I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

No shots for me or my husband–ever! We’re in our late 60’s and in pretty good health. We both have science backgrounds and starting in early 2020, we both read volumes about Covid. Our business was considered “essential” while other businesses had to shut their doors. That made no sense given the government and media narrative of the virus’s high transmissibility. That was the first warning sign that the government and media were driving fear and their messaging just didn’t add up.
We read CTH daily and got lots of valuable guidance from Sundance and Treehouse commenters and accessed web links for further knowledge and information. We immediately began taking vitamins, supplements, and HCQ and stockpiled the same for family members.
We closely followed FLCCC, Dr. Kory, Dr. Marik, Dr. Malone, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole, and several others. Everything was pointing to Covid being survivable and there were available repurposed meds and various other strategies to help folks survive the virus. Natural immunity is the key and renders vaccines unnecessary.
Early in 2021, the VAERS data showed allergic reactions to the vaccines were among the highest adverse reactions recorded. In my early adulthood, I had allergic reactions to 3 different medications. My husband and I discussed this and decided we would not take the shots. More red flags went up when the VAERS data and the military adverse reaction database were changed or taken down. The government didn’t want any sunlight on that information. The CDC, FDA, and NIH continually changed their messaging. More red flags!
We’ve had Covid twice now. The first time was rough. We took Ivermectin along with Z-pack, corticosteroids, pine needle tea, Quercetin, melatonin, and other supplements. It took about a month to get back to normal. Second time was a couple of days with fever and cold-like symptoms.
We haven’t lost any family or friends relationships over differing opinions regarding vaccinations. We agree each has the right to make decisions about their own health. One daughter is a nurse and was required to get the shots and subsequent boosters. She now has some health issues for which her doctor has no answers. We pray for her health because she’s the mother of a small child. We’ve lost faith in our local doctors as they don’t want to conduct thorough exams anymore and prefer to do tele-med appointments versus in-person exams. And no one is paging Dr. Bill Gates to rescue us/sarc.
Thank you, Sundance, for providing this platform for individuals to comment on their particular circumstances and life decisions. I’ve read hundreds of the comments and am fascinated about the shared information. My husband and I are taking the advice of living our best lives to heart. A strong belief in God will sustain us all and lead the way through these difficult times.
Hopefully parents of young children will resist vaccinating their children. Please read and educate yourselves about the vaccines and know the risks to children’s health and longevity.
Those evil people who foisted this pandemic on us will have a day of reckoning–if not in this life, then God will exact the final judgement.
I got 2 jabs and a booster but no more ever. Talked my daughter into not jabbing her 2 children. She had to get the jabs to keep her job and has been sick with many illnesses since. My brother died last year of pneumonia and multiple blood clots throughout his body. He was jabbed 3 times.
I recommend you take a five day course of ivermectin (12mg day/5 days) start taking 600mg N-acetyl-L-cysteine daily plus 50mg zing and some D. Honestly though you know you might be screwed. 50% of the initial shots were saline but all of the boosters were injurious. Up your cancer screenings. Pray.
Ariyana Love ND on Telegram. She says her protocols are not just helping but curing. She often mentions pine needle essential oil. I just prayed for you to find the right direction for help.
A close friend got the shot the first moment she could and got really sick from it. Then she got covid and nearly died. This was early ’21. I decided – not for me! Secured a “just in case” source for ivermecten, took vitamins C, D, zinc and folic acid. So far, so good.
Our family of five did not take the shot. Partly because one member has an autoimmune concern, all of us have trust concerns with the whole process; i.e., poor testing data. Finally in the words of a colleague of mine during Desert Storm, “Trust no one, believe nothing, expect the worst.”
My 80 year old Mom in Jan ’20 got the notice to schedule her appt for the jab. I told her she should wait since this seems to have the same lethality as the flu. Watching the Chinese actors fall over in the streets near dead made me question whether this was real.
I had read the Q drops and listened to gov’t officials before the first case appeared in a Washington retirement home. That made me question many things since retirement homes are not bastions of world travelers.
I also saw several videos on Chinese people wiping computers at Best Buy on the West Coast. That got my hairs on the back of my neck up. That’s not normal.
Ever since I researched everything Covid and archived. Bio-engineered with a lab leak seemed plausible. Today, it is probable, considering the bio labs in Ukraine and Taiwan. Dr Zelenko was a God send of information back then. He found his protocol based on CDC’s own website about corona viruses. HCQ and Ivermectin worked as a miracle drugs according to the NIH in 2005. Fauci even said so back then. Then the digs on the Rothschild’s covid test patents back in ’19 I believe, it all became clear. Gates said vaccination investment was his most profitable one in an interview, also how vaxxes could depopulate 15% of the world. It’s all there when we are curious and dig.
Finally, Mom is doing ok. I tracked her batch for adverse reactions. I think she received the mostly saline one. My family and sibling’s family are all on the Zelenko protocol since fall of ’20. Mom got covid last Easter. The doctor didn’t want to get a covid test since he doubted she had it since she was doing so well. She insisted and came up positive, surprising the doctor and nurses treating her. She told them she was on the protocol and they said keep doing what you are doing. She was flu like for four days but then fully recovered.
CTH, maybe we should talk cancer cures next. Anons have great insights now since we are breaking through the Big Pharma death cult propaganda now.
When President Reagan said the worst words a person could hear is “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”, I heeded those words long ago.
Ain’t it the truth? And doesn’t it sound odd, “got the notice to schedule her appointment”– as if it’s a government requirement or something? Really, if I got sick, the last thing I’d do — or want to do — is get tested. Too many people put themselves through all of that just to find out it’s one specific type of corona virus, rather than another specific type of corona virus–just because the gov has convinced people they need to KNOW.
Why, I wonder?
And repeatedly, we hear about variants or increases or whatever the corporates are pushing this week. What does it matter? It wouldn’t matter if 100% of us had it— it’s still just another variety of corona. Way too many people get freaked because they are TOLD to be afraid, not for any other reason (just like they are told to hate, not for any other reason.)
…as if we didn’t have enough to be seriously concerned about.
Medicare and our Medicare supplement sent constant emails telling us to get the Covid jabs and to order the home Covid tests too. We ignored and deleted all the emails.
I think it has to do with sticking a swab to the base of your brain. Conspiracy theorists say there is something on the swab like spike proteins.
Thank you Sundance for giving us a ‘safe space’ where we can openly speak our views, not having to worry about being attacked and criticized for our opinions.
I have read as many of these postings as I had time to read and I think it was maybe 1/3 of them. I am very relieved and take great comfort in the fact that nearly everyone on this blog is thoughtful, resourceful, and reveals a lot of compassion when they answer this question. Sundance, you have gathered a powerful and candid bunch of answers from people who have obviously wrestled with this problem for years. I take a lot of comfort in finding out there are so many people who really do their own thinking.
I omitted the parts of my story that include any of my extended family, because the COVID-19 debacle has really wrecked a lot of havoc on us all. I think our Government intended to do this to American families and I believe that my family will get through this without any more long lasting damage. Most of my family did get the vaccines and all of them thought they were doing the right thing. We are at a stage where we are all making reassessments and I don’t want to interrupt that process. My opinion is that our families are all that we really have and I thank God for all of the members of my family every day, now.
I was concerned at first, but within a short time things didn’t add up. Small businesses were closed, but I could still shop at any big box store I wanted even if that meant standing in line with hundreds of other people who were possibly contagious. That itself defied common sense for something that was being promoted as deadly 24/7. Despite the deadly nature of the virus that’s being promoted the US still allowed international air travel and the US Government did little to close the border.
Over time getting jabbed became a cult like following, much in the same way as the cult like behavior of Obama followers in 2007/2008 who wanted to know “If I had read the book”, and the Jehovah’s Witness door knockers that plague my neighborhood growing up.
Then you have the ever changing narrative of Tony Fauci who is a blend of Bagdad Bob and Joseph Mengele, and despite his ever changing narrative people treated him like god.
There was an overwhelming amount of overt and covert coercing being put forth to get people to take the jab. Institutions were threatening jobs and some were literally paying (bribing) employees and students to get jabbed. My youngest daughter received $700 in total for being jabbed and one booster.
If something is good and good for you it generally sells itself and doesn’t require arm twisting, whereas the roll out and adaptation of the COVID Jab was pushed using fear porn and arm twisting.
The censoring of individuals who didn’t parrot the narrative that Fauci and MSM were pushing may have been the last straw. I didn’t know who was right or wrong, but I did know that getting only one side of a story usually leads to poor decision. Secondly censoring generally gives the appearance that those doing the censoring are trying to hide something, especially when those being censored are highly regarded in their fields.
I never bought in and I never will.
I did not take the injection, first because I watched and read alot of the early info from Dr Cottrell as well as reports from several other researchers. Second, I did not trust an untested vaxx with dubious testing pre release to the population. Most importantly , I’m healthy, I maintain a good regimen of vitamins and healthy living. Haven’t had so much as a sniffle through this entire event. Oh, and I never wore the face mask.
While the COVID vaccine was being developed, I read an article about previous attempts to develop a vaccine for the family of corona viruses. All past attempts had been failures. Although some looked really good and the test animals all developed anti-bodies, when the test animals actually caught the virus, they all died!
When they announced the COVID vaccine I was looking for some kind of wonderful explanation of how they solved that problem of dead, but vaccinated test animals. There was absolute silence. It was like they never had any problems developing a corona virus vaccine. That made me drag my feet about getting vaccinated.
When the reports of side effects of mRNA vaccines hit the airwaves I was thinking of getting the J&J shot until a friend got it and ended up in the hospital 3 days later and then went on long-term disability. That was it for me. I was done.
Then Fauci went on TV and said the “vaccines” were never designed to stop you from getting COVID or giving it to someone else (which he now denies saying). That combined with the message that you must get vaccinated or you will kill other people reeked of hypocrisy. I stopped listening to Fauci and started listening to all the doctors who were being censored because those doctors actually seemed like they had some integrity. The government and its representatives had none!
I won’t even discuss COVID or the “vaccine” with any medical professional since I know they can’t tell me the truth without risking their medical license, so why even bother on that topic.
I retired long ago, and I am so thankful I didn’t have to choose between my job or the jab, but I was angry about what was happening to people who were still working. In my opinion the vaccine mandates are pure abuse. I will probably be cynical about anything the government says for the rest of my life. I can only pray that some of them pay for what they have done to other human beings.
About 30 days into the lockdown, I told my family that there was something about Fauci that I just couldn’t stand; that he rubbed me the wrong way. My gut instinct told me he was an egomaniacal bureaucrat. I have since referred to him as that smarmy little elf.
Your gut instincts are almost always correct. God gave you the ability to analyze your feelings and gut instincts are the survival instinct feelings He gave to all of the other animals on our planet as well. They are the most important feelings we have to aid in our own survival. Do not be embarrassed to think what you felt was a gut instinct. It was, and most of us probably had the same feelings about Fauci as you did. This is why the people that we should fear the most are the ones who have been trying to praise Fauci as if he were a God himself. Because of Fauci, I can more clearly see our future enemies. For this, I thank Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Anthony Fauci, and many others who have also made me feel my gut instincts.
Thank you for posting this, PolySi.
Spidey senses were up after seeing the videos coming from China. They looked like a bad 70’s horror show recreation, and the BS flag went up immediately.
I worked for the .gov for 30 years but was fortunately able to retire right before all this BS started.
I’ve been poked, prodded, and injected with everything imaginable and unimaginable to what one could think of, but believed most things were ok until I discovered this site back in 2015.
I’m ashamed, pissed off, and praying that we all make it through this calamity.
Well ………………… we all didn’t make it through and many more will be lost in the months and years ahead. Let the inquests begin.
First, I have never been what is called an anti-vaccine person. Given that it has always taken well over 10 years to bring a pharmaceutical product to market I originally thought I would wait and see the impact this product had on the folks who were rushing out to get it. I am not stupid, I figured that I would hang back an gage the impact of the vaccine on the “first movers”. At that time I had not made a definitive decision on whether I would take the vaccine or not. As time wore on it was obvious that people were getting sick and some were dying from it; and, that there were alternative products that worked safely (even though we were told not to use them). By the time my work mandated the experimental vaccine I decided that it was not worth the risk to get the vaccine.
My husband and I are vaccine free and will stay that way. Having worked as pharm tech for over 2 decades, I learned many things about big pharma.
I learned they can not be trusted at all.
I learned they will do anything for money including killing people.
I learned most people trusted the pharma companies because the FDA said so.
I learned FDA mandates a set of rules for each and every drug for getting it to market. Starting with Research and development, the drug company must put each drug through testing, first must go through animal testing, and if it passes that test, they can continue to human testing. Animal testing can take 6 months to a year, if they fail it starts over.
Then the drug has to spend at least a year small human trials, moving on to a larger human trial, and long term human trials in the largest human group. All of these trials can take as long as 7-10 years. Trials need to be double blind tests.
Pharma also needs to prove harm or the lack of harm, everything that happens in the trials that happens to the person has to be recorded and the percent of how many have had that same side effect or allergic reaction.
With that being all said we know they have been working and failing on finding a vaccine to sars type virus since sars broke out in china during the Obama admin. Fast forward to covid 19 and less than 6 months they find a vaccine?
And before they make a claim of the drug doing X thing they have to prove it indeed does that X thing. So in the case of a vaccine, they have to prove it will keep people from getting the disease. This is why they had to change the definition of vaccine. Very underhanded.
They have to do this to each strength, and if they change anything in that drug they have to go through the process again from start to finish. So for each new form of vaccine they have to go through this whole procedure again.
FDA will look at risk vs how well it will help people over all. There is a % of allowable risk.
Just because FDA says its approved does not mean the drug or vaccine is safe to take for everyone.
I have seen drugs that were on the market for 20 years and the risk started out weighing the good and they pull it from the market. This is also determined on how many lawsuits are made against the Pharma company for that drug.
A drug does not go into true long term testing on the masses until its released to the public.
I have never seen this kind of thing with giving mass people an experimental drug. And then forcing people to take it.
Even with experimental drugs they have a strict protocol they have to go through to give it to people.
Even when the Aids cocktail drug that came out it had testing and trials, though they shortened the time it was still years not months.
I also know that most years even the seasonal flu vaccine does not do anything for that particular strain. Some seasons its only 30 to 50% viable.
From the very start I knew this was very wrong. My gut told me to stay the hell away from it.
I immediately started taking Vit D3, Vit K2, zinc. I continue to take Vit D3 and Vit K2 to this day. We did NOT lock down, we did not stop our normal things we would do. The first year we did distance, never wore a mask, we sanitized our hands after shopping and did not touch our faces till we washed our hands.
We got the virus a year ago Jan 2022. It was no worse than a bad cold, and we were over it 7 days. It would have been the variant omicron. I have no doubt in mind there is a covid virus, but it was just not as bad as they said it was. They were not honest in how they got their numbers, instead of recording how many died OF covid, they recorded how many died WITH covid. This whole thing was handled very badly whether it be intentional or because of incompetency.
The other thing that kept me from ever even thinking about getting the vaccine was the constant lies from Fauci. Lying about the masks was also a big one for me. That made me very suspect of what was really going on the deeper we got into the covid virus.
Also….
I do not to this day blame Trump for any thing he did, in fact I think he went over and above doing what he could to help the people with the information he had been fed. Trump does not have a medical degree and relied on the “experts” to tell him what need to be done. He got mocked for many things during that time including asking question, stopping travel to China. He promoted people taking therapeutics and was mocked for it. Since when do FDA and Health officials turn down viable therapeutics? This time they did. WHY? And why did they force a therapeutic when they had an official one that made more people sick? There are so many unanswered questions.
They had to ban the therapeutics to get the EUA for the vaccine. If there’s a readily available, highly effective treatment – no emergency use needed.
I remember a doctor asking me if I had taken the jab early on — First, I thought it was none of his business (his specialty had nothing to do with viruses or anything close to it.) I said no, and he asked then, “What not?”
I shrugged and said “Doesn’t seem any need for it,” which was the truth. I remember first hearing about flu shots and thinking “Why in the world would anybody do that?” We grew up with the measles, mumps, and chicken pox…and they want you to take a shot for the flu? Get serious!
But once the “why would I want to do such a silly thing” phase passed, I noticed how they were shoving it in our faces 24/7, and THAT’S when I thought “No way.” Anything they push that hard has to have an agenda.
And now…every few days, another “died suddenly”….
I was suspicious about Covid from the get-go. None of what the powers that be were saying made sense to me . When I found out they were using Nial Ferguson and climate modeling type programs to determine the death rate I scoffed big time. Those haven’t been right in 50 years!
The fear porn never matched what I was seeing in real life. Unused field hospitals in NYC didn’t match the narrative. There should have been homeless dead in every major city – and they would have been sure to show us. ER docs speaking out about better ways to treat the new virus and getting disappeared/vilified made no sense. That was how medicine had worked in the past. The government deciding what businesses/products were “essential”. The whole “slow the spread” line that kept people isolated and indoors, where traditionally we had understood you were most likely to contract flus and colds. Somewhere I read about the outbreak on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, and that was a better match to my experience. An article re a study in the UK using hydroxycloroquine (sp?) as a profalactic (sp?) for healthcare workers that showed great results and then hydroxy is crushed with slatted “studies”. Ivermectin is mocked as a “horse med” when the medical establishment knew full well that was not the usage it was considered an essential med for around the world. None of the puzzle pieces fit to make a logical organic situation.
When the “v” arrived I was pretty jaded and deeply suspicious of anything coming from the powers that be. Seeing Bill Gates’ TED talk stating vaccines were a way to *reduce* population was confirmation of my concerns. I found Dr Malone/Dr Zelenko/Dr McCoullagh and others who were giving info that made much more sense. Reading the Covid was in the same family as common colds, and we haven’t found a shot for those yet, but we can suddenly create one for this?? When I wrapped my head around the idea that someone somewhere was executing a sinister plot all those loose puzzle pieces began to fall in place. That was well stated in a statement by Neil Oliver here on CTH.
Growing up in a generation known for “don’t trust the man/anyone over 30” I must say that I was stunned to see so many people accept the narrative w/o any challenge, and every flip-flop since. I guess they bought into the Story of Stuff notion that the govt job is to take care of you. And when they get mugged by reality it will be a hard reckoning. So incredibly sad.
My first objection was the MRna that, from what I read, would actually change my own DNA. The Good Lord designed me the way I am and I just felt I wanted to leave my DNA alone. Then I read that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine did not use the MRna protocol so I made an appointment at my local pharmacy to get it there. I prayed and told the Lord that if i wasn’t supposed to get the J&J vaccine to show me. The day of my appointment the Pharmacy called and said that they had run out of the J&J vaccine but would be glad to give me the Moderna vaccine. I thanked them for calling and did not make another appointment. I felt I had my answer.
America Under Attack
https://www.thetrumpet.com/literature/books_and_booklets/3967
I’ve been married to a Chiropractor for 45 years.. very familiar with All the ways our health care industry has been hijacked
We did not take the jab
We do not take any kind of vaccines – flu shots, shingle shots, etc..
Raised 2 healthy humans with no vaccines and Blue have 6 healthy Pure blood Grandchildren
It’s a long time Evil Agenda and I’m very thankful that the populace is waking up and becoming Aware 🙏
Hey Sundance, your Q&A showed up on this forum…
https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/update-so-you-did-not-take-the-covid-19-shot-why-not.629063/
Over 90 answers there to add to your list.
I researched it, I did not want to take it but I did. I knew it was bad, I was too afraid to stick to my guns surrounded by friends and co-workers who just wouldn’t leave me alone. I caved to peer pressure. I never caved to peer pressure in high school but 40 years later I caved.
Ever since then, I have been taking vitamins and everything I can find or that is recommended to counter it.
I got COVID in August, I had Ivermectin & Fluvoxamine on hand ready to go just in case. I had a mandatory week off from work, which was amazing I got so much great sleep and rest, and the meds worked like a charm I felt better in a couple of days.
The 2nd shot was really bad for me, my heart hurt for 24 hours I have been tested and my heart is fine but it still worries me when I read the headlines or see people dropping dead. I even got tested for anti-bodies a few months after the shot and they were really low which I took as a good sign.
It is my biggest regret and I pray every day that I do not pay for it medically.
And let me add one more thing, I got COVID on vacation where for 3 days I stopped taking my vitamins and supplements. Same thing happened to a friend at work who got both Pfizer shots, she stopped taking her vitamins and she got COVID. She took medicine with elderberry and was fine after a few days. Needless to say, I will be taking my vitamins and supplements on all my trips going forward.
The government, by its actions, has convinced me they are corrupt beyond repair. If they say white, the color is actually black. If they say something is true, it’s more than likely false. If they say this shot will save your life, you must take it! I avoid it like the plague. Now you know why I refused the shot, and I’m glad I did. My wife took it because she was forced to. Being forced to take a shot should be a criminal offense, but it is now our norm.
I do not and did not trust the federal government. And I suspected Trump was out of his league. He was so intent on fixing the problem, producing a vaccine, cutting through red tape, he could not see the federal government was the real virus. Trump was hostage to his own ego & vanity. I was 67 at the time, Type 2 diabetic, 2 years into recovery from a stroke. Why get a vaccine with a 98% recovery rate even at my age and risk factors? This tsunamis wave of fear? I decided I am ready to face fear, face facts, and trust God. If I perish, I perish. Fauci always seemed a weasel to me. China was suspect. Other people can make their own decisions. I worked hard to persuade my 4 adult children an ex-wife NOT to get jabbed. None of them got jabbed. And anyone who wanted my honest opinion. I started following AFLDS, FLCCC, and Coffee & Covid. All my research confirmed my concerns. Then in Oct 2021, I got covid. Was ill with fever and all the symptoms. Finally after 4 days like this, I went to Urgent Care and tested positive for covid. Temperature was 104°. Asked the doctor could he treat me? His response, “No. Go home until you cannot breathe anymore. Then go to the hospital.” So I went to the animal feed store and bought ivermectin for horses. Took 500 mg that first day. Then 100 a day for the next 3 days. Plus othe vitamins and supplements suggested by the FLCCC treatment protocol. Have continued their preventive protocol. My fever broke in 2 days and I begin to feel markedly better. I consider myself to be my own advocate. I trust my doctor, within reason. I am healthy and work at staying that way. I intend to live and enjoy my life. No one lives forever no matter what the fools in the WEF and Bill Gates say. Those guys openly advocate for global de-population measures. That is intent to kill. Their money will only protect them so long. When God calls them to account for their lives, they will receive justice. That is not my jurisdiction. I have dear friends who got jabbed and now regret it. Some developed serious side effects. All were scared by the fear pirn and believed the doctors really cared for them. Now they know better. The medical profession never regain the trust they once had. The doctos I knew well and personally, from college, would not get jabbed. He took retirement. They asked him to stay on after he refused the jab because of the doctor shortage. He does not trust the hospitals, pharma companies, insurance companies or any federal medical agency. Why should I?
Thank you for asking for my testimony.
No jab. Red flag #1: The Diamond Princess was not full of dead people. Red flag #2: right after the announcement of the ‘3 weeks to flatten the curve’ by isolating, Fauci said that Grinder and online meet-up dates were OK. Really???? Red flag #3: the special intake maze and little tents (looked like a circus entrance) at the local hospital never seemed to have any lines of people to handle. Red flags #4, 5, 6: ‘essential’ liquor stores, weed stores, abortion clinics remained open but closed Churches, funerals, family gatherings. Red flag #7: putting infected people into care homes full of elderly “the most vulnerable among us.” Really??? Looked like deliberatly trying to kill them to me. Red flag #8: the sudden appearance of a ‘miracle vaccine’ – it takes YEARS to create actual vaccines – this had to be crap. Red flag #9: animals treated with mRNA junk died in 3 years or less without exception of ADE – and they want to use this on people? Red flag #10: Chinese people touching and wiping store items without buying anything – and the lady caught trying to get into the Mar a Lago facility. Etc, etc etc.
I could go on but won’t. I feared that the jab was the real bioweapon. Covid was the excuse to force it on people. Everything that has come out on alternative media has vindicated skepticism of the whole thing as sold to us by some real sick puppies.
Yes. They lifted the “genocidal vaccine” plotline from Tom Clancy “Rainbow Six” (1998).
Sundance lover 💖 from New Zealand. My first red flag was that the drug companies were not liable for damage caused… then alternative therapies were rubbished…thirdly there was absolutely no way our idiot politicians were going to tell me what to put in my body. I’m fortunate I’m sort of retired but do work from home so not in the work force,unlike my 4 children who held out as long as they could but were mandated/nurse or were required to conform to continue work overseas.
Information from overseas specialists confirmed my suspicions.People like Luc Montagnier,Geert Vanden Bossche,Peter McCullough,Tess Lawrie,Ryan Cole,Robert Malone,Kary Mullis,Robert Kennedy ,in NZ Dr Sam Bailey and her husband Mark, top global experts whom I’d rather trust .
I’ve not had cvid and continue to eat well, grow my own vegetables and eggs, eat MEAT, exercise and have absolutely no regrets.
Alright … someone posted something that really … REALLY … has me scared. I obeyed … and I took two jabs … driving through the queue of cars at the Oakland Coliseum. And I’ve had no reactions or health issues relative to the Pfizer mRnA vaccine … EXCEPT … exactly what was posted earlier. Some months after taking the jabs … I awoke from an extreme nightmare at about 5am … with my heart literally POUNDING out of my chest. This has NEVER happened to me … ever. I sleep extremely well and rarely, if ever have nightmares. And my heart has never ever behaved like that ever before. In fact, I have a rather thorough GP who routinely straps me up for EKG’s … and I NEVER have shown any irregularities… ever. And worse still … I have had several of these episodes … always awaking deep in the night/morning with my heart racing and pounding through my chest. Enough to wake me up from a dead REM sleep. Again, this is completely foreign to me.
And now … I read that these episodes are reported precursors to cardiac DEATH. Sudden Pfizer DEATH. How do I feel? Scared shitless, that’s how. It’s probably been almost a year since I had the last of these episodes … so maybe I survived Pfizer DEATH? Or maybe it’s coming … without warning … without hope. So, should I go to my Doctor and get another EKG? should I get a 24/7 heart monitor? Should I buy a home defibrillator, and teach my wife how to use it? Should I live out the last of my years in constant FEAR that Pfizer killed me? Sent me to an early death? Right on the eve of my retirement? Bastards!!! They’ll owe my family $Billions! My life is worth at least a tiny piece of their taxpayer pie.
My heart goes out to you — I can only imagine how scary that would be. If it’s been almost a year since you had an episode, hopefully it’s worked its way out of your system.
Several people have posted links here about ways to counteract the jab effects. Drinking pine needle tea is one that I have heard of. Here is a link to the Frontline doctors’ protocol to help counteract any effects of the vaccine:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover/
What you describe also sounds like a panic attack — and a spiritual attack. Praying that you sleep well without nightmares, for wisdom on counteracting any side effects, for God’s protection from any jab effects — and for a long, happy, healthy life, in Jesus’ name. There is a verse that says God has not given us a spirit of fear – but he has given us a spirit of love, power, and a sound mind. No one should live in constant fear. Praying you find peace and rest. Take care…
Ask for a D-Dimer test.
Thanks. I had never heard of that test before. Ironically, my blood tends to be very iron rich with high hemoglobin that can contribute to clotting. But I also have excellent cholesterol numbers (good genetic disposition) … not that I believe much in the cholesterol boogeyman anymore.
Whats really odd is that the attacks came in the dead of the night … while asleep … at extreme rest when my normal heart rate is running about 60 BPM. My son got an Apple Watch for me for Christmas … which measures and records my heart rate … I suppose I should always sleep with the watch on.
I’ve never had anything like this ever happen to me … until after the two jabs. And no … SD … I absolutely did NOT get boosted … not thrice, twice, or even once. Unfortunately, my wife did … over my objections. The school District she works for was demanding it … *spit*. By the time “boosters” showed up as a thing … it was OBVIOUS this experimental non-vaccine was next to worthless … if not deadly.
This is a good link to keep handy; Dr. Pierre Kory has set up a website for post-vaccine questions and needs as they arise:
https://drpierrekory.com/
Damn, Kenji, I’m sorry to hear this. Hopefully your newly gleaned knowledge will help you to avoid these outcomes.
I believe I have read that the frontline doctors have detox protocols on their website. Hoping you have cleared the gauntlet already!
Kenji, your symptoms sound very much like sleep apnea: nightmares, pounding heart. For your sake I hope that you have sleep apnea because you can fix that with a CPAP machine. If your heart was affected by the vax, the damage is likely permanent. You need to ask your doctor about having a sleep study done.
If you have sleep apnea and don’t treat it, then you can permanently damage your heart and even develop dementia. And just in case, do something to counteract the spike proteins.
Have your doctor do blood work. They need to run a CBC with Diff/Platelets and a D-dimer. If D-dimer is high & platelets are low you are having micro clotting.
My husband had similar issues in 2020 (not vaxed) & blood tests showed this. He also has intermittent a.fib which did show up on first EKG when he was exhibiting same symptoms you described, but follow up EKG at Cardiology appointment was normal.
Medication has helped him
Your symptoms are not normal and should be further looked into (especially lab tests I mentioned if those were not already done).
Be well!
1. I read about their party with Bill Gates, and thought you had a planned party, on how to handle this crisis BEFORE it actually happened!!
2. the amount of bribing to take a vax/medicine that suppose to work??? if was real, really worked, you wouldn’t have to bribe anyone.
3. cannot develop vax’s that soon after a pandemic is happening. NOT possible, takes years. so what is in it actually because it doesn’t stop infection at all.
4. there are patents on these viruses and vax’s way before this crap happened, hmmmm sure feels planned.
5. lemmings started bullying everyone, fear set in and made some people behaved like total bullying jerks, some still are! insane behavior!
6. stupid rules, stupid guilt slogans, “do your part”
6 feet apart, wear your mask, “2 weeks to flatten the curve,” stay inside, can’t run small business, except big chain stores can stay open?. um ok?
Get in the house before 10 pm cause covid gets you at 10 pm, but not 9:59 pm. sure.
Wear masks, till you sit down to eat, then you can take it off, cause covid won’t get you while eating.
Oh yes, and the plexis glass in front of cashier at grocery store… um cashier handled all your food, and the plexis glass covers nothing but the front of the cashier, ok? makes no sense. ”
trust the science?” is this shit peddled “the science”.
7. main pharma clot shot ceo’s wouldn’t take the vax first! BIG RED FLAG. they won’t partake in what they are peddling.
8. first person, woman nurse to take shot
fainted on national tv.!she probably passed away.
there are so more reasons but these were the obvious reasons for me.
i will NEVER take one or anyother vax ever again.
Ben Garrison Cartoons
@GrrrGraphics
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Knock, knock!
Who’s there?
Died.
Died who?
Died Suddenly.
Easy. A drug company that has tried and failed to manufacture several MRNA therapies over more than a decade and none ever made it past the animal trials. If I understand correctly the Clot Shot was the first drug they ever developed that actually went out for public consumption shielded from liability under the emergency use.
If they are not willing to stand behind the drugs they produce why in the world would anyone use them?
Ultimately, I refused because there was an underlying sense of deception. The “science” went against natural immune intelligence & the level of coercion was rampant. I thank God for his guidance & am truly grateful to have held steadfastly in my decision. I lost my job as a result, but kept my health. Win-win in retrospect.
I posted a couple of times on this last night.
I said that one member of my household got the first two Moderna jabs, after saying he wouldn’t get them.
He changed his mind on a visit to the VA clinic, where he was encouraged to get them.
Our family began prophylactically taking correct dosages of oral liquid Ivermectin once a week. Ann Barnhardt has excellent pages explaining all about doing this correctly.
We also supplemented our already healthy diet and supplement regimen with extra vitamin C, vitamin D3, zinc, and Quercetin.
The person who got the two jabs hasn’t seemed to suffer any ill affects thus far. I have to wonder if that is due to the preventive regimen we began quite some time ago.
Next, my only sibling had battled through four breast cancer surgeries. When at a checkup, a nurse at her oncologist’s told her she absolutely needed to get the jabs. In fact, without ever having met them, she also told her that the auto immune sufferer in MY family should absolutely get the jabs.
My poor sister was so worried about the family member who refused to get jabbed, that she asked about it every time we talked on the phone.
My sister and her husband received, I believe, only one jab. However, she passed away this year after an EXTREMELY accelerated relapse.
Finally, there is something that I have wanted to say for a LONG time: it is ONE thing for people to quote the low-risk statistics about COVID. And it is QUITE another to BE one of those people in the over-a- certain-age and/or with comorbidities group!
That made the decision whether or not for them to get jabbed infinitely more difficult! These people were literally scared to pieces of dying a cruel death all alone!
And they had good reason to be – our government, the media, and the “elites” of the world WANTED THEM TO BE!
I have no doubt, whatsoever, that judgment is coming for the people who caused this anguish, devastation, destruction, and death!
And a whole lot of them are going to be extremely surprised!
Extremely surprised and eternally punished…
I did not take the covid jab for several reasons, first I followed Q posts since nearly the beginning, because of this fact I honed my critical thinking skills. Second, I am against shots in general, Third….ppl I followed said there would be a virus unleashed on the world so I knew ahead of time. I stand in my power.
I didn’t take the Covid-19 jab because it didn’t pass
“the smell test”
The jab development was too fast paced and money driven for my comfort.
No adequate research, trials or protocols.
Hospitals made a literal killing for Covid cash, the sicker you were, the more money they got.
No room for other ailments that needed attention. Hospitals were too full. As I watched the Navy medical ships Comfort and Mercy sent by President Trump to both East and West coasts, docked and severely underutilized, because Trump sent them.
MSM, Federal Government agencies, politicians, along with Fauci and Birx made me sick to my stomach. All these ding-a-lings were in “lockstep” fueling propaganda, fear and anxiety. No solutions, no hope. Stay masked up. Stay home until the Covid vaccine dressed up as a rainbow unicorn comes and saves humanity!
I attended Church and prayed a lot (still do).
I’m a small business owner and I didn’t close my business.
I consider myself an essential worker.
I saw the best and the worst in people.
One of my clients paid my office rent and said we need to stick together and help each other. I cried.
Another client asked me why I didn’t apply for unemployment and I said ‘because I’m employed’.
I also got a few calls from people asking for my vaccine status. My reply was ‘I’m bound by HIPPA not to discuss anybody’s medical status including my own’.
I was told that my response was BS and I will be reported. I replied ‘Report me’! Nobody came knocking.
I spent a lot of time doing my own research. The first Physician I listen to and actually learned about gain of function is a cardiologist named Dr Richard Fleming. That started the ball rolling to learn more. The Frontline Doctors, Dr Zev Zelenko, rest his soul, Dr Sherri Tenpenny, Dr Robert Malone, Dr Peter McCullough, etc I read the Israeli study on Pfizer, studies on mRNA, VEARS, etc.
I consider myself a “Treeper” at CTH, a subscriber at Soleri w/Catherine Austin Fitts, I also read articles from Europe, etc.
In closing, most of my family didn’t get the jab.
The ones who did, words have been said, fences are slowly mending.
The entire push to get vaccinated had all the hallmarks of a scam: urgency, don’t-think-just-act, everyone is doing it, and that was before the threats started. I was attacked and vilified for daring to question the COVID-19 narrative, and when I did make people think about the efficacy of masks they simply changed the subject and ran back into the comforting arms of denial. A year of emotional abuse for anyone who would dare to think, then they told me to get an untested mRNA shot?
My biggest piece of evidence that the entire pandemic was engineered was a video from (I think) 2018, where Fauci and others are talking about how they ‘cracked the human code’ and made an ‘operating system’ that they can ‘re-write with mRNA’. But how to spread it? “We need a flu-like virus, but not the flu because people are desensitized to that.” Tower of Babel is what I saw, and the mRNA vaccines were just another layer.
A conversation with my now-mother-in-law (an RN) about these vaccines and masks was met with a condescending “God gave us common sense” as she happily masked up and got her jab. When I told her to use common sense and debate on the facts, she had nothing. Now her daughter, that she failed to protect, is scared to death that she has sterilized herself by caving to the narrative pressure.
To top it all off, my employer (government contractor) told me I needed to get jabbed or get fired. I told them in no polite terms that I was requesting a religious exemption and a common sense objection because they could not justify the vaccine push. “Just following orders” has never been a good legal argument, and I absolutely threatened to take them to court over this issue. Turns out they never even read my request because too many fellow employees refused; the company caved, and only the ones who refused to fight actually got the jab.
Thank you, Sundance, for bumping this thread. I almost typed a reply the first time around, but figured no one would want to hear the same story over and over again. Maybe its past time we made ourselves heard and made our righteous anger known. After 2 years of concentrated psy-op, I did NOT yield. And I never will.
I am a functional medicine practitioner. I have a practice of clients who try to attain good health. At the start of Covid I did a deep dive to learn everything I could for myself and my clients. I have always used supplements like zinc vitamin d and k vitamin c etc for myself and my clients. I recommend way more than the rda for everything. In 2020 not 1 of my clients was hospitalized with Covid. Several got it and we managed with a regimen I created for them. I already knew the shot was going to use mRNA technology to induce the body to produce the spike protein. First, the prior experiments using mRNA technology didn’t bode well as most of the animals died. I also read about autoimmune issues. Second why would I want my body producing the very spike that caused the worst symptoms of Covid? So the shot was a hard no. I recommended the same to my clients. I wish I could say they all listened. But most did and I am so very grateful. Some risked their jobs to avoid the jab. Those who took it fared better than most. My theory is I have worked with them for a while and their toxic load is less and they are on my supplement regimen.
Proudly unvaxxed 87 year old in WA state here, where public information announcements can still be heard encouraging parents to get their little children and babies jabbed, I began to read up on vaccination when the fuss arose about the occurrence of autism in two year old children. It was of course poo-pooed as having no basis in science and the doctor who advanced this position was hauled up in court to be humiliated. I learned about all the extras that go into modern vaccines, things such as adjuvants and chemicals and that by the time kids were five years old their bodies had been exposed to at least thirty five different shots. Development of a new vaccine requires years of time to prove its safety and effectiveness. I believe President Trump was under great pressure at the time (Fauci et al ) to push for the new vaccine. (Remember how it was fashionable to blame President Reagan for not coming up with a cure for AIDS in the 80s.
The symptoms of Covid 19 seemed eerily similar to the common cold and the influenza, either of which are contagious in close proximity, which happened in the NYC nursing homes, leading to many deaths of already weakened elderly souls. When Governor Cuomo and Mayor di Blasio refused to use the hospital ship and the field hospital, I began to suspect something more sinister might be at work. The Treehouse was a great forum sharing findings especially from the doctors who were curing the bug with well tried Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Then finding out hospital administrators were getting thousands in government money or attributing deaths to Covid rather than the actual cause , masking orders and social distancing were creating little Hitlers in the population at large, the politics of fear at work. 🤷♀️I considered that my cardiac health which was already compromised did not need any further form of attack, so rejected the jab despite my son’s pleading. He took over the shopping at that point. As time goes by, we heard that further shots were required, then boosters, and then young fit people started dropping dead for no apparent reason, embalmers reported finding strange string like avascular clots extending the length of blood vessels, I knew I had made the right decision. I do regret the sadness that surrounds this disease, that people and families were divided, children lost valuable social interaction and education, those who got the jab experienced recurrences of Covid and the knowledge that people world wide were manipulated by wealthy power hungry overlords.
From the minute this ‘virus’ was announced, I was sceptical because of the hysterical media hype, all the talking heads, politicians, influencers etc spouting exactly the same emotional screeching, and the lack of publicly available real information. Within 2 weeks (or so) Trump had announced that hydroxychloroquine would prevent and/or cure the disease. A little research and it became clear that both hydroxy and ivermectin would do the trick combined with zinc and vitamin D and that even though I am in my late 60s, I and my family had nothing to worry about. I truly thought the whole debacle would be over before Easter 2020.
However, finding that I could buy neither HCQ or Ivermectin easily and that both had been officially vilified, I realised that this was a ‘railroad’ job in the making … and the hype continued. I next discovered that quercetin was an excellent substitute and set out to locate a supply. Our local chemist did not carry it routinely, so I ordered it, waited weeks for it to arrive, and picked up some zinc.
I emailed friends and family far and wide to tell them the good news. The replies were ‘interesting’. Suffice it to say that that was the beginning of the demise of quite a number of almost life-long friendships. By the time the injections were available I had listened to and/or read the research-based opinions of dozens of highly credentialed doctors and researchers and realised that this was the depopulation plan I had been expecting to unfold since the early 1980s.
Our family moved to a country property back in the late 1980s because I was convinced that one day the cities would not be safe to live in and that we needed to become as self-sufficient as possible. I did not expect a worthless virus to be the catylist that caused the world to panic and lockdown, to wear perpetual masks and become afraid to stand nearby even their closest friends. But I did expect the ‘flavour’ of what has ensued … the burgeoning totalitarianism on a global scale. Because we moved country, we weathered the worst of the lockdowns surrounded by bush and birds, kangaroos and rabbits, and our thriving vegetable gardens and fruit trees.
The greatest benefits have been the finding of new friends who are critical thinkers and my vastly increased knowledge about how the world really works. I have clearly been aware that all was not well atl east since the ’80s, but I didn’t truly understand the depth of the evil that is trying to take over … and I undoubtedly still don’t know the depths.
I am astounded at how those jabbed friends who remain in our orbit still cannot connect the dots, even when they and their family members have been drastically affected by their multiple jabs. I am astounded that they do not want to know what I have learned throughout my last 3 years of solid research. Go figure. I could feel offended by their dismissal of my research skills (I do have a PHD), but the rebuttals I have experienced pale into insignificance when I consider what the giants in this fight have suffered as they speak out so publicly and put their platinum reputations on the line. My greatest gratitude to all of them … and to you.
No jabs for us – only two in our large extended family. Never considered it. I sensed the evil from the absolute get go, and increasingly so every step of the way. From the denial of amazingly effective therapeutics to people literally suffocating, to the jabs and boosters killing and maiming. Forcing myself to remember it all, in detail, is wrenching.
We’ve taken first Zelenko then FLCCC protocols for prevention. I had a nothing-burger case of delta in 11/21. Again FLCCC protocol and Dr. Mercola’s nebulized food-grade peroxide in saline. Fatigue, sporadic slight fever, loss of taste and smell. Done in three days, and no lingering anything. I thank God daily.
I worry how Trump will be able to deal with this. People unexpectedly dropping dead is now the elephant in the room every time he’s interviewed. How the hell did he decide to ditch RFKJr and the vaccine safety commission he had planned, and go with Gates’ advice? This was a MAJOR disaster, just as his term was getting underway. If I, a literal nobody, know about the Gates polio vaccine horror in India – how can the leader of the free world NOT know? Imagine if RFK were on board in some capacity. He certainly would have made sure Trump knew who Fauci was.
They are going to flip the narrative and blame Trump for the entire thing, leading into 2024. He better have a plan to counter it.
I agree, Trump better tell the truth about his decisions surrounding this plandemic and the poison jabs.
My family and I lost 3 restaurant businesses during Covid. We were able to salvage (barely) one and in order to re-open it and work at it ourselves we were forced to get the jab. I am a natural skeptic and refused to wear the mask while walking my dogs here in Greenwich Village. I laughed off the silly fascists that scowled and scolded me each morning. I did my homework and signed myself, my wife, and my sisters to get the Johnson & Johnson jab. I wasn’t up for being a guinea pig for the new RNDNA technology. One of my sisters refused ANY jab and went about getting a counterfeit vaccination card. I was weary about doing that because I was the front face of the location and was dealing with NY State Liquor License “investigators” that were roaming around the city suspending and rescinding liquor licenses, without any due process or even the ability to have a lawyer present during the kangaroo courts they set up where they revoked HUNDREDS of licenses at the time. When they weren’t taking away your license they were charging fines in the tens of thousands for not recording your customers’ personal contact information or “social distancing”. It truly was a dystopian time. I was heckled at the time for getting the J & J vaccine, it was considered the “ghetto” jab at the time. If I knew what I know now I would have followed my sister’s example and gotten the phony vaccination card, never to have been jabbed. She and her kids have never been vaccinated and have all caught the Covid virus and gotten through its effects without any real issues. I understand those that never got the jab wearing that fact as a badge of honor. It took guts and fortitude. My question is something I haven’t really seen anyone address: was my getting the Johnson & Johnson vaccine any safer to me in the long run than if I had gotten the Moderna or Pfizer ones? I know there are tremendously well-informed folks here in the Treehouse. Maybe someone will enlighten me.
The prepping community was the first to be “shown” videos of people dropping in the streets of China in December of 2019. Being ready to lock down and ride out “the big one” was something we’ve been preparing for our entire life. We knew what it would look like, how the government would try to minimize and lie about the danger to protect commerce, and how the things you need to stay safe or eat would disappear off the shelves, so when Liberals started calling Trump a liar screeching to “hug a Chinese person” because to believe in the virus was racist, we fell for it….
The most conservative, gun-toting, freedom-loving, most prepared demographic set aside our ample stockpile of firearms, thanked God we all already had plenty of toilet paper and N95 masks, and let them lock us down without a peep rather than do what we NORMALLY would have done (which I’ll leave unsaid).
And then, like clockwork, the media narrative shifted across the entire world to a “new unified message” that locking down was a Liberal thing to do, the “pandemic measures” didn’t match our very well-researched and prepared criteria for surviving a REAL pandemic, and the prepping community realized we’d been Psy-Op’d.
We’re not anti-vaxxers … prior to this our kids got all of their vaccines … but when the powers-that-be blacklisted hydroxychloriquine, claiming it was dangerous, I called bull$#!t. My great-uncle came back from the South Pacific after WWII with malaria and was prescribed straight-up quinine … not just the watered-down stuff that Trump was promoting … and our ENTIRE FAMILY took it … dozens of us … without incident to stop the flu dead in its tracks. You see, as preppers, we KNOW all the old medications, and how to substitute veterinary medications, or herbs, to treat different illnesses. I keep chincona bark in my medicine cabinet (the natural source that quinine is made from). So I knew the blacklisting of the much safer “official” version had some other motive rather than treating illness.
And then the first Ivermectin study came out in April of 2020 … but the government blacklisted it. I mean, seriously … my dog’s heartworm medication? I wasn’t sure it would treat covid, but I sure as hell knew it wasn’t dangerous as my equestrian daughter used to give that stuff to pregnant mares. That was a when their push for a vaccine became public, only it was an experimental vaccine which had never been tried before, and we were told to stay locked down and wait, rather than take these two medications that showed promise.
Now step back to the 1980’s … I worked for the biomedical research lab that used to quote “shepherd problematic drugs through the FDA approval process” (i.e., they were hired guns). “Massaging” the data to help a problematic drug to pass FDA approval (without fixing the problem), while “dissing” a competing drug by coming up with a “clinical trial” that was designed to fail, was something that was their specialty. Whoever got FDA approval first usually became the dominant name-brand and got the lion’s share of market share, so drug companies would fund studies to fluff up their own data and sabotage a competitors drug all the time. In other words, I’d seen the “out-of-patent drug that WORKS, vs. dangerous new drug that will make a ton of money” game before.
THAT was what made me start digging deeper into the ACTUAL science, and not just the fluff that our government and medical community kept telling us. Instead of “trusting the science,” I READ the science. And wasn’t fooled.
I am a transplant recipient and read everything I could about the mRNA gene therapy shot. I knew it was a poison death shot from the very beginning. I have 10% of my immune system I cannot risk losing a fraction of a %. I believed this “Flu” could be treated and started looking for a treatment, I needed to find a treatment because I was high risk. I found IVM and Dr’s McCullough, Malone, Zelenko, Kory. This shot was not the answer.
It was always a hard NO, even when Trump was in charge. When it became popular and a fad, spider senses was tinkling. If the culture want it then it must be bad, because the devil runs the culture
Have read enough comments to realize that many of us were spared these shots because of the years of gaslighting; all the lying about President Trump had turned huge numbers off of mainstream media propaganda and into die-hard skeptics.
Of course previous false narratives had started this effect, from The Vietnam War, Walter Cronkite newscasts, the Nixon takedown with the clever “plumbers” needing to be covered up, the near-instant writing of the Patriot Act, the reams of lies about Obama, then the events in Benghazi, Fast and Furious gun running, the Trayvon Martin childhood picture and major false editing of that story … we just couldn’t take anything they say as real anymore.
Had it not been for the years of proving themselves untrustworthy more would have fallen victim to their big sale.
When the insanity started in 2020, I followed the news very closely. I knew early on that there was only a smallish segment of the population that had much to worry about. Even though I was in my 50’s, as I was healthy and reasonably fit, that segment did not include me. As a result, I never had any interest in getting some rushed, experimental substance injected into my body. The more hysterical the media and “health authorities” became, and the more obvious it became that they were lying and manipulating data, the more satisfied I was with my decision.
My wife and daughter also declined the jabs; my son was unfortunately a strong believer in them. This caused some serious friction. My son has so far been fortunate in avoiding heart problems to the best of my knowledge (though he did need an emergency appendectomy, which may or may not be related to the shot). My wife, daughter, and I have all remained healthy.
Sundance,
I almost immediately saw the WuFlu for what it was: a ‘Rat/CCP plot to destroy our economy so as to derail President Trump’s certain march to reelection. I refused to “mask up” anyplace I went, told my company there wasn’t a hope in Hell that I would take ANY vax for WuFlu, and told everyone I knew that taking a vaccine issued on an emergency use authorization was taking an incredible risk. Most didn’t listen.
I did get WuFlu, along with my wife and daughter. I slept most of about ten days while taking hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Our doctor, a personal friend, also prescribed us a steroid inhaler after about a week. That seemed to put us over the top on the road to recovery and we never looked back. I may have gotten it one other time since but it was mild and I never bothered to get tested.
I had the advantage of having worked in a fairly high position in the FedGov for about ten years and thus being well aware they wouldn’t hesitate one nanosecond to lie to the American people if someone in authority deemed it necessary. I was also lucky enough to live in a state where the state legislature passed a “no mandate” law for the vaxxes, thus making it impossible for them to force me to choose between my job and my health.
The longer the charade went on, the less patience I had for it. I told a number of well-meaning busybodies to keep their damned opinions to themselves about the vaxxes, and told people who wanted me to “mask up” that they could take their masks and go straight to Hell with them because I WOULD NOT COMPLY. I didn’t comply, and I’m now very proud of that.
I saw an award certificate a week ago which said, “CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT awarded to THE UNVACCINATED for surviving the greatest psychological fear campaign in human history.” ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!!!
My most sincere congratulations go to all those who held out against all the overwhelming forces brought to bear by the dishonest government, media, medical profession, and employers, and who refused to be bullied and buffaloed into denying their own good judgment. The prize you all win is having saved your good health despite a treacherous and direly dangerous attack on it from those you SHOULD have been able to trust.
Jokingly, the vaxed, should be masked, as those with repeated bouts of C19, seem generally to be vaxed & still taking boosters.
A turn around approach to those who skewered the non vaxed, like I.
Realistically, I do not support mandating masks, vaxes, lockdowns or other forms of tyranny!
The irony is that at about 60 days data from around the world reflects that the injected are not protected and at 90 days their immune system is blunted and actually getting infected at higher rates.
“Original Antigenic Sin”. The super spreaders we were purported to be. Natural antibodies lasting at least 364 days, the end of the study, will protect the majority with lower risk of those who remain unjabbed.
Ironic that the folks who fear me the most because I’m not in the jab fan club, may actually turnout to be the super spreaders themselves that they were so desperate to avoid.
Some even had the view that the government should make me be a star bellied sneech too.
So I would be just like the cool kids.
I would thank them but they don’t come by anymore.☺
Same here. People do not want me around, but God does. He loves me. That’s all I need.
Amen🙏
I stressed out, but in the end God sent me peace. Thank you for your story. Shine on!
primarily, i never take vaccines since I was a small child. No flu shots…
I noticed that the discussion was heavily politicized, but I never had any intention to take it. I even lied to friends and said I did. I lied to family and said I wanted to wait, even though I knew in my heart I never would. I was excluded from holiday gatherings because of that.
Best friend of 55 years, told me she could not invite me to thanksgiving dinner (having been invited for 20 years), because I am not vaxxed. Poor thing……..resolved to let her go…….very sad.
Bonny, I understand that uninvited “thing”. Mine started to occur right after PDJT won and only accelerated. I too am not Vaxed as are 50% of my immediate family of 6 (husband, two daughters and then my two sons and I). My coping mechanism has been to let them go. I am 100% confident in my vaccination non-status and sometimes walking a different path adds many delights and pleasures along the way. I could have agreed to disagree, but my let go “friends” were incapable and unwilling. Oh and Bonny you are always welcome to my Thanksgiving, vexed or not ❤️ Live in NY and my door is always open.
” I understand that uninvited “thing”. Mine started to occur right after PDJT won and only accelerated. ”
Ding, Ding, Ding !
Exactly our experience as well.
I am reminded that Jesus said your mother, brother, sister, etc. was he who did your father’s will.
I have stopped flu shots now. Never again. I think we need to rethink a lot of the medication we take as well as vaccines for kids.
They lie. All the time. They are incapable of truth. Did no one notice that Impeachment 2.0 was a dud and a new line of attack was needed, like they always do? Did no one see Fauci’s prediction of a pandemic at a medical conference in 2017? mRNA? Really? I know how my immune system works (I paid attention in Biology in HS). This is not how it works. This is not how any of this works.
Blame my mother. All throughout life she hounded me, “God gave you a brain, now use it!” and the classic “If everybody else jumps off a bridge, will you too?”
Your mother must know my mother!
Oh Boy! I sure heard both of those sayings from my mom! So glad I did!!!
Absolutely right. I remember specifically how the DAY AFTER Impeachment #2 failed, the media did a pivot and started hyperventilating about the Wuhan virus. It was sometime around February 5th. I had heard people talking about it online for over a month by then. I figured the media were just grasping at straws in their obsession to stop Trump with anything that would stick; had not realized the whole pandemic thing had been planned until a few months later.
PART ONE OF TWO PARTS: I’m old enough to have been in the Army during the Cuban Missile Crisis (1962), standing on the airport tarmac behind the running-transport plane’s exhaust-winds, with the rest of my fellow soldiers in the Second Infantry Division, as we prepared to get aboard – with full combat gear, to invade Cuba. At the time, Cuba (Castro/Khrushchev) had a couple dozen nuclear-tipped warheads – only 90 miles away, aimed directly at most of our major cities on the East coast. It was at that point I realized politics is life or death. As a result, I’ve spent most of my adult life paying attention to which politicians fully support America – like JFK did in that epic political stare-down, and which politicians are questionable, who are corrupt, or who have un-American global aspirations.
When Covid arrived in early 2020, I had already had a terrible, congestive, 104° temperature flu over Christmas/New Years of 2019. I never get flu shots and I rarely if ever get the flu. In the national news, it was reported the CDC was looking into a “new viral flu.” THAT WAS MY RED FLAG…the CDC!
In all my years of voting for president, I had never recalled a president who was as divisive, so connected to socialist policies, and who was so promoting of far-left agendas as Barack Obama. BECAUSE OF OBAMA, I had already been following the CDC for over a year before Covid arrived. Due to the fact, in only a short-time in office Obama had quickly realigned the CDC’s ‘mission goals,’ to direct their agency monies to social causes such as, “Why Lesbians Get Fat,” and other lunacy issues, instead of fulfilling their main mission of studying and creating vaccines. In previously studying Obama and the CDC, I knew that the CDC posted a WEEKLY NEWSLETTER on their website, which I had already been reading from time to time. So, when I got the flu in 2019, I went online two weeks later – in January of 2020 – and downloaded the first two CDC newsletters of 2020. It was revelatory.
In their first two newsletters, I found that the (American) CDC, was in touch with the Chinese version of their CDC, and the Chinese CDC had been in touch with their research facilities in Wuhan, and they were both coordinating a response to our U.S. CDC, to inform them they felt it was not a transmissible virus, and they would keep our CDC updated. I NEED TO POINT OUT, that President Trump immediately (within those 2-weeks into 2020) formed a small American taskforce to assess this virus problem and to report to him ASAP. Every name, institution, fact, et al, in those newsletters, helped guide me in my research of this new virus. The second part tomorrow, will explain why I never got the shot and never will.
Alpha, never forget that the reason the Russkies put missiles onto Cuba in 1962 was because Eisenhower put missiles in Turkey in 1959……..
Yup, and part of the deal to end the Cuban crisis was to remove those same missiles from Turkey. Funny, that part never made it into the history books!
When I read that Fauci and other national medical leaders stated that masks don’t work and then reversed themselves I immediately looked up studies on the efficacy of masks. This was in March 2020.
Those studies proved that masks didn’t work.
Soon after, the internet was completely scrubbed of those same studies. I knew then that there was a New Big Lie afoot.
Clinical trials take 5-10 years. No new medical technology can be ready from drawing board to public consumption in 9 months.
The time factor is an essential part of the clinical trial process.
It cannot be jettisoned the way that it was and be declared safe.
I had read an earlier Indian publication on prior mRNA vaccine research and it’s disastrous outcomes. Predictions on likely human response were included. I sent the article to all my contacts. When my “doctor” asked me why I did not want the shot…I told him, because I can read….