After attempting to navigate through the politics in order to curry favor with the base Republican voters on a Ukraine position, when confronted by Piers Morgan who is a pro-NATO war voice, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis now says his former position on Ukraine has been “mischaracterized” and Vladimir Putin “is a war criminal.”
The walk back highlights once again that Ron DeSantis is an empty vessel using poll testing to formulate his policy stances.
The reversing comments on Vladimir Putin and Ukraine come from the interview DeSantis gave to Piers Morgan as noted in a recent New York Post article:
(Piers Morgan, NY Post) – Florida’s Gov. Ron DeSantis has branded Vladimir Putin a “war criminal” and demanded he be “held accountable” for his barbaric invasion of Ukraine.
Taking a tougher tone from his statement last week appearing to dismiss the year-long war as a “territorial dispute,” DeSantis now says Russia was WRONG to invade Ukraine and was WRONG to invade and take over Crimea in 2014, and won’t win the war. And he’s made his strongest attack yet on Russia’s dictator, calling him a loser who is “basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons.”
His assertion, in a statement to Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson, that it is not in America’s “vital national interests” to become “further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia” was strongly criticized by numerous senior Republicans — including Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio.
When I asked him specifically if he regretted using the phrase “territorial dispute,” DeSantis replied, “Well, I think it’s been mischaracterized. Obviously, Russia invaded (last year) — that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014 — That was wrong.
[…] “There is a move now to hold [Vladimir Putin] accountable for war crimes,” I told DeSantis, “bombing maternity hospitals and genocidal activity in parts of Ukraine wiping out whole cities like Mariupol. Would you support that?”
“I think he is a war criminal,” he replied. “This ICC … we have not done that in the US because we’re concerned about our soldiers or people being brought under it. So, I don’t know about that route, but I do think that he should be held accountable.” DeSantis is convinced Ukraine will eventually prevail in the war. (read more)
The DeSantis team has also hired the notorious dirtbag, Jeff Roe.
You might remember Roe as the former 2016 campaign manager for Ted Cruz who falsely told the people of Iowa, on the night before the primary caucus, that Dr. Ben Carson dropped out of the race. The Cruz Crew amplified this false message, and duped Carson caucus supporters who subsequently switched candidates on election day to support Ted Cruz. Jeff Roe created the lie, then tried to deny it.
(Via Politico) – […] Jeff Roe, who previously ran Sen. Ted Cruz’s 2016 presidential campaign, has signed on to be an adviser to the super PAC, Never Back Down, according to an operative with direct knowledge of the move.
Never Back Down is being spearheaded by executive director Chris Jankowski, another seasoned Republican operative. Ken Cuccinelli, a former top Homeland Security official to Donald Trump, is serving as chair of the super PAC. Over the last several weeks, Cuccinelli has visited four key early GOP primary states. (read more)
A DeSantis political group that would hire Jeff Roe highlights, yet again, how the DeSantis 2024 campaign is a mirror of Ted Cruz campaign in 2016.
Factually, almost all of the 2016 never-Trump Cruz Crew are now members of the 2024 never-Trump Desantis Crew. To assist this overall ‘never-Trump’ endeavor, in 2024 Vivek Ramaswamy is now playing the former role of Evan McMullin in 2016.
The professional political class of the GOPe, the DeceptiCons, are never as vicious against Democrats as they are against candidates who do not conform to the Republican UniParty orthodoxy. If you want to see the Republicans fight dirty, just become a Republican political candidate that does not comply with them. Then, and only then, will you see a side of the Republican wing that doesn’t surface against Democrats.
Threaten their GOPe Wall Street multinational corporate interests, ie. ‘their money‘, and the DeceptiCons get vicious.
If the professional Republicans are NOT targeting a Republican politician, you can be assured that Republican politician is a member of the GOPe club operation.
Yes, it really is that simple, and Ron DeSantis is a member of that club.
Weasels gonna weasel.
Well if the CHARACTER FITS… and fits him well…
Seems to be more likened to the King Lemur from “Madagascar” than a weasel, but close enough!
🙂
Big sad. I really liked what he did with Disney.
But what if this helps We The People see the deceit?
I’m going to save hating him until it’s over, I’m psy-opted out…maybe I’ll trademark that and sell t-shirts through my Pitchforks and Torches company (another dream of mine).
May be time for you to brace yourself to find out the DEAL with Disney BEHIND the SCENES is a WHOLE LOT MORE FAVORABLE to DISNEY than anything DeSanctimonious has so far said in Public.
If his comments on Disney are as Close to truth as his comments about Vladimir Putin, there is no telling how much Gravy he has been giving to Disney UNDER THE TABLE.
Like when a Rich SAP pays a Big Bully to Take a DIVE from the rich guy In A Fake Fight, to make the rich guy look good to the skeptical girl he is trying to court. “I HEARD THAT CRACK YOU MADE ABOUT THE GIRL I AM GOING TO MARRY!”
(1950’s cheap TV show)
Just A Thought.
Me thinks DeSantis speaks with Devil’s forked tongue.
Disney went broke after going woke. With their “privileges” of being separate independent government being revoked all the maintenance, utilities, emergency, police and fire falls on Orange county and Florida. The residents will be picking up these costs.
It was a scam that DeSanctimonious was at odds with Disney, a longtime donor of His. He owed them Billy’s and in the name of protecting the children and stripping Disney of their privileged independence, Ron actually bailed them out. Who pays for the consequences of this?
Sooner or later they wind up decloaking. I understand how there are people who don’t like Trump because he can be grating at times and he listens to bad people sometimes. But the great value of Trump is that he forces the neocons out into the sunlight where they start running around screaming in agony.
i said it yesterday , DeSanctimonious reminds me of Ted Cruz
Now i know exactly why.
Never forget the speech Ted Cruz gave at the 2016 convention
Also, never forget that Ted Cruz ran for president, knowing that he was not a natural born citizen, and therefore not eligible to run Mr. constitutionalist lol
And neither is Vivek, yet no one publicly calls him out on it either.
Vivek was born in Cincinnati. So he is natural born, even if his parents are immigrants. By your reasoning, Trump would not be eligible either. His mom was born in Scotland. Cruz was born in Canada, so that is a different issue.
As long as Vivek’s parents became naturalized citizens before his birth, he is eligible to be the C – in – C.
Cruz’s mother was an American citizen. She attended the same all-girl Catholic high school as my daughter. He was qualified to run just like McCain, who was born in Panama to American parents.
Yep. Same with Obama. If momma is a US citizen, so is her baby.
If anyone thinks there’s a candidate that will never have a questionable position on an issue, they’ll never vote.
They have DeSantis on a leash, and they just yanked it.
Perhaps this entire “anti-war” Ron DeSantis was a prefab head fake to appease the Trump supporters who actually LIKE Peace. Then … after Tucker Carlson convinces all of us that Ron isn’t wearing the Blue and Yellow ribbon … he goes on some unknown, unwatched, Englishman’s blog or something and delivers his TRUE GOPe position on Putin and regime change.
whoever is managing this oddballs candidacy (as of yet unannounced … yeah, right) … is an incompetent FOOL. But I like the fact that the GOPe and their billionaire benefactors keep underestimating the intelligence and attention span of we the Trump Base. Yeah, boys … weze jusssa bunch o’ flyover country bumpkins that do’n know bumkis … uh huh … keep thinking that
Looks like this politician likes having a leash. He has to know by now with each passing day more and more people are seeing that leash, that he hasn’t even tried to remove it shows how well trained the swamp’s new circus act is.
DeSantis is going to be reduced to cue cards to keep things straight or will be so nervous and fake that he cannot speak naturally. Thus he will look more and more fake.
World War Three isn’t simply an issue.
Good luck pulling your guy out of that hole.
You mean it’s as much an existential threat as sudden anthropogenic global warming, cum climate change
Anthropogenic? Is that like flatulence?
I believe that China, standing up with Russia has put the Kabash on Biden, Hillary Obama’s war in Ukraine
I was cleaning my glasses as I was trying to read your post, and I thought you wrote Woke War Three — which is also apropos! I need to make a list of trustworthy Republicans — so far “Trump” is the only one on that list.
Yes — “issue” is more like nuclear annihilation or millions of dead young people being marched off to Ukraine for what!? What is wrong with these people!?
If anyone thinks there’s a uniparty that will allow an insurgent candidate landslide, they’ve never voted for an insurgent.
NeverMAGA?
America First Better
The hypocrisy of our foreign policy is one of the biggest ‘issues’ our nation faces. Most MAGA people know this. It isn’t something you’re wishy washy about if you’re running for President.
I hope he keeps shooting himself in the foot.
Actually, his aim was worse than that, about 3 feet,…check that he’s short,..about 2 1/2 feet higher up, and on the midline.
My dad used to say “stepping on his own d*ck”.
THAT is NOT the KIND of “Questionable Issue” people are having with THIS particular “Man Without A Character”.
Not getting the underlying issue?
The “pornstar payoff” comment, this complete reversal on Ukraine, his subdued response on MAL raid, these are not just “questionable” they are disqualifying.
There’s a difference between having a “questionable position” and getting caught in a falsehood designed to hoodwink voters hoping they’d never find out what his true beliefs are.
DeSantis has been caught in a lie. The problem he has is that the people paying his bills are full-on psychotic neocons trying to foment a nuclear war with Russia. They lack the self-control to let him say one thing to the rubes while knowing that he’s going to be all-in on war with Russia once elected.
He wasn’t “mischaracterized”. He sent a response to Tucker Carlson that was clearly a lie. When he went on Enemy Television they called him on it because they, too, are psychotic and want nuclear war with Russia.
You can’t serve two masters.
This is a leftwing attack, but you can judge the examples he highlights yourself.
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The many reinventions of Ron DeSantis
(The Florida governor’s career is full of opportunistic shifts toward whichever cause will benefit him most)
Excerpt:
Looking back through DeSantis’s career in elected politics, the main through line isn’t policy principle or ideological fealty, but rather apparent opportunism. In just over a decade, his persona has undergone a series of quite calculated shifts based on what DeSantis evidently felt could help him climb the next rung.
https://www-vox-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/politics/23622719/ron-desantis-2024-presidential-opportunism?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16795260992255&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fpolitics%2F23622719%2Fron-desantis-2024-presidential-opportunism
Alex Bruesewitz ����
@alexbruesewitz
DeSantis sides with Liz Cheney and Mike Pence says Trump should’ve conceded and not fought against the rigged election
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Linked article:
DeSantis says Trump should’ve given up power like George Washington after election loss and January 6: Florida Gov. takes a dig at rival for trying to overturn the election instead of acting like a Founding Father
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11890749/DeSantis-throws-shade-Trump-bringing-George-Washington-saying-great-men-power.html
That was a really politically stupid thing for him to say. If he thinks Dems will ever vote for him for saying it, he’s crazy.
If he think MAGA will, he’s double crazy.
We have known for decades that the Dems have machines in all our big cities and they engage and have for decades in illegal practices when they deem it necessary.
What we learned in 2020 and since is that they run a machine in entire states.
It was their machine politics that moved out here and ruined the West Coast.
Actually, in many States, it is RINOS that have political machines in the large cities, and concentrate their cheating there.
In AZ, it WAS NOT Democrats that orchestrated the cheating in Maracopa County.
Steve Richer and Bill Gates were elected AS REPUBLICANS, and so were endorsed to run, by the McStain machine AZ Republican party.
THEY oversaw the ballot fraud at the Maracopa County election center.
Putin a “war criminal”? RdS, that’s a new low, even for you. You just shot yourself in the foot (again), this will not poll well. You gonna attack Imran Khan next? The sanctimonious meatball is a disgrace to all of meatballdom.
I’m sure this was just a coincidence LOL
The one thing Putin always said was, “If you put a NATO country on my border, I will retaliate.”
So Zelensky starts advocating for being in NATO.
Yet, Putin is the aggressor, huh?
Currently, there are 3 NATO member states that border Russia: Norway, Estonia and Latvia. Norway is a charter member, the Baltic states joined around 20 years ago. Sweden and Finland have applied for membership, Ukraine and Georgia have been offered membership. Finland has a 1,000 – mile frontier with Russia while Ukraine has a fairly lengthy border with them. With the possibility of being “boxed – in” from the Barents Sea to the Black Sea, you can see why Vlad is upset.
You were right about Ukraine the first time, Ron, don’t shoot yourself in the foot by going after Putin he’s the only adult in the room at this point. Remember, NATO moved to Russia’s border not the other way around!
But he wasn’t.
It’s not a territorial dispute.
It’s the US with a Hail Mary effort to jump start World War Three.
But the US is trying to PAINT it as “Territorial”, and NATO IS breaking Treaty from WWII to VIOLATE their Sworn promises to Russia, in their TREATY agreeing to avoid the APPEARANCE of trying to invade Russia.
And the UNDERLYING ISSUE is those TUNNELS next to the Russian Border where BIO WEAPONS are being developed using the bodies of BABIES, while using the Children as a VERY WIDE array of Different PRODUCTS for their Secret Smuggling Trade, Right under the NOSES of the Ukrainian people and the Russians – While the Adversaries of the Russian and Ukrainian People are trying to pretend the NICE and POLITE thing for the Russians to do is to IGNORE that that Nest of Tunnels is the World’s largest distribution center for this smuggling cartel that is servicing the Globalists various “appetites”.
And if you want to pretend that DeSanctimonious is CLUELESS about the smuggling cartel….
“It’s the US with a Hail Mary effort to jump start World War Three.”
Wyattaustere on insta posted a succinct explanation of what is going on there.
‘the deep state is willing to start WWIII in order to hide its criminality in Ukraine and at home’
But … the LGBTQqueers DEMAND Putin’s regime change
That’s about the size of it plus a hundred years old personal grudge match with the kosher nostra.
When big money owns you, having to backtrack and make it clear, what you should have said, is a given. Ron is now acknowledging, that his globalist, puppet masters are in charge.
The word “weasel” comes to mind.
You rang?
Y-YESssss! (said Miss Prissy)
Along with Snake, Skunk, Honey Badger, Rabid Wolf….
We are so stupid that we will let them steal it again and if we do? We deserve what comes of it. I’m out. I’m not even voting again. I’m tired of all this being screwed by our own. This baby boomer has made enough to live happy.
All of you squishes can just go f…
All well and good unless whatever you made is stuffed in your mattress.
Well, then you are either stupid or never we’re gonna vote for President Trump, or a troll trying to get others to not vote.
Write Donald J. Trump in for your vote.
Accepting for the moment that “they will just steal it, again” do you actually appreciate what a tremendous gift that is?
IF that is the case (and I am NOT saying that it is) it means that there is no way PDJT can possibly win.
Which means,…
He has NOTHING to LOSE!
“Nothing is as fearsome, as a man who fights, knowing he has NOTHING to lose.”
“Freedom’s just another word for nothing less to lose…” Kris Kristofferson .
Left, I think it was left to lose…..and wasn’t Janis the first one to sing that song? At least in my lifetime…
Yeah, typo! Sorry about that! Written by Kris Kristofferson. Yes, Joplin made it famous!!
I’m already done with DeSantis. A younger version of McCain. No thanks.
When a glowing Establishment Puff Piece includes language like this… “His assertion […] was strongly criticized by numerous senior Republicans — including Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio”… then your candidate is a problem.
Morgan should have thrown this in for good measure: “If John McCain were still alive, he would have very much disapproved as well, I’m sure.”
Question: do the people that HATE US realize that the feeling is mutual? I bet they don’t…
Beautiful Nail! Right on the Button!!! Just That Very Weaselly. For a Pure Fact!
At this point, isn’t the US just basically an insolvent bank with nuclear weapons?
And I seem to recall that the US wiped out whole cities like Fallujah (with depleted uranium, iirc)…would you support that, Ron?
Yeah, we’re a bankrupt nation with nukes.
And I’ve seen comments online about how there is a missing video of former Congressman James Trafficant calling out the US government as bankrupt. I haven’t been able to figure out if this is true or not, but this claims to be a copy of his speech:
http://rvbeypublications.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/webjamestraficant.pdf
And in a quick clip from Alex Jones’ documentary The Obama Deception, former Congressman Dr. Ron Paul’s brother, Wayne Paul, says the US has been bankrupt since 1933:
Wayne Paul The USA has been bankrupt since 1933!!
Amanda, Democrat Jim Trafficant was an America First congressman from Youngstown, Ohio who was a kindred spirit with Pat Buchanan…so the Uniparty destroyed him.
Also the other guy has more nukes and better hypersonic nukes.
When Putin and Xi said they were ready to return to the negotiation table on Ukraine the next day, the US put out a statement that no peace or cease fire would be accepted. You would think this administration would get the memo after a year.
This sounds like a Death Wish — maybe they’ll use this to destroy flyover country. Nukes fly to the middle of the country and they have more dead Americans — those damn Trump voters!
…and then Jesus rides in and smites them all.
“The walk back highlights once again that Ron DeSantis is an empty vessel using poll testing to formulate his policy stances.”
I don’t know that it was poll testing as much as his minders getting his mind right.
Karl Rove was like…
“Whoa, whoa, whoa! Ron… Ron… we didn’t talk about this first, Ron…”
“… yeah, but I thought…”
“You thought?!? You thought?!? Ron… babe… we’re not doing ‘I thought’… OK, Ron? There’s a plan… we need to follow the plan, buddy!”
And Paul Ryan chimes in… fresh off spamming his Twitter reload button…
“Guys… guys… we have a problem, guys… Graham just came out with a statement…”
“Talk to me me Paulie…”
“Graham says… oh crap, looks like Rubio’s chimed in, too… OK… Graham says ‘Make no mistake: Putin is a War Criminal and deserves to be executed in public’… Rubio’s statement is a bit more complicated, but basically the same gist…”
“OK… well, that’s a problem… a BIG problem… we can’t lose our base! Ok, fellas… it’s nut cutting’ time! This is why we get payed the big bucks, folks! Alright, somebody get Piers Morgan on the horn… that limey bastard owes me a favor…”
Then DeSanctus is all…
“Gee whiz, guys…I’m really sorry… Karl… I…”
“Ron… listen… take a couple days off, alright buddy? Take Mary…”
“Casey.”
“… take Casey and the kids to my beach house for a couple days… we got this, Ron…”
Annnnnd scene.
All likely accurate, if their base is DC and Wall Street invested in MIC stocks.
Lindsey Graham’s base is what, 2 million votes in South Carolina?
He’s only representing a teeny tiny fraction.
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If the people of SC knew… He would probably not even in the place where he is today
I am sure he did not put “I am pro WW3” and “My main sponsors are Lockheed and Raytheon” or “That mushroom cloud on the horizon goes well with your curtains” on his ballot.
No worries though, on that day he will be tough!
From a bunker miles underground somewhere.
It’s the bravery of being out of range.
Graham was not elected by votes, from voters.
He was installed, with ballots from phantom voters.
As was McConnell, Cornyn, etc.
The R wing of the Uniparty benefits from the long tradition of encouraging the myth that it is only DEMOCRATS that cheat with ballot fraud.
As Sundance points out, you will never see more viscious, underhanded dirty politics, including all forms of cheating, than when a Nationalist/Populist challenges a RINO Incumbent.
The 2022 midterms demonstrated how the RNC rigs the game, but too many are still not recognising how we were conned, or psy-opped, with that whole “red-wave” expectations game.
Pointing out the Facts of Life to him, I am Sure!
It is not enough to simply beat RdS. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.
I like what you did there.
Me, too. We must eliminate the R.A.T.’s, once and for all!
(Republicans Against Trump).
Strangest thing, you write a book. Then go on tour, then it’s read and presto, your poll numbers drop drastically.
Ouch! So it’s not quite as good as “Tales of My Father” … or whatever Obama’s Fairytale was titled.
Hey Ron, we’re not going to be fighting towelheaded goat herders in Eastern Europe! Russia has Hypersonic Missiles capable of Mach 15 like the Kinzhal.
The Kinzhal turns mighty aircraft carrier strike groups into sitting ducks
Russia’s new Kinzhal missile flies at speeds of mach 12 to mach 15 and nothing in western defensive arsenals can stop its strike. During the war in Ukraine, Russia a stunning demonstration of its power. The first Kinzhal strike, delivered one month after the beginning of hostilities in Ukraine, was perhaps the most significant: Russian forces targeted a large weapons depot in Ukraine which had been built to withstand a nuclear strike. It was buried 170 meters (over 500 ft) underground and protected by several layers of armored concrete.
The Kinzhal flies at altitudes of between 20 and 40 km, with a maximum range of 2,000 km. When above target, it dives perpendicularly and accelerates to 15 mach, gathering enormous kinetic energy in addition to its explosive payload. That first strike with a single Kinzhal missile destroyed Ukraine’s nuke-proof underground weapons depot. This was a message for the west.
Moscow calling: we can sink ALL your carriers
Lovely! Oh, My. How you talk!
Yes, I do remember that Moment – now you mention it… hehehehe
Backtrack Season in full bloom for the stealth, Meatball for President campaign.
Other than the NYC DA, can you say that anyone had a worse week than Gov. Meatball? Rookie mistake.
WAY beyond Rookie. Someone who has Vastly over-estimated himself. Like a very small meteor that hits the earth as the size of a golf ball, trying to think of itself as something to compare to the Sun. And cannot measure up to a Jim Bowie Knife.
Now he is just flailing. The consent manufacturing machine has never been more out of touch with the country. They are now purely reactionary, and all their timing is off.
Pathetic.
As they say. This. Daily we learn new ways the GOPe are the worst of the worst.
Is it me or is Desantis becoming terribly boring?
Wait until you see him debate. Total stiff.
He may be a bit too Rankling to be merely Boring, but Yeah, That IS the right Neighborhood. a lot more Dispicable…. but…
The kind of guy it’s always been fun to watch Richard Widmark sweep the floor with. Yeah.
Some Flatfooted Frat Brat that thinks he’s jive to walk up to the Bar and rub elbows with the Men. And they throw him in the dirt in the street and the bar man hits him with the Mop Water to cool him off.
I’m serious.
Well, he’s always been boring. His strength was his no-nonsense policies.
So, NYC DA, losing ground and backtracking, as his case against PDJT crumbles before our eyes.
RDS’s flailing campaign for POTUS in 2024, likewise and before he has even announced.
And Russia has taken that area, that absolutely HAD to be held by Ukraine,..
And WHAT have I been saying,..repeat after me;
THEY are NOT winning!
I’m with you Dutch…and my “They” is pretty broad…RDS, Uniparty, Conservative Inc, RNC, Neocons, $oro$, WEF, Fauchi/Gates, Chamber of Compromise, BigPharma, Gender Benders, Dems, and Climate Changers all are losing.
DeSatan is just a ventriloquist dummy for multinationals and their precious World Economic Forum.
That’s a Great Nail!
A Brit doing the interview? King Chuck must be desperate to get Trump out of the way. RDS, the Pilgrim’s Society approves!
A gun grabber too.
Piers is NO Help for such as THAT. Little smarmy simp.
A couple of years ago I was so frustrated with Pierce Morgan and emailed him to get off the 4am ActBlue talking points… still waiting to hear back.
DeSantis’ Ukraine u-turn: Florida Governor now says his ‘territorial dispute’ comments were ‘mischaracterized’, calls Putin a war criminal and says Russia is ‘basically a gas station with a nuclear weapons’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11892039/Now-DeSantis-says-territorial-dispute-comments-Ukraine-mischaracterized.html
Always someone else’s fault that he is always found to be incredibly stupid, like when he helped shovel in a Returning Colorado Democrat Senator last year, when he was trying to give a foot up to a Rino anti-Trumper, and killed off Colorado opportunity for the GOP Senator, instead.
Was that REALLY an unintentional result?
Vlad: Biden is a war monger and the US is basically an EV charging station with a few outdated nukes.
Sounds more like a Democrat every time he opens his mouth.
I used to like RDS, but the more he opens his mouth, the more I can’t stand him! What a huge disappointment!
Wow Sundance.
Your point about GOPe being more viscous toward opposing R candidates really helped me to understand what I have been experiencing on social media lately.
I kept seeing a pattern that whenever I would post something negative about DeSantis.
There would be a swarm of venomous vipers hissing, name-calling, you name it coming at me.
They are all DeSantis supporters.
I kept thinking, were they really not that long ago one of us? Or were they never really with us?
God is definitely sifting to show who is who, and it aint pretty.
I now know at least to some extent Sundance what you mean by “the big ugly.”
These could also be bot accounts trying to psyop us into going along with the herd and accepting RDS.
Thank you for that. I understand the main idea of bots and how they are used, but I’m not real savvy about spotting them.
I will say the supposed people I mentioned do all sound the same. Not exact words, but basic message and horrible attitude and verbiage.
It’s funny because some of them say I must be a bot because they really don’t understand the depth of what I am saying.
It’s all reactionary. So in their puzzlement they think I must be a bot!
So, basically DeSantis, on top of all the other things we’re learning about him, he’s also a waffler?
Not a good look.
I was reading the reader comments below the New York Post RdS interview article. Linked by Sundance at the top
I expected to read people saying how great RdS was. Yes there were some of those. But as I read more posts, I thought I was at the tree house. Lots of negative comments. RdS being a flip flop, Fake, establishment , lots of the same comments I see here. People leaving a positive comment and getting 2 negative replies. RdS is fading. Even readers of the NYP can see thru his visqueen suit.
Flop Gov
Saw a lot of negative comments toward RDS at the Daily Mail too. Surprised me.
This is an excellent example of patriots doing outreach and getting the word out!
Good bye Ron!
You had it all and you blew it.
This clinches it for me. DeSantis is bought and paid for.
Yep by the political class who keep losing elections but get their bank accounts padded.
When you use a John McCain throw away line and think it will pursuade MAGA/AF conservatives, it has the opposite effect.
Back to his neocon roots…and the ghost of John McCain…
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Excerpt:
“I think he’s hostile to the United States, but I think the thing that we’ve seen is he doesn’t have the conventional capability to realize his ambitions,” DeSantis said of Putin. “And so, he’s basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons ….
….The comment echoed a remark made by the late Republican Sen. John McCain, who in 2014 from the Senate floor said Russia was “a gas station masquerading as a country.” GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham agreed, calling Russia “an oil and gas company.”
https://www-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.businessinsider.com/desantis-calls-putin-war-criminal-gas-station-nuclear-territorial-dispute-2023-3?amp=&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16795482576076&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fdesantis-calls-putin-war-criminal-gas-station-nuclear-territorial-dispute-2023-3
The Ghost of John McCain…. The Ghost of Kiev….One in the Same?
DeSantis quoting John McCain elitist snark is not a good look .
Hedgefund Ron thought his anti-woke shield was going to make him invincible. The MAGA base were lemmings who would keep screaming for more “boob bait for the Bubbas”. Ron’s a complete stiff. Even on cynical political terms he is a lightweight. Hes not even announced and the fork is stuck in him.
Too bad Meatball DeSantis has sold his store to the company store. Another EMPTY SUIT. What an idiot. Turning in his halo for a pitchfork.
soul not store to the company store.
I fully agree with Bobby Barnes here. DeSantis is finished.
Think about this Ron:
Col. Douglas Macgregor says another interesting thing about Ukraine casualties…
He says he watched a video of a Ukrainian brigade moving off-road into a position near a town outside Bahkmut.
The Russians fired one artillery shell into their midst to gauge the accuracy, then opened up with everything they had available.
The brigade was annihilated in minutes.
That’s perhaps up to 80% – of 4000 Ukrainian troops killed in ONE engagement in ONE day!
Extrapolate that! We are murdering hundreds of thousands of young Orthodox Christian Russian and Ukraine soldiers for nothing!
Exactly! For what? To weaken Russia because they are traditionalists and won’t bow to the “woke” WEF masters? To save the Dollar, which the U.S. is addicted to manufacturing as fast as they can to support their welfare state dependents (voters) and to pay their thug allies and agents? This war was lost a long time ago, yet Biden is willing to send thousands of young men, along with civilians of every age, to the slaughter to achieve absolutely nothing but hide his complicity? The real war criminal in all of this is Biden and his administration.
You mean Latino Jeb Bush?
Jeb says, please clap now.
There’s no honorable alternative to voting for Donald Trump in 2024. Ask yourself: When exactly did the Democrats, in outright collusion with the new American Stasi, the FBI, earn the right to decide who Americans can or cannot choose to be President? That’s the power they arrogated to themselves in 2015 whey they let it be known that Donald Trump was unacceptable as a candidate and furthermore, were he to be elected, he would be sabotaged in office at every turn by any means necessary.
Governor DeSantis’ remarks reveal clearly that he does not mind giving the Democrats that power and in fact intends to take advantage of their corrupt and malicious efforts to destroy a man who was extraordinarily successful in office.
For that, the Governor has earned my lasting contempt. No Republican with an ounce of self-respect should ever vote for him. (The politician Gov. DeSantis most reminds me of is Michael Dukakis, another governor much-admired in his state, who also posed as a no-nonsense technocrat “who’d get things done” but instead turned out to be a colossally anti-climactic dud.)
What was done to Pres. Trump—and, mind you, still is being done—was monstrous and deserves a rebuke far sterner than the laodicean mouthwash Mr. DeSantis manages to summon up. Further, his reference to Miss Clifford was as much as to say that the President is getting what he deserves, which, apart from being despicable, is essentially what Dems and RINOs believe.
The abuse heaped on Mr. Trump exceeds—in sheer turpitude and by orders of magnitude—any other political corruption in living memory. Left un-redressed, the crimes of the Deep State must prove fatal to the Republic.
The nettle to be grasped is this: There is simply no other remedy for it other than the re-election of Pres. Trump. The Democrats can live happily with a Pres. DeSantis. What they will never tolerate is a second Trump presidency. Should we give them what they want most in all the world?
Make America Honest Again! Make America American Again! Make America Trustworthy Again, Make America Normal Again!! Trump’s America — You can be Great Again!!
The song “Rolling in the Deep” by Adele keeps coming to mind.
An example of the GOPe treating a popular Republican in a vicious manner that they have never treated Democrats is that of Rep. Steve King of Iowa.
They are probably asking Youngkin to queue up to replace DeSantis already.
I read Tim Scott is warming up in the bullpen
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Stefanik on DeSantis’ reaction to Trump’s reported coming indictment:
“I think he’s gonna see slippage in his polls. He’s already seen slippage the past couple of weeks. I think you’re going to see President Trump continue to solidify his position in the Republican nomination.”
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Don’t trust Elise… Uniparty saves endorsements for timing purposes…she will eventually endorse someone not named Trump
I love that I can always count on the enemies of the people to commit Political Tourettes. It’s inevitable if they speak long enough that something vile will spring from their lips.
Notice what he doesn’t backtrack on, and compare/contrast it, with what he does backtrack on.
The comment he is backtracking on, initially saying Ukraine was territorial dispute, actually “went down well” with MAGA, and that he backtracks on, to standard neocon position of Putin bad.
The “pornstar payoff” comment, which destroyed him with MAGA, he did NOT backtrack on.
Politics is like sports, with the “thrill of victory, and agony of defeat” and “no do-overs”, with key, seminal moments where the wrong move can make all the difference.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (a great line from a superb series….”Yes, Minister”).
Peter Hitchens in a recent debate stated:
Why are we all here and why do we care about Ukraine?
I care about Ukraine for two principle reasons:
One that I am a Christian who strongly believes that war is hell and who does not like seeing contented human beings turned into corpses and refugees . . . . .
and the second is that I am a British patriot who sees war on the continent of Europe and worries why we are engaged in this enterprise and where it might end for us and is filled with fear for the possible outcome so I am driven by two very strong reasons for caring about this.
As an old man with a long interest in history, especially Europe, I have been impressed by Col Douglas MacGregor’s meticulous and sober analysis of the situation and clear reasoning. He does not shout and rage about the situation but speaks with compassion and is critical of both political parties in the USA. He is probably one of very few US military leaders who speaks publicly against warmongering.
Just another Judas! Just like Pence, he has a lot of people fooled but eventually the mask will come completely off and the fools not paying attention now will be shocked yet again. At what point do folks stop playing the fool? Use some independent thought and stop buying everything these creeps say hook, line and sinker.
“was strongly criticized by numerous senior Republicans — including Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio.”
This should have been your focus group to let you know you were doing the right thing. Oh my.
Ugh. The more he speaks now the worse he looks. He both shines as a governor and stinks as a candidate. Rotting mackerel in the moonlight.
LOL! Should be a song in there somewhere — Rotting mackerel in the moonlight — shining, stinking near the sea…
He also stunk as a governor candidate. Trump had to go in, do 2 rallies for him, and drag him over the finish line. You are someday going to realize that his “shine” as a governor was ALLOWED by his handlers to give him just enough cred to be a faux MAGA guy along the same lines as Lyin’ Ted Cruz. That’s what they do.
His handlers allowed him to be tough guy on a few social issues to get people to swoon over him.
He has a big history of being a lawyer involved in Guantanamo Bay. It is not a pretty one.
In the light of a full moon, during red tide, beached alongside a whale…
This is a helpful development because Republican voters are a lot smarter than they were in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 a lot of us, myself included, saw right through the transparent deceptions of the Bush and Cruz efforts to win the nomination. I use Scott Walker a lot as an example because he could not square his comments about illegal aliens with the policy positions of his Money Men who were calling the shots. Once he tried to square his tough stance on immigration with the open borders policies of his Paul Ryan-style donors, he was d.o.n.e.
I realize Trump is a little distracted this week, but what a great time to cut an ad showing that DeSantis is simply lying to voters just like Mitt Romney, just like Jen Bush, just like Ted Cruz. There’s only one genuine candidate in the race who has always thought the neocon policies are insane and need to be stopped: Trump.
I’m starting to feel about DeSantis the way I felt about Ted Cruz. I was an early Cruz supporter until I saw what he was doing in 2015/16 and realized he was a wolf in sheep’s clothing.