I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

Out of many extended family members, my sister and I and our children/grandchildren did not get the jab. I was very disappointed to see my supposedly intelligent brothers cave immediately to the propaganda and then become very defensive about it when asked why. For me, it was about doing my research, although the use of aborted fetal cell tissue was the immediate “hell no”. Second, I trusted my body to take care of whatever may come my way, which it did. Third, I don’t trust our government, not one little bit, and the harder they pushed, the more I backed away. Fourth, I never get a flu shot because they don’t work either. Fifth, I was listening to all the pushback by concerned health care professionals who were losing their jobs and reputations because I figured they were more truthful. Lastly, I don’t appreciate having my DNA altered.
In my case it was a number of things that just lined up to cause me not to get the vexxine. Because I have a history of DVT, in March 2021 my doctor and I discussed, then decided the J&J shot would be a better choice and wait on its delayed rollout. But back in March 2020 I had come down with a nasty respiratory illness, but no concurrent fever. After 10 days of that my doctor wanted me tested for COVID. Testing was not swift in those days and by the time I was tested symptoms were gone. The result came back as “inconclusive.” A year later, belatedly discovered from my neighbor (an RN) that an inconclusive result was considered the same as “positive.” Did I actually have COVID back in 2020; maybe carrying some immunity? Concurrent with that news a friend of my daughter (female in her 30’s) came down with severe GBS one week after receiving her J&J immunization. So, I waited some more. Then I began receiving troubling emails from a cousin who is a hospital lab supervisor imploring all of her relatives to “just say no!” They were already seeing patients with horrible side effects in her hospital by late spring, 2021. By then I was convinced this snake oil not only did minimal good, but at a huge expense* in different types of adverse effects to include death. Like many others here, followed the writing of Drs. Peter, Paul, Pierre, Robert and many others (sounds like some disciples, but you know who I mean). Upped my exercise and nutrition supplements; so far no problems.
*My daughter’s friend with GBS spent one week in an ICU; one month in a rehab facility. Medical bills of ~$1,000,000.
I didn’t take it. At the end of 2020 I was 68 almost 69.
I looked at information about death rates.
It showed 60-69 had about 1 chance in 200 of dying IF you got the virus.
Younger cohort death rates were lower to the point of being trivial.
On the one hand I had a very small chance of serious effects if I got it.
On the other I had a trial of a rather iffy looking experimental technology.
It was not a hard decision.
At the end of 2021 I mentioned in passing to my pastor that I was more frightened of the jab than I was of the disease.
I stand by that statement.
Frankly, I couldn’t understand what all the ruckus was about.
I still have trouble understanding why people don’t just check things for themselves.
Most folks are busy scratching a living.
Their info stream is a 2 minutes CNN headline watch.
Sad fact.
The older you get, more time you get, the more time you have to sift thru the BS vi blogs like this one.
My husband and I have 14 children, 2 biological and the others adopted. We did not get the vax. It all didn’t seem right from the beginning. I teach, but have never had the flu shot and never had the flu. I didn’t see how this was much different. The push to get everyone vaccinated was creepy. My two biological children got the vaccine to keep their jobs. When my vaxxed son saw a commercial for the booster, he said “Hell, no”. I was so thankful. The others haven’t been vaccinated. It is stressful and heartbreaking to think I could lose a child and I cried when I read stories posted here of those who have. But I raised my children to think for themselves and make their own decisions. They thought it was the right one. I pray the Lord will protect them.
Im well read. I knew about the veterinary trials in the 90s that had 100% fatality rates from RMRNA vaccine . Some evil bastard somewhere also saw those results and had their ( Ahaaa) moment. Then built a weapon. And exported it to china for human trials. I know that the entirity of Fed Gov is utterly evil to its core. The worst of Fed Gov is the maggot lawyer cult. The High priests of the cult ( judges) are still enforcing utterly unconstitutional emergency edicts. While pushing degenerate homosexual filth from the bench. The only thing stupider than a lawyer about any thing technological or mechanical , is a judge. Corruption is like that. I know them for what they are. The censorship told everything to everyone that needed telling. Even if you knew nothing else at all. It was all right there. There is no form of coercion that will make me do as they say. And I didn’t. Yet I convinced only a few of what was happening. I was able to protect myself and my immediate family. The depth of ignorance and conformity… staggering. And the resentment from some that I tried to warn is obvious and growing. Not towards the maggots or their enforcers, but me. None of this is over….
experimental vaccines are for those who think they would be helpful in their situation. I’m a healthy elder, and had knowledge of HCQ and Ivermectin as cures for the virus. I begged my kids to wait for a while for more info to come out.
Regarding virus miss information sharing:
When Jesus was being crucified…
he prayed for those that hurt him..
( God, please forgive them for
they do not understand – but miss think that they do…
… ( they the media bosses, 4th branch, wef, i x, follower$ thereof…) )
Maybe we can learn to emulate the lord … ?
Pray for them ( that’s not an excuse, for them ).
Love thy neighbors
The Holy Spirit greaves me in the same way. This is what the Spirit directed me to reply to you: We are living in the end days. Not quite like the days of Noah, but similar.
Matthew 24:4-7,9-28 NKJV
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. [5] For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. [6] And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. [7] For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. [9] “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. [10] And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. [11] Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. [12] And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. [13] But he who endures to the end shall be saved. [14] And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. [15] “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), [16] “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. [17] Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. [18] And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. [19] But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! [20] And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. [21] For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. [22] And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. [23] “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. [24] For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. [25] See, I have told you beforehand. [26] “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. [27] For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. [28] For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
Peace
I just listened to that part of Matthew the other night. Very sobering but I’m not afraid. To have such evil as exists in the world we must have faith that it will be cleansed. Not like Noah no, but in a different way. It will be very what we are facing. I take strength in others who believe.
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I’ll consider forgiving them after they apologize and are punished. And not a moment earlier.
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I will forgive them after they are duly and permanently punished. Why would anyone ever accept an apology spoken through their eternally lying lips as being heart felt truth?
Pray for them, forgive them, but justice also must be served.
All will bow to Christ the King. No one will leave this world without judgment NO ONE! Let Christ judge them lest you be judged. That does not mean you can’t ask God to judge the evil in this world, forgive them and let God who knows their heart judge them. Read the many Psalms including Psalm 94 where King David ask God to judge man.
Revelation 5:11-14 NKJV
Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, [12] saying with a loud voice: “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!” [13] And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!” [14] Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever.
Peace +
In this case…”Vengeance is Mine!” quoth the Lord… is liable to cause a huge workload of eternal damnation over the next 30 or 40 years because of the natural deaths of these elitist charlatans. I am more of the mindset of our Jewish brothers after WWII…”NEVER AGAIN!”
I am an engineer by training and a small tech business owner by practice. By nature, I am a quant and probably appear on the spectrum compared to most people. When the news of mRNA technology first came out, I dive into it and was fascinated by how clever it was. You basically inject an instructions set into your system, it gets loaded into mitochondria, which are then programmed to build the protective protein chains. Genius!
Then, I started asking question. How many cells does this permeate? Is it localized? If you load the cells with “bad code”, how do you reinstall the old programming? In other words, can you roll back the firmware version installed? No one was asking these question. No one was answering these question, either. So, I decided that while technically fascinating, I only have one life/body and I wasn’t going to risk “bricking” it with something that wasn’t well understood. I was not interested in being an “early adopter”.
Over the past 25 years, I have traveled extensively throughout the world. Since 2002, I started going to Asia (Korea, China, Japan, & Taiwan) a handful of times per year. I know something of mainland Chinese personal hygiene from first hand experience. In January 2020, I started discussing the WuHan flu with a friend who had even more direct knowledge, having 30+ years of professional experience on the mainland. We concluded that the virus had to have come from the bio lab. What we couldn’t determine was what kind of accident it was – was it someone not following decontamination procedures, or was it someone trying to earn a few extra a bucks selling lab animals to markets as a side business? Then the Chinese government shut down domestic travel, but allowed international travel. It was then that we determined that even if it was accidental (and seems most likely), they decided to weaponize it. When western governments started overreacting with lockdowns and propaganda, we felt this confirmed that it was a bioweapon and that our guys new this. They were panicking and lying to us. We knew we couldn’t trust anything else that they told us.
Then I started assessing the risks of allowing my immune system to fight off the infection instead. It seemed pretty clear that death was highly correlated to existing co-morbidities and ages greater than average life expectancy. As a middle aged male with no health issues, on no medications, and active enough to be able to do CrossFit and be one of oldest people at the gym, I considered myself at low risk of dying. When I started looking at the number, they seemed comparable to flu outcomes and I had never been concerned with the flu. The only time I ever got a flu shot was when my daughter was pregnant with her first and requested I do so for her and the baby. I probably get the flu 2 times per decade.
Then the media and political pressures started. I felt like I was in some dystopian nightmare. There was only the approved state narrative and anyone questioning that was a nutcase. As someone with a very technical / quantitative bent and deeply steeped in science, I knew what they were telling me was BS. None of it added up. Everyone I discussed these topics with resorted to “argument from authority” – no one was thinking for themselves. It was horrific – I am talking smart, kind people with credentials and education galore. They were like zombies repeating the narrative. I watched them parrot the lockdown narrative, the mask narrative, then the shot narrative. They couldn’t carry on a conversation with me about the facts and contradictions. They would just get frustrated and angry that I was a skeptic. Then they started name calling.
I had an epiphany of sorts. I realized that they are all being psychologically manipulated. They were smart, educated, and accomplished people. But they were weak and afraid. I developed utter contempt for them. A feeling that has not left me (and probably will never).
I took Jab 1 but started to become aware of some fightback from brave people on social media , researched things and just STOPPED.
I have always trusted UK health authorities but now I don’t trust ANY authority.
I made no secret of the fact I was going to be a lifelong control in this outlandish, criminally conducted experiment. I have a personal medical reason, general medical/scientific reasons, and moral/religious reasons to decline the vex. I never applied for a formal exemption bc to do so acknowledged the authority of unlawful and ill-advised mandates. If denied, TPTB would have a due process record to justify their otherwise unlawful punitive actions. The one thing I told my boss was that I really liked working with the people in our company and wouldn’t it be terrible if the experimental vex turned out to be more harmful than helpful, especially when only government and pharma, not private employers have immunity.
Took about a week for the company vex mandate to go away.
Had even 30% of all persons subjected to mandates simply stood on their medical privacy rights, whether they took the vex voluntarily or not, the COVID-1984 bs would’ve fallen apart immediately. Same with lockdowns and mask mandates. TPTB need voluntary participation. They can’t do without a substantial portion of the labor and knowledge pool in any significant part of the economy. Current airline problems are being blamed on other things, but vex injuries and refusals are the most likely true causes, just like the sudden rise in cardiac and clotting related deaths in children and young adults.
We knew how and how not to deal with a corona virus epidemic from previous ones (most recently @ 20 years ago) and from flu epidemics. All that knowledge and prior research was intentionally ignored and subverted for pharma profits. There may be other and individual motives, but it’s telling that everything deployed had been a negative ROI product until this scamdemic and every effective treatment that has been subverted is low or no profit for pharma and their captured bureaucratic stooges. Interesting that the negative ROI products, like Rundeathisnear and mRNA vexxes are also proving to be both negatively effective and much more dangerous than ‘rona. I hope for Nuremberg style investigations against all responsible actors but not holding my breath.
Amen !
Deduction, Inference, Trust and Verify
First that vaccines take years to be certified as effective with all data and study data over time.
Many died initially and the Cuomo elderly homes deaths – why and how?
When Fauci especially flipflopped within days/weeks back and forth over social distancing, masks/no masks, the drug Remdesevir and the mandates, the 5 days to flatten the curve blah blah – that was a huge RED flag
President Trump got COVID and his press appearances referring to use of Hydrocloroxine and the (abominable) ‘horse paste’, according to the censors and Dem-controlled media was attacked for weeks on end, repeated and mocked at.
Doctors and medical personnel who started speaking up on their successes before and after were attacked, vilified and censored. Second huge red flag.
Mandates – unexplained, unrelentless processes having people fired – big WHY? Third Red flag – becomig OMINOUS.
On the wider scale, those who denied, profit, their histories of medical fraud and deaths with no case histories – namely Bill Gates and Big Pharma, CCP and other global leaders using draconian measures on their citizens. Suddenly the same same behaviour, way of living, government dictates Pandemic style is of one same pattern. SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD if not stopped by individuals.
Not soon after when we were going to church or to the groceries, masked and social distancing I decided NO VAX for me. When the younger folks asked, it was tough because they haven’t knowledge of or have not followed real news or even current what they call ‘it’s all bad news’ – not reading news any more, etc. Also their jabbed friends/colleagues were if not ostracising them, applied pressure even without accusing them of being selfish, etc etc. During that time they had only known of some cases of actual death of their friends/colleagues’ – those of their grandparents, parents and elderly relatives.
Then no masks requirement in many stores when before that was lifted, there were also a few folks who went without. Where we are, at they weren’t harassed as seen in other states.booster shots. The next day after a big notice went up that no masks are required, nobody had their masks on!!
Cases of politicians doing the opposite of what they demand and mandate their citizens must comply with – masks, going out dining or no crowd gatherings etc when all the while thousands, not a few but in the hundreds of thousands gathered faithfully wherever Trump held a rally – masks on originally at all such non-social distancing gatherings. Covid deaths unreliable did not show data of spikes in deaths in those places for those particular periods. Curious?
Booster shots religiously for those I know who have been already vaxxed. As seen in many states,people were attacked for not wearing masks while they still wear theirs. Only one person actually asked me if I was vaxxed, told me he was and doing every booster and everything’s fine. I had mask on each time I rode with him to church. So I said ok, I will use a mask while with you because you are asking me why isn’t then selfish because there are other people to think of. So I asked him ok, since you mention it, think about this .. if the vaccine works, why do people still wear their masks or insist on others doing so. If the vaccine works, why are there not only one booster but so many following with unclear medical indications, why and what for, only because people are being told there is another new variant?
My daughter-in-law asked me about the vaccine when it first came out. We had not seen each other from the pandemic beginning because of the original social distancing stuff. Glad you asked because you have to decide yourself to get it or not. As for me, No/Never. Why?
Then after an August visit to Florida, my daughter-in-law came to see me in October. She told me she and her own mother (80 years old) got COVID while she was there in August; and did the isolation, liquid/Tylenol etc home remedies and recovered. She waited enough time to visit me just in case without telling me she already had it and recovered. I told them before I knew all that they don’t have to worry about masks at my house but if they want me to have it on and they want to have theirs on, that’s ok with me. Everyone did not. My grand-daughter and her boyfriend came with her from out of town and they all told me all three have had Covid. Recovered.
In June last year, I felt horrible with symptoms that don’t gibe with having a normal bad cold. Got bad over three days so went to emergency and they ask if I ave had COVID or have has tested for it. Told them no. They did the test – yes you have it .. nothing we can do or give you to recover.
I started home remedy – got into my health profile informing my doctor and asking if he can help clarify the safety lines to draw because I have on very short notice that my sister and her husband arriving from Asia in 3 days time and I have only 1 question. He set up for the following day a telecall. By that time it was already the eight day with no severe discomfort even without the Tylenol. Told him of sister’s visit – my concern : I don’t want them to get COVID although they been vaxxed originally at home. No problem he said ..be sure after 5days you will be a problem to anyone. You have excellent natural immunity given the hard time you always give me whenever I ask you about ‘flu shot this year?’ and any pills I think you should take on a regular that is not a deficiency supplement. Poor guy – I know he takes such good care of me but we’ve become tight friends – he, young guy, half my age. He knows because I told him once I I have the age privilege but to remember always I respect and really appreciate that he does take good care of me.After all it is not always because sometimes I say ‘ok, not going to give you a hard time for this. I’ll do it’. Asked me a lot of questions, what I did and what else is worst or better. He liked what did if I want to continue although I knew I won’t need to do the regime but maybe as when needed, that is the Tylenol or Mucinex, Nettipot. I did not have on hand Quercetin, D3, K2 high dosage Vit C, zinc, etc and all that then.
All good still – sister and her husband came – left Aug last year. Coming again this Tuesday. They do their own tests while travelling after arrival, unless mandated by the country they are going to prior arrival. Grandaughter – first baby due in a few weeks – all ok thus far.
Not everyone has similar setups or situations. Many are restricted by jobs, family and other factors. Mine is single. My only close physical contacts most of the time is the weekly church where a few have become close friends – some with homes in Arizona or Florida, come back in the summer here for months – hugs and all. Outside – Uber trips – limited to trips to grocery store, bank sometimes, post office rarely ept to get forms or mail off stuff that require more than the Forever stamps for US/Global mail. Interactions often, with staff at property office at least a couple of times per month. Sometimes with movers evey few months , sometimes may be years in between.
Above post had some omissions additional errors: hence correction here for contradictions :
Deduction, Inference, Trust and Verify
First – that vaccines take years to be certified as effective with all data and study data over time.
Many died initially and the Cuomo elderly homes deaths inflated death counts – why and how?
When Fauci especially flipflopped within days/weeks back and forth over social distancing, masks/no masks, the drug Remdesevir and the mandates, the 5 days to flatten the curve blah blah – that was a huge RED flag
President Trump got COVID and his press appearances referring to use of Hydrocloroxine and the (abominable) ‘horse paste’, according to the censors and Dem-controlled media was attacked for weeks on end, repeated and mocked at.
Doctors and medical personnel who started speaking up on their successes before and after were attacked, vilified and censored. Second huge red flag.
Mandates – unexplained, unrelentless processes having people fired – big WHY? Third Red flag – becomig OMINOUS.
On the wider scale, those who denied, profit, their histories of medical fraud and deaths with no case histories – namely Bill Gates and Big Pharma, CCP and other global leaders using draconian measures on their citizens. Suddenly the same same behaviour, way of living, government dictates Pandemic style is of one same pattern. SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD if not stopped by individuals.
Not soon after when we were going to church or to the groceries, masked and social distancing I decided NO VAX for me. When the younger folks asked, it was tough because they haven’t knowledge of or have not followed real news or even current what they call ‘it’s all bad news’ – not reading news any more, etc. Also their jabbed friends/colleagues were if not ostracising them, applied pressure even without accusing them of being selfish, etc etc. During that time they had only known of some cases of actual death of their friends/colleagues’ – those of their grandparents, parents and elderly relatives.
Masks requirement in almost all stores and places one needed to go to before that was lifted. Saw where some few folks went without. Where we live, the maskless few weren’t harassed as seen in other states. The next day after a big notice went up that no masks are required, nobody had their masks on – EVERYWHERE!!
Cases of politicians doing the opposite of what they demanded and mandated their citizens must comply with – masks, going out dining, no crowd gatherings etc when all tduring this time, thousands, not a few, but in the hundreds of thousands gathered faithfully wherever Trump held a rally – masks on originally, yes, crowds packed in hence literally in non-social distancing gatherings.
Covid deaths not available/unreliable – did not show data of spikes in deaths where these rallies were held for all particular periods. Curious?
Then, Booster Shots came. Booster shots from all people I know, who have been already vaxxed.
As seen in many states, people were attacked for not wearing masks while they still wore theirs. Only one person actually asked me if I was vaxxed, told me he was and doing every booster and everything’s fine. I had mask on each time I rode with him to church. So I said ok, I will use a mask while with you because you are asking me why isn’t then selfish because there are other people to think of. So I asked him ok, since you mention it, think about this .. if the vaccine works, why do people still wear their masks or insist on others doing so. If the vaccine works, why are there not only one booster but so many following with unclear medical indications, why and what for, only because people are being told there is another new variant?
Now 2 years later, those I know having problems – heart most common. Some dead.
My daughter-in-law asked me about the vaccine when it first came out. We had not seen each other from the pandemic beginning because of the original social distancing stuff. Glad you asked because you have to decide yourself to get it or not. As for me, No/Never. Why?
Then, after an August 2021 visit to Florida to see her mother, my daughter-in-law came to see me in October. She does not normally omit to call or visit me for that long. I assumed was still in Florida. I never call her unless it is about some urgent matter she needs to know about. She would call me when she has some time because she works long hours and assured her every time, there is no need to call regularly just to chat whenever she did always starting with apologies for not calling for so long. Apparently, she and her own mother (80 years old) got COVID while she was there in August; did the isolation, liquid/Tylenol etc home remedies and recovered. She waited enough time to visit me just in case I might get some remnant or asymptomatic reoccurence; without telling me she already had it and recovered when she called to tell me she and husband are coming to visit me. She never tells me the grandkids are in town always to surprise me so it was with my grand-daughter and her new boyfriend who came too, from out of town. Told them before I knew all that, if she hasc oncern about masks at my house and she/or husband/or both want to have theirs on, that’s ok with me. I will put mine on for their visit. Everyone did not. During the visit they all told me all four of them have had Covid. Recovered.
Later June 2022, I felt horrible with symptoms that don’t gibe with having a normal bad cold. Got bad over three days so went to emergency and they ask if I ave had COVID or have has tested for it. Told them no. They did the test – yes you have it .. nothing we can do or give you to recover.
I started home remedy – got into my health profile informing my doctor and asking if he can help clarify the safety lines to draw because I have on very short notice that my sister and her husband arriving from Asia in 3 days time and I have only 1 question. He set up for the following day a telecall. By that time it was already the eight day with no severe discomfort even without the Tylenol. Told him my concern of sister’s visit : I don’t want them to get COVID although they been vaxxed originally at home. No problem he said .. be sure after 5 days you will NOT be a problem to anyone. Referred to excellent natural immunity given the hard times I always rejected pills and shots; especially whenever he would ask every annual health checkup about ‘flu shot this year?’ and any pills he recommended I should take for pains, rare cold infections that are not deficiency supplements. Poor guy – I know, who has always taken such good care of me and once a year I always give him a hard time. It is because we’ve become tight friends – he, young guy, half my age. He knows because I told him once I have the age privilege, but to remember always I respect, really appreciate knows well he does take good care of me. It has not been always ”we’re going to rehash this today?” when I start clamping down my mouth look. I would let him finish, weigh the new situation easily decide : ‘ok, not going to give you a hard time for this. I’ll do it’.
The televisit was my first and all strange but he did asked me a lot of questions. What I did and what else is worst or better. He liked what I did (including the Chinese sore throat/cough infection treatment) if I decide to continue. Told him I knew I won’t need to do the regime but maybe as when needed, over the next day or two though already feeling a big difference, for the better. Will monitor sore throat or fever – already no sysmptoms on this visit. Doubt will use Tylenol or Mucinex, Nettipot, or just ‘as when needed’. This was because I did not have on hand Quercetin, D3, K2 high dosage Vit C, zinc, etc and all that then.
All good still – sister and her husband came – left Aug last year. Coming again this today. They do their own tests while travelling after arrival, unless mandated by the country they are going to prior arrival. Grandaughter – first baby due in a few weeks – all ok thus far.
Not everyone has similar setups or situations. Many are restricted by jobs, family and other factors. Mine is single. My only close physical contacts most of the time is the weekly church where a few have become close friends – some with homes in Arizona or Florida, come back in the summer here for months – hugs and all. Outside – Uber trips – limited to trips to grocery store, bank sometimes, post office rarely, except to get forms or mail off stuff that require more than the Forever stamps for US/Global mail. Interactions often, with staff at property office at least a couple of times per month. Sometimes with movers every few months , sometimes may be years in between.
Great thread. The Official Jabbites alerted me decades ago something was amiss. I did not take the shot, because everything about it and the narrative was off. Plus, the US Dept of They has generally always been a bad provider of nearly everything it insinuates itself into, but They really outdid themselves this time.
I worked in public health. I gave immunizations for years. I also worked in critical care. While far from being a proper anti-vaxxer, over the decades I came to very much disagree with the overwhelming of children’s immune systems with the boatloads of excessive vaccines that have been added, the silencing of questions about ingredients and the disastrous liability foisted onto innocent patients due to the lack of liability for drug companies. I agree with immunizations now only in theory, not in current practice. Besides, I’ve yet to figure out under what part of the Constitution the federal gov’t has the authority to give immunity to any private company or to itself for knowingly committing crimes.
When the whole thing started, I listened carefully. The hype was beyond anything I’d ever seen, laced with daily injections of (manufactured) fear, but “experts” started off inline (for about 5 seconds) with real science. Then they quickly went so far off the rails, it became a mockery of science, history and humanity. Everything these powers-that-be were promoting was a circus of the absurd. I kept asking, “Did everybody fail 9th grade science?”
I read hundreds of studies. I checked my own knowledge by looking for “what’s changed”, but consistently found, I wasn’t the scientific outlier. I took no joy in that. My concern was for all the people who bought the lies or were coerced into taking the experimental shots. They’re not bad or stupid people…for the most part. They simply got duped (or coerced), even the ones who acted like total jerks. The potential price they could pay for buying this snake oil is way out of proportion for people who believed they were doing the right thing, even if they were nasty about it or the right thing was to keep their job so they could feed their family.
Earlier I read a post in this thread from a nurse who expressed how disappointed she is in the medical community. Yeah, me too. Not one doctor should have ever consented to doing things they knew were wrong.They knew masks and shutdowns were useless against respiratory viruses. They knew the treatments, or lack thereof, and procedures they were being told to use were aberrations of good health care and were dangerous. They knew the PCR was not the “gold standard.” They knew. If they didn’t, they have no business practicing medicine. The ones who convinced themselves the narrative was true have some fear/denial issues reality will force them to confront at some point. Nurses were in a bad place too. The medical staff should have all banded together and told the hospital admin that were not going to practice ideological voodoo and if they were fired, they brought some slightly used scrubs for the office guys and gals in those high-end suits.
The big culprit whose head I want on a pike…besides the corrupt “experts?” Hospital systems. I don’t know what it’s like other places, but in my State, almost all the once-private doctors’ offices are now owned by regional hospital monopolies. More coercion from decades ago. The corporation got paid handsomely for every C-19 diagnosis, hospitalization, ventilation and death. They accepted this blood money while knowing it stank of corruption and overreach. They didn’t fight the bad laws (CMS, etc.), mandates or “recommendations” (that came with bonuses) to save lives. They just went to the bank while threatening doctors, nurses and other professionals with losing their jobs and licenses.
It’s a State and federal issue. Every State must make it illegal for hospitals to own doctors’ practices that aren’t permanently in-house. Every State must establish a Doctor’s Bill of Rights to Practice Medicine without dictatorial interference from government bureaucracies. One size medicine never fits all. Standards of practices don’t disappear without gov’t entities calling all the shots. They disappear when gov’t calls them. Doctors are as liable for malpractice in the current system as they are outside it. That doesn’t change. Nurses, pharmacists, technicians, etc. must also have protection from this kind of crap ever happening again.
Federal…Medicare and Medicaid law must be changed from unilateral authority over all treatments, rules and regulations concerning patients stuck in these programs. They (CMS) control now through threats of non-payment for not following their mandates, like requiring masks, certain meds, etc. while the gov’t mandates certain people must be a part of these corrupt programs or make it impossible for others to acquire care without gov’t subsidy. Another rigged system. Doctors and hospitals must be able to refuse to follow directives that are harmful to patients, as individuals and as a whole.
Better yet, let this recent lesson take. Get rid of federal involvement in health care. Completely. It’s always been an abusive and abused system. Return it to the States and to private providers for local oversight. Most hospitals originated as local, faith or university hospitals. Nobody was dying on the streets that wanted or needed health care. Every State and county had indigent care. Watch the price of health care plummet to being more affordable too.
There is no such thing as “free”. The price paid for “free” shots and a single-decision system has turned out to be higher than just the corrupt use of taxpayer money. The federal government has no Constitutional authority to be a health care provider anyway.
These colluding entities, federal, State, hospitals, professional licensing organizations, etc. all brought this on themselves. It’s the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on this country and the world. Even if some of these wicked people spend the rest of their lives in prison, the penalty for them will still never be as horrific as what they have done to innocent people.
When the wretched politicians passed ObamaCare, so many people spoke up about the potential worst case scenarios.
They were mocked
The scamdemic and these clot shots have shown everyone (who can still think for themselves) what the worst case scenario looks like.
And I want to state publicly, that I live in the great state of Tennessee, and healthcare here sucks out loud. Mainly because it’s become ObamaCare on steroids. Our governor is a RINO and I have no idea how he was re-elected. He may call himself a Christian, much like Mike Pence, but he’s NOT fighting for people to have the right to govern their own healthcare decisions.
Just sayin’ it out loud, loud and clear. Stop this pay for play scheme with the vaccinations. Make it against the law for someone to deny medical treatment due to vaccination status as Vanderbilt Hospital has done in some cases. Stop taking federal money.
I challenge every governor to participate in Extreme Federalism. Stop taking dirty money. I’m sick of it. People have needlessly died from these shots. You’re all responsible for it.
Stop taking
dirtyblood money…I agree completely. Hospital systems are the worst and showed their true colors last three years. And they are gobbling many local practices with enticements for 50-something and older docs who bit. Mine did in 2020 and was beholden and could not even prescribe Ivermectin.
“The” Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals (affiliated with Case Western Reserve University) healthcare systems were the biggest perpetrators of malfeasance of care and employee mandates in my opinion.
a few data points…
One unjabbed friend died at UH on a vent and Rundeathisnear and another friend, jabbed in May 2021, died of an abdominal bleed-out and/or organ failure, in the same timeframe – December 2021.
Another fit and healthy friend, had mandated CC jab for work has afib in mid-late 40’s and clots running around their body after single stint surgery, and you can’t tell me that “The” Cleveland Clinic does not know how to handle routine stint surgery and manage clotting. There is nothing routine when the clot-causing shot is involved.
Last one…millennial knows more than their highly educated parents, mandated jab by CC and happily lined up for it, a year later, a previously benign abdominal growth is now cancerous.
The conglomerates are sitting on the data. It appears the greed for business and an inability to admit THEY WERE WRONG ON EVERYTHING overpowers their ability to do the right thing.
This is just one small piece of the universe. Some might argue it is all coincidence or natural/typical events.
Medicare and Medicaid, are ripe with fraud. Authoritarian control, cures that. Or so we are led to believe.
Between Christmas and New Years 2019/2020 I began to follow the updated ZeroHedge news feed regarding C19 and figured out in the first two weeks of January that we were headed towards mask-mandates, quarantines and lockdowns. Owning a business I spent a few days reading every peer-reviewed medical scientific paper on the effectiveness on masks and respiratory virus’s. There were about 40 pre-C19 papers and ALL of them stated that wearing masks showed “No significant difference” or “No significant reduction” in infections or the spread of an aerosolized respiratory virus. Studies have also proven that people who wear masks violate the cardinal-sin of failing to “not” touch their face/mask at the rate of 13 to 20 times more than those who choose not to wear a mask. Here is a link to the last 10 pre-C19 (before the newer fake studies became politicized) World Health Organizations studies (WHO) – scroll down to page 25: https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329439/WHO-WHE-IHM-GIP-2019.1-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
When Dr. Fauci initially stated There’s no reason to be walking around with masks.” He went further, specifically describing how scientifically ineffective and even potentially harmful masks could be: “When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences—people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.” “I do not recommend that you wear a mask.” Dr. Anthony Fauci CBS 60 Minutes interview in March of 2020 I knew he was initially telling the truth however, no undoubtedly under significant political pressure he changed his recommendations to falsely claiming masks worked. It was at this point I became skeptical of everything that was being said during the White House daily briefings – I watched them all! Later we were all proven correct when the NY Post published emails from Dr. Fauci singing a completely but truthful different advice privately. On November 23, 2022 in a deposition under penalty of perjury Dr. Anthony Fauci couldn’t provide any studies or evidence that Masks would stop any type of respiratory virus’s.
Cloth/Surgical/N95 Masks
– In the CDC/WHO pre-C10 Pandemic Guidebooks do not include any mention of masks being recommended to stop the spread of any respiratory virus
– The Community Mitigation Guidelines to Prevent Pandemic Influenza 2017 which includes medical science information from over 200 medical journals between 1990 and 2016 do not mention the use of masks at all
– In 2019 the CDC and WHO prepared for a future pandemic by engaging in war games, by using lengthy scientific research to determine the practical application of their guidebooks and put their recommendations to the test in a simulation of an outbreak such as C19 of which masking was “not” part of the personal protective measures
– The United Kingdom’s (UK) Department of Health covered the evidence on masking in their own guidebook “Although there is a perception that the wearing of facemasks by the public in the community and household setting may be beneficial, there is in fact very little evidence of wide-spread benefit from their use in this setting. Facemasks must be worn correctly, changed frequently, removed properly and disposed of safely.”
My wife has always been an avid anti-vaxxer and has always been the leader in our family and extended family in terms of dispensing medical information and care. For me, I believe vaccines work and had hoped that the C19 vaccines would as well. I was initially willing to consider being vaccinated if that’s what it took to ensure the family stayed fed as most of my family is dependent upon my business skillshttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f60a.svg. However, just like I researched the mask issue I began to read every peer-reviewed medical science paper I could read attempting to learn and understand the terms of the trade. Thankfully, with today’s technology all you have to do is touch the word and the iPad will look up the definition of the medical term for you and that made it significantly easier to understand. I also began to watch anything that was on YouTube that discussed the vaccines after they became available. I can remember my wife and I traveling from Florida back to Michigan in early 2021 when we stayed at a city owned RV park that was part of a large sporting complex watching all the cars lined up to go though the drive-though vaccine tents in the parking lots. It was during this time period I found a YouTube interview with Bret Weinstein where he and Dr Robert Malone were discussing vaccines. I also became aware of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche and found a link to a video that explains what Geert Vanden Bossche says using a football anaology of how your natural immunity reacts to virus’s when a vaccination is also injected into your body: https://rumble.com/vlvhy5-best-explanation-ive-seen-about-why-the-covid-jabs-are-killer-shots.html It was then that I learned from Geert that vaccinating too early in the Life Cycle of a Virus such as the medical establishment has done creates an Arms Race with the C19 virus wherein the mass-vaccination causes the virus to mutate much faster than the ability to vaccinate and becomes more virulent as Omicron has become as the vaccine and subsequent boosters have trained/fatigued the Natural Immune system by training the virus to not respond or in this case has caused an immune escape to occur and those who have been vaccinated are unable to respond to an infectious agent meaning that the C19/Boosters cause the individual to become extremely susceptible to being infected over and over again without the body’s Natural Immune system being able to fight-off the new mutated virus.
After my introduction to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, Doctor Robert Malone and Bret Weinstein that I made the commitment to never take THIS vaccine.
Every prediction Geert has made by the way has come true. We can only hope the last prediction of a strong variant that will devastate the vaccinated will not come to pass. He states that it will be the unvaccinated that will save the world.
My wife, son and I were eventually infected with Omicron just before Christmas 2021 and fortunately during my research I began to follow the late Dr. Vladimir Zelenko who discovered the pre-C19 supplement regiment (Vitamin D3, C, Zink and Quercetin) to take to defeat C19Having purchased plenty of test kits after I late evening had the cold-chills tested positive. We had ordered and received Ivermectin from a mail-order pharmacy in India 🙂 and took the required dosage and I went to bed. When I woke up my legs were very achy and my wife massaged my legs and I got up and was just fine. Lost my appetite for a few days but that was it. My son and wife who had also tested positive were over it within a few days.
And finally, if you had simply followed Geert Vanden Bossche from mid-2021 you would have known that everything and I mean everything we are seeing today.
I have been telling everyone that once people start dropping dead or dying for no apparent reason the “real science deniers” including the “authoritarians” will not be able to hide from the truth we are seeing laid out before our eyes.
God bless you Sundance. These are the type of questions that enable people to safely and freely express themselves.
Neither I nor my entire 5 person immediate family took the bioweapon injection Covid 19 “ vax”. First, we have a 21 year old son who at 1 year was injured by his childhood vaccines inc MMR in the 1 year group of vaccines- that led to autism, grand mal seizures and later severe cluster headaches know as “ suicide headaches”. Vaccines changed his life forever along with our immediate family. I met Dr Judy Mikovits through Austism conferences over ensuing years ( she of “ Plandemic Movie” fame). I know she is a truthteller who has suffered much for going up v Fauci years ago. She warned that the Covid vaccines would cause massive death and disabilities- autoimmune disorders, ADE ( Antibody- dependent enhancement), increases in cancer among many other diseases. She was right on as always.
God bless you Sundance- it’s not surprising to me that the vast majority of your loyal readers remained Covid unvaxxed. Some of the smartest folks around one smart blogger- you.
I don’t trust the government. At all.
I got an 8 year prison sentence for having mushrooms.
After all that hassle, headache, heartache, loss and grief of dealing with the government over something natural that has been known since prehistoric times to be harmless, I’ll be damned to ever take some untested injections because they say I need it.
That’s why I didn’t and will never take their government shot.
“For Identification purposes only” Thats what the shroom kits said.
Peace out
Gymnopilus spectabilis
I didn’t take the V, from the get go I got the vibe “No Way”. My intuition was on full open and continues today with all the heart problems being seen in all age groups.
I got Covid in October 2021, I never had the flu but if that’s what it was I made it.
I fasted took my vitamins and was well in 10 days. I’m a smoker and overweight by 35 pounds.
My partner is on 10 meds, has had three heart surgeries and has diabetes, he was scared not to take the jab, plus his job mandated it and he and his colleagues never questioned their authority.
My family and friends aren’t jabbed his are fully jabbed, God help them.
It is sad that a small group of people around the world find themselves to be so self-important and superior to all others on the planet that they would develop, fund and invest millions more on paying others to perpetuate their crimes against humanity in the form of these Fake Vaccines — the gene therapy shots in which these same people intend to control the masses. Look at the reports from medical personnel regarding the magnetized metals being found in the blood stream of those who fell prey; the blood cell clusters that are no longer RED– they cannot carry O2 any longer and that condition is irreversible; the clots being found by these doctors and by funeral personnel around the world that are not formed by blood but by synthetic material injected into the system inside these shots… the list goes on. The more that comes out the more convinced I am that the refusal to “follow” was the right one.
The information is out there if one only takes time to look. It is a life and death matter, so in my mind it is worth the effort to search and research. Is there anything more important than our health and the health of our loved ones? I am truly saddened by the stories of those who gave in to keep their jobs so they could provide for their families and they were killed or severely injured by the gene therapy experiment… leaving those families in the position they tried to avoid, as well as in mourning. Shame on the government, media and medical community that pushed this outcome on so many! Accountability must be a priority for all of us. We all know someone suffering due to compliance.
My world is much smaller these days. I have lost friends over the issue but mostly I have disassociated from the sheep. It was eye-opening to see how many people in my circles I did not really know very well… they not only followed, they bullied those who didn’t. I am FOR the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights. Bullies have no place in my world and that is exactly what we have for a government these days. As long as people continue to keep rolling over to the abuses by our government we will be subjected to plandemics and worse… they are desperate to keep the power over us and the money in their pockets. If this “vaccine” didn’t wake up the majority, nothing will.
I don’t trust any medication that’s been on the market less than 5 years. I’ve seen too many drug recalls in my time.I don’t trust anything if I can’t check the ingredients list. Blame it on the fact that I’m allergic to certain common additives, but I won’t even use a floor cleaner these days without checking the ingredients first. You ever try to get the ingredients list for an “experimental” vaccine?I have the kind of body chemistry that makes it more likely for me to experience side-effects. I don’t experience side-effects from every medication, but I do get them a lot more often than the general population. This has made me cautious when dealing with any medication I haven’t taken before.I live a very isolated lifestyle. The odds of exposure are tiny.I am in a demographic with a very low mortality rate where this virus is concerned..
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All totaled, even if the vaccine were 100% effective, I still would’ve chosen not to get it. And there is no narrative that would have made me change my mind.
I am 84 years old which, according to the so-called “experts “, I was in the “most in danger group” all through the nonsense.
I was a rather strange child who rebelled, at a very young age, against being told to “Do as I say, not as I do.” Although it got me into a lot of trouble during my young years, I made up my mind that unless what I was being told to do made sense, to me, I would do just the opposite.
I learned early on that an awful lot of adults were hypocrites who went whichever way the wind blew and for the rest of my life I lived with my eyes, and ears, wide open.
I was a young adult through the years of FDR; Lynden Johnson; the years of Tommy – the crook- Delasandro (Nancy Pelosi’s daddy); “Tricky Dickey Nixon; Jimmy Carter; George H.W.; that bastard Bill Clinton; Dubbya; the son of a bitch Husain; and now Creepy Joe. Through all these and remember, I said “…with my eyes wide open.”
From hearing my father’s, and his three brother’s opinions of FDR I developed an early distrust of government and personal observation with “EYES WIDE OPEN” of the administrations of the liars and connivers listed above certainly did nothing to boost my trust in the Government.
By the time I had reached my 75th year, I thought I had seen it all and that it couldn’t possibly get any worse. And then along came the likes of Pelosi, Shumer, Shiftless, A.O.C, Maxine, Harris, Blinken,Yellen, Austin, Buttigieg, Mayorkas, Klain, Merrick Garland. Anyone who could place the least bit of trust in government at this point are either in a coma, are totally unaware of what is going on around them, are either Liberals or complete idiots… but then, I repeat myself.
And, if all that weren’t enough, there’s the Little Demon straight from Hell, Dr. Anthony Mengele Fauci.
Anyone who could look at that person and hear him utter a single sentence, yet allow themselves to be dosed with a totally unproven “vaccine”, regardless of the pressures applied, need all our prayers.
Regarding the reason, or reasons, why I refused, and will continue to refuse the poison… need I say more.
“I was a young adult through the years of FDR; Lynden Johnson; the years of Tommy – the crook- Delasandro (Nancy Pelosi’s daddy); “Tricky Dickey Nixon; Jimmy Carter; George H.W.; that bastard Bill Clinton; Dubbya; the son of a bitch Husain; and now Creepy Joe. Through all these and remember, I said “…with my eyes wide open.”
Well said ‘DEVIL DOG!’ and to each of them a very special place in our God’s HELL! Why would any thinking person ever follow anything said by any American politician…including DJT?
Could we have a cocktail? I was a weird kid and knew at 13 when Dick took us off the gold standard it was a bad thing. I hated Kissinger for normalizing China. However, I have great kids.
Hear! Hear!
No trust in the government, plain and simple.
The second they started censoring doctors was a giant red flag saying DO NOT TAKE THE SHOT and set off my BULLSHIT ALERT!!
Simple observation and discriminate thinking is why no one in my immediate family took the shot. They told us an experimental drug was a vaccine, they changed the story about preventative measures, they suppressed and banned known effective treatments, paid hospitals bounties for fatal treatment regimens, gave immunity from prosecution to the drug companies cooking up that juice and then suppressed adverse reaction reports when they started coming in. I did trust what I was seeing and I said no.
There needs to be Nuremberg level criminal trials for crimes against humanity leveled against all that lied to us and caused us harm.
Why sould I take an experimental gene therapy under EUA, with many side effects incl. death, long term effects unknown, for a virus with IFR 0.15 (lower mortality than Influenza)? I’m not suicidal and can think for myself, thanks but no thanks.
I was going to get the COVID “vaccine” when I was in the Army in early 2021. On Facebook I saw that people in my company were getting it and as a patriotic American I wanted to do my part to help fight COVID-19. But at the time I was busy out-processing from the Army and it wasn’t a priority, and I ended up being honorably discharged without the shot. This was in March of 2021, prior to the mandates. A few weeks/months later I saw that the “vaccines” were experimental and were not, in fact, made with attenuated viruses but used some sort of weird mRNA process. I wondered why this was not being discussed in the Media or explained by the government. It seemed like sort of an important tibit of information to share with people. Then I became aware of VAERS and saw all the injuries and deaths that were being linked to the new “vaccines”. I wondered why the government and the Media were not bothering to tell anybody about the injuries and deaths from these novel mRNA “vaccines”. It did not make sense. I discovered that in 1976 the Swine Flu vaccine was pulled after a couple of dozen people either died from the shots or got got Guillain-Barré syndrome (there are conflicting stories on the web about this), and it was a huge scandal. The important thing about this is that a relatively small number of injuries or deaths from these injections resulted in the vaccine being pulled, there was a huge kerfuffle about it, and yet in 2021 there were tens of thousands of deaths and over a million injuries linked to the COVID-19 “vaccines” and there was radio silence from the Media, the government and pharma companies about all these injuries and deaths. WTH? So I became very, very curious as to what was really going on because, again, it didn’t make any sense. Then the mandates were put in place in the summer of 2021 and my paranoia ratcheted up again. How can you forcibly (no jab, no job) inject people with a novel drug that was maiming and killing so many Americans? There was something so blatantly, clearly wrong about this and no discussion was allowed about it. It was ridiculous. Why were there no debates in the Media, or allowed on social media, or being held in Congress about this? This was a blatant violation of bodily integrity and the Nuremberg Code and questioning it got you blocked, censored, doxxed, deplatformed and maybe fired from your job. Again, WTH?
Needless to say at this point I was voraciously consuming information from alternative media including channels on Telegram and sharing it with friends and family, trying to warn them that something was wrong. On Facebook I group- messaged a bunch of college frat buddies-one of them a doctor-about what I was seeing, and they dismissed me as a conspiracy theorist and asked to be left alone. The Left side of my family–my oldest brother and my cousins–thought the same about me. I could not understand why they didn’t at least have a couple of questions about what was going on. It was like they were in a trance.
I got the book COVID-19 and the Global Predators: We are the Prey by Dr. Peter Breggin, which has an outline of the conspiracy behind the plandemic, and I started reading the RFK Jr. book The Real Anthony Fauci. I subsequently sent these books out to family members as Christmas presents in 2021. This year the book I sent out as a present was Edward Dowd’s Cause Unknown. Over the last year I have been dropping off information at fire stations, police stations and pharmacies regarding the plandemic and the dangers of the mRNA injections. I have been sending information to former Army buddies. I got kicked off my original FB page because I had around ten 30-day suspensions for double-plus ungood wrongthink posts about the “vaccines”. I put a message on the back of my hatchback in 4-inch lettering that provides the death and adverse event numbers linked to the mRNA injections and includes the web address for openvaers (note that VAERS is only believed to capture 1-10% of the actual injuries and deaths from vaccines). While I was visiting a friend in Colorado in December 2021 my little Honda hatchback’s back window with the message was egged. I am thinking of changing the message to “You are the carbon they want to remove” and putting in the address of a good aggregator website, like totalityofevidence.
The COVID-19 plandemic and the 2020 election steal made me realize that something was wrong with my understanding of the world. I had thought that such a blatant crime as the election steal would be investigated by the GOP and the steal would be overturned, and when it wasn’t-when the GOP just ignored it and pretended that everything was normal-I realized that something very dark was going on. Bless my heart, right? Because of my research, I am questioning everything now-the supposed moon landing, 9/11, the Murrah building bombing, etc. I had already suspected that there was something wrong with the official explanation of the JFK assassination. I now think that the world is run, at the very top, by a very evil cabal and has been for awhile. I believe that this cabal is being exposed now because they have gone too far and people have access to information-on the web-that is not controlled by it. I feel like a dam is going to break soon about what is going on, but then I thought this would happen in 2021 too.
A couple of things I would like to share: totalityofevidence is a great resource for information on the plandemic, Edward Dowd has rock solid information on the skyrocketing death and disability rates around the world that coincide with the mRNA injection rollout, Dr. David Martin provides a paper trail of patents and other information that show that the COVID-19 scam has been planned for over a decade, and Catherine Austin Fitts describes the financial aspects of The Great Reset/COVID scam. I recommend researching what was found in regard to the military’s DMED medical database, which detailed a huge jump in injuries and deaths for military members following the COVID-19 “vaccine” rollout/mandate. Look up Dr./LTC Theresa Long, Dr./LTC Peter Chambers and Lawyer Thomas Renz. The Dr. Reiner Fuellmich interview with Meridith Miller includes a good explanation of some important psychological aspects of the unconventional war we are in.
One of the most important things we can do is wake everyone up to what is really going on, because the people doing this to the world cannot survive full exposure. No one will want to live in the world they have planned for us and our children, and no one will accept it. But they have to see what is planned for them and their children.
The last thing I will add in here is a recent email I sent to my oldest brother, who believes the 2020 election was legitimate, is still a covidian and has actually had five mRNA shots (I hope he got duds). I have begged him not get any more shots. I have pretty much stopped arguing with him because nothing I show him has any effect on him, but recently when he said I was promoting conspiracy theories, I decided to respond to him again. Instead of bombarding him with information and evidence as I have in the past, I decided to simply ask him basic questions about the “vaccines” and the plandemic. I think that getting people to interact with the information directly by asking questions is better than bombaring them with information or lecturing them. Anyway, here is my email, with the links removed:
XXXX,
>>Unless and until you provide smoking gun evidence of any of these conspiracies, you got nothing.
I can prove to you that there is a conspiracy by simply asking you to answer five simple questions:
1) Explain exactly what is in the mRNA injections that are falsely called “vaccines” and explain exactly how they work in the body.
2) Show me the long-term safety studies of these mRNA injections. Where can I find these studies?
3) Explain why governments around the world mandated an experimental mRNA injection for an illness that is easily treatable with off-the-shelf drugs (that were bizarrely restricted or banned from use for COVID-19) and this illness is no more dangerous than the flu (99.7% recovery rate for most everyone under 70 years old), and all this was known in the fall of 2020?
4) How is it possible that the pharma companies and the government have zero liability if you are injured or killed by these experimental drugs that were mandated by the government?
5) How do the mandates for these experimental injections (to keep your job, to travel, to buy food) follow the letter and the law of the Nuremberg Code?
If everything that is going on is all on the up and up, if everything going on is all perfectly legitimate, there should be plenty of information all over the internet, in the Media, from the pharma companies and from the government about exactly what is in these injections and how they work. The long-term safety studies should be widely available. We were told these injections were “safe and effective”, right? What is this claim based on? We now know that they are NOT effective in preventing COVID and are definitely not safe. There should be easily-obtainable, detailed research papers and government bills providing the medical and legal justifications for the mandated injections of these experimental drugs. As noted, COVID-19 is about as dangerous as the common flu, so why were such draconian measures as lock-downs, shutdowns, mandates and vaccine passports forced on the world?
It doesn’t make sense.
If you cannot find good information on these experimental mRNA drugs that were injected into billions of people, that should tell you that something really, really f’d up is going on. Understand that it normally takes ten to fifteen years to do all the research and clinical studies to get a typical vaccine approved, and these ARE NOT even vaccines but experimental mRNA drugs. The definition of vaccines was actually changed by the CDC in 2021 so the government could claim that these injections were standard vaccines (in order to prevent “vaccine hesitancy”):
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So please try to answer these questions–if you are genuinely interested in seeing “smoking-gun” evidence of a conspiracy. If you have trouble answering these questions because the official narrative is illogical, because there is a lack of information, and/or because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance, that should demonstrate to you that I am not crazy and that there is actually something to what I am telling you.
Bonus question:
5) Why are are the world governments still so desperately pushing these mRNA injections on their citizens when it is now abundantly clear that they do not stop COVID-19 and are not safe?
I understand that you do not want to accept what I am telling you–and you do not have to. Who would? This stuff is nightmarish and I wish I could un-see what I see. But I am NOT telling you this stuff because I have some hidden, devious agenda or derive great joy in yammering at you about it. I am convinced that I am right and I am trying to warn you about what is going on. That is what brothers do. If you don’t want to talk about this stuff anymore though, no problem. But if you genuinely want more information, I would be happy to provide it. IMHO the dam will break on this in the next year, maybe the next few months.
One related fun fact to consider: Governments of the world have murdered hundreds of millions of their own citizens over the last century. Maybe this is happening again, now.
Love,
XXXXX
BONUS INFO:
The Worldwide Corona Crisis. Global Coup d’État Against Humanity, Michel Chossudovsky (link removed)
For some reason thought that links were disallowed so I took them out of what I posted above, so here are the missing links from my post:
Openvaers: https://openvaers.com
Totality of Evidence: https://totalityofevidence.com/
Edward Dowd: https://gettr.com/user/edwarddowd, https://totalityofevidence.com/edward-dowd/
Meridith Miller interview with Reiner Fuellmich:
>>The definition of vaccines was actually changed by the CDC in 2021 so the government could claim that these injections were standard vaccines (in order to prevent “vaccine hesitancy”):
https://yournews.com/2022/07/11/2375584/emails-confirm-why-cdc-changed-definitions-of-vaccine-vaccinated/
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/cdc-quietly-changes-its-official-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination/98223572/
The Worldwide Corona Crisis. Global Coup d’État Against Humanity, Miche Chossudovsky (free pdf file):
https://docsend.com/view/s7gp74xwndyatqb6
You sound like a great little brother. Hope your brother stops and listen.
Thank you. I have given him plenty of information and I am pretty sure the official narrative will collapse pretty soon. I am afraid he will have a mental breakdown when he realizes what is going on though.
As some have also shared, my faith belief kept me safe. I never caught coVid. I never was even snagged to be tested. Why would I as an RN allow anyone to shove a foreign object tainted with disease up my nose? When it became word on the street that Gates, Fauci and others too numerous to mention had their hands in the tills of coVid supply, vaccines or plexiglas for sneeze shields, my belief in it all went to hell in a hand basket. If you are part of the industry itself, to benefit, in my estimation you are the problem. May they be properly judged at the gates when their day arrives.
I was 70 in Dec. 2020. I have an exceptional immune system and have never had a cold, a flu, or any bronchial infection.
I am never sick.
I taught public school and never was sick.
I had a preschool at home and was never sick.
So, for me, there was never a reason to take a shot for a flu or fake covid which was really an engineered flu.
Thank you for your service in education, back when that was what it was still intended to be. Your years around the kids made your immune system bullet proof.
Please recall that Congress and members of Congress were and are exempt from taking the vaccine. Why was this?
Let’s vaccinate the military, let’s vaccinate all the workers, let’s rants and rave about vaccines but let’s exempt ourselves. So many other interesting comments here but no one seems to mention this was one of the many many tells.
https://www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859
BTW we are not done with infections from Covid so please get your early treatment medication before symptoms and take upon first symptoms, wether it’s a cold, flu or COVID they are all viruses.
You can get HCQ and ivermectin from India, I’ve done it four times and it takes about three weeks. They don’t take credit cards, I used a 2nd checking account with only the amount for the meds up in the account. NO problems, they were honest to work with hence my personal recommendation. Get lots of extra, this isn’t going away. Worked the same on my flu, minor symptoms for 1 day. Go to the FLCCC website and get the protocol info for types and amount of meds.
https://www.alldaychemist.com/
I have never taken a flu vaccine. So it wasn’t even a consideration for me. Have always believed in building natural immunity. But it was more than that with the covid. It was everything that has been mentioned here. The fear-mongering, the hatred for my president, the lockdowns, the mandates, the lies on death certificates, the list could go on and on and on. My husband got his last flu shot in 2017 and he was the sickest he had ever been from the flu within 2 months. He has refused to get any more. Thankfully, he also refused the C-vax.
A friend of mine couldn’t wait to get vaxxed, was fairly healthy and in her late 60’s. She caught covid twice since and is convinced the vax kept her out of the hospital. We can’t talk politics and even the covid vax can turn to politics if we’re not speaking gently. Good thing is she does not feel the need to get the boosters since she has caught the covid, albeit twice. She has had some health issues develop since the vax. Like a cyst on a kidney, veritigo, and auto-immune disorders. She gets a little agitated when I mention stories I’ve read about health issues from the vax, even though I don’t point a finger at her own. With some people it has to be their own idea.
Another friend of mine has a daughter with 3 rare diseases. Two of those developed from the first disease she was diagnosed with, which the onset of the former two after her second child. A few years ago my friend mentioned his children always got the flu shot when they were growing up. Makes one wonder. We don’t talk politics either. He got the C-vax and boosters and recently had to have a heart valve replacement. Since that surgery he has had trouble with infection in his heart that won’t go away. He’s on a long round of antibiotics. His doc said sometimes that happens. Again, makes one wonder.
My elderly mother, who insisted on getting vaxxed and thrice boosted on her docs recommendations while ignoring my pleas, still caught the covid a couple months ago. Obviously it didn’t protect her. No hospital needed though she did test positive. I thank God she is over it and back to living her normal life. Doing my best to keep educating her to avoid another booster that her doc is again recommending. She got the shingles not long after the original vax, has other serious health issues pre-covid, and believes what her doc and the in-house pharmacist tell her in regards to it all. You still have to wear a mask in the office. I’m worried.
My mother and I did meet a very nice lady working in a little artsy shop last week and struck up a conversation. Turns out this gal has been a nurse for 20 years and left the medical field temporarily because she couldn’t in good conscience work the way the medical industry wanted anymore. She said it’s like they put patients on an assembly line in regards to individual care and that was not what she got into nursing for. She took a break just before covid hit and was grateful for her timing. Said the majority of her family refused the vax. And she, like me and most here, was alarmed at how fast they pushed it and best point was if a vaccine works like it should, then why need the boosters? She also said 5 of her friends have developed health issues since getting vaxxed. It was a blessing to find her that day and I just pray her words will stay with my mother. I’m very worried.
My elderly father has refused the vax for his own health reasons. He lives in different state and his doc has not pushed the vax on him. I am grateful for that and the fact that he questions everything by nature.
My mother in law died alone during covid with a positive test but no symptoms. She was 89 and in the last stages of Alzheimers. All facilities were on lockdown. The daily reports from the staff were no fever, no cough, no breathing difficulty. She just wanted to sleep. Her mind was tired. They wouldn’t let us see her unless it was her end. When they called to tell us she was going downhill she was gone within 10 minutes as we were rushing out the door. She deserved better than that. My husband deserved better than that. And I miss her. In the end it was just a check on a death certificate.
I’m still angry about the lockdowns. I’m angry some doctors have in-house pharmacists that appear to be taking the place of a real doctor’s visit and prescribing medications in a treatment plan without truly knowing the patient’s issues. I’m angry about the ingredients in a vaccine that has been hidden from us because they know that is just too ugly to look at. When the lockdowns and mandates started one nurse was telling me she knew of cancer patients that had to have surgeries postponed while planned parenthood stayed open across the street. She was angry too. I’m angry that people I love are being put at risk and lied to about what is good or bad for them. I’m angry about the control, the media, the lies, the censorship, the stupid doctors and staff that push it and have no desire to drive past the hood of their car.
One thing about this whole fiasco though. You learn something about a few friends that you never would have thought otherwise. You respect their intelligence through the years and then the covid comes along and divides us beyond just the lockdowns and the mask wearing. It’s not even a conversation you can have openly without hackles getting raised.
Thank you for the opportunity to share.
I didn’t take the covid-19 shot. I was threatened to get laid off if I didn’t get the vaccine, there was a deadline for all government contractors to get fully vaccinated, I searched for a lawyer that could help me and eventually I found a good lawyer and with their help I was able to avoid taking the vaccine and keep my job. My employer did everything they could to scare me, pressure me, and trip me up but I held out and after about a month of going back and forth with them they gave in and grant my exemption. I couldn’t afford to not have a job so it was a risk challenging authority but it was well worth it in the end.
Years ago I read part of the 1841 book, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds. That book has helped me avoid most manias. Avoided were investing in Dot Bombs, panic over medical manias and I debunked Y2K by changing the date on my computer to a date two years in to the future.
“They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.”
That right there is part of the reason I trust very few people. Not because they don’t know right from wrong, but because they are afraid, they are fearful little babies who still live in the 8th grade and don’t want Tiffany to talk bad about them behind their back. So they lie, they deceive, they give half the truth or none of it.
They couldn’t talk? I call a big BS to any of the Operation Warp Speed people who say that.
Oh I’m sure they said those words or something similar, Sundance, but their word confusion between couldn’t and wouldn’t is huge. They very much could have said something, but they would not, because of feeeelzzz and all.
So they helped push others who were on the edge in their decision of whether to take or not to the shot over the edge.
And as pitiful as that is, they can’t even blame someone else and say they were just following orders. They were just spineless jellyfish.
So why did I not take the shot?
I was a very sickly kid who almost died multiple times. I had Scarlet Fever, pneumonia a couple times, almost yearly tonsillitis/strep throat, ear infections (with one of my ear drums bursting in the 5th grade), and some illness where, when it was over, my mom looked me in the eyes and told me, ‘Remember, one day you will get Shingles.’ I remembered, mom.
As an adult I saw over and over again how the medical industry abused people I knew and loved. Lots of people.
And I saw as an old codger doctor who I’d gone to for infertility charge my insurance company for doing a laparoscopic check of my fallopian tubes to see if they were blocked, when he had done no such thing. He lied, charged my insurance, and they paid, and this happened before insurance companies sent patients a copy of what their doctor said they’d done.
So I have had little use for doctors, haven’t been to one in years, and have never, ever, had a flu shot — and nope, not a Shingles shot either.
The decision whether to take the wuflu poison or not was easy for me, since I was never going to take a “vaccination” for the flu, no matter what variation of flu it was.
Most of the people I am around have made the same choice. Family members who disowned us for supporting President Trump are the same people who decided to take the jab, so we didn’t lose any one over the shot question.
But as I wrote about a few times between November 8th, 2021 and July 3rd, 2022, when my dear friend, Anne, was in the hospital and eventually died of “covid” at the hands of “medical professionals,” we know that Anne was treated less than human while in the hospital — just because she did not want the jab.
Please recall that Congress and members of Congress were and are exempt from taking the vaccine. Federal Courts, Exempt. California teachers and staff, but not students, Exempt. Why was this? Other countries like France and New Zealand (and others) also exempted their political leaders. US Postal? Exempt! Pfizer workers, Exempt!
Let’s vaccinate the military, let’s vaccinate all the workers, let’s rants and rave about vaccines but let’s exempt ourselves. So many other interesting comments here but no one seems to mention this exemption issue which was one of the many many tells.
https://www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859
BTW we are not done with infections from Covid so please get your early treatment medication before symptoms and take upon first symptoms, wether it’s a cold, flu or COVID they are all viruses.
You can get HCQ and ivermectin from India, I’ve done it four times and it takes about three weeks. They don’t take credit cards, I used a 2nd checking account with only the amount for the meds up in the account. NO problems, they were honest to work with hence my personal recommendation. Get lots of extra, this isn’t going away. Worked the same on my flu, minor symptoms for 1 day. Go to the FLCCC website and get the protocol info for types and amount of meds.
https://www.alldaychemist.com/
I didn’t take the vaccine for many of the reasons discussed herein. Almost lost my job but I would not backdown. Fortunately I could have retired so there was no leverage other than I still wanted to make those last $’s before retiring.
Now that I retired 1 1/2 years later I am free: health, love partner and best friend wife, time, and money. One way tickets for travel to Europe (Portugal and Italy), return when I’m ready. Nice freedom, living my best life now, can’t be sure for how long before the WEF succeeds or fails.
God is our hope, keep praying we need God.
Sorry about the repete below, the edit was deemed too late.
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Needs to be in bold! 🙂
“Please recall that Congress and members of Congress were and are exempt from taking the vaccine. Federal Courts, Exempt. California teachers and staff, but not students, Exempt.Why was this? Other countries like France and New Zealand (and others) also exempted their political leaders. US Postal? Exempt! Pfizer workers, Exempt!”
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I saw the way President Trump looked at Dr. Faucci. And the others. The same look he gave Hillary Clinton and others who had committed unmentionable crimes against humanity. That was all I needed, but I was already on alert and digging, seeing videos come across my feed about the mrna. Did I lose friends? In a half-ass way. Cowards, and just an excuse to create more distance from a Trump supporter and someone calling out corruption and posting truth. Some friends who said yes got sick, some are ok, and I believe there were some deaths in my circle that weren’t labeled. Some travel all over and enter relationships but are “too afraid” to see me. As for medically, I learned quickly that my doctors and I are NOT partners in anything, that they provide me a service, and I am not beholden to them, or under their domain, and any questions I ask get me canned answers that fit their protocol. I’m 67 years old and have been “watching” and doing my own research for years, with some trial and error (honesty) and have put off a few “preventative” procedures or exams and try to leave the fear porn behind but so far the doctor provides me tools I need to monitor important issues. They do hound me by phone though, which makes me dig my heels in deeper. My immediate family in my house are not jabbed, nor my brother, a Vietnam veteran. Many I know who got other jabs got sick too- shingles, that’s a biggie that was pushed, and the pneumonia jab, given to my brother unauthorized while he was delirious sick in a public hospital almost put him down. Life is a big football game, defensive, offensive and tackle. If we make it, consider it a touchdown for the winning side.
Where to start in answer to the question, “So, you did not take the Covid-19 shot, why not?”
Some of you on this blog are already familiar with the short version – I am a former employee of the Commonwealth of MA, terminated for refusing to get vaccinated, (or obtain an exemption) in violation of (former) Gov. Charlie Baker’s executive order.
Beginning at the beginning, I was floored, angry, in shock, at the initial recommendation of “15 days to slow the spread” and all that entailed – business, school, and church closures, and designations of “essential” and “nonessential” businesses and workers. Never would I have dreamed in my 60 years on this earth, in the US of A of all places, that anything of the sort would ever even be suggested in “The Land of the Free.”
How I felt at the very beginning set the stage for how I ultimately arrived at the decision to not ever take the Covid shot. So many things just did not add up that I’ve probably forgotten many of them at this point.
Wish that I had kept a journal of all the inconsistencies, outright lies, gaslighting, and propaganda to which we were all subject, myself even more so than many as a state worker in a healthcare environment– getting a constant, steady stream of emails (several, daily) from all the “higher ups” urging vaccination.
Regarding the daily email bombardment, I VERY MUCH NOTICED that NOT A ONE of these emails EVER spoke to what specific actions a person could take (besides so-called vaccination) to help build one’s immune system. (I worked in healthcare!). At the time, it was already well known, by people such as we here on this blog – who do not blindly believe directives blasted out by the media and government – that Vitamin D deficiency for example, along with age and several comorbidities – were THE prime factors for dying of Covid-19.
The more the bureaucracy at work pushed to “get vaccinated”, the angrier and more resistant I became – what was this constant and continuous refrain to “get vaccinated” heard across all media, daily at work, and spouted by government “health” and other officials?
Why would the vaccinated have to worry about the unvaccinated infecting them? Wasn’t the PURPOSE OF VACCINATION to protect oneself against CONTRACTING SAID VIRUS? So, vaccination was not doing what it was supposed to do? Why was the definition of vaccination revised several times? I was the crazy one for noting things did not make sense, were not adding up?
Being in healthcare, in early January 2021, we were offered the shot – I still have the text I received from my supervisor asking if I wanted the “vaccination” – as she needed a count and I was off that day. I declined – said “I am going to pass at this time.” At that point, a year into things, I had long before become very skeptical of, and resistant to, any Covid measures.
Why were only big businesses, along with “select” small businesses allowed to be open? Oh, that’s right – essential – such as liquor stores, where apparently one could not catch the virus, but a small business of another type – nope.
Why were gyms and playgrounds and basketball courts closed – didn’t we want people to be healthy after all? Why were people encouraged to STAY IN THEIR HOMES rather than get out in the fresh air? Being out in the fresh air has always been understood to be a good thing for one’s health.
If masks were “protecting”, by supposedly “catching” and filtering out the “deadly” virus, why were they simply disposed of in the regular trash? Shouldn’t masks have been disposed of in biohazard containers? Did anything make sense? Not to me.
Why were arrows placed on the floor of the supermarkets so that everyone would proceed down the aisles to avoid coming face to face with another person from the opposite direction – when everyone was wearing a mask? If the masks were protective……….why would that matter? Didn’t that contradict the “received wisdom? “
Why did Fauci the fraud reverse and contradict himself on an almost daily basis? That in and of itself (never mind everything else to come) was enough for me to disbelieve and question everything having to do with Covid.
Why were the media and government “officials” apoplectic, in opposition, LOOSING THEIR MINDS, (recall Neil Cavuto, among others – “do not take HCQ! You will die!”) over President Trump’s suggestion that HCQ was showing promise, and that he had obtained a substantial stockpile from India? A drug with a 65- year safety record?
At the time, I had (and still have) a 2005 NIH (Fauci) document, summarizing an earlier SARS/COVID type virus in which the benefits of HCQ as a – paraphrasing, “significant and effective inhibitor” of the condition. And so now, simply because President Trump was advocating for its use, HCQ was being DEMONIZED?
Continuing regarding my work environment, a week after being offered the vaccine, I got Covid – it was spreading all over my hospital – as an “essential worker” I saw that none of us working at the hospital, to be blunt, were dying from this virus.
And here’s something to think about – as mentioned, I had Covid in January 21. At the time we were all being tested weekly. Once I had Covid, I was made exempt from weekly testing as it was understood at the time – per CDC! – because my workplace was “following the science” after all – that I had immunity for at least six months. So then why did I “need a vaccine’?
Speaking of immunity – why did the concept of Natural Immunity – something noted and accepted for hundreds, if not thousands of years – suddenly become “MEMORY HOLED” and discounted as HERETICAL THINKING?
In conclusion, after working since March 2020 as a designated “essential worker”, in August of 2021, now former Gov. Baker of MA issued executive order # 595 directing that all Commonwealth of MA employees be vaccinated or receive an exemption to vaccination, by October of 2021.
The executive order itself is not only full of questionable statements at best – offered as confirmation of the decision, but also proffers that continued vaccination – if recommended by the “health authorities” will be required as well.
This was the last straw for me – I have a somewhat rebellious and defiant nature to begin with – and this, FORCED VACCINATION – AS A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT, was a bridge too far.
Additionally, somewhere along this timeline, I also became aware that aborted fetal cells were used in various capacities in either the testing or production of all the available vaccines and combined with a directive to be vaccinated or fired, I was more than done!
I did submit a religious exemption request – it was acknowledged that I “successfully demonstrated my sincerely held religious beliefs”, “but accommodation could not be made as it would constitute an “undue hardship” on the employer” – sure.
Why did I not get vaccinated? For ALL OF THE reasons mentioned, and those forgotten, and for all the lies and propaganda inflicted on We the People.
I had Covid before anyone ever heard of it. Like a flu with a terrible cough. I also lost my taste and smell. I was around my young grandchildren very frequently, and they never got sick.
When the WHO declared a pandemic and people were cleaning out grocery stores, i couldn’t believe the overreaction I couldn’t wrap my head around the disproportionate reaction of so many formerly sane people. I ignored most of the mandates when I could, and just went about my business. I also had many confrontations with the mask Karens. The whole thing made me insanely furious.
I can’t explain why I didn’t (and don’t) believe Dr. Mengele or Birx, but I just didn’t. I will never trust most doctors, scientists, politicians and, especially, the media. They’re all complicit in this crime against humanity.
I have never had a flu shot let alone the “jab” – it is a lie that it is a vaccination – IT IS NOT. Definition of a vacc is one shot you cant get it and cannot spread it. I tell everyone I have not had the jab. I am not intimidated and ready to do battle. Have not lost any friends. I am sad tho as I am seeing the terrible side effects it is causing. Every day you read about all ages dying in their sleep, rubber clots, cancer. I personally know numerous people who have been affected. I have not been sick for 5+ years and 19 years prior to that. Big Pharma, Med Assoc, politicians, globalists are EVIL CORRUPT LYING PIECES OF GARBAGE. Thanks
Saw someone here do a song parody about the shot .. So heres mine .. This is Grace Slick protesting jabbing toddlers
One shot gives you heartburn
And one shot has glycol
And the ones Moderna gives you
Dont do anything at all
So vaxx Alice, when shes 2 foot tall
And if you go jabbing infants
And your zealotry does appal
Tell a moppet sniffing PedoPOTUS
Has given you the call
To vaxx Alice, fore she learn to crawl
When men in the Red States
Tell you to ‘eff off and go home
And you just spun some kind of BS
And your streed cred is low
Go vaxx Alice, she wont even know
When logic and young athletes
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the Scarf Queen is talking assward
And the Biden is off his meds
Remember what the Fauc Rat taught
Get the shot!
Get the shot!
Get the shot!
That’s actually pretty good! Excellent even!
That is great! Just sang it to my husband at full volume. Choked us up.
When Covid first hit, I was in silicon valley at what eventually turned into ground zero-ish. Everyone there had been sick for a week with what we later confirmed was Covid. None of them were hospitalized, they were all healthy people. Five days later, I was sick as well. Same symptoms. I studied everything I could about Corona virus’. I found a blog by a person who worked in a bio-lab discussing how they take a cocktail of zinc et-al in case they have an exposure to Corona virus’. I made up the same regimen and in about 10 days I was over it.
I’m high risk, having survived Cancer and some other things, so I figured if I could make it through, most healthy people would have no problems. My family all got it as well, thanks to me. Covid-Toes etc. for the kids. Spouse was a sniffly nose for 2-3 days and a dry cough for a few more, then cured. Vax came out, figured we didn’t need it, as we would have some form of immunity, just like all the high-powered Docs were advocating. You know, the ones who had their licenses threatened and might have done some jail time..
All the local hospitals and doctors were useless. They were intubating people left and right, screaming every night on the news that the virus was probably 80% fatal, then they closed all the local doctors offices and the only medical treatment you could get was at the E.R. but if you had any symptoms at all, you would be sent to the Covid Ward, via force, if necessary. The local municipality had local law enforcement there rounding up anyone that tried to leave and either threatening them with jail or with forced quarantine via the health district that would make phone calls daily to ensure you weren’t traveling out of your home.
By that time, the lockdowns were in full force and people were starting to be threatened with Felony prosecutions for breaking quarantine. They tried to shut down the gas stations, but that didn’t work. Then they shut down everything they could get away with, until the legal battles started up. Then came to orders that they would forcefully vaccinate anyone that worked in Government or Healthcare as soon as it was available. By then, the second variant had come around and we dodged that one, even though we were exposed multiple times.
Phone calls from concerned family started to mount up and the pressure was on to tell us how we should stop listening to the people who work in the field of bio-research and epidemiology and start listening to MSNBC et-al because the virus was so deadly, only 20% of the population might survive.
This is when my B.S. Meter pegged out. By that time I’d known at least 30 pe0ple who had gotten Covid and they all had lesser symptoms than I did. Then came Delta. Yes, we all got it again, but it wasn’t that bad. Two or Three days of fever and feeling bad, then a cough that lasted a week, for those that didn’t take the Ivermectin I was able to procure.
I took care of everyone in the family for a couple of weeks before it ran me down and caught me, took my Vitamin I with my zinc et-al protocol and despite the immune system dysfunction, I was over it in three days, with a lingering cough that lasted about a week.
Afterward, I got the antibody test which reacted so fast the drop was barely into the paper before it was showing positive. By then, I knew I had beaten it at least twice and I tried to get the advanced immunity testing done so I could avoid the forced Vax that was coming at the order of our Fearless Leader politicians. Unfortunately, by executive order, the Governor and the Health Czar shut down all the testing centers before I could get that done. That was also when the Governor prohibited the dispensation of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine via any licensed pharmacy, veterinary clinic or supply store.
Within a few weeks of shutting off the alternative treatments, death rates went up and hospitals that had been emptying out slowly, were overrun. That is when I knew this was being done on purpose. You don’t outlaw the treatment that people can get over the counter, when there is no foul play involved. Especially, not when we knew the Governor took the very drugs he outlawed, thanks to a whistleblower.
Then came the orders for forced Vaccinations. The first day of the forced shots, several local healthcare providers had severe anaphylactic reactions to the Vax. One of them died a few days later. That was the end for me even considering taking the shot.
Within weeks, my reservations were being supported. Multiple people we knew went down and got the shot. All of them had some problem afterward. Most were mild, some were pretty bad and quite a few of them were bad. Several of them are dead now. Most of the rest of them have some sort of health problem that cropped up within a few months that was “sudden onset”. Everything from Cancer, to Heart Attacks, Asthma, Shingles, multiple strokes, especially in young people and several sudden deaths of vaccinated family members, mostly men.
Then came the family and friend pressure from all the CNN believers who had college degrees. A couple of them said we could be held liable for child neglect if we didn’t get our kids vaccinated. None of them threatened to turn us in, but there was a lot of pressure. We resisted. All of them that took the shot and all the boosters are now having health problems. A couple of them now have debilitating auto-immune diseases. Their poor kids are also having health problems.
Our kids also have a lot of friends who are not as healthy as they once were. The parents will rarely discuss these things with us, now that it is going public about all the harm from the shots, they are getting more open, but they still blame Covid, not the shot.
We did our best to warn them. Talked to them ad-nauseum about the contents of the shots, the clinical trials that were stopped because of side-effects etc. Almost without exception, they did not want to hear any of it. They treated us like Lepers once they found out we weren’t vaccinated, no matter 20, 30, 40 year friendships…
Then came the studies out of Europe, Australia, New Zealand etc. Deaths up, disease up, hospitals full of vaccinated people. Due to the stigma around the whole issue, we still don’t talk much about it in public. Now that the vaxxed are getting sick and so many of them are dying, people are angry. Some still blame the unvaxxed for the pandemic, even though they have had all their boosters and still catch Covid, sometimes more than us unvaxxed do.
Now that Fauci et-al are disappearing from the public eye and the truth is coming out, you would think people might be less judgemental about those that chose not to get the shot. You would be wrong. Media is full of Vax ads everyday. YouTube, mainstream media etc. still run ads every commercial break about getting your clot-shot booster. The local news is still pumping out the addresses for shot locations, even though they also run clips about all the vaccine being thrown away because the Neanderthal’s like me, among our society, refuse to get their fair portion of the poison-pill that the rulers would like us to take.
I feel sorry for those that took the shots. I really do. Many of them were duped. Many more, were forced. Time will tell how many of them live long enough or keep enough health to participate in the lawsuits that will undoubtedly be forthcoming. Hopefully it is a lot of them, but with all the sudden deaths of athletes and the skyrocketing cancer rates that the Oncology Center is reporting, I’m a little more than concerned for their futures.
With all that, I am thankful every day that I was able to find information online that kept me from being caught up in this mass poisoning of our societies. Thankful for smart people who shared information with me and for the true medical professionals who answered questions about dosage and side effects for our home-grown treatment plans that have allowed us to build an immunity to the latest variants that has kept us healthy, despite working around people that were testing positive for Covid almost every week. I am especially thankful for the health my children have, that was not robbed from them by the Schills for Big-Pharma and the Totalitarian Police State we are just beginning to emerge from.
I did not get the shot because there was never an adequate case made for getting the shot in most instances, and when government entities started threatening me if I didn’t get the shot, I smelled a rat.
The revelation that the shot might be more deadly than the virus is exactly the sort of thing I expected.
Well, well, well….who out there has the Prevnar Pneumonia shot? Guess who makes it?
Pfizer. If this site is correct.
https://www.medicomart.com/manufacturer/64/pfizer
I found this, too, interesting:
https://www.trilinkbiotech.com/custom-mrna-synthesis
or this, ‘transformative medicine’ marketing concept….https://www.modernatx.com/power-of-mrna/science-of-mrna?tc=ps_wjmzlrb&cc=1001&gclsrc=aw.ds
The quality of this site and its commenters never ceases to amaze me.
Thank you (from the UK).
I did not get the cv19 shot. Since I have had all of the childhood diseases (without vaccines, except smallpox and polio) I decided my immune system was well seasoned to handle the covid. I have only had the flu once and one flu shot (10 years apart) in 60 plus years. I joined the vaxcontrolgroup and reported monthly. I did take Quercitin weekly as a booster.
I did not take the vax because I got Ralph Baric’s Virus in 2018. That is correct 2018 a YEAR earlier when I visited the UNC hospital ER a 1000 ft from his lab. My friend and I became ill. I ended up with long haulers and she ended up with convulsions/epilepsy. Mine cleared thanks to Moxidectin remaining on my skin for several hours while I was worming goats. Moxidectin is similar to ivermectin. I then got Delta which clear in less than 36 hours.
Why would I want to take an experimental drug when I HAD natural immunity that was working just fine. Also I eat a lot of beef (zinc) drink green tea as my beverage of choice (zinc Ionophore) and take vitamins, C, D, E, and selenium to fight cancer and have for decades.
Why did I not take it?
I am so out of sync with the rest of humanity that all I can do is ghost in place and protect my own. More than ninety percent of the people at my workplace have taken the poison. A benefit of the last couple of years is that I now know that there are others with a backbone in my community. Perhaps, after the culling, a better kind of civilization can be fought for by more ruthlessly honest men.
Like many others here my main reason for not taking the vax was that gut feeling that something just wasn’t right. Early on in the scamdemic I was running the numbers almost every day. Number of cases/infected and fatalities. The numbers just weren’t backing up the hysteria around c-19. Numbers don’t lie and they kept saying that c-19 wasn’t any more lethal than any other virus I had encountered in my lifetime.
Once the vax came out I was pretty much already decided I didn’t need it. Then once the promotion machine started up it was clear to me the vax was being pushed very hard and it wasn’t for our health. FFS they were bribing people to take the thing with all sorts of promotions. If a thing provides such good protection against something that will almost certainly kill you it wouldn’t be necessary to bribe people to take it. Things just weren’t adding up. Luckily I am self employed so I didn’t have to endure the pressure from an employer.
Initially my wife wasn’t on board with it either. She works in multiple nursing homes and there was very heavy pressure from her employers and colleagues to get the vax. She is a very caring person and I believe she thought she was mostly doing it for the many elderly people she works with. She’s also a very go along to get along person. Instead of standing up and maybe causing a bit of a scene she ultimately fell in line. She now sees that the vax did nothing and she won’t be getting any boosters.
Once my wife told me she had gotten the vax I knew for sure I would never be getting it. We have two young kids and I was absolutely not going to put both my wife and I in the same boat with the vax/corona. Everything around the whole thing was just too suspicious. Whether I was ultimately right or wrong about the vax I was doing what I thought would be the best for our kids.
I had COVID in December 2020. Halfway through, I had a stroke. The experience I had at the hospital was horrible. They would not let anyone in to be with me, and that was hard. But the weirdest thing was I was in ICU for two days, and nothing was happening. When I was transferred to a room, we went down halls of rooms with nobody in them.
All during my stay, the nurses were in full body gear. I asked them how many people were in the hospital. Oh a lot, they said. All during the night, it sounded like they were partying outside my room.
Long story short, I’m ok, but my GP is still pushing the shot, and my neurologist told me No..don’t get it. She no longer practices.
Before the stroke, I never considered getting the vax, as my husband felt the same, but was also pressured. Almost my whole family, including my grandkids have gotten it, despite my research. I pray they will be ok. My brother in law died of COVID when they sent him home, and later when he came back to the hospital, put him on a ventilator.
Needless to say, am grateful I have no consequences from my stroke, but am so worried for my family and friends. Thank you Sundance, for letting us say what we have not been able to say anywhere else
I am early ’70s…I was viciously ran down from the rear as a pedestrian by an illegal mexican driving 75mph. My brains spilled out of my my open skull and I was to find out within a few months that the case of my pancreas was cracked open and after months of pancreatic enzymes attacking my other organs. When they found the underlying problem, they added me to the newly created pancreatic transplant list. I thought about while spending months in-hospital and told them to get me off of their experimental list. I had my wife jump through the hoops to get me discharged and never looked back. I was in every way the ‘At Risk’ person…but…NO JAB THEN, NO JAB EVER! for me and my large mountain family.
Let the officious bastards show up here on my door-stop…I am not done yet!
I was a nurse then and started doing research on Covid from the start. What was the red flag for me? It was when I read some of the first articles by Dr. Mercola in May of 2020, that said these things were going to sterilize folks – men and women – and he explained how – in simple and easy to understand language. And those very same articles disappeared off the internet within 48 hours. I took the hint. Refused the mandates and got out of the medical profession.
Wow! What a response! I am responding as a healthcare provider, LPN, RRT, (retired) and EMT. We on the front line of the pandemic, were persuaded that this was what we should do,,. get vaccinated. We didn’t have the foresight to see what was coming, we just were persuaded that to stop the spread, be able to provide healthcare to our patients, and treat the sick, that this was important. Now I am very sorry I did get the shots (2) and I am so very worried for my 6 grandkids; whose parents are VERY pro-vax, about their future health. I have seen 1 granddaughter get sick practically every month with various ‘flu’ episodes, even PERTUSSIS!. (for which she was also vaccinated). But hindsight is 20/20.
There are definitely medical snow jobs.
When AIDS first appeared, we in ICU, didn’t know what this thing happening before our eyes was: men with mottled legs, hyperbaric treatment, amputations, rapid deaths.
Then the info from the Infectious Disease Guru:
it was a new virus, but only infected homosexual men.
After lecture, I approached the MD speaker & asked if he was actually saying that a virus knew a person’s gender & sexual relationships.
We never spoke again.
As a physician, when he wrote orders for patients, I carried them out, & as always, weighed their rationale as part of my job.
I did not get the vaccine. Modern insulin comes from a GMO, developed in the 80s. I wrote a college paper about using this technology as a terrorist weapon in 1986. I never thought it would come true, especially from our own government.
I’m a CT (conspiracy theorist) from way back. Started questioning government around 2001 after 911. It was waaaay too obvious that the jab was a SCAM of the highest order. In fact the WEFs plan was suppose to start in 2010 but was delayed until 2020 (for reasons I don’t know but probably could guess)