on CTH history where I was similarly confused. The first time, it was an image of the fencing around the white house, at the time under Obama. He didn’t say what he wanted us to see. He just showed the image. People zeroed in on the ornamentation on the fencing and thought he was trying to say something about his religious affiliation.
Later he hypothesized that the left-right spectrum is a circle rather than a line where both at a certain point on his imaginary circle both sides meet at extreme violence or something. I called BS on that analogy because the left-right spectrum is a LINE where one end (left) is most government control/ownership over the means of production and the others (right) is most private control/ownership. People on the left want government to do everything “on their behalf” and people on the right want to do everything for themselves without anyone else getting in their business. People on the left want to get into everyone else’s business while people on the right want to be left alone and to leave others alone. And most importantly, people on the left are prone to violence while people on the right are NOT except in cases of self-defense or the defense of others. I don’t see how it isn’t clear except that people have long believed NAZIs are “far right” which was and always has been a HUGE lie. Antifa and brown shirts based on ideology and action are the same people with disagreements on specific alignment with philosophical leadership directing them.
Sundance has yet to come out with any sort of justification for his previously expressed view to make sense of it.
And in this case, as a personal victim of similar targeting, surely he can see Tate is a victim of political targeting. So now I, as others, wonder why Sundance thinks this interview was a big mistake on Tucker’s part.
I am amazed that any of us can view that 6 minute compilation of Tate videos and be blind to what Sundance is saying. I had to stop it about three and a half minutes in where Tate was beating up one of his victims trying to force her to say why he is beating her.
People demanding more detail from Sundance either are okay with Abusive Thieving Pimps, or they haven’t watched the video.
Who knows, there may be even worse in the two and a half minutes past the point where I could bear watching.
I agree with you totally.
We are in an abusive relationship with our Government…?
Why is there a question mark after that statement? Is there any doubt our government is abusing us…. especially Christians and people on the right.
If Madeline did it on her phone I confirm that FREQUENTLY I press exclamation mark and auto correct turns it into a question mark.
Agree. Absodamlutely agree. It’s obvious from some of the comments that people skipped the first video.
Sundance has shown us a metaphor of us. We are being lied to, manipulated, and beaten by the 4th branch and all of government. But what we see and hear day to day from government and media is not what we are truly experiencing. 6 minutes of the truth and beating 2 and a half hours of propaganda
At first I didn’t watch the video.
I had already watched Tucker’s –Tate interview because I wanted to know what the big deal was about this individual. I thought Sundance was posting that show (which was 2-part and lengthy)
Now I see what a vomitous pig he is. Yuck!
Because that selectively edited clip show is fully taken out of context and was created by VICE.
You don’t understand this was a specially edited hit piece put out by VICE… perhaps they are a source you trust. The clip show used some of the same clips over and over. It was meant to make you feel and react. They show him saying things (in an interview?) but they never show what was asked nor show the entire context of what he was talking about. For example, if you have seen any of his more recent interviews, he very often “acts out” how other people see him. Any of that is possible and none of it is clear.
But based on that material, surely the abused woman would come forward as a witness against him… right? Seems like they don’t really have any witnesses with real names or faces. If that sounds like Trump’s accusers to you? You wouldn’t be alone.
This is Trump’s “Access Hollywood” tape on steroids but it is the same in nature.
All of this stuff didn’t come out until Tate came out of the dark, cleaned up his act, and started teaching men how to be men. And he doesn’t teach ANYTHING like that. And he’s now married and monogamous.
But sure… a hack video as an introduction is a fair and reasonable way to introduce a public figure to people.
If you’re wondering why some people still have Trump Derangement Syndrome, you have you answer. The media got to them first and once that happens, it takes a LOT to remove that from the brain.
This, I suspect, is why Sundance insisted “watch this video first.” Because the first videos featuring Tate I ever saw where positive and useful. And I saw that interview as well. He has mentioned his past in his videos but I never thought it was important to seek any of them out. He never lied or denied his past.
But you’re now aware of what it’s like for the other side with their TDS… so certain what you saw was complete, truth and current. Brought to you by VICE… a source I’m sure you fully trust.
You’ve been had.
You think that what you are refer to is ALL that Sundance has seen?????
Good grief, sit in the corner.
AMEN, Jim!
I cannot believe the second guessing of Sundance.
how many of these nay sayers have the SLIGHTEST idea what he has gone through to keep this site for us and to gather info?
He went from dismissed and obscure to now being one of hte most targeted (and feared by elites and leftist leaders) sites.
The guy who can get the FBI to flee, because he has the means to source the phony identity that they created, in order to rope him into J6, is NOT making this column because he has not thought out his observations.
I agree with the people who don’t think it’s a huge deal. By next week most people won’t even remember it. I don’t care about Tate or some chicks trying to live that Instagram lifestyle and getting screwed. No free lunch kids better to learn it young. You want to live in the mansion fly around in the jets drive in the fancy cars? Then guess what. It does seem like the regime is hot for Tate.
Well I have no sympathy for Tate. If he wants to trick women into making him money and trying to be a pimp then guess what? Better to learn it young. I hope they hang him. Won’t shed a tear. Won’t ever think of him again.
Did you watch the clip? Regardless if there was selective editing by vice. There is more than enough there to determine this guy is a piece of garbage. That video of him beating a girl and demeaning her by making her look at the camera and explain why she’s being hit, is more then enough to determine he’s pure filth.
Even if that girl was in on it, and it was just an act for the audience, stop and think about what message that is sending to the young audience of followers. Yes, people can think for themselves. Unfortunately his followers are weak minded idiots that want to emulate him. And they get off and that stuff and in some cases will attempt to emulate that behavior in their own little sphere of life.
This Tate guy has shown enough for the average Christian to be able to decide he’s not someone we want to be aligning with or defending.
Regarding your circle analogy of left and right from the fence around the Whitehouse or whatever, you immediately aligned that with the citizens on the right and left. Yet just from what you were saying (as I don’t recall the article you reference) I was immediately associating it with the politicians on Both sides. The analogy makes much more sense when you apply it to the snakes that are in office. Yet you applied it to the people of the country. I don’t think that’s what he meant. But that’s just my guess since it makes perfect sense when you apply it to politicians.
Tucker most certainly does not need Tik Tok. He has a huge and growing audience.
I find this interview disturbing on many levels.
How could a guy as smart as Tucker make such a huge mistake?
Perhaps Tucker KNEW full well what he was doing, WE simply have yet to fully understand the overall dynamic.
I think SD was pretty clear.. judgement and intelligence are very different. Remember that joke about an airplane with 5 people and 4 parachutes?? The airplane is going to crash, and the punchline is that the smartest person in the world jumps out,,with a seat cushion. Tate is Tucker’s seat cushion.
FWIW I couldn’t finish the 6.04 minutes.. Tate, even if he is rich, was grotesque.
I wonder if he has the producers and staff to vet any crazy ideas he might have when thinking of projects to do. Now he’s the boss who’s gonna say ‘that is a crazy idea’ to him now?
Cactus, you nailed it. I spent some time in that rarefied elite circle and Tucker, courtesy of the catbird seat that FOX’s poor judgment placed him in, is now somebody who is approached by people wanting to hang on to his coattails or be barnacles , parasites living off of him.
In that milieu he is not going to have very many people telling him the truth.
Has he ever had Caviezel or Mel or Ballard on his show? if so, recently?
Tucker is a manipulator extraordinaire. The published text messages that torpedoed Fox in the Dominion lawsuit exposes how utterly two faced he has been all along about President Trump and yet every time he has been invited to Mar a Logo, he can’t get his ass there fact enough. The same can be said for Hannity.
4 or 5 times since Trump was nominated Tucker has been on the wrong side of us and of Trump.
I want to give him a shot, but it’s a dangerous place he’s in right now with people left and right courting him for a place at his table….and I don’t even know if he completely trusts his security team.
IMO, it’s less about Tucker’s personal need for a bigger audience and more about getting the younger generation, specifically the military age men who look at Andrew Tate as a role model, off of Chinese TikTok. Frankly, I can’t unsee the connection that MIC salesman Elon Musk has secured a social media platform, exclusive content from a successful propagandist (Tucker), and is now trying to woo back military age men and the right-wing back on to the MIC’s preferred platform. It reads like a very subtle military op.
I’ve wondered if uncle EM suggested Tucker do that interview, for Twitter promotion to Tate’s audience… that would explain why Tucker chose that person –
but how much due diligence did Tucker actually do; that is my question.
it’s called hubris and in the last 8 years Tucker has taken us on a roller coaster of respect for and rage at him because of it.
Disgusting that young men would follow such a garbage human being.
Garbage women have made it so that young men don’t have upstanding men in their lives.
I was just thinking that I would not want any woman appointed to any position of power unless she had virulently opposed feminism, climate change, woke ness, identity politics, reparations, minimum pay, pro abortion, open borders, LGBT (you can like homosexual people just fine who are just as turned off by LGBT as the rest of us and simply are battling through life dealing with an affliction, not a normal impulse), socialist indoctrination and two tiered justice.
And marriage entered into with FULL intent to get each other to Heaven and make their kids pillars of the community.
95+% of men in prison have no fathers.
Don’t blame the men. Not in THIS time when it’s laughable for women to claim male dominance.
REspectfully, you have missed Sundance’s WHOLE point.
Good catch SD. Great compilation of Tate being Tate. How/why did Carlson miss or ignore any of those self reporting statements from Tate?
Maybe Tucker is using Twitter as a home-base while building his own media/social media outlet. I liked the interview but I only just learned of Andrew Tate when Elon allowed me back on Twitter late last year. I viewed the stories I have heard about him as typical smears much like we see against Trump so I was eager to hear his side of the story. That said, it may have been a far more interesting interview if Tucker had included the 6 minute video you posted above and had Tate explain that!
https://redpilluniversity.org/new-establishment-media-will-pretend-to-be-anti-establishment/
I am posting this on TCH for the third time. There are links between Tate and Carlson.
I like the fact that Polly does say that some of the people in this hierarchy may be sincere and if so, they will eventually have to separate themselves from their paymasters.
I think Steven Crowder is in that category. I feel he is a person who is committed to the truth, not a paycheck.
I just watched this video, thanks AnAppeal, I love amazing polly. I had not seen this, but I think there may be some good people here, thinking they are doing the right thing, but as she says, so many interconnections, that I find it difficult to even trust Tucker anymore. I am Leary of everyone these days. Which is exactly what the powers that be want. My faith is in God alone, through Christ alone.
Amen Bonny! Information warfare is real and we are being bombarded by it daily, even the most discerning can be in jeopordy of being deceived. The Bible tells us that in the last days there will be great deception and many will be deceived. Praise God, believers have a redeeming hope in Jesus.
Very interesting Amazing Polly video. Thanks for posting.
When people’s behavior doesn’t make sense, you can sometimes make sense of it by following the money.
If Twitter is about to implode and be no more, is the “new media” structure being described here the thing that will take Twitter’s place? Are they really running such a long con on us?
Polly is an excellent researcher/presenter… excellent share… Thank You.
Your posted video is very important. Thank you!
Hang on a moment. Someone will need to explain to me what is wrong with Tucker’s defense of Tate? He has been completely set up and targeted. I don’t believe for a second he is guilty of any of the “crimes” of which he is being charged and held. The establishment wants weak, controllable men and brainwashed women. We’ve witnessed the establishment go after a LOT of public voices and political people using all manner of dirty tricks to target social media people. SUNDANCE himself is among those targeted even to go so far as to create false circumstances under which to accuse him.
I watched this video long ago. I find myself in agreement with a lot of it. I believe he is among those politically targeted because like Jordan Peterson, Gorsuch and more than most people can count. In this case, they went after him through another government because he lives out there. Think of the BS charges they put against Julian Assange which no one believes any longer.
So I ask again, what does anyone think I’m missing here?
How does such video emerge from a setup, and even if it did, so what?
More likely Tucker was set-up. I recall many months ago he explained how dependent he was on his staff to bring him stories since he didn’t watch TV, etc.
I recall thinking (and posting here) “ah, that’s how they will get him … its just a matter of time until they get to him through one of his “trusted advisors” feededing him bad information and him running with it and discrediting himself.
Uh, something tells me you didn’t watch the 6 minute video (the first one posted, where Tate in his own words describes his “business” & m-o).
Tate is just to have his fifteen minutes of fame. He’s a demon. I am staying safe in my Lord.
How about that Access Hollywood and other such setups?
That VICE edited video isn’t correct in context and much of this had largely been discredited in terms of context. No one thinks he’s an angel but he’s not a criminal either. Strange that they can’t manage to get women to testify against him isn’t it?
I can’t imagine why people here, after all we’ve seen, can’t see through certain things and ask questions like “why, after all of that time, did they go after him only AFTER he had effectively reformed himself?” You might notice he was MUCH younger in the worst sounding clips. And what is he like now? He converted to Islam (not a point in his favor in my opinion) but also married and became monogamous. He also was no longer running that sort of operation where instead he was focusing on more philosophical matters where his audience is young men.
But you wouldn’t know that.
The personality type of Trump and Tate are extremely similar. Trump was a big-time playboy. We all know it. Nobody ever thought of Trump as a saint. We still don’t (and shouldn’t). Owned modeling and “beauty pageants” and other entertainment businesses like casinos and all of the other ‘action’ that goes along with it? But isn’t he the right guy to go after the enemy of the people? I know he is. And what of Tate? A lot of the very same things. And Tate became very rich and powerful not from the ‘business’ dealings in the short edited clip video, but in other things. He’s a very formidable guy with a lot of charisma. And he is, to say the least, a very interesting character.
Imagine your whole life being concentrated into a bunch of selectively edited clips from long before. How well would you fare?
And remember who the people are going after him and the lack of actual evidence they can produce. They haven’t actually gotten him into a trial last I heard and had been holding him without charges for a very long time. Meanwhile the authorities have been trying to pay people to come forward against him and have gotten nothing.
In this world with all we’ve seen, how is it you and others fall prey to such things?
Well, I know why and how it is. It’s “persuasion.” Advertisers use it. Media uses it. Government especially uses it. You just got manipulated.
“The personality type of Trump and Tate are extremely similar.”
Horsesh*t. No, they are not.
Tate is a twisted piece of garbage.
LOL. To assert Trump and Tate’s past is comparable is more than a stretch, it’s ludicrous. Unless Tate has apologized and expressed remorse for his past – I’m not aware he has, actually the opposite – then he’s still garbage. I haven’t followed him or the case closely, but it’s entirely possible that he’s been mistreated by the Law despite his creepy, miscreant behavior. In any case, Tucker’s favorable interview was a mistake.
My assessment considering both videos together is Tate’s crime is taking money from Worldview camp of Repeaters who thought they could buy his strength &standards and not taking money from Worldview camp of men with strong standards and weakening them. Tucker should have ‘followed the money’ that supports Tate empire and his ‘crime’ will become evident. Tate was taking money and resources from ‘wrong’ Worldview camp and not weakening the stronger Worldview camp who is the enemy of the state.
Tate is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the cabal. God will show us the light in all of this. Be watchful
Too bad you’ve chosen to be so compliant.
Wow. Just wow. You are the one who is compliant. And it’s the wrong people who you are sourcing.
Deja vu, it was just a couple of days ago that there was a discussion on these boards about focusing on the message instead of the messenger because of comments on Steve Bannon’s appearance. Now here we are once again focusing on the messenger and not the message.
For some time now there has been a battle inside the culture wars about traditional masculinity or any masculinity what-so-ever for that matter. Traditional masculine traits have been under fire for some time now. Masculinity is now about as welcome as a turd in a swimming pool. Males (especially white males) are the only group of people that can be discriminated against without reprisal.
There are very few influencers who have come to the defense of males telling them that it’s ok to be male and to embrace traditional masculine values. Two of those people would be Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. This has had a profound effect on young males in which I believe was a catalyst for them joining the conservative cause.
Andrew Tate is not the perfect vessel to spread the word that it’s ok to be male and embrace your masculinity because of all of his baggage, but that does not take away from his message to young men, which is positive.
Oh please. Tate is just a creep, not a hero.
When someone tells you who they are believe them.
Tate can be a creep and promote some good ideas. Not mutually exclusive.
I never said he was a hero, reread the last paragraph in my post. By the way, you might want to do some research before you start spouting off to other people.
The woman accuser in the 6 minute video on this CTH thread is from a Vice article dated Jan. 4, 2023. Her accusations are from 2015 in the UK. The UK authorities declined to prosecute the Tate brothers in the UK for lack of evidence. You saw this video and swallowed it, hook, line, sinker and without question.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvm43q/andrew-tate-arrest
Again, I think it’s really sad Sundance posted this video without understanding how that video came to be. It was a carefully edited collection of clips and sound-bytes, not a documentary. It was made of small clips often played more than once. This is the kind of thing you do when you want to brainwash someone clockwork orange style.
Don’t believe? Watch it again see how often they used the same clips over and over. Most were from some sort of interview. What were the questions he was being asked? In the Tucker interview, he was very prone to verbally acting out what other people say, think or do. It’s a garbage video and I thought Sundance was able to see through things like that. My guess is a dirty little bird submitted this information to him and he took the bait just the way many people here did.
This is how TDS started… the media got to the people before Trump could get his message out. The first impression wins with many people and they will never let it go. So if you ever wondered why people can’t get over their TDS? Now you know.
“Andrew Tate is not the perfect vessel to spread the word that it’s ok to be male and embrace your masculinity because of all of his baggage, but that does not take away from his message to young men, which is positive.”
I never really cared to find out much about this Tate dude before. After watching that 6-min video, however, I can’t for the life of me understand why you or anyone else would describe his message as positive.
The guy is a sexual predator. Period.
That is not “positive” in any way.
As to how this will affect Tucker’s career, we shall see.
You’re joking right? Be a critical observer. Majority of the source material was selectively edited by VICE. Also, did you notice how they repeated some clips? Do you now know about emotional manipulation or how that works? Did you notice that he was much younger during the ugliest parts? Compare that with what he had done since.
“Compare that with what he had done since.”
You’re the one buying it all, hook, line, and sinker. Tate is garbage.
Daniel has written SO MUCH in the comments that it’s obvious he’s not balanced on this.
That’s not his message for young men, that 6 minute video is a dubious Vice compilation Get off your butt and do some research to find his real message.
What Andrew Tate is in that video is not masculinity. Okay? If you think it is you need fcking help.
A real masculine man would kick the living sht out of Tate.
All you know about Andrew Tate is what you saw in the 6 minute deceptively edited debunked Vice video. You do not have a clue about what his message is to young men. Your ignorance is boundless.
Very interesting perspective.
Watch the above video linked in AnAppeal. You may get a different perspective on all of this.
Tate’s own words on video?
How is he any different than Epstein?
Let me count the ways… no pedo. Everything he did was legal and open. Also the selectively VICE edited video was from long ago mostly. He didn’t “pimp” anyone let alone enslave anyone. The viewers were the public who was interested in such things. Better question is “how is he similar?”
You missed the first 6 minute clip.
What are you doing sucker? Typical fox dolt. Tate is a repulsive human.
Agreed. But God has put Tate here just like he put us here. He is demonic..
Romania, huh?
Hasn’t there been some Administration official(s) over there lately? Hmm 🤔
Maybe Romania is not cooperating with the Ukraine effort as expected or pushed towards.
“By Jove, we’ll send Mr. (asset) Carlson over there ostensibly to interview (ho pimping) Tate and make him look like the victim of those bad Romanian law enforcement & judicial people.”
“The result we’ll get is making them (Romanian officials) look bad to the world, their own people and to back off of our vested interests in human, money and arms trafficking in-and-out of Ukraine. That’ll get them back in line with Langley. Yeah, that’s the ticket.”
“But, Boss, we’ll expose Tucker as the half twit do-boy for us that he is to the public and especially those MAGA folks.”
“Don’t worry about that! The public is stupid, MAGA is fighting amongst themselves about his credibility as independent and trustworthy and will forget about it the next time we trot him out on our other boy’s , Elon, Twat channel. Our PSYOPS people are the best and have already told us so. Besides, it will be just as successful as our Prigozhin mutiny scheme. Just watch and see. Now, get back to work!”
Boy, oh boy! Three posts in a row about 3 distinct Mockingbird Media operations underway.
‘They’ must be nervous. Trying to regain control of the narrative(s).
What’s that thing about control and fear?
Mass Psychosis, Patience, or Colkitto – if any of you are out there in cyber space, we could probably use some creative graphics to go with this BS!
THREE posts in a row about media operations that are kinda sketchy in their own respective ways.
Kind of synonymous with “three letter AGENCIES” that arguably could appear to be coordinated = “CENTRALIZED.” 😜 👀
Black Knight if you ever wanna talk offline, here’s a place to go: http://zensurfrei.com
It’s spook-free.
🤔
Will see what may be found.
Not what you were looking for, but interesting:
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Andrew Tate, the brown, materialist, sex-obsessed degenerate, and self-obsessed narcissist, celebrates the destruction of historical White architecture to be replaced by a muslim mosque.
Anyone who supports Andrew Tate and his degenerate, materialistic, egotistic, and narcissistic lifestyle is anti-White.
The rape of Europe (?)
Good enough!
And added more context too that I (we) didn’t know about.
DS asset (working for the elites) Carlson painting the picture for Tate to be the role model for young males to follow – directly against Western European Christian values.
Let me guess – this property for the mosque conversion is how close to the ‘CITY of LONDON’ – worldwide HQs for the Banksters?
I knew there was something f’d up about this whole thing.
Long range PSYOP influence peddling operation!
According to the Tate tweet posted above:
“This building is literally dead centre in
the middle of London’s historic centre.
Amazing”
I used to think I was ‘smart.’ Like, really. Verbally ingenious when necessary, insightful, athletic and tough.
I’m outmanned, outgunned, out-strategized by these scum. They F with people when they’re not basically cheating off of me.
And Tucker could care less about anyone except his family, his brand, his fame, his fortune and his ridiculous CIA-infested entourage of whatever-they-think they are. Now he’s playing ‘arty,’ eccentric, ‘interesting.’
I literally wonder how he sleeps at night. I never thought the ruling class could be so evil towards middle America. I thought they were supposed to try to defend us and stuff.
The tell is the “lover boy method” clip. Tate’s facial expressions scream “Deception!!” Had I known this, I wouldn’t have watched a lot of the entire interview.
Limiting this remark only to the Twitter affiliation, I have read that Tucker had a contract provision with Fox that excluded his prior Twitter account from the non compete clause. I have not done the work required to validate that statement, and would appreciate anyone showing it to be wrong.
I don’t believe Tucker Carlson is lessened because he is on Twitter. What he does there must stand on its own merits, if any, and will have considerable impact as he monetizes the venture.
Suggestion to commentors:
Don’t comment until you watch the 6 min video.
Tucker failed bigly.
Agreed.
I watched the interview and don’t understand this criticism. Nevertheless, I wonder sometimes at Tucker’s claims (UFOs, for example), so I don’t simply accept everything that comes from his mouth, only what I find plausible. And I’m always open to other arguments and evidence.
The six minute video is not the same as the Tucker interview.
It contains evidence in Tate’s own words and recorded actions of how he is entrapping, ripping off, and beating those girls.
How about really opening yourself to evidence by watching the video at the top? But be forewarned, Tate actually videoed himself beating girls. That is where I had to turn it off.
I had no idea who Andrew Tate was until I read this article and watched the video.
As far as I can tell he’s a punk and a creep who I find totally uninteresting.
Why on earth would Tucker ever lower himself to do this interview?
Big mistake, unforced error.
This was the plan 👇
Surely none of those “grifters” can compare to Senators and Representatives who say they fight and work tirelessly on behalf of the hard-working American people but never seem to accomplish anything except perpetuate the growth of government by oligarchs and corporations while amassing fortunes beyond anything commensurate with their pay, and remain humble public servants for decades.
Sundance – my son is a huge Tate fan. he is right down the middle of the political spectrum. Very smart and detailed as are you. Does his homework. He looks at the persecution of Tate as very similar to trump and Putin. The destruction of the alpha male.
If not Tucker than who to bring us his side of the story.
Seems over dramatic and not so important as say , the DOJ seizing phones from a competing campaign.??
Point is, I don’t see any of us knowing a thing about Tate, not our sunshine. We don’t know a thing about him. Here is tucker presenting the other side, as he always does. And for this , his career is over.
Seems sketchy.
Soon we will not have any friends , isolated and alone. Tucker is tucker. Why the hostility to our side? Post the video and let us decide. To declare tucker dead is way over the top.
We need every patriot we can get – the bar for disbandment needs to be higher…much higher.
I don’t know this Tate guy, but judging by the 6min video, I believe that Tucker could’ve interviewed Snowden for the purpose you are suggesting.
If the only thing you saw about Tate was what you saw on Tucker or other interviews he has done recently (not only Tucker) you wouldn’t think as you do.
Sundance poisoned first impressions of Tate first using a selectively edited VICE clip video. You should notice a few things about that video. First, the context is completely extracted. Many people have already done work to debunk most of it showing that he was “acting out” what people think of him in many cases. Also, you should notice that many clips were repeated! Why repeat clips in the same video? I know why — it’s about manipulation and brain washing. It’s meant to create a base impression before delivering the interview with Tucker.
Compare that with the political campaigns and media propaganda attacking Trump. The media loved him until they hated him. And when they hated him they were vicious.
The media and the authorities didn’t care about Tate in the slightest. But then he changed his life and direction and started directing his energies to teaching masculinity to young men and how to be GOOD men. THAT is when the “entities” turned against him.
Trump was a millionaire-billionaire playboy who owned and operated casinos and other entertainment services a lot of people would refuse to attend on moral grounds. He said and did things that, especially when taken out of context, made Trump look bad. Most of us were able to see PAST his past to see what he wanted to do with our country.
But the first impression of Tate was prefaced by a hit-piece clip compilation from VICE…. That’s how the game is played. And you got played. I’m pretty sure Sundance got played too. First impressions are tough to beat. That’s why the first video came first. To set the mood. Because if you didn’t see other Tate videos first, the reaction is as predictable.
Notice how “Daniel” attempts to compare a piece of garbage, Tate, to one of the greatest of Americans, Trump.
It’s a smear job, and done for a reason. Don’t fall for it.
From a personality standpoint Tate and Trump are very similar. Both very masculine and very driven and very successful. Trump owned all sorts of enterprises that utilized women in entertainment. Nothing as bad as Tate’s enterprises but then again, we’re talking about decades apart.
Neither did anything illegal but both have been accused of doing illegal things many times. Both have/had a taste for exotic and beautiful women. Both were publicly active and social and seen with many women at times and very popular with them.
Both reformed their lives as well. Tate, long before things really went bad for him, had already gotten religious and monogamous. Trump went on to Make America Great Again while Tate went on to help restore masculinity to men instead of letting them act like “broken women.”
There are distinct parallels. Unfortunately, you fell for the VICE created video collage meant to make you hate a man you know nothing about. And be honest. Before the 6 minute video, did you know anything about him?
I watched the long interview (had never seen him before except in headlines lately) a day or two before I saw the short montage; in the interview he came off, imo, as arrogant & deceptive… that duper’s delight smirk while describing the charges against him is blatant & telltale; he comes off like a classic bully pretending to be the ‘good guy’; far too Machiavellian for my taste or comfort; Tate is not an admirable man, imo.
The Vice montage, rather than a hit piece against Tate, is *bragging* about that violent/domineering-male persona & lifestyle; repetitive clips are intended to effectively shove it down our throats, bludgeon it home, normalize it, & force our acceptance of hateful-male behavior. Vice is a vile concern *because that’s the frequency level they operate on*; they could have chosen *any name and any ‘genre’* to proffer, but it’s this they found most appropriate…
“vice1 | vīs |
noun
immoral or wicked behavior: an open sewer of vice and crime;
• criminal activities involving prostitution, pornography, or drugs;
• an immoral or wicked personal characteristic;
• a weakness of character or behavior; a bad habit…”
~ online dictionary
It is possible to be a masculine, strong, confident, productive, successful, self-respecting and admirable man, without being vicious or manipulative and domineering toward others; that is the only correct – honorable – way to be a masculine man; to express the Divine Masculine congruently without deeply-dark motivations & tendencies. The only dominance a man should ever strive for is to wield it successfully over his own pain body/shadow side.
Tate’s promotion of machismo-masculinity, in his way, may in fact be helpful in some way, to some who can – or need to learn to – recognize & take the wheat/reject the chaff, glean the beneficial & leave off the detrimental (some people obviously have the need to develop discernment)… however it falls egregiously short in quality of Brett McKay’s { The Art of Manliness }, IMHO.
Striving for/developing (ultimately having to transcend via FAFO) Tate’s mixed-bag masculinity – a combination of arrogance, viciousness/brute force, dominance-enabling-knowledge, and religious adherence – represents a far lesser-quality of masculinity development than a well-rounded instruction for a combination of broad intellectual scope, a litany of practical/ beneficial skills, and positive character traits including deep Faith… void of arrogance, viciousness, and deceit.
Trump has had little to ‘reform’ within himself; Tate has *much* more to accomplish.
No contest.
Trump is the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution & the Bill of Rights… inherently, congruently powerful, broadly beneficial… win-win-win intention & facilitation.
Tate is the globalist-authoritarian deep state… usurper & wielder of power by subjugation, manipulation & force, inherently self-interested, narrowly beneficial… “be the winner-*f*-the-losers” intention & facilitator.
I respectfully suggest – for all who do – a season of examining your own internal relationship to masculinity/inherent personal power to discern the essence of & reason(s) why you feel inclined to defend & admire Andrew Tate and/or his brand of masculinity.
“In the capacities of mankind there are three degrees: one man understands things by means of his own natural endowments; another understands things when they are explained to him; and a third can neither understand them of himself, nor when they are explained by others.”
~ Niccolò Machiavelli
You need to teach your son that it is not okay to abuse women. And that he should not fall for the deceptions of such an abuser.
Watch the video!
I think you are in need of a soul searching discussion with your son about his misguided fanaticism , that is what being a fan really means,of this disgusting individual.
Possibly asking your son if he would every want this parasite in the company of any female family member he loves.
Even if what Tate said on the second video is just bravado if still comes from a very ugly place in my opinion.
Having had a UATV account for about 4 years, and catching Bib Bear (Owen Benjamin) live streams, there was video evidence of
Tate’s corruption.
Tate is “promoted” on the tooob as a male “influencer” when all indications he is a violent thug.
Worship God, follow Jesus and watch out for the fraudulent ones that the powers and principalities place in your view.
Worship god, follow Jesus and watch out for the fraudulent ones that the powers and principalities place in your view. AGREED! WELL SAID!!!!
Not knowing a thing about who Tate is or what he does, I couldn’t get through the Tucker/Tate interview. There was just something repulsive about him.
The case against him may be a sham/fraud but that would be completely in line with how the self appointed gubmint “white knights” in raggedy capes have always operated.
The end justifies any means.
That’s just what the left says… or “By Any Means Necessary” is what they actually. Say. You don’t really believe “The end justifies the means” do you?
“… that would be completely in line with how the self appointed gubmint “white knights” in raggedy capes have always operated.”
That’s who they are & I’m not with them.
Read, listen and ponder all that is out there. It’s what Sundance and our community does. Reach your own thoughts. God gave you the tools, use them. Tucker is and will continue to be part of the circus. Critical thinking is a gift, use it.
Tate is probably guilty of many things but it still looked like a phone call from US intelligencia to me. That motivated the authorities there to take action.
I am wary of all media figures and essentially all public figures. Carlson can only be a tactical ally, not across the board. This Tate guy never passed my vomit test. He’s completely manipulative. I watched a long BBC interview with him. He was interviewed by a BBC Left woman and although she never laid a finger on him, I walked away with an even lower opinion of this Tate degenerate.
I knew very little about Andrew Tate prior to watching Tucker’s interview with him from Romania.
As a fan of Tucker’s I remember thinking “Tucker Carlson traveled to Romania to interview some guy named Andrew Tate for two hours? This must be important.” I was curious, so I watched.
I came away from the original interview thinking Tate is another innocent guy being railroaded to serve some other addenda.
I just watched the first 6-minute video posted above. I was going to call Tate a low-life, hussler. That does not go far enough. Tate is evil. He still might be getting unfairly railroaded in Romania, but he is evil and should be shunned.
Tucker needs to justify giving this man a forum.
You can tell that Tate studied Tucker, to know exactly what to say in his pseudo-intellectual way, and yet it seems the reverse didn’t happen. Unfortunately.
I couldn’t watch the whole six minutes. Sorry. Tucker screwed up,,, bigly. SMH
I warned y’all about Cucker a long time ago. But who am I? Just a nut on the end of a stick shift.
Right with you Mike. I started giving warnings about him (I prefer F**ker) 11/4//20 and several times after. It was clear as day where he and his paymasters stood.
Wow, I watched the first 30 minutes of this interview when it first came out. I had never heard of Andrew Tate. I watched to learn. I took the information that this is a masculine outcast who is an inspirational speaker for men who is getting Lawfare’d… I never got back to the final 2 hours.
I’m so glad you posted this article. Without it, I’d have never known and probably made the mistake of defending this guy. Now I can inform my peers.
Never having heard of Tate he certainly had me mesmerized and convinced of his victimization. I truly felt for the guy.
When he got to the topic of hypocrisy and stated he is now a climate activist (at this point I had seen the 6 minute clip), it was this point when Andrew Tate knew he had Tucker completely duped. I know I was.
I hope Tucker comes out with a follow-up correction to his audience admitting as much. I would highly respect that move.
2 dudes talking about themselves wearing dressy shoes with no socks and khakis. Nuff said.
I’ve never trusted Tucker since his bowtie days, but I’m fine with celebrating when he says something I agree with. We have so few allies. I take them where I can get ’em.
When Tate said “… it’s essential to have a good first girl…” how could I not think of Ghislane, Epstein, Gates, Clintons, et al. Then it sunk in just how old this ugly game really is; monetizing the lives and deaths of others.
Sex is just one path to the money. Power over others remains the object of the exercise. The obsession with the latter belies the perversion lurking within; the depravity of a criminal nature where the intent to harvest and indifference to harm reside, which pretty much describes the entirety of our modern cohort of political rent-seekers holding office on both sides of the isle.
So is Tucker stupid? No. Did Tucker behave stupidly? Maybe so.
Was his good faith wasted? Probably not. Sometimes that’s the price we pay to discover the worst among us and the worst within us.
The perversion of reason is among the oldest of tricks. No one is always and forever immune from falling victim to it. We’ve all been there.
It’s more about the finer points that separate being fooled from being a fool. Tucker was dead-on right about this being a remarkable story involving important and compelling issues in our modern era. The biggest rule he broke:”never become part of the story.”
Tucker needs to tell the rest of the story. This is not the time to run and hide in shame.
Didn’t watch. Don’t care about Tate. He’s a bit player at best.
I did wonder about the matching outfits right down to the loafers without sox.
So Tucker possibly screwed up? Is that the standard now? One mistake or two and it’s into the wood chipper with you? I thought we were against cancel culture. My bad.
Maybe Tucker just deep down wanted to go to Romania. I mean, have you tried the cevapi?
This is not meant to defend Tucker but being able to identify a psychopath on the spot in an interview that you are invested in to prove a point and showcase yourself is very very difficult. Having said that, there are some people you avoid until your research team has done its homework. I’d like to know who set this up, did the vetting, read the indictment, interviewed victims et cetera. Now that would be interesting.
“…I’d like to know who set this up.”
That’s the thing in a nutshell. Sundance does heaps of fantastic reporting, but he’s pointing in the wrong direction here. Tucker messed up, badly ; there’s no disputing this fact. In all probability, however, like Trump with the jabs and the lockdowns and his jaw-droppingly stupid Cabinet appointments, he did so at the instigation of a third party.
Tucker was so busy taking precautions against flying slugs of lead, that he never saw the spoonful of honey being handed him for what it was.
As Schumer famously put it, “They have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you.”
Excellent points.
I watched the entire thing. I saw and heard Tate verbalize more than one of my realizations in a manner that was impressive in its concrete simplicity of analogy. Whether he in fact financially benefitted from Tik Tok videos will be either concretely present or not, but there is no doubt that the media left us with the impression that he “trafficked” women sexually which he indicates is far from not only truth, but more telling to me accusation. Perhaps he is lying or perhaps not concerning this criminality, but with that said his cultural observations which he argues have translated into political subversion and corruption were insightful and spot on from my perspective. I don’t view this interview as reflecting a lack of judgment on Tucker’s part.
The tell is the timing. The stuff from the first video was old and compiled by VICE. Some clips were played more than once in the compilation. It’s emotional manipulation. He appears to be answering questions but we don’t know what those questions were do we? And you can see from the Tucker interview (and others!) that he likes to tell stories to illustrate points. How much of what he said was illustrative and how much was factual? We can’t know because it’s a “clip show” not a documentary.
Not everyone, not even myself, knows when they are being manipulated. But there are tells when you look back at them. The first tell is “look at this first, then watch the next one.” Because if you watched out of order, you might have seen (felt) something very different. That’s how you know when you’re being manipulated.
“Not everyone, not even myself, knows when they are being manipulated. ”
It’s easy to tell you are attempting to manipulate people, by trying to whitewash the sickness of Tate as being old news and comparing him to Trump. Both are invalid and easy to see through.
Tate is evil. Nothing more need be said.
First, I did watch the first video.
My impression is that the brilliant and most talented Rush Limbaugh,
who I listened to daily from 1989 until his death,
made a few mistakes in his career, but was 99% correct.
I’ve watched Tucker religiously; and his instincts seem as sound as Rush’s.
This one may have simply been to garner some followers to Twitter & his new platform.
I still give Tucker the benefit of the doubt.
Rush, was that the guy that told us for years that it wasn’t time to panic? We should have been panicking decades ago. Rush was all about $$$ -for Rush.
I hate to say anything negative about Rush, but he could never see through the Bush family nor the evil path Bush, Sr was putting the country on.
Watched the first couple of minutes, disturbing.
This article serves a great secondary purpose. It highlights the number of users that only read headlines and then react in the comments section.
You cannot compare a 15 second out of context video clip to 6 minutes of Tate explaining, in his own words, the exact opposite of what he told Tucker.
Good luck hanging your hat on that.
Don’t know much about this Tate guy but it seems his following is geared towards young men, probably masculine and more likely to be conservative. I won’t pretend to know if his morals are in check but honestly there isn’t a perfect human walking around and many who go astray find themselves back later in life. So to the extent his message helps young men not lose their identity and he’s not out commiting blatant acts of violence or deceit I’m still holding my judgement. The fact that it appears to be organized political persecution makes me pause even more.
With a few minor changes to his business model, Tate could have done well as a Hollywood producer.
Most normal people would be hard pressed to defend this creep.
Musk isn’t going anywhere and neither is Twitter. Unfortunately, there is also no way to determine if Twitter will ultimately be a good or bad thing at this point.
Twitter and Meta want to become the Wechat of the U.S. Wechat is the “everything” app in China, you can chat, post videos, shop and process payments within the app. Processing payments is the holy grail for each application, once that gets enabled, they can skim a little off of every transaction just like a bank. Centralizing activity like this is probably not a good thing since it would make it simpler to introduce a Social Credit System.
The differences between Meta and Twitter aren’t as large as you might think. Pessimist point of view here, they’re both probably bad.
It’s hard not to notice how much income Musk gets because of his government connections through EVs and Satellites. IMHO the jury is still out on him.
Andrew Tate is a douche and has been asking for it for a while now. His cocky posting on social media was the equivalent of putting a kick me sign on his own back.
The fact that he’s famous show how large the dearth of male role models has become. It was a bad choice on Tucker’s part but since his competition is so awful I doubt it will hurt him.
LOVE^^^^^
Tucker is a Trojan horse…offered to destroy the Trump campaign and voters…
TBH I have not followed the Andrew Tate story
Listened to the whole interview. There must be something I’m missing. I know God’s Word is true because of Jesus Christ His Son. Is Tate’s word true about his own innocence? I will be praying for discernment this morning.
If you just watched the interview, then you are probably confused. If the other video of Tate is true, then Tate is a masterful malevolent, LIAR.
This makes no sense. Why are we attacking Tucker for an interview?
Sorry, Not Sorry. I am just not interested in watching any length video of sit down one on one interviews Joe Rogan style by Tucker or anyone else. Just not interested.
Agree! I was scratching my head over this one I barely knew who Andrew Tate was. I still don’t trust Tucker, especially after the audio remerged of him saying he hated Trump.
He like MeAgain Kelly now recognize Trump’s greatness? If they are so smart why didn’t they recognize what Trump represented from the beginning?
They didn’t because they are self absorbed soulless ghouls that blow with the wind.
Tate is really stupid to have bragged about his crimes on video.
He is even more stupid to have videoed himself beating the girls.
He is going to have a real hard time in court trying to defend himself with all those videos backing up the criminal allegations.
But hey, maybe it is all okay in his mind, since he follows the wrong book. I have always wondered how good Muslims can be A-Okay with doing horrible things.
For Christians, it makes you a horrible person. You can repent, stop sinning, and be saved. Or you can deny the bible, but that really means you deny Christ and the Father.
Color me confused. I’m not a person who believes that women always tell the truth and men are always bad or vice versa. I’ve seen enough doctoring of facts to have trouble believing anything I see online anymore. My trust gage is pretty much empty. Trump is my sole trustworthy person. I do know what I see and what I hear are not always what is. So, since I’m not privileged with the whole facts of the situation I will remain only confused. As for Tucker, I have not been one to trust him and, going on twitter, did not help me trust him more.
After what Tucker has been through, you could understand why he could be sympathetic to the story of a commentator under attack.
I couldn’t watch that entire video. That guy is absolute garbage. Shame on Tucker
He has daughters, right?