I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
I took two jabs of the Moderna vaccine. Why? Because I worked in a VA hospital in 2020. I basically “had no choice”. But fortunately for me, I was asymptomatic with COVID the day I received my first jab and came down with mild symptoms that night. My wife was COVID positive at the time. I was “over” symptoms after 2 days. My immune system did its job long before the vaccine could corrupt it. As the hidden and dangerous side effects leaked into the media, I refused any boosters. I believe I escaped relatively unharmed. Emphasis on “believe”……
I pray nothing happens to you. My mom took Moderna jab and booster Feb ’21 Aug ’21, died Nov ’21 after Myocarditis…
Anecdotals by Jennifer Sharp (bitchute.com)
I answered with my reason for not getting jabbed last night but I just wanted to add this thought and question:
Has anybody in MSM or even alternative media asked the health “experts” how is it that they developed and produced hundreds of millions of this “vaccine” ( I dislike calling it that but for the sake of discussion I will)
But after 2 plus years of continuing manufacturing the EUA formula they have never been able to manufacture the “fully approved” Comirnity? Still after 2 years the approved batch is not available.
Evil is all around us.May God bless all of us and keep us safe from Satans snares
I did not take the shot.
I’m not an anti-vax when i decided not take the shot, However I knew by the end of March 2020 this whole Covid thing was not about health.
After reading the book Turtles all the way down I have become an anti-vaxxer.
Me too! No more government approved jabs for me! EVER!
I took the first two Moderna jabs. One in December 2019 and the other in January 2020. at 70, with a COPD diagnosis, I took the first two shots on the advice of my doctor. she has since retired and her replacement is a big vaxer and booster. after much research I have now acquired a Doctor Who is a member of the FLCCC alliance and I’m being treated with ivermectin prophylactically.
No I did not take the shot. Too many things not rational… I did watch and listen. Decrement. Only one calm was POTUS and they started attacking him right off so I new something was up.
It smelled when we needed a vaccine for a disease with a 99% survival rate. Couldn’t get past that. Never took the vaccine, never will. Spent 9 days in a California hospital with Covid. Close to kidney failure from the remdesivir. Thank goodness I could advocate for myself and say NO when medical advice didn’t sound right. Experience just cemented what I already knew, no vaccine for me.
Just seemed like common sense to me.
Why put my good health at risk for an experimental mystery vaccine?
It was developed at warp speed, and I don’t trust the gubmint with anything.
My wife and I have separate educational disciplines : mine finance as in the stock market & her’s medical as a former NICU nurse with a BS degree . As a Trump supporter , I have a deep distrust of the Federal government given the Russia…russia…russia narrative . Seeing comments from Billie Gates ( the pedophile ) about a health crisis as well as Dr. Fraudski’s prediction of a crisis lead me to believe the Deep State would do anything to get rid of Trump .
As a result , my wife & I early on researched mortality data and basic statistics gave us confidence covid would flow thru the population with minimal deaths . Of course , the Deep State hijacked that approach so as to cause hysteria . We then focused on the spike protein . It seemed like a big risk for little return and a rushed process . To approve an EUA ‘vaccine ‘ using new technology would seem to require a much longer and thorough testing process .
Lastly , we have lived in big cities but no longer . The concentration of people around us is much less dense . I would say our lives were little disrupted as a result except when traveling to college towns . Those citizens were and still are just nuts .
Our city friends begged us to get the EUA . We experienced long time friends who would do anything to break to the front of the line for the EUA – and still will . Language itself has been hijacked – vaccine…pandemic..others . Pandemic ! Covid would hardly register against the Spanish Flu . Everything seemed rushed for a purpose . And it still feels that way .
Pure Bloods .
What I wonder is, does the vaccine wear off after a time period and the body goes back into its natural defense mode? How long-lasting are these vaccines once injected into the body?
The spike proteins never leave.
They do not know that yet if the Covid vax lasts forever, but they do keep giving people boosters.
I think if you are vaxed, the spike protein is in your body at least 6 weeks. I say that because my cousin, who had cancer and was getting scans every 4 weeks after his chemo was done, was vaccinated with m-RNA.
His first scan after vax showed his lymph nodes all lit up, as if the cancer had returned. After 6 weeks they had returned to normal size.
The doctors treating cancer saw similar results in their vaxxed patients and it was the result of the Covid protein in the vax and not returning cancer that was affecting the lymph glands.
See the latest video of Dr John Campbell on YT with Professor Robert Clancy who has an AO for services to medicine and Immunology and an Emeritus professo of Pathology on this very topic. I learnt a lot that is new about the spike protein.
Only time will tell. But most researching it, believe it is permanent. It should not be looked at in the typical sense of a vaccine (dead or weakened virus meant to trigger a specific immune response by creating antibodies).
It is synthetic. They are finding traces of it stored in vital organs. Think of it more as acting like a trigger for a variety of immune responses- none of which are good.
“HOW LONG DOES RNA FROM THE COVID VACCINE STAY IN YOUR BODY?”
https://www.brighteon.com/15c6a1a7-16c0-4a66-9bd6-e9e1a000b86e
Only time will tell. But most researching it, believe it is permanent. It should not be looked at in the typical sense of a vaccine (dead or weakened virus meant to trigger a specific immune response by creating antibodies).
It is synthetic. They are finding traces of it stored in vital organs. Think of it more as acting like a trigger for a variety of immune responses- none of which are good.
“HOW LONG DOES RNA FROM THE COVID VACCINE STAY IN YOUR BODY?”
https://www.brighteon.com/15c6a1a7-16c0-4a66-9bd6-e9e1a000b86e
At the time the news of a China sourced virus began to surface I had just turned 57 years old. My husband, 59. I am employed at a large regional bank in the Midwest and have been for over 18 years. My husband is retired due to a stroke in 2018, caused by a previously unknown genetic blood clotting disorder. Prior to any knowledge (or admission) that the virus had been discovered in the US, I came down with it. I know this because I took an antibody test that confirmed. My husband never became ill from it that first time, whether he was just asymptomatic or not we don’t know. This was mid January 2020.
in my position at the bank as a commercial credit officer, the next several months were a blur as all hands were on deck as thousands, more than a years worth, of PPP loans were rushing in to be processed. As the country was being shut down, social distanced and quarantined, we were working side by side, 12+ hours a day 7 days per week. Masking had not yet been implemented either. Not one person got sick during the entire time.
During that time I was mostly skeptical about whether this thing was even real. What I had experienced when I got sick was about 5 days of feeling bad, fever, congestion, cough. H1N1 was WAY worse worse than this was. For several months, nobody I knew had gotten Covid. Nobody! I thought this was planned and being used as a means to some end. I had moments where I thought maybe I was being willfully blind by not buying into what was being shoved down our throats. But my common sense kept winning over the BS.
The leadership at the bank was all-in with mandates. First it was masking started July 2020. All had to be masked from entry into the building until seated at your desk. Then you were allowed to take it off. Somehow the desk has an invisible bubble that keeps the virus away. Next, the irrational fear about anyone getting sick, taking sick days. All had to be tested and share the results. Then quarantined if positive, or exposed to anyone who tested positive. One of my employees had to quarantine 5 different times, nit because he tested positive, but someone who did reported to HR that he was a “close contact”. He never got Covid btw.
Finally came the vax. This was an extreme pressure campaign that lasted a year and a half. Initially the message was that there would be no requirement to get it, it’s your choice. I thought, great! Then the daily emails and message banners that appeared on our computer screens, like those on the bottom of the screen on CNN that scroll across telling us “We care about the safety of all of you. Report your vaccination to HR. It’s the responsible thing to do.” Next came the regular emails with the symbolism like when there is a fundraising campaign and they show a thermometer with the red line moving upward toward the goal of 100%, only this was showing number of good responsible vaxed colleagues.
The pressure continued with monetary incentives to get the shot. They pay time off to go get it, and all boosters. There s also HSA money. Those who chose not to share vax status now pay higher health insurance rates. I consider it a price to pay to keep my privacy. I consistently refuse to participate in the biometric screening scam that started when Obamacare was rolled out. I don’t want the banks money for my HSA, I’ll take that pretax deferral myself and keep my blood pressure, cholesterol and BMI between me and my doctor.
During 2021, the push to get everyone vaxed was intense. The numbers in the credit department that reported being vaxed stalked out at around 80%. The Chairman and CEO regularly sent emails to all employees spewing lies, such as all deaths were unvaxed, all hospitalizations were unvaxed, unvaxed are conspiracy theorists, needing to be convinced. It was shocking. The chief credit officer, head of my department, obtained a list of all who had not reported vax status and began calling them up to see him. When they complied, he asked them their status and if they were intimidated enough, shared it. He strongly recommended they consider getting it. As for me, I was being promoted, unbeknownst to me, and summoned to meet with him. Thinking the purpose was to bully me, I came prepared to record the conversation. Once in the room I was caught off guard with a promotion. We chatted for a bit, then there it was, the vax question. I told him I was not vaxed. He said “surely you’re going to get it, right?” I said probably not. I left the meeting with a promotion and regret that I had not kept my status private. Since that day I have been publicly shamed, excluded from in person meetings, excluded from attending group functions, the department sumner picnic and other events. I have never felt more unwelcome anywhere.
I am proud that I was strong enough not to cave under the pressure. My husband did not have to deal with the same kind of pressure thankfully as he cannot take that shot due to his blood disorder. He is like me though and would never have done it anyway. I vowed after the past more than 2 years of abuse, that as soon as I am able I would retire from the bank. That date will be April 7 this year.
Thank you Sundance and fellow Treepers. This is a place I come to daily where I feel welcome. Hard to know what the truth is these days. This place feel like it to me.
Thank you for your very detailed account of life under “vaccine” pressure. I was lucky to already be retired and thus didn’t have to factor that in to my decision. I was waiting for my former employer to require it for my benefits. I know they considered it.
Best wishes on your retirement. I hope you enjoy it as much as I’m enjoying mine.
If anyone can’t see this is a depopulation agenda they are clueless.
My wife got sick with what we thought was the flu at Thanksgiving time . Real sick for 2 weeks then couldn’t shake cough for about 3 weeks . ( looking back we now think it was probably the corona virus ) then around that time the government and media started warning about a new pandemic . They said the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed , people were gonna die etc etc . At first I thought ok what do we have to do to not get sick with this virus . And the government issued guidelines like use hand sanitizer, wear a surgical mask , etc etc blah blah blah . As soon as they said healthy people should wear a mask I knew it was all bunch of bullshit . Then they wanted everybody to get vaccinated . I rarely get sick , didn’t get sick the whole time this was going on. So there was no way I was getting the jab . I never get a flu shot .I sure won’t get any vaccine for this flu virus . Was considered an essential worker so I never missed any work , but they did force us to wear masks .but me and enough of my co-workers said we will not , so they didn’t enforce it . Same with the jab a majority of my co- workers said hell no so they gave that up .Never wore a mask anywhere never waited in line anywhere ( like Walmart where they only let 50 people in at a time) . I just walked right by everybody . Some people got pissed. Some people got out of line and went with me . Had a Walmart associate line moniter yell at me you have to wear a mask it’s state law ! A couple of family members got the first 2 shots ( none of my family members are liberal or democrat) none have experienced ill health from it. But none will ever get it again . Thank the good Lord. we are a conservative , patriotic , gun and hunting loving , Trump loving , God fearing family from Ohio . And I will vote for Trump if I have to write his name in . I’m beginning to think he is the ONLY one that is not bought off in the entire elected political sphere .
Love it! During that time, I refused to purchase from local businesses that required masking. They suffered so heavily that they dropped the requirement (little town in Idaho). If I had to go into a store that required masks, like a grocery store, I just ignored the signs, and all the little arrows they put on the floor to tell people which way to walk, I walked the opposite way! I would purposefully wander about just ignoring the ridiculousness of it all. The only place I ever wore a mask was for a doctor’s appointment. And I knew it was ridiculous to wear one.
I did not take it because it is EXPERIMENTAL. That alone should be the determining factor.
EXPERIMENTAL + release of any liability for Big Pharma = Nope
My in -laws were Holocaust survivors. I knew too much about the insidious evil of governments, including ours. My father was a Jewish Sargeant in WWII. When he started talking, 50 years later, he would tell us stories of anti Semitism and stupidity like an officer not being able to read a map and almost leading his group to the enemy.Just like the ship sent to NY, the
Central Park fiasco, Memorial Hospital in my city was empty.
Here’s what the STUPID classified documents news diversion may be all about. The NFL player’s collapse may have been the opening door for our idiocracy to ask the right questions, especially when combined with these news items, all on the same day. But the MSM, including Faux, is falling for the diversion. Why? “Brought to you by Pfizer.”
FDA Adviser Says Young And Healthy People Shouldn’t Get Latest COVID Boosters
JAN 14, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fda-adviser-says-young-and-healthy-people-shouldnt-get-latest-covid-boosters
COVID Vaccines Are “Obviously Dangerous” And Should Be Halted Immediately, Say Senior Swedish Doctors
JAN 14, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/covid-vaccines-are-obviously-dangerous-and-should-be-halted-immediately-say-senior-swedish
CDC Says Stroke Concerns Over Pfizer Jab Warrant Investigation
JAN 14, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-says-stroke-concerns-over-pfizer-jab-warrant-investigation
Doctor Calls For Withdrawal Of Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 Vaccines Following New Research
JAN 14, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/doctor-calls-withdrawal-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines-following-new-research
The following was from the already PUBLIC data even before the release of all Pfizer “trials” data was mandated. It is an outstanding technical analysis of that data in a video made over a year ago:
“Pfizer’s own 6 month report data on its COVID-19 inoculation shows that greater illness and death in the inoculation arm than the placebo arm. Plus, poor trial design, missing data, underpowered studies, passive surveillance and more.”
The Pfizer (Mass) Inoculations Do More Harm Than Good
https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html
Tip off Flu spread during President election in past, name change advertising trying to sell something. Way to fast to be tested and Bill Gates Mr update. Never would I let them make me a vaccine junky update all the time now at 4 booster the big oops
I work in the medical field (Skilled nursing and rehab- nursing home) and I was pretty much forced to get the vaccine. I tried for the religious exemption, but got no support from my company. I was probably going to quit, but my son who is a senior at college was forced to get vaccinated or lose his chance at graduating. So, he had to get it. I decided to get vaccinated with him to support him. We got the non-mRNA J&J vaccine.
When we got to the county health dept, they really pushed the Pfizer vaccine even though we wanted the non-mRNA J&J vaccine. We told them no, and they marked us as different and had to get the J&J vaccine from a deep freezer.
We were fine after the vaccination, but the guy next to us who got the Pfizer vaccine passed out and had to be placed in a wheelchair and whisked away. It was surreal. We did not get any boosters and we never will.
One a side note, when they started giving boosters to our residents, several long term stable patients died.
Wow. What a time to be on hiatus from this treehouse! How did I miss THIS thread?
I have so many reasons not to respect the ‘managed care’ model in general. I realize that many doctors have had their hands tied for YEARS now. Our medical care is primarily driven by insurance reimbursements, Big Harma and, apparently, even DARPA??
Too many people just sit back and ‘trust the science,’ never questioning their doctors.
BIG mistake.
This time, however, was different, even for ME, truth be told. I was always inclined to do my own research and question my doctors. But THIS time, it was something else entirely that drove my initial resistance.
I had a VISION. It was a WARNING.
I know that God has other plans for me. I pray for humanity to wake up to the horror of transhumanism.
Not enough room or time to give all the reasons I refused to take the jab along with insisting our immediate family members did not as well. They all agreed with me even when other family members and friends did not.
First, COVID is a biological weapon. Everybody had to know that if they are honest with themselves. Fauci, Baric, Birx, etc. are all connected to the Clintons and the Chi-coms and have been for decades.
Second, the same people who developed the weapon are involved in developing the vaccines and new treatments/meds. They are the same people who removed the inexpensive treatments that work, IVM and HCQ, from public access through the CDC acting as dictators of policy.
Third, the mortality rate was next to nothing compared to other infectious diseases. Fear porn is fear porn.
Fourth, anybody who knows anything about respiratory diseases knows you need Vitamin D to help thwart their advance. The evil doers cut access to public parks and beaches. They wanted you to stay away from public places.
Fifth, masks have been proven to be ineffective for transmissible respiratory diseases for 40 years, just like social distancing. To develop immunity from viruses, one must be around them. Pediatricians have known this forever as they know schools and daycares are breeding grounds that help kids develop their immunities. Said pediatricians then decided they would lie and cover up the truth to keep their medical licenses.
Sixth, after years of watching the DS attack PDT with lies and committing crimes against us all – I am going to suddenly decide they have our best interests at heart? Uh, nope.
Seventh, these are not vaccines. They are gene therapies that were never fully clinically tested as all vaccines must be before FDA approval and release to the public. Warp Speed is a disaster. It takes 5-7 years minimum to bring an effective vaccine to market.
Eighth, the CDC and industry began changing the definition of “vaccine” a decade in advance of this now proven to be planned event. Which I suspected even at the time would be a planned event of some sort associated with a pandemic like so many other scares through the years.
Ninth, I trusted none of the people who said you should take the jab. None. They all have done things in their past that called into question their character.
Tenth, anybody who had not already figured out our nation was at war when this rolled out should have their heads examined.
Then there are all the things that happened and were said after its implementation that everybody on here has already talked about that confirmed my analysis from the start.
Thanks for providing a forum for this, SD. Be blessed for your efforts.
Nice post!
“we’re the Government and we’re here to help….”
as soon as I heard that along with “safe and effective” I ran a mile. And then kept on running when the hate/psyops started.
I have SD to thank for pointing out the strings on the marionettes. Now I see them everywhere.
None of my immediate family are perforated.
I’ve been to carnivals before. Way back then we tried to not be rubes, but people now are too smart to be fooled by something so simple as being told the world will end if they don’t take a shot. Besides that, we no longer judge people and tell them that they are doing something stupid, like taking a shot of an unapproved drug to prevent a disease that hasn’t occurred. I couldn’t foresee the governmental steps would follow, but the drug itself was a sideshow that lured people in and is still doing so.
In 2011 in College, I did a research paper on vaccines. Read books like Destroying Illusions. In High School I had found letter from doctors who worked in Africa during the HIV crises there. Letters revealed the doctors wrote congress to warn that the vaccines were giving HIV to the people there. 2019, I read about the military Olympics, there were reports of a sickness in China. November 2019, I found Clif high. My distrust of vaccines began in High school. My distrust of the government began after 9-11. That is why I did not take the vaccine. That is why my family is safe.
Seeing the ‘suddenly available videos’ coming from ‘chYna’, was when I decided the bat flu was likely a psyOp. And, I had a a wee bit of knowledge about the Wuhan Labs activities. Lastly, I saw no excess bodies, anywhere, from a ‘deadly’ flu, despite the Enemedia’s fear mongering.
FYI: I once believed the the .gov lies. Remember ‘asbestos’? Not a single case of ‘asbestosis or mesothelioma’ documented from all our years being ‘exposed’ at school, in public buildings or housing. And. don’t get me started on the masks.
I didn’t take the jab. I learned decades ago to never, ever trust anything government and unelected bureaucrats say, recommend or mandate; and especially bureaucrats in lab coats who receive “royalty checks” from pharmaceutical companies.
To date, I haven’t been hit by the China Virus, but my wallet sure as Hell has.
I did not take the jab initially because as a science major in college many years ago when schools still taught science I noticed that Pfizer and Moderna had cancelled their control groups. I KNOW and any 8th grade science student knows that no control group = no science.
Then months later I noticed brain fog in people in my orbit, then irritability followed by irrational behavior as the brain is slowly damaged by the synthetic spike protein in the jab. The shape of the spike protein abrades the inner lining, ( endothelium ) of the blood vessels, inflaming them and limiting blood flow leading to brain fog, irritability and irrational behavior over a period of about a year. “This is why so many people say and do stupid things in the last 2 years”. Brain damage caused by the jab is why. Coming soon is the unprecedented death caused by destruction to the immune system and other critical organs in the body that will be unfolding over the next 5 years. Key people around the world are exhibiting this brain damage and still are making decisions for all of us with consequences for all of us yet they are impaired by the jab.
I have noticed an increase in crazy drivers lately which I believe is due to this brain fog. Will anyone do a study on car accidents? Look at that doctor in California that drove his Tesla of a cliff with his wife and two children!
As a PhD Microbiologist, I was skeptical about both the mRNA injections (Pfizer, Moderna), as well as the adenoviral vector DNA injection (J&J). These were new untested technologies, and there pace of development and rush to deployment was extremely alarming.
From a simple immunology standpoint, any intervention meant to ellicit you own body to make an antigen to which your own immune system will react is a dangerous idea. As we now are seeing, the pharmacodynamics of these injections’ contents were clearly not fully understood before deployment, not only in terms of the localized or systemic transport of the injected material around the body, but also how long the injected material would continue to force the body’s cells to make the spike protein.
Additionally, my suspicion was further raised by: 1) the suppression of information about promising safe and widely available therapeutics; 2) downplaying the importance and strength of natural immunity; 3) the idea that everybody needed to be injected regardless of their actual risk of severe outcomes based on age/comorbidities, and; 4) the fact that no traditional vaccines based on dead or inactivated SARS-CoV-2 virus (or viral components) was even being evaluated in western countries.
On top of these concerns was the fact that all the EUA injections at the time used human fetal stem cell lines at some point in their development, testing, or production. As a Christian, I could not willingly accept something that was tied to abortion.
As I work for a federal contractor company, when the mandates started, I had to do some heavy thinking on whether I would continue my 25+ year career as a research scientist, or sadly retire early. The approval of Novavax seemed tobe continually being delayed, and even then I was not sure I would take that, given the adverse health issues tied to the spike protein itself, devoid of an actual C19 infection. Fortunately, my compnay did have an accomodation process, and I was granted a religious exemption. About the same time, the first injunctions of the Biden mandates started.
I had my round of Delta in November 2021. It was a little rough, but I made it through, while also availing myself of Vit C, D, zinc, and some of the “horse medicine” in tablet form. With my acquired natural immunity, I have either avoided being infected, or have had such minimal symptomatic or asymptomatic infections with the various subsequent Omicron strains that they were no more than a stuffy nose or sinus congestion, which I have every year regardless.
Futhermore, my co-workers, all of whom were all-in getting their primary series (sometimes driving 100 miles to get them), as well as taking multiple boosters, have almost all gotten Covid, some time a few times.
Great post!
‘The approval of Novavax seemed to be continually being delayed’
True, it was.
I heard a lot of negative information early so decided not take the jab. I had mild symptoms a few times and took 1/5 horse dose of ivermectin and was fin in the morning. My wife, who has dementia, went to the hospital with a unrelated problem. While there she tested her for covid and was put in isolation where I could not visit her. I signed her out and took her home and gave her ivermectin for a week . She never had any symptoms.
Greetings, fellow Treepers. As many others, I was initially VERY concerned about a developing pandemic, because I am a student of history, and know what that could mean. It didn’t take me long to think something was fishy. I am also a voracious reader and science nerd. So when I heard “mRNA” “vaccine”…I almost fell down clutching my skull from the alarm bells that went off in my head. No thank you, I like my DNA and immune system, flawed as it is, JUST the way it is. Thank you very much!! As to my experience after refusing this experimentation, I am surrounded by people who RAN to get these injections, MULTIPLE times!! I did ask them if they could please wait to see what reactions others experience, feeling like trying to explain mRNA ramifications would not work. They ran anyway. These people are personal friends and loved ones, people I see every day. They never shunned me as unvax’d, like I heard some experiencing, but they all treated me as the poor victim of misinformation. Which is RICH. Some said I was just being stubborn. So here I am, scared to death for my family and friends because they did this to themselves. One recently became sick with the worst cold I have ever seen him with. I never caught it from him, despite close proximity, and I firmly believe these episodes will continue to get worse. Let’s all say a prayer for the vax’d.
I sent a answer yesterday but need to elaborate. When my lovely wife pleaded with me to take the jab….because she and my sons and wives were all doing it…for the safety of our Grandchildren…I was confronted with my biggest dilemma….”Do I take something. I know in my heart and in my mind is dangerous and meant to harm us just to get along, to not be banned from my Grandchildren, so I could go to Disney is several months on a long planned family trip?
and I had to shoot straight with her….that if I was right, I may be the only adult left our family to care for our Grandchildren. And she stopped, and she stared, mouth agape….She had not thought of that, not at all. She responded many seconds later that why would I want to be here all alone if everyone else was gone….and I had to say something that even horrifies me now…..that someone in the family needed to hold the hand of the last dying child or adult and give them succor and peace as they go back to their real home.
I have never written this down, have not even contemplated it in quite awhile becau the idea of it is too much to bear. I only share it with all of you now because of my implicit trust and understanding of the Conservative Treehouse family, one of the Remnants who will stand if all hell breaks loose. I pray, and I mean get down on your knees PRAY ….that I am wrong and that God can forgive us and help us find a way through this living hell.
“In 1992, Dr. Fauci’s NAIAD approved secretive trials of AZT and other dangerous drugs on foster children in New York City, nearly all of them African American. According to Jamie Doran, who produced the Guinea Pig Kids documentary for the BBC, “many of the children had been taken by force from their parents or guardians and put into either foster homes or children’s homes in the city.”
In these homes, including the Incarnation Children’s Center in Harlem, “they were carrying out tests which even under federal rules are certainly illegal. You have to be clear, to use foster children in experimentation, it’s prohibited unless there is a direct benefit to those children.” That was hardly the case.
“We’re talking about up to 20 drugs in a single cocktail given to individual children,” Doran said. “We’re talking about drugs like didanozine, which is a very toxic drug; zidovudine, which is the famous AZT which can cause severe anemia; nevirapine, that’s the drug that’s been known to cause Steven Johnson’s Syndrome, which is an enormously painful flaking of the skin,” appearing “as if a young child has just been pulled from a fire.”
Nurses were told that if the kids were vomiting, losing their ability to walk, or dying, “this was all because of an HIV infection.” The children improved when taken off the drugs but the NIAID researchers then took away the children, who were “totally and utterly vulnerable.” Christine Grady hasn’t made it clear what she thinks of this horrendous episode.
Dr. Fauci’s wife is Christine Grady, in charge of bioethics at NIH. She and her husband were in charge of the vax rollout. They profited financially from this Covid pandemic.
I find your reasoning quite powerful and compassionate.
Your story made me literally cry. Half of our children bought into this and were jabbed and are having our grandchildren jabbed at our horror. They cannot see the truth. God help them and we are Praying Hard for them, for All of Humanity.
Thank you Iron Man for bringing up the reality which I pray about every day. I am very troubled by the possibility that you raise. May God help us to be strong. And yes I will keep praying.
I am in 100% agreement with you. We may be “the last man standing” when this is all said and done. I pray every day that God gives me the strength, wisdom, and compassion to carry on.
I have read through Revelations several times these past couple of years.
Crying here and praying you are wrong.
Into words, you have to encapsulated the horror that “they” subjected us to.
Thank you.
If this depopulation effort is effective on humans, as it was on lab animals, much is going to be asked of Iron Men. I hope this is not the case.
That brought me to tears, and I don’t cry easily. I pray a lot that people’s eyes would be opened, there are so many people deceived.
Despite being conspiracy-minded myself I did not take the shot primarily for the plain-jane reason that there was not and could not have been long-term testing. That’s what I told people, it might be fine, but it also might not be, and there was no way to know, and I was not willing to take on that irreversible risk.
As a consequence I had to change jobs and tolerate some family strife.
However I now regret that my position allowed for considerable uncertainty, because it meant that I didn’t vigorously try to persuade family and friends not to take the shot. Although chances are they wouldn’t have listened anyway.
The shot has taken dozens of acquaintances, people from church, spouses and adult children of community members and coworkers. So now I live with the uneasiness that the next bomb may fall on a close family member and blow up our current living arrangements in which my daughter is thriving.
Now that we are less naive than before, we also highly regret having acquiesced to the childhood vaccination schedule for my daughter. She seems to be doing fine thankfully.
I begged extended family members not to take the experimental “vaccine”/clot shot/gene therapy. I shared research with them. My begging did absolutely no good with one exception. Just one. Just so you know. My adult children did listen to me, but one grandson did not. I pray for him every day.
I didn’t understand why an experimental “vaccine” was imperative when the Covid-19 survival rate was over 99% for most age groups. That fact coupled with the lack of long term studies made me sit on the fence. The “vaccine” was unavailable in my area until late Spring 2020 and during the same period the AstraZeneca shot was halted due to the blood clotting issue. I have atherosclerosis so I became a hard “NO” on getting any of the experimental “vaccines.”
My family thought it was just another scam to get PDJT. We all love PDJT but was never going to get the shot. To me you really had to read between the Lies.
I hear that a lot of people are going to try and blame Trump for his Warp speed action on this, I say BS. He always said it was an experimental shot. Never understood why someone would stand in line for that experimental shot or for the covid test. I think a lot of people really lost their minds during covid, stopped all critical thinking. Especially with the mask.
For those who say Trump needs to come out against the shots, I say BS. They are (media) waiting for that to happen so they can blame him and spin it to where it’s all his fault so the heat will be focused on him and not on them for pushing the JAB.
The media has previously pushed an agenda
– nasa has too many delays in launching the space shuttle !!!
Then when nasal mgmt caves to media pressure with a teacher on board – and goes ahead and launches the Challenger on a cold Florida morning
( not advised by nasa technicians, engine o rings get brittle in cold, were not tested in that quick, high energy condition)…
then seconds later it turns a huge firework and then some….lost lives and shuttle…
..The media hustled to skirt self blame…
and there was a big delay in future launches – and nasal mgmt changes ( ethics and competence allowed / media pressure not allowed ).
It’s been awhile since the lesson was heard…
However, there are ample new opportunities to practice the lesson.
I didn’t take it mostly because I tend to be contrarian and don’t trust authority. I didn’t like it when Trump announced his ‘warp drive’ agenda to create the jab and I certainly don’t like anybody telling me, or anyone, that they have to take it.
My reasons in no particular order:
1. It’s a cold virus and nothing cures a cold like that;
2. No effective vaccine is produced in 9 months;
3. The US Government experimented on black people many years ago without telling them;
4. When Pelosi said in Feb 2019 – or whenever COVID first came out – that there was no problem when visiting Chinatown, because she always lies;
5. When illegals kept coming in unchecked if they had COVID, no borders closed;
6. The risk group was very small and the likelihood of death was .003%;
7. Birx and Fauci were not credible from the beginning;
8. No one used the ship in New York that Trump arranged to help with supposed high number of cases;
9. Nurses and doctors were not stricken with COVID in large numbers after tending to those who were sick;
10. People were not dropping dead as expected from a runaway virus that was deemed so serious;
11. There were effective medicines available but restricted by state governors for no valid reason at all;
12. It was soon learned that immunity is helped by keeping levels of vitamin C, D, Zinc and Quercetin up;
13. Doctors were given strict protocol instructions including remdesivir without patient/family knowledge and ventilators which in turn was a death sentence.
So overall, lack of trust in government ability to manage my personal choices, verifiable data, and common sense are why I did not get the shot. Several family members have and that seems to mean the clock is ticking for them. I will be there for them if/when the time comes.
I took the first jab under EXTREME PRESSURE from immediate family due to an upcoming birthday dinner for the family patriarch.
I heard that other family members were talking about “kicking my ass” for endangering grandpa.
Getting the clot shot mollified the mob. The topic never came up again and that was the first and last jab I had.
Since then every single member of my close family and even friends have gotten the Wuhan Flu EXCEPT ME!!
I can’t talk to anyone about why I’m not jabbed up without a huge fight ensuing so I don’t.
Thankfully, I was not yet old enough to be in the first wave of jabs. I was looking at the CDC data and seeing a .oo6 mortality rate and that being with multiple health issues…any one of which could cause you to drop dead. Reading the studies that the control group was eliminated by giving them all the jab after 3 months struck me as very unscientific. I was reading here, TGP, and listening to conservative talk. Those factors cemented my resolve to be part of the control group
I’m over 70 and I was skeptical from the start of the propaganda campaign and would never have gotten the shot were it not for my wife who insisted I get it so I got the Pfizer double jab. That calmed her down a bit, but the poor woman was so distressed by the fear mongering and her hand washing so vigorous that one day in April 2020 I looked at her hands and they looked like a Brillo pad had been used on them and I thought, that’s it, no more. This is going to end for us. By this time (May 2020) I had figured out the very low probability of encountering someone who had an active infection and we both decided to end the farce in our family. As Sundance said, ‘live your best life’ and that is what we did. We started going out to get some exercise every day despite the prohibitions, visited the restaurants that were open, (we’re in FL) stopped masking and generally decided to no longer participate in the hoax. No more jabs or ‘boosters’, no more government BS at that point. But we still had to put up with those around us (we’re in a condo) who were terribly afraid. It was an ugly time as we fought to keep out freedoms.
Originally I chose not to jab because of the non-liability from HHS clause. I also have a compromised immune system and did not want to ‘test’ anything on a system that was already compromised. Since my decision I have lost quite a few friends, my son will not speak to me because of questioning this mandate and other conservative principles, my daughter preferred that I get vaccinated to be allowed to visit my first grandchild. Since I did not, I am required to prove my worthiness (negative test) prior to each visit. I have kept my job, but the pushing and the stress levels created during this time made me lose all respect for my employer. Biding my time to retirement. I am grateful for the opportunity to air these issues and am saddened by the immense responses. This should never have been brought to this level of chaos.
There was enough information available in 2020 to question the efficacy of the gene-altering shot. I question the dedication of the medical community to “do no harm” when that group pushed the shot. This was never given approval of the FDA, but to this day remains “emergency” status or whatever term with which the bureaucrats/politicians want to obfuscate. The world became the guinea pig for the power/money hungry Gates et al.
Why would I trust those who have lied to me repeatedly over other issues for years? I waited. I educated myself and my family members. We are all Pure Bloods and will remain so. My Father was in a retirement home. They were locked down. I was the only family member allowed in because I organized his daily medications. The ‘shots’ were offered to the residents. I begged him to not take them, but he did. His second dose was on Feb. 17, 2021. Within a day both his hands became numb and almost useless. They remained that way. I watched as his health went off a cliff, from fully ambulatory and taking daily walks to struggling just be walk with a walker. On May 2,2021, just two months later, staff found him dead in his apartment. Now, what is one to think?
I did not take any shots, for the very simple reason that the very same people who described it as something Trump cooked up in the basement of the White House with a high school chemistry set are the very same people who used the power of government to force it upon me.
My husband and I took the J&J jab in March 2021, right after vaccines were allowed for 65-75. We had a family member in poor health and did it to protect him. We chose the J&J on our long time family doctor’s advice when we expressed concern about mRNA. He is one of the good guys. Didn’t push vaccines or boosters.
Absolutely appalled at the government led descimination against those who chose not to be vaccinated, ‘fully-vaccinated’ or boosted. I will never wonder how the holocaust happened again.
If covid won’t even kill the decrepit old sods walking the halls of congress, then I got nothing to worry about.
CONgress exempted themselves from the clot-shots.
Now we know why.
@VigilantFox
What else could we possibly need to know?
When the Wuhan Con first hit I took it seriously and in my 2weeks to flatten the curve I used my time to read. I found many great essays from credible people “experts” saying essentially what the f….? This was one of may favorites:
Editor’s Note: The opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the American Journal of Epidemiology.
In May 2020, the Journal published an opinion piece by a member of the Editorial Board, Dr. Harvey Risch, in which he reviewed several papers—published and unpublished—and argued that using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) + azithromycin (AZ) early to treat symptomatic coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases in high-risk patients early should be broadly applied. The article received little attention until the author wrote a similar piece for Newsweek, which was followed by interviews on Fox News, implying that by publishing his opinion, the American Journal of Epidemiology Editorial Board agreed with his assessment. This is categorically not the case.”
There are many others. But I came very quickly to the realization the Wuhan Con was put in place to remove the Orange Irritant…President Trump.
Though it’s been scrubbed from the internet, but in October 2019 the criminal Bill Gates sponsored a rat gathering discussing a coming pandemic ( be one of his Patents) Covid 19 all the crooks were there Fauci, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, WEF, WHO etc.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/exercises/event201/about
As for me and mine I knew it was a con and we are all un-jabbed, but I also know people I love that have had big problems with Bill’s poison jab.
There are many, many demons who need their asses in slings.
The same apparatus that sickened the US w the food pyramid, booed God, escalated the cost of basic healthcare to something most people can’t afford, indebted the country, sent our best off to fight in the sand while refusing to secure our border, watched w glee as our cities burned, sent children home from school to melt away from life in front of screens, called half of the US racist and unredeemable for 5 years, denied those same people their chosen representative in government, closed churches, canceled freedom of speech, locked away Grandma and Grandpa to die alone w masked strangers, closed restaurants and other small businesses w the heavy hand of the law, pitted family member against family member, and waged continuous fear ops over an illness that was quickly confirmed to affect specific populations already prone to illness
Wanted me and my family to take an experimental, admittedly rushed vaccine that had not undergone long term testing.
No thanks. GTFO.
Amen
I think you pretty well covered the situation…….
Next question – how many complied with gov’t rules/mandates – I did Not! 78 at the time of all this initial crap, retired so Job wasn’t a problem – However, I went into stores sans mask -people looked, but said nothing. Only once in Tractor Supply (new manager from NY) *insisted* I wear a mask (needed grain for my horses, I complied).
Was driving on *empty* roads from day one (no semis at all) – never stopped! Did not see my doctor for over one year (masks required) til they stopped renewing BP/Choles meds. Our families celebrated all holidays etc. together.
No bragging here! – just saying not many *rebelled* my family included (none jabbed though) – maybe if the majority of people*pushed back* lockdowns etc. may not have lasted as long as they did or even occurred.
I’m reading a second wave of *masking* is happening – let’s see how many comply!
I refused to wear a mask at my retail business, because it’s my business, and I felt as though I would end up giving myself covid by touching the mask after touching things others touched. I took the stance that anyone is free to come in wearing a mask or not–if you feel masks work, go for it. If you feel you’re going to get COVID from me because I am not wearing one, you definitely should not set foot in my store. One idiot with a British accent came in wearing a ratty bandana and had the audacity to say to me, “You’re not wearing a mask, I don’t like it.” I said, “I have reasons for not wearing one, and you’re not supposed to castigate anyone for not wearing a mask.” He mumbled that’s not what he meant, left, and never came in again. What I should have said was, this is America and we’re citizens, not subjects. 🙂
I was diagnosed with cancer in 2006 and I have survived two surgeries and a round of chemo and radiation. That is all I wanted from the medical community for the rest of my life. Dealing with their stupidity in the cancer treatments made me realize they were really about the money and nothing more. After 5 years I quit going to doctors because all they care about is numbers they know nothing about from measurements they don’t make, some lab does.
So I worked at approaches to improve my immune response so the cancer wouldn’t come back. I took some supplements to help my T cells and that is why I wouldn’t want the jabs. They would interfere with my T cell repsonse and I didn’t see why I should upset my immune system for basically a bad cold.
I haven’t gotten the shots nor did I get covid and I have been repeatedly exposed. My wife got it and slept in bed with me while she had it. I don’t worry about it, I think I already had natural immunity or my immune system did a good job fending whatever exposures I encountered. So I am fine, no problems for me but my wife is fighting high blood pressure since the shots. She was before also but it’s worse now.
Blood pressure issues post shots too. Specifically told the doctor that too. Didn’t need treatment before those shots, a few months later was running up near stroke level. Doc put me on meds and has not bothered me about boosters. Bothers me too that they say the young shouldn’t get them, but everyone 65 and older should still. Nope. They’re not safe for anyone.
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Blood pressure. My healthy athletic son, infantry officer in his early 30s, had to get the shots and also make sure his troops did too, under threat of court martial. He now has scary high blood pressure, being monitored by the army. High blood pressure is nowhere in the entire extended family even among the oldsters. I’m so angry.
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I didn’t take the shot because I’m healthy with an almost 100% chance of recovery. My husband and I had “covid” in February 2020, lasted about two weeks. He ended up getting two Moderna vaccines because he works for DOD and has underlying health issues, but no more boosters, thank God!
I, too, had a bought with a velcro-like bronchitis back in February 2020.
I spent a career (21 yrs) in the US Air Force where annual flu shots were mandatory. The only bout of the flu I’ve ever had was while I was in the Air Force. I’m 71 yrs old and rarely take the flu shot since leaving the A.F.
In late February 2020 I was working for a contractor to the US Department of Labor. When Covid was announced they sent us home and after a few weeks we were told to get the jab and come back to work. I told them I’m resigning and never returned.
Skepticism ruled from the get go and I’ve never received the Covid vax. Early on I found the FLCCC website. I ordered and have available a large supply of Ivermectin. I took a five-day regimen once. Based on the recommendations of the good docs at the FLCCC I’ve consistently taken daily doses of vitamin C, D, zinc, and quercetin, and melatonin occasionally . Thank the Lord, I’ve never contracted Covid.
My wife, her two kids, my two kids and their families, have all received multiple jabs. I pray regularly that none of them suffer from myocarditis or pericarditis…
Barefootin … “I’ve consistently taken daily doses of vitamin C, D, zinc, and quercetin”
Same here for me. I have not had COVID. Dr. Zelenko pointed me to the same over-the-counter meds that you mentioned and take them on a daily basis.
My fear is long term effects for family and friends who took the jabs.
My husband and I, along with our cousin’s family all became terribly sick with bad coughs and flu-like symptoms during the weekend after gathering together at Thanksgiving 2019.
And I recall now that we didn’t feel well enough to even open up our presents until the New Year, so we were sick at home for at least 5 whole weeks!
Then when the government “beast” began pushing the whole “COVID pandemic must be shut down at all costs” illusion , we realized right away that was probably what we had been sick with previously. And we considered ourselves survivors !
And I didn’t tell my doctor about all of that , but whenever the nurse or she would ask me if I had taken the shott , I would answer “No” and then just add, “…and I don’t want to talk about it now. “ .
And so then 2 years goes by without a hitch with not even a sore throat or sniffle.
Then, last August, I had to cancel one of my regular scheduled doctor’s appointments, because I felt too sick with sinuses to come in.
But my doctor said it sounded like COVID symptoms too, and insisted that I come to see her immediately.
So … because I had COVID “like” symptoms, they took no risks, and I had to go in through the side door ofthe building (masked of course) leading into a specially isolated sterilized area, with staff dressed head to toe in full surgery gear ! But after all of that ,it ended up being a sinus infection and I was sent home with some antibiotics, and I have been completely well ever since.
I only mentioned it, because I believe that it demonstrates how I feel about my case , in my case… ….I got sick with “something bad” , and then got better from “something bad” before “the pandemic panic” first began .
And in my case….I believe that my natural immune system figured out how to fight and defeat it right at the end of 2019 , and therefore, I have been naturally immunized ever since that time .
The drama is so they will get reimbursed handsomely by the government. Good for you.
I believe that due to information silos even the medical community may not be aware of what really drives patient care. They, like many of their patients, just believe what they are being told.
It is the higher ups, the hospital administrators, who set policies based upon reimbursements and business models instead of practicing good medicine.
Fall of 2019, I and others in my family were sick with what I now think was the Wuhan Red Death. In 2020 I started questioning the “Fall of 2019.” Body, heal thyself! 😊
Same with me. Thanks for affirming my suspicions. We are not the only ones. Many, many people came down with it that fall. But we survived.
Same here.
And here!
The same thing happened to my husband and I, we both caught the ‘worst flu ever’ early January 2021.
Lo and behold, we have not even had a summer cold or flu since. Used to be several rounds every year. Immune system went into hyperdrive I guess. Glad to find out it was the same with others.
Neither of us ever have taken the annual flu shots. I am just a contrarian to my DNA and tend to have bad reactions to what others can take with no problem like OTC meds. I wasn’t about to take the shots because of that factor.
I had the worst “flu” of my life in December 2019. Now pretty sure it was covid. My daughter and son-in-law had it worse than me in late November 2019. We all survived.
I come from a long line of government skeptics. My grandfather, 1880’s ventage, lived through the depression. He would take his farm goods and trade them with neighbors for government cheese. He never wanted to be on ‘their radar’. My dad taught us to trust in God, not government. I was, and am, a big Reagan fan. When the government pushes anything, I back up and when they team up with depopulationists, I run. As I told friends and family, when a depopulationist offers you an injection, just say NO. I have nieces, both doctors, that were not surprised when I turned down their assistance to hook me up with the jab. All of them and their children took the vax. Since then, my husband’s sister has been hospitalized for months on end and her once healthy husband has stage 4 cancer. My sister and her husband took the first two shots … sister has since suffered a stroke and seizures. Her husband has developed a ‘circulation issue’ and may lose a leg. So far, the great nieces and nephews are fine … but it’s early on in what I fear will be a great death wave of young people. My 97 y/o mom lives with me and my husband. I felt like our PCP was a drug pusher when the vax came out. We have a new PCP now. No one in my house got the vax and none of got covid either. Mom always says she ready to go when God calls her, not when government calls. We made the best decision for us as a family, and I will never regret it. My skepticism has proved warranted.