I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

The real question is. “you took the mRNA shot, what next?” What can be done to protect yourself, if anything.
Remember J&J’s dead vector shot has none of the same health problems, although it was just as ineffective as the mRNA shot. And for some reason, the government tried to trash the J&J shot at the time and tell people if they took it, they still had to get the mRNA booster shot. I would guess it just wasn’t deadly enough!
Jocko, I am sorry you have been misinformed on the J&J shot. While you are right it does not use nano lipid particles to deliver mRNA it does use a modified adenovirus to deliver the Spike protein instructions via the viral DNA. End result is your body makes spike proteins at the cellular level just like the mRNA vaccines.
It also sadly has tremendous complications. The whole idea that it was somehow safer or unlike the others was not actual fact but part of a marketing campaign built to
deceive.
Marketing campaign by whom? The government basically poo poo’d J&J from the beginning. I guess they didn’t pay the right politicians. So I know it wasn’t them. J&J had limited advertising and it’s all but disappeared after like 14 pre-menopausal women had blood clots. How many thousands of women had issues with the mRna vaccines?
Can’t prove this, but I do believe the J&J is in fact “unlike the others.” When I went to get a booster in 2021, a HUGE sign was placed on my windshield that I wanted only the J&J. When I pulled up in line at the jab station, the nurse/attendant went WAY over to the back of her tent to get the syringe. The J&J was obviously kept separately from the Moderna and Pfizer. Could have been a storage/refrigeration issue, but maybe not. (Asked her why but just got an I-don’t-know shrug in reply…)
I’m in Western Washington. It’s also interesting that the many times the initial shots and then boosters were available, usually at public transit park-and-rides, the J&J was completely unavailable. Not “sold out,” so to speak. Just plain unavailable.
Last, when I sometimes visited that web site showing injury stats, the J&J batches seemed the have far less reported injuries than its competitors.
NOT a vaccine proponent here. Just a few subjective observations on how the J&J was treated differently. I truly hope it was, because that’s the one I got.
Availability, or lack there of, was most likely based on production and contract demand. The government simply purchased more of the mRNA vaccines, likely because NIH has several patents and some staff receive financial incentives.
If it makes you feel better then keep believing it is different. Just realize that is a belief and not fact. The facts are it is a DNA based vaccine with an adenovirus vector that instructs your cells to produce spike proteins. Any discussion about it being a safer alternative or suggesting it as a traditional vaccine is false.
It was and remains EUA like all the other COVID vaccines on the market. All built on deception.
Sundance,
Over the past 3 years as I’ve watched events unfold I’ve told many people that this must have all been planned by the devil himself. The power and infamy gathered by others during the course of these events eminates straight from the source. I’ll admit I gave many who participated to establish the ruse the benefit of the doubt during the fog laced reality from March until May 2020, including those I know in my local government administration who were just “following the protocols”. Due to the nature of the ruse my unwarranted benevolent attitude made me a little slow to come to grips with what was happening. As I mentioned in previous comment, the global response to the George Floyd story in May to June 2020 is what convinced me that the intent behind the evil I was witnessing was much more than a virus and was being carried out at least via opportunity and at worst via coordination.
Of all the evil seen over these past 3 years, the mandates of medical protocols like Remdesivir with intubation along with compulsory injection of experimental drugs are some of the worst things I have seen in my lifetime. Our Nation and societies around the world will not heal from this evil until a reckoning with the facts occurs. We need a Nuremburg 2.0, which will reveal if it was mere opportunism or if it has been a coordinated attack. Truth will always be victorious over lies.
Thank you for providing this site.
I’m not antivax. My kids have their typical shots. I don’t recall getting a flu shot as an adult, but my wife and kids occasionally do. They typically get more sick then I do. In regard to the Covid shot, I saw no real need to get it. I followed things as best as I could. I was training for my first full Ironman, and was in some of the best shape of my life. Ironically, Super Bowl Sunday of 2020 I was swimming in the morning and had a very fast heartbeat which made me stop for several minutes. I thought it was going to rip out of my chest. I ended up finishing my 2500 yards and was fine. After telling my wife and thinking about a friend who died in his 40’s on a soccer field from a heart attack, as well as knowing both my parents had quadruple bypass, I went to the ER. They didn’t really find much, and gave me some papers about SVT. I haven’t had an issue since then, but it’s obviously on my mind at times. Once I heard about issues surrounding the heart from the vaccine, I decided it was definitely something not to get. I also believe I fully decided not to get the vaccine after my parents both got Covid and we’re just fine. They both were poster kids for dying from it based on the information out there. Unfortunately, my dad for some reason got the vaccine a few months later, and in about 6 weeks, died of a massive heart attack. He health was bad, but I’d guess he’d still be here if it weren’t for the shot. I believe the vaccine could help some, but for myself and my kids, I was nowhere close to being compelled to get vaccinated. I believe many older people died due to the shot, and we will never know. So many things done from politicians and “experts” that just didn’t add up and were sketchy. I fully believe I made the correct choice for me and my kids.
” I’m not antivax.”
No need to offer an apology, or justification for your opinion.
I see people buying into this tactic all the time,
I’m not antivax, racist, a nazi, etc but……
You don’t need to qualify your opinions.
Realize it and stop doing it.
By the way, I am antivax, anti pharma and anti government.
Have been for decades.
God didn’t respectfully and wonderfully create us with a need for that trash.
In a fallen world he ensured there would be natural remedies.
God is not who wants you to be an addict with mental fog and chaos so that you have no clue what is going on.
First reason I did not take the vaccine was and continues to be the fact that that I am not a slave. Politicians, my employer, and law enforcement do not own me.
Second reason was because it was rushed through approvals to human use and no one had any legal liability. Politicians, government bureaucrats and police have absolute/qualified immunity and the drug companies could not be sued if the drugs hurt anyone. There was and continues to be no accountability.
Third reason I did not take it was because there were exceptions to the vaccine mandate for government employees and other groups. If the virus was truly deadly for all demographics, there would be no exceptions.
Fourth reason, there was no proof the politicians/bureaucrats/drug company employees were actually taking it vs if they were being administered a placebo in photo and TV appearances.
BTW, I ended up getting covid and was over it in 3 days. Bad headache the first day which was the worst of it. A little cough which went away after 3 days.
The Republic is lost and the only way it will ever be restored is through collapse or revolution. We are not voting our way out of it. Prepare accordingly.
I did not take the Covid-19 Shot due to the fact that the survival rate from catching Covid was 99.6 percent. But the ” Vaccines ” were yet to be proven to work. Why take something experimental that you will probably survive from anyway?
Bingo! Same reason for me.
Also, when fauci said masks are ineffective and then I saw him wearing one the size of a catcher’s mitt when standing behind President Trump I knew there was a scam afoot.
I viewed everything through an untrusting lens so it was easier not to take the bait. I am still amazed at the level of effort going into gaslighting everyone.
Did not take the vaccine because I believe in treatment first then prevention second. Governments threatening citizens with losing jobs and being marginalized in society – made many of us wary of these ‘radical untested’ mRNA vaccines. They were unlike normal vaccines which undergo exhaustive short term and long term testing to perfect them. The final straw was the banning of hydroxychloroquine and the disparaging CDC attitude to Ivermectin. Both have been around for years and were extremely effective in relation to the infections prescribed by doctors and medical experts. Why ban them if they worked? They have been safely used for decades. Moreover, why threaten doctors with losing their licence as a result of prescribing them? None of it made sense, if governments were genuinely concerned about our welfare. .
I took the jab for a variety of reasons, but most of all because I have a sick relative that I thought was going to need to have me physically present to help his wife with his care–both are elderly with no children. I wasn’t afraid of the technology of the mRNA drugs because I’m participating in a clinical trial of a drug that uses that mode of treatment for delivery and I’ve not had any issues (other than to see that the drug works as advertised). I got only one booster and my primary care doctor said that with my medical history, no more boosters–we tested for my antibodies and found both types present.
I always was skeptical of the government’s pronouncements about the disease and living in NY, saw the way that Graham and The Comfort were basically ignored despite the “sky is falling” daily dog and pony show put on by Cuomo; his replacement, is just as bad, if not worse; but no more Kool-Aid for me.
BTW, Covid hit my household in December of 2019, before any of us had ever heard of Wuhan. If you count the known (and unknown) variants in the days since, I’ve had it 3 times and I’m going to live my best life for as long as He gives me breath.
The propaganda line of “if you don’t get the jab(s), you’re going to infect your ill LOVED ones” FOOLED most folks hook, line, and sinker.
First off—ASYMPTOMATIC spread in UTTER NONSENSE!!
Second, if you’re not feeling well—-STAY HOME—have someone else care for your sick relative!!
Third—-you are ALTERING you’re GOD given body by injecting mRNA gene drugs into it!!!
Please STOP!!!
As have many other informed citizens here, wrote long and well of this yesterday. Thank you, Sundance, for the opportunity to do so.
Briefly, from the outset is seemed overblown, exaggerated. The ring of truth wasn’t there, something ‘not right’ about it.
Pandemic? A pandemic is when you look out your window to see morgue wagons up and down the street, picking up the dead. It’s when half your family and friends die. This was no ‘pandemic.’ This was a leftist psyop.
Upon seeing little megalomaniac fauci on the podium with President Trump, chin thrust skyward, sleepy eyes, nose in the air, instinct said, ‘who is this little creep and why is President Trump allowing him on the podium with him?”
From that point forward, valiant radio reporters such as Jon Rappoport, Alex Jones, and others and relentless websites such as Treehouse among others, corroborated instinct: this was a hoax, a commie psyop to destroy Trump, wreck his economy, and incite what Drs. Malone and McCullough describe as ‘mass psychotic delusion’ to terrorize and dominate us.
This is exactly the kind of bullshit that pisses me off .People were lied to by MSM SM and US GOVT CDC NIH WHO DOD HLS. It’s easy to fool people its very hard for them to accept them been fooled….. 24/7 on the TV brainwashing and propaganda …Liars for $$$$ Moderna CEO got a 900 million $ bonus on 11 billion in profits and quietly retired says it all to me.
We need a Nuremberg 2.0, but instead all we get is Davos.
As if oft said here, ‘Those that don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.’
Firstly, research the VICP ( Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ) That was passed in the law by the uni-party Back in 1985. This established the vaccine courts at taxpayer expense. YTD they have paid out somewhere around $5-6 BILLION to victims of ‘vaccines.’ By Big Pharma. They award judgements and blow through Their allotted funding within the first 3 to 4 months of every year and it’s been this way for decades. Apparently the vaccine arms of the pharmaceutical companies were on the verge of bankruptcy up till this point. And once again our illustrious politicians on both sides saved them.
Secondly, the Tuskegee Syphillis Experiments which took place from 1942 to 1974 were conducted by the DOD and the CDC in Alabama. They intentionally injected about 400 young black men and women to study the effects of said disease. The governor promised, “the shots are for your health, you’ll get free healthcare they’ll keep you safe from disease.” NOONE was ever prosecuted/went to jail but many settlements were paid out. If they say 400 people took the syphilis injections then more than likely over a few thousand people probably died from getting infected from these individuals as well unknowingly.
Thirdly, the Thalidomide babies in the 50s? Pregnant women were given a drug that was promised to be safe by big Pharma for depression during pregnancy and it gave the babies feet severe deformity’s, basically made them look like flippers. Between 50 and 100,000 babies were affected worldwide. These are the first of many reasons why I did not nor my immediate family didn’t take the ‘experimental’ injection. Also why I will NEVER take a vaccine again.
D3 C with zinc and quercetin ..Diet exercise and sleep lots of water and you survive. No one talks much about healthy lifestyles.. It has served me well.. From a boomer.
Absolutely
No shot
I take quercetin, D3 Zinc weekly and add NAC to my diet as a preventative.
Just turned 80 and hope to die healthy
To see the Klaus Schwab’s ‘manufactured crisis’ blueprint, try to watch ‘Architects of Fear’, an Outer Limits episode from 1963/64.
It’s prophetic, outrageous, heartbreaking and touching. ‘Scientists’ fearful of nuclear war surgically transform a volunteer into a monstrous space alien. They plan to land his spaceship in front of the UN. He will emerge to terrify world leaders into stopping their wars.
But as always, things go wrong, and the tragic folly of trying to manipulate the public is made manifest.
Nope, didn’t take it. Why? By the time it came out it was clear the chi-com flu wasn’t much of a threat to me. Combine that with my general skepticism and /or a wait and see attitude for all things new, I didn’t early adopt. As facts came out, well, lets put it this way, it only made clear the cost-benefit for the mRNA BS was more cost than benefit.
I supported Goldwater, Reagan, Buchanan, RonPaul, and Trump… I take pride in my critical thinking skills…😏
My wife and I are in our 70’s. We were skeptical from the beginning. Partly just innate bloody mindedness and partly info from the web as we had cut the cord years ago. The rate of death was not anywhere near a pandemic level and most that died were compromised by bad diets, institutional diets, obesity, or other. I was an enviro manager / consultant to industry so knew global warming was a lie. Also my wife has Parkinson’s and after having done research on it and how pharma has taken advantage of that re: adding carbidopa to L-dopa (a natural substance that was not patentable) to make levadopa, a perscription only drug, with severe downside to you from the carbidopa. We were not antivax but did not get the flu vax over the years simply because we knew it did not work. Rarely sick due to the consumption of non-processed foods, no seed oils and supplementation of vitamins, especially D3 . But I think it was the induced bloody mindedness from experiencing the “elites” screw up our government, science and education over the lat 20 years or so that was the major reason.
Great topic as I believe in my heart the “vaccine” is far more deadly than Coivd. I was working for a medium sized health system and we did see th hig numbers of inpatients. many on our clinic staff were very afraid in the early days (and some CNN watchers still are). As time went by I realized that the hype and the push to take the jab was way out of proportion to the risk. Since 9/11 I have not trusted the motives of my government and the education I recieved on CTH and other venues just proved the nefarious intentions of the folks from the WEF who run western society.
My wife likes to “live in her box” and has a bit of a naive attitude. She took the Pfizer (because it was mandated for healthcare workers) and three days later had to have her appendix removed (emergency surgery). My boss also got Pfizer and had the same results!
Keeping my job depended on me getting the shot.
This still has not been overturned in court
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/FAQ-Health-Care-Worker-Vaccine-Requirement.aspx
I took the damn J&J (singe shot) one day before I was to be fired; straight up economic extortion. With a family to feed and my shaken faith in mankind, I felt like there was nowhere I could work. Did A lot a of praying and decided I had no choice.
My immune system has been crap ever since. 30 years as a paramedic I never feared infectious disease. I think the shot is designed to kill, so the WEF can lower the nubers of SS recipients and worthless eaters…
Check out Robert Malone https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/
No shot for me, it was way to sketchy from the get go. Suspicious Cat anyone?
My biggest concern from all this over the last few years is how many people and how fast that just fell in line. I was ready for about 80% to tell them to piss off, and boy was I wrong.
I had little faith in most insitutions of any kind and now I have NONE. I guess I should thank them for that. Shredding the last threads of the vail away.
As a custodian at a large retail mall, my company required the injections. I filed papers for an exemption medical & religious. They did terminate a few refusers and mandated that new hires prove they were clot-shotted. I was in limbo and tested negative weekly at work. Masks mandatory. After awhile the injections were not required but recommended, and masks became optional. I never received a reply on my exemption request. I just knew the shots would be bad for me, partly because I nearly went into liver failure while taking statin (cholesterol) drugs. I believe that to have a healthy immune system it needs to be exercised, which is why I, at a very advanced age, continue to be a custodian, a very physical job where I clean public toilets, bathrooms and spills, lift and push heavy objects daily, and get paid for exercising my body and my immune system. I asked my doctor for a prescription for Ivermectin and she asked me if I was a horse. I told her I knew she was going to say that, and mentioned the success that India and other countries had with HQC and Ivermectin. She scoffed and said that those were lies. So I got my ivermectin from a pet supply company (large dog dose – wuf, wuf). I worry about my brother and sister-in-law who took the Pfizer shots. He had a bad heart attack before the plandemic designed to destroy Trump and so was vulnerable to his doctor recommending he take it. My sister-in-law has been treated for breast cancer. The more I learn, the more I realize I would have been harmed or killed if I had succumbed to the propaganda, and I’m thankful that the Holy Spirit guided me not to take the shots. But I just learned they are injecting mRNA into our food animals now. So worldwide population reduction/control via plandemics, injections altering DNA, and aborting babies is definitely real. This is evil. Fight it/resist/get educated.
Good Morning Treepers!
Neither my wife nor I took any of the vaccines. We avoid all vaccines generally, except when my daughter gave birth to our 1st granddaughter, she insisted we get a flue vaccine that year which we did so we could see our grandchild.
I knew in my gut the minute they rolled out these vaccines that they were bad. Nothing made sense, especially the survival rate for this so called pandemic without the vaccine. We also mistrust our government which is another reason for refusal.
My wife who works for a BIO/Tech company was also distrustful of the vaccines and the mandates that followed. She has a nice remote job and brings in high six figure salary annually. Her company ultimately demanded all employees take the so called vaccine and boosters and she immediately claimed a religious exemption.
We had discussed in the event her company did not grant her an exemption that she would walk away from her job rather than get the so called vaccination. Ultimately they granted her an exemption.
The stress that this caused my wife and I was extreme throughout this process and we both have a lot of very cold anger for not only her company but also our corrupt government.
One more thing, My wife and I immediately started telling all who we knew not to get the so called vaccine.
My daughter, SIL and granddaughters did not get the clot shots. Eventually they all came down with covid/Flu and I dropped them off a box of Ivermectin for them on day 1 and by day 4 they were all better, but had some lingering fatigue.
My granddaughters could not take Ivermectin so they just rode it out without meds. Lots of soup and juice and vitamins and they were over it in 5 days.
That’s our story. Happy Sunday & God Bless Y’all!
ALERT!!!
Dr Malone warns that pharmaceutical companies are injecting MRNA into animals. Food chain, domestic, wildlife.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mrna-vaccines-in-livestock-and-companion
For me it goes way back to all the hysteria about swine flu. It was obvious to me that it was fear mongering. So I never got a flu shot. Same thing with Covid. Why get a manmade intervention for something that has about the same death rate as lightning? And after the vax came out, why were the vaxed people afraid of the unvaxed, and running around wiith face diapers?
Ever since Thalidomide, I told myself never to be in the first wave to try anything new and to wait to see if there were any side effects. When I read about how the shot was a new and novel and worked with our DNA, I was sure I was never going to do it. None of it make sense. Why were they pushing it so hard? Why were they stopping the meds that doctors said were working?
I did not take the shot because I am leery of anything being forced on me by the government. From the very beginning, I was suspicious of the lockdown, which made no sense whatsoever. After living through many flu seasons, why were we now being forced to“shelter in place”?
Once I started reading about doctors, like Dr. Simone Gold, who were fired for using inexpensive, yet very effective treatments like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, I knew that a great evil plan was in place and I wanted no part of it. My husband and I are devout Christians, and we pray every day that God will stop these evildoers in their plan to carry out mass genocide.
Our family of five did not take the shot. Our oldest child, now 22, was vaccine injured as a baby, and we spent well over a decade being gaslit about what was “wrong” with him. He’s now thriving and healthy and on no medications after a childhood of inhalers, medicines, and various medical and mental health diagnoses. We switched him to raw milk, grass-fed pastured meats, and eliminated processed foods and medicines from his life and “viola!”
For this reason (and a few others) I did not trust the covid narrative, the vaccine, and just overall I have believed pretty much since 9/11 that the government is full of lying liars who lie.
Due to not taking the shot, we lost our business, my husband lost 2 side jobs, our children had to switch schools, and we lost nearly all our friends here in the People’s Republic of Illinois. It brought us closer together as a family, strengthened our faith and resolve, and I REGRET NOTHING.
Cheers to all of us who stood strong.
I did take the first 2 Pfizer vaccines because at the time I was a nurse working in a hospital filled with Covid pts. So they say. I didn’t take any boosters. I saw many “covid” patients who were not really that sick. They were also selling the fact that it was an “airborn” disease. If this was the case, then my flimsy little fabric mask would never have helped me. Also, an intensivist doctor, when I asked him “Why are we not giving Regeneron to these patients?” his response was
“What’s that?”. So either he was dumb or playing dumb. Regeneron is the name of the monoclonal antibodies that President Trump got. I also saw many patients die in the hospital because of scared neglect, they would adjust IV pumps in the hallway with extra long tubing so they wouldn’t have to go in the room. I never called in sick. I never had a covid test to this day. They didn’t want to test us unless we had severe symptoms because they needed us to work. I knew it was just a big scam when they were letting illegals in without concern by the hundred thousands. I also knew that keeping us indoors would make us all sicker. Fresh air, sunlight (which helps us absorb Vit D) would make us better. At least DeSantis didn’t lock us down. We could go out but the fear was everywhere. It made me sick to see playgrounds empty and taped up with yellow. The other common sense question was “Why are you shaming the unvaccinated if you are jabbed?” You are supposed ti be protected if vaccinated. This was all a big lie. Only took a little bit of common sense so see the big scam. Some of my family members who sre boosted have had COVID at least twice. That is no vaccine!!!!!
Now do one for those that did and regret it.
Some of us have already posted on that topic:)
Wow. People in government, in and around Operation Warp Speed stepped forward to CTH to state they did not/ would not take the jab. They knew it was poison, yet it was forced on the good many rest of us.
Government is not interested in my health or well being or ability to prosper. They all made that real clear.
I liked; The Potato Revolution. Haha That’s what it is.
Additionally, I attended an Army reunion in October 22 and caught the virus. It was very intense – started as a upper respiratory head cold, headache, runny nose, diarrhea for 3 days, couldn’t eat for two days, lost my sense of taste. Never went to the doctor, let it run its course. Was pretty much over it after two weeks except for runny nose and lose of taste. My sense of taste came back after about a month and a half. Glad I had it now since I have natural antibodies. I’m SO glad I resisted the government/media propaganda, and that the LORD is my guide and protector!
Since I’m a long-term reader of CTH and other alternative sources of information, I am naturally suspicious of anything from the government for my “good”. In addition, the rushed nature of the shot concerned me. My immediate family and other close relatives all refused to take it. My in-laws are older and there were discussions about whether to take it early on. We decided to keep researching and hold off and we’re glad we did. They caught covid and recovered. I had acquired Ivermectin to keep on-hand and my father-in-law took it early. We credit it (following Zelenko protocol) for helping him recover. I also give credit to Dr. Zelenko for informing me very early in 2020 about the shot since I followed him very early as he was reporting on his success in treating patients. He is a hero. He triggered me to start following many others who were silenced or cancelled. That was a huge warning sign since the supposed experts were suppressing treatments that worked. Many, many factors just didn’t make sense which led to further doubts and turned to concern and anger of what they were doing to people. I pray the truth continues to come out and those who participated in the evil are brought to justice.
I got the J and J(so I could travel to Scotland to visit family) and my son got the same for heading to college to play D1 soccer. The pharmacist told us that NO WAY was she going to put the mRNA mess in her body but I bet she was in the minority for saying so. My sister in the UK thinks she knows way more than me so has been insisting that all of the family over there get vaxxed and boosted at every instance even after my mum had a mini stroke after the 2nd jab (has been boosted twice since then) and now my aunt had a bad stroke on Friday. The worst is my 11 year old nephew who has never been right after his second jab now has a diagnosis of nephritic lupus. Yes, it could be just horribly random but no where on either side of the family does lupus appear. And his mum insists that it was maybe from COVID and not the vaccine as he had that too despite been jabbed as often as could happen. But what do I know, I don’t have a degree, therefore thick as mince and don’t understand science being a believer whereas she has a PhD and can make important judgement calls. Ok, on you go then sis. I will keep praying for you all instead if you won’t listen.
The evidence used for citing the “necessity” of the jab, just wasn’t there. The evident “danger”, and the narrative push to get it were always out of balance; never adding up. Too much was too wrong from the start. We were being told to fear something, we’d lived with all of our lives.
The obvious lie around masking only made it more clear.
What was truly astounding, were the sources from which the gaslighting was coming from: CDC and NIH. The obvious rewriting of history before our eyes in real time.
I have a friend who has been on hydroxychloroquine for years for her Lupus. She also has cancer. Her family has all had Covid at least once. Many of our friends who are boosted have had Covid more than once. My friend has NEVER had Covid. So I am watching hydroxychloroquine work in real time.
I think when the politicians exempted themselves from the vaccine, that was a real tell.
Easy answer, sorta. I have come to trust almost NOTHING, that is spouted by our so called government, pharma industrial complex (of which medical is folded into) “news” media, et al. These people are just greedy sociopaths thinking they know what is best for you.
Why would I trust them?
Sad but true. Trust your gut.
I read TGP several times a day. There were a couple of articles about hydroxy chloroquine having great success but when Trump brought it up, they tried to derail him. It became obvious that big pharma would not allow a cheap, available drug be used to solve the crisis.
My husband took it, only so he could visit his mother in a nursing home. My sister was completely obsessed with it and made my parents get it. She scared the bejesus out of my dad. He took it and one month later was diagnosed with leukemia. I was shocked at the number of friends that completely bought into it. Didn’t realize they were so weak on critical thinking. One has a PHD in nutrition and still swears by the dawn mask. Unbelievable.
Also, the severity of the response to the illness didn’t seem to correspond with the actual illness. Clearly the government and media were trying to make everyone afraid.
A client told me her grandmother died from leukemia but the death certificate was listed as covid. This was very early on. Now the hospitals were in on it.
It was a runaway freight train and I didn’t want to get on board. Government, media, states all wanted it that way.
Early on I had read an article describing the trials conducted to create an effective vaccine against corona virus. In all the studies, the test subject animals died within six months after vaccination with an mRNA delivery system. Those are not good odds. I wondered how it is possible in a modern day and age to still have to deal with the common cold – no way to evade the pesky virus mutations. These two things initially made up my mind, there was no safe or effective vaccine for Covid which is essentially a corona virus. The fact that it was rolled out on a emergency use authorization and the packaging insert was blank gave me great concern. We were not allowed to see the trial results but we were supposed to take it blindly on faith. Seeing the propaganda machine rolled out and the absolute steam rollering of anyone with questions or concerns stiffened my resolve. My entire extended family including children and grandchildren took these shots against my advice. My husband and I resolved to work on our immune system with D3, zinc and quercetin. Some of our children avoided us for two years. We’ve all had at least one case of covid by now and all is forgotten by them. Now they all want us to get the flu vaccine. Sometimes I wonder if they know us at all!
while attending an outdoor church service unmasked, the congregation nearest us, moved their chairs 6 feet away. we sat in folding chairs isolated from rest of church goers.
quite a visual.
i knew it was a con.
deblasio eating fries, cuomo eating donuts and newsome picking vaxlottery winners, tiktok dancing, celebrity plugs…you name it.
but con continues. SADS anyone?
I took a wait and see stand. My wife has cancer and she got the shot early, plus 2nd. I told her I would do it for her. She said do it for yourself, don’t worry about me. Once I found it was made with aborted baby cells, I was done. No way. She was really upset when she found out about the aborted cells. She has had no problems or side effects. This is the point where I feel God is great! He has watched over her and kept her health and mine though all of this.
Now family was different, my very old mother was very open to seeing me over the holidays. Both my brother in laws did not want me near them. Of course they have no faith in God. One states he doesn’t need Jesus, because he is a good man…. I was a little bitter, but it didn’t take very long to get over it. More bitter the family was divided over the holidays. This Christmas we were together.
I had one friend that was pretty upset I didn’t take the jab. It took some time, she came to see my point.
I think it boils down to their propaganda was strong. It was amazing how it worked. God was in this whole thing and still is. I think this whole thing will go down in history as the largest awaking of Christians ever. God has ways we cannot every image. He loves us so much, giving his son for our sins.
I ask all reading my post to consider; get a Bible start reading it every day ~ read a Psalm along with it. Even if it makes no sense ask the Holy Spirit this simple prayer: Come Holy Spirit fill me with your word, show me your truth. Jesus will show you the way. He is the light and the truth.
John 14:6 AMPC
Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me.
Peace of the Lord Jesus ~ to all
I didn’t get poked for all the reasons listed so far.
Never was much into taking the seasonal vax. Mostly couldn’t be bothered to stand in line somewhere. But, if convenient enough (in work’s parking lot) I might. What I noticed, with this sporadic use, is that I only ever got the flu when I got vaxed, and otherwise had great immunity. Never took another since.
My wife is naturalist, and generally frowns on anything Manmade. So she hadn’t gotten vaxed for a long time either. Kids too, for that matter.
The 2007 crash woke me up – fiat/usury, 9/11, OCB, etc. I was (am still) stunned that the government could oversee such events. I voted for Ron Paul, even when he wasn’t on the ticket, back when I thought voting mattered.
I became aware of the bio weapon (sars-cov-2) in November, and that the various Covid-19 vaxes had mRNA and bypassed all safety protocols with immunity. Then the psyop campaign went full-tilt. Nothing made sense. By Feb/Mar I figured it out.
Both my wife and I lost our jobs over it…and our kids stayed home. So strong was/is our conviction.
Trust no more.
I was working as a dental hygienist when we were shut down in March 2020. I have worked in the field for 45 years at that time & worked through HIV, SARS, Bird flu, etc. without incidence. When the Covid shot was rolled out the dental community were one of the first to be able to get it, so our team signed up for it. On the form to schedule for it, it asked if you’ve had a vaccine in the last 2 weeks. I checked yes because I had just had my 2nd Shingles vacs. No follow up questions! I decided to have a antibody test, & apparently I had an asymptomatic case. I asked what the issue is regarding having a recent vaccine & was told they really didn’t know enough yet but it was probably ok to have the shot. So I did some research & felt that I was already protected. Funny that in my office I was the only one that did NOT get Covid after my original asymptomatic case! I think they all thought I was a crazy, but whose laughing now?
I’m going to make the “educated guess” that this thread has the most comments in the history of CTH.
I’ve already commented several times, myself.
A big thank you to Sundance for bringing the PLANDEMIC to the forefront (I’ve asked for it many times over the past two plus years, lol!)
Sundance’s other article regarding WuFlu is pertinent as well.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/14/the-covid-19-debate-and-conversation-we-were-denied/
As a “pureblood”, who has read the majority of comments for this thread, I want to sincerely THANK all the treepers who resisted the onslaught of LIES, DECEIT, and PROPAGANDA and did not get jabbed MULTIPLE times (if the initial request for multiple jabs and then boosters less than six months later didn’t raise your eyebrows, please WAKE UP, lol!!!)
I believe this link only has a 48 hour window (you can download the pdf),
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/01/15/the-most-important-topics-of-our-time.aspx?ui=7fcb15775eeaba70fca24031127daabcfdfbda5e6982c9b44b1c8f5a0a54cbd6&sd=20210826&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20230115&cid=DM1327353&bid=1695353056
It outlines how the PLANDEMIC was/is the jumping off point for the Globalist Cabal to institute a “one world totalitarian government through the World Health Organization, under the guise of global biosecurity.”
I’ve “debated” with other treepers that this is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE in the history of mankind.
All the back and forth regarding DJT/RDS, voting/balloting, fourth branch, money laundering, etc. (while worthy of healthy debate) are just meant to DISTRACT us from what’s really going on!
This is coming, folks!!!
“Ultimately, the plan is for everyone to have a digital identity, which will collect any and all information about you. It’ll be tied to your vaccination status, medical records, financial accounts, education and work history, your carbon footprint and your social credit score.
As shown in the graphic above, your digital identity will be required to unlock all aspects of life, from logging onto the internet to accessing social services, travel, food, shopping and financial services.
Anything you do in life will be reflected in your social credit score, and any aspect of your life can be used against you.
Punishment for wrongthink, “bad behavior” or insufficient vaccinations can easily be meted out by automatic deduction of a fine from your bank account, a reduction in your social credit score, travel restrictions and much more.
Every aspect of your life will be monitored and controlled from the outside. For anyone who enjoys making their own decisions in life, programmable CBDCs are a death knell.
The currency will be programmable by the issuer, such as the central bank, a government agency or your employer. They can then decide when, how and on what you can spend your money. You also will not be able to save however you like, as some CBDCs may have expiration dates.
Like Sundance says, PREPARE ACCODINGLY!!!!
I am a trained physician and studied the earliest “research” on COVID. I watched the mask mandate forced upon all who ventured in public, a mandate, and procedure never proven to be effective against a virus. I saw the backlash by public officials and organized medicine toward citizens who refused masking, then the vax. I saw people dying for unexplained reasons, following vaccination or because of unproven hospital treatments like positive pressure ventilation or the use of remdesavir. I saw COVID purposely being misdiagnosed to inflate the number of COVID hospitalizations and deaths. Then I saw the collusion of the mainstream media who hyped the severity of the pandemic, and the risk of death from it. I saw small businesses locked down and destroyed, while large corporate favorites were allowed to remain open, without further explanation, rhyme or reason. Finally, I saw the severe suppression of information and vilification of “alternative treatments” reviewed in large world-wide studies by multiple skilled medical professionals expert in treating infectious disease, treatments that proved highly effective in preventing hospitalization and death from COVID. I believed those researchers when they said that 85% of COVID deaths could have been prevented by early treatment and hospitalization prevention. I made the decision not to take an experimental substance whose development did not follow our own FDA protocol in staged trials, before it was released. I realized that except for a subset of elderly patients with co-morbidities, COVID was not lethal, and in most instances produced a flu-like illness that was completely recoverable. There are many other factors that made me skeptical. Previous application of sound public health doctrine required separation of the infected from the vulnerable population. This was not followed when government officials, mayors and governors forced the repopulation of nursing homes with COVID infected patients. Nothing made sense from a medical perspective.
Then the epiphany occurred. This was not an effort to prevent the spread of disease, but an attempt, albeit tyrannical, to control the worldwide population through fear and compulsion. A test run, so to speak. Time has proven that the conspiracy theories we once harbored regarding COVID and its vaccine have all become true. Now the question is, “does mankind have the stomach and the will to call out those guilty of this atrocity, and bring them to justice?” The far-reaching conclusion to this cogitation would be as follows: “If it is important enough to bring closure to this grandest of conspiracies on mankind, and to restore a modicum of trust in medicine, public health, and government, then all involved in perpetrating such a grandiloquent charade must be investigated, and the truth of their actions brought to light.” I wish I had confidence in those in power to do the right thing. We are at a turning point in history. What stance will we support?
As you stated, “Then the epiphany occurred. This was not an effort to prevent the spread of disease, but an attempt, albeit tyrannical, to control the worldwide population through fear and compulsion.”
The emergency use authorization was the end all be all for the govt goons to “control” how people lived and impact population control (not allowing early treatments) where the elderly died alone and afraid. Fear is Satan’s joy.
As 2020 began I was suspicious about an out-of-the-blue, black swan, whatever, event that would interfere with Trump’s reelection.
I remember hearing about Covid for the first time on the Hugh Hewitt show in January 2020.
As that unfolded and Dr. Anthony Fauci became involved I was completely suspicious.
Because of this very website and my knowledge of the love letters that Dr. Anthony Fauci wrote to Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, I knew that there was a skunk at the garden party.
Then I heard the reports of the emergency rooms being flooded and again because of this website and others the actual photographs of emergency rooms showed empty parking lots and empty emergency rooms. Very close to where I live, Vanderbilt University, there were photos of empty emergency rooms after reports that they were overwhelmed.
And of course there was awareness of the exercise that had been conducted in the fall of 2019 that mimicked this very thing.
Liability protection for the manufacturers of the vaccine… Okaaaayyy.
CARES Act throwing in a premium for Covid patients…right.
Evidence that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin worked and then all of the government opposition to that heresy…yeah, no— I’m not believing anything the CDC says.
Throw in Debra Birx, “the scarf queen”, whose daughter worked for the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and I had seen and heard enough to know better than to take any frigging vaccine.
The CARES Act was/is an abomination. Incentivizing hospital CEO’s to prioritize money over proper health care.
As my dear wife keeps saying, “its all coming down”.
Added 32K$ per patient diagnosis with Covid to the hospital from the Feds.
Exactly so. There is one reason and one reason only that this thing leaked from a lab (ahem) when it did: it was an election year.
I award you 1000 upvotes. The day Sundance blogged about Fauci and his love letter to Hillary was the day all my suspicions came to a head. Thank you Sundance.
Why were we require to take the vaccine to work but illegal’s coming over the boarder didn’t have to take anything??????
They truly believe they can ‘ legislate away ‘ our Right To Consent.
NO.
2016 Obama-Era Cures Act: Section 3024
“Clinical testing of investigational medical devices and drugs no longer requires the INFORMED CONSENT of the subjects if the testing poses no more than minimal risk to the subjects and includes safeguards.”
Link ; H.R.34 – 114th Congress (2015-2016): 21st Century Cures Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
This must be repealed.
I’m suggesting in addition to that, look at what they did and continue to do to our food system?
I defy anyone to walk into a grocery store and pick up a container of heavy cream or half and half, and read the ingredients label: it should read “heavy cream” or “whole milk and heavy cream”. In reality, it reads something like this: “cream, milk, carrageenan, mono and diglycerides, cellulose gum, polysorbate 80.
I was raised on a self-sufficient family farm that not only supplied food for 9 people, it also provided for those in need in our neighborhood and church. I witnessed the federal government’s interference in our farm, so that my Dad had to take another job in order to pay the taxes and make up the loss in his milk check because he refused to let his acres lay bare , rather than feed his own family. So, for me I have not trusted the government since that time.
Wow, now I know why grocery store cream or half-n-half taste so horrible. I now have 2 milk cows. The milk is out of this world delicious and the cream is amazing. I sincerely hate the government.
A side note:
I’m having a problem with my computer this morning and my response is not to SparrowHawk, it is in response to Mary jo below, however, it is all relevant.
Sorry for any confusion. I tried to edit but was after the time limit that I noticed my error.
I was raised on a dairy farm and I remember what real whole milk tasted like not this blue stuff you get in the store.
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Yup. And look at the frozen juice concentrates, which once upon a time were just frozen juice concentrates.
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We are so fortunate to be near a local dairy. Heavy cream ingredients are listed on the glass bottle as Cream, Milk ingredients are listed on the glass bottle as Milk and Vitamin D3. Glass bottles are re-useable therefore returnable for a $2.00 per bottle credit or cash. Excellent fresh taste!! With the credit the cost is the same and sometimes less than the other milk and cream products with numerous unhealthy ingredients!
Somewhat of a sidenote, I am rethinking all medications I take. No more flu shots as well as some other minor meds.
However I think our country should rethink all vaccines for our kids. I don’t know for sure about their effects on autism but it clearly needs to be researched by an independent medical institution. If there are any left.
We should question everything from big pharma and our government.
I’m with you Mary jo, I question ALL medications & medical advice now. When Doctors and all major medical organizations were pushing this on the public without debating it, that too made me questions both their intelligence & allegiance to patients.
However, if you wanted to destroy the US from the inside, why not destroy American’s faith in our vast medical complex that sets us apart from most/all other countries? I’m near the Houston Medical Center, one of the US medical centers where World Leaders & Elites come for high quality medical care for their serious illness, especially cancers.
Me too. I’m rethinking everything including “medical advice” from “professionals”.
Cutting back on my statins. Anyone have any advice about natural remedies. My total chlosterol was 140 last time .
I totally agree with you Mary jo! It’s all a money game and it is all self-propitiating, at human expense. Heartbreaking that greed is a choice that hurts so many. Crimes against humanity.
Read the book “Turtles All the Way Down.” Vaccines are definitely on shaky ground. Did you know a federal was passed in 1984 that makes questioning the polio vaccine a federal offense?
I too have not taken the clot shot. At 74, I have my fair share of comorbidity issues. Working as a non emergency medical transportation driver I deal with mature patients everyday. I contracted covid in November of 2020 and survived on a decongestant and acetaminophen. I was out of work for 12 days (and still got paid). In the time since November 2020 I have been exposed and have always tested negative. To me that proves that the natural immunity really does work. While my wife and many close friends (in the faith) have had their shots, in a in home meeting I was the only one who had not taken the “jab”. I was asked to wear a mask to protect the others. As a sign of respect I complied. In reality, they all should have masked up to protect me. It was the last time I will meet any of them in person. A painful loss. CTH is my go to page every day. Keep up the good work.
One more thing, I learned about Antibody Dependent Enhancement and that became the determinative factor for me to avoid any injection.
Dr. Ryan cole, a Mayo Clinic trained pathologist implores everyone to supplement with Vitamin D3 (5-10,000 units daily) which will prevent Covid and all flus. The premise is the we don’t get the flu in the summer because of adequate sunlight but in winter, well, you know the drill. He says winter is not flus Eason but low Vitamin D season. I take 3 each 5000 units daily since I am 200 lb plus, haven’t gotten sick, never had Covid,,,,,and supposedly it may help prevent many other chronic diseases. As a Stage 4 cancer patient who went alternative and been cancer free for 6 plus years, I have learned the power of being your own advocate and not listening to the never ending drug ads on TV.
Congratulations on being cancer free!! After cancer treatment, I went off ALL pharmaceuticals, bought a small plot of land and began farming. I get oodles of sunshine outside working with animals and grow my own food. I’ve lost a ton of weight, the pain is no longer debilitating, and so far the cancer has not come back. I’m strong and healthy. We definitely have the power to change the trajectory of our lives, Lord willing. This year I am studying herbal medicine so that I can become even more self-reliant.
Great work by Robert Malone on this.
Because all “vaccines” are dangerous to some degree, including the risk of anaphylactic shock, and covid was not a dangerous virus…Additionally, the Pfizer trial didn’t show any benefit to anyone who understands statistics…
Subsequently, we learned about the 2012 animal trials, in which the mRNA stripped natural immunity and all the animals died…