Another great albeit lengthy interview for consideration. U.K. political pundit Neil Oliver interviews Dr. John Campbell amid a “knowing what you know now”.. type outlook and discussion over the current status of the COVID-19 vaccination protocol.
In the arc of his pandemic discussion and evaluation, Dr Campbell is now in facing considerable discomfort as he outlines the “lost trust” in the healthcare industry, as an outcome of manipulated science. This has been a painful journey for John Campbell as he outlines in the interview. Dr. Campbell himself took two doses of the mRNA vaccine, based on the professional advice of the industry. However, as he states in the interview, he can no longer assert his belief in the science that led him to his original decision, and given what he knows now, he would not have taken the vaccine. WATCH (prompted):
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A conversation following the journey of a pragmatic believer down the path to uncomfortable cynicism.
I’m sure the good Dr has lots of company.
John Campbell’s Awakening:
https://rumble.com/v23qytk-dr.john-campbells-awakening-the-end-of-evidence-based-medicine.html
That was fun
You aint gonna get a pardon from me John.
I can only imagine how many thousands of clueless people in the world were hypnotized into a Mass Psychotic state by John Campbell. More recently, Ive been watching him slowly….balance his conscience, political correctness, and Google/YT’s three strike policy. Quite the balancing act indeed.
FEEL MY WRATH/NO AMNESTY.
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I would not judge Dr Campbell so quickly. I had several doctors from top medical establishments including Johns Hopkins who were my lifelong friends, that wanted me to get inoculated . I chose not to. They were being fed faulty information also, I guess. They had my best interest at heart. At least Campbell figured it out for himself.
goes to show being educated or credentialed doesnt mean you are wise or smart.
Yep. Sheeple come in all IQs and education levels.
prefect answer
Thank you.
I knew in the spring of 2020 that I didn’t believe anything they said about their reasons for doing what they were doing.
I am not a doctor. I do not play one on TV or in my neighborhood.
I’m a nobody. A thorough and complete nobody.
And yet I knew–almost three years ago–that they were lying, manipulating, distorting, and twisting things.
Just proves our universities, colleges, medical schools, etc. etc. etc. are certainly not sending their best.
I would never dare claim I was smarter than him.
I just don’t understand why he is (apparently) still trying to figure out that is so and I knew it a long time ago.
I guess it’s not because I’m all that smart. It must be because he is over-educated, licensed, certified, registered, practiced, and ignorant with regard to every day common sense and doesn’t have a spidey sense about ANYTHING, and is not accustomed to thinking, sensing, looking, and responding based on real time stuff..
I almost can’t take it any ore. Oh, well. It’s a good day to sort through another closet and throw some more stuff out.
I’m angry with the ongoing and self-centered “confessions” that keep coming. Are we supposed to feel sorry for them or what??
This Bob Moran is so right “Maquis”.
What these “experts” did to us is reckless and irresponsible and even beyond that since many of them were educated, trained and experienced in the field of medicine.
Because of so many of them our lives were made almost unbearable for almost three years.
There will be no “amnesty” and we will not forgive and forget until we get to the bottom of this vax debacle.
And when we do heads will roll.
One of the goals is for people to lose trust in the structural institutions that we have relied on.
So now it is the medical institution.
The constant drumbeat of the media and their fear campaign, the suppression of medical studies of successful prophylactics like HCQ and Ivermectin, the vilifications of anyone, or any alternate treatment, all by a globally coordinated propaganda campaign that included the medical boards, government, and media, should have alerted even the dimmest that something wasn’t right. It was a planned assault on our freedom masquerading as a public health crisis for a disease with a 99.9% survival rate.
I’m not buying the Doctor’s story.
I thought he looked a little guilty and somewhat ashamed. He should be – he is one of the ones who should have known.
Most people have stopped thinking. They’ve gone from independent individuals towards group thinking herd animals. This is an outcome of information control by media, government, academia, and professional associations. It’s more like brainwashing.
I’m an engineer. We are taught to think by rigid rules of mathematics, physics, chemistry, metallurgy, etc.
I’ve never understood the “emotions” or “group think” approach to reality. That doesn’t exist for me.
What you observe is the result of a lack of critical thought and an unwarranted trust in institutions.
It ought to be obvious. Any time that any institution, government, society, etc, attempts (with exceptional force) to “help you” , it is most likely a “con game” and not at all good for you.
When your BS detector starts beeping, it is time to listen to yourself, not the herd of sheep.
As the emerging truth proves irrefutable more Good Germans will come forward with an admission they did not realize they were being lied to. They will blame those who withheld important information regarding the mRNA therapy and those who deliberately denied fellow citizens early stage treatment or preventative care.
Disgusting for sure, but I will graciously accept their half-hearted apologies because it beats their sanctimonious admonishments to “Flatten the Curve” or “Stop the Spread”or “______”….
I say we accept the Little Fish apologies in exchange for honest testimony in any civil or criminal actions against Big Fish.
Couldn’t have said this better Sharon!
And your response perfectly encapsulates my own experience – I too knew by spring of 2020 that things were not adding up, not making sense.
Unfortunately, there were very few, so very few, in my circle of work, family, and friends, who also were able to see through.
Just remember all the “firsts” made by humanity and their success rate and you will have enough reasons to stay well clear of mRNA gene based therapy. (dont call it a Vaccine)
I respect what you said (while wishing at times that you were kinder to yourself), but I have a slightly different take on it.
In Dr Cambell’s case, I don’t feel anger towards him because unlike many leaders, he at least walked the talk and followed his own advice. He personally assumed the risks he was recommending and may end up experiencing some consequences from those choices. It wasn’t a “do as I say, not as I do” situation. I watched a few of his videos during the pandemic and felt like he was doing his best at that time to process the information coming at all of us through the lens of his knowledge and experience. However, having worked in the medical industry for so long is a double-edged sword for him. On one hand, they probably see too much, but on the other, it may be harder for them to see the forest for the trees because they’re too close to it.
I had a chat over Christmas with a young cousin who is studying to become a PA. She was raised by a mother who doesn’t believe in vaccines and tends not to follow the herd. However, in our brief conversation, I could see how her daughter was already learning to parrot the guidelines of the associations and agencies that surround and influence the healthcare industry (e.g., the American Heart Association.) They’re conditioned to believe that stuff as part of their training (aka indoctrination), so after decades of hearing it, it probably takes that much more effort for people inside that industry to de-program themselves. At times, it might also be disillusioning because some mentors you genuinely trusted along the way may have unwittingly lied to you based on the flawed training they also received.
Lastly, I’ll throw in that my experience has been that intelligence comes in all different types and we don’t seem to have much say in which type we’re blessed with. My brother has 3 degrees, can speak 5 languages and recite lots of historical facts from memory, but he’s often clueless in the practicalities of life. He doesn’t mean to be; it’s just how he’s wired. Getting angry or frustrated with him does nothing to change his natural wiring. When my mom and I asked for a guided tour of the battlefields at Antietam, he was amazing. When we needed his help cleaning the deck, he was next to useless. My cousin can “MacGyver” a solution to just about any problem, but struggles with vocabulary, grammar and punctuation in her native tongue. It takes all types to make a world and none of us are perfect or perfectly smart. We just shine in different areas and work with what we have (and I doubt any of us can be considered a complete set.) It’s not always a question of who is smarter. It’s also about the unique mix of life experiences we’ve had when something new is thrown at us. They filter our thoughts and guide us in all different directions. Sometimes useful, sometimes not. We just have to do our individual best and then wait to see how things turn out. Best wishes to you.
Well said. I have a neice and nephew, MD and MD Phd, respectively. They are exceptionally bright, very nice, people. That said, they have some of the worst common sense I’ve ever seen. With three young children, they bought a new car that barely fit the five of them. Even their six year old said; “Why aren’t we getting a VAN?”.
I think much of the problem with today’s climate/virus/energy hysteria stems from a kind of indoctination over the years, all around us, that “experts” exist who know the “best” for us. In narrow cases, this is certainly true. But as complexity grows it becomes more and more dubious to unquestionably accept “wisdom” from anyone. As noted in the interview, the MD who connected a gut bacteria to ulcers was “humble”, a mere internist from Australia. He was wildly rediculed until he proved the thesis by drinking the bacterium and developing an ulcer. We are conditioned to look for an all wise “daddy” who can calm our fears with firm and proper directions. Unfortunately, anyone who’s been a parent knows daddy and mommy are groping in the dark almost as often as not with all manner of questions that arise. Life is messy. People don’t want it to be that way. Its even “messy” when the subject is a scientific concern.
“I would never dare claim I was smarter than him. ”
Depends on what we’re talking about really.
I would be comfortable saying that you are not arrogant as he is and that you have common sense, which he clearly lacks.
I’m with you, sharon. I knew they were lying about everything the minute they told all the healthy people to quote quarantine themselves unquote. You never never never quarantine healthy people! Anybody who had high school biology or had ever paid any attention to anything should have figured that out!
From that moment I knew that the whole thing was a huge con job and anyone with two brain cells to rub together should have figured it out as well.
Same thing with the masks. I went into the drugstore and pulled a box off the shelf and looked at the back of the box. (I know this is difficult but even a PhD can do it.) In 2020 the back of the boxes would say that it doesn’t prevent transmission of bacterial or viral disease. Case closed on masks.
I am angry because the people who bloody well should have done these two simple thought exercises did not do them, and here we are in this absolute dumpster fire.
By the way, The Masks now say on the back that they are not a medical device which is the same thing but a little less obvious for the masses. And the MDs I suppose.
It’s a very common mistake these days…..we constantly conflate education with wisdom while completely ignoring, that one can be incredibly wise and not be educated and conversely, be incredibly educated and not possess a modicum of wisdom.
‘Educated’ in any sort of public school or the majority of both public and private universities is today, and for many years has been, a liability insofar as being wise or smart in the way that counts most.
My verdict of guilty was rendered years ago. Simply a matter of common sense. Covid is a fake pandemic. Try to swallow that. Dr. John the Ripper knows but hes too chicken to say it.
Yes. He doesn’t want to lose his 2.6 million subscribers on YouTube. He treads warily, as that’s a huge chunk of change for him
Nawww ,they’re just arrogant Pricks
I had the facts and data the whole time ,reality check time for these men ,that are monsters inside 👍👌
Since when do good intentions absolve doctors from sheer negligence? Within weeks people were experiencing death or other horrific side effects…
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21.36
More importantly, satan uses the seduction of doing evil for a good cause. They knew they were doing evil, so claiming they thought it was for a good cause is not really a valid excuse.
Hey Humphrey, I’m throwing the b.s.flag on your excusing these creeps. Many and much information(S) were available to evidence the lies emanating from Pfizer and the CDC. These ‘doctors’ chose to stay ignorant. they could have learned, like millions of us, the Truth and stayed clear of their crimes.
No amnesty for these criminals. I hope the are locked up until hung by the neck until sufficient.
Yes. Every doctor knew Ivermectin was not just a horse drug.
The studies were out there early. The info was available to him.
How can anyone call themselve a doctor if they can’t be bothered to dig into a new tech platform/gene therapy experimental drug before recommending it to others?
Lots of lay people did the basic research enough to know there was a big problem. If he couldn’t take the time to learn what we did (his responsibility as a doctor), then he at least should have stayed quiet and not actually pushed the vax.
Is he just sorry or is he now making a real effort to try to find a way to help those who he jabbed –to clear excess spike proteins or recover from vax injury?
Doctors knew the jab was bad…saw the coin and said…yep. So much for do no harm.
The most common oath is “First do nothing unprofitable.”
Please……I knew who to trust and who not to trust. Never trust evil people
Master of the obvious! Never trust evil people. The challenge of course is discerning who is evil and who isn’t.
Don’t trust anyone.
“ We were just following orders from leadership, wasn’t our fault millions of Jews died..”
He should be strung up on a light pole.
Really? The average person with no medical or science education could look at these and know they were not safe but highly trained doctors couldn’t?
….that actually what they are telling us, isn’t it?
In the fall of 2020, prior to the rollout, my Mayo neurologist recommended I get the shot. I was shocked that someone at his level would fall into this trap. I agree that he thought he had my best interest at heart, but so did my neighbors. I understand an ill-informed but sincere piece of advice from a neighbor, but not from a physician from a prestigious clinic. They need to do some serious soul searching.
They need to do some serious qualification searching. No competent scientist in any field looks at a brand new development uncritically. And especially not when lives are at stake.
Ergo: These are rote-learning doctors, not men competent in the medical sciences.
Honest health professionals treating very sick patients with Covid during first half of 2020 were socked at what they saw. Add the relentless government propaganda and mandates….we shouldn’t forget the 20% that couldn’t be brainwashed cuts through IQ, economic status, race, sex. It’s a really interesting fenomena.
Yeah, no. NO tolerance for doctors ‘being fed faulty information.’ I was among the many non-medical people (I’m an engineer) who saw flashing yellow signals almost on day one and by doing no more than following other people’s links to serious experts in virology, epidemiology, molecular biology, (etc.) turned that flashing yellow into a solid red with whooping sirens.
Anyone with a medical background should have gotten in a couple-three hours to the place I did in maybe 20 hours spread over a few weeks. Even from the start all the issues — the reasons to see this not as a vaccination program but as a horribly dangerous experiment on most of the U.S. population without anything approaching informed consent — were easy to find if you went looking.
Sorry … I got no sympathy for any doctor who suffers from this stuff. And as to trusting any of you ever again, forget it. You’ve killed most of a million Americans already and you’re still at it. You rank just below Congressmen in my heart.
You are scum.
You may have assumed they had your best interests at heart, but if they truly did, they would have done their own research before advising you. Thank God you did not listen to them.
He put a mask on the stuffed dog in the window. That was all I needed to know about the dude. So wrong on so many levels.
I watched him trying to ‘justify’ the contradictions he Knew were/are apparent. Neil may want to interview Dr. Michael Yeadon.
Death Penalty
Lost trust in medical establishment?
Odd as I haven’t heard anything about large, or even small, numbers of Doctors Offices or Hospitals going out of business for lack of customers.
I think a large percentage of people have lost faith in the wuflu injections/boosters, but it doesn’t seem to have gone much past that. … … at least for now.
Trust is Earned
Lobotomies are legal
Most doctors are greedy frauds.
1) Tell that to the FBI.
2) Joe seems to have gotten one (although it seems to be a work in progress).
3) They seem to have no shortage of customers.
F I B can pound sand
IDGAF
The sheep are shepardless
No. The sheep have, mostly, turned away from The Shepherd.
Well, Joey did have two surgeries to repair brain aneurysms. The post – operative results: Not a heap of a difference, he is still the same moron he has always been.
Heck, most doctors have been chemically lobotomized…they don’t know WHAT they don’t know! ‘
Trust?? GONE! Whatever trust I had in any medical professional is gone. Rebuilding, if possible, will be the single biggest challenge the medical establishment faces in the next few years.
I think there’s at least 4,000 treepers who have lost faith in the medical establishment, based upon the comments a day or two ago in that dedicated thread. Then factor in all the I-read-but-don’t-comment treepers.
Sadly have to agree with you about docs and hospitals not going out of business. “Too big to fail” comes to mind.
How can they fail when they’ve disabled so many. They simply increased their payload.
there was a news report in 2017 or 2018 the medical malpractice was the 3rd leading cause of death. it was quickly buried and I dont think there were any further reports on it. it amounted to 250k to 400k per year for the USA
I have backed away from the medical establishment because of this. I thought the doctors followed orders like sheep at a time when evidence was starting to come out. I had several doctor friends who cut me off for disagreeing with the party line; it just never made sense to me. Made me even more adamant about childhood vaccines and other pharma ‘conspiracies’ that have probably been true all along.
Speaking just for myself, I’ll still go to see my doctor and listen to advice. I’m much less likely to follow it.
There are many of us who will not step foot in hospitals/facilities because of the last 2 years. I have told all my friends DO NOT transport me to a medical facility. I would rather die at home than be deliberately killed at a hospital. Which is where we are now.
I too will die at home. Make sure you have a medical POA with someone you trust!
Exactly…
re lack of customers???????????????? can you suggest another building I can go to for follow up oncology appointments?
I do NOT go to medical doctors or oncologists because I trust them.
It is not an either/or. Do not assume that because people continue to go to their primary physicians that it’s because they trust them.
This is the current challenge for those in need of medical care or who might one day need it:
How do we identify trustworthy doctors? In the 4000 treeper thread the other day, a few did have docs that offered early treatment and advised against the shot. So there are a few good ones out there. But how do we find them?
Worse I fear ever one day needing to go to a hospital With the financial incentives (via medicare/medicaid rules) to give Remdesivir and use ventilators –what if hospital care is some day needed? Are there any trustworthy hospitals?
We are in need of a separate healthcare system that we can trust, both doctors and hosptals.
“How do we identify trustworthy doctors?”
At the moment, it’s a crapshoot. We make the best judgment we can, do what we have to do, and keep moving.
I have no confidence in any portion of the “medical profession” going forward. Period. I will do what I have to do from day to day, and my entire immediate family knows I have two priorities: 1) Absolutely DO NOT accept admission to any hospital if I have covid and 2) don’t accept admission to any hospital for anything less specific than a compound fracture.
I’ll die at home, thank you.
I have a form for specific instructions related to COVID care. It goes into great detail regarding the prohibition of Remdesvir administration and provides links to CDC recommended Ivermectin treatment. Hard copy is to be given to hospital staff on admission and uploaded into the electronic chart with hard copy clipped to outside of physical chart. If someone can give me clear instructions on uploading documents here, I will share it.
Additionally, if there’s anybody that hasn’t already done so, stock up on the Zelinko protocol supplements, or similar, and have them at the ready in the event that you contract C-19, the Flu, or other respiratory illnesses. For the unvaccinated, the risk of serious illness is quite low.
And, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, over 18, needs an advanced directive, as well as a Medical Power of Attorney.
Blessings and good health. Indi, RN
Don’t just stock up on the Zelensky suggested vitamins. Take them every day. You’ll be surprised how much better you feel.
D3, C, Zinc, Quercetin, K2, NAC
There is good news. Physician options are going online with virtual care. Check these out (I have not tried them yet, so cannot vouch for reliability, but I have them bookmarked possible for future use):
https://www.twc.health/pages/leadership (Dr. Peter McCullough is on board of this one.)
I also ran across another couple options when I was looking for doctors who would support ivermectin and/or HCQ therapeutics.
https://www.faithhopelovemedical.com/
https://myfreedoctor.com/
The AMA is a highly politicized organization whose members are largely supportive of the leftist agenda of the Democrat Party. Medical professionals and others who are interested in learning more about the state of medical practice and practitioners in this country should become acquainted with the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons.
You are right to be concerned. Maybe we need to rely on the market. Concierge Medical offices have been successful so maybe there needs to be a similar approach for Urgent Care facilities and Surgical Centers.
You can try a Naturopath, Functional Medicine Doctor or Integrative Medicine doctor. Also, I have found that, in general, D.O.’s are more “common sense” focused than M.D.’s.
That is very true Sharon.
There are many who still need medical treatment and must go somewhere to acquire it.
I had to take my elderly neighbor in to the local ER in the middle of the night a few weeks ago because she was in so much pain she was screaming and writhing on the floor.
Her husband called me and my husband and we took her in.
Those who say they will never ever go in to a hospital have never seen an 88 year old woman begging us to please take her to the doctor because the pain was so severe she could not stand it.
She badly needed strong prescription pain meds for four days while they tried to diagnose her problem.
Most of us will not die quietly in our beds, it can be a long painful death that might send you begging for medical intervention or help of some kind for the relief of excruciating pain that you can only get from a medical provider of some kind.
I understand your point. Yup.
We don’t really know what we will do until we are faced with debilitating excruciating pain. I have instructed my family to NOT take me to a hospital unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary. Now that nations are pushing ‘death with dignity’ (euthanasia) simply because you’re having a bad day severely complicates any such decisions. Hospitals use to be viewed as a place of safety, a place of refuge where people had your best interests at heart. Now, it seems, they just want to put you out of your misery and collect big bucks in the process. For younger folk in good health this matter is less pressing. However, for someone in my age group (70’s) or older, such a decision is much more troublesome. All I find to do is place my well-being in God’s hands daily and trust Him for His Mercy. Is being afraid a lack of Faith as some preachers proclaim? I do not believe so. If that were true, why was Jesus sweating drops of blood in the Garden of Gethsemane?
Now that is a very interesting comment “offcoursenation”.
Few, if any, medical practitioners went out of business.
Not like so many small business we watched go under during the last two and a half years in our communities due to lock downs and sever masking laws.
Now that the tide has turned and we are focusing our righteous anger on the medical profession they seem to want to cry and whine and beg some kind of forgiveness.
If they think we are going to let those responsible for killing young people and children and maiming our loved ones just walk away they are nuts.
There are some good old school doctors out on substack now with some great writing about the perilous state of professional medicine these days – Dr. Samizdat is one –
https://thegooddoctor.substack.com/p/gesundheitzkrieg?sd=pf
…and another gentleman who I don’t have bookmarked, and no open tabs to him. I’ll dig up a link and follow up when possible.
They are well aware that their profession has beclowned itself and destroyed credibility and trust, and they are pondering how to rebuild, along the lines of Neil’s closing question regarding if Dr. Campbell was omnipotent ruler, and could reconstruct the medical establishment to work and regain trust – “local, with far less management and complexity (I paraphrase)”
And to the point:
If absolutely necessary I will talk with a doctor in a zoom call appointment. However, I can’t see myself meeting in person. I don’t want any medical professional near me.
My Irish Granny wouldn’t go near any doctors or hospitals and lived to be 85. And I’m now going on 82 and haven’t had a personal physician for over 50 years. I’ve been confined to a hospital bed only one night in my life due to an auto accident injury, and my only medication is Levothyroxin. From what I’m told an alarming and increasing percentage of routine out-patient medical care nowadays is handled by nurse practitioners.
Actually my General Practioner’s practice had signs up saying “No new patient’s accepted” ,pre COVID.
Now they are touting for clients with “New patients welcome” on a billboard outside their premises.
I am thinking lots of their patients died or left in disgust.
We will have to use their services even though we don’t trust them. Sensible people will do more personal study, get more second opinions, more often decide to NOT get treated for something that likely won’t matter in the big picture.
I’ve seen signs of the death of real medicine most of my adult life but never thought it would go belly up so suddenly. But here we are and we will have to cope with it as best we can.
On the matter of losing trust, I think a better example would be in lost trust in the RNC Chairwoman.
https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/COSA-RNCChair-Full-Report-0111.pdf
Harmeet Dhillon 86%
Ronna McDaniel 14%
Others 0%
Speaking of lack of trust: Dhillon is a RNC lawyer and, according to Mark Finchem, in her capacity as RNC lawyer who should have been mounting the fight against the fraudulent midterm election in AZ, she abandoned him, Lake, Abe, and Blake to go down to Georgia and mess up Walker’s campaign.
Mike Lindell is running for RNC Chair, can’t get any mainstream airtime to advertise that fact, and would probably be a good bet for turning yet another corrupted institution around.
Harmeet is not to be trusted! I think I like her even less than Romney junior.
Dr Campbell is waaaaay late to this party.
Preceding him by a long shot was British funeral director John O’Looney, whose videos are easily accessible. There are so many it was difficult to choose one to post.
And like Dr Campbell, he, too, believed the lies and propaganda spewed out by a government who has hidden everything. His journey from belief to sceptism to outrage to conviction that these pharma poisons were developed with the sole purpose of depopulating the earth has been instructive. He has been interviewed at length by Reiner Fuellmich.
This is the first time he was interviewed just as the suspicions were being raised. And so started his journey. He’s a brave man who wouldn’t shut up. We need his strong voice. I admire this man tremendously.
I like how they introduced the word ‘sinister’ into the conversation… Cheers, Bet!
The Brits are good at choosing the mot juste, Jeff. If you have time his interviews are incredibly forthright and honest. A lot of them are on rumble and bitchute. Hope you are well, my friend. Blessings to you.
I watched some of Dr. John’s early pandemic videos where he was dishing out the conventional view of so many recommendations, like nutrients such as 400 – 600 IU of vitamin D3 (vs 2000 – 4000/5000 – 10,000 IU vD3 with substantially improved blood levels, see vitaminDwiki.com).
Like many I tracked the mostly conventional views of MedCram and DrBeen as the tried to apply emerging information about Coivd to conventional medicine.
IMHO, DoctorYourself.com, Life Extension Foundation, Orthomolecular News gave much better nutrient recommendations that better reflected current knowledge.
Here’s their Jan 2020 recommendation for conservative, simple nutrients.
I would have felt sorry for John if I didn’t realize how many people were following him as he sleepwalks toward the light over three years.
links didn’t attach, early 2020 OMNS example
https://riordanclinic.org/2020/02/vitamin-c-protects-against-coronavirus/
“Vitamin C protects against Covid” – brings back yet another “blast from the past” of the sordid Covid history:
Does anyone remember, as I do, the FBI raid of a clinic using intravenous Vitamin C to treat Covid patients?
fbi-raids-medical-clinic-offering-vitamin-c-treatment-for-coronavirus
Orthomolecular News is fantastic…learned about Vit C and dose a very long time ago. Read Suzanne Humphries as well.
Go to the source. Read Linus Pauling himself.
Very early on when we were still in the “Hug a Chinaman” phase of covid, I saw an interview with Fauxci. Interviewer was asking him what he does in flu season and he said he takes massive doses of Vit C. When everyone started testing pos for Cov, I was popping Vit C chewables like M&Ms. I’d always heard that your body flushes out what it doesn’t absorb and that you can’t take too much. About 6 mos later I had a kidney stone. While looking up contributing factors, etc., Excessive amounts of Vit C was a culprit. I guess the moral is you can indeed have too much of a good thing.
I too was disappointed in any recommendation for too little Vit D. My husband is 85, I am 78. We have been on Vit D3, 10,000iU per day since the start and our levels are in upper range. Not too high but great protection.
A year ago I sent to India a request for Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Received 90 tablets of each, but having not experienced any symptoms of the Covid virus I’ve yet to take these medications. I do take 10,000IU of D3 every morning along with 50mg of Zinc. I have several other medications recommended to prevent the onset of the virus but haven’t felt the need to use them. I’m a youngish 81 by the way! It took me a couple of weeks to conclude that governments, crooked politicians, and crooked pharmaceutical CEOs were in collusion with the CCP to reap trillions of dollars with this enormous and deadly scam.
Like so many of us we want to believe in our government. We are all people and in the end we all want whats’ best for our respective country and its people.
Instead they’ve had the West commit suicide. Everything including the Wuhan Con all led to the same ends, dictatorial rule by a world government using healthscare to get us to willingly jump in the cattle cars. .
As more and more people, like the good doctor, are being red pilled, our commonality will be their demise. We are now into the absurd and people are seeing the lunacy.
Great interview.
I took the first two shots even though I really didn’t want to. Without the shot I would be denied access to get surgery for prostate cancer.
That is reprehensible, morally corrupt. Criminals.
F Mills
…it isn’t breakdown of trust….
It’s breakdown of trustworthiness…
Paul Ryan should be able to share on this topic
Excellent. That’s how I will refer to it from now on.
“This has been a painful journey for John Campbell as he outlines in the interview. ”
This was the case with my husband’s personal physician, who encouraged his ‘at risk’ patients get the ‘vaccine’. He wasn’t high pressure in his recommendation so it was easy for my husband to decline the clot shot.
The physician got the initial mRNA and the 2nd shot himself, as advised by every government institution. He sent a letter out explaining after his 2nd shot his PSA numbers shot up immediately (he did before and after lab work on himself for both injections). He was dx’d with prostate cancer the next day and is currently being treated with a good prognosis.
The physician ended his letter notifying his patients that he was no longer recommending any C19 vaccines. As with Dr. Campbell, we are grateful for my husband’s physician letting folks know about his change of heart.
Many doctors won’t admit they were wrong/wronged. No one wants to appear stupid.
No one wants to be sued.
Doctors don’t changed their diagnosis or admit they are wrong.
The laugh is on them. Not admitting when you are wrong is the quickest route to appearing stupid.
People growing and learning absolutely must be commended.
But at the same time, what happened to basic science. As a doctor, would he have recommended low risk people to take anything at all that is an experimental treatment. And then you can also look at other negatives, like not doing his homework on the data.
So, I guess it’s a balance of commendation and condemnation. It’s a grey area and I am also torn.
If you back it up and listen to the entire interview, he discusses his background in academics and RESEARCH! He surely should have known better. BTW, he’s a nurse with a PhD, not an MD. I saw a video of him early on. He was a milquetoasty fence straddler and a complete turn off. He’s fully aware of the egregiousness of the situation, but too timid to directly address the issue of intentionality.
He’s not a medical doctor. He has a doctorate in I believe nursing.
Not quite a double-down , it’s a pivot.
@VigilantFox
Narrative Collapsing, Unexplained Deaths: A Shift in the Story Is Coming Soon –
“One of my sources in the government told me that … the White House is potentially preparing to declare an epidemic of sudden death and that they might blame long COVID …”
I’m concerned we’ll see a combined wave of cOviD and sudden ailments now that colleges are going back on campus. College kids are the most ‘boosted’ cohort of people, my theory.
Kids always get sick right when they go back, right?
ADE. All the ferrets died.
Boosters act as both an attractor and a positive feedback. I hope I’m wrong. Or if I’m right, it doesn’t work as well as designed.
We should start asking ‘does [suddenly victim] have a fi+bi+ ?’ in addition to ‘did they get the vax?’
I pray every day that this is wrong.
The data is strong. Thread explains more shots = more illness
@VigilantFox
What could explain the increased risk of catching COVID-19 with each subsequent injection? Dr. Hoffe attests, “The reason why you’re more likely to get COVID is because [of] the damage [done] to your immune system
You are not allowed to ask if they got the shot.
If I hear one more claim of “long COVID” I’m going to scream.
About a year ago the British had a comprehensive study, and found that “long COVID” consisted of 20-something possible symptoms occurring more than a months after your infection. You only had to have ONE to be in the “long COVID” group, and even then, only 3% of the population would qualify.
But here we are, pretending most of the recovered are getting long COVID when what they really have is the common cold. A headache, stuffy nose, sore throat… must be long COVID!
Perhaps the vax injured are misdiagnosed as “long covid”?
How absolutely absurd.
They (WH) will get some, but not many is my guess (hopefully), to buy into this – long covid as explanation of sudden death – at this late stage.
Most of those “dying suddenly” are experiencing just that – dying suddenly – with no “backstory” of having been experiencing symptoms over a long period of time.
any industry or profession that recieves funding made avaialble by the usg’s counterfeiting operation is corrupt. the input market signals are based on the usg’s ability to counterfeit.
education, health care, military, etc.
the human ecology is entirely out of whack. there are entire cities in places they would not exist but for the usg’s counterfeiting operations.
Losing trust?? How about a betrayal by the medical establishment. A COMPLETE betrayal of medical moral and ETHICAL standards.
^^^This^^^
I am not a medical professional, but I am a PhD and a retired researcher. I am also a very serious autoimmune patient of many years. So I know what it is to apply the scientific method and fundamental logic to what I had to learn by necessity regarding the human body…and apply what I’ve learned to staying healthy.
When the design of the mRNA COVID “vaccines” was first trumpeted by a jubilant Powers That Be I immediately knew something was wrong: There was just no way that gene therapy hijacking my body to mass-produce spike protein and antibodies to the original Wuhan strain was going to work, let alone do it safely, i.e., without doing major damage along the way.
I said “Hell, no” to myself, to my family, to my doctors…my body is already very screwed up.
Here we are some two years later…my primary care doc who screamed at me for not taking the jab died suddenly; I’m one of the 28% who personally knows someone who died from it.
So I have little sympathy for Dr. Campbell and the millions of medical minions whose critical thinking and courage seemingly left on permanent vacations in 2020. Am I glad he’s coming around? Sure. But why was I not convinced so early on regarding the jabs, and why are Campbell and those like him are just now figuring things out?
Perhaps Campbell, Leana Wen, and others are trying to stay ahead of the crumbling narrative, hoping to retain some relevance and perhaps save their own necks. That’s the most generous explanation I can contemplate.
one of my doctors died of heart complications. one has been visited by leukemia. both kind and thoughtful doctors, but obedient.
May as well just say it…
Paul Ryan is a sorry POS…right there with Boehner and Pelosi….
But when it comes to sorry…even Ryan an Boehner can’t hold a candle to NanZi…
She is the queen bitch of destroy our republic…
Ryan and Boehner are just boot lickers…
What would McCarthy do?
Were it not for Ryan’s betrayal we would have not had Nancy’s. without Ryan she is not SOH.
Dr Campbell is awesome! He realized something was wrong, and he is addressing it.
How about free medical care to try and reverse any vaccine damage done? That might be a good start.
They would tell us they have a vaccine that reverses the vaccine. ugh
The problem is that literally millions of people will need that care. Nothing on that scale can actually be ‘free.’ It’s just ‘where do you want to shift those costs?’
What might be best would be to work out a home care/detox program and prepackage that. I think some doctors are already doing this.
The medical field is going to be critically short of competent workers though. Nothing that adds doctor visits ought to be assumed practical.
As we recognize and gradually accept poverty for the middle class over the next few years, this is one of the major reasons. The other, I think, will be the ‘green’/EV fad which is headed for the wall maybe 3 years from now and will also turn out to have been a nearly complete waste of a few $trillion.
Apparently, you haven’t heard of the VA.
“Free” doesn’t mean there’s no cost. It just means somebody else is paying for it.
And it certainly doesn’t mean “you” aren’t paying for it!
Or, as my brother likes to sign all his emails, “There’s no such thing as a free lunch.”
I think this is widespread, and I don’t think they can get the trust back after what they did. Personally, I don’t trust any doctor at this point. I mean if 90% of them took the clot shot what does that say about their judgement and medical knowledge?
I still trust my podiatrist but I fired my longtime primary care practice over their mask policy and now go to a concierge practice that a redneck cowboy cardiologist operates.
luv it. giddyup.
I am not defending them by any means, but many were freaked out and overwhelmed, like many they just wanted things to get back to normal. I friend of mine is an ER doc and she was searching all over the place to purchase protective gear for herself and staff. She couldn’t wait for the vaxx to become a reality because she believed it would protect everyone and she wouldn’t have to go to work everyday in fear of her life.
W/that said, heck no, I don’t trust any doctor or medical personnel. Nothing peeves me more than to be on the phone and listen to them repeat the mantra they were given to project on us
I will always stand on medical autonomy. What my medical/dental professionals have lost is my total respect. I have become more diligent in researching my medical options.
He’s still trying rationalize ..
I’m just w.dumb Plebe ,but I knew the facts and science ….
Looks like his Hubris caught up to him
Hope he learned…
The penalty for corruption of the medical industry should be death when said corruption causes global death
Its worse than we imagine.
@RobertKennedyJr
4/ Vioxx, which was Merck’s blockbuster drug until 2006, killed between 100K and 500K Americans. It was a drug that Merck marketed as a headache pill, knowing that it caused heart attacks … They knew it from their clinical trials — and they hid that fact from the public.
I think Celebrex was another?
Gee, wonder why no one would trust doctors after administering a shot that gives 2/3 heart damage…https://voxday.net/2023/01/16/the-damage-is-ubiquitous/
well I’m glad the doctor is coming around–but he is the PERFECT EXAMPLE of why what little trust many had in the med establishment has withered. He chose to stay ignorant, uninformed, and elitist about the issues reqarding the covid scam, the testing scam, the theraputics scam, and the mRNA gene therapy scam.
Being of a curious nature, searching and learning my entire life, I stayed current on the facts exposed by many, to many, on the web. We knew there was no “vaccine’ for this or any other known coronavirusI. We easily chose to NOT GET JABBED by these dangerous concoctions–he could have done the same and yet he not only got jabbed, he advised others to do so. I wish he was locked up along with every other one of these charlatans.
“Knowing what you know now”. Dr. John Campbell is a hack and I know this because I was folloowing him for almost 2 years as people thought he was measured in his approach. In reality, he was naive as fk and mislead many of his viewers which is obviously detrimental.
What about those of us who knew back then what is confirmed now? Those of us who were mocked by family, friends, isolated and now come the apologies. Too fkn late.
….and I noticed that when he was asked that “knowing what you know now” question, it took about 3-4 attempts on Neil’s part to get him to answer it. He still can’t make up his mind what he knows or doesn’t know.
I followed him, too, for that measured approach and I was interested in a view from the UK. He was too worried about getting cancelled by YouTube. Sorry doc, too little too late.
You have to go back to Obama and Obamacare. That changed everything in the medical field. Before Obama, doctors had far more leeway in how to treat patients. After all the changes to HIPAA and passage of Obamacare and new ICD10 codes, hospitals became administrative states. Doctors were required to follow specific procedures from the medical system if the hospital was to get money. In the ER for instance, if someone came in with chest pain, doctors couldn’t go by their individual prognosis, but had to follow a set procedure for tests, etc. Hospital management now controlled things and it was dictated by money, not a patient’s best interest.
Enter Covid. Hospital management already controlled the doctors, nurses, and staff. Now a small team (CEO, president, VP, CFO, etc) controlled what happened rather than individual doctors. This was all in place long enough for doctor’s to get used to it and settle into the system. That’s part of the reason the medical field failed so badly.
Too many things were changed over the decades that it’s going to be tough to fix them.
Well let some brave doctors show some spine and create new medical practices off the government teat. People will flock to them after this disaster.
Thank you. I was just silently screaming that in my head. The healthcare industry does NOT function without doctors. They need to stand up to this crap.
Yes. This and the trans crap.
I discovered the lie early in 2020 on a perfect early March day. I decided to take the vette for its first run of the new year. I drove down to the Baystate hospital to observe firsthand the overwhelming number of patients. There were several ambulances outside idle. After half hour of an empty lot i decided to go into the hospital. It was empty. No action in the ER. This is a very large medical facility and No Activity. So I drove to the Mercy Hospital. Another large hospital and observed that nothing was happening. There was a triage tent outside the ER doors but it was abandoned. A doctor leaving stopped to talk with me. I inquired about the crowds and he just laughed. Told me it wasn’t happening. All bs from the beginning. If only people checked out what was being reported they may have been warned. Never trust the media. National, local or regional. Lies , all lies.
All true, but the nurses made great YouTube dance routines.
Yes, no doubt leaving their helpless patients to die on the ventilator or from remdesivire.
My brother had a Chevette and loved it.
lame
True. Nurses were being canceled and having to use Vacation hours, or Paid Time Off, to make up for lost hours. Every paycheck for months.
To be English is not comparable with being American…yet? Up until this new age 21st Century, the differences were many and palpable. The good doctor is English…go a little lighter on him, he doesn’t have our American sense of Life and Liberty. By God…they still have a ‘queen’ playing a king?
Since it’s a cultural thing, I’ll let the English cut him some slack. It’s curious to me that we are paying so much attention to what an English doctor thinks. There are enough doctors in America to interview.
This a Great Britain news show. Neil is one of us. John is not.
I like Neil. Especially his monologues. John Campbell is the subject.
There are still enough doctors in America to interview. CTH is a blog in America. Neil’s interview with John Campbell was a virtual interview. He could have done it with anyone, anywhere.
John Campbell is not getting much love here, except from a few syndrome’d souls. Campbell’s ‘come to Jesus’ moment is a bit tepid. Too little too late.
FTR, I’m always a bit wary when someone uses ‘one of us’ talk. Just stand and speak for yourself. As a listener, I’ll handle the rest. Discernment is not a ‘collective’ sport.
Neil is awake and has the courage to call it like it is. John is also awake; but, lacks courage. Possibly due to his earlier lack of discernment.
Better?
I’m making a correction. I see John Campbell is in Australia.
Campbell is a PhD not an MD.
See Englishman Dr. Vernon Coleman, a bit quirky, “An Old Man in a Chair”. He hasn’t been buying any of it for a long while. They call him a conspiracy theorist.
Or has he been more of a realist all along?
I wonder….
I lost respect for Campbell who I saw once interview a vax injured professional cyclist and was aghast at his complacency and what appeared to be disinterest in this young man’s tragic story. I saw his act of contrition and reflected back on the videos I had seen and realized my discomfort of him was warranted. When I watched how he handled the cyclist I felt he had and has a duty to connect remained as he listen to this man’s tragic cardiac injury. He did not do that. I was turned off and avoided his you tubes thereafter. I found him too pro pandemic. I assumed ( my mistake) that he was in fact a medical doctor. During his confession he talked of his degrees. He has his PhD in nursing. Not that should discredit his intelligence ( it did mine :)) for assuming, but it put his behavior in a different light. I am an RN I do not have a PhD nor would have chosen that degree. It was another example of buyer beware. If you are going to listen to someone make sure you know their credentials before you drink their Koolaide.
I watched that, too. It was heartbreaking.
One point that he made is that he reads the data and finds that he comes to a different conclusion than the government.
As someone who has read some medical journals in the past – since my days at university, I have not always agreed with the conclusions.
In my younger days I just figured that the scientists/authors of the articles were incorrect in their interpretation. But now that I have a bit more life experience, I realise there’s probably more sinister motives in at least some, but probably many of the cases.
And to be fair, this disagreement with conclusions didn’t happen for me very often. Just very occasionally.
My applause and appreciation to CTH for proactively and strategically coordinating with people like Mr. Oliver to spread the word and get it out to a larger audience.
However, as he states in the interview, he can no longer assert his belief in the science that led him to his original decision, and given what he knows now, he would not have taken the vaccine.
Of course the doctor has company on this matter. And is the real issue today. The percentage of those who received at least 1 shot is extremely…that means the potential for massive health related problems. All this self back patting is not helpful.
Time for some preparations.
Imagine being an educated medical professional and believing the lies put forth by a proven criminal cartel like Pfizer or the government liars who own stock in Pfizer.
My goodness if Dr. Campbell for 1 minute trusted the government or big Pharma to tell the truth he’s not very well informed.
I have to wonder if Nurse Campbell was all pro vaccine until there was no money in it and now that there’s no money in it, he wants to stay a step ahead of the tar and feathers?
I guess the Diamond Princess story required too much work to follow up?
Sorry sir, you’re way too late & for the damage done there can be no Covid amnesty for either the perpetrators nor their willing enforcers.
Sudden Invented Syndrome Syndrome
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/is-coincidence-now-the-leading-cause
Exactly. Medicine: if you don’t know what’s going on, give it a name…or even better, an acronym.
I’m growing more and more convinced that Covid-19 was an accidental release of a virus still under development … a virus that mostly leftist elites worldwide planned to use to cull the population at some point. Unfortunately for them, it got loose prematurely, before it had been fully perfected and before they had a counter to it (which they obviously would been developed after it’s full development and before it’s release). I suppose we should count ourselves lucky.
God’s plan interferred.
I think Dr Campbell was the co inventor of Ivermectin. I have had COVID twice and each time ivermectin moderated my condition. I felt something coming on last week and took one before bed and felt fine in the morning.
No, sorry. Please look up the inventors of Ivermectin. One of the inventors/developers was a Campbell, but not the same guy.
I have pity on organizational people. I could have been one myself but my life took different turns. You have to know how to hold your silence to get along in groups, something I am not so good at.
It was a privilege to listen to these two very thoughtful men.
I recall when Dr. Campbell tried to go through the data at the beginning of the pandemic, and I knew he believed the lie.
But, he stuck with it, and he changed his opinions and he was humble about it, because the true data doesn’t lie.
It was good for my soul to see someone in the medical establishment actually following the data and not an agenda.
He came to logical conclusions.
I think it’s harder for people in the medical community to admit they’ve made an enormous mistake that caused death, than for non-medical professions. They did the opposite of their hippocratic oath. There’s much less empathy in healthcare these days. Maybe the good folks left the profession.
And I do wish Pfizer would declare bankruptcy and be gone. So much destruction out of that company. No ethics whatsoever.
Wow. Guess I should’ve read all the preceding comments instead of watching the whole video, before commenting. Rough ride here tonight. I’m just as angry as everyone else. But, I want to give Dr. Campbell the credit he deserves having corrected his point of view, which our governments have not done, nor the medical community writ large, nor the media, etc.
That’s a hair on the snarky side.
I too watched the whole video. I got the sense that Campbell was still looking for a way to straddle the fence while Oliver was trying his best to make it uncomfortable for him…politely.
So did I.
Like John Campbell, Ph D, I am a nurse. He’s been around a lot longer than I have, yet he seems not have known about the previous scams perpetrated by both Anthony Fauci and that Brit that wrongly predicted the outrageous death rates, that caused the initial “Two weeks to stop the spread” nonsense. Campbell gets a big fat “F” for having exceedingly poor critical thinking, at the outset, and ZERO discernment! He’s way too late to the party to receive any accolades. The only thing he deserves credit for is leading those of his followers that trusted his advice, into high risk categories for everything the Spike has to offer.
Someone who should know better, deserves no credit for coming late to the party. His credentials force a more severe judgement, though he may escape the fire.
I knew then what I know now – and I didn’t take the jab then.
Dr. refers to ‘ the Cleveland Study ‘ in this thread, there is proof now.
So, in other words, it is the exact opposite of what the medical authorities are telling us. It’s not keeping you safe. It’s not keeping anyone else safe. You’re more likely to get and spread COVID If you’ve had your latest booster.”
@VigilantFox
Dr. John Campbell has not yet come to terms with the notion that his government could care less about its citizens.
some people took screenshots in early January 2020 of CDC guidelines. PCR testing guidelines recommended 40 cycles. I looked around and did NOT see people dropping dead in the street–except in New York.
Anyone who believed that governments have the best interests of the people at heart has never paid attention, and has never read the Bible. It’s money and “Love of money is the root of all evil.”
I’m 73, with comorbilities, never stayed home, never masked unless forced, never got the jab, and never got Covid.
Also never got a flu or pneumonia shot, and never got either. Also smoked for over 60 years–150 pack-years–and no lung cancer.
FYI – and you may already be aware of this — several studies, the most recent published in Sweden, have suggested that smokers are less likely to experience spike protein damage, if vaccinated. Apparently those mRNA spike proteins can’t deal with the nicotine. Since spike proteins apparently shed to the unvaccinated, perhaps the same correlation could be made. Absolutely no snark here. I just found the studies fascinating.
I remember reading that as well. It is fascinating. I think the nicotine binds with the receptor that the Spike was designed for.
I was surprised that the Doc didn’t know the PCR cycles run. It was readily available information for anyone seeking it. Quite a number of people pointed out that the high number of cycles run would greatly increase the numbers of false positives.
Fantastic, what a wonderful thing to get to sit in the room with two brilliant, accomplished, articulate thinkers speaking and questioning truth. Neil is a remarkable interviewer; you can see how hard and carefully he listens, while thinking hard on ‘presenting’ his next question.
My favorite moment – discussing why existing treatments were squashed (HCQ, IVM, etc.) – John says “… some people would say that Big Pharma could not make money that way”, and Neil responds, very firmly – “I am some of those people, John.”
The discussion on excess deaths was interesting – it is apparent that Dr. Campbell, being of the very system under suspicion, seemingly cannot bring himself to even ponder the possibility, when asked about the lack of action or even comment from TPTB (The Powers That Be) regarding what should be an alarming happening, that it is quite likely that TPTB have indeed noticed, and are concerned that it is not happening fast enough – that excess deaths are the intentional outcome of the global distribution of the ‘vaccines’. Neil obviously has come to grips with that possibility but, being a gentleman and respectful of his guest, he leaves it unsaid.
The good Doctor’s discussion about the distinction between proper vaccines, and mRNA ‘vaccines’, was very cogent, but I think he’s a bit too optimistic about the level of sophistication and knowledge of the common folk that Neil is concerned had lost all faith in vaccination in particular, and medicine in general. Point, Neil.
Good show, gents!
“I’m not going to vaccinate you, Neil, to stop you making someone else sick.” Well, doc, that’s exactly what they were asking us to do from Day One. Doesn’t take the rest of us 3 years to see what was going on from the get-go.
I should say … “Didn’t take the rest of us …”
The obvious reason The State is MANDATING vaccination and boosters is … because it’s their communist manifesto. They don’t BELIEVE in the individual patient, and the individual patients situation. They only care about the collective. If you’re not vaccinated… then you might harm your comrades. The hell with YOU … it’s all about the collective
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Bingo. As a medical professional, he had access to relevant studies before the rest of us did. In law it’s called due diligence. He didn’t perform that. He doesn’t get a pass.
I watched many of Dr. Campbell’s videos starting I believe in the summer of 2020. I always saw him as calm, curious, and reasoning. Unfortunately, he was also far too cautious and trusting and seemed to place his trust solely in data with no weight given to intuition based on a larger picture of human nature and history. I’m glad that he is coming around, albeit slowly. He reminds me of Dr. Malone in his early ventures into the world of the resistance.
Hmmm, Dr. Malone boldly addressed the issue when it took real courage to do so. He did it at great personal risk and cost. Campbell, PhD, speaks like he’s far too concerned about the YouTube police.
As I type this I have yet to listen to this interview. I am not defending Dr. Campbell but one needs to keep in mind that he is a product of a socialist system/society. After watching parts of several recent videos, it appears he now understands the error of his ways. If he sincere in his current beliefs, he has to live the rest of his life knowing his medical advice has quite possibly resulted in the injury and or deaths of an unknown number of people.
I grew up in the Vietnam War Era. Why would I ‘trust” Government about anything, anywhere.
We questioned the VietNam War, which is not healthy for children, and other living things … and now the government is filled with remnants of our generation who will NOT allow dissent. Will NEVER allow protest against RIDICULOUS government adventures. They will shut us up. They learned how their own protests hurt The State … and now that they have power … will never allow it.
From dissing The Man to becoming The Man.