I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

PART TWO OF TWO PARTS: Again, being older I have the benefit of living through many life situations during which my trust in other people or institutions has been fully challenged. The Covid crisis is at the top of that list.
Having mistrusted the CDC under Obama, it would take a sizable reset to regain my faith. In working with dangerous viruses and creating vaccines we can only hope our leading virologists and epidemiologists are moral, forthright, and dedicated. That hasn’t always been the case. In 1932 (and up to 1972), the U.S. Public Health Service, coordinating with the CDC (yes, the same CDC), initiated the Tuskegee Study in Alabama, of 600 impoverished African-American sharecroppers, to study the effects of syphilis when untreated. The infected men were told they would receive free health care, but were NOT informed of the nature of the experiment – that the syphilis was never going to be cured. Even though 15 years into the 40-year window, penicillin was discovered that could have eradicated the syphilis, the CDC nevertheless continued NOT treating the men for the disease, so they could see how the disease metastasized. As the worsening syphilitic conditions continued, over 100 men died.
As I read the previous paragraph and I am reminded of the MANY online videos of Dr. Fauci’s experiments on Beagles, where the compliant pups were strapped down on a table with their head in a sealed chamber, where sand flies could eat away at the beagle’s face, eyes, and flesh until the dogs died. Fauci even had the dog’s vocal chords cut, in his words, “to eliminate the noise annoyance.” Add to this graphic portrayal, the sordid fact that Fauci’s wife is in charge of bio-ethics at NIH. If you’re still considering getting the shot, just ask yourself if you want to take advice from a man who does vile animal experiments on Beagles until they die.
Politics in 2023 is certainly a matter of life or death. Dr. Fauci admitted to Jake Tapper on CNN, that the NIH spent hundreds of thousands of dollars funding Coronavirus experiments at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. He says however it didn’t go to gain-of-function experiments (experiments where viruses are altered to be more deadly). Even though that’s what the Wuhan Institute does!
I trust the CDC and Dr. Fauci now, as much as I would have trusted the CDC back in 1932. He is a rollercoaster ride of contradictions, and one on whom the entire United States put their faith, when our citizens were locked up, lost jobs, homes, businesses, or loved ones, and who relinquished their sovereign freedoms.
Today, I know at least 50 people who’ve had Covid but who have never gotten the jab. They now all consider themselves naturally immune. I am one. My niece didn’t want to get the shot, but she was offered a job as a medical assistant if she got the jab. She did and she got the job. Three months in and she’s already had Covid twice. I have a friend who had Covid, but decided to get the shot anyway, followed by two boosters. After all that, she also has had Covid twice. IMHO: The state of the vaccine now – seems to be, if you have NOT had Covid and you get the current Covid jab, it practically guarantees you WILL get Covid. Sorry, my opinion.
If you’ve had Covid and haven’t had the jab – stick with it, don’t do it, you’re probably immune (unless you have underlying conditions and don’t take Vitamin D). Two reports I’ve seen said over 65% of people who died from Covid were Vitamin D deficient. That stands to reason, when many of the old folks in care facilities are confined or bedridden and can’t get outside in the sunshine.
Last, many Americans have become sheep, while the MSM, big tech, and woke haters, are the Judas Goats leading dependent, lazy, or uncaring ‘sheeple’ up the slaughter-ramp to their demise. IN THIS SURVEY, those here who haven’t gotten the jab at this point, are the silent majority who still bravely resist and survive, and who will lead us all into a better future. God Bless.
1000 👍 upvotes, Alphamail.
Spot on- the government was pushing too hard and all of the little stories just didn’t add up. I’m related to folks that had sheep killed by nerve gas in Utah and work with a downwinder so I have not trusted the government since about 8 years old; they have earned the distrust.
One word: mRNA
Back in Jan 2020 when I heard these were going to be mRNA “vaccines” I decided there would be no way I, nor my family, would take them.
I have a cell molecular biology degree and I worked in Big Pharma research for about 10 years. So I recognize that I have a deeper understanding of molecular biology than many people, but c’mon people! It’s mRNA!! Biology teachers around the world should feel ashamed for how many people didn’t question the implications of injecting all of humanity with viral genetic code!
I actually have three more words that gave me pause: Operation Warp Speed
Trump is many things, but one thing he is not is complicated. Listen to what he says and don’t over interpret his words beyond face value.
People are very upset that he pushed the vax so hard. But you have to see the rollout of this vax within the greater picture:
Whenever a vaccine junkie tries to debunk the claims of the vax hesitant they always resort to the claim that the vaccines have been thoroughly tested. They also claim that they must be safe because they have been used for years, often decades.
So when I heard about this new technology that injects viral dna into human I was skeptical. But when Trump said he was rushing it through the approval process in record time and called the project “Operation WARP SPEED” my spidy senses started tingling.
A final note:
This paper (from 12/20 – and it’s still in “preprint” form… hmmmm… seems like they don’t want to give it full approval to validate their claims) from Harvard and & MIT researches explain how viral mRNA can reverse transcribe into human dna.
“In this study, we showed evidence that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome by several sources of reverse transcriptase”
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1.article-info
Excellent points. Fiddling at warp speed with cell biology that has evolved over tens of thousands of years is lunacy.
OK you turn on production of spike protein via mRNA. Not that that is a good idea, but did anyone give any thought on how to turn it off. Nope. And now studies are showing this tidal wave of spikes is overwhelming the immune system, saturating the heart, ovaries, etc
We have yet to see the final butcher’s bill for this snake oil science.
Equally late to the party; access to internet is hard for me.
I didn’t get the shot because at the same time that covid hit, I came down with triple-negative breast cancer, went through surgery and some hellacious chemo with almost lethal complications (and have a very good prognosis now, thank you Lord), and then came down with covid in November. (2020, the year of the letter C . . .). So I knew I had natural immunity and I delayed.
I began hearing about the animal studies with cats and ferrets where every animal died, and I was skeptical of that, but I kept reading and reading. I heard of Dr. Arne Burkhardt’s autopsy results through his interview with Dr. Bakhdi (sp?), spent 12 hours transcribing that interview, and decided to never get that shot. I saw what morticians were pulling out of bodies so they could get the embalming fluid in, which only began in 2021 and is now about 80% of their customers.
I learned (peer-reviewed paper which I read several times until I understood everything they had done) how the mRNA “vaccine” is taken into a cell, into the nucleus, and reverse transcribed back into the DNA of the cell within six hours of exposure to the mRNA. Humans do have an endogenous (naturally occurring) reverse transcriptase that writes RNA back into DNA, instead of the normal DNA into RNA so the cell can make proteins. People who have had that shot are truly genetically modified. Nobody knows where in the genome it is inserted, or if it is transcribed back into spike protein, or when that could happen. I suspect it’s random.
I learned how they made the mRNA so your body can’t break it down by replacing a lot (half? all? amount unknown) of the uridine (one of the four nucleotide bases that make up all RNA) with a naturally-occurring, very stable variant called pseudouridine, that is normally used by the body to make mRNA last a few hours or even a whole day instead of the normal 15 minutes, by replacing one, two, or a few uridines out of maybe thousands. So once you get the shot, you will make spike protein for a very long time. Pfizer and Moderna studied how long it would be made, for 60 days, and then, even though people were still making spike protein, they simply ended the study. Shoddy science. They should have kept going until everyone had stopped making it.
I learned how 75% of the mRNA gets into the lymphatic system, gets dumped into the circulatory system, which means that the linings of the blood vessels are busy making a compound that causes blood clots.
I learned how the T-cells of the immune system, which naturally destroy cells that are making bad things, learn to destroy the body’s own cells, because they are making spike protein – autoimmune disease, and Burkhardt found those T-cells attacking every tissue he looked at.
I learned how the B-cells of the immune system, that are responsible for making antibodies, get so tired of having to always respond to spike protein (since it is always being made) that they get exhausted and shut down – immunodeficiency disorder.
Recently I learned of the turbo cancers, especially in those who are in remission, and on my last visit to the local clinic (I’ve achieved the trifecta, of covid again in Oct, flu in Nov, and RSV in Dec) I had them put in my record to NEVER get any mRNA shot. I will never get a blood transfusion if I can help it.
My son, who got one Pfizer shot and has already gone two rounds with lung cancer from the burn pits of Afghanistan, was diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer right before Christmas, and severe radiation treatments are barely doing anything. Probably turbo cancer. My sister got two Moderna shots preparatory to looking for a job, now has neuropathy and generally doesn’t feel well. My daughter lives in Germany and I have not heard from her in 5 years (liberal college got to her) so I am certain she’s had the mRNA crap.
I am furious. Those **** are destroying my close remaining family. I will have to be hogtied with a pistol to my head to be given any of those shots. So I have not had the ” vaccine” and I will NEVER get it willingly.
Now I find out that BACON probably has mRNA in it – since 2016.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-in-livestock-and-companion
I don’t know how to make the link work. Copy and paste in your browser. I hope that nice crispy bacon has denatured the mRNA so it’s not active any more.
End of rant. It felt good, though; thank you.
I have said the same as you, they would have to tie me down to inject that biologic in me. Sorry for all you and your family are suffering. Wishing you some peace and rest.
Personally, All my life I have hated to be told what to do.
You will need an EXTREMELY convincing argument to get me to do anything that wasn’t my idea.
This was not about to change because the government was suddenly telling me to do it.
You made me laugh. My father was very strict and I consider it a blessing because I’m sure that is why I also hate to be told what to do. I need a reason to trust you…LOL…
I read. I study. I use my critical thinking skills.
While watching the “news” I ask myself “What agenda are we promoting today?” and “What situation in the world requires redirection/misdirection of my attention today?”
It is hurtfully apparent that one of my extended family members sustained childhood vax injury/chemical poisoning that has left her with lifelong issues. Proof enough for me that my extreme aversion to all government approved injections is well justified. I have not willingly taken any jabs as an adult. No flu, pneumonia, shingles, etc. My first (and last) unwilling participation was military forced swine flu vax.
At 70 years old I’m as pureblood as I can be (not counting childhood jabs inflicted with my unwitting parents’ approval.)
I trust my God’s designed immune system and watch my diet.
Self treated at home and survived the ‘Rona in May of ’20.
I have no time or patience for the govt. forced crap.
Family is another matter. About half of cousins, grands, DIL, etc. have bought into the lies. We still speak and socialize, but certain topics are forbidden in certain homes. Makes me very sad.
I believe I may have picked up a minor shedding related infection recently, but can’t prove a thing. I refuse to shove sodium azide in my nose just to satisfy my curiosity.
I would like to be able to plan more travel but I doubt that will happen now. The freaks will likely use all tools at their disposal to try to maintain forced compliance with their “mandates”. Do you know it is now very difficult to find the Black’s Law Dictionary definition of “mandate” online?
Compliance with a “mandate” is voluntary, by the way.
This whole situation sucks and I wish the deceived would wake up and see the truth yesterday.
The first reported case by msm was 01/20/20 in Washington state. During the early fall of 2019 people were presenting and overwhelming some medical centers with influenza like symptoms. They were testing negative for flu a/b. It was already here.
Travis, just hit on your post. I posted today regarding the fact that I came off a cruise ship in Seattle end of August 2019 and was in an Urgent Care 4 days later with all the symptoms of what we now know as Covid 19. Half of the population of that ship were Asians who flew into Seattle to pick up this Alaskan cruise. You are confirming what I have always believed.
We call that an Influenza-like Illness. The question is “what was/is it?” Though this topic is really about whether we got injected and why, related is whether there really is a “virus” that can cause “Covid” and whether we believe what’s injected is a “vaccine” or rather gene therapy.
The “divide” haunts me as the worst aspect of all the damage done to us by this attack.
One reason I honestly did NOT take the jab because the flu virus basically up and disappeared during the covid crisis. That alone told me something was not adding up. And like the author? I honestly have watched the corruption in our government the last 10-20 years while they used departments like the FBI and CIA and NSA and made them become weaponized and used against the more conservative side of the political spectrum and pretty much do not believe a word they say.
By balancing between intellect, ie thinking and feeling, for many years and especially trying to understand the unseen role of denial
It was a no brainer to not take the jab
The opening statement comes from discovering many years ago the stranglehold denied emotions have on everyone
As example of this in practice,,i was broke .so I expressed deep emotions about it,, and very quickly got a great job,,and continued my upward involvement by further expression,,
So the jab was an easy discernment
From that I gave up my 200k job,but within a year was offered a better job within the same covid mandated industry
The caveat here is the extreme emotional expression propelled me into a higher consciousness
So no hesitation in my decision to no vax
I simply sent my feelings in to feel,, then allowed my intellect to decide
As soon as I heard the vax was made and or tested with fetal cells, it was off the radar. That is plain and simple cannibalism of the 21st century. Just think this through.
Common Sense. I never took the experimental toxic jab and never will. Did not wear the face diaper either.
I am old enough to have been raised on a farm to have common sense. I learned to listen then decide for myself if it was true. I was never an addict of mass media “news”. And completely stopped watching it 5-10 years back. I rarely took the flu shot. I rarely got sick. I rely more on good nutrition and active life than on pills. I am sorry to say my brother did not. He died after his third jab.
When the hysteria started I did as much research as I could. After reading the Dr Zelenko protocol I did order Quercetin and zinc then in 22 I ordered Ivermectin from India. Good thing I did, my neighbor told me I saved her life by sharing it with her.
Now there seems to be daily articles about the lies told about the toxic jab and other medical fraud. I am now more convinced than ever it is a control plot by the ones that make money because they own and control the governments and big business.
So did one of my brothers, John. Of course, we could never “prove” the jab caused his death, but about 3-4 weeks after the third injection he began a downward health spiral with complaints and problems he had never before experienced, 8 weeks later the speed of the downward spiral increased and affected multiple organ-systems, and ±9 weeks after his booster he was dead. An autopsy was requested and performed, the report of which I read, and it was the most half-assed attempt at autopsy, as reported, that I have ever read – back in the day when all medical students were exposed to doing autopsies, I would have been failed for performing and reporting an autopsy like the “forensic pathologist” performed and reported.
The shame was that the brother who died refused to listen to me or my other brother, both of whom remain (1) unvaccinated and (2) healthy so far despite our age related normal problems.
I did not take the “jab” because I researched it and knew it was fraud. I was not afraid of the flu. Also, I saw all of the advertisement on TV was paid for by pharmaceutical companies so I did not trust ANYTHING TV said.
In general, as I am healthy (thank God), I stay away from the medical profession. I believe we need to be very conservative in any treatment we take and should always try natural first.
I have given my cats, dogs and horses Ivermectin for years and have a supply. So I trusted in case of an emergency, we had solutions.
Thank God, I was able to convince my kids not to take it. We all got Covid and got over it in a matter of days. Our natural immunity is perfect.
I am Catholic and would not inject dead babies DNA into my system. It is sinful. I would rather be dead then support abortion… For in the next life we would be dead forever.
Many others who took the jab are now sick. It breaks my heart.
I’m an engineer (software) who has spent roughly half of a thirty-plus year career working in teams developing medical diagnostic products, so I am very familiar with the regulatory requirements associated with bringing any medical product to market – and they are no more stringent than they are with ingestibles, implantables and injectables. I know from experience (though it can be known by simple logic) that there is no way to time-compress testing for long-term safety and efficacy.
So I had an informed, intuitive understanding of just how many corners had to be cut to bring an injectable to market in less than a year. My initial position was to wait a year after the rollout and see how the volunteer test subjects were doing by then.
I’m also a contrarian, and the over-the-top effort to push the vaccines to the exclusion of any other option was a huge red flag. Where was the ‘Operation Warp Speed’ for therapeutics? Why wasn’t there one? Worse, why was every effort by well-credentialed physicians and scientists in that area viciously censored and suppressed? Why was the messaging universal across all large-scale media and in every nation around the world – and why was it so blatantly ludicrous?
Why, for example, was the media lock-step in adopting the derisive term “so-called natural immunity” during the debate about whether the COVID-recovered still needed to vaccinate? Suddenly it was reasonable to question whether natural immunity was a thing? Seriously? Um… vaccines only work because natural immunity is a thing, because their mechanism of action is to stimulate a natural immune response, like the pathogen would, only without causing disease. Vaccines use and rely on natural immunity to do what they do.
That the entire media establishment would simultaneously adopt a position so illogical and unscientific told me there was an agenda and that they were controlled – or else they were far too stupid for me to give them credence on anything else they said. Either way, I was done with them, and definitely done with the vaccines.
Well said. I found the whole notion of the MSM using the phrase, “ so called natural immunity” so irritating. Listening to no nothings preach to the rest of us, including wishing death on non vaxed should be cause for firing
Thank you, Sundance, for asking, and now bumping.
I have read each response to your question.
I did not take the vaccine, my reasons are the same as many here.
So many in my family did, all I can do is pray for them.
I have a daughter that had thyroid cancer, six years ago, was getting along fine, took the jabs and every booster after.
Sadly, the cancer is back.
So sorry to hear that. I pray for all who took the jab. My mom took the jab at age 87. She has congestive heart failure and soon after the 2nd jab, they found she has an enlarged heart. Also, she had serious carpal tunnel about 45 years ago and it suddenly returned with a vengeance . My brother’s arthritis became much worse after the jabs…I don’t think he sees the correlation . My mom has seen the light finally and refused the booster. Thank God.
I cannot bear to listen to any more conspiracy theorists. I served in the White House under President Reagan and then in two Bush administrations. The truth is, the vaccine was a best guess effort in trying to halt death by virus. If anyone is to blame for anything, it is the stupidity of the Biden admin for mandates and pharmaceutical lobbyists who made a fortune off of all of us. People should be able to chose for themselves, not forced to do anything they dont want to. Its our money, we are paying these people to treat us like sheep.
You of all people should understand that
Conspiracy “theories” arise
when the government lies.
Look, I made a little poem.
People were asked a question and chose to respond truthfully. Wherever you are and listening to conspiracy theorists, simply turn it off. Its NOT a conspiracy theory to express one’s experiences in life that led to a decision to decline this injection, in an attempt to answer the question Sundance has asked. What you posted answers this question though…..what made you take the Covid -19 injection?
Still waiting for your response to the question, Mr. anti-conspiracy theorist.
I would suspect that you had the vaccine, so why are you posting in a forum where the question is, “so you did not get the COVID-19 shot, why not?
I would suggest that you’re full of yourself. You’re another John Kerry, so much more evolved than we knuckle draggers are.
Spotted the fraud very early. First, when Northern Italy was the first western hotspot, found a report that the average age of those dying was 85. Found a Rudy Giuliani interview of Zev Zelensky in which he described using hydroxychloroquine, zinc and an antibiotic in successful, inexpensive treatments. Saw Neil Cavuto flip out, among many others. Watched Fauci claim how deadly Covid was, then say we had to wait for a vaccine. Then Ivermectin was declared unsafe of its manufacturer after 40 years of use … to clear the way for an Emergency Use Authorization. The coordinated fraud already obvious to me.
Did searches and comment mining (TM) to find out what the spike protein was. Found logical explanations showing it was almost certainly man made. And highly toxic. Found out the vaccine was going to make cells make spike by delivering mRNA to the cells. But mRNA is fragile so they would reinforce it with psuedo-uridine. And supercharge it with codon substitutions (different approaches from Moderna and Phizer). Hmmm, how long would they stay productive in cells? And the mRNA would be encapsulated with lipid nanoparticles. What are they? Where do they go?
The answers were strident and without qualification, the signs of a lie. Stays in the arm, goes away quick, don’t ask questions. A fraud promoted.
I could go on about how I reinforced my understanding these injections were dangerous for all, and absolutely unnecessary for me, but my decision had already been determined. People that stood to gain financially were willing to say anything to get you to take the “vax”. Read the science as best you can, but also follow the money. And learn to spot liars. They have tells. In the face of uncertainty, I taught myself what I needed to know. I guess if you can’t do that …
As a middle school teacher of 33 years Covid didn’t look any different than the regular respiratory viruses that burned through schools every year. When I saw how different this shot was I thought it wise to wait. Most of my family felt the same way. In the spring of 2021 my son-in- law, a healthy man of 49, got the first Pfizer shot. He got it because he worked in a medical setting and thought it the right thing to do. A little over a week after receiving the shot he died in his sleep of a “sudden cardiac event”
I was as concerned as everyone else at the beginning. When the “vaccine” came out I said two things: 1) I have no comorbidities and 2) Ask me in five years (after real world testing). It took much less time to decide that I would never put that in my veins. I did not try to talk anyone out of it as at my age I know a fair number of cancer survivors, etc. I did try to make my two points though if I thought it possible. As time has gone on and evidence against accumulates, while I don’t get up in anyone’s face about it (unless they’re in mine!), I will mention said evidence to the unaware when I think they will listen.
I asked my self the simple question; what happens if I get injured in some fashion? Who pays? Who assumes the risk? When I researched and found the answer to be 100% me. I accept all of the risk. That is when I decided against taking that experimental drug even though my employer required it and charged me a fee to remain unvaccinated…
My initial reason for not taking the jab was because I had a BAD reaction from a flu shot when I was 12 years old. I was hospitalised for 29 days and had to have physical therapy to regain the use of my arm. I was cautious for good reason. Before the COVId “vaccine” came out, I was reading everything I could find about the virus. I didn’t know if I could trust the WHO, so I researched what their opinion is on global warming…I saw that they are all in and I knew right then I couldn’t trust them. I only wore a mask in order to get a hair cut and could barely stand it. I was the only one without a mask almost everywhere I went. When they were saying it was okay to take off your mask while eating, I knew it was all BS. I watched the way people wore and handled their masks and new that if anything, mask wearing made all of us LESS safe. I was disgusted to see common sense go out the window. As far as the, so called, vaccine goes. IMO any vaccine that hit the market without being fully tested was not to be trusted. I saw a blog of women who had been adversely affected almost immediately after taking the jab. In this particular blog, women were writing about their mensuration cycles. I was almost shocked at what I was reading and knew right then that I was right to not take the jab. I suspected, after reading that blog that young women were going to have trouble getting pregnant. As it turned out, it was even worse than that. I could go on and on but I’m sure you get the point. In June of 22, I drove 12 hours to attend my granddaughters (outdoor) graduation in Indiana (a free state?) I found out the day of graduation, while I was on my way there with family, that they required masks. It was 85 degrees and humid. I ended up not going in. I drove back to my mom’s and have not heard from my granddaughter since that day. She knew I refused to wear a mask all through COVID and should have given me a heads up. My relationship with my daughter(who is a nurse) and my 2 granddaughters is almost non existent. It breaks my heart that my daughter is one of the sheep who went along with the madness. I seriously thought she had more common sense. I do think though, that going through the virus in the early stages, before we KNEW about Ivermectin and HCQ was a big part of her decision making. She was on the frontline and saw a lot of death. I have no idea how she feels about all of this today because we don’t communicate much. Many of my family members took the jab and I pray for them everyday. What really bothers me the most is how the media failed us. They did no research and hid the truth. I will never trust them or any government agency ever again.
Pharmacist here. No, I did not and will not take this vaccine. The mental and emotional coercion from media, the government, big pharma, and the rest of the medical community has been relentless and at times almost convincing. Glad I didn’t cave to the pressure. Of the people I work with, who I know received the vaxx several have had adverse events afterward. I know correlation doesn’t equal causation, but there is a lot of correlating: e.g. among those I work with: miscarriage at 8 weeks; another has had vomiting and nausea for unknown reasons with a 40 pound weight loss; another developed a severe sinus infection that went away, but she then developed severe vertigo that hasn’t gone away; another’s 12 year old son had his 2nd Vax and ended up in the ER with peri or myocarditis. These are just the ones I know about
I don’t take flu shots. I’ve never had a positive experience from a prodecure or treatment that began as a doctor’s recommendation. Read that carefully to interpret correctly. By March of 2020 the information on Wuhan flu was sufficient to convince me it was just that years’ strain and though more lethal to those who contracted it with comorbididtes not more lethal to the rest of the population. Lastly, I probably had it twice so I was satisfied that I probably had natural immunity.
My wife and I did not get the jab because we thought the COVID 19 story to be too suspicious to trust. I worked at Dugway Proving Grounds as biological/chemical warfare specialist so I understood from the start that masking was not a reasonable or scientific response. But it was the lack of deaths among the homeless populations in the big west coast cities that confirmed our COVID 19 response was an information warfare operation not a medical emergency. If we had true airborne virus threat as deadly as COVID was supposed to be the number one public health problem would have been the disposal of the massive numbers of dead people. When the homeless flourish instead of perish in the face of a “pandemic”you know you are being sold is a bill of goods by an inept and politicized bureaucracy.
Worked as RN for 43 years. After the mandatory shots came out I saw huge increase in stroke victims ..some very young..in our neuro I CU and we had increase in patients with clots in legs and arms. I retired early due to hospital mandating these shots. I am so saddened to see corporations dictating physician decisions and even more saddened to see physicians complying.
I took the jab before Trump left office and had no ill effects, but got COVID a few months later. Having COVID was no big deal and I come to realize it was all hype. I fought the wearing of masks and had several confrontations with businesses, at church, medical offices, etc. I even had the police called on me for refusing to wear a mask. After two years I still see people at church and other places wearing a mask and even driving alone in their vehicles. Of course, this is California where the dumb and stupid come to stay.
I did not take the so called vaccine because I did not believe the propaganda of everyone dying of covid .
Where were the bodies? Why no autopsies? Also it seemed off that children with their undeveloped immune system were largely unaffected. So I started to research and found that the person who invented the PCR test said that it was never intended to be used a a diagnostic test. Yet this became the gold standard.
Then the masking started , which was laughable , as if a mask was going to block a virus .
Then I read about Fauci and his experiments with AZT on children and pregnant women.
Then I realized that bill gates was behind all this manipulation.
I do not trust our government, or our medical community who pushed this poison . I will never get any state sponsored shot.
My husband and I are both retired from a large university in Alabama (UAB). He had spent a 43 year career in medical research, I retired from a health sciences museum/library. When covid began, I began to learn about natural means of staying healthy (vitamins, essential oils, herbals, sunshine, fresh air, etc.) and his brother, a medical doctor, prescribed us hydroxycholorquine before he was prevented. My husband began doing his own research on the clot shot when it first came out and we were appalled at what he learned. We refuse to get the jab, and I resist wearing a mask, even when thrown out of places because of my refusal.
We had a pretty severe case of covid in August of 2021 and a much lighter case in December 2022. We are Christians, so we are trusting God who has all things in His control and who cares for each detail of our lives. He has brought us through covid twice (the second time it was a blessing, long story) and has gifted us with natural immunity for which we are grateful. We had dear family members die, both of covid and with covid (the second due, we believe, to draconian lockdown policies governing nursing homes) whom we miss every day.
Early on in the plandemic, we recognized that we were being told lies on a daily basis by our government, and we continue to reject both the clot shot and the lies surrounding it. My personal trust in doctors and the medical community has been seriously eroded to where I reject all vaccines because I can’t trust in what they say they are giving me. So that’s my story.
My reason for not taking the vaccine was a genuine concern that it was a continuation of the carefully crafted plan that began with the manufacture and intentional release of the virus, the obvious successful attempts to ensure widespread infection through government directed actions, and the over attribution of covid as a cause of death (in my opinion to scare the hell out of everyone). My question was, to what end?.
Our government currently does not perform any function for the benefit of the American people. Since Obama’s election, American federal government agencies have been weaponized against the citizens. From IRS, DOJ, ATF, CIA, FBI, NIH; someone pulling strings have used these agencies to destroy the freedoms and prosperity of the American people. Those facts coupled with the orchestrated push by our government, Hollywood, and the media to compel compliance gave me grave concerns. Those concerns were not about the lack of unknown side effects, but concerns of the intended consequences.
Call me a conspiracy theorist., but I believe our government is a greater threat to our life than covid.
Prior to Med school I got a masters degree in immunology and biochemistry. Ignoring basic scientific concepts like natural immunity as well as fiddling with evolved cellular functions like messenger RNA was going to be a disaster.
Further the lack of proper vetting of the vaxx w/o clinical trials is absurd. The reporting system VAERs was known to be inadequate to say the least.
Taking the vaxx is like a good game of Russian roulette.
My husband and I refused to be subjected to a shot that had not been tested. We are not human Guinea pigs. My best friend was forced to get the jab in order to keep her job. Two months later she was dead from a sudden and unexplained blood disease that caused massive organ failure. She was a perfectly healthy 47 year old woman. We will NEVER consent to being injected with that poison.
I think a healthy distrust of government played a big role in my decision. Operation Warp Speed “sounds” good in the ears, bringing back as it does, memories of Star Trek and their enlightened, always positive outlook on life, but then I pivot to examine the DMV and recoil from those same people pushing a “vaccine” on me that was developed with so little time for testing. Of course, as we now know, there was even less testing than we thought.
Additionally, it was the flu, not the Bubonic Plague, or Captain Trips, for those of you who like Stephen King. I’ve lived through (at the time) 63 years of flu seasons without getting vaccinated and without ever once getting the flu, or getting it so lightly I didn’t notice it, so why bother? Then, the more they pushed it, the harder I pushed back. I even went so far as to make fun of a police officer one time, telling him his mask made him look like a bank robber.
Bottom line: let me live my life and I’ll let you live yours.
A lot of people who got the “vaccine” have developed side effects, from local reaction to peri- and myo- carditis to a sudden precipitous decrease in body temperature and mobility.
And then there are a lot more people who claim to have received the vaccine and have had no symptoms (other than, perhaps, catching a dose of the ‘Rona themselves). Inquiring minds want to know – I want to know – how many of those who claim symptom-free partial or complete vaccination and boostering are carrying high-quality monkey paper as their proof, and haven’t been anywhere near a needle?
P Davis
I have taken the flu vaccine for many years and of course childhood vaccines, but none of the vaccines I previously took were labeled “experimental “ that I am aware of. The government was so pushy, that my radar went into overdrive. Um🤔 I thought. I think I will take the wait and see approach. Offering people money, lottery tickets, doughnuts, etc. I smelled a rat and I was right. I have had many friends that took the Covid vaccine and we’re injured or died. Vaccinated people all around me have had Covid multiple times and I (thank the Good Lord) have not had it so far.
My wife and I refused to take the vaccine, and for the most part refused to wear masks.
The reason was simple: when the media, politicians, Hollywood, big business and the government ALL agree to coerce the public, we knew something devious was going on.
We don’t trust ANY of them.
Did not trust the narrative & official story from the beginning. We read & research. My husband & I said no thanks in spite of most ofour family taking it. In hindsight we truly made the right decision. Everything coming out since has solidified that decision 100%!
As a computer scientist, I felt the rushed, experimental mRNA vaccine, best case, would be like Windows 3.1, unreliable and buggy.
After reading mRNA pioneers like Malone describing the folly of instructing the body to produce toxic spike proteins, it became clear the virus hype was only a cynical marketing campaign, dependent on hiding information, not bringing it forward —the opposite of the scientific method.
Originally I was intending to get the vaccination when it came out, and then I got covid in December of 2020. Even though I’m in my 60s I didn’t get all that sick, and after I recovered and an antibody test confirmed that I did have covid (I wasn’t sure I’d actually had covid which is why I got the antibody test as I was expecting that if I contracted covid I’d be deathly ill based on the hysteria in the MSM), I began to have second thoughts about the vaccination. Now that I had antibodies I felt I had time to wait and see what happened with the vaccinations that started rolling out in early 2021.
My skepticism steadily increased as government began discounting the value of immunity from prior infection which made no sense to me, and then the coercion began. It was the unreasoning absolute coercion that every person, regardless of age, including children who rarely became ill let alone severely ill, medical conditions which make vaccination potentially dangerous (e.g. Guillain-Barre, MS, etc.) , or prior infection status, be vaccinated or else lose their freedom to work and freedom of movement, which convinced me that this vaccination campaign wasn’t about public health, but about something else, and that whatever that something else was I wanted no part of it. Additionally, by that point reports starting surfacing about adverse reactions and physicians being censored or losing their licenses for expressing any concerns about the vaccine. That was when I knew for sure that I’d made the right decision by refusing to be vaccinated. Then a year or so later the CEO of Pfizer admitted that the vaccine hadn’t even been tested to see if it prevented transmission, which was supposedly the whole predicate of forced vaccination in the first place.
To this day I don’t know what is behind the blind, unreasoning push to force every human being possible to accept the injection no matter what the side effects and no matter what their personal medical risk profile might be. Perhaps its as simple as money in that big pharma has politicians in their back pockets, and since they have absolute immunity from lawsuits no matter what happens to people who receive the injections, they simply want to maximize profits by selling as many injections as possible. Other possible reasons are even more sinister, such as attempting to shrink the pool of the unvaccinated to the point where there aren’t enough of them to make a statistically valid comparison against the vaccinated in the event that the injections have long term negative side effects, which without a pool of unvaccinated to compare against could be simply blamed on the virus itself.
Another casualty of this whole episode is my faith and trust in anything the CDC, FDA, or any other alphabet agency put out concerning public health. From this point on I am assuming that anything they utter has a self serving purpose, and that unless I have demonstrable evidence to the contrary, I should do exactly the opposite of what they are suggesting.
Even my faith in physicians has been damaged because this episode demonstrated that physicians are under the thumbs of government and can be coerced into either giving bad advice to their patients or withholding important information from them, if they feel that their license to practice medicine might be at risk for doing so. I supposed it’s hard to blame them as their licence to practice medicine is likely the most valuable thing that 99% of them possess in this world, having incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and a dozen years of their lives to obtain. Unfortunately that also means that they can be easily controlled by anyone with the power to take that away from them if they do not follow orders, something I will now keep in mind each time my doctor gives me advice on something.
Long time reader, first comment in years however I felt I needed to express my reason why I didn’t take the C-19 shot.
Over the covid years I got much pressure to get it, my wife caved for her reasons, but mine were based in common sense and critical thinking. If you all remember, very early on PDJT was mentioning that HCQ was showing promise. He got demonized. We were told it could kill you; it’s dangerous to take, bla, bla, bla…
That was the tell for me, you see at that time I have been a HCQ user for 20 years for rheumatoid arthritis. And there I was still alive and kicking. The BS continued with the constant changing mask mandates, the selective shutdowns, etc.
I can deal with the morons, doctors, nurses, wokeys, because all of them couldn’t answer my simple question; if HCQ shows promise and this c-19 is so deadly why deny anyone the right to at least try it! The same goes for Ivermectin.
I did not and will never get the mRNA jab because nothing added up, everything “smelled bad”, and there was NO WAY the long-term effects of this “vaccine” could be judged. I repeated this to my ~90-year-old parents, both of them had been (in my opinion) fear-porned into the vaccination. I told my parents that honestly, “long-term” effects were really not a concern to them given their age and in particular my father’s health condition. If it made sense to them, then so be it, but I did tell them my concerns. The use of EULA and squashing of any off-label use of medicines for which there was no longer a big profit margin was VERY suspicious. If any of these medicines worked, well the EULA could no longer be used as the push to vaccinate everyone, and people would lose a LOT of money. Always follow the money… and the control… Nope – not convincing to me, and then we started seeing the myocarditis in the young, blood clots, OTHER countries halting vaccinations, etc. The dismissal of natural immunity… Really? WHY? Nope- not a good thing, these vaccinations. I had COVID in 2022 (finally!! regardless of my not masking and interacting with people, I did not catch the stuff until last year) and for me it was not AS BAD as the seasonal flu. It’s different for everyone (just like the seasonal flu is), but I had read enough and could obtain the treatment medicines (so far my state is still relatively “free”) so I had long ago decided to contract the bug, overcome it, and be done with it. Can you get it again (or a variant)? Of course, just like any coronavirus – but natural immunity gives one another leg up on it.
I actually think i had Covid 19 in early 9/2019. Went on a cruise to Alaska 8/17/19, on a ship that had 5000 people on board, 1/2 who had flown in from Asia to Seattle to pick up the cruise. 4-5 people where removed from the ship throughout the cruise. Coast Guard had to asst as well as unscheduled docking to remove passenger. Crew answered when asked, “is this common”? “No, never seen anything like this”. Within hours of disembarking ship, I started to feel “fluey”. Cold symptoms as well as headache cough. We were driving home from Seattle to SW Colorado. Over the course of 4 days my symptoms become much worse…..cough and outrageous chest congestion, I could barely talk. Also woke up with severe conjunctivitis on day 4. Went to Urgent Care at local hospital at 8am and thankfully was the only pt, so seen immediately. Diagnosed with Mycoplasma Pneumonia, Conjunctivitis, obviously, and sent home with Z-pac, Tesellon Pearles, and Tobrimycin eye drops. I don’t ever remember being so sick. Took two weeks to feel half way decent again. I am a nurse and worked in pediatrics for 25 years….there is no communicable disease that Ihave not had exposure to. Rarely even had a cold, ever. When Covid became a thing in March 2020, more and more symptoms would be announced, Conjunctivitis being one that they wanted everyone to be aware of. They were describing me. I have followed everything Covid very closely since it became known and I learned that they traced cases as far back as early October of 2019. I do however feel that I contracted it on that ship, so i had it in September 2019. So since I have always been taught that the best protection against a disease is to have the disease itself, I would not get the vaccine. I have always been a proponent of vaccines, gave hundreds if not thousands in my 45 yr career, but I would never take an experimental vaccine. I was shocked by the pressure people were under to take this injection without question, and they went along with it. I was even more shocked by the behavior of the medical profession. Have I lost faith in the profession I worked in for so long? Absolutely. These past almost 3 years, i have followed Drs Pierre Kory and Peter McCollough. They are the caliber of Drs I worked with and learned from in me younger days as a nurse. That time in nursing served me well.
My critical thinking pointed out numerous data points/red flags all through out the process. The biggest ones were: 1) the almost insane refusal to deny Natural Immunity or Acquired Immunity from already having Covid – this is 100% contrary to accepted medical science 2) The Pandemic is such an emergency that the Federal Governement is going to open up the border and aid and abet the invasion of our country from the 3rd worls with no concern for Covid ? This is still going on today and makes 0 sense. Illegals coming over a southern border need no vaccination but citizens and foreign legal air passengers do ? and 3) censorship of highly credentialed doctors who spoke against lockdowns and advocating early treatment with available over the counter drugs 4) the soul crushing lockdowns of small business while big business remained open. All this happeing while the media saying ” we are all in this together” while no public employee or policitian lost their job. 5) People told to stay inside and shelter in place wtih outdoor public parks and beaches closed. This is 100% opposite of what should have been recommended – get outside in the fresh air and sunshine ! and 6) People were told to get the vax to not kill grandma – basically told to get vaccinated for someone else. People never did this before – no one ever went to go get a flu shot for another person. I could keep going but this was easy for me – total fraud and easy to see if you do some critical thinking but admittedly hard to accept our Government and Media could be complicit in a crime against humanity as I see it
I am naturally skeptical of mainstream medicine for many reasons, from many episodes of experience, coupled with my own education, training and experience as a health care provider, and in health care IT. IOW, I’ve seen some things.
So, when Covid appeared, and the Gov’t and Public Health were saying one thing, then contradicting themselves the next day or week, I was primed to be suspicious of everything. With Fauci at the helm of it all, having been around in the AIDS/AZT days, seeing what gay men suffered through then, I was even more reticent to just go along with what we were officially told. Then the data and statistics kept showing they were flat-out, bald-faced lying about so much, and I was done with it all.
Specifically to the vax – due to age and BMI, I am in a moderate to high-moderate risk category for severe Covid. I weighed those risks against the very much unknown risks of the jabs, and decided at the least, not now. I would reassess at age 60, 65, 70, etc. In the two years since, I have become even less amenable to taking the jab due to the reports of adverse effects. This remains true even after having a severe case of Covid that hospitalized me for two weeks. I have no regrets.
I’ve written this several times in various forums. I think Igor Chudov on his Substack page asked this question recently. No I did not get jabbed. The reason simply is that there was at a minimum, a pregnancy worth of time from impending hysteria/lockdown until the non-vax was rolled out to figure out that there was a scam afoot. Nothing added up. None of the “facts” presented held up to either common sense, history, or the medical literature. On top of the unused ships on both coasts, unused medical tents and films of empty hospitals, there were the tens of thousands of ventilators unused. So how in creation could anyone trust that a “vaccine” could supposedly be developed in the time frame given? Sorry, I’m not gullible or afraid of my shadow.
I’m late, but I’ll still give you my answer.
Very early in the pandemic, Fauci told everyone not to wear masks. Now, I lived in the Bay at the time and people were freaking out about things, so I checked the data about masks and it wasn’t very good. Fine, trust the doctor. No mask. Less than 2 weeks later, Fauci told everyone that masks were critical and that he had said they weren’t because he wanted to keep PPE equipment for medical personnel. And that’s when I assumed everything out of his mouth was a shameless lie.
My experience is that people who lie to you for your own good (as opposed to their own good) will ALWAYS lie to you because they’re so sure they’re doing the right thing. In fact, they’re so convinced of their righteousness that they’ll often try and force you into doing things you don’t want to do. The most popular option is manipulation and that’s why lying to people is for their own good. I will not take advice from a man who is likely so sure of himself he would rather ignore the fact I’m a person who has both the legal right and moral responsibility to make her own choices than he would be willing to actually try and convince me of something.
Besides, I’m young (enough), healthy (enough), and confident I can get through a bout of flu. Plus, it had been a year of everyone claiming it was the end of health as we knew it and that was clearly not true. Eventually, I just got stubborn. It seems I don’t respond well to people yelling at me in public.
And, yes, that is a throwaway email because I have a policy against commenting on the internet, but you still deserve an answer.
Unvaxx’d and medically tyranny and intrusive surveillance
The federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS) announced a new code (International Classification of Disease (ICD) system) that anyone who is awake and aware of the growing medical tyranny should be concerned about. After some delays, the new code was rolled out in October 2022 and just went “live” in nearly every medical clinic and hospital in January 2023.
these numeric codes were created for almost any diagnosis you can think of, and some you would never think of (Search “crazy ICD-10 codes” and you will see some samples of what I’m talking about).
So what is this new code? Code Number Z28.310. This is the code for a very peculiar “diagnosis” since it’s not a diagnosis at all, but an invasion of privacy and likely to be used against many people in the future. This is the code your doctor is being paid to monitor and log into the government surveillance computer system that is accessed by government and private health insurers informing them of your Covid vaccine status. This information, if you let your doctor know you aren’t COVID19 vaxx’d, but have a forged card to get into restaurants, go to school or for employment purposes, could create a situation that you become investigated.
If these diagnostics aren’t entered properly, a doctor may not get reimbursed. Now that this new code is officially being required by government and private insurance providers, doctors will likely now be “incentivized” to ask about your vax status, which is typically what is done. That means they get financial payouts whenever the government decides there’s a “meaningful use” for this data.
This system appears to be the way the military-industrial-biomedical complex to identify and separate out those who have submitted to their digital identification system, which starts with being “up to date” on your shots — endless shots.
This Z28.3 is the “basic” diagnostic code for being under-vaccinated generally, but it gets more specific from there. They also created the specific only for Covid they added the 1 after the 3 (Z28.31), so Covid is the only vaccine they’re specific for. Then they added a second digit if you’re partially vaccinated and didn’t get any of the boosters.
https://www.hnl.com/healthcare-professionals/covid-19-icd-10-coding-and-insurance-reporting-gui#:~:text=Z28.,after%20April%201%2C%202022.)
https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/Z00-Z99/Z20-Z29/Z28-/Z28.310
https://www.aafp.org/pubs/fpm/blogs/gettingpaid/entry/covid_immunization_codes.html
https://www.findacode.com/icd-10-cm/icd-10-cm-diagnosis-codes-Z28-group.html
Now this can also result of doctors repeatedly recommend you should have the vaxx, but refuse they may start also diagnosing you as “mentally ill”, and you might start finding systemic abuses by doctors. if you continually refuse your doctor-recommended vaccines? Could you end up being diagnosed with a mental illness? Then you could find yourself losing lots of additional “Constitutional rights”, for being ODD [oppositional defiant disorder, in adult]
https://www.additudemag.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-in-adults/
At the G20 Summit held a couple of months ago in Indonesia in November 2022, the leaders of the world’s 20 largest economies issued a joint statement that called on the nations of the world to implement a global digital vaccine passport system, based on standards set by the WHO, which would force international travelers to have a digital vaccine passport ID on their mobile phone. Without it, you would not be “allowed” to travel outside your home country, unless of course you’re an illegal migrant trying to get to the U.S. or Europe from an “undeveloped” or “under developed” country.
We also know, from a Forbes magazine article published in February 2022, that nearly half of the states in America had already at that point signed the contracts and laid the infrastructure to implement digital vaccine passports, so this same system could eventually be used to control, or at least monitor, the travel of Americans outside of their states.
World Economic Forum’s push toward Smart Cities, recently rebranded as “15-Minute Cities,” which would monitor and restrict travel outside of one’s city. Are you following me here? A digital system is being put in place that would have the capability of essentially locking down entire populations at any given time. All that would be needed is a declaration of a “public health emergency of international concern,” or of “regional concern” and the U.S and E.U. are trying their hardest to turn that authority over to the WHO in the form of a new pandemic treaty.
If you’re not familiar with the “15 minute city”, this was in the news recently…UK’s “new” taxes and permission requirements to travel outside of your local “zone”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11352725/Controversial-plans-stop-cars-travelling-neighbourhoods-Canterbury-press-ahead.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/10/canterbury-council-traffic-zone-system-kent-backlash/#:~:text=The%20council%20has%20said%20that,vehicle%20gridlock%20and%20carbon%20emissions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-63262169
That coding and intrusion to American health care was hinted at with the “agreement” proposed by Mexico, Canada and The US of A during Bribem’s trip to Mexico.
These people are ‘too much’.
WEF needs to remember the lessons learned from Yamamoto….the global slow march to world tyranny is getting stronger because America, the last bastion of Freedom, does not have a true leader bu rather a grifting greedy self serving individual ensconced at 1600….
The beauty of the plandemic is that students in all walks of health care, business and business/corporate law, will be dissecting this fluster cluck, for decades.
Thank you for that very informative post!
We need to constantly remind ourselves that this was and still is, a Fear & Control campaign against humanity.
Daimon,
The plans they are making for us fit hand in glove with defunding law enforcement, paying mercenaries to destroy neighborhoods & creat chaos, installing radical DAs & judges and protecting a horrible public education system. When lawlessness abounds people will be fearful they will run to their perceived rescuers with open arms. All discernment gone, they will accept any promise of protection & willingly give up their freedoms. Much like the crazy woman Tucker spoke of who turned her daughters over to the CCP, an evil bunch if there ever was one.
I did not take the vaccine because I was taught to be discerning by the church & my Mom, a solid Christian & a conservative.
I was 5 when JFK was murdered, followed a few short years later by MLK then Robert. I watched Nixon leave the White House at 16. I knew even at that age America’s core was getting weaker and we were being lulled & distracted by the government puppeteers. I remember listening to conservative talk radio in line to pick up my kindergartner many years later. The voices spoke the truth, pointing out the lawlessness & admonishing us to pay attention. They warned us of the days ahead, the days we are now living out. I just never thought they would come to pass so soon or the evil would escalate so quickly.
Sundance is correct, discernment is key & I would add to that, perseverance.
since Adam & Eve the battle has always been against evil. Ephesians 6:10-18 tells us what we are up against in this present age & gives us the tools and encouragement to not only discern the times but also to persevere in our faith.
The battles loom large but the war was won at the Cross.
When we appreciate & recognize the truth in God’s Word we can & do overcome fear. Our God is not the God of fear, rather the God of truth & love.
John 8:31-32 speaks of the true freedom found only in Christ. Everyone of us has a choice to accept or reject that freedom.
God Bless The Treepers.
I have not trusted CDC since 1980’s with childhood SIDS deaths from vaccines. It was easy to say NO
I spent 29 years as an RN. The last 5 years or so brought about a strange transformation in the hospital that I worked at. The bottom line became the number one focus where it didn’t seem to be the case before. First a bachelor degree became mandatory in my position. I complied. Then the flu shot became mandatory. I complied again. When this new, untested gene therapy without any long term studies became mandatory, I decided to retire early instead of giving in to the mandate. I watched as my formerly respected industry whored itself out for money from the pharmaceutical industry and the government. Many people had no choice but to work, so they submitted to the shot. I pray for them that the poison won’t have the same effect on them as it has so many who have died or suffered long term consequences. I thank God that I was in a position to leave and not comply to this planned and insidious therapy masquerading as a therapeutic. I will never again take any form of vaccine or trust health care. Satan is indeed working overtime.
45 years as an RN/BSN in critical care. I saw the same….and the newer generation of nurses, for the most part, seem to be lacking in terms of critical thinking. Life’s evens did not afford me the luxury of retiring.
I was going to transition to home care, but the HR manager is all about her bonus….not offering cases close to me…so yes…its all about money.
When retiring baby boomers did not bankrupt medicare as was predicted, they needed another cause…Social security and medicare are congress’ ATM.
I thought it was probably safe and I would end up getting it, but I KNEW the claims “safe and effective” were totally unfounded based on the short timeline. They were making claims that could not possibly be data based.
I did what I always do with any new therapy…I waited and watched. Thrombocytopenia issues emerged pretty early, mostly in women at that time. The demographic made me wonder when they would start looking at the women affected who were also taking oral birth control, a known clotting and stroke risk. This was probably February/early March 2021?
Crickets. Nobody even asked the question. Just a constant refrain of “side effects are extremely rare and the risk of infection is much worse.”
Well, by that point, I knew the risks of infection for someone my age, height, weight, non-diabetic non-hypertensive self were real damn low. I knew there were effective strategies for mitigation and treatment that were being suppressed. I grew increasingly doubtful of any information coming out of ANY public health agency.
More folks in more demographics started reporting AEs. It was June before I understood the “vaccine” was a completely novel platform that cons your own cells into making a highly cytotoxic protein that drove most of the severe disease associated with the initial outbreak.
I’m grateful for my natural state of risk aversion vs. accepting authoritative pronunciations. I managed to protect my kids from this, despite school pressure, my husband was able to dodge the work mandate. We were both determined and lucky…it didn’t require us to choose our health over our livelihood although it was a close shave.
Parents and 2 sisters all pulled the trigger early and three of them got boosted. One now has stage 3 lung cancer, one has lupus.
Another late response here.
First of all, I have a very public type of job, in fact I was interviewing people (face to face) who had just arrived from China, even Wuhan, in January through March 2020.
That winter, I had two separate bouts with flus, once in December 2019 and then again in January 2020, that included significant respiratory distress. So I was almost sure that I had already recovered from Covid. To me, natural immunity is way better than any vaccine, so I wasn’t immediately looking to vaccinate myself.
The first thing I did during the lockdown was a mathematical analysis of how many people died (1), tested positive or got sick from Covid on the aircraft carrier. That was a real world, closed environment, that removed a lot of variables. I assume that soldiers are healthier than the average American, but I determined that Covid was slightly more contagious and dangerous than the influenza, but certainly not Armageddon.
Since, concurrently, the media was portraying Covid as Armageddon, I read, and watched, almost everything that I could find about it from any source that wasn’t immediately deemed untrustworthy.
At some point, I heard, or read, about the scientists (one at UCSD) who suggested that Covid seemed to be manufactured, and not natural, and how they changed, or withdrew, their original speculations, under pressure from Fauci. That fact made the hairs on my neck stand.
Later, I read how experts were stating that the spike protein was one of the most dangerous characteristics of Covid and that the vaccines were using mRNA to produce spike proteins. That caused me to start to doubt using a vaccine.
Almost simultaneously I read and watched where Peter McCullough, a renowned cardiologist, who had originally recommended the vaccine to his patients had started to notice negative after effects and almost immediately reversed his recommendation. We all can only hope to have doctors with integrity and common sense like him, who put patients over politics and bureaucracy.
Then in my job I began to have interviews with families of Covid and adverse vaccine decedents. I quickly came to the conclusion that the vaccine was at least as dangerous as Covid and perhaps more so, so logically, why would I double my risk of having a bad outcome?
Personally, of my and my families’ acquaintances, I know of zero Covid deaths and two adverse vaccine deaths, both of whom were 28 to lower 30s.
Later as the VAERS data began to accumulate, I decided finally that there was no way that I was going to get the vaccine and I haven’t, even risking my job.
As an interesting side note, this past Christmas I know for a fact that I finally came down with Covid, which puts in doubt my original reason for not getting the vaccine, natural immunity. Anything that makes beer and coffee taste awful is my enemy. Die Covid!