The nature of our politically corrupt justice system takes on new clarity today as a jury in New York City decided President Trump did not rape E. Jean Carroll, the crazy moonbat funded by political operatives, but President Trump did defame her in his denial of the accusation. Thus, the jury awards damages to the false accuser, while finding the accused not guilty.
Presumably the position of the jury was that something ‘may have happened‘ because this was not a criminal trial outcome which would be based on “beyond a reasonable doubt” as the standard. Instead, this verdict was based on the possibility that something ‘may have happened,’ albeit not proven, and President Donald Trump was defamatory toward the accuser in his strong denials of the accusation.
The jury awarded $2million in compensatory damages and $20,000 in punitive damages for the battery allegation. The jury awarded $1 million in compensatory damages for the defamation and $1.7million for the repair of her reputation. They awarded another $280,000 in punitive damages for the defamation. (read more)
Keep in mind that New York wrote a new law specifically to provide E Jean Carroll a pathway to file a lawsuit over the allegation that something might have happened sometime in the past, though the accuser could not identify what year President Trump assaulted her. The accuser, a woman of notoriously odd behavior and remarkably unstable mindset, was funded by billionaire LinkedIn founder and very vocal Trump critic, Reid Hoffman.
New York created the new law for Ms. Carroll, Reid Hoffman paid for the legal costs, and Ms. Carroll made her sketchy accusations of something, from sometime, that wasn’t certain to have happened. There were no witnesses to the claimed events, there was no evidence the event took place, there was nothing to indicate Ms. Carroll or Mr. Trump were even in the same place at the same time.
However, the judge in the case permitted the presentation of possibility, then blocked President Trump from speaking about the case, and then instructed the jury to consider that Ms Carroll’s claims may have indeed taken place, at some point – although no evidence exists and no one knows when, not even Ms Carroll.
In any other situation this case would have been thrown out of court for being ridiculous. However, in the modern era where justice is metered by regional public opinion that is based on Lawfare and political motivation, we get this situation. President Trump responded below:
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With all that soon to be empty commercial real estate that nobody wants they can bring in thousands of poor refugees that are seeking sanctuary. Diversity equity and inclusion in action.
NYC does not want them! NYC mayor is trying to bus them upstate!!!
Qued, just press play
“I subpoenaed him because I thought it would be cool to swear him in”
Oh, brother! That is ridiculous. What a waste of money, time and air.
It seems a miscarriage of Justice is the norm now it seems.
Ironically, more energy has been exerted in trying to get the “Orange Man” than prosecuting crimes, like what happened to Kate Steinle’ murder.
And ironically it was PRESIDENT Donald John Trump’s Administration that DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO CORRECT THESE WRONGS!
2024 will be about correcting WRONGS! Pres. Trump is the ONLY Candidate who CARES ABOUT INJUSTICES done to the Forgotten Man and Woman. And he’s the only one who won’t give up!
All the news you see today wants to BREAK YOU make you doubt yourself and Pres. Trump, don’t let the Bastards Gaslight you! Don’t break, don’t give up and stand up tall and proud!
“And ironically it was PRESIDENT Donald John Trump’s Administration that DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO CORRECT THESE WRONGS!”
It is not ironic at all.
The fact that President Trump tried to correct these wrongs is precisely why the legal system has been weaponized against him.
It is ridiculous. All people who supports this, you are in for a big surprise. YOU Not gonna win. You all hate. Trump did more for this country than any president ever….. Hope you can live with your hate. Not gonna be good for you in the end. It’s so wrong. New York, all the illegals coming to you, millions of them. DC, too. The government has NO money. The people that work for a living pay for you to sit on you butt takes care of you. The media, the billionaires don’t care a crap you. You need to think about it.
OMG!! I cannot believe this “legal” pretzel. God Bless President Trump! MAGA 👊👊🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Georgia election workers suing Rudy Giuliani for defamation
…and they will win even though everyone knows how they cheated!
How do you prove that “something, from sometime, that wasn’t certain to have happened” didn’t actually happen?
You can’t.
And if you try to prove it didn’t happen, or merely state it didn’t happen, you have committed five million dollars worth of defamation.
Typically lawsuits require exacting specificity but not when Lawfare is involved!
What appeal court would hear this?
What’s to stop some citizen from coming forward and lying, just as this woman has, that she/he met this woman and the woman started talking crazy and revealed her play to frame Trump?
What’s to stop any guy from making a claim that this nutbag “touched him in his private area”? Using the logic of this NY jury, if she said she doesn’t know who the guy is, never met him etc. She’s obviously defamatory against him.
Sentence first, trial later.
It wasn’t his burden to prove.
Black’s white today,
Day’s night today,
Men get pregnant today,
Women have penises, today.
Everything that’s wrong today,
Is right today.
And Democrats will tell you that’s okay.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that count darkness as light, and light as darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5: 21-23
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!
Woe to men mighty at drinking wine,
Woe to men valiant for mixing intoxicating drink,
Who justify the wicked for a bribe,
And take away justice from the righteous man!
Its upside down day. Aprils Fools Day.
The corruption that defines the deep state, whether federal, state, county or city, simply exposes the undeniable, paranoia and fear, of the MAGA movement.
NYC is now like a zoo gone wild. The caregivers and feeders are still sort of trying but losing ground and hope. The visitors are appalled by the fecal throwing animals and brainless beasts but it’s like a train wreck or a coliseum lion kill and draws them in. Beware!
Why do you think I call it Zoo York?
Anyone think we have a justice system anymore?
So, let me get this straight….
A Moonbat NY jury full of TDS sufferers found that Trump DIDN’T rape the crazy lady but ordered him to pay her damages for saying he DIDN’T rape her.
So she FALSELY accused him, but he is guilty of defaming her by maintaining his innocence?
Nice system we’ve got here….
One more reason to never visit the rotten apple l.
🙏God bless this special man who was/is here for us in this most catastrophic time in our country’s history. 🇺🇸
God bless him— and send the destructive LawFare satanists back to their country of origin—Hell! 🔥
This woman is a moon bat!
Be nice….the moon bats are keeping the moon landing sites safe for future expeditions…..not to mention they are carefully cultivating the cheese….
🙂
Repair of her reputation…..
More like payment for services to the Stasi.
$20 and my left jewel says she has a pu**y hat in her closet.
You and me BOTH!!!
The serpents are making President Trump a world wide demigod with their endless, vapid persecution of him.
The snakes will not escape his wrath.
Slick Willy unavailable for comment.
The jury system has been the one aspect of our republic that has given me hope throughout the last couple of decades. People who serve on juries usually try to get things right. They can, however, be intimidated into making the findings of fact that their political class demands. For example, one would hope that jurors could ignore the concertina wire surrounding the courthouse in Minneapolis, the armed deputies, the need to bus them in through mobs of protesters, in order to dispassionately consider the evidence presented to them and render a verdict reached in good faith. But if the judges won’t even remain neutral under those conditions, or dispassionately hold that a fair trial cannot be conducted under such conditions, how can you blame the jurors for deciding that the better part of valor requires a verdict that permits them to return to their homes anonymously? Better yet, where is the criminal defense bar? If those conditions obtained during the trial of one of their ordinary clients, they would be up in arms. A travesty of justice!! But because an ox is getting gored who they consider deserving of the goring, their adherence to the principles of due process conveniently disappears. This didn’t start with OJ. It started with Bork. And the fingerprints of the Left are all over the murder weapon. Do not think you will be judged by a jury of your peers. They may have been your peers when they were otherwise anonymous a couple of weeks before, but not after they’ve been subjected to the tender mercies of those willing to commit violence in the name of their movement. Do not think you will get due process. At a minimum, due process means a fair hearing or trial. But even the judges are now starting to pretend that an utterly hostile community, whether local or imported, will permit the rendering of a true verdict. These bedrocks of our Bill of Rights and Fourteenth Amendment now depend wholly upon the political climate you find yourself in when they matter most. The fact that the New York legislature facilitated a private cause of action makes this verdict and impending judgment no less noxious than a constitutionally-prohibited bill of attainder. Welcome to the world of Lawfare.
Mongo, I was jealous when you started posting. I really think we should trade nom de plume.
I like yours, but I’ve grown too fond of mine. Appreciate the nod, though.
New York passed the law a long time after the time of the alleged offense. Therefore it is an ex post facto law. According to the Constitution Article I, Section 10:
“No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.”
Doesn’t it seem that the law that makes a “not guilty” plea equivalent to Plaintiff defamation is absurd? And, in this case it would be an ex post facto law.
There should be a legal remedy for Trump in this case. Let’s hope that his appeal will be reviewed by a true Constitutional court.
Congress and many states frequently enact ex post facto laws. Disgusting.
No matter how much you despise the Democrats you have to admit, unlike the Republicans, that they certainly know how to play hardball!
You are correct to an extent, but it certainly helps when they have the entire media, every department of the federal government, the entire federal court system and almost every elected politician at their disposal. Like this trial everything is a rigged game from here on out.
And they have- Six ways from Sunday….
Thats the point for the democrats – the ends justify the means. They have been practicing this mantra since the late 1960’s.
…instructed the jury to consider that Ms Carroll’s claims may have indeed taken place, at some point – although no evidence exists and no one knows when, not even Ms Carroll.
Just wait until the Senate Democrats apply this standard to the next Republican Supreme Court nominee.
That is certainly a pretty unique , metaphysical type jury instruction- basically saying while there is no proof or evidence supporting the plaintiff’s claims , you can still decide in the plaintiff’s favor because PDJT is the defendant..
It’s a Manhattan jury, which means that they had to find him guilty of SOMETHING. Any other outcome was unthinkable. So a man who credibly denies a rape, who believes that he is being lied about and his name dragged through the mud, expresses his opinion about his accuser. And yet the same jury who said that they didn’t believe her rape allegation thinks that she has any standing left which can be defamed? What can one allowably say about someone who falsely accuses them of rape??
Only in Manhattan, which is why this nonsense continues to arise there as Leftists understand that the depths of woke stupidity is plumbed in that benighted borough.
One can be forgiven for shying toward the belief that a national divorce is really the only answer – these people are not Americans as we have traditionally understood the term. The most charitable view is that they are simply too stupid and ideological to be reasoned with.
Amen! What happened to common sense?
Trump is a modern day martyr.
I’ve heard some pundits refer to Trump as a “tragic hero.”
This new law written to prosecuted POTUS Trump sounds like a bill of attainder .
This harassment of Trump and his associates will just be getting worse. It’s not just trial lawyers and prosecutors abusing the system, it’s the completely crooked judges and courts.
None of this goes anywhere without crooked courts. I won’t be a bit surprised if this is upheld on appeal. When you openly weaponize law enforcement and the courts and no one does a thing about it, why not do more? I would.
Unbelievable. Kangaroo court. You dont even see this in a 3rd world banana republic.
Now you get sued for telling the truth! Sheesh.
The way I see it is the deep state and their money men have thrown everything and anything at Trump to prevent another term. They know now that it has been a huge waste of time and resources to no avail. So when it becomes obvious that Trump is going to be President again they will have no option left but to assassinate him because they know if he makes it through inauguration and without the need to campaign again for another term, the retribution will be swift and total.
Retired Magistrate here: At this point, I am embarrassed that I was ever part of the legal system.
I had the same feeling as a former member of the medical profession –sad.
Me too….
Appeal it and get it out of the corrupt New York Courts and also his Attorneys need to go hard at the fat little leftist billionaire clown Reid Hoffman, who is floating the ticket for her to conduct this farce, Hell drag his fat little arse into the witness box and grill him on the stand!!! 🤔
Reid Hoffman … is a scumbag. A really wealthy scumbag.
Politics
Since at least 2011, Hoffman has been a member and regular attendee of the Bilderberg Group, which gathers 120–150 North American and European “political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media”[91] for an annual invitation-only closed-door conference.[92][93][94] Hoffman is also listed as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, to which he was elected in 2015.[95]
In April 2013, a pro-immigration lobbying group called FWD.us was launched, with Reid Hoffman listed as one of the founders.[96] In 2014, Hoffman donated $150,000 to the Mayday PAC.[97] Also in 2014, Hoffman contributed $500,000 toward David Chiu‘s State Assembly campaign by funding an independent expenditure committee devoted to negative campaigning against his opponent: San Franciscans to Hold Campos Accountable—Vote No for Campos for State Assembly 2014.[98]
In 2016, Hoffman contributed $220,000 in support of Democratic candidate for Vermont governor Matt Dunne, according to a mass-media disclosure filed at the Vermont Secretary of State’s Office.[99]
In 2016, Hoffman created a card game modeled after Cards Against Humanity intended to poke fun at US presidential candidate Donald Trump.[100] In December 2018, the New York Times broke a story alleging that Hoffman had “put $100,000 into an experiment that adopted Russia-inspired political disinformation tactics on Facebook” during the 2017 special Senate race in Alabama, which allegedly targeted Roy Moore voters. Hoffman did not immediately respond.[101] He apologized later that month, also stating he was unaware what the non-profit—Washington, D.C., based American Engagement Technologies, or AET—had been doing.[102]
In 2018, Hoffman helped fund Alloy, a company founded to legally exchange data with affiliated Democrat groups like super PACs. Hoffman supplied half of the 35 million dollars to start it.[103] The company shut down in 2021 after failing to live up to its promise.[104]
Hoffman has been an outspoken proponent of democratic institutions and voting rights and in 2021 published a piece on LinkedIn entitled Protecting Voting Rights: Good for America, Good for American Business. In this piece he discusses how “former American Express CEO Kenneth Chenault and Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier led corporate America to take an active role in this situation, by explicitly advocating for the rights of all American citizens to make their voices heard through the core democratic act of voting”.[105] In 2020, Hoffman also penned a piece that argued for making Voting Day a holiday.[106]
Hoffman gave at least $500,000 to the Mainstream Democrats super PAC, which was founded in February 2022 and has since spent more than $1 million supporting the campaigns of moderate Democrats Henry Cuellar and Kurt Schrader.[107][108][109][110][111]
In October 2022, Hoffman joined the Defense Innovation Board, an independent advisory board for the United States Department of Defense.[112]
Nullify then secede, if necessary.
How much abuse are you people going to tolerate?
Disgusting apathy.
So, basically they’re saying that professing your innocence is against the law because by doing so you’re essentially “defaming” a nutjob liar. Unreal. I wish someone would teach those “reporters” over at Gateway Pundit how to read. Christina La-La Land has an article up headlining that the NY Court found Trump guilty of sexually abusing that nut.
She’s crazy and there’s no way anyone touched that woman EVER.
Reminds Me Of Glen Close In Fatal Attraction….
Apparently most of out government would rather destroy whatever credibility it had left than to let centuries of justice determine fair and honest outcomes.
They are all frauds whose only interest is money and power for themselves. We can thank POTUSDJT for forcing them to reveal themselves as the scum they really are.
Just give this crazy woman’s lawyer the $5 million and be done with it.
Let her sue her attorney to get “her fair share.”
Trump should fight it in court, if for no other reason to keep this absurdity in the news. The news media can’t resist covering anything related to Trump, and he can suck all the oxygen away from competing presidential campaigns.
Prediction:
1.) Book on the shelves by this Friday
2.) Perpetual book tour, including readings and speeches to large “audiences”, starting next Monday and ending late evening on November 4th, 2024. Tour may be extended, depending on election results.
3.) #1 and #2 covered BREATHLESSLY by the Usual Suspects
Did I win?!?
Mr. Piddles for the win!
I bet she eats Cocoa Puffs for breakfast, cause she’s coo-coo!!!
She’s more than a few degrees off plumb
Our situation is so similar to that of parents with teenagers: They’re growing older without having ever been burned (or corrected) for their bad behavior. So they keep pushing and pushing. And we keep wringing our hands.
The next election will fix everything. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Enough of spare the rod and spoil the child. (somebody)
And not a singly court or judge to say, “What? All that’s needed is an accusation and a jury that hates the politician or a jury that has been paid under the table.” All lies accepted, no woman need worry about perjury, the accused cannot go to trial in another jurisdication.
The model for this is the Christine Blasey Ford accusation of rape by Kavanaugh, based on a “recovered memory in therapy,” no evidence needed, just corrupt people needed. Lies. Lies. Lies.
There is no downside to any of the players in this theater, not the billionaire dem financing it, not the crazy woman herself, not her friends who can lie with impunity as no lie detector comes into play and even if it did, the crazy woman who has accused 6 or 7 other wealthy men of the same thing might actually have told them the lies, etc.
What might any of them fear? What’s the one thing that would keep all these players from doing this?
We all know. At some point, it will happen.
“There were no witnesses to the claimed events, there was no evidence the event took place, there was nothing to indicate Ms. Carroll or Mr. Trump were even in the same place at the same time.”
Note to Trump haters: Now that the precedent has been set and you can cheer like slavering morons, be sure you notice when this same tactic is used against any other politician, political appointee, judicial appointee, etc.
If Ballsy-Ford had just sued Kavanaugh instead of putting on her Senate show, Kavanaugh likely would have never been confirmed.
The charge of battery should be dismissed on appeal as there is no evidence of battery.
And how does defending yourself in a lawsuit by refuting the charges constitute defamation?
He offended her.
It seems that in New York if you are Trump, the statute of limitations doesn’t apply to you thanks to an ex-post facto law they passed, as this Carroll case just proved. And we have Bragg twisting the law into a pretzel to avoid the statute of limitations in the Stormy case.
Any reasonable judge could see that these cases were politically driven, but in NY we don’t have reasonable judges, only Trump-hating judges.
Appeal ?
A judge who allows court to be abused like this should be disbarred.
I hope the bitch dies a thousand agonies. I am so tired of the NO justice system.
What keeps EVERY woman in NYC from doing the same thing as this??
Self-respect
That doesn’t narrow it down much since most people in NYC are Democrats! lol
How do you know? The powers that be tell you so? New York City has honest elections and people vote Democrat?
One could look at the decisions that come out of their jury pools as another indicator.
ROFLMAO…..knocked it out of the park!
Getting in short supply from the left.
Yep…looking at Cuomo(s)
Mental stability and awareness.
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What keeps other likely candidates out of consideration for high office?
They can be lawfared to death with spurious lawsuits like this one.
One of President Donald Trump’s most critical qualifications is that he can absorb blows like this one that sink people like Michael Flynn.
Yes. This was clearly a politically weaponized and dishonest judge and jury.
Wonder if that makes him “proud?”
“I will take the slings and arrows…” – Trump the Establishment
….and sink desanctimonious.
They don’t have a billionaire to fund the trial for them.
What has kept every man in NY away from women like this for decades?
Over 50% Of Liberal, White Women Under 30 Have A Mental Health Issue
eviemagazine.com/post/over-50-percent-white-liberal-women-under-30-mental-health-condition
nothing, as long as the target is ttrump. or another prominent republican. in any other case it would be throw out