CTH has said for a year the Achilles heel Ron DeSantis carries, the weak spot that outlines his neocon nature, becomes extremely visible on the subject of Ukraine.
Twice previously, DeSantis has tried to walk the tightrope and navigate his lies surrounding the Ukraine war. Each time he outlines something that leans toward Ukraine needing to concede to Russia and NATO needing to stop meddling on Russia borders, he immediately walks back his comments. DeSantis is stuck on the issue of Ukraine because DeSantis cannot be honest about his position on Ukraine.
Today in South Carolina [Forbes got the state wrong in the title] the issue of Ukraine surfaced in a public Q&A (video below), and both times DeSantis ducked, obfuscated, distracted and refused to answer the question. The second person asked more directly, “What are you going to do about the war in Ukraine?”, because DeSantis never answered the first questioner. WATCH [prompted to 01:08:23]
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Only Donald Trump has the solution to the Ukraine war. (1) Stop NATO, namely U.S. created, from provoking nonsense antagonisms on Russia’s border; and (2) Force Zelenskyy to the negotiation table of reality. The Ukraine war stops immediately the day after the 2024 election, if Trump wins.
However, Ron DeSantis cannot take that attitude or foreign policy approach. DeSantis must maintain the approved Republican pro-war narrative as outlined by Democrats, Republicans, UniParty, and the DC political leadership writ large. The DC position on the Ukraine war is all about money; DeSantis must maintain that policy.
🇺🇦 Dancing around Ukraine
🇨🇳 Deflect to China pic.twitter.com/a49FBja9qQ— miguelifornia (@miguelifornia) June 22, 2023
DeSantis is the king of all scumbags.
How so? Seriously?? Half the country is filthy Democrats who would be happy to see this nation destroyed. And you can honestly say DeSantis is a King of all those Scumbags???
Yes, traitorous sacks of sh!t are much worse than openly declared enemies. Traitors like DeSantis are cowards who like to stab you in the back at the most inopportune time. Think McStain or Paul Ryno.
YES. DeSanctimonious is. He is trying to Disguise what he is.
He’s trying to “sugar” it over.
His answer seemed rehearsed.
I wouldn’t go that far just yet. At this time, I would still give that title to Mike Pompeo.
So the short answer is nothing.
Not exactly correct. Oh, he’ll do something alrighty he just doesn’t want you to know what that’s “something” is going to be.
Let’s just say at this point that DeSantis isn’t Presidential material…not Presidential enough. Isn’t that what they said about Trump.
Well, he had a great job as Governor of Florida and he was pretty good at handling a Pandemic; so good in fact, he caught the attention of the Trump Hate Group (THG) and his honey spot as Governor became his worst nightmare.
I bet his bank account is tied to this mission he is on. I don’t think he really thinks he can become president but he sure aims to become something. The tea leaves are scattered on this one.
Rob fired a key election official in/around Miami early in his first term. A move toward election integrity. Good for him. He won reelection by 18 points. Are the two connected? I think so.
Is it hard to do ‘Trump things,’ in a Trump-loving state like FL? Nope, just listen to the voters and they’ll let you know. Rob’s problem now is that he’s not listening to voters, but the RGA and CFG. This is why he keeps sinking in the polls.
All these GOP rat bastards (GA, WI, MI, PA) who didn’t fix their election integrity issues will be crushed by the cheat from here to eternity. They had a chance but either had no backbone or lost their will to fight. THe jury is still out on AZ, but time is running low.
And then he turns around and mingles with attorneys representing Dominion. And if the allegations by Mike Lindell are true, he may have even rigged his own re-election.
DeSantis campaigned today with the legal office that represented Dominion Voting Systems
https://americasvoice.news/video/Z84r9WuPjQlzGz1/
5:19 – 7:20 Raheem Kassam nails it
Interesting that a lot of commenters in the Twitter thread noticed the same thing I did. DeFraud wants an Oriental NATO, in addition to keeping the EU one.
More MIC makes the neocons very happy.
MAGA must send this DeCeitful grifter back to FL.
I picked up on that immediately when Meatball said it.
With a straight face. 🙄
Florida doesn’t want him.
The last time the US tried to do that (SEATO) it collapsed.
The only reason to do that again is to foment conflict over Taiwan.
Taiwan: the East Asian equivalent to Ukraine.
“Fraud wants an Oriental NATO, in addition to keeping the EU one. More MIC makes the neocons very happy.”
THIS is what people should be talking about when discussing DeSantis and China.
He just proposed a Pacific version of NATO!!!! Another unaccountable world organization (funded by US)? Stick a fork in him…
Miguelifornia is absolutely torturing meatball and Jill Casey with his song parodies. They hate him. Lol
And then he calls on CNN for a softball question.
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War in Ukraine…..
This is how I will always remember Ukraine
—Christina Pushaw
The lady with the ‘constructed’ bio that doesn’t match timelines with her purported age.
And now runs the campaign of Meatball.
Wonder who her real employer is?
Things that make you go, hmmm 🤔.
She works for George Soros.
Remember that George Soros was the first to endorse Ron Desantis for President…
Zelensky’s tongue in her mouth gave her chills.
Especially since Christina knew where it had been.
I watched Kari lake on the Eric Bolling Show (another MAGA who got sabotaged by a series of “coincidences”) and she used the term Sundance & the Treehouse often uses to describe the fake republican side of the political theater dialectics “Uniparty”. I wonder if Miss Lake is a Treehouse reader? regards mate. Great stuff as usual. I hope you like my Rubio Robot memes.
I’d like to think so. She is far too sharp not to be.
Oh yeah, thats good to know.
Zelensky hits up everyone for cash, even Hollywood.
What do these two guys have in common? What is most important to these two guys?
Answers: playacting, fame and recognition, money, and (with a hushed voice) drugs.
Can’t talk Drugs without talking Human Trafficking, Counterfeiting, et al
Do they both PLAY the piano?
Duh Santis
that works
Ron Ducksantis
Dom!n!onsantis?
Ron DeKakis
DeSoros.
Whadda PUTZ! #DePutz
That Air Force veteran watches too much fake news.
Hes “deeply concerned about our future freedom in Ukraine”
Not surprised he would be there at an event to listen to the Meatball. Probably paid too.
If he comes my way I can’t wait to go and snarl at him, if I could stand being in the same room w/him. Hard enough watching a few minutes of video.
No, Pence is the Putz.
It just fits Judas, too well.
Blessed are the peace makers, for they are the sons of God.
Do republicans know that the USA killed between 4-11M civilians since 1990, in over 100 military actions?
Putin hasn’t killed millions of people. We have.
Nevertheless DeSantis is calling for increase hegemony. That’s evil.
Does the hapless air force guy in the video know Ukraine is filled to the brim with nazi sympathizers? Maybe up to 50% of the population?
I’m sick of stupid republicans pretending not to know.
I’m sick of stupid republicans suddenly having light bulb moments as in still believing there is a Republican Party.
Maybe off topic but when I read or hear “Republican Party” I think of the following. The dimwits renamed “Presidents Day” holiday to Washington’s Birthday. Then we add “Juneteenth”. How ironic is it that they wipe out Lincoln in the picture, the first Republican President that sacrificed his life to emancipate the slaves. Next they’ll print O’bozo’s image on the five dollar bill.
dinglebarry will be the face on the $3 bill !
Budda dum splish 🥁
More like the WallStreet Party.
Lindsey must nearly pee his pants with glee at the thought of all those dead civilians. He and Bill Gates must get all giggly together.
Amen you are spot on about America’s killing in other countries. God Bless.
I give DeSantis credit for not caving to the Putin and Russia must be destroyed crowd! While, Sundance is correct that DeSantis dodged the question he stuck to his guns that the US border comes first and hinting that Europe is responsible for Ukraine!
Clearly, DeSantis isn’t pandering to the Neocons and Bolsheviks that hate an Orthodox Christian Russia!
I don’t give him credit. I think DeSantis is just slow, doesn’t understand any issues in Ukraine, and knows his gut instinct is the neocon position of get us in deeper so he just dances. He doesn’t really care about the US border above Ukraine. It’s the W version of a more humble foreign policy, except Neocon Ron doesn’t have a daddy that was president.
I trust Pat, I don’t trust his and our enemies that control the Council On Foreign Relations media and the illegitimate criminal government.
Xi puts China first too.
So does the Council On Foreign Relations
The CFR puts neocon/neolib hegemony first.
The Deep State doesn’t care about Putin’s stance on social issues as much as the fact that he rules the largest country in the Eurasian Heartland.
They would be just about as determined to take him out even if he were a total degenerate.
God Bless President Vladimir Putin and the Russian people. They love their Faith and Country first. Praying for them. Bog vas Blagoslovio i Blagodario. Slava Ocu i Sinu! Amin!
Huh! This simple Canadian sees right through the fraud Desanctus.
The jeans and sports jacket look is 🤮
Our sons are snappy dressers and in challenging and rewarding careers and are sharp dressers.
I showed them a picture of the fool and they laughed out loud.
Seriously the guy is a lightweight…interestingly the most powerful country in the West has had a number of truly pitiful and weak leaders of late.
Sans President Trump.
“Dress for success” popped into my mind as I read your post, Dempster.
I agree with you about the way too casual jeans & sports jacket look for a candidate aspiring to be President. What message is that candidate proclaiming about his attitude concerning the job?
Now Kari Lake dresses for success, every single time she appears and speaks in public. Her attitude about high office-holding, responsibility, and leadership is clear: RESPECT.
RDS is pandering to the SC low country crowd.
Their Summer dress habits include jeans or casual trousers, shirts with no ties, blazers, and slip on shoes with no socks.
Would have been interesting to have seen his footwear with pants pulled up.
The deep staters pander to the low/no-info folks who don’t realize they’re being pandered to…the same types that voted for Biden and Fetterman.
The low country crowd is entirely comfortable in casual business attire.
A rule of thumb I was taught was to always dress on the high end of the crowd. Don’t ever be the most casual in the crowd.
At the very least in this situation, a blue blazer and khakis would have been minimally appropriate.
Sounds like they dress like Jacksonvillers..
100 degree weather with 90% humidity merits casual trousers
Right, jeans and a jacket is what I wear to a business casual meeting and dinner. Not a formal interview..such as a campaign.
Yes.
PDJT always has a suit and tie on unless he’s on a golf course. He wears a suit and tie and the common people still love him. He does not have to pretend to be “one of them” in order to apply for the job of saving the economic future of this country and their lives.
Wearing a suit and tie demonstrates that PDJT is taking this whole endeavor seriously.
PDJT is the man for the job.
Prescient
No, you dope,..sorry nothing personal, Joe.
Its the sentiment you express.
The REASON RDS is stuck on an answer for Ukraine, is he is TRYING to pander to US, which is why he is leaning towards the PDJT answer.
Except he can’t go full throated in that direction, not with “everybody” (RNC/GOPe, DNC, all of Congress, MSM, etc.) all repeating the ’till thecladt Ukranian! line.
So he ducks, evades, mumbles and stumbles while trying to hint that he is leaning in the MAGA direction.
He is no MAGA, and it shows.
He ALSO intends to DROP all Tariffs against CHINA.
And, Dutch, the fact RDS is doing this demonstrates not only is he a Uniparty hack, he is also a bonfide coward.
RDS is blatantly not MAGA.
He ducked the question by responding with that.
The question was very clear, what are you going to do about Ukraine?
Why can’t he answer that DIRECT question instead of deflecting?
Our border had nothing to do with the question.
DeSantis is pandering to the uniparty because they like wars too.
DeSantis is showing his true neocon colors.
He’s lying, bro!
RDS employed the, “Hey, look, a squirrel” routine. Obviously, they keep doing that because it works on some people, especially those in California.
Not just Cali. Look to your left. Then look to your right. Look behind you and in front. 2/3 of those also buy it.
The audience clapped at his answer. Ugh.
You mean the absurdly small audience?
He was asked twice what he plans to DO about the war in Ukraine. Both of his responses were that this is not a priority for him. IOW, the Ukraine war will continue on in the background and he’s not going to do anything to end it. Period.
Ukraine is not a priority to Ron DeSantis. It is the Permanent War Party’s latest profit center and it will not be touched.
A President needs to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Contrast his answer with Trump’s which is “I will end the war in 24 hours.”
People ask Trump “how?” But we already know how. He will make it clear that Ukraine is not joining NATO and he will stop the gravy train. We’ll get MONTHS of “we can’t abandon our allies!” from the neocons (eg Syria), and some false flag attacks, and they’ll try to resume the gravy train. When that fails, war with China will be pushed.
Ending the war in Ukraine is not a priority for DeSantis. Notice he never actually says that the $trillion we’ve spent in Ukraine should have been spent deporting illegals and building the wall INSTEAD. And he never says that the war in Ukraine is basically a huge money laundering operation for the Government Party. Those are facts.
I recently realized that most of the weapons of war around the world are manufactured in the United States at companies such as Lockheed Martin…
I’m wondering if maybe we should shut down our war manufacturing industry(after re-arming our military supplies a final time of course)… to deprive criminals around the world of high quality weapons of war?
Wouldnt that make things easier for us in the longterm if we stop allowing our high quality weapons to be sold illegally?
That’s hilarious. You should do stand up comedy.
“Clearly, DeSantis isn’t pandering to the Neocons and Bolsheviks that hate an Orthodox Christian Russia!”
No, it’s just the neocons (and neolibs) who hate Russia. The Bolsheviks don’t support Putin but they much prefer him over Western domination.
BTW, you must’ve missed the time DeSantis called Putin a “war criminal” just days after telling Tucker Carlson that he would stay out of the conflict.
The harder ronnie tries to make believe he’s an America First candidate, the more his answers betray him. His answers are as hollow, as the man himself.
As paper shell airy cellulose leavings of Eaten Wood, thin as the wings of some insects
Man I wish this cat had the stones to come hold a Q&A rally here in North Central Florida..
Ha yeah, I’d be there.
Somehow I am sure we’d bump into each other!
Yes, the Bidenesque Turnout being so underwhelming….
This reminds me of Little Marco circa 2016. He just has a canned answer he is going to spew out no matter what the question actually is.
Why doesn’t DeSantis just lie? Give him credit for dancing around the question. If I were him I’d be like W and just lie and promise a more humble foreign policy knowing you have no intentions of following through on that promise.
His masters know he’s a neocon. He should just lie about it.
Also that voice gets more annoying with every passing day. No wonder he’s dropping like a stone. He’s just not a likable person and his voice is like fingernails on the chalkboard.
It’s pretty obvious to me that DeSantis suffers from autism. Has he ever been diagnosed?
Rubio Robot which Kushner jailer Christie exposed on stage and sunk him. That was hilarious the “canned” response. Shows how much of what they speak comes from puppet masters behind the curtain.
The other piece of this is we know he’s lying about the border, too. He’s using the border to duck Ukraine. By ducking Ukraine, he’s admitting that his position on the border is ALSO a lie.
“It’s pretty obvious to me that DeSantis suffers from autism. Has he ever been diagnosed?”
There are plenty of likable politicians who were/are on the spectrum. I can name two off the bat: Thomas Jefferson and Charles DeGaulle.
If DeSantis is autistic, his condition isn’t why he’s the way he is.
This is coming from a guy who himself is on the spectrum, BTW.
Given the recent OMG undercover video of the Blackrock recruiter, it seems clear DeSanctus agrees that war is fu^%king good for business.
I can say this an enlisted Vetran, who earned my degree while serving….RDS was a fork and knife military officer….so yes, he knows exactly how good war is for his donations and donors. Just ask Miley.
Miley Virus?
Or Thoroughly Modern Milley?
But the questions are:
What are the real reasons the US is pumping the Ukraine conflict?
What does any of it have to do with “US National Defense”?
How about all the money going to our Defense industry to supply Ukraine 🤷🏻♂️
🇺🇸💪😀👍
That has GUTTED our own Military….
A pure, unadulterated long term hatred for anything Russian, particularly as it relates to that geographical area by some.
Nothing to with “US National Defense” other than the profits that can be made off of it.
Catherine the Great took over the Crimea because Russia needed its ports in order to have a large Russian navy to impose Russia’s policy:
“Naval power has always played a crucial role in shaping the dynamics of global geopolitics. From securing trade routes to projecting influence across vast oceans, navies serve as vital assets for nations worldwide.”
https://fairbd.net/most-powerful-navies-in-the-world/#:~:text=The%20top%2010%20most%20powerful,the%20dynamics%20of%20global%20geopolitics.
The West has always worked actively to deny Russia this asset. I think Russia has grown tired of being the third largest navy in the world, and I believe they’re going to have a navy to rival the US and China. It’s the power vacuum we created that Russia will inevitably fill.
We have to give up on our dreams of world domination, and I suspect the RDS crowd is having a difficult time accepting that fact. Notice that the room is filled with Baby Boomers whose lives were consumed with the US hegemony.
It’s amazing how many people just don’t get it…but hey, they have Passion Island to watch. Or Real Housewives. Or new croc bags to buy…or…you get it.
Russia does not have a Rothschild owned central bank, that is the reason for war.
They pumped it because they deluded themselves into thinking they could destroy Putin by destroying Russia with sanctions.
They failed to destroy either.
They are still pumping the conflict because they can’t admit defeat. No matter how much land Putin takes or how many Ukrainians die fighting Putin, they cannot admit they lost.
Desperately trying to salvage Ukraine, we have turned ourselves into Ukraine’s arsenal, and turned this war into an East vs West conflict. This makes Ukraine’s defeat the West’s defeat.
And to prevent our defeat, we keep edging ever closer to going to war with Russia. We are already past the stage of sending advisors. And Ukraine is running out of fodder to feed the Russian cannons.
But we don’t have the ability to keep ourselves supplied in an active war against Russia, let alone keeping Ukraine supplied. So all our efforts are doomed.
Something must stop this insane descent to war between nuclear powers, war we are destined to lose, making us the most likely first side to use nukes.
But we are also the sole reason why peace talks can’t proceed. We must destroy Putin. So we pump away.
As to national defense. We are even more insane. It boils down to expanding our hegemony over the world or else the world will conquer us.
It’s a rinse and repeat of the Vietnam war all over again…..
What JFK did before US entered Vietnam war:
In May 1961, JFK authorized sending an additional 500 Special Forces troops and military advisors to assist the pro Western government of South Vietnam. By the end of 1962, there were approximately 11,000 military advisors in South Vietnam; that year, 53 military personnel had been killed.
https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teachers/curricular-resources/military-advisors-in-vietnam-1963#:~:text=In%20May%201961%2C%20JFK%20authorized,military%20personnel%20had%20been%20killed.
Four years later, the US formally entered into the war.
PROTECTION for Lab and Human Trafficking business just below the border of Russia.
A d R¯NA Crohn’s “Intestinal Disease”… If you can translate that jumble…. (lack of Fortitudinal Integrity) – a Formula of Great Importance to One-Worlders, like Pelosi and Hillary, and Soros.
Maybe a little off-topic, but does Dandy-Boy Ron shave his forearms? For real?
He’s a little pudgy to be fussing over forearm hair, yes?
<Maybe a little off-topic, but does Dandy-Boy Ron shave his forearms?>
Hairless forearms poll well 🙂
Bwaahahaha!
Navy guys..
Ummm, I’m a Navy guy, and I have never shaved my forearms. Us squids are guilty of many things but don’t lump us in with Ron. Ron was an ass kissing officer. He wasn’t in the real Navy.
Roger that, sir. My family is linked to service in alll 3 Branches. I have listened to cousins bash each others branch for decades.
More and more I am becoming seriously frustrated by the deflection of war-mongering toward China. That is what DeSantis is doing – stoking Americans’ anger toward China, despite the obvious fact that the US is purposefully provoking China and despite the obvious fact that it is our country that would suffer terribly from a conflict with China.
Our current weapons systems are being proven vulnerable in Ukraine and would not be any more effective against China. China owns $870 billion of our debt. We are extremely reliant on China for their manufacturing capability – necessary drugs, medical equipment, food additives, resources, and technology. Yesterday Raytheon stated that they relied on China for so many parts of their weapons systems, that if the US went to war against China, China would have to continue to supply the missile parts we would need to fight them. Ridiculous!
So, all the rhetoric against China is empty words to stoke emotion that overcomes common sense and logical examination. It’s a “Look over there – bad people, dictators, spies….”
War with China is like Dom!n!on suing Fox at this point!
Great comparison. Excellent.
I value your opinion, your a great poster, but always keep in mind that China’s rise was directly due to the Council on Foreign Relations treasonous and criminal actions like their selling America “Free Trade” which enabled China to use that massive trade deficit against us, while giving them our technology. If you have read my previous posts, China is debt enslaving Africa, and that was enabled by the CFR orchestrated betrayals of numerous once Christian pro-western nations in Africa, being destroyed. Africa will be the main source for the “Spice” of the schlock/Flintstone Green energy they want to destroy our civilization with. Its been betrayal after betrayal. China is their NWO. We handed Africa over to China with the blood of millions of our Christian brothers & sisters.
We once had Christian allies and friends there but our “elites” betrayed them and they are all gone.
There is a difference between what China is doing and what the US and EU have been doing in Africa. The accusations of the US and EU that China is making African nations debt slaves is the pot calling the kettle black.
Chinese loans for the building of port facilities helps those countries with trade. Increasing trade will allow those countries to pay back those loans and help enrich the country in general. At the same time, trade is beneficial to a manufacturing power like China.
On the other hand, US and IMF loans to Africa had to be paid back in dollars with the country’s resources sold at a discount to multinational corporations. The US and IMF loans impoverish the country and steal their resources at pennies on the dollar, which the western globalists love.
In addition, the US puts all kinds of conditions on its loans. Must allow LGBTQ propaganda. Must use green energy. Can’t produce your own fertilizer because it would go against green energy agenda. Women’s rights and destruction of traditional religions. Allow the US to interfere in your elections. Kill any leaders (Gaddafi, for example) that goes against a country’s servitude to the dollar. Stir up conflicts to get more resources.
China on the other hand does not interfere in elections, in cultural affairs of the people. They want to sell their goods and be able to buy resources, land, mines, etc. And they don’t insult African countries like Ukraine did by saying the leaders were too stupid to understand the Ukraine-Russia situation.
I agree with Belles point.
Both the IMF/World bank, and CCP are gangsters, in a loan shark business, as well as a “protection racket”.
Its World Government by theocracy, its two different mafia ‘familys’ “going to the mattresses” and there are no good guys, except PDJT.
I think both of you have valid points, but bear in mind that China does make debt slaves out of African countries. They have already ‘foreclosed’ on the assets of many countries there ie rails, ports, broadcasting networks, etc just as they did in Sri Lanka about a year or so ago.
And while not making public comments about African leaders, it has been reported many times that the Chinese in Africa are very dismissive and show great contempt for the natives.
Just like Britain.
How did China get all of this wealth? Through those CFR engineered dirty, criminal, disastrous & treasonous “Free Trade” deals that pat Buchanan warned about for decades (even running as a pre-Trump/Maga candidate). The rise of China and demise of America has been planned and a controlled demolition spanning decades. As I said previously, we once had friends in Africa, no longer because they have been destroyed using similar tactics they are using on America, Australia, NZ, Canada, EU etc
The Han Chinese are the most virulently racist people on the planet.
Do not disagree with some of your argument, but —
China = fentanyl over the border, technology theft, organ trafficing, dangerous border crossers, hollowing American cities by destroying American production, and that is a quick list right off the top without a deep dive.
“China = fentanyl over the border”
For some reason I suspect it’s actually the CIA who’s behind the fentanyl.
With respect Belle China has been interfering in American elections with the blessings of the Council On Foreign Relations for years. And what you speak of in regards to Babylonian LGBTQ has to do with the purposeful demolition of America. Back to CFR Bush’s NWO. Rise of China, demise of America. You know “Free Trade” which killed America economically.
And the UK/US/UN helped put this China owned mass murdering dictator in power. NWO=China, demise of America by the CFR. China buys its first African colony for a meagre $40 million
https://capx.co/china-buys-its-first-african-colony-for-a-meagre-40million/
NWO rise of China, decline of America. George Soros is a former Director at the Council On Foreign Relations with a lifetime membership.
Of course the Chinese interfere in elections. But the rest is true.
The World Bank and IMF has “invested” in boondoggle projects favoring multinationals since the 70s. The Chinese have more sensible projects, but they also use those projects to make the country dependent on them and their loans who then favor the Chinese in trade.
The Chinese don’t use multinationals. They use Chinese companies that import hundreds of Chinese to work on the projects, displacing Africans from any but the most menial work in those jobs.
Both are bad models from the African pov. I don’t think Africa has benefitted from any of this “investment “ as much as the investing country has.
I once read that most of the people the neocons have been killing in foreign wars are Christians.
We go to war w/either Russia or China we get creamed, they will kick our butts. I rarely, if ever read the stuff like it is the American gov’t and not the people. Globally people are hating on both the gov’t and us, I find that disconcerting. I want to scream, don’t hate me, hate the gov’t, I don’t like their crap either.
I think you are entirely correct about China hating the people and our government; Russia, on the other hand, I think just hates our government.
Russia knows that the populace of the US has been brainwashed and our government hijacked, and pre-Soviet Union, helped the US multiple times.
Their people looked to our people when the Soviet Union fell and see what is happening now.
Agree or disagree, the truth is, their unseen enemy is our enemy (Banksters). And they have hinted that many times if you listen carefully what they have publicly stated several times over the last decade or so, very cryptically.
War wise, we have more to fear from China. They are trying to conquer us.
Russia has no such ambition. If we leave them alone, they will leave us alone. They do not have the capacity, nor population base to carry an offensive war overseas, ie invade the US.
China, on the other hand, does and has been. And is making moves under Belt and Road to foster the logistics chain required to do just that. Possible fifth column infiltration through border.
Capacities:
Russia – superior weaponry and abundance of it to include manufacturing base for it, superior leadership and strategic planning (their general staff is as good as it gets); and willingness to use it if they feel their existence is threatened (national memory). Offensive capacity limited due to population and lack of naval size and logistics to carry out.
The claims of their imperialism is BS. Outside of Syria, an extension of their soft underbelly, just where is all of this imperialism taking place?
Since their communist overlords were overthrown, where outside of the former USSR republics and Syria have they shown aggressiveness?
China – quality of weaponry unknown; population and size of military overwhelming, naval power growing, satellite support facilities using Belt and Road established and growing.
China is the threat!
Yes, we should be afraid of China, but not militarily. Its danger lies in our own greed, our lack of patriotism and character. Our property and our every virtue are for sale. Our institutions debauched. Our values subverted by immorality and instant gratification. Our enormous debt to supply our government’s every whim. Our corporations and banks focused only on the greatest profits and control of markets. China will buy us, strip us, and annihilate us, using ourselves as their weapon.
What you describe is a military operation- psyop warfare, cyber warfare, bio warfare, economic warfare, espionage that is all coordinated.
It is a reflection of Eastern warfare philosophy – Sun Tzu – defeat your enemy without open (physical) hostility.
All of these actions are designed and controlled by a central source – military general staff.
Spot on. The east is patient in war. It’s why their dynasties last centuries upon centuries. Not weeks or decades.
China doesn’t hate the American people either.
Our government on the other hand, hate the people and government of both China and Russia.
We’re the genocidal ones.
Then why the development of bio weapons?
You mean OUR bioweapons?
I do agree with your point about our government.
Yes, you are correct about our funding and development also. But why participate in development of bio weapons if you are not going to use them? They have a completely dedicated military infrastructure solely to advance just that, larger than ours.
Back to my point, the Chinese could care less about our people. They have stated in the past they need our farmland.
Has it occurred that both governments may want to our population culled?
The Permanent War Party knows the profit center in Ukraine is winding down. This is all preparation of the battle space for where they plan to set up shop next.
“So, all the rhetoric against China is empty words to stoke emotion that overcomes common sense and logical examination.”
No, it isn’t. They actually do want war with China. And for completely selfish reasons.
Read “The Grand Chessboard” to understand why.
My PEACE bumper sticker has been getting honks and waves on the highway in northern Ohio. People are starting to get it.
I am mid forties and we have been “at war” or “about to be at war” since I was 12 it seems.
Daraleck, it’s derelict. Where does he get his accent from? He always sounds like he is reading a bedtime story, or something, like he is talking to little kids.
I am waiting for him to blurt out “supposebly” ..
I hope to heaven above that DeSantis never is put in place as head of this country. He is definitely no diplomat. His attitude toward and words about Vladimir Putin would not bring about any peace agreement and would be likely to cause great harm to this country.
Is it too much to ask someone who is running to be our Chief Diplomat to call the leader of the largest country in land area and the richest country in recoverable resources by his correct title or name – instead of using it as a dirty word to direct attention from his non-answer?
DeSantis tries to pull a rabbit from his hat, but like Bullwinkle he has the wrong hat.
Seriously, this is how I will always remember Yugoslavia… I mean Ukraine
Should read “Zelenski auction night”
Ron DeSantis Supported Ukraine Aid, Compared Himself to Reagan
The Florida Governor was a staunch supporter of American involvement in Ukraine’s war effort before claiming to oppose it.
https://nationalfile.com/ron-desantis-supported-ukraine-aid-compared-himself-to-reagan/
He also sent Florida National Guard troops to train Ukrainian neo-Nazi regiments at FL tax payers’ expense. Then sent them back for a re-union in April, 2022 after the conflict started.
So, it wasn’t just verbal support.
Nice, Belle!
Do you have a link on that?
I’d like to post that else where.
Swamp Rat in Training.🐀
Time runs out with Desanctus tied with himself 47-47.
Asked twice about ukraine. Answered twice about our border. Did he borrow Brandon’s brain???
They’re trying to re-fight the 2015-16 election in which they got DESTROYED on illegal immigration.
They’re using the border to try and sound like Trump. But when he dodged Ukraine he reminds everyone that his statements about the border are also lies.
The eGOP forgets that Trump exposed the Boehner/Ryan Republicans as frauds and liars about the border. He got elected, and they fought Trump. Paul Ryan resigned to allow impeachment because he knew all his lies were being outed.
Ask DeSantis anything the Globalists oppose (eg tariffs, Ukraine, etc) and you’ll get a deflection to the border.
They haven’t figured out yet that the 2024 election is about GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION. Abuse of power. Bribery. Ukraine (but I repeat myself). Phony elections. COVID lies. Etc, etc.
Notice the one audience member thanks DeSantis for the “woke” discussion. That idiot doesn’t realize that Ron DeSantis doesn’t care about “woke” either. It’s a tool to distract.
DeSantis isn’t a good establishment candidate or campaigner. Don’t know he’ll ever be. He gets asked a question twice and he’s like, “THIS GUY JUST ASKED ME THAT”. Go back and watch Bill Clinton answer people’s questions by comparison. Both establishment candidates but one was good at it.
good question, Stew👇
Losing argument by Mr. Peters. Now for a WINNING argument by G-Pol:
At the end of the day, Putin and Zelensky are both corrupt thugs who run their countries like their own personal fiefdoms. Neither are good role models for our leadership to emulate. Nonetheless, we should be working to resolve their differences instead of exploiting them, not because we like them but because it’s the right thing to do. That is all.
Here’s the deal. No one manages Trump but Trump. No waffling. There is no doubt where President Trump stands on all issues.
OTOH, everything RdS says and does is poll tested and managed, thus his policies are aligned with a weather vane depending on which way the wind is blowing at any particular time.
I’m going with Agenda 47.
He could have been a real star but he lacked courage and in the end is found not only disloyal but a very hollow man
Not sure about that. The only thing he has in common with a real “star” is his vacuous phoniness. There’s no charisma, no sharp wit, or intellect for that matter, and he’s certainly not any good at reading the script.
Poor America, buried in layers of deception.
Putin, the ‘bad guy’ is defending his borders against NATO encroachment and existential peril in the manner that our leaders (the good guys I presume?) refuse to do for us. In short, he’s acting as an authentic national leader and should evoke envy more than enmity.
With a little bit of luck, he might even help unburden us of the Deep State, since our good guys, Durham et al, are powerless to. Wouldn’t that be nice?
DeSanitarium’s bosses, transnational capital, want a non-border to help equilibrate global labor costs. So it’s doubly ironic he would use our border to deflect from military adventurism in Ukraine.
As for the retired USAF guy, maybe he should step aside from fishing for an afternoon and read Smedley Butler’s ‘War is a Racket’ (1935). It’s a short book and free.
The petrodollar financed the USM which allowed it to exceed the next 10 military budgets, which compelled those nations to attempt to keep up, which necessitated global military expansion, which enriched and empowered the MIC.
Ever try to tell a roomful of patriots, the majority of whom have military backgrounds, that they were (albeit unwittingly) low-level racketeers by Butler’s definition?
The reason this is an unbreachable internal contradiction in the American psyche is because a lot of people gave lives and limbs and displayed AUTHENTIC bravery, nobility and self-sacrifice in what turned to be a heinously INAUTHENTIC enterprise… MIC profit-seeking.
If America can be expressed in Greek tragedian terms, it is THIS marriage of the noble impulse to the ignoble enterprise that is the Fatal Flaw.
Gd willing, the people who facilitated this marriage will rot in hell.
Disclaimer: I have USAF family members.
A vet here….there are millions of us who are well aware of how we have been used. Maybe not the current crop. But those who have ailments such as Gulf Syndrome and negative impacts from being forced to take Anthrax vaccines over and over are well aware of how “WMDs” were used to use us.
And some like me, are well aware, WMDs are not the first and last time the MIC has used and abused our patriotism. It’s why they target us literally poor mid-Western and Southern boys while we are the ages of 16-20. We’re poor. They stole our parent’s and grand parent’s livelihoods (Rustbelt) and use that to get us to go fight for their dollars.
I don’t think he dodged the question…
Sure he did. How many times did he use the word “priority”? 6-12 times?
Ukraine is not a “priority” to Ron DeSantis. Ergo, he is not going to DO anything about it.
When I research a political figure…the very first question I ask; what is their relationship with the Bush Cartel/Bush China Foundation/CIA. They are evil if association is established. DeSantimonious had been in cahoots with them for his whole career.
Thanks for highlighting DeSantis’s accurate terminology: neoconservative.
While it’s mentioned once in a while here, the terms used for him are usually: RINO, GOPe, donor-class, Sea Island, etc.
While those are also accurate, DeSantis is 100% a neoconservative. All the other terms are just less clear ways to describe a neocon.
DeSantis is owned by neocon “donors”.
It seems that some MAGA Americans are still unclear about neocons. Here’s a primer on them and Ukraine:
https://www.other-news.info/ukraine-is-the-latest-neocon-disaster/
“The main message of the neocons is that the US must predominate in military power in every region of the world, and must confront rising regional powers that could someday challenge US global or regional dominance, most important Russia and China. For this purpose, US military force should be pre-positioned in hundreds of military bases around the world and the US should be prepared to lead wars of choice as necessary. The United Nations is to be used by the US only when useful for US purposes.”
Bingo. THAT is what the neocons are about. You get it, but unfortunately a lot of people don’t. When those other people analyze neocons, they often get distracted by other issues like immigration, trade, and Trump. Not all neocons share the same opinion on those other issues, and that fact is often ignored to our peril.
LMAO. Can we all agree that “…yeah, no, Putin’s a bad guy?”
Putin hasn’t invaded a bunch of countries and been responsible for countless deaths and massive destruction, so on the bad guy scale, he’s down the list.
For all of the resources hat the GOP has at it’s command, They are not sending their best and brightest.
Feature, not a bug.
There is only one reason for NATO’s continued existence and expansion into the Pacific, and that is for NATO to become the Global Enforcer of the Global Dictates of the Globalist Fascist Oligarchy.
Remember:
Globalists Create Global Crises to Justify Global Governance!
The same people who gave Trump Russia, Russia, Russia are gifting Meatball Disney, Disney, Disney.
I used to wonder what drove Liz Cheney insane. I don’t anymore. Daddy and she like WAR. They like to see money coming toward the military supply chain and that, my friend, is why Liz had to go. Keep trying sister but we know what she represents…WAR.
Fighting Irrelevant Wars is what some people support. Learn how they think and don’t vote for any of them.
I watched Vietnam and saw the maimed and sick come home. I have watched the drug culture grow for over 60 years as the Communist were not only able to claim victory in war, they introduced drugs to our soldiers who needed relief from the BIG ELEPHANT they were stuck in.
Now, we can all say we watched the same in IRAQ and related activities throughout the world. I won’t list the Bush wars and such here, but war mongers never stop. It is their cash cow.
Now we watch Ukraine. Stop sending our youth to WAR!
he is a simpleton who has memorized the wrong lines.
The battlefield is being shaped. The Uniparty will have to face a public backlash over Ukraine eventually. Trump is biding his time, and will likely let the backlash hit as a force multiplier, before striking out at Uniparty policy here. He’ll probably heap on Biden, and ignore The Meatball unless he’s foolish enough to publicly support Biden. Meatball is an afterthought, and only Lawfare can save him.
“Events, dear boy. Events.” So said the brit long ago, when asked what would shape a new govt’s approach. Trump is a master counter puncher. He knows all about events.
None of the American parties or candidates, including Trump, have a real clue about what is happening because none of them are willing to face the reality that USA is no longer the exceptional unipolar hegemon calling the shots. There is a realignment of nations. The West is a diminishing entity pursuing the wrong political, social and moral principles. Its time is up and neither Trump nor the plethora of real bozos of the uniparty have any solutions.
The real problem is spiritual in nature and the Western leaders with very few exceptions have nothing to offer. As for Trump, he continues to make bombastic statements about the situation in Ukraine and the looming problem of China in Cuba. Unless he were to truly abandon the policies tied to NATO expansionism and the American wars for corporate arms and other profits through the money laundering schemes, his words are empty. Sundance is correct in some of the repercussions that would follow but that’s s why it all seems like tilting at windmilla.
The Purify Brothers provided the Rhonda Santis campaign song.
“Pull the string and I’ll wink at you,
I’m your puppet
I’ll do funny things if you want me to,
I’m your puppet.”
I thought he was right there where it was queued up. He talked about protecting our own borders before worring about Ukraine
We are already supporting (basically ‘in’) Ukraine. That is right now.
A president needs to be able to handle multiple problems at the same time.
He did not state what he would do day one to address the Ukraine problem we have. I call it a problem.
So then what are his plans on dealing with Ukraine? It’s not like it will just go away on its own. He has to deal with it somehow. What are his plans?
OMG – he is so boring. “Please clap”
Meatball and spaghetti speak.
The person asked him a straight forward question and he answered with a typical GOPe non answer word salad. Trump may be like a bull in a China shop, but at least you get what he really thinks and what he will do.
This guy isn’t just a Meatball. He is a GOPe highly processed Meatball armed with clichés to fool ya.
I will take the mean tweets any time over this.
“This guy isn’t just a Meatball. He is a GOPe highly processed Meatball armed with clichés to fool ya.”
I like that analogy. There’s a world of difference between the fresh meatballs you get at Italian restaurants and the generic crap you buy at the grocery store.
For sure, eat at any so-called Italian restaurant in the west, then eat the food in an authentic Italian place in Italy, it is like apples and oranges. Italy the best for their food, just like “Cevapi” in Serbia, compared elsewhere. Now I am hungry, but not for the Meatball in the US running for President. I apologize I digress. Cheers my neighbors, we are screwed.
Sundance why are you so set on forcing Ukraine to capitulate? And why do imagine it would work (you may well bribe Zelensky and his backers into caving, but do you really imagine the Ukrainian populace laying down)?
Look, this war is greatly in our interest. Russia really is the (a actually) evil empire and really does want to rebuild their empire and then conquer the world. Putin has foolishly enabled the West to wage war against him, ON THE CHEAP! Just Treasure, not BLOOD!
And the Treasure part is mostly giving them weapons that are at or near their “sell-by-date” and will need to be replaced anyway.
Is it deficit spending that’s egging you on? Join the club, but these expenditures really are worthwhile.
Yeah, and do you think a Ukraine capitulation would end Russian expansionism? Like Chamberlain did with Hitler?
>Russian expansionism
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Provide detail on this assertion. I can provide 30-40 years of detail on NATO expansionism, although you should know it already.
“Look, this war is greatly in our interest.”
If you just throw enough money at a problem, it will go away, right?
That policy has a spectacular failure rate and absolutely no success rate, but yet you keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
Somebody famous commented about that one time.
I believe our ownership of Ukraine and our making them a client state coupled with a large expansion of NATO makes the US the people engaging in expansionism. Russia is not on our doorstep. We are on Russia’s doorstep and using Ukraine as our proxy.
The globalist NWO needs what Russia has and needs to control those vast resources
The ascendance of Vladimir Putin as Russia’s leader put a halt on the stripping of that country’s resources by the globalists, that is what was taking place in the 1990s after the fall of the Soviet Union.
OMG is that a bunch of rambling incoherent nonsense.
How difficult is it to say that the ‘aid’ to Ukraine ceases immediately when I’m sworn in?
Ron D is going to ‘fix’ our military? What does this mean? That the pentagram will have to learn to live with less, a smaller global footprint, and more accountability? I didn’t hear these things that I want.
He wants more military staff and hardware in the Pacific? So more neocon constant war everywhere mentality. How refreshing (sarc).
And we’re going to be ‘strong’ here at home and that will protect us from all those bad guys constantly trying to get us. I for one would not have been applauding.
Trump is the rare leader who can state simply that Putin is not the devil himself and our mortal enemy. Putin has his hands full with his economy and just is not going to attack the US any time soon (unless we insist on wasting a fortune on this insane losing battle proxy war in Ukraine).
Duh-Sanctus can’t answer honestly because he has NO position!
His position is whatever the Sea Island donors have, and unless he wears an earpiece so they can tell him what to say (like Biden), or he rehearses with them ahead of time, he can’t respond.
He’s a puppet.
I’ve said for a year and a half that DeSantis, my governor, was not dumb enough to run for president against Trump. How wrong I was. He’s even dumber than I thought, allowing himself to be used by the NeoCon RINOs with TDS to continue to hold the Republican Party hostage. MAGA ain’t gonna have it, and we are now the power and drive of the party, not NeoCon scumbag RINOs.
notice he also targeted the “nasty chirpers”?
what normal person uses that expression?
someone on his team came up with one.
If DeSantis wants the grifters’ money, he has to go along with his own grifting.
You scratch my back. I will scratch yours.
It’s really just that simple.
Last night Jack Posobiec hosted Raheem Kassam who detailed DeSantis campaigning today in D.C. with the legal office that represented Dominion Voting Systems and unit: Nancy Pelosi. https://americasvoice.news/video/Z84r9WuPjQlzGz1/ is the first segment of which 5:19 > 7:20 nails it. Speaking only for myself I can’t recall Raheem Kassam being wrong on major points let alone any other. So I went up on National Pulse Plus for more detail and this: https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/06/22/hunter-sent-payment-demand-invoking-dad-joe-to-chinese-communist-official/. And earlier this from of all places the Daily Mail site: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12227091/Hunter-Biden-tax-probe-began-investigation-amateur-porn-ring.html. SCROLL down to the “gallery” and slide over especially to Image 7 of 9. How this creep Biden remains is mind boggling. It is Surreal. Note to the still non-believers… And the Worst Is YET to Come.
Thanks – I actually opened this article with the intention of mentioning that talk between Jack and Raheem. I’m still not certain that Jack gets it on the fraud DeStablishment has been from the beginning (that sundance revealed first) – but Raheem definitely gets it!