Let me qualify this post and question by saying this is something I have wanted to ask and write about for quite a while. I often ask this question to people I meet in general life discussion, and I am very interested to hear every response. Today is a great day to ask this…
Think back… So, you are living your life, doing what you and everyone familiar to you are doing in the ordinary and regular way of living your specific life.
Perhaps you paid some attention to the political comings and goings of things, perhaps not.
Perhaps like most comfortably invisible people you were just putting one foot in front of the other, and generally doing the day-to-day things that most would consider ordinary.
Then one day, for some unknown and likely not that consequential reason, something caught your attention. Something piqued your curiosity; perhaps you noticed something you wouldn’t ordinarily have noticed. Perhaps you heard something, or saw something, or were just in a situational space where something itched your brain as you looked at something, heard something or noticed something that just didn’t quite fit or sit right.
Perhaps that little something, or big something, caused you to look just a little bit closer at the story, event or moment with a little more curiosity than before. Perhaps you dug into that specific moment with a little more than a side-eye glance, and you noticed something. After looking at it a little closer, you realized that construct was not at all what it appeared to be on the surface.
From that moment forward, for the first time, you really started to question the ‘thing’ that was in front of you, and from that moment forward, you woke up to recognize that things around you, things you perhaps didn’t pay attention to before, were not what you thought they were. It was from this moment when you really started to pay attention and your political awakening began.
Question: When was that moment for you?
I am always amazed at the replies I get in real life to this question of when the individual awakening began.
For some it was at an early age, for others much later in life. For some it was recently, and for others it was a long time ago. However, for everyone there was that moment when it started, and it is completely unique to the individual.
So, on this day, Sunday February 19, 2023, a generally innocuous day in the grand scheme of things, I pose this question to everyone.
Yes, even all the CTH lurkers who read here and never join the conversation. The comment section is open for all replies with the general rules of on-line decorum still standing. Us old schoolers still use the early internet standards of on-line discussion, and CTH requests polite and civil conversation that enlightens, expands thinking and uplifts the audience.
I am genuinely curious and will be reading every reply because it’s really cool to see what that “moment” was for each person. I’m pretty sure the entire CTH community will also enjoy reading the unique replies to the question.
We all travel a different path. We all come from different, likely comfortably invisible, life experiences. And we all merge into this big melting pot of curious people who are looking deeply at the issues we face. Regardless of how each of us arrived here, the larger dynamic is that we likely share a common curiosity for the reality of our situation. It’s a safe bet to say that almost everyone reading this is in the top-tier of “high information” consumers.
My question is not what arrived you at The Conservative Treehouse, but rather what the moment was when you began looking around and realizing that things just didn’t seem to add up. That’s the origin of the journey. That’s the moment I am inquiring about.
Perhaps it’s a weird way of looking at CTH, but our fellowship is always what has been the most important aspect to this little corner of the internet. It’s not the content of the Treehouse, but the conversation on the porch that matters. You, the readers, friends, people who assemble here, are the important element. Not me and not the site admins.
That’s genuinely the way I have always looked at our fellowship, and that’s also the reason for every detail I put into keeping this little corner of the internet standing.
So, with that in mind, what was that moment in your life when you realized the social, political and/or media narrative, was not at all what it was presented to be?
Love to all,
~ Sundance
Sean Smith, Chris Stevens, Rone woods & Bubs Doherty.
Then, the Dallas police officers funeral.
After that, I could not unsee the strings.
35 years in a mail truck listening to Rush ( not the band) on the radio. As a kid I was always interested in broadcasting and El Rushbo was so damn good I liked him before even fully recognizing the message. I was drawn in whenever he would focus on the media and what unscrupulous frauds and liars they were. The Lewinsky episode and the Clarence Thomas hit jobs totally brought me into the light,since then I see things very clearly. Thanks Rush, I sure do miss you.
My epiphany started in the late 1960s, with the contrast between the revelers at Woodstock and the grunts in Vietnam. I came to realize the distortions of the MSM and the mendacity of our “leaders”. It took a little longer for me to realize how rigged the game was. Once the Church Committee (1974) brought light to the evil of the CIA, NSA, and FBI my focus became clearer. The similarities between the late 60s and today show how little things have changed, as described in my recent Substack essay: https://williame72.substack.com/p/were-in-a-time-like-no-otherreally
For me it wasn’t a “Saul on the road to Damascus” moment, but rather a series of events over a period of years. I grew up in a conservative household (father was career military) and from an early age – Reagan era – I’d at least paid attention to whom the cast of characters was in Washington.
I think the period of time that really made me question my country and government was post-9/11. I voted for George W Bush twice and was steadfastly supportive of him in the immediate aftermath of 911. I thought there was real quality in the administration – W himself, Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, etc. – people of integrity and character who would be honest with the American people. So when they said WMD’s, I listened. And trusted. However, I couldn’t understand why we then invaded Afghanistan. Then came the Patriot Act and the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security. It was such an egregious overreach of government control that is was clear to me then it wasn’t about making America safer. There was another motivation(s).
Then, a few years later, reading about the actual events of 9/11 with an already healthy dose of skepticism about the Patriot Act and DHS, there were just too many coincidences, incredibly improbable series of events, and I knew then the government’s official response wasn’t close to the truth of what actually happened. In other words, they lied about the biggest event to happen to the U.S. in the modern era. It’s not an insubstantial thing to be forced to acknowledge the government of a country you love is dishonest and corrupt.
Subsequent to that, movies like JFK and Enemy At The Gate resonated with me differently than they might have before. Is it art imitating life or the other way around? As you’re fond of saying, Sundance, once you’ve seen the strings on the puppet, you can’t unsee them. Then when events like Benghazi occur, your Spidey Sense is tingling and you immediately know something isn’t right. You’re fundamentally changed and the prism through which you take in and process information is different. I’m working diligently to teach my kids to think critically about current events so they can get the benefit of insight and discernment early in their lives.
So, Sundance, the moment I started paying attention wasn’t an actual moment but rather a series of moments.
Carter woke me up to how government can be so wrong. “Bomb Iran was everywhere” and we were forced to look at the incompetence that carter brought. 55mph and top speed on speedometers was 85 the gas rationing. I remember how stagnant the economy was with interest rates. It was a small depression where I lived and we were an agricultural farming area which carter was said to be helping. People had to run propane to get crops in and out, transition a whole country in a matter of months.
Farmers overcame in great numbers no thanks to carter. Now the government is back at it but they pay farmers to stop farming, it’s all really unbelievable. Americans should have a “fail safe” that removes these people from power immediately when they destroy so much and kill so many, or steal without conscience.
How many wars are necessary for us?
when i was 54 years old..on June 20, 2015….When I was sitting at an outdoor bar-b-que with my future son-in-law’s family …..
The topic of “Trump announced he was running for president that week”.
I never took any interest in politics up to that point in time. ….when they went “bizzerk” and started bad-mouthing Trump and laughing at the folly of him running for office…..I was amazed at the venom and hatred for him….
THAT was the moment I started investigating and paying attention…
1. Being in the Peace Corps in the early 70s in Afghanistan & So. Korea;
2. Reading Milton Friedman & Ayn Rand in the late 70s;
3. Listening to Rush Limbaugh for 30+ years with my wife until Rush died.
We learned through Rush that we weren’t alone in our thinking. Now, when everyone is finally waking up to the Marxist/globalist attempts to control all of our institutions and destroy our sovereignty, we weren’t surprised.
Unfortunately, my sweetheart was murdered by the CDC protocols in 4/21 being treated with Remdesivir which is all part of the CCP and WEF’s plan.
Really happy I found TCT which continues to expose the insane policies of the “Swamp” and the Great Reset.
when Susan Rice went on Sunday TV talk shows and repeatedly lied about Benghazi. it was so fake and contrived and I realized I was being played.
It’s such an individual question, I don’t think it can ultimately answer much, though I grant the answers are interesting to read.
I began being politically aware pretty early, because the President of the US was murdered when I was in elementary school. At that age I figured if there were people willing to kill the president, willing to violate what seemed to me to be at that age every norm of civilization, then (in a sense) no one was safe. It was the first step in my becoming a pacifist, but of course others reacted oppositely and became preppers.
We go through experiences or hear about things, and react in unpredictable ways. I’m not convinced our primarily emotional reactions lead to any lasting understanding of truth. The things we react to shape beliefs. It doesn’t make our beliefs valid.
Poking for emotional response is how tyrants eventually get control of people. The key to strategic success is to learn to live above emotions and not let them determine your reactions.
You brought up some interesting points. 🙂
In the late 1970s, when I was in my early 20s, I read Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. It shone a bright light on humanity from a completely different perspective–what life and society look like with no rule of law and no respected bill of rights that protects the individual. (USSR under Lenin and Stalin) From that time on I always saw those things as the most important aspect of politics.
i just finshed the gulag for the third time. i am 74. respects.
Reading through all these responses, it’s surprising how many of us had similar experiences with Rush at the epicenter. Or maybe it’s not so surprising.
Rush opened a lot of eyes, and Al Gore’s invention (the internet) made it possible for like-minded people to find each other.
I knew the Clinton’s were pure scum before they got into the White House house, but the TWA Flight 800 shoot down (July 1996) cover up was what did it for me. I won’t go into detail, there’s a lot of info out there, but the icing on the cake was that preposterous CIA video (a friggin’ cartoon) they produced to justify their fuel tank explosion narrative.
I read / watch the news every day and nary a day has gone by since where some government apparatchik hasn’t insulted my intelligence with a line of BS.
The best line of the day Clivus!
“I read / watch the news every day and nary a day has gone by since where some government apparatchik hasn’t insulted my intelligence with a line of BS.
The GM bailout got my attention, and the IRS targeting and all the nonsense with the failed hard drives/ no backups nonsense secured it.
a bailout 24 billion of which was never paid back. i reminded a car salesman of that at a Cadillac dealship in grand blanc, mi once when we were discussing prices. his blank stare told me all i needed to know.
The high handed manner in which they threw law out the window and subordinated notes and bonds to shareholders just boggled my mind.
I was 12 years old in 1952 and we were told we cannot chase the MIGs across the Yalu river because Russia might enter the war. They would have to defend a 2,000 mile railroad to enter the war.
Later there was a made for TV movie and the cast included Henry Fonda as General Douglas Mac Arthur and E.G. Marshall as President Harry S. Truman. They met on Wake Island and Marshall says to Fonda, “It is okay for you to keep Harry Truman waiting , but not the President of the United States.” The truth: When the President landed, MacArthur was immediately put on the plane, there was no waiting. The movie went on to blame MacArthur for losing the war.
I suggest you find and read “An American Caesar” by William Manchester.
I’ve also been disillusioned by George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and others because I thought they were on our side. Mitch McConnell, I knew he was sleaze. I trust Mitch very slightly more than Chuck Schumer.
“I trust Mitch very slightly more than Chuck Schumer.”
that’s a mistake. mcconnell is a better liar than schumer….by far.
It was Bush v. Gore, the Florida recount. I had some free time and was able to watch the different cable channels. As a lawyer I saw absurd reporting about the lawsuit by the different networks. The glowing reports about the cross examination of the inventor of the ballot reading machine. When, in fact, the cross examination was absurd. That was the moment! It was then that I started to see the extreme bias of the different networks. That led to the outright ignorance of the law (or, more accurately, the abuse of the law) by the system. I had finally woke up to the bias, the misreporting.
Prior to that I was too busy with life to analyze what the “news” was. It was then that I started to examine the news and look behind it for the truth. It certainly was not the “news” media.
Eventually, news radio became a passion. All of them. But even many of them were tainted. The only real ones were Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage. Hannity, Levin, Fox, Newsmax – all shills. Unfortunately, after Rush passed, I don’t listen to radio at all now. The “rerun” attempt was futile, should have tried Bongino or the Canadian.
Now its CTH, thelibertydaily, and X22report. I just pray that X22 is right.
“The Magic Bullet” from the JFK Assassination did it for me. I started to question everything political from that moment on.
I worked as an auditor and fraud examiner at the Government Accountability Office. My work took me all over the federal government, including working with congressional staff and committees. My work also took me to State and Local government, universities, and government contractors.
It was common for even junior staff when I started to get eased into going up to Capital Hill to deliver things to Congressional staff, or committee staff. As your career progressed it wasn’t unusual to work directly with congressional staff both up on the Hill and when we went on the road to conduct audits. Sometimes we were assigned to work directly with a Congressional committee.
By the time I retired, junior staff (under GS-14 equivalent level) interaction with Congressional staff was becoming less and less frequent. For the most part, it was becoming restricted to GS-15 equivalent and Senior Executive Level staff who interacted with Congressional staff.
The point of all that is to say I got a very good inside look at what goes on at all levels of government, government contractors, universities, U. S. Attorneys, grantees, and even small businesses.
All of those experiences gave me an inside look at how the Federal Government impacts the entire country in one way or the other. When they say follow the money…well when you do that for a living you get a very good education on what slips through the cracks.
For those of us who had “Hill” experience, including working for Congressional committees you get a real close-up look at what goes on and it isn’t what you learn in a high school or college class.
It’s a real eye opener.
Yes, a bit off topic, but watch until the end. If true, explains alot.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRtwPYah/
I had an opportunity to get in the door as a page and then work my way up through the staffer levels. I won a trip from accomplishments and we all were taken through DC and given a chance to decide if that was what we wanted. I almost went for it.
In retrospect, I am so glad I didn’t.
Although I must say, getting an invitation to Reagans inaugural ball (well, one of a bazillion) years later was a cause for a grin.
Although I have always followed politics, as my father was involved in our home town, I never really understood things wern’t what they seemed until I started listening to Rush Limbaugh, sometime around 2014. Then when President Trump started running for President, I became more interested. When I realized we had a problem was when I started reading The Conseevative Treehouse in 2015. I have been following you and Bannon’s Warroom ever since. NO DOUBT you opened my eyes. I have tried to pass on to my friends your words of wisdom. Thank You for fighting for the truth.
august 6th, 2015. the first republican debate when wallace, baier and kelly tried to take out then candidate donald trump. i knew then the swamp was deep, infested with a poisonous cancer and was completely out of control. always conservative but i really had my eyes opened on that day.
i won’t get fooled again.
What sparked my distrust in the government was the events on and after May 4, 1970 at the Kent State University campus.
The Vietnam war had been raging for 5+ years already and every town in America was being affected by it. I was a junior in high school in a town of approximately 12,000 people and would be eligible for the draft 3 months after graduating the next year. An accident in late ’70 left me with a physical deferment from the draft but did not lessen my growing distrust of those that we the people elected to serve us. I organized and helped organize a few small protests against the war in the next 3 years to stop the useless slaughter and bring all the boys home. As I matured and fell into the daily grind of adult responsibilities I became less interested in politics understanding that most politicians are self serving. I pray for America as thee woke left attempts to destroy the moral fabric that is the America I still love.
It’s like when did you first notice getting older. It happened seemingly slow but then you look in the mirror one morning and say who’s that.
“Hanging Chads”, 2000 It seems like Chicago is the training ground for ALL dems. They’re disgusting!
I can tell you the exact day that I began to be skeptical of our government.
It was at the beginning of the Persian Gulf war and GHW Bush was making a speech to a joint session of Congress, explaining to the American people why we along with a coalition of partners were attacking Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi army chasing them out of Kuwait.
It was 9/11/1990.
“We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge: a new era — freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony.”
I remember being a young wife and Mother and thinking what the heck is he talking about, a New World Order?
For me, that’s when my husband and I woke up.
I’ve always been for liberty, for as long as I can remember. The principles of liberty and freedom were expressed to me by my parents, especially my mother. “You get to do what you want as long as you don’t hurt someone else”, that’s the overall concept. So I grew up with these principles. In the second semester of my freshman year of college (spring 1976), my “speech” professor didn’t like my libertarian approach to life nor my self confidence, and set out to relentlessly ridicule me during class. This guy was a tyrant, he attempted to “cancel” me before there was such a term. I noticed about half the class went along with him (sheeple) but others saw what he was up to and didn’t follow. One day, after a particularly controversial discussion in his class he called me into his office and threatened me. He said I was not to express myself again in his class or my grade would be severely affected. He threatened to take away my freedom of speech! This floored me. I thought college was the place to exchange ideas of all kinds, with respect for those speaking. As I look back on this event in my life I see this was the beginning of the takeover of higher education by totalitarians. (I didn’t knuckle under to this tyrant and he did not reduce my grade. He knew he couldn’t justify it to the administration. The school was still administer by rational people.)
Wow, Sundance asking the right questions again.
About 8 months into the Obama regime, I began to ask, What is happening to my country? I kind of have to thank him for getting me off the sidelines.
There were inklings and questions before then (reading None Dare Call it Conspiracy, voting for Ross Perot) but I found politics to be complicated and confusing and remained largely apolitical, because there were other pressing issues in my life that took up all my attention.
So why are some people apolitical?
Two wonderful ladies I know, they had drug problems, went to prison, turned to the Lord while in there, and are now doing very well running their own businesses. They have been in survival mode for a long time, and still have to deal with serious issues with their children. There is no buffer in their life to be political.
We who are aware and engaged are fighting for the apolitical as well.
”An Appeal to Heaven…..”
Our only hope.
I pray the prayer. I fly the flag. I wear the shirt… EVERY. DAY.
I joined the Army in 1989 at age 18 feeling the afterglow of the R. Reagan years. I was 18 so not very well informed but full of the “American Spirit” and ready to get some adventure in. In 1995 I was married and a father of 2 but a bit curious about why I was headed to Bosnia. Did not trust B. Clinton at all (I was from AR and had met the man once just before I went to basic tng) and from a historical basis a lot was just off. But the income was decent even for enlisted and I had a family. By the time we were tangled up in Kosovo too I knew the US was just another meddling tyrant, then 9/11 (happened while I was in Kosovo).
Once I heard G. Bush say that Islam wasn’t the enemy I absolutely knew that we were in deep doo doo as a nation and about to prosecute an un winnable war because we wouldn’t acknowledge the enemy. By now I had over 10 years in so it was keep head down and survive to the end (wound up in Iraq in 06-08 as I had some leadership training and an extra trip to Kosovo put on my plate) to support my family.
I retired in 2010 pretty much jaded about our nation that had elected Obama twice. I was fully paying attention at the point of his re election. The steady acceleration of this nation’s decline into fascism has been a bit more rapid than I had hoped and it feels to only accelerate in the last few years. I find it hard to swallow that it only took the world getting a case of the sniffles to be the final nail in our coffins, but that is how I see it.
Should the Lord tarry, and I am of the opinion that He won’t much longer, we are looking at a new Middle / Dark Ages before we see anything like a resurgence of liberty, righteousness and morality. In the coming era conserving truth will be critical to us coming out the other side. Purchase and preserve books and keep yourself from joining the sin around you. Stay in God’s Word, trust Him and expect Him to do amazing things in some. God’s Kingdom will advance today as it did in the first centuries where it is most persecuted. Today the greatest growth of the church is in Iran and Afghanistan.
For me…I started being more critically aware after Waco in 1993…that was an eye opener to me but September 11th broke the door down. The world of left right politics no longer framed reality for me…I saw evil on both sides and de-synced the idea of conservatism from GOP establishment.
My unit was rushed to Vietnam in Feb 1968 to participate in the Tet Offensive in Hue City and the surrounding area. It was shortly after arrival that I discovered we were not there to win the war and that it was being micromanaged. I had not turned 21 yet. That discovery created a strong desire for me to read everything I could, compile a knowledge of the history I was part of, and began searching over my entire lifetime to the present for why and how the Vietnam War happened… and in that process found a plethora and reams more than I ever knew existed due to politics, government, bureaucracies’ and their makeup and of course man’s desire to control others. I am still learning as the process moves along…
Eisenhower was right in his assessment of the Military-Industrial Complex… “The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”
Trump came along and it didn’t take long to figure out that he was a threat to the Complex. They (the Complex, the entire “Deep State”) have done nothing for the American people since he entered the scene. Their entire effort has been to make sure he is defeated. He has exposed the whole game of what is happening in the struggle to control a people who have enjoyed many freedoms set in motion by our founding Fathers’. The Democrat Party, Uniparty, RINO’s and etc., who want him gone have devoted their entire existence in ridding of Trump and his MAGA movement. He is the one and only person who will stand up to them and go after them in the near future… I hope he survives the onslaught…
It took that many years since 1968 for me to figure out that control of people is the all-encompassing objective of Technocrats/Politicians and the like.
The late 70’s . Oil was plentiful , gas was cheap… then bang, out of nowhere there was an energy shortage. To conserve electricity, the news told us , “Don’t put up Christmas lights”, “put your thermostat at 65”; etc… . Then the crisis seemed to disappear, almost overnight, when Reagan was elected. Prices of oil or energy never went back down though. Wow.
When slick Willy lied under oath about Monica Lewinsky
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For me, I probably had 2 instances of “paying attention”. My first was when Reagan was running for re-election in 1984. The outright lies from the media and politicians was shocking to me then. The next instance was not until 2015, when Trump was running. I then realized how much I had been fooled by the RNC, republicans and some “conservative pundits”. No coincidence that I discovered the CTH in 2015. Be well Sundance.
For me, it’s been a series of progressive awakenings. 9/11 was the catalyst as it affected me at a soul level. I started listening to talk radio and became a Fox News-watcher, believing they were the arbiter of truth. Next it was Dinesh’s movie “2012 – Obama’s America” that got me paying even more attention to the enemy that was the “Democrats”. Then Trump happened, I discovered this site and over the course of a few years, reality started hitting me pretty hard. The Uni-party, Military Industrial Complex, Sex Trafficking, NWO, etc., all became topics of near obsession. The Covid fiasco really cemented just how evil much of this world is. At this point, I believe that I can clearly see the big picture of how the world operates. It truly is a spiritual war and recently, I made a conscious decision to tune out of the day-to-day details of it all, as it just became too much. Perhaps I’ve just reached a point of being too awake.
I had inklings and ideas that I didn’t really want to contemplate around the 9/11 tragedy and even before during the Clinton years around Ruby Ridge and the strange incident with the Cuban boy. Nothing seemed to make that much sense to me but I was so busy with family and work duties that I couldn’t spend what free time I had investigating the way I can now that I am retired. My big wake up was Benghazi. I finally understood more fully what we were up against. The Obama years allowed me to see the strings that were always there but for me much more hidden. There is nothing coming out of our elected officials that I can trust. There is not one governmental department that is truly there to help us. We are on our own to find our own tribe. Thank you Sundance and all of the other Treepers for helping me along my journey.
I became a full time member in the Conspiracy theorists club 8 years ago when I got cancer and saw the pointless treatment regimens that the Doctors and Big Pharma required of we cancer patients who they thought should be grateful for their never ending poisonous treatments of chemo and radiation.
Of course, the Iraq Wars became disquieting in the back of my my mind and 9/11 was the event if you look back that should have begun the slow burn of recognition that things weren’t right. I had been studying alternative treatments for cancer even before I got it since cancer had been prevalent in my family and everywhere. When you are confronted with a very aggressive cancer, your instincts begin to sharpen rapidly.
My first treatment of a large melanoma was surgery only. I didn’t take charge of my health then and continued my lifestyle as it had been. Eight months later I got the big wake up call, another melanoma now in a lymph node free to travel up and down my lymphatic system at free will. Almost all recurrences of melanoma come in multiple places but luckily there was only one that they could find, though you could consider it very likely that there were small concentrations of cells in other areas of my body since they really can’t read all the cancer that is in your body with any real certainty.
When my oncologist confirmed that I had a second melanoma and was now a Stage 4 cancer victim…….I turned my life around in one second……I called my wife and told her I was going to do everything, and more, that I had read about about, studied and was changing every facet in my life. Of course, being the great wife she is, she said she would do it too. For that alone, I owe her everything.
I went vegan that moment because of the extensive reading I’d done, mandatory exercise everyday, sunshine, vitamin and mineral supplementation, eliminate stress (the best I could), prayer, joy, forgiveness of others, gratefulness. That was it. I did have surgery to remove the second melanoma.
I stayed vegan for 18 months and eventually added meat and dairy back to my nutrition and learned a lot about the medical nutrition our bodies need to make healthy new cells.
So, my turning point for my view of the world that if they were lying to us and directing us to money making treatments that poison your body (cancer patients don’t waste away from the cancer, the chemo and radiation eventually poison your small intestine to the point that you cannot absorb any vitamins or minerals and you starve to death because your body doesn’t work anymore.
When I realized that the Standard of Care was the curtain that doctors and hospitals hide behind….and that our state and federal governments demand these standards of cares to keep doctors from practicing commonsense medicine. And you see Big Pharma owns the media with all their ads (almost 80% of TV revenue is from Big Pharma), then you begin to realize it’s a Big Club, and we ain’t in it!
Then , as you reflect on the wars, the assassinations, the false flags, the stolen elections, the pandemics, the lying media, the poisoning of our fellow man, our families, our friends with chemtrails, GMO foods, vaccines etc. And then you see that many healthy alternatives are made illegal and the inventors or advocates of them are put in jail, you begin to see the Evil, the Real Evil, that is in our world and that the fight is larger than for your personal health, but a battle for the ages.
My biggest regret with all this is that You know what the truth is, or at least a lot of the truth, and nobody wants to hear about it, I have lost many friends to cancer after offering free and unpushy advice but almost all have not listened….many of them eventually were poisoned to death by modern medicine…always offered a new experimental regimen that just saps the absolute last ounce of life from them.
Being awake isn’t all that fun because you see so many people you care about going down the wrong path…and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it but stay true to what you have learned, hoping that eventually others will become curious to learn.
Thanks Sundance, for this chance to tell my story. I tried to keep it short. Obviously, all of our stories are interesting and important. If there is anyone out there who would like to know more about treating cancer or their chronic diseases through medical nutrition, I would be happy to share what I have learned.
First it was the Ronald Reagan election. I read the Sunday LA times regularly. Before the election, they bashed Reagan to hell and back. The day after the election, they switched 180 degrees. I cancelled my subscription.
The next significant point in time was the advent of my access to the internet around 1988-1990 and alternative news. All MSM was corrupt and untrustworthy by then.
With the election of BHO, I hoped for the best and watched him start this race war …… the beginning of our current civil war.
Since stumbling across CTH and American Thinker, these are my go-to websites. I read quite a few other sites including foreign media. My general rule is having to hear about an issue from more than one site before giving it much credibility. CTH is by far my favorite.
I wondered about aspartame added to diet soda which I drank all day every day. Which led to Rumsfeld and Searle. I’ve been aware of much much more since I went into that rabbit hole. I eat real food, drink filtered water and avoid medical and pharmaceutical industrial complexes.
The Benghazi Hearings.
I started paying attention during Watergate. I was about 12 years old. As a resident of South Dakota, I knew George McGovern, and also knew he would have been a terrible president. I was also very pro-life and devastated at the Roe v Wade decision. To me at the time it seemed like the take down of Nixon was like a bully take down of kids at school. It was obvious, even to me as a kid, that the media decided he had to go and there was nothing he could do to stop them.
I wondered why ever since. Why was the media taking sides? Why were they all so much for killing babies?? Why did Ted Kennedy get a pass for killing a woman? Why did the Democrat party have so many KKK members yet still manage to brand themselves as the party of anti racism? After watching 60 Minutes and other shows blatantly lie about various cars and trucks and even blowing them up on camera did anyone believe anything they said? Why did we just abandon the people of South Vietnam to death? Why? Why? Why?
I’ve been asking why ever since. Right up unto this very day. Why Joe Biden when he has been a stupid, blowhard buffoon his whole career? Did no one else watch the Clarence Thomas hearings? Biden is a racist moron, how does he get by saying” if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”?
Half the country, or more, is brainwashed by propaganda. Pushed by the evil that wants us all dead, in the womb if possible.
When I found this site I did find the answer to some of my questions why. So thank you for that, Sundance.
Its been a long, slow slide into reality for me. Lots of things along the way hastened the trip. Waco, Bundies, 9/11, Snowden, Assage… But the day I knew the United States were not and had not been what I thought it was, was the night of the 2020 election. Since that night, my slide has been on hyper speed. I’ve looked deeply at what has been going on in Ukraine since 2014. And other places. I think Putin hit the nail on the head when he called us the empire of lies. Everything I ever believed is now just a big heaping pile of stinking bullshit. A day of reckoning is coming, and its not far off.
For me, the discussion of the government bail outs in 2007-2008 was really my first awakening into questioning the actions of the government. I started paying some attention at this point. However, I still wasn’t fully engaged.
I voted for Obama in 2008, though due to my location in a deep red state, my vote for him didn’t really make a difference. As a black man elected to the presidency, Obama had the opportunity to finally put an end to any sort of lingering/waning racism in this country. And indeed, in 2008, racism was very much waning and disappearing.
Obama had the ultimate opportunity to stand up and say, look at what you can achieve in America, you can obtain the highest office in the land regardless of the color of your skin. Martin Luther King Jr’s dream has come to fruition, we are now a country fully agnostic to race, skin color, etc.
However, Obama went full throttle in the opposite direction and fanned the flames of racism at every possible opportunity. The damage that he did in restoring racism and specifically hatred of whites is unimaginable and insurmountable.
I think the things during Obama’s first term are what really woke me up, specifically the railroaded passage of ACA in the middle of the night a day before Christmas. Followed by the bipartisan shutdown of the Tea Party movement.
The IRS scandal, the Benghazi scandal, etc were just the cherry on top.
I started following CTH in 2017 after I kept finding links to CTH material in discussions with fellow anons.
Trump! I’ve always been very conservative but I assumed Republicans were on my side. But things never seemed to get done. They never stopped illegal immigration, etc. When Trump came on the scene, I wondered why they all went nutty (they being the media, a lot of people I know, republicans and democrats, etc). His campaign and presidency opened my eyes. The money laundering, the endless wars, immigration- both legal and illegal, etc. All of it was just one big grift. And republicans just cared about making money. Democrats made money while also taking over the institutions in this country.
Then when COVID came along, That was the moment I became a conspiracy theorist! I never used to question anything if it came from conservative/ Republican sources. Now, I question everything and trust no one!
While my mom told me Communism was here when we moved to MN, I was too busy with school and trying to earn a living and pay attention to it all.
What changed was when a Journal of Immunology removed an article published by 2 geneticists proving that Jews and Arabs living in Israel have identical DNAs. In other words, what was/is happening there is fratricide. It was in the late 90’s.
They removed every edition of that journal from every library in the US. You can’t find that article. It does not exist.
It was clear to me that I was living in the same regime with which I grew up. And it seemed that institutions were more authoritarian than what was happening at the ballot box.
That was added to billy clinton’s depo asking the definition of the word “is”.
The total disillusion happened in 2008. Once the chicago saviour, as Sundance calls him, won and I read the signs: earthquake in DC that disrupted the foundation of the national monument, questions about his real identity, my own info from when I worked in kenya, etc, it was solidified for me that I live in a new country.
The hospital policies where I worked changed in a rapid fashion to follow obamacare. The place I helped grow became a nightmare. The medical staff was like a bunch of brainless followers; from a physician led hospital it became a system bureaucrat led institution with cookie cutter approach to every patient. I fought it all along. People liked what I said in meetings but lacked the courage to do anything about it. The paycheck and the lifestyle it provided was more important that anything.
I found this site as a link from another blog one of my friends recommended. It was around 2020 when I logged in.
It has been the best source of info analysis and I am grateful for Sundance and for all who write in this blog to add to the conversation and pass on relevant info.
Thank you Sundance and to all reasonable participants for all you do.
A blessed Sunday and Lent to all.
Neil Haugerud. 1975.
He gave us a talk at a 4H meeting describing how bills become laws in our legislature.
He was a state representative at the time.
Thanks for asking. For me it has been an ongoing process. I was 11 years old when JFK was assassinated. We had no internet so it took time for differing opinions to get around. But I do remember on Friday night (11/22/63) news casters were talking about shots being fired from a “grassy knoll”. And then by Saturday there was no more talk about it and the patsy (Oswald) was presented.
By 1980 I voted for John Anderson in the presidential because I was becoming disenchanted by the system. “Read my lips” Bush was another red flag. I voted for him and expected a Reagan third term and of course that never materialized. By then we had the benefit of the Oliver Stone film (JFK) and there were literally hundreds of books on the subject. So I became aware of GHW Bush’s CIA tenure. But I still thought that you could vote out the bad guys.
I remember distinctly the night that John McCain was being interviewed and did a 180° and suddenly became an advocate for illegal immigrants. I guess that was the late 90’s and I began to ask myself what the heck is going on in DC.
On 9/11 my first reaction was “what are they doing to us now”. They being the federal government. It took me right back to 1963, and by this time I was well aware of some of the players involved in the JFK murder.
A couple of years later I took part in an effort to petition the government for redress because of some disconcerting information based on research into the validity of the income tax and the IRS as an entity. The reaction of the government was a harsh lesson. It became obvious that our relationship with the federal government was nothing like what I believed it was. That was a big one and it caused my family to conduct our personal affairs in a completely different manner going forward.
So through the Obama years we knew things were amiss. Then of course President Trump’s appearance blew the lid off. It was painfully obvious that Paul Ryan was dead set against providing funding for the wall that Trump campaigned on. I knew the Republican party was only slightly better than the Democrat. It was around this time I somehow found a link to CTH and here we sit.
I write occasionally but visit more than once a day and read all the comments to see what others are thinking.
When I read Concience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater
I always kept my eye on the political forum as I knew it affected my life, I had always voted Republican, with the exception of Ross Perot. However when George W was in office I couldn’t understand why he didn’t crack down on immigration and illegals. It didn’t make sense to me and that’s when I started to seek out news, real news.
When Obama ran, I knew about Saul Alinsky and Reverend Wright. The day he won, I cried for all the men, women and children who gave their lives for this nation, and I cried for all that was going to be.
Each year after, brought a deeper awareness of the UN, operation Mockingbird, the globalists and their agenda, including our own deep state. Finally George W’s position became clear to me and it brought a realization that 99% of the Republican party was with that faction. That’s when I lost my innocence about the goodness of this nation.
Those of us who love Trump have seen the truth, and once you see the truth, it changes you,
When I was 35 (now 60) I had NPR on my truck radio and my visiting father said why do you listen to this government propaganda? Light bulb. Then Rush flipped the switch… bam!
As a kid growing up west of Chicago during the Richard J Daley years it was the actions of the brutality of police during the 1968 Democratic convention riots constantly being shown on tv that first grabbed my attention. From then on I have been aware that nothing is as it seems. My state has had so many corrupt politicians that you would have to be blindfolded not to see. The only option is leaving as soon as we can retire.
I started paying attention during the peanut farmer’s presidency. More attention during Ronald Reagan’s run for President in 1979, Rush Limbaugh around the same time, and a few George Carlin shows in the mid to late 1980s.