The White House is trying to put the best spin on the Chinese spy balloon events by claiming the U.S. military jammed the electronics attached rendering the ability of the surveillance equipment incapable of transmission to relays (satellites) or mainland China.
Additionally, according to the White House strategic communications spokesperson John Kirby, the main structure of the electronics, optics and surveillance system has been recovered by the U.S. military and the equipment is now being studied and reverse engineered. WATCH (05:18 Prompted):
(Via Reuters) – The United States said on Friday it had successfully concluded recovery efforts off South Carolina to collect sensors and other debris from a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon shot down by a U.S. fighter jet on Feb. 4, and investigators are now analyzing its “guts.”
The last of the debris fro the Chinese balloon, which was downed by a Sidewinder missile, is heading to an FBI laboratory in Virginia for analysis, the U.S. military’s Northern Command said in a statement.
Reuters was first to report the conclusion of the recovery efforts, which were halted on Thursday.
“It’s a significant amount (of recovered material), including the payload structure as well as some of the electronics and the optics, and all that’s now at the FBI laboratory in Quantico,” said National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby.
Kirby said the United States had already learned a lot about the balloon by observing it as it flew over the United States.
“We’re going to learn even more, we believe, by getting a look at the guts inside it and seeing how it worked and what it was capable of,” he told a White House news briefing.
The U.S. military said Navy and Coast Guard vessels that had been scouring the sea for nearly two weeks have departed the area.
“Air and maritime safety perimeters have been lifted,” Northern Command said in a statement.
The U.S. military has said it believes it has collected all of the Chinese balloon’s priority sensors and electronics as well as large sections of its structure, elements that could help counterintelligence officials determine how Beijing may have been collecting and transmitting surveillance information. (read more)
Funny- these folks are saying one of the objects was they’re group hobby balloon-
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/illinois-hobby-club-believes-pentagon-shot-down-their-12-pico-balloon
If it were my balloon, I would file a tort claim.
The counter-suit could be murderously expensive.
I’m surprised anyone claimed it.
Yep – and now the FAA & Company are going to require licenses and permits and permissions for hobby balloons. Yet another activity swallowed by bureaucracy.
Be careful next time your sweetie brings home a grocery store helium balloon for your birthday party. If the darn thing gets away, you’ll be facing federal charges.
Or worse, they carpet bomb the launch site.
They may be stupid, but at least they’re consistently so…
Read the first page of this military document and you’ll understand what‘s wrong with the Armed Forces
https://www.marines.mil/portals/1/Publications/MCWP%203-10.pdf?ver=2018-09-20-112713-937
My rifle’s pronouns are 5.56 and .223
Black Rifles Matter
We should all demand magazine equity. 30 rounders for all.
Bump stocks are not just for Christmas
Critical Ammunition Theory
“Let’s tell the world our secrets!”
said the traitor
An alternate hypothesis is that none of the recovered technology is particularly secret or even that special, and that any discussion about recovery and reverse-engineering is simple narrative building.
ALREADY LEAKED that MADE in The USA Was ALL OVER the Initial Recovery Items. What PURDUE, MIT, OHIO STATE and Other Tech Centers DESIGN – CHINA HAS TAKEN.
i Drove thru Purdue Campus Today – THE MAJORITY of the Young Folks with Backpacks ARE NOT INDIANA FARM KIDS !
Same at Iowa State when my son went there.
They got the technology from us in the first place…
Yes, dmaj, the See-See-Pee did not need to even reverse engineer this American technology: it was sold to them by courtesans.
Yep!
And by sending it to the FBI, they can be confident that the truth will never be known.
All fixed.
I just learned today that CIA employees are fully aware of the fact that they DO NOT serve to protect the constitution (that document designed largely to protect the people of the (now formally) United States.
They serve themselves. The agency. The government and its corporate and BANKING arms. Implicit in that, is that the agency serves the interest of a tiny fraction of humanity. A cabal if you will….
This cabal is largely identifiable and has roots to ancient times. This cabal is known to literally worship the occult, with moloch being a primary deity.
I refer to this cabal by the name I use for its master….IT.
IT is not of flesh and blood.
Those that serve IT are doomed.
Truly, we struggle not against flesh and blood, but against powers and PRINCIPALITIES. If you haven’t comprehended it yet, I suggest you seek to do so.
This thing, IT, is actually, TRUTHfully, at war against both God our creator and all life He created.
Including us and our individual souls.
That folks, is the forest…
Rather than the trees-:)
FBI is on the job…
Checking to see the following:
If it was a Trump balloon and how to blame him.
If it was a Trump supporter balloon and how to blame all of them.
If it was really a Russian balloon, because they heart China and China would never do anything bad.
If it was a pro-lifers balloon and how to blame all of them.
If it was sentient guns that actually created the balloon and how to blame guns.
Last but not least, definitely blame others and make themselves hero’s absolving themselves and other government agencies of any failure or responsibility.
That’s about it…
Comedy on tv is rarely ever funny anymore. So at least we get some from the politicians and our institutions.
Maybe all of the politicians should be institutionalized. How much fun would that be?!
A: Lots.
I get most of my comedy appetite satiated at TCT. Fellow treepers are quite funny here.
The other best source of truly witty commentary is Jeff Childers’ “Coffee & Covid” substack.
Biden White House – best comedy around . . .
Seriously though, was it a RAYCIST balloon?
That’s next.
ONLY If You Want White RICE with it. Stir Fry Rice is Fine.
Order numbah 63, fifteen minute!
The FBI will have a never ending top secret investigation the results will come in fifty years. Congressional investigations will be wasting their time on this matter. Obfuscation, lying and grandstanding will ensue.
What if it was a Ukranian balloon? With big fancy blue and yellow panels on its side? And they shot it down … gonna be hard to ‘splain that away.
They would’ve prostrated themselves to the balloon.
You nailed it!
Reverse engineer??? Beijing steals our tech, uses it against us, and we will reverse engineer what???
I yield your point.
“Beijing steals our tech….”
How do you know positively that they steal our technology? That comes from US media and US government sources. Now that I see how much and often they lie to us, I’m no longer sure that China is stealing from us and how much or what they are stealing. Maybe they invented it first and we took it, reverse engineered it, and then patented it in the US.
I believe that they’ve definitely aquired US tech.
More than likely sold to them by the likes of the biden crime syndicate and other such ‘elite’ criminal rackets (clinton global initiative?).
The original plan included china as a full partner in subjecting humanity to this wicked ‘new world order’/’great reset’/’fundemental transformation’ foulness.
China however was just playing these fools all along, and developing into quite a nation, while fooling the demonic clowns we call the ‘elite’ here in the (former) united states of America.
The string, Carlos … the string! Super-duper top-secret ultra-high-tensile string is tied to the balloons.
“We must not have a string gap!” to paraphrase President Merkin Muffley.
Maybe “reverse-recognize.”
Now, whenever I look at Kirby, I see Pee-wee Herman from the bike scene. “We meant to do that.”
Kirby should hold his press conferences in the basement of the Alamo
Seriously….trust us…we jammed the electronics…they didn’t get anything. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
It should be ridiculously easy to determine if the balloon eventually shot down after passing over the USA has spy equip on board, or was full of atmospheric testing/experiment/tracking stuff as claimed by the chicoms.
Vehicle seems pretty big to be innocuous, but I am very doubtful of everything the Bi-sh*t gov says as it is almost always totally false, twisted or 1/2 truths, and useful info always seems to be ‘secret’ or ‘subject to ongoing investigation’, never to be revealed. And I believe nothing from the chicoms.
We do know the remaining vehicles were hobby toys or other innocuous stuff.
I would dispute that last part. Those “hobby balloons” don’t match the descriptions provided by the pilots. What’s more, I’d trust the pilots not to fire a missile at a mylar balloon with a string hanging off of it.
The ONE over Lake Huron had Strings…
Because it was a kite
Sad when you have to stand up at a press conference and know that your whole purpose is to hold the curtain hiding the “Wizard.”
apologies for repeating the same opinion from a prior thread wrt to same issue. It is copy paste for a reason: there is nothing NEW that changes my opinion.
quote (edited for formatting errors and minor spelling ONLY in the prior post)
two angles of points (there are many more, but these two stand out to me):
2a. weather balloons are required by US law, international convention to broadcast transponder signals at all times, regardless if they are transiting commercial airspace corridors, altitudes. These so called objects NEVER broadcast adbs signals. So not only the violation of law, internationally recognized and standardized, but suggests strongly these were not private, or weather balloons. China transmits ads b signals in ALL commercial, private, and experimental air craft even in their own territorial air space. These “objects” were not transmitting.
2b. These objects traveled along the trajectory set by a strong and persistent and durable jet stream from west to east. To gain this precision to fly over specific military installations and other targets of interests would require precision timing and a specific location of launch site combined. All of these objects traveled almost exactly where you would want them to fly if those objects were the intention…This was not coincidental.
2c. the explanation that these balloons were “blown off” by unexpected weather events does not match up for several reasons. If that is a true, we would see quite a few weather balloons flying during the same time period also blown off course. We see only one. Out of 4/5 that “we know of”.
2d. weather balloons would be expected to send live data to ground and or intermediate satellites to reach back to china for processing. What would not be expected is that this live data be encrypted so intensively as to call into question just exactly why the need for that level of security. If you use a heavy armored bank vault door, there is something more than a few dollars in the vault you want to protect from seeing eyes, and thieving hands.
2e. and finally this: china NEVER notified the US or canada or any other country that these “objects” were going to intrude on, violate US airspace, and international rules regarding non-adbs transponder air vehicles.
noting: joe malarkey did not stay for any questions plainly because he was TOLD to. This is called blackholing an operation. It is both astroturfing and gas lighting…It is also a false limited hangout in intelligence community speak.
******break*******
other additional opinions:
noting: the “fbi inspecting” object hardware is also a false limited hangout. The white house is aware that intelligent people have noticed the mismatch with joe malarkey narrative (lie). The FBI does NOT have the in house capability to actually forensically scientifically conduct surveillance technology OF THIS TYPE. This will be submitted to DOD and also CIA. And there WILL BE AN EFFORT AGAIN to black hole the reality of the capabilities of these “objects”
spoiler: these are chinese CCP nation state military surveillance balloons. They were launched precisely to gain a near real time surveillance/collection of the US military Nuclear readiness and other data points that are important for CCP (and others) to understand about US military sensor capability and ALSO nuclear defcon response time.
God Bless America
God Bless America
2f. None of that matters if Bi-Sh*t & Gang are compromised, knew it was a spy balloon, and just let it fly. Which is, I am sorry to say, very, very likely.
Don’t forget – Our TOP General, Milley, said he would give advance warning to the chicoms of any military action by the USA during last admin. And he’s still the top general today.
That blockhead nincompoop was going to warn China ahead of time if Trump was going to try to hold onto power after the coup by attacking China.
The entire premise is so ridiculous that it’s frightening a person like this has real power in our chain of command.
He’s a complete and utter dum dum, with zero usable insight into Trump, or likely anything else.
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if we found out Milley was one of these pup handler types.
Milley gave the order to subordinates to NOT inform the White House of Chinese surveillance balloon activity during PDJT’s term.
Good. Now the US Military can get back to their Job # 1, protecting America’s southern border from the ongoing nation invasion by millions of nation invaders.
Oh wait !
Turdeau went full “Karen” and led FJB into this mess.
It’s a MILITARY balloon, so what the hell is the FBI doing analyzing it? Military hardware experts should be looking at it.
Kirby is what the leadership in the Obama military have become. I am glad my time wasn’t during the Woke lying anti American were in power. Most of the leadership today are comfortable with the Chinese model.
It’s a Chynese balloon, but I’m a bought and paid for Bai D3n operative, and he works for the Chyneses, so…
I have to wonder if China has their own lawyer in FBI HQ telling them: “This is not the spying things you are looking for”.
So migratory birds are in danger of being depopulated and becoming extinct by $400,000 dollar missiles. Where are the animal rights activists. The globalist puppet in the White House needs his diaper changed.
The military recovers and the Panty Raider will be testing it ?
It will end up next to Hunters laptop and the Weimar laptop along with the Epstein list and never see the light of day
Why have the FBI examine it? Does the FBI design our spying equipment?
Our state of the art should be hidden in some black ops program.
It is really scary to think that the FBI are the experts in spying.
But they have proven themselves really good at lying about everything.
Does anyone believe anything this White House puts out?
only people within the same regime as joe malarkey and sheep who actually trust without verification.
God Bless America
Nope.
“………..now at the FBI laboratory in Quantico,”
I’m curious, does this “FBI lab” have any connection to Naval Intelligence? It just seems to me that if there’s a need to involve the military in downing a “spy balloon” then this becomes a matter for the military to handle. National security at the military level. Bringing the FBI into the picture reeks of narrative control.
yes, the FBI does not possess the in house ability to dissect and answer questions related to forensic examinations of sophisticated surveillance vehicles”objects”..
this will go to subject matter specialists AND counter intel groups within the CIA, darpa, and Dod.
then the real spin will happen as predicted.
God Bless America
Five bucks says we give it back.
Grovel first.
The end result of their analysis would have been better if they had had the sense to just poke a hole in the thing and let it sink gently back to earth. What do they think they’ll get from busted-up waterlogged electronics? Unless that was the whole point all along. Just sayin’.
What an accomplishment. Congrts. Mission To find the balloon they shot down is completed or something. Now we find out how racist the balloon really is.
Install the clowns, expect the circus
No one asked if the balloon was filled with gas from Nord stream.
This guy Kirby is a complete doofus and looks like a deer in the headlights – scared.
Yes, his eyes reveal all!
Wonder when he will tell us about all the ground Chinese Military that are in Canada currently, at Trudeau invite, & seen doing bivouac along side roads in WA State & Alaska since before the pandemic?
If those units are located in Canada, why are they bivouacing in the U.S.?
Top… men…
How can Kirby be SO confident that there was “…no significant surveillance achieved”. They really do think we are as dumb as they think we are. It is truly outrageous the utter contempt they have toward us.
don’t believe one word
The US military is reverse engineering the tech on the Chinese balloon. Since that tech was likely stolen from the US by Chinese students in US universities in the first place, why do we need to reverse engineer it? We should already have it.
Why would you need to reverse engineer it since the technology is ours. What a joke.
Right … let’s see it. Some of it … any of it. Right. Sure we recovered the payload. Unh huh … uhm … yeaaaahhhh
If the US is now “reverse engineering” some Chinese electronics and hardware than they will undoubtedly end up with US equipment.
Who says the ones doing the investigating are going to recognize that unless they are of the same generation that designed the progenitor of that derivative tech?
Gawwd … isn’t that true.
However, as an audiophile electronics aficionado… I must say … the ChiComs are really good at copying electronics … then selling them very cheaply
U.S. Military Completes Mission to Recover Chinese Surveillance Balloon, Optics and
Electronics Now Being Tested by FBI, the Same FBI that Knew from Hunter’s Laptop that Joe Biden is a Chinese Employee, Yet Installed Him in Office Anyway
FIFY.
Sure they jammed it…That’s an after the fact face saver…They didn’t even know what it was at first, yet they tracked it all the way from mainland China, but it was never a threat, now it’s a Chinese spy balloon…The BS just keeps spilling from these imbeciles….Their motto is, Clown Shows Я Us.
A possible spy sat being tested by the FBI.
That’s kinda weird, unless…
Why would anyone believe this at this point?
We get a completely new story about the balloon every day.
I think this is all a cover up and it was a U.S. balloon performing secret, illegal domestic surveillance.
Kirby is a Narrative Whore. For two dollars, he’ll say ANYTHING.
And he’ll loan you the two dollars.
I just ordered my Chairman Mao outfit for when the Chinese takeover is complete.
Mealy Mouth Kirby got flustered with Rosens questions that boxed him in. Kirby says ‘no significant surveillance achieved by the Chinese’. Please define significant. Also, how does he know what or was not surveilled? If he knows with certainty, then why use the word significant? Not sure how much can be found on electronics soaked in seawater for 2 weeks. Kirby is a joke.
It’s just words to get them through the current news cycle. They have no actual meaning.
The other common sense question: If they could block the ‘surveillance’, then how did they not know the ‘hobby balloons’ were not transmitting that they were just that? They say they know so much, but then shoot down non-threats.
Yeah, I agree. Just words to push the ball down the road.
Everyday, there’s new reasoning on how they correctly handled this giant error in judgement.
Sent to the FBI.
That’s all we need to know…
The F.ix B.e I.n
kirby has shark eyes
Kirby could be taken down and severely humiliated if somebody would just step up to the plate and JUST DO IT.
At least he can make up a good spin, where the Karime spokesperson has no clue.
Nothing of any appreciable size (think small aircraft) leaves the surface of this planet without being seen and tracked by multiple countries. The whole premise that anything floating or flying in the earths atmosphere is a surprise is bs.
They have been able to track objects smaller than a golf ball in orbit for decades. In atmosphere, likely not that much different.
The trick is distinguishing between something with a small radar cross-section and say, a flock of birds. Really the idea of stealth tech.
FBI-I’m sure we’ll get the straight story from them
Oh how I feel so much better now:../s
Just wondering….. do our physical looks reveal who we REALLY are, or does who we really are reflect our looks.
IMO, Kirby looks like he was beaten into submission to cater to and spout the Regime’s talking points – with the promise of DS benefits if he does as he is told. Pathetic shell of a man.
The question has been raised re recognition.
Tradition has it that planes get a decoration for successful encounters – e.g. bombs painted on bombers. So what form of recognition for balloons after these encounters?
One answer was “A used condom”