West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin appears with his good friend Chuck Todd for an interview about ongoing political events to include the debt ceiling.
As Manchin and Todd finish each other’s sentences, the discussion hits on the upcoming debt ceiling battle. Manchin surprisingly pulls out the purple card and states the super-secret thing that no one in DC will admit. The last federal budget was signed into law September 2008, for fiscal year 2009. From that moment forward, there has been nothing except continuing resolutions and omnibus spending bills [SIDENOTE: this approach was by design by Obama/Pelosi].
This 12-year timeline includes the entire tenure of House Speaker Paul Ryan, former Budget Committee Chair, who now uses the absence of the budget as a tool to advance his outside impression that DC is fiscally reckless, insert pearl clutching here. I digress. Manchin is positioning himself as the ‘purple’ option for 2024. WATCH (or read):
[Transcript] – CHUCK TODD: And joining me now is Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Senator Manchin, welcome back to Meet the Press.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Chuck, it’s always good to be with you.
CHUCK TODD: Look, I want to get into the debt ceiling. I want to get into all this stuff. But I — we got some developments overnight with those classified documents, an FBI search — the White House said it was coordinated with the FBI. But we’ve now had an FBI search of former President Trump. Now we have an FBI search into President Biden’s residence. What’s your assessment of how the president has handled the situation?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, I mean, it’s just hard to believe that in the United States of America, we have a former president and a current president that are basically in the same situation. How does this happen? You know, only thing I can tell you, Chuck, is when I go into the SCIF with the secure documents, they always ask, “Are you clean?” when you walk out. They want to make sure you’re not carrying anything out. You know, and it might be a mistake. You might just put it in your other papers, but you double-check right there. To be held accountable and responsible is what we all are. And to put those in unsecured spaces is irresponsible.
CHUCK TODD: Do you see similarities, or do you see more differences in how President Trump versus how President Biden —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: I’m not going to make —
CHUCK TODD: — has handled this?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: — that decision, but I think that Merrick Garland did the right thing by putting the special counsel.
CHUCK TODD: You do?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: And I think that we should wait until the special counsel, rather than making this a political circus. Let them find out the facts. What — was one more damaging? Are they both about the same, did not cause any problem, or is one more reckless and irresponsible than the other? I can’t answer that question, but I think the special counsel will do a better job than the politicians and the political circus that is going to follow.
CHUCK TODD: President Biden said he had no regrets in how he handled this. Do you have any advice for him on how he should handle this going forward?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Oh, I think he should have a lot of regrets. Yeah. I would —
CHUCK TODD: What are those —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: I would think that. I said, “Whoever’s responsible.” I mean, if I hold people accountable, and I use — whether my chief of staff or, you know, my staff, who, that were doing this, that I’m looking at, then I’m going to hold someone accountable. But basically, the buck stops with me.
CHUCK TODD: So you think he should be out there, “Look, I mess — I messed up –”
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: That’s all. Just say —
CHUCK TODD: “Maybe I didn’t do it.” Just say it —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: — “I made a mistake.”
CHUCK TODD: Just fall on your sword here?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: We’re all human.
CHUCK TODD: Yeah.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: We make mistakes. I can tell you I don’t think anyone intended, he sure didn’t intend for it to fall in wrong hands and use it against our country. I know they didn’t intend that to happen. Could it have happened? I don’t know. And yeah, you just might as well say, “Listen, it’s irresponsible. It was something we should’ve had a better check and balance on.”
CHUCK TODD: Now, former President Trump defied a subpoena. So in that sense, the, the way each has handled it is different.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yes.
CHUCK TODD: Do you acknowledge that?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Absolutely. Much different than the other. One’s saying, “Okay, I hope I didn’t make any mistakes.
CHUCK TODD: Right.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: — I hope no one’s compromised. I hope we didn’t hurt our country.” And the other one says, “Ugh, no. I know it didn’t. Believe me.” Well, you know what? What they said, verify? You have to verify.
CHUCK TODD: Trust but verify?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Trust but verify. Let’s find out. And that’s what the special counsel’s —
CHUCK TODD: And that’s what you want here? Both special counsels to sort of resolve this?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: First of all, every one of us, in our life, have to be held accountable and responsible for our actions because people want accountability. And they want basically when you’re held accountable, are you responsible or not? If you are, would you — can you fix that? Did you make a mistake? Fine. You’re, you know —
CHUCK TODD: And that’s what you think – the president needs to get out there and just get in front of this?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Cicero, Cicero said, “To err is human.” You’re a human being. You’re going to make mistakes. Did you intend to make it? Did you intend to harm somebody? Did you intend to basically do an irresponsible thing? I don’t think — hopefully, neither one of them did.
CHUCK TODD: Right.
SEN. JOE MANCHIIN: But it sure turned out to be irresponsible.
CHUCK TODD: Let’s talk about the debt ceiling. You’re — as always, you’re trying to find a compromise, middle ground.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah.
CHUCK TODD: I know your instinct here. But why should Republicans get the benefit of the doubt on the debt ceiling here, considering that it’s a — that they’re sort of manufacturing a crisis that’s a bit unnecessary right now?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, first of all, if one side thinks that the other one’s more responsible for the debt at $31.4 trillion, that’s, that is totally not accurate and it’s deceptive. We’re all responsible. We’ve got a $31.4 trillion debt. It’s a runaway debt, and no one’s holding themselves accountable. And basically, I think you said it, use the budget process. I’ve been here 12 years. We haven’t had a budget yet.
CHUCK TODD: Yeah. I — that’s what I don’t get here.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: We haven’t had a budget yet.
CHUCK TODD: And that’s what I question —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah, you should.
CHUCK TODD: — you want to do this special committee here.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: I’m —
CHUCK TODD: And I’m sitting here going, “Why add more “bureaucracy?” We have a budget committee. We have two budget committees. We have a Joint Committee on Taxation. We have all these different committees that have already been created to deal with this process. Why can’t we use the congressional bureaucracy that exists?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: We have 12 appropriations committees —
CHUCK TODD: They’re —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: They’re supposed to do their job. Why don’t you basically put a time certain on —
CHUCK TODD: Right.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: — what you can do and what you can’t and when you do it? I can’t speak for that. I was a former governor of the state of West Virginia.
CHUCK TODD: Right.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: I was responsible for a balanced budget amendment and basically staying within the realms of my Constitution. So, you know, I met every week. Every week like clockwork they walked in my office on a Tuesday or Wednesday and sit down and go over it. You’re either going to be — have to make some cuts now, make some adjustments now, so we end the year with a balanced budget or a surplus. There’s nothing that holds us accountable. Nothing at all. We can say, “Oh, we’re going to do it.” As I’ve said before, 12 years, haven’t had a budget. That’s ridiculous.
CHUCK TODD: So, let me — you want to do this sort of, that you and Senator Romney, to have committee that deals with the trust fund issues. But right now, neither party wants to touch – I mean, in that sense, Donald Trump came out, and certainly Democrats, nobody wants to touch Social Security or Medicare.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, first of all —
CHUCK TODD: So how do you separate those two out and deal with our fiscal problems?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Why would you scare the bejesus out of people that are basically going to say — in West Virginia, I’ve got 60% of my population that that’s all they have is Medicare and Social Security. You think I’m going to go down that path and put them in jeopardy? No. But there are so much other things, the basically wasteful spending, that can be corralled in without scaring the bejesus, depending on what political side you’re on.
CHUCK TODD: Let me ask you about wasteful spending, because one of the three most hypocritical words I hear are “waste, fraud and abuse.” Right. Everybody says, “Oh, waste, fraud, and abuse.”
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: And it’s all there. It’s all there.
CHUCK TODD: Okay, but waste, fraud, and abuse aren’t going to balance the budget, ok? At the end of the day, there are going to have to be choices that have to be made. What is something that ought to be on, on, in the decision of, “You know, maybe we’re spending too much”?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, we know we’re spending too much because we’re not balancing our budget and —
CHUCK TODD: But on what?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: — we have more debt. The bottom line is, it’s in the eyes of the beholder. That’s the problem that we have. Five-hundred-and-thirty-five people said, “Well, yeah. What you’re doing is wasteful, Chuck. I think you ought to cut that.” And you’re going to say, “Okay, Joe. How about yours?”
CHUCK TODD: But your, your spending that you think is mandatory, another person thinks is wasteful or abuse.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah. Just think, for every dollar, just get it down, break it down to the dollar. Is there any savings within that dollar you think that is wasteful or abuse that we could at least have a target to set? Is it a penny? Is it five pennies? Is it a nickel? Where is it?
CHUCK TODD: But here’s what gets lost here, is nobody will put anything on the table. Everybody says, “We’ve got to cut spending.” Well, what? And nobody wants to articulate —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, the process —
CHUCK TODD:– the what.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Chuck, you hit it dead on the head. The process isn’t working. How come we’re not held accountable to have – to have the appropriation bills done at a certain time before the end of the fiscal year?
CHUCK TODD: You tell me.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, that’s what I —
CHUCK TODD: I mean –
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: You know –
CHUCK TODD: – what does Chuck Schumer say? What does Mitch McConnell
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: You know what happens? It rolls over into an omnibus bill at the end and everything’s thrown into it. “Okay. Here we got it, guys. That’s it.” It makes no sense.
CHUCK TODD: So what should – it sounds like you actually think the debt ceiling is a moment we should use to focus on —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, if you’re going to use the debt ceiling for anything except for theatrics, okay, which is what probably might happen for a while, we’re going to pass the debt ceiling. You are exactly correct.
CHUCK TODD: Right.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: It has to pass. You know, we have the currency of it, you know – the good faith of the United States dollar and the currency of the world. You just can’t let it default and basically hold us in jeopardy from where we stand in the world, world order. With that being said, is how do you get to it? Do you use this moment? Do you come to a reason – responsibility? What are we paying for interest now? For ten years, it was zero. It was funny money. Were not – you know, it doesn’t put any burden. We’re just raising debt, but we’re not basically harming how we have to meet that debt through our interest payments. Now we’re talking real money on an interest basis. We’re almost, up to what our defense budget is, paying in interest.
CHUCK TODD: I guess I come back to, and I don’t think you have the answer either, which is what is the moment to force this conversation?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: This is a moment if, if Kevin McCarthy coming in – coming in new says, “Okay, this is – it’s serious,” and he takes it from the standpoint. And he knows —
CHUCK TODD: What does he need to do that you would take him seriously in this?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, you know, Chuck —
CHUCK TODD: Do you know what I mean by that? Like, how do you know when he’s being serious, and how do you when he’s paying politics?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Well, the bottom line is he has a hell of a – heck of a political hand that’s not, not very good right now. He’s not holding a lot, if you will. And he has ten or 12 that’s pretty much out there. He has to make a decision how he wants to govern and how he ought to these next two years in this 118th Congress. You know – I just – it was amazing. I just saw that the Ohio legislature, I don’t know if you paid any attention to that —
CHUCK TODD: I did. Yeah.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: The Ohio legislature, which is Republican-controlled –
CHUCK TODD: Yeah.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: – basically chose their new speaker, a Republican, with as many, if not more votes, from the Democrats because they wanted someone they can work with. That’s a coalition. Why can’t we put coalitions together here?
CHUCK TODD: Well, that’s —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: The moderate, centrist Democrats coming over and working, whoever’s the majority, and saying, “You don’t have to bow and cow-tail to the extremes.”
CHUCK TODD: Yeah. You don’t have to worry about primaries. A lot of your colleagues have to worry about primaries. Isn’t that why this —
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Let me tell you —
CHUCK TODD – doesn’t happen?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: – one more thing. I’ve got to be honest with you, Chuck. If it’s all about the election, the next election, you know, that’s the worst thing that could happen to us.
CHUCK TODD: You just came from Davos.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah.
CHUCK TODD: There’s a moment, I don’t know if you realized, that went viral between you and Senator Sinema. I want to show the moment here. I want to ask you about it. You guys are high-fiving. I think we’ll show it again here. It was right after she was talking about the filibuster.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah.
CHUCK TODD: Is that what you were high-fiving about?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Yeah, that was – I think, you know, after that. I saw her hand go up and I said, “Sure” because here, the two of us are committed to protecting the filibuster, which I think protects checks and balances on the executive branch. So if you have a Democrat, Democrat, Democrat – president, House and Senate – and you have a strong president, basically leader of the party, then you don’t have a check and balance because I can guarantee you the House and Senate will roll wherever the president wants. I – and I’ve said this before. I appreciate the Republican senators and the leadership of the minority leader at that time, McConnell, majority leader at that time – with Donald Trump every day beating on him, “Get rid of the filibuster.” You’ve got 53, 54 Republicans, and he would not. And I appreciate that. And I told Harry Reid we should not have done it when we did it in 2013. But to come back now, the checks and balances aren’t there. It makes and forces them to work together. Think what we’ve accomplished in the 117th, the most divided Congress we’ve ever had, and we did more substantial bills, I think that’s going to be transformational.
CHUCK TODD: You think those first two years of Biden and this Democratic Congress is going to be historic?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: I think it’s going to be transformational and historical, yes, because here you had a bipartisan infrastructure bill we haven’t done for years.
CHUCK TODD: Yeah.
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: You had then on top of that the CHIPS Act, which will bring manufacturing back so we don’t have supply chains that we’re depending on that aren’t loyal and trustworthy. And then we have the Inflation Reduction Act, which is going to give us – it’s been misaligned because this administration basically said it’s environmental, environmental, environmental. That bill is designed to be energy security, Chuck. And energy security is exactly what we need.
CHUCK TODD: And you’re frustrated that the White House won’t say the phrase “energy security”?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: They will not use the word, and they haven’t. I’m begging you all, please. Energy security. We have to have fossil. We do it better and cleaner than anywhere in the world. And we can be energy secured for ten years, and also be able to invest in technology of the future.
CHUCK TODD: Is this an agenda you can run for reelection on in West Virginia?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Oh, most certainly because we’re seeing right now, I’ve got a battery plant coming in. I’ve got basically hydrogen coming in that direction. We’ve got expansion. And we’re raising our coal with carbon capture sequestration. We’ve got basically methane capturing using gas. We have people that are fighting continuously. And you have to have the pipeline to move this product. And it’s going to be needed. If not, you’re going to end up like Europe. And that’s where I didn’t want to rub it into them, but Europe took an approach that they’re going to say, “We’re going to have cap-and-trade.” And we’re going to be basically charging you a carbon tax.” I’ve said, “I’m not going to support that and vote for it because I think it doesn’t work.” So I took the approach, and basically we wrote this bill with incentives. And it was working. And that’s why they were all upset. That’s why the chancellor and that’s why presidents of other countries were very upset on this bill and concerned about it.
CHUCK TODD: If you run for office in 2024, are you going to run as a Democrat?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Chuck, I haven’t made a decision what I’m going to do in 2024. I’ve got two years ahead of me now to do the best I can for the state and for my country.
CHUCK TODD: What are – what’s on the table? Is reelection on the table?
SEN. JOE MANCHIN: Everything’s on the table.
The amount of power that this creep Manchin has for no other reason than he’s not quite a Demo-Commie, is breathtaking.
The only real talent he has is figuring out how to get elected and re-elected.
I would love to know how much money he’s got socked away in those Swiss bank accounts. Probably on a level with FJB.
He comes across as not very purple to me.
Purple people don’t attend Davos and suck up to the WEF.
Your old school; NOBODY hides $ in Switzerland any more, its not secure.
What a couple of morons. Who couldn’t see this trash of comparing the Demented Fraud and the made up crimes being directed at PDT? First, the Fraud never had the authority to declassify anything where PDT, who as President, had the authority to declassify anything he wanted. All of this “finding” classified material in locations controlled by the Demented Fraud is smoke to justify made up crap against PDT. These people are really weak
They’ll keep comparing apples to peanut butter because that’s the narrative and the narrative must be pushed over and over and over again. Then, they wind up with enough sheeple baaaaahing along and now they have established talking points that they consider facts. This is why the silence from Republicans is so devasting. The George W./Cheney “highroad” of never countering the narrative is an own goal. Every. Single. Time.
Low info Dem voters only see the click bait.
Low info voters come in all varieties
The sheep have looked up, and they ain’t buying it.
Have you seen the ratings lately?
CNN just closed their Atlanta operation, the openly leftist networks are BLEEDING viewers.
Don’t get caught up in refuting the false narrative, THATS the trap they keep setting for us.
Its bullshite, and everyone KNOWS it, just call it what it is, and move on.
Climate Change, CRT, its ALL BULLSHITE, and we waste a lot of energy, pointing out the obvious.
IMHO, just call it what it IS, and move on.
oh i’m sure cuck todd and manchin just forgot …
that a president is very different from a SENATOR and VP …
with a crackhead son living in a house with the docs
while making hot deals with countries the docs dealt with
BULLSHIT!!! If FJB had removed one document when he was a Senator maybe, but multiple documents over two different times (Senator and Vice-President) would suggest he had something yo hide.
What is in the documents?
when asked if a national security assessment was being done to determine the possible damage caused by the release of the info in Slo Joe’s docs KJP referred reporters to the WH counsel’s office…….funny how we get to pay for his defense now when the problem is from by my count WELL before his installment
What were in PDJT’s authorized docs?
whatever was necessary for the performance of his job that were maintained as custodial documents in a secure location
Have to ask Hunter.
Sorry, QV, ….THATS CLASSIFIED.
He has an obsession with purloining classified documents…
much as his obsession with small children, including his own…
The cash he obtained by selling America’s secrets to our enemies are why classified documents exist.
Anyone making a comparison…
which means, media/Democrats…
aren’t noting that we have no idea how many documents were destroyed, bleach-bitted–because the Head Librarian so desperate to send the FBI to grab Melania’s classified undergarments
…golly, just doesn’t have RECORDS of anything that wasn’t reported.
TRUMP?
REPORTED EVERYTHING.
THIS is why they have to lie, cheat, steal, make up Russiagate pee pee docs–because Trump has always operated lawfully.
The Orange-Man-Bad-Librarian threw tantrums,
translating into Epstein’s Own Prosecutor-turned-Defense-Lawyer who signed the idiot warrant to raid Mar-a-Lago,
only because President Trump did the right thing.
Our so called “lovers” of the people, hope you never realize how much they HATE you!
Sidenote… DOD loves you the most!
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/discussion-with-sam-dube-and-lara
Went to Davos / W.E.F. meet. Said Free speech platforms are a ‘ problem ‘.
All you need to know.
Lots of potential billionaire donors there.
Along with Paul Ryan, AZ’s Sen. Sinema & a cast of myriad One World Order characters.
Ketchup Kerry was smoking pissed that oceans haven’t boiled over.
This is the same Manchin who said in Davos that the problem in the US is that we have a First Amendment.
Then when called out on it said that he didn’t “explain” properly.
Then doubled down and said the same thing.
That Manchin?
Their real problem is the 2nd Amendment.
Four years ago had personal business with a Kewi (New Zealand) citizen. On a personal one-on-one cordial get together (he was purchasing a auto transmission from me) he had to include NZ comment about his dislike of our 2nd Amendment, while he was drinking a cold beer that I gave him.
I hope he chocked on it, in retrospect. He-Haw.
Poor thing.
Four years later I’ll bet that conversation has come back to haunt him.
“Four years later I’ll bet that conversation has come back to haunt him.”
I’ll bet not. They’re that stupid. They’re that brainwashed.
“Their real problem is the 2nd Amendment.”
And that is EXACTLY how the “enemies within” think of the 2A – it’s a problem because it makes them take pause in going full-on GDC with the flip of a switch.
Here’s a quote from the a grown up pervert that showered regularly with his adolescent daughter –
* Later, when Beto dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden, Biden said to Beto, “You’re going take care of the gun problem with me. You’re going to be the one who leads this effort.” *
From here –
“The Second Amendment In A World Of President Biden, VP Harris, And Justice Barrett”
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2020/11/11/the-second-amendment-in-a-world-of-president-biden-vp-harris-and-justice-barrett/
LET’S GO BRANDON!
They say 11-year-old Ashley.
But she also spoke of being wiped long after she should have been–exposing a younger molestation. Hunter had to be molested too; abused abuse others. The whole family is rife with drug/alcohol/sex addiction.
Has anyone tracked the perversion back to Joe’s dad? Grandpa?
Democrats are always saying Republicans want to cut social programs and keep military spending. Seems to me all of that military money goes to the Ukraine now.
So, Republicans are demanding for a reduction in spending before they will authorize a debt ceiling increase.
They should take every deep state department (DOJ, DNI, CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, ETC.) and cut them to zero or some number close.
They have already proclaimed they don’t want to provide information for House oversight.
Republicans can say ok.
Then no funding for you!
over $800B in the DoD budget for the military and $1T when you count in related civilian expenditures last year…….$120B is a significant amount of that but NOT the entire thing
AMEN! OH YES. That’s exactly what must happen.
GOP could pile on a whole bunch of defundings to support the debt ceiling argument.
SORRY. You’re all refusing to have oversight?
You were unconstitutional to begin with?
We need a balanced budget?
HEY! WE’VE GOT AN ANSWER! DEFUND THE HELL OUT OF ALL OF YOU
There IS “a plan”; I regret Ican’t remember the name if the guy advancing it,…
The 20 are said to have negotiated that it will be a condition of the House voting on the debt cieling.
It gets us to “balanced budget” in 10 years.
Use that Holman rule and obliterate those Departments .
Tell them their budget is the 250 billion they’ve “misplaced”.
The more that Manchin goes on these fake media outlets and kowtows to them, the more likely his reelection chances in 2024 go down the tube.
I’ll believe that when I see it. When’s the last time Dem like Manchin was tossed? Idiot voters and cheating will likely keep him in office forever.
It’s a controlled economic implosion of the American dollar by the national security apparatus, sticking China with worthless currency. Allow UniParty politicians in both parties to run our bills up, knowing full well we aren’t paying our debts back as a country after a massive global depression eventually resets the developed world.
This seems to have been triangulated by the Federal Reserve and military-industrial complex once Obama got in the White House after the harrowing financial times of 2006-2008.
Everything is by design in the Swamp and plotted out years in advance by the big boys.
I agree, this is their job, their CAREER, and just luke any of us, in our jobs/careers, we make PLANS.
“If you wish to amuse GOD,….make PLANS.”
There plans haven’t always WORKED out, AS planned.
They are not smart. They are conniving, but they are short sighted, and they ain’t winning.
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Has someone ever asked Manchin about those oil wells and natural gas pipelines Biden and Schumer promised him? LOL
Some might think they are in love
“To error is human” maybe the only proof they aren’t all reptiles
Saying stuff that has been obvious for years, getting paid to say it, and (unfortunately) in many quarters getting credit for being wise and insightful and articulate and bold and blahblahblah.
Who needs a budget when we have the NDAA.
Woops, wrong thread!
The Gipper Lives: To be more accurate, I called it Unplanned Parenthood.
To be even more accurate, the Bible calls it Baal Worship. And murder.
Come to Jesus, children.
I stand with whichever group donates the most $$$ to my campaign.
“Beechnut” Joe Manchin has a face every way you turn him.
He’s a true Janus
No consequences this time?
Huh. I’m shocked.
A weasel and a coward.
Two turds floating in the same septic tank. No way could I watch the video. Couldn’t even make it halfway through the transcript. Disgusting.
Manchin should change parties. He would make a great RINO.
less reliable than Collins or Murkowski
You got that right. Throw in Mittens Romney in the mix too. The best I can say of that trio is at least they vote right on the issues half of the time. That’s more than can be said for a political chameleon/con artist like Joe Manchin.
Will never happen. If he cared, at all, about any of the “conservative” positions he supposedly holds, he’d have switched long ago. Because it’s not as if he’d have a hard time getting re-elected in WV as an R.
The truth is he’s much farther left than he lets on. He larps at having some conservative views just to do his part to help the Ds stay in the majority by holding down that WV seat.
Listen to nothing he says, turn off the tube… Anything he says is self serving or another attempt to obfuscate so the average idiot will vote for him again in 2024… True leadership in the RNC would make it this clear with the caveat of the intention to turn him and his election prospects to dust at that time
“Davos” Joe Man-Chin….
ready to “wef” it up in America.
Don’t fall for this again WVA. Fire Manchin. He’s a liar proven over and over again. Do the entire country a favor and fire him. And nail that inflation reduction act to his forehead.
Let us see Manchin address the 452 Billion in wasteful spending identified by Sen Rand Paul, if Manchin wants to appear believable and serious about budgets. Half a Trillion dollars is almost a whole lot of money (sarc).
Festivus, 2022: https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-releases-2022-festivus-report-government-waste
There isn’t an agency in the entire US Govt that couldn’t absorb a 20% cut in funding. Been there, seen that.
Manchin is a slithering snake.
The Permanent State floated Newsom and possibly the public was less than thrilled with him as the next President. So now they are floating this fake Populist who talks like a Repub and votes like a Marxist. Personally I find his meek personality a turn off as a leader. I’m thinking (if the election were fair) Trump would trounce him.
Trump would have 2000 mile car rallies and [fill in the gap Democrat everyone hates] has 6 people…
2024 Democrat #WINNING
Joe Manchin showed up at the World Economic Forum to say, among other things, that he (and implied Congress) backed Ukraine without reservation.
Might have something to do with campaign contributions to him from defense, from finance/banking, and energy.
All these scum grifters make me so angry. West Virginia, you can do a lot better.
Thank you for adding the transcript when possible, Sundance.
I share a space with too many people to listen to videos or wear ear buds. (So I don’t do videos).
Couldn’t read the whole thing. Football is more important.
I was cheering for the Bengals the entire game because:
1) they were given no respect from anyone in the NFL
2) although I am very glad Hamlin appears to be okay now,
I abhor the NFL using him as a commercial for their
“NFL” family, the kneeling in prayer instead of kneeling
to protest the USA, and the entire woke culture in its entirety.
Am very glad I don’t have to listen to this next week.
I am not sure I stated the “kneeling in prayer” correctly.
I love that they knelt in prayer!
However, did not like that they knelt in protest of the USA
previously. It seemed sort of hypocritical to me.
Debt ceiling is smoke…for the murder of American citizens.
Everyone needs to answer for themselves why we have a government that creates bioweapons with the CCP, releases them on the world either through negligence or malice, falsely denies their creation of the disease, denies they understand it despite having concocted it, denies treatment to the sick and dying, viciously attacks healers trying to address the disease, and promote an untested and lethally dangerous poison on the populace as a solution to the problem they inflicted. At this point, in defiance of credulity, they continue to propagandize the deadly cure from which they personally and corporately harvest billions of taxpayer dollars.
And a lowlife loser that pushed for the vaccine mandates is now Biden’s new chief of staff
Excellent. I wish I had written it that well.
Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
Not only did PRESIDENT Trump have unrestricted authority to declassify anything he wanted, he had already had everything in his possession audited and inventoried by the Archives toad and the FBI and had been approved to keep it all. Joe Biden had NO authority to STEAL or take or possess or store ANY Classified documents.
It is now clear that since the STOLEN TOP SECRET documents were discovered to be in Biden’s possession months before the raid on Mar a Lago and only now have come to light, the raid was an attempt to get ahead of the impending scandal and try to equate Trump’s LEGAL and AUTHORIZED possession of Classified documents, mostly just mementos, with Biden’s UNAUTHORIZED and ILLEGAL possession of STOLEN TOP SECRET INTELLIGENCE Classified documents, but even Leftist lawyers are debunking that argument.
Biden broke the law and technically committed espionage, and he may even have been selling secrets or letting Hunter sell them for leverage with the Chi-Coms. Joe Biden committed multiple felonies, but Trump did NOTHING WRONG.
no “technical” about it…Slo Joe DEFINITELY committed espionage according to the definition in the ACT itself
Manchin. Just another fraud, playing both sides of the coin.
Clinton had unilateral authority to classified documents even while selling them to CCP. President Trump has unilateral authority concerning classified documents while President. Biden was a VP not President while stealing those documents. They/media/derp state buerocrats don’t even try to hide their egregious lies. I think the only way to turn this horrific totalitarian tide is to stomp the hell out of corporate media.
Manchin is fake. I won’t listen to or read his lies.
The “Debt Ceiling” is a playing card, and this is Poker.
80% of the US Govt would proceed as normal with zero action. That 80% is already funded and will proceed.
What is at stake are the unfunded things that Dems/Reps want funded. Paid for by Increased Debt. Paid by your children.
There isn’t a program, department, or agency that can’t absorb a 20% reduction, if they really want all these things.
Or, negotiate to reallocate funding from the IRS 87000 agents over to whatever they deem more “necessary”.
Or, use the power of Rescission to claw back monies from the Omnibus and cut the fat out of the budget.
This whole thing is a game of chicken. “Give me everything I want” vs. “Cut back what you want or make across the board cuts”.
Sometimes, you have to take the teenager’s credit card and burn it.
well, non-essential government services get defunded in such times….the question becomes however if they are “non-essential” why are they funded at all?
They lose me when they are not in power that we need to be bi-partisan and the other side does it too. Move along, nothing to see here. Business as usual.
Anyone who thinks the infrastruture bill is a great accomplishment should not be within a thousand miles of Washington. Manchin is one of the biggest bs’ers in the country as he portrays himself as reasonable.
Joe Manchin was just in Davos, sucking up to the World Economic Forum. That, more than anything, reveals his TRUE agenda. Not buying his “blue dog” lies anymore.
First, I only really disliked Joe Manchin. Now, I really hate the man.
He was extremely nervous coming out of the gate, but no worries, as F U Todd pivoted quickly to “fiscal stuff,” which Manchin fashions as his bailiwick. Manchin has been there 12 years and is just now worried about no budget??
Then, when you realize he’s been totally 💯 % compromised, he does the spinnarooney on what great things the Biden administration has passed, yadda, yadda, yadda.
What a piece of work…McCain must be looking up in awe.
it is obvious they are bad at math but by my count that is 13 1/2 years now working on 14 years not 12….especially when you consider FY 2008 started 1 Oct 2007
Blah blah blah
“Energy-we have to have fossil…”
Meanwhile
Quietly Released Energy Dept. Report Admits Mistake in Canceling Keystone XL Pipeline, Shows Economic Benefits
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/22/quietly-released-energy-dept-report-admits-mistake-in-canceling-keystone-xl-pipeline-shows-economic-benefits/
the problem is they low balled the numbers for the economic damage they wrought
I really do not care about the planted documents that will prevent Biden from stealing another election. I would like to see an actual budget. This whole document thing reeks of “squirrel”. The document thing is a set up and the nation is being played, again.
Senator Manchin was a guest on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartoromo and all I could think was what Sundance said this last year, that Manchin is positioning himself to run as the 2024 Democrat Presidential candidate.
Interesting that neither hosts asked Manchin about his comments at Davos this past week where he thought the first amendment, our freedom of speech was not a good thing (paraphrasing what he said).
The interviewers don’t see that as controversial
My senator lummis, (U) WY, will work with sen gillibrand, (Communist) NY, and introduce the Responsible Financial Innovation Act…….whatever that is, but Im sure its neither responsible or innovative. She is also calling for the increase in the debt ceiling due to that pesky covid spending.
Perhaps these dimwitted congress types should take a 100% pay cut, and let the govt. shut down for awhile. Win Win!
“Apple don’t fall far from the tree”…….
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/07/joe-manchin-epipen-price-heather-bresch/
Got through about a dozen sentences of this “dialogue” and that was all I could take. Burn it all down and start over. Let every state become it’s own independent country (which was basically the original intent of the USA under our Constitution). Watch how all of us conservatives move to FL, TX, SD, ID, WY, and a few other states. I would not miss my own state of MI for one second. Only in my wildest dreams, I know.
I can’t believe anyone thought (sic) Mansion would make a good republican, unless of course they meant a good McConnellista…
Manchin is a total fraud. He’s a dyed in the wool leftist Democrat & his voting record proves it.
“How Low Will You Go Joe” has new billionaire, bosom buddy named Bill Gates 🤮. Manchin brought that globalist WEF scum to tour and speak in WV about energy investment. Gates had “promised” Manchin a new technology battery plant at the old Weirton Steel Plant site in exchange for Manchin changing his mind and vote on the Inflation Creation Grifter Act. Ironically, today he wants to talk about cutting spending to Cuck Fraud. 🤣
All the Federal (or is that Feral?) critters like Senator 🙄 Sellyouout Moore Capito, and to my suprise 1st District Congresswoman Carol Miller, along with WEF Joe Manchin 🤑 were all fawning over Gates at a . Only 2nd District Congressman Alex Mooney stayed away. https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/bill-gates-joins-sen-manchin-in-west-virginia-for-talk-on-transition-to-cleaner-energy/article_086a0236-9062-11ed-955a-cfcf5f064f29.html
It is common knowledge that Mooney is going to challenge Manchin in 2024 and will most likely finish that POS off if that idiot RINO Governor Jim “Baby Dog” Justice doesn’t mess it up.
I wonder,…if the 20 that have McCarthy’s cajones in a jar “you can get them back, when you leave”,…are going to make this debt cieling raise distinctly different than past pro-forma choreographed dance.
And I wonder,..if the tactic of using classified docs as an issue, will backfire.
Open secret how abuses and misused the “Classification process” is, AND how widely its abused.
Almost all of those quotes atrributed to “officials not autthorised to speak on the record” were LEAKS if Classified information.
And yet, different factions within the Government freely leak them, to establish their narrative, and push their agenda.
When EVERYTHING is “Classified”, NOTHING is secret. What they have done with MAL raid, and Biden docs ‘manufactured scandal’ is expose this.
When they refuse the committee investigating Weaponisation of the Government, docs or testimony because its “Classified”, they don’t have any CREDIBILITY.
“SO, UNLOGGED visitors to the Presidents house, can peruse through “Classified documents” to their hearts content, but the People representatives (as thats what the House IS!) CAN’T see government generated documents, or have testinony from GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, because “its CLASSIFIED????!!”