I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request.
I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.

I’m a registered nurse. 30+ years.
I knew Covid was a bunch of hooey when Santa Clara county didn’t “pop” during the first few months. I figured the “gateway to the west” from China would be devastated. It wasn’t. So it all fell flat and once my suspicions were raised I sought alternative sources of info to find the truth. I never believed the Covid myth. I worked Covid icu in the delta surge 8/2021 and watched them murder people with the protocol. I have the receipts. But it wasn’t Covid that killed them.
Regarding the jab, from the very beginning of operation warp speed it felt rushed. By the time it came out for health care workers in January 21, I backed away quietly. It just didn’t make sense. None of it. I was out of work during the big mandated months because I refused. But I prayed and God held me together. I’m working now under a religious exemption.
GOOD observation (to wit: “I knew Covid was a bunch of hooey when Santa Clara county didn’t “pop” during the first few months. I figured the “gateway to the west” from China would be devastated.”)
For years I have been reading from many sources about the pharmaceutical industry and in particular vaccines and “adverse” effects. I have been aware of VAERS and the vaccine court. Seeing first hand the rise of autism correlated with the rise of vaccination and how any real attempt to get to the bottom of what causes it be put down and mocked as a conspiracy theory, made me even more skeptical of the industry. The total lack of curiosity among most physicians and nurses along with seeing pretty young pharmaceutical representatives in my doctors office almost every time I was there was another red flag. By this time my children where grown and had their “shots”,and my grandchildren were coming along. I shared my concern as well as links to various articles and websites and I am happy to say that most of my grandchildren are vax free,healthy and vibrant. Then comes along the bio weapon covid 19. Basic critical thinking told all of us not to take it. The whole totalitarian approach was an instant warning. I do admit to being somewhat frightened at first but the more I paid attention the more scripted it all seemed.
I’m happy to report that my entire family, even my parents In their 90’s refused the “jabs” and never stopped gathering. Unfortunately we lost my father in 2021 from complications to hernia surgery and last year my mother 91,contracted covid and with rigorous treatment using the FLCC protocol along with vitamin c infusions recovered and is doing well today.
Have noticed with a husband that got a life threatening infection and six years of medical treatments, that there were fabulous doctors , competent doctors and criminal doctors. Saw medicines touted as miracles recalled on a 7 year rotation that showed a pharmaceutical culture that was not ethical. And have learned watching medicinal system often treat the symptoms not the issue, and old remedies work without the money and side effects of “wonder cures” of today. When discussion is suppressed and well respected doctors are brutally castigated for opinions not in lock step with the Borg I become suspicious. And finally ,I listen to the Holy Spirit that leads me in truth and this was not truth! As we are finding out. I asked myself why the grocery clerks weren’t falling like flies? In the world around me they were the canary in the coal mine.
My “ choice for them in certain things” neighbors looked at me as if I was bringing back blood lettting and made sure to keep masked and distanced with me. Ironically, they all got Covid and I think I didn’t .So now they are still in denial when I mention “vaccine” failures but I pray they are all healthy.
My last “flu” shot was in 1978! I am not smart and I am not dumb. I reasoned that we don’t have a cure for the virus called the common cold or the flu then why would I believe they could develop a cure for this new virus called covid. From the beginning I did not lock down. I went were I wanted – when I wanted. I did not and do not wear a mask unless the building I am entering has something I want and can not get anywhere else, this includes hospitals, Walmart, government building. And then, I take the stupid piece of toilet paper off, making folks chase me down the hall, demanding I put it back on. I am not afraid of covid or mini tyrant.
The pharmaceutical companies have been trying to come up with a vaccine for respiratory infections since the ’60s and had failed miserably. That was a huge warning sign that this vaccine was totally bogus. And then you add in the fact that fauci was trying to get these MRNA vaccines approved for 5 years and failed with the FDA. The truth was out there people didn’t want to see it.
I heard of all of the adverse reactions, here and other places. My son took it, and almost immediately started having heart problems. I worked retail during the pandemic and since, and have never gotten sick (but I am careful). For a while, we had to wear the silly masks. Everything I read put it down as a severe flu, nothing more. Dangerous only if you are health compromised.
PS: I personally know 15 people who did not take the clot shot.
I know a PureBlood group of 45….Patriots.
Now you know 16…me. 😊
There are several reasons :
It did not make since to me. If it were a true pandemic, people would have been lying in the street and most of the population would have been dead or dying within a short period of time. I also looked at our cities homeless. They were proliferating.
They were pushing too hard.
Masks didn’t make since.
It was experimental.
I hate shots of any kind.
I thank God everyday that he gave me a functioning brain.
One friend had to take it to see her mother in the nursing home. Another family took it because they were scared. Their daughter has taken boosters. I pray that nothing will happen to any of my friends who have taken it. I have not lost friendships but the strain of it all has made me lose my mind. I can see, why can’t they? I do not have TV. I stream everything. That was a plus for me!
Not to pick on you, just to help, you misspelled sense (since).
Good point on people not lying in the street dead everywhere. I use that same point with people, didn’t matter though.
With all the nonsensical measures they imposed in 2020 and the impossibly short development and trial times for the vaccines, it was impossible for me and my wife to believe the vaccine was going to be safe and effective. This gut feeling was bolstered by reviewing the Pfizer trial data and finding out that the absolute risk reduction achieved by taking the vaccine was less than 1% (credit to Richard Fleming, who pointed this out on a podcast) — which is statistically insignificant (i.e. meaningless).
We both got Covid in Feb. 2022 but took the FLCCC protocol (with Ivermectin) and recovered nicely.
My wife had a very hard time with her kids over not taking the vaccine. Mine were slightly annoying but hers were downright nasty to her, yelling at her and making her go to group therapy to show her the error of her ways. Didn’t work. Now they are “back to normal” (well, except for the daughter who still wears a mask in certain places in some kind of weird ceremonial ritual).
I did not get the jab. Never will. I’ve never gotten any of the “recommended shots” – flu, pneumonia, shingles. (Too bad there’s not a shot to prevent liberalism.). I would be considered to be in a high risk category at age 67. But I believe the greater risk is not to think for yourself and do your own research. My three brothers, their spouses, my daughter, my granddaughter, my nieces and nephews all got the jab, and we’re sending celebratory emails around, excited to have their jabs. I must have been adopted. But I read what they don’t. I followed Drs. Malone, Risch, Atlas, McCullough, and read what they were saying about the jab and the virus. I was also reading the government’s propaganda. It was very obvious who was being honest and accurate. I caught the virus in November of 2020, and so I also knew I had natural immunity. Is that not what a vaccine is supposed to do, replicate having had the disease? And based on reading most of the comments, we’ve been right all along.
I will say Malone early on thought it good that the elderly and immuno-compromised SHOULD take the shot…I listened to him on Bannon’s show say this, all the while I was screaming at the screen, saying, “So we only want to kill those people?!” And Peter Navarro was right there with him agreeing!
The likes of Gates et al actually do want to kill, Jeanine. He even announced the purpose of developing “new vaccines”. He is a monster and a depopulationist…and a murderer through previous efforts.
As people after a certain age (those who collect social security) are considered surplus to requirements, as well as drains on the public purse which has been plundered into bankruptcy by this and all previous governments, they were always going to be the first targets.
The ultimate targets were those who are still reproducing, and finally our youngest so that they’d never reproduce. Voila!! Fewer to no more people.
And like you, when I heard Dr Malone say what you heard, I simply couldn’t believe it. I can only surmise he was on his own road to Damascus journey and hadn’t quite reached the destination. I’m hopeful he has now arrived.
Great sarcasm on the liberalism comment !
Ironically you mentioned shingles. A friend had shared with me information that a father and son who had gotten a shot both came down with shingles. I was more so surprised to find out that the man’s son lost his eye from shingles, which blew my mind. Suppression of the immune system.
Our household didn’t take the vaccine as a result of past research into HIV and fibromyalgia, both manifestations of the NIH and shenanigans at Ft Dietrich (sp). However 2 step children, their spouses and families, and daughters beau and his family are all “vaccinated”. We literally only know five persons that have not taken the jab. Expect neighbors to start falling out of the trees soon. Quite frankly, we are shocked at the number of sheeple that will believe anything. Praying for them every day. Also, the families of unvaccinated friends are also 100% “vaccinated”. We are old Florida now living in SC.
My wife and I have never had flu shots. We’ve always relied on supplements instead, accepting that eventually everyone gets sick once in a while, part of the natural order for the immune system.
We were immediately dubious about a vaccine that was allegedly developed in a matter of months, with no long-term trials. We did our research.
Within two weeks of the so-called outbreak up here in Walz’s Minnefornia, it was clear that the elderly and health-compromised were at risk (thanks to Dr. Scott Jensen, whom we followed closely).
Ultimately, my wife and I don’t trust the government or pharma to have our best interests in mind. Couple that with being told what we must do by the MSM, and our resolve to resist was strengthened daily.
Thankfully, our two 20-something sons decided to remain un-jabbed as well.
We are so thankful for our decision, and we continue to pray for our family members who are all-in on the boosting regimen.
I had a greater % risk of jab complications than % risk of dying from C-19. It’s that simple.
I was fired by a pharma company for not getting it, forced me to retire early. It’s been the greatest 15 months of my life. I know more people who died from jab than C-19. I pray daily for the 70% of my friends & family who got it.
I did not not see a health threat that warranted vaccination. The statistical probability of succumbing to Covid 19 was negligible even for my wife and I who are both in our 70’s. Additionally, there was no evidence of a serious pandemic causing mass death here in Oregon. Only after people were vaccinated and or boosted did death rates begin to elevate. By that time it was apparent that Covid was just a cold and the real threat was from vaccination and booster shots. My wife and I eventually came down with what we believe was a Covid strain but after a week of Ivermectin and Z-Stack we recovered albeit with a cough that lingered an additional week or so. Currently we take Zinc with vitamin D and have never felt better.
My husband and I are homesteaders. We spend time outside every day, even in the worst of weather, and we stay very active. We decided on this lifestyle in our early 60’s, we are now in our late 60’s. Our philosophy is “fresh air, sunshine and plenty of grace will slam the door in the doctor’s face” – Farmer’s almanac
When the virus was first reported, we upped our intake of immune supporting supplements, we made it a priority to wash our hands when we came home from church, etc and to keep our hands off of our face. We didn’t wear masks and, since we are highly skeptical of most things “government” determined that we wouldn’t participate in the COVID panic by subjecting ourselves to experimental shots.
We never discussed it with anyone and never let them know one way or the other if we got the shot or not.
For the last year or so, I get up before dawn, cut up some flour tortillas, then well before daybreak bicycle over to a ball field to lay out the cut up tortillas for a flock of crows that noisily arrive before dawn … it forces me now (67) to get on that bike and get the blood pumping healthily!
Sundance,
Perhaps you should not have asked this lengthy response… I’ll keep it as brief as I can.
From the onset, the exposure of the origin of this GOF as a collusion of our own corrupt .gov/bureaucracies/WHO and other Western governments with funding it with more tax payer debt fiat money and the lengths taken to keep the collusion hidden by these same groups.
The intentional overcounting Covid morbidity and mortality; excess PCR cyclic rates (excess false positives), the disappearance of H1N1, WHO conflating morbidity and mortality rates.
The rejection of long standing Preventive Medicine protocols for epidemic/pandemic measures, shutting down economies, intentional mixing of infected, contrary to all medical advice, into high risk nursing homes, intentionally killing the elderly by Governor decree/emergency orders.
The intentional prohibition of repurposing older safer drug treatments, the assault on it’s use, activating junk science (similar to anti-gun research funded by CDC), the retraction of that junk science (Lancet), the assault on well read, prominent educators, professors, physicians, practitioners or honestly anyone who disagreed with the draconian counter measures being falsely applied or supported early treatment.
The FOIA request, denials, the under reporting of vaccine injuries and illegal manipulation of health data (military data), the excess mortality being observed and hidden and smothered. The higher all cause mortality in the injected than placebo groups then destroying those groups, unblinding, in just 6 mos, preventing accurate assessment of risk vs. benefits.
Pfizer get FDA approval yet not releasing it to the public and much later quietly shelving it never to be released. Tris-sucrose is what they came to be working on for “market”. The EUA is still in effect despite the fact the Pandemic by all medical definition ended when Omicron (lacks ACE2-is a URI) swept the globe by Jan 2022 providing me Corona virus antibodies that are long lasting.
Rochelle of the CDC last year early spring finally relented and published the health benefit data we paid for but left out the 49 and below. Why? “doesn’t want to contribute to vaccine hesitancy”. Why? Because there is no benefit leaving ONLY RISK. Then there is the blatant lies of our CDC/FDA about VAERS safety monitoring, claimed weekly, that CDC just publicly admitted they took 15 freaking months to start and our FDA still refuses to provide their safety signal data that was just recently provided by our corrupt CDC.
The public’s trust in our federal and many state health agencies designed to protect the citizenry has been violated. Once trust has been lost it’s nearly impossible to gain back.
The violation of the initial oath of medical professionals, our Hippocratic Oath to do no more harm…
Never, this summer 40 years, in all my professional medical experience have I seen such a thing. I hope I never will again.
RamRoddoc-out
I agree, it was aweful watching medical doctors abandoned independent patient protocol and spew forth government approved propaganda. I will never trust a medical doctor again.
Amen! Never have I seen the like as well. So many violated their oath for the security of a paycheck.
I am a 68 yo surgeon, still active. My wife is a retired nurse. We were both trained in a system heavily influenced by Big Pharma. It took years of self education for us to become 100% against all vaccines. We have 3 children who received the customary childhood vaccines. We are convinced that 2 of our sons have evidence of mild vaccine damage.
We had the opportunity a number of years ago to host Dr. Andrew Wakefield as a speaker in our community. We had a small dinner party for him the night before—what a fabulous experience! He reinforced what we already knew about vaccines. Our decision to not get the jab was a no-brainer.
I haven’t really trusted the healthcare system since the move from independent doctors with access to hospitals to doctors who are employees of hospitals. Then I was asked to take a shot that was developed in record time, deemed safe but I would not be allowed to sue anyone if things did not work out. That’s a bad trade. I refused, saying that I do not participate in drug trials.
My husband and I changed physicians after 20 years because of the push for the jab. After much inquiry among friends, found an independent, patient-centered doctor who would actually prescribe ivermectin and not peck on his laptop while interviewing you!
That “pecking on the laptop” caused me to leave a doc. Most impersonal system ever! They confused the reason for my 2 appts. and totally forgot why I had been there previously. No one can talk, listen, and enter correct info into a device simutaneously!!🤬 And that is even with an assistant! Deal-breaker for me.
One day about 5 years ago, while in a co. break room, I started talking with a frail fellow who was eating for lunch what looked like gruel. During the course of conversation he told me that a year prior to our conversation he had taken an annual flu shot and, as a result, had had such a severe reaction that he had lost his sense of taste and was allergic to almost everything.
Coincidentally, I saw a photo of him from a few years prior to our conversation (and flu shot) and he had been a sturdy, strong looking chap.
That conversation has stayed with me.
Ya know that 115 yr old woman who recently died? One of the keys to longevity, she said, was “staying away from doctors.”
I have had one flu shot since 1969 when I bribed my way out of an Army-mandated one with a “gift” to a corpsman. I had such an unpleasant reaction to the flu shot that I vowed never again. Plus, being widely-read, I knew the “vaccine” was not a vaccine, was not proven, and everything was way too hasty.
I am not anti vaccine. I will not take an experimental one until I can see how it plays out. Turns I was wise. Lol.
You’re a loving family. God bless you.
My gut told me something is fishy. Vaccine was pushed especially for my generation. I kept asking myself….why the rush. My md said u need the shot. I declined but she was disgusted with me. Lived in New York State then…land of control and when they closed churches but allowed liquor stores to be open…what other info do u need. Happy to be living in Tennessee!
You know, as I type this I have angry tears in my eyes. My relationship with my parents is barely intact. Many many of my immediate family have just begun to drop like flies. One after the other. Strokes, heart attacks, cancers etc. Since the onslaught of this I’ve been obsessed with reading and listening and learning all I can about these government and medical whores. Also, about alternative treatments for just about everything that I once would have used a doctor for. Within me, they’ve awakened a holy and determined heart. If I don’t get to participate in the hanging of these murderers, hopefully I can watch-and smile with glee as I piss on their graves. One last point- I barely paid attention to who the governor was even in my own state. But I know every name now. Much love to all. Especially Sundance.
Good move. You never know when nursing homes will ban visitors again. They did it in Florida too.
I attend a reformed non-denominational church. I work at a different not reformed but conservative leaning non denominational church. The vast majority of my close friends, acquaintances and colleagues held strongly to Christian conscience in masking and certainly in re: to the vaccine. So minimal outside pressure day to day. My husband faced more due to his 75+ age. But still not a lot. Personally neither one of us trusted the govt even though we loved Trump. We trusted God with our immune system and with our life and death. My husband died with covid(I think the hospital protocol, or lack of actual treatment killed him more than covid)and is with the Lord but I totally believe he would still not take the vaccine if he had to live it over again.
Sorry for the loss of your husband to the corrupt health care system. I hope they didn’t prevent you from seeing him
My wife and I got the shot because we had a new granddaughter. When this all started I looked at the percent of people dying out of 8 billion on the planet, that number is quite small. I will not get a booster or flu shot.
Why did I refuse the vaxxes? Simple answer: Over two years ago, the man who helped design and create mRNA medicines – Dr. Robert Malone – expressed his worries about the mobility of the injections within human recipients, and with the possibility of the creation of vaccine resistance. That, plus my unwillingness to be a lab rat for a billion-dollar globalist industry.
I am 75 years old, near-ideal BMI, physically active. I had the “mild” variant of covid a few months back and, aside from lingering diminished sense of taste, have had ZERO longterm complications. God designed us to survive provided we follow a sensible and rational lifestyle – which includes taking quercetin / zinc / vitamin D daily. And hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic when exposed, and as a cure when suffering.
My first post ever on CTH. Daily reader.
My wife (retired nurse) and I did not take “vaccines” because they were not actually vaccines and were experimental. We also did not trust the data being pushed on us by the media and the government. Unfortunately, our sons, in their early 30s, all took at least one shot, one being forced by the USAF and one being forced by the government of Virginia, and one being forced by the Federal government as a support contractor to DoE. My wife and I thank God every day that we did not take the jab.
Anecdotals is the name of this video. Good to share if needed and heartbreaking.
No shot. I’m fit under 60 and don’t smoke cigarettes (premium cigars another story) my wife and kids the same. The whole thing seemed off. Got covid last January a total nothingburger. My parents are elderly and my Dad was terrified which pissed me off because he was always a critical thinker. Told my wife we would die if we didn’t get vaxxed, I begged him to stop watching the news.
As a govt contractor the pressure to vax was intense. I then wrote a petition at work, and wrote my own 8 page religious exemption (which included what I knew about early treatment and put them on notice in writing). I received the exemption, and watched every single vaxed person around me get covid multiple times.
Never took the shot. One simple reason. I read good news, like here. The false flags were everywhere. I am a healthy vitamin popping, gym attendee. I just don’t drop crap into my body if it’s not a natural source. Also was reading about hydrochlricline, and ivermectin, there refusal to see the obvious, was a gigantic red flag! I am in my late 50’s. I caught Covid in Aug 21, my natural immunity has worked wonders since then. Not enough people take the time to educate themselves, or know where!
The decision not to vax was pretty straightforward for my wife and I. We try to stay away from taking pharmaceutical medications as a general rule, although we do use them on infrequent occasion when determined to be the right path. We are mid-sixties, active and healthy, and not overweight. We eat well, take vitamin and mineral supplements, etc. The virus and vax were both so new, that we were (it turns out) appropriately cautious about any new and rapidly developed drug. We believe we’ve had “the Covid” a couple of times over the past three years, but symptoms have been mild. Some conversations with family and friends are sensitive. There is a lot of emotion rolled into discussing this topic – I believe because so many people have either become zealous about the subject, or have worrisome doubts and regrets about their decisions. It is shameful, the public pressure and censorship that was placed on this issue.
Well I did not take the shot, have never to my knowledge had Covid (though I acknowledge that if the symptoms fit those of a cold then perhaps so), and have never been tested for Covid. There are so many reasons. And after 3 years it’s a little difficult to recall the order of my reasoning.
But…I have never had a flu shot and have not had the flu in nearly 30 years though again I have had colds and strep. So when it comes to preventing viral disease with a “shot” I am inherently skeptical based on my own life experience.
Then early on I read the stories of H1N1 and it struck me how different the governmental response was and if I recall correctly that is what first started my skepticism. I remember hearing about the Covid symptoms and thinking that it sounded like the flu to me.
It’s hard now to remember exactly the next sequence of events but…the whole “essential” v. “non essential” business thing didn’t seem logical to me.
Trying to control contagion when the virus was not in a contained population did not make sense to me. In fact it clearly was a lie that it could be done and I knew that at the time.
From the absolute beginning I was aware that both Pfizer and Moderna were in fact gene therapy and not a vaccine in the sense of others I have had. When I researched mRNA I discovered what anyone else did or could about the fact that the technology had never been subject to such a wide spread clinical trial and that there were known side effects that were not being touted.
Then of course you have the corrupt marriage of these politicians and corporate America, so of course initially the “follow the money” concept was in my mind. I became aware that Pfizer was making 26 million dollars per day….that’s a lot of money to buy a lot of lies to be told by politicians.
Then of course they changed the definition of “vaccine”. Why was that? Well there are only a few reasons and none of them spoke to me as ethical, truthful or representative of the efficacy of this shot to control contagion and transmission.
And then of course early on, I want to say over 2 years ago I became aware that this shot did not control contagion or transmission. In fact amazingly one of the first people I knew who got the shot told me that he was told at the time that the shot did not prevent contagion or transmission. And then a few months later but still approximately 2 years ago the General Assembly in Ohio was debating “mandates” and I recall conversations with my representative as to how in the world there could be mandates when we know the shot does not prevent contagion or transmission. To me that should be a game changer yet still the politicians were pushing mandates and even today they are. In my mind money can be the only motivator for that. How evil.
Of course it only took me about 15 minutes to determine that these masks have no efficacy to prevent the transmission of a microscopic virus. Yet again they were “mandating them”. Why. the propaganda nature of the whole exercise coupled with the irrational fear of the masses could not be ignored by me. It kind of goes on and on.
In the last 2 years I have known 3 people personally who have died “suddenly” who were in there 30’s and 40’s and otherwise quite healthy. I don’t know anyone personally who died of Covid though I do know of a person who died from Emphysema whose death was listed as Covid caused. I’m not saying people did not die of Covid. I am saying don’t tell me it’s a pandemic and expect me to believe you when I am not experiencing a pandemic. And at a wedding I spoke with a young man in the military reserves who suffered Myocarditis who told me he knew of 80 people who had either died or suffered debilitating side effects. A friend’s nephew also developed Myocarditis.
I am not a stupid person and so I cannot be told obvious illogical untruths which belie my life experience without doing my own research and critical thinking for myself. I have an advanced degree but I would say that many people I know who did not critically think themselves have the same degree that I have so let’s let go of credentialing as significant. Instead my take away is how easily most people are scared into ignoring their own observations and experience. I am so scared for people I care deeply about who have gone down this road and I hardly ever discuss all of this because I don’t want to scare the people who have taken this shot. I believe there is growing awareness however and it makes me despair for these people. I remain convinced that this historically will be revealed to be one of the biggest crimes against humanity only eclipsed or rivaled by the asinine concept of man caused global warning.
“their 30’s and 40’s” not “there” ! I do know the difference! Funny how you can read something and not see it until you take a break and re-read! It always amazes me.
Their (There – ha!) used to be an edit button, but it’s not showing up with the browser I’m using now.
A few things convinced me:
It really just became a math problem for me. 99.7% survival rate without the jab in my age/health group. I’ve had the flu shot a couple times over my 59 years, but not in the last 15 years, so not hesitant to get a shot when I think it makes sense.
Also, the fact that the shot was pushed through without adequate time for clinical trials was another factor. Not to mention the propaganda and obvious lies that caused me to question virtually anything the medical field was saying.
Finally, reading about prior attempts to eradicate coronavirus through shots and the resulting ADE that killed the animals in the trial served to firm up my resolve and let things play out.
When I finally came down with C19 in May 2022, I treated it with HCQ and Ivermectin and the vitamin cocktail many of know all about with the support of my naturopathic doctor and had nothing but a cough and the best sleep of my life.
I successfully encouraged most of my family not to get jabbed. Just pointed them to the same info I had and discussed the logic of letting your 2 million year old immune system do what it was supposed to do. Parents wanted to get the shot and they were 80/90 and I encouraged them to do what they wanted to do, especially since the fear was beginning to impact their lifestyle. My daughter at UPENN Med School was essentially forced to take it to graduate. She avoided it for many months but then called me crying that she had to get the shot. I will never forgive them for doing that….and they better pray she stays healthy.
My former boss and good friend has his father, a fab 104 years young, living in his home. Absolutely no masks and of course, no jabs. His dad, a pilot, flew B25’s in the war and is a delight to listen to his stories. God bless you and your mom.
I ended up taking the shot with great reluctance. My wife has lupus and a chronic lung condition and her team of physicians which she sees regularly and trusts with her life all recommended the vaccine early on.
These physicians are Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and Johns Hopkins trained and have helped her survive strokes and heart attacks over the past few years and they all took the shots personally in December 2020 as well as their staffs. We debated action until April 2021 until we finally gave in and got the Pfizer shots.
I personally gave great weight to Donald Trump as I figured that a billionaire insider would not take something for himself or his family unless he had it checked out. So based on her medical condition, medical advice from cardiologist, neurologist, pulmonary expert, endocrinologist and President Trump we gave in.
After nearly two years, we are still alive with apparently no adverse side effects. Most of our extended family members ended up getting the shot as well. After a family reunion this summer many of those in attendance did catch covid anyway later, but all of those with the shot did actually have much milder symptoms than those who did not take the shot. So who knows if the shot helps or not. None have reported any adverse effects and we have no deaths in family.
We are all very firmly against mandates for the shots and always have been. It was good to have the option, but we have decided against any boosters until more information is known. Were we duped? To be determined.
You were duped, it’s not to be determined it has been determined.
Ironic you mentioned lupus, drugs they use for lupus were also a cure for COVID from what I remember. Like ivermectin. Strange how things were tied in like that. Also the fact that John Hopkins University participated in the Bill Gates foundation pandemic simulation in 2019. The pandemic simulation was called event 201 and you should watch it online and see how they were prepared to lie to us on a constant basis and it pointed out misinformation and disinformation through the media, it was all simulation of all to come over the next year.
When the first covid wave hit in the early months of 2020, I started reading that it primarily affected the elderly and those with major comorbidities. I was just turning 50 at the time and in decent health, albeit a bit overweight. So, I wasn’t really worried about what covid would do to me.
Then, as the vaccine was rushed through in late 2020 and early 21, most people wanted it so they could return to their normal lives, well, I’m self employed in Georgia and we had been back to normal since April of 2020. Only restaurants still had some restrictions.
Honestly, taking an experimental vaccine to protect myself against a threat that didn’t really affect me, didn’t make much sense.
However, my college age daughter was pressured by friends that they had to do it. So she had her first two shots. Then, she had the opportunity to go to Europe for practically free, so along came a booster.
I am greatly concerned about her health moving forward. So many stories pop up daily concerning people her age dropping dead for no reason. I can’t imagine something like that happening.
Yes the coercion was insane, they were tricking kids in schools into taking the shots, by giving away free game systems without their parents knowledge. These people are sick and evil !
I am an Occupational Therapist who served patients in their home for 23 years. I treated patients with Covid in their home following the same safety protocol I do every day. I never got ill and then they said, in order for me to continue to treat Medicare patients I must get the jab! I had already been doing that for months and now, suddenly, I need a shot under emergency use authorization. I refused. I did not ever see the ‘science’ that they always spoke about. Remember, my body my choice? I did! I haven’t worked in that field since and I will not until they remove the demand for medical worker to have the ‘vaccine’ to treat Medicare patients. They dropped it for the military, now we need them to drop the jab for healthcare workers!
Given that up until the Covid shots, most vaccines were in clinical trials for at least a decade, it just seemed unwise to get a jab that had just rolled out with such little testing. My children are all adults and have received all of their childhood vaccines except we declined HPV and never get flu shots. But when there was this massive coordinated effort to persuade people to take the shot, I knew something was up. When is the last time they offered you free food, money or other incentives to get a shot? Do you think if they found a cure to cancer they’d be giving it away for free? The whole thing seemed so suspicious to me. The tv ads, the celebrities…it was all too much. Then, when they started to shut down any questions raised, when they started banning and censoring people for just asking questions, they showed their hand. A nurse lives down the street from me and she said no way in hell would she take the shot, and that also gave me pause but I had already decided I was not taking it. It has alienated me from my family, as well as my husband’s family. We are the only family in our family of six siblings all with their own family plus our four parents, who resisted and did not get the shot. But one thing is for sure. I am so glad I didn’t get it and I’m proud of myself for standing up to the immense pressure at work, in my family and in society.
I have had no faith in the corporate media for many years. At the onset of the Covid 19 narrative I began to visit the CDC website on a weekly basis to view the US total mortality chart. There was not an increase and in fact the death rate was lower than the average of the previous five years. At some point in viewing internet news articles I saw what was presented as a photo of the interior of a refrigerated trailer being used as a temporary morgue. The trailer was empty.
What convinced me that we were being fed falsehoods was the eventual disappearance of the US mortality table from the CDC website. At that point I knew the TRUTH was not being told.
I did not take the shot, nor my husband. I looked at the numbers, you know, the ones early on that said 99.99xx survivability. Your odds are not that good driving a couple miles in your car. It made no sense to get an untested “vaccine.” When my husband was faced with the possibility of it being mandated at his work (it wasn’t) we were ready, as a cohesive unit, to walk away.
It took a toll on my rather large family…some took the shot, some did not. My mother and I did not speak for a year because she thought, and voiced to me directly, that Biden had every right to mandate the shot 😳.
Fear is a powerful thing if you’re not critically thinking.
I saw firsthand, as I have voiced on a previous thread, the just about no covid patients in our local hospitals, and where did the flu go? I cared not one bit that President Trump supported the clot shot..Trump is wrong on this issue…but he didn’t support a mandate.
I, and my husband, have had a couple bouts with the Covid flu and think I’m good immunity-wise.
One of my siblings, who took the initial fear-shot, and boosters, developed cancer, that is nowhere found in our family history whatsoever. Another sibling has an adverse reaction at the injection site. Other family members took the shot because it was mandated at their work or they wanted their “freedom” to travel.
I am headstrong in my opinions, especially if I’ve done the research, and will NOT waiver.
I pray daily that my family members do not succumb to the effects of this poison.
It was easy not to trust the shot. First, the clinical trials only were a few months instead of the usual years long time frame to allow for developing adverse reactions. Second, the same people who told everyone that Donald Trump was a Russian agent were the same people telling everyone that they HAD to take shot or we were all going to die. Very simple.
I’ve watched BIG PHARMA commercials for years, always the same, 8 seconds of BENEFITS followed by a 52 second DISCLAIMER on all of the side effects. My common sense said NO way can they do effective trials, and then there is FAUCI telling the world in January of 2017 that Trump would experience a PANDEMIC during his term…..No thanks!!!
I’m a two time refuser.
I was in the Army when the first flu vaccine came out, and it was a true vaccine, I saw the number of illnesses due to the shot and said no, the medic put it down the drain.
And as I was in the army I can say I’m not an anti vaxxer, just observant. (the mandate then was rescinded)
This time I read the survival rate factors and decided an unknown type of therapy was in the ‘wait and see’ category.
Then the information started to dribble out about side effects, again nope, not me.
And now I have been proven right, again.
I took a micro-biology course in college in 1967 where we isolated DNA and studied RNA and associated enzyme strings, if that is the correct context. I was a math major, not science or medicine. Had to get special permission to take the course which dealt in mathematics, as well. When I read early on in the pandemic that the vaccine possibly manipulated RNA/DNA, with what little knowledge I had,I knew I did not want to touch it. I followed Dr. Malone, the inventor of the mRNA technology, and was convinced that my husband and I made the right decision.
I took the vaccine in March 2021 when my job was at stake, and I very much regret that now. Two weeks before the deadline the mandate was shut down. We has a number of good, quality people leave because of it and they have not been replaced. I had side effects from the second one.
I got c19 in October of 2022, treated with IVM, zinc, vitamins C and D, and was over it in two days. I have had hangovers that were worse. I doubt the vax had any effect from 19 months prior, other than to screw up my immune system. I have a physical approaching, and I am going to request blood work that will assess immune health. I am suspicious, but maybe I got a dose that did not do anything.
Just had to add that ANYONE who’d been following the scam of vaccines pre-Covid would have never taken this crap.
Polio vaccine, smallpox, swine flu. All have much more detrimental effects than the population knows. Read Morris Bealle, Ida Honoroff, soooo many others from back in the day.
Then the dreadful MMR came along. Andy Wakefield is a hero and they totally tried to destroy that guy. And it worked for many years. Now, though, he’s the one laughing last.
Best introduction to the truth of vax is here. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/bretigne-shaffer/first-they-came-for-the-anti-vaxxers/
I did not get the vaccine.
My son is a pharmacist and a medical researcher. Twenty years ago, his very healthy, two-year old daughter, after her ‘routine’ shots, had a seizure. Thus, began his serious medical research. He found that infant vaccinations’ information, from American medical organizations, was sketchy, and sparse. He found that foreign info was much more thorough, detailed, and provided strong documentation and evidence. His pharmacy experience coincided with the foreign information.
He had been researching the “virus in China” long before it hit the news here. His opinion was that the rushed-up vaccine was dangerous because the vaccine was very experimental. There was no credible evidence supporting vaccinations for Covid!
My other son, who was a government contractor was pressured to get the vaccine. He held out a long time but 16 months ago, finally got the Pfizer vaxx and was in CCU a few days after his second shot. Three weeks later, he was home, with pericarditis and myocarditis. He convalesced for a month and returned to work.
I am so saddened to report that he died in his sleep last week. He was 56.
Heart breaking, so sorry for your loss.
I am sincerely sorry, Jane, and know this was a difficult post to write. Praying you will feel the presence in your grief of Almighty God, the source of all comfort. Requiescat in pace.
I refused the vaccination because I KNEW that the virus was a fraud pretty much FROM DAY ONE. Almost immediately (March or April of 2020) I started scouring the alternative press and reading the opinions of highly regarded doctors and scientists. What I found out was their view was in complete contradiction to the government and MSM narrative. None of it measured up to the hysteria, and appeared to be too convenient from a political perspective to be real. Those whom I knew personally that contracted the virus barely suffered. When the CDC officially refuted claims that ivermectin was a powerful therapeutic and disallowed it’s use I knew for certain that this was all bullshit. That doesn’t mean that COVID wasn’t serious to certain demographics but that seriousness was outrageously overstated and then underscored by the falsified death count. The entire response was a fraud, from social distancing to masks to school closures to business shutdowns to the death count- all of it was a fraud. The bottom line here is I did not get the vax because I DO NOT TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I should add that I lost very few friends thru all of this because I live on Orcas Island in San Juan County, Washington state.
It is perhaps the bluest county in the country. Myself, I am a Constitutionalist and a Patriot, ergo, I have few friends here. It’s just the way things are.
Well, I think you have a lot of friends here… my friend! I like the way you think! Godspeed!
William, I am from Washington State as well, one of the most brainwashed, vaccine-compliant, lockdown-happy, mandate-pushing states in the U.S.
My friend, support base is now located elsewhere (including second home in a “free” state).
Hell hath no fury like a Socialist scorned.
This was, precisely, my thinking too.
Couldn’t have said it better myself!!! I don’t trust the government either, and at 79 years old, I’m happy and pleased with my decision to not receive any of the “jabs”. Time has shown them to be nothing but poison. I’ve “lost” an “old friend “ who was so proud of himself for getting jabbed and who kept yelling “What’s wrong with you?” at me for not doing so. All I can say is “good riddance “!