During an interview with Margaret Brennan today, Congressman Michael McCaul -another GOPe weasel – said he stands with Vice President Mike Pence in saying “they avoided a constitutional crisis” on January 6, 2021, when Congress declared an emergency session and refused to entertain any challenges to the 2020 election certification. WATCH:
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Texas Republican Congressman Michael McCaul.
Good morning to you, Chairman McCaul.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL (R-Texas): Good Morning, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I have got a lot to get to with you today.
But I want to start where I just left off with those very strong remarks from Mike Pence last night. Do you want to associate yourself with what he said?
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: Let me just say Vice President Pence exercised moral clarity and judgment that day by doing his constitutional responsibility, authenticating the votes and counting them.
He avoided a major constitutional crisis that day. As you know, I voted for certification. That is our constitutional role not to overturn state- certified ballots. So, I agree. I mean, look, it was a dark — dark day. And I think people will be — history will judge everyone by what they did that day.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.
It was a pretty strong condemnation of Donald Trump, who he hasn’t directly taken on like that before. But it’s also back in the news very much, Chairman, because it was the speaker of the House who gave those 41,000 hours of surveillance video access to FOX News, which then has used a recasting of the events, trying to sanitize it, trying to whitewash history.
Do you think it was a mistake for Republican leadership to strike this deal with Tucker Carlson? That is who Mike Pence was talking about.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: Well, I know Kevin McCarthy has turned all the videotape over to FOX News.
He has given me assurance he’s going to turn it over to the entire media. I think — I believe in the fourth estate, freedom of press, and I think the American people deserve to see all the footage from that day, and all the footage is not going to be tourism at the Capitol. It’s going to show a very dark, tragic day that I witnessed firsthand that included our Capitol Police being assaulted, 140 of them injured, two pipe bombs, one — one Capitol police officer killed, and a protester killed.
That’s not — that’s not a good day. And I think it should have been prevented had we had good intelligence that day beforehand. And, look, I support law enforcement. Like this D.C. crime bill we were passing, I support law enforcement everywhere, especially at the United States Capitol.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you on the other side of an upcoming commercial break about the hearing you just held on Afghanistan.
But, before I do that, I want to quickly ask you about what we’ve been talking about, with the Treasury Secretary saying no government bailout for this Silicon Valley Bank, but they are trying to take some action.
She didn’t give a lot of detail there. I know Austin is a start-up hub in your home state of Texas. How concerned are you about spillover here?
REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: Yes, we do have South by Southwest this weekend, a lot of tech.
Yes, I am concerned, I hope it’s more of an isolated event, because the assets were very — it was all just technology sector and it wasn’t diversified, also, as the secretary mentioned these low interest bonds. And I think part of the problem, Margaret, is, in this inflationary time, the Reserve, Federal Reserve, now is raising interest rates, and that, I think, is part of the problem as well.
We want to make sure this is — this is an isolated event, and not a systemic event that could impact things like in 2008…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: … when we did bailout the financial sector.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All right, I have got to take that break now.
And we’ll come back and continue our conversation in a moment.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to FACE THE NATION.
We want to return now to our conversation with House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul.
Now, Chairman, I mentioned that you held this hearing on Afghanistan this past week, and it was pretty emotional.
REP. MICHAEL MCCAUL (R-TX): Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re really examining the chaotic withdrawal from that country. And you had a Marines Corps sergeant, injured in the suicide bombing, who testified that he was an eyewitness and he actually saw the suicide bomber before the attack. He testified he has never been interviewed as part of the U.S. investigation.
How was this overlooked?
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: I think it’s very — well, first of all, very powerful testimony. Very emotional. But very devastating and damaging to the administration. These – these snipers and troops were put at HKIA, surrounded by the Taliban.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The airport in Kabul.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: They put the Taliban in — in Kabul. That’s the HKIA airport. And surrounded by the Taliban who were put in charge. And that was the first mistake in the chaos that we heard that happened that day and the State Department virtually non-existent.
I think the most dramatic thing, Margaret, was the fact that this sniper had the suicide bomber in his sights and an intelligence bulletin went out, you know, describing him. He said, this is — this meets the description, meets with the team, PSYOPS, psychological operations get together, they run this up the chain of command and the commanding officer says, I don’t have the authority. And then they said, who does have the authority for permission to engage, and the commanding officer says, I don’t know, and he never got back to them.
The point is, they could have taken out this threat. But then, when the suicide bomber went off, not only did Marine Sergeant Vargas Andrews have his leg blown off and his arm, but we had 140 Afghans killed, 13 service men and women killed.
I talked to the mother of one of the Marine sergeants.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: I gave her just a hug. She was so devastated. In addition to 50 injured, including Marine Sergeant Vargas Andrews.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: And it could have been avoided.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, to the point of how it could be avoided. You know, you – you hear it, there were intelligence failures. Events just got ahead of planning.
The State Department argues that they’ve briefed Congress more than 150 times since the withdrawal. What information do you need that you don’t have yet?
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: Well, I think the compelling testimony we got from the sniper. We’ve never heard this before. In fact, Margaret, this is the first open hearing we’ve had on Afghanistan since the fall of Afghanistan. And I intend to move forward with this investigation. And I what to know what the commanding officer was thinking when he denied permission to take out the threat and how — what levels did it go to within the United States government? I think those are all very important questions.
And the State Department has not been compliant with our document requests. I met with the secretary. We had a very cordial conversation. Cooperation is always key. But they’re not cooperating. If he fails to cooperate with my document production request by, you know, the time he testifies on March 23rd, I am prepared to issue a subpoena.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And issue — issue a subpoena for Antony Blinken to come testify before your committee. What exactly do you think he’s withholding? What’s the documents?
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: No, he is – he — he will be testifying, but we have an outstanding document production request that the lawyers are very combative. I think the secretary, in good faith, has told me he wants to cooperate with this investigation, be transparent to the American people, but we’re not seeing that with the lawyers handling this on the ground. So, we need these documents because a lot of this stuff, to your point, Margaret, has never been brought out to the public.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes. This is the dissent cable specifically that you are requesting, that is people within the State Department disagreeing with the policy that was the administration’s planning?
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: It’s a dissent cable. The extraordinary measure to have 23 members of the State Department at the embassy dissenting with the policy.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL MCCAUL: The after action report from the ambassador. But also the plan of evacuation. Just a simple plan of evacuation. What was your plan? They have failed to deliver that to Congress. Those are three key, you know, areas that we want to see compliance with.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
All right, Congressman, we will be watching that. I know there are a number of other issues we’ll talk to you about sometime soon, including China, but I’ve got to leave it there for today. [Transcript End]
The Republicans — like Kennedy, Pence, McCaul are such duplicitous traitors. At least demoncrats consistently spew the expected bs. RINOs should just change parties.
Exactly. However, 30 Pence, McCain….er….McCaul and “Corn Pone” Kennedy (as opposed to Corn Pop) are not the only GOPe WEF traitors who spoke out and are opposed to Tucker Carlson’s release of a tiny portion of the J6 videos that destroy their Hollyweird type scripted “insurrection” narrative. Here’s a small list of those who spoke out. https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-tucker-carlson-jan6-fox-news-1786252
I notice that Joni Ernst, John Thune, and I saw a C-Span video with my own so called “Republican” Senator Sellyouout Moore Capito photo bombing with the traitor McConnell when he read his statement agreeing with San Fran Nan’s Capitol Police Chief description of the J6 events. The “senate” is riddled with RINO traitors that are McCuckell bootlickers.
“Corn Pone” Kennedy with his county bumpkin act and his comical anecdotes had me fooled for a while. Now he has exposed himself by his J6 🐮💩 statement standing with the rest of the RINO’s. What a 🤮 he turned out to be.
I further noticed not one of them disputed the authenticity or facts depicted in the tiny portions that have been released. These POS only attacked the messenger that destroyed their anti Trump, it’s all Trumps fault narrative. They refuse to acknowledge the truth that those videos belong to and are paid for by the taxpaying people of this country. We are entitled to see the whole truth and nothing but the truth, not some DeSantized version of it.
Yes … they’re all “LBJ’d”
Soros Candidates.
LOTS of skeletons in their closets … so … blackmailable & controlable !!!
I must say Kennedy surprises/upsets me … so … SENATOR Kennedy … 4 questions:
1. Did you call President Trump ?
2. What day did you call President Trump ?
3. Did you tell/suggest President Trump choose J6 for his Rally ?
4. Why?
You do realize that if President Trump hadn’t held this rally on Jan. 6 that Congress would have carried out their imaginary “take-over” of the capital anyway. At least now we have tons of reliable video as opposed to only the made-for-teevee version that Congress wants to show us.
No, they are far more valuable to the Uniparty, as RINOS, than they would be as declared Dems.
Without the constant enabling of the establishment R’s, the Dem party would be a permanent minority party.
Now that’s an interesting perspective, dutchman; in all my years of recognizing that most of the repubs in congress were collaborators of the dems, I never considered that it was their very collaboration which enabled the communist party (aka democrats) to flourish so amazingly well.
I remember well the bologna McCain (maverick — ha ha ha :-() used to peddle about the virtues of bi-partisanship. (Gag; where’s the vomit bag?). He fashioned himself the very epitome of what it means to “walk across the aisle.” What he failed to tell us was that those dems across the aisle were not the patriots with whom a walk across the aisle would be warranted — no; they were committed “agents of change.” And still are!
And if I were Manchin of West Virginia, I’d get myself out of that commie outfit pronto, before the rest of the nation gets wise to the machinations of the democrat party.
McCain played that role for decades.
Here’s the difference between Democrats and Republicans: Democrats stab you in the front, while Republicans stab you in the back!
“Jump on in, Mike! The water’s fine!” (Pence to McCaul, thinking he is going to skate)
Even better … LOL !!! … JUDASpence thinking he will “skate” into the presidency.
McCaul = Another useless idiot!
In Texas he has always been called No Wall McCaul.
We’re gonna need a bigger gallows..
We are living a Constituitional Crisis because of Pence’s cowardly act.
Agree, Pence could have done the right thing and avoided the Constitutional Crisis we are in currently. He is a traitor.
Pence’s only qualification was that he was going to stab Trump in the back if it came to that. So, there was never any chance he would do anything else. People talk about Mark Short etc, but it’s ultimately Pence that decided what he was going to go with, and the J6 frame-up job (or color revolution, or whatever you want to call it) provided the perfect (and planned) excuse for them to do what they wanted to do. This was likely all choreographed and executed in a synchronized manner.
We need to pummel Mc Caul’s office with calls, emails, etc. to let him know NO Capital Police officers were killed. Does anyone have his contact information?
https://mccaul.house.gov/contact
email for McCaul dies not work.
Even after all this time, Republicans can’t get it right. Pathetic.
Bull poopy!
The Constitutional crisis was made a fait accompli by the malign actions of Pence, the pimple on our Constitutional Republic.
Michael McPaulryan.
So bank runs are better than constitutional crisis.
McCaul’s description of that day is not correct, wow. Has been saying that all along?
The list of betrayers is long.
The task before us is almost inconceivable in scope.
But there is no turning back from what lies ahead, and that which must be accomplished.
What is wrong with the state of Texas? God help us and please get rid of these traitors for good.
Not just Texas. Every state has a RINO problem (my senator is Lyndsey Graham).
From the Communist Goals, 1963:
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1561529/posts
Got more respect for Spiro Agnew than Mike Pence.
Another phony Republican!
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Rich guy married to the daughter of the founder of Clear Channel.
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If Trump is elected president in 2024 how is ever going to work with these people?
Most seem to be against him.
He has to bring in entirely his own people; and start scouting the minors for replacing all the ones he will have to fire. There are some very good and hard working smart and loyal people, who are being held down in the ranks, that would do a great job if they got the chance… People who very much care about integrity and a good conscience.
“If Trump is elected president in 2024 how is ever going to work with these people?
Most seem to be against him.”
Against most other Americans too
Senators and Representatives can not be “recalled”, or impeached, they can only be removed from office by “censure” or,….by a Public demand that gets so strident it can not be denied.
Think Weiner or Huma’s hubby, or Franken.
They “voluntarily resign” or if close to election, announce they aren’t running again.
The thing is, WE don’t REALLY set the limits, they do.
It’s almost always for sexual peccadillos, and almost never for Financial “improprieties”; WHY is that? Sure, texting pics of your member to minors is aggregious, and definitely grounds for a forced resignation, it’s common knowledge the corruption is rampant and blatant, and based on the few who have resigned for financial improprieties, it’s NOT “grounds” for a groundswell of public opinion demanding resignations.
Because it is NOT “US, the People that decide, it is the MSM. And WE let them.
Point is, there IS, theoretically a way to”clean House (and the Senate) by demanding the corruptocrats resign.
And there’s the problem.
Need a MAGA congress as much – if not more – than a MAGA president.
The House of Representatives is the real prize. MAGA House in control of the purse strings would go a long way in draining the swamp.
Notice where the RINOs go to spread their lies Margaret Brennan is part of the corrupt government run media. She is a lying snake like her lying RINO guest.
ALL of them that certified the stolen election, committed Treason. And the J6 ‘coup’ is now proven to be, a histrionic farce. Let the Tribunals begin!
Absolutely right! But how come all we hear is . . . (CRICKETS)
What happened to the Oath they all take in the Military and Law Enforcement? Does Chain of Command take precedence over honoring one’s vow to loyalty?
No. They CREATED a Constitutional crisis when they declared war on We The People by overthrowing the President who we elected on November 3, 2020.
And THEN completing the coup on January 6, 2021 with the help of
Mike Pence.
These particular very disliked people ganging up on President Trump causes me to think even more that they have zero insight about how they are seen.
And do they really think they won’t get swallowed by the Trump quicksand they just stepped into?
I love when another beam of sunlight reveals more stench of the swamp. With each bit of truth revealed, more swamp creatures step out into the light — before they are caught with their hands dirty —
They walk out proactively, dressed in their finest — confident that we can’t see then for what they are.
They think they don’t stink and have no idea how their BS grates at our ears, or how much they reek of putrid swamp water, which smells of the decaying life of our loved ones they have been feeding on.
No!!!
Traitor Pence created a crisis!!!!
McCaul should read this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/12/the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection/
How many people actually still watch these Sunday Morning Propaganda shows? Whoever does, I don’t know why.
Any “Republican” (other than Donald Trump who skillfully makes a mockery of them) that goes on Deface the Nation, This Weak, Fox Snews Sunday, Meet the Depressed, etc. set off my “Suspicious Cat” reaction.
Why do these “RINO’s” think they are going to placate the State Propaganda Press?…..Unless they are like this Congress Critter that want to spread the Washington District of Corruption pre-determined script and to get kudos from the Marxist, WEF Uniparty leftist. 🤔 I guess many uninformed sheeple are still fooled by this nonsense. 😬
FU Mikey. That is all.
McCaul is outright scum. He’s pushing this country and our citizens into a bloody war. He is a coward who won’t debate Tucker but throws Americans into war to excite Brennan and get his press.
It would appear that they (uniparty etc.) kow the J6 TRUTH is coming out soon so they are trying to control the narrative. Pence is a traitor yet did/doing exactly what the establishment told him and is now telling him to do. Pence is part of a conspiracy along with McConnell, Pelosi and many others who can’t afford sunlightut, but the sunrise is coming . I have not been a McCarthy fan but cautiously give him credit for holding the line on release of the J6 videos. The truth needs to and will set the J6’ers free. Unfortunately I believe this regime will go to war with Russia before admitting the truth about J6 or any other of their innumerable failures. FJB and the horse he rode in on.
if there is a Treeper who lives in this idiot’s state, can you please send him the brilliant analysis from regitiger… not that he’ll acknowledge any truth to it, but it would be “on record”. Godspeed…
My apologies to the horse.
Rumor, I would be happy to. Apologies, I am not familiar with regitiger. Would you please post a link so that I could print the analysis and gleefully hand deliver it to his district office. TIA
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/12/the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection/
Thank you!
McCaul… Another Texas Steer.
indeed . . lol
Yeah, the misguided and without integrity Pence did prevent the “Constitutional Crisis” of actually protecting and defending the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic; by shutting down the real protectors and defenders!
Its really hard to accept, but you really can’t make anyone see or believe or think anything. God makes of them what He finds them to be in their innermost heart.
Don’t et tuPence L00K Jest like this Traitor :http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cvo4jwbe8wE/SfeHNAeGmrI/AAAAAAAACXo/TGzAjsmckos/s400/shaw%2Bbulge.jpg
Who’s this? Looks like he’s with the mafia.
What an abominable liar. I cannot get over how far from the truth these people will treat, while smiling and assuring you of their righteousness. We are all getting a sharply focused picture of the human obstacles that faced our Lord and Savior as he delivered his to the religious/political authorities of His day. This is their “hour,” in the “power of darkness.” And meanwhile those that we believe are supposed to be keeping up the watch, are sleeping the moment away!
(Sorry, had to edit what I wrote so it would make better sense, especially to me). What an abominable liar. I cannot get over how far from the truth these people will tread, while smiling and assuring you of their righteousness. We are all getting a sharply focused picture of the human obstacles that faced our Lord and Savior as he delivered his message to the religious/political authorities of His day. This is the “hour,” in the “power of darkness” for those so-called authorities. And meanwhile those that we have believed and relied upon to keep the watch, are sleeping this moment away!
McCaul has never read our US Constitution.
Um, no!
Don’t cotton to his version of the Savior supposedly doing the right thing. Weak sauce!
And NO by the way, the country got up close and cozy with VP Pence that day. Did not like what they witnessed, otherwise he would be leading all polls.
But alas for him, he choose his hill, but lost the battle.
Creep!
Any so called Republican who goes on msnbc regularly is a POS.
I hate these people
Michael McCaul is not the brightest penny among shining objects.
I’d be hard pressed to think of anyone that plays and looks the part of a pompous D Bag better than that dude. Wow, looks to be about 5 ft tall as well. Maybe not, but his oversized cranium looks too big for his body.
Why is he still an elected representative? Do his voters agree with him? then they don’t have anything to do with MAGA or Trump.
He doesn’t get, or need votes or the voters, all he needs is BALLOTS.
If ballot fraud is what we know it is, and is only done to benefit Democrat candidates, how is it that there are ANY Republicans in office?
Do you REALLY believe McConnell, who was polling at 30 percent, won in Kentucky?
Or Graham in S. Carolina?
Election fraud benefits Uniparty candidates, both R and D, and is used to prevent MAGA Candidates from winning.
McCaul is a greasy scum bag dripping in Chamber of Commerce money. A Romney look alike and want a be. Get this RINO out.
Pence saved the Constitution so well the had to revise the Law.
Yes and military juntas avoid constitutional crises too by ignoring constitutional constraints.
Empty words from an empty suit.
Hey Mikey, it’s more like he avoided The Constitution than he avoided a constitutional crisis. If you believe what Pence did was the right thing, then you are on the wrong side of America. Leave the GOP, join the Demo-Socialists and show your true allegiance.
95% of the usg’s activities are a Constitutional Crisis. we’ve been in Constitutional Crisis for over 100 years.
Trump 2024
“Nooooooooo, we’re legitimate, respect us, shut up, pay your taxes, send us your sons and daughters, take your jabs, use our CBDC, give up your automobile-based mobility, and obey us!”
Fauci: “I am the science.”
Congress: “We are your rulers. NOT your ‘representatives’, your RULERS.
https://westernrifleshooters.us/2023/03/12/psa-know-your-skills-use-them-for-freedom/
Just read, no upvoting
Congressman McCaul: “Avoided a Constitutional Crisis” on January 6?
BS!
And what was the cost/price for avoiding dealing with the Charges of Voter/Election Fraud?
The Brennan mouthpiece is spinning the conversation protecting the traitorous Xi-O’Biden adminstration. The damage to the nation from how the Afghan withdrawl was planned betrayal, not ineptness.
McCall must be an anti Trumper, they never quit. Why? They are generally paid or blackmailed into opposing any loss of power from DC. It is a Cabal. And it is normally lock step with the Globalist Cabal, and they never act in the interest of the USA or the citizens of the USA.
It is TIME, to Expose em ALL.
It is TIME to Restore the Constitution
It is TIME to DownSize DC!
The level of stupid is unquantifiable.
Not stupid, all part of the plan.
Agreed, he demonstrates the level of evil and corruption that our nation has achieved.
Just another ‘rubber stamp’. Geez.
McCaul and Margaret…. IMESHO, a complete waste of time and electrons. Fortunately, the viewing audience is relatively small, and how many people really care about what they say??? Apparently there is a podcast called “Fake the Nation”??? Maybe some viewers got confused.
Looks like Judas Pence is the next chump to announce his candidacy, buying DeSwampis some more time to get primed by the likes of The Blaze and Fox News.
Pence thinks the media will be kind to him because he says nasty things about Trump. No clue that he was a useful tool.
Pence was the one who torpedoed Mike Flynn and was a key player in stealing 2020 from MAGA. Regardless of who was in D.C. Jan 6, the congressional session would have been ended before the introduction of any motions to examine fraud. That is why the fake pipe b**b.s. we’re planted.
This! 👆
Pence WAS/is the Page/Stzrok “insurance policy. He was the inside man, the mole. He torpedoed Mike Flynn. He also guarded himself & his political position at every turn.
I recognized his duplicity when he “debated” the idiot who I now the so-called VeePOTUS. (I think she is merely a Veejayjay candidate to satisfy those who worship diversity over competence). Pence face always has a pinched forehead that shows he is overly concerned about every word he utters, while unconcerned about his “opponent.” His face is not honest.
I read during the Trump years, I believe in a post or thread on this website. Someone mentioned Pence’s comment regarding President Trump’s future, something to the effect of “Don’t worry about that.”
He was not a fan. He was the DS rudder, keeping the ship on course, no deviation from the plan. We the People were never a concern for the DC insiders, and especially for Mike Pence. He was prepared to betray the American people, if necessary, as many times as needed to achieve his political goals.
His first VP public debate against the current VeePOTUS in 2016 showed his true face. It has always been the same.
Pence vetted Barr no doubt.