Katie Hobbs, the valley girl uptalker who refused to debate, has been declared the winner of the Arizona Governor race against candidate Kari Lake.
I’m not going to try and impart some great wisdom over this, I am likely more disappointed than most, other than to point out the brutally and painfully obvious. Any electioneering process that takes six days to determine the winner and permits weeks of ballot collection within the construct, is no longer an election based on votes.
I’m not sure what to call these multi-week ballot collection contests, but they do not resemble any election that I can reference in any other western nation. Kari Lake was clearly the superior candidate, and Katie Hobbs is genuinely -no snark- a doofus. However, in this new ballot collection electioneering process, you can make the argument that candidate quality is essentially irrelevant.
Here’s my question. We know from the ground reporting and flawed election systems that thousands of ballots were moved into adjudication because they could not be tabulated by broken machinery and flawed election technology infrastructure. Simple question: Of the ballots that were moved into the “adjudication process”, what percentage of those ballots were for Kari Lake and what percentage were for Katie Hobbs? Start there.
America First MAGA Party – let’s go!
Don’t wait another minute.
Dethrone the RINOs overnight!
VSG PDJT knew this was going to happen in the midterms.
This is what the “The best is yet to come” social media stuff was all about by Don Jr and co.the day the Great MAGA King left office.
And Truth/TMTG. Sign up now.
And buy DWAC stock.
Dekester your fellow Canadian CTH and President Trump supporter
agrees..😎
Let’s not and say we did.
They have broken the social contract. They are lawless and we no longer should obey their dictates and rules.
we are now living in an openly tyrannical government.
‘When in the course of human events……’
Agreed. How to organize?
Civil society precedes the state, both morally and historically. Society creates order and grants the state legitimacy.
If a ruler seeks absolute power, if he acts both as judge and participant in disputes, he puts himself in a state of war with his subjects who then have the right and the duty to kill such rulers and their servants. (John Locke)
I agree with both you and Locke… but we’re clearly at a juncture where uncivil society is the only human power with the necessary mojo. The Left has long since abandoned “civil society” as a useful construct. The media, nonprofits, and political donors (e.g., civil society) are powerless to stop global tyranny at this point.
Bannon talked much about “human agency” over the past 2 years, and his words and many repetitions seem rather hollow at this point to me.
Defeat the Globalist UniParty with a Bottom-up Political Insurgency
Guest post by Lawrence Sellin
It took twenty years, but after a crushing military defeat, the Taliban re-conquered Afghanistan district by district.
Learn from that.
The Globalist UniParty may be able to win in rigged U.S. elections, but we can make it impossible for them to rule.
In my 2013 book “Restoring the Republic – Arguments for a Second America Revolution,” I defined the problem:
“There is a Cold Civil War underway in the United States to determine who should control the federal government. It is not a contest between the Democrat and Republican ideologies, but a battle between the entrenched power of the bipartisan political establishment versus the rights and liberties of the American people.”
“The Cold Civil War is a conflict between those who want to adhere to the Constitution and the rule of law and the party leaders, who wish to continue the practices of political expediency and crony capitalism.”
“The US no longer has representative government. Members of Congress seek election, not to uphold the Constitution and serve the American people, but to obtain power, and to use that power to accrue professional and financial benefits for themselves and their major supporters. All the traditional means for the American people to seek the redress of grievances have now been blocked by a self-absorbed permanent political elite unaccountable to the American people.”
“Republican leaders neither contest that view nor vilify their Democrat counterparts because they do not want to challenge the ruling class, they want to join it. The GOP leadership has gradually solidified its choice to no longer represent what had been its constituency, but to adopt the identity of junior partners in the ruling class.”
The United States is now a de facto one-party state, ruled by an oligarchy comprised of a relatively few rich and powerful globalists, who control the U.S. government and manipulate election outcomes and formulate public policy favorable only to themselves.
The Democrat Party, the Republican establishment, the permanent, dictatorial federal bureaucracy, the media and Big Tech are servants of the oligarchy and are constituent elements the Globalist Uniparty.
The election manipulation is intentionally incomplete, because the existence of a perpetually impotent and controlled opposition, the Republican establishment, is a prerequisite to maintain the illusion of democracy.
Recognizing that election integrity can no longer be guaranteed, a bottom-up political insurgency with the objective of creating Globalist Uniparty-free zones must be initiated if there is any chance to restore the Constitution and limit the power of the federal government through the 10th Amendment, which states:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Fundamental to that effort are the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment.
Each community must establish an organized, disciplined and properly-trained local security force with sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain independence and individual liberty against any entity that might attempt to abuse them.
Once constitutional law enforcement is secured, citizens can then take control of local governments and school boards.
If we cannot restrict them, we should embrace the new voting rules and beat them at their own game. Harvest ballots better than the Globalist Uniparty and employ every electoral ploy you can because, now, winning is the only thing that matters.
At every opportunity, we should disobey the Globalist Uniparty or challenge it in court.
As Globalist Uniparty-free zones proliferate and reach critical mass regionally, a process of “Separation” can begin.
That is, large red regions must separate from blue states, fuse with red states or become new states.
This county-by-county, state-by-state breakdown of the 2016 presidential election can provide a framework because it may be the last relatively accurate representation of voter sentiment before the massive electoral manipulation by the Globalist Uniparty began.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/oped-defeat-globalist-uniparty-bottom-political-insurgency/
https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2022/midterm-results/house
have some j6 folks been pondering that thought – and others – in jails for 2 years..without fair trial…?
You wanna start a revolution? How old are you?
This sounds like it would be a defensive revolution protecting areas that do not accept the globalist/uniparty/thief’s power grab.
We certainly have had no success preserving the republic via current methodology.
Do you disagree and/or have a better idea sir?
The average age of the commenter here is over 50, not the age of a typical revolutionary.
I imagine you’re guessing over 50 from the content of the comment and I agree.
True that is not the typical age for a revolutionary.
We do not live in typical times and much of the youth is weak.
Perhaps that weakness allows for the following phrase (you have have seen it) to come into play.
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.
There is such a thing as passive sabotage. Hobbs had a duty to ensure the machines and local processes were ready and fit for their intended purpose. Hobbs had a duty of due diligence and care to ensure that.
The scope and scale of Hobbs apparent failure to do so is a fact. That fact may also be reasonably seen as apparent objective evidence that Hobbs et al withheld responsible action when they had the time, funding and the fiduciary duty to provide it in preparations for election day.
How is this withholding of duty, apparent deliberate lack of due diligence and resulting apparently premeditated breach of fiduciary responsibility not a form of overt sabotage?
Not sabotage against Kari Lake, but instead sabotage against The People of Arizona whom Hobbs has a sworn duty to serve and protect. And was there selective placement and disproportionate demographic impact of the defective equipment and process failures?
This really has nothing to do with sabotaging Hobbs’ opponent and everything to do with Hobbs sworn duty to The People of Arizona and the office she held.
One should consider if an apparent conspiring to sabotage Arizona voters lawfully seeking to vote is indeed evidence of a willfully criminal heart, if not perhaps also evidence of a premeditated criminal act.
Trying to find a sliver of a silver lining here, about the only thing I can think of is that those here (and there were a few) who called anyone how wasn’t sure of a Masters and/or Laxalt win a “troll” and anyone who became less than lock-sure of a Lake win “$%##$$ trolls!!!”, may not do that again … … … at least for a few days.
I have, and once again apologise for such comments.
As for “silver linings”,…
We have our first MAGA U.S. Senator ever. Can you find him?
We have our first ever MAGA Governor, and they have a “clean sweep” with a supermajority in the State Legislature, A.G. and SoS.
Did you notice?
Oh, and Silver lining.
If KL had won, I take her at her word that she would NOT have wanted to be PDJT’s running mate.
Now, to me its seems as inevitable that she be on the ticket, as it is that HE be on the ticket.
Which puts that odious “Trump/DeSantis 2024”
crap to rest, for good.
I like it.
Irrelevant.
Trump will not be permitted to win. It makes no difference who his running mate is
This election should make that clear. They’re not even trying to be subtle about it anymore.
The idea that we can run up enough votes to overwhelm the steal is quaint, but hopelessly naive.
I really think that even if 100% of the people voted for Trump, they would rig it so he would lose.
> I have, and once again apologise for such comments.
But you haven’t learned yet, apparently…
> Now, to me its seems as inevitable that she be on the ticket, as it is that HE be on the ticket. Which puts that odious “Trump/DeSantis 2024” crap to rest, for good.
VOTE HARDER! THIS TIME WE’LL TOTALLY DO IT!
Yep, and maybe the people who were criticizing others for doubting that voting like our lives depended on it would usher in a glorious red wave have finally come to grips with the new reality of elections in the US.
I’m sure there are still a few here who think we just need to try harder next time.
Read any article from Red State or Town Hall and you will be hard-pressed to find mention of vote fraud as the reason for all the lost races throughout the country. Those sites are pushing, more or less, the line that this is all Trump’s fault and it’s time for him to go away.
Whatever. Gird your loins and Enjoy the next 4 years. Kari Lake won this election but apparently Arizonans are willfully blind as their votes were stolen by a blithering idiot. These are your friends and neighbors…people you have in your homes who cheated.
As in Michigan, and Pennsylvania when the dust settles I hope it will be clear, it was the Republican party that “stole” elections from MAGA, the “Dems” were, at most the “hit man”, with the Reps ordering the hit.
And, because elections are conducted by State officials, most of the political power actually resides at the STATE Government level, while everyone is focused on D.C.
The really sad thing is that if a proper recount and proper audit were done the cheating could probably be ferreted out. But that will never be allowed to happen. It will be a half assed audit that just recounts the votes as entered.
There are statistical methods that can prove the election was fraudulent.
But if we spent four months writing the academic paper & analysis, who would publish it?
If it was published, who would understand it, let alone believe it’s implications?
And if people understood and believed it, would they have the moral courage & spiritual discernment to know what righteous thing to do next?
We in AZ know our election are rigged. The question is, how far will we go to fix it. As it stands now, AZ, MN, PA and MI. are all lost states in the 2024 race.
>Gird your loins…Arizonans are willfully blind as their votes were stolen by a blithering idiot.
Really? Seriously? You don’t see a problem with that?
Let’s bring a bit of fresh air into this discussion. What would you have the young men of AZ do? Riot? Fight in the streets? Who would they fight? Just start shooting random gov’t officials?
A big problem is that there is no community left to defend. The young, able-bodied who would pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor would have to desire to fight for:
There’s barely anyone left to fight for. Even showing up to “protest” will get you thrown in a political gulag for years and ignored by the one person who asked you to protest, told you were to go, abandoned you, and didn’t pardon you when he could have.
Tell me, why should anyone sacrifice anything in that circumstance, for those people?
When people turn back to Christ, strong men willing to defend their families, their communities, their churches, and their people will again arise. Until that time, good luck. God has withdrawn His sheltering hand, and everyone will get what they’ve always advocated for, good and hard.
Great post
Not in Cochise County! It is a known fact that KL was the choice of the majority. I proudly stand with the majority of Cochise County residents!
Whatever happened to “Too Close To Call”?
I hope Ms. Lake does not concede, as there were obviously a whole lot of shenanigans going on — which stink to High Heaven!
What happened due to the shenanigans in AZ in 2020? In the end…apparently nothing. I think Trump won AZ in 2020 but the story of all the suspicious votes died. What happened to Jovan Pulitzer?
Thanks for the reminder. One night I watched a live stream that Pulitzer presented from AZ no less. It was interrupted by a fire alarm in the building that the presentation was taking place. He went through all sorts of crazy (?) analysis of scanning ballot images and wild sophisticated manipulations that supposedly took place. He has an impressive resume but I still don’t know if it was some kind of grift or just attention seeking. It never went anywhere, as usual.
If we the people accept this as a fair election, we will never have, nor deserve, a fair election again.
I think that ship sailed when there were no consequences for the blatant, in your face steal of 2020.
There were a whole lot of us who didn’t realize then how deep the corruption went. Two years ago I would have happily taken evidence to the FBI!
two years ago you would have believed Wray and his minions?…..boy are you a trusting one
I used to be…
This is akin to the “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin” arguments
Just a few days ago . . . .
I was delighted to have convinced an Hispanic friend that his values based on love of God and family were conservative values, that he was not a Democrat or a liberal at all. This was a revelation for him and, when he learned more, he told me that, yes, he is a conservative.
I told him, while registered as an independent, he could vote in theAZ primary, something he had never done before. I explained how so few people vote in primaries that often the choices we end up with for the general election are terrible.
On primary day he proudly announced that he’d voted for Kari Lake, Abe Hamedeh, Blake Masters, Mark Finchem, and all the rest whom I had suggested to him.
His enthusiasm extended to his family and a few friends. We were all fired up for Kari Lake! Of course, I was thrilled knowing I had lit a spark that resulted in this small cadre of new conservative voters. Not a big deal compared to others, but every vote is important, right?
Now I’m sick about seeing my Hispanic friend again, after all the enthusiasm and pride we shared in voting, when it’s obviously a sham and our votes meant nothing..
At age 74 I know I’m resilient and will come out of this funk, but at the moment I feel like wearing a tee-shirt with DISENFRANCHISED printed on the back. I should wear a black band on my arm, because what was precious to me has died.
Don’t give up friend. You should still be proud of what you did and stay strong for your friend because together we will fix this.
Thank you, Evolute. You brought tears to my eyes.
So, your next job is to explain to your new Mexican friends what really happened with this election fraud and explain how it was stolen and that they should lodge a formal complaint with the board of elections and call for a new election.
Is that an option in Arizona?
That better be an option. Because accepting the result as a fair election is not an option.
Those in charge don’t care if you accept it or not. They only care whether or not you’ll comply, and how much force it will take to make you comply.
Well said. Compliance is not an option.
Your options are:
A.) Compliance
B.) Violence
C.) Death
You get to choose do them in any order you desire, but unless you choose A first, the other two are guaranteed.
There is always non-violent non-compliance, but as we saw with the Canadian trucker protests, this will be met by forceful repression by the State.
I think it’s time for people to drop back and organize in their Churches, gun clubs, and communities, speak freely and openly, and allow the divine hand of God to work through our people.
Perhaps a spiritual revolution – a new Great Awakening – followed by a wildcat strike (“unauthorized general strike / work stoppage”), is one possible path forward.
So true Abigail.
I think rvsue needs to go and find her friend and sit down and talk to him and try explain what happened and how the election was stolen.
How his vote and the votes of his families were stolen by the down and dirty dog RINOs and Dems.
Talk to him about what the Uniparty and the global elites are trying to do to our once beautiful country.
The friend of rvsue and all of his family who are new conservative voters need to be as mad as he** about this fraud in Az.
You’ve done everything right and that’s what really matters. This time of loss is but temporary. You’ve written into stone how wonderfully powerful you are. Nothing can change that.
Not one of us feels good about anything right now. These things of opposition are important to experience so that we know what it is and learn how to fight it.
The power of heart, might, mind and strength is now being fortified in each of us. All of these things you do are for the greater good and will last forever.
Your friend is now learning these very same things.
You’re right, Justice. Thanks. Very wise.
Be proud of the spark you lit in your friends. New converts are the ones that will win this battle. I’ve been wide awake for 20 years and found a home here at the treehouse over 10 years ago. I’m still determined but I am tired and worn down. I’m sure you are too.
In nearly every movement, new members are always the most enthusiastic. We need that more than anything and more than ever now. Thank you for keeping the dream alive for future generations.
Be proud for helping your friend. No doubt he’s feeling like you and the rest of us here. Hook him up with Sundance’s recent articles about ballots v. votes for starters and tell him to divulge himself into reading more info here. It will be illuminating albeit disheartening too I’m sure. Tell him to share CTH with his like minded family & acquaintances. The more eyes opened to the reality vs. the msm & Uniparty bs, the better.
Not shocked. But very disturbed. Just another sign that humans live in a time when darkness prevails over the light. Some call it Satan, others the Kali Yuga. There are always consequences @Oldjunkfixer. I don’t believe they are always downstream to the peoples.
“Some call it Satan, others the Kali Yuga. “
I call it Democrats.
Uniparty- there FIFY
Uniparty. This could never have happened without our Republican “friends” going along with it.
True “offcoursenation”.
Here in America we call it Democrats but it is the same old evil that has been in the world for a long long time.
It has happened in other countries for thousands of years under different names, but it is the same ugliness.
It is a bit shocking for all of us Americans because we have been free of this kind of crap for the most part since our country started.
But any one else who came from some where else and lived with the history of their native country know and understand how fragile freedom is.
My mother was born and raised in Europe and had such a different perspective on life and taking things for granted.
Tyrants and insane political leaders making the citizens lives miserable were more the norm in her family history than what we have here in America.
I am not saying that we should not be shocked and upset by the situation we are in right now.
Just that it really is not new for most of the world, it waxes and wanes more out there.
I suppose we will see how we here in America are going to handle the power grab of our insane tyrants now trying to take more than they are legally allowed.
Will we storm the Bastille and start cutting off their heads?
Will we retreat into the rural areas and fight our revolution like the South American rebels tried to do?
Will we hang on and hope they die out eventually like the people who suffered under the insane Monarchs did, trying to wait for the old King to die and hoping the new one was nicer?
America and American’s are pretty unique in the world, we may do something very different, something that has never been tried before.
God Bless America, and I mean that with all my heart.
“As Rosemary says in Rosemary’s Baby. Oh, my God, this is no dream. This is really happening as she’s being raped by Satan. That’s where we’re at…” (Michael Walsh on societal decline)
It’s a plan that the Dems take the Senate and the repubs get the house. What about the Fillibuster? Has anyone even mentioned that? No. Last week Rona McDaniel was like talking to some Moron I think Dana( I can’t smile), Bash. “Oh it as a Red Wave. We got rid of Nancy Pelosi !”
I’m disgusted. Disgusted and thoroughly hacked off.
Our nation is lost. We will NEVER EVER EVER EVER recover a ONE DAY vote. Why? Because to do so would be to disenfranchise all those so-called voters who give ballots to collectors. And to disenfranchise a voter is rayciss. We’re done. It’s over. And let me welcome 6M new ballots … Bienvenidos ballotto muchachos
Interesting and tragic is that leveraging the narrative of racism has resulted with us all enslaved by a totalitarian government.
A little good news.
Fox Online Now has Reps 217, Dems 205, called for the US House (with 218 needed to win).
So I would say, 90% in the bag. (Dems could still call for some recounts)
Hopefully, one of the first things Reps in the House will do is investigate (with supeona power) the Arizona election among others.
Come on man. Kari Lake had it 99% in the bag and still “lost”.
Hobbs never trailed. Hobbs was ALWAYS in first place … will be the argument made by the ballot collectors and counters.
That’s how I saw it about K L and was sure she would win until this weekend. I finally realized the cheaters had all weekend to screw her and us over. After that I lost hope and today I knew she was gone . She was my last hope for things to get better .
I love Trump but he can’t do it alone, they DS hates him too much. Machines and ballots won and we lost. Heart breaking. I love this Country and the treehouse. Yes I will vote for President Trump if he runs again but with less hope than before .
I can’t wait for a bunch of limp dick Republicans to make some noise about investigations. Maybe Jim whatever his name is from Ohio will say some stern things on camera or something.
But anyone who sets their expectations that the GOP will do anything useful is fooling themselves.
I am not hopeless. Well, at the Federal level, I am. I don’t give a damn about which Party is in charge up there – they both are my enemies.
I am focused, and hopeful, on my local level. That’s all that matters to me as it’s the only thing that I can affect.
For those calling for “recounts” and such, please note that the count now consists of both legitimate and illegitimate ballots. “Recounts” are not a solution to this level of corruption.
Not recount, audit !!
And a re-do of the election. On paper, hand counted, one day, and keep doing do-overs until you get one without even the appearance of impropriety.
The election should have been nullified as corrupt when the machines began to malfunction on voting day, or again this weekend when ballots were taken to the printer’s office for copying, or when it was determined that AG Hobes was overseeing her own election. Corrupt. The military should intervene and call for a one day election, in person, with voter ID and hand counting ballots to be completed SAME DAY.
You are right, but our military has been gutted of people with principle. (But I don’t expect they will eagerly do the bidding of those who forced the jab on them either.)
There are a lot of people still in government who are with us (if not, most MAGA leaders would be dead by now!) but it is not nearly as simple to organize to demand a do-over of the election as it would be if we had the military with us. Still, it’s what we have to do, according to the Declaration of Independence. “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
the US military nor the federal government has jurisdiction…….Ducey and the worthless AZ Assembly need to do their jobs and go into special session and refuse to certify calling for a redo…but we know they won’t do that
> The military should intervene and call for a one day election, in person, with voter ID and hand counting ballots to be completed SAME DAY.
You may need to try re-reading The Constitution.
Yes .
But I would think that deciding what is a legitimate vs illegitimate ballot would be part of the recount process.
There is no point in just taking a stack of ballots and counting and then tying totals to the machine totals.
The ballot would have to be inspected for the adjustments made during an adjudication process…talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.
These machines were brought in intentionally by the election board/political gurus to complicate a rather simple system of pencil, paper, 1 vote for 1 person. With the machines and motor/voter/public assistance, etc. these machines also inflated the voter rolls, as was expected by many when all of that fraud was proposed.
A real audit of the entire process will never be allowed.
There are still outstanding votes remaining and this difference 0.82 %. I don’t know Arizona election laws, but I would expect that the Lake campaign has enough evidence for a challenge and hand recount.
With 30% of the machines malfunctioning but only on Election Day? If you don’t think that’s enough reason for a do-over right there, I wouldn’t want to even play checkers with you.
some were “malfunctioning” for up to 8 hours of “election day” too all the way up to 2 PM
saw someone here say AZ law does not allow for a called recount but anything less than 0.5% is an automatic one….you can be sure the final tally will be just over that line
A recount of fraudulent ballots results in the same fraudulent result.
“The American people have made clear they expect Republicans to work with me as well,” the fake President said.
Yeah, sure Joe, we’ll work with you.
David Valadao, the only surviving member of the GOP who voted to impeach Trump.
Amazing, with Cindy McCains assistance, it took George Soros less then six years to take over Arizona… The long relationship between McCain and and Soros and it’s final result is Nasty Johns final middle finger to all of us from whatever circle of hell he’s shoveling coal in…
I’m not sure why you think Soros wasn’t involved long before with John McCain when he was still living. It didn’t take him six years… AZ has been compromised since the 80s (and earlier).
I’m not sure you read my note carefully… I make clear that the “living” McCain had a LONG relationship with Soros. One that was legitimized with Soros Open Society group funding the McCain Institute starting in 2001. In terms of taking control, both Hobbs and Fontes are his creatures, he’s directly funded them since 2016 and he used Cindy McCain to split the Party in Arizona to get these two into power and take TOTAL control… I’m not sure I needed to go into this much detail but you seem like you are having difficulty reading my note, so I elaborated for better understanding on your part…
Counting AZ ballots probably went a lot like this…
https://www.bitchute.com/video/I3msRHEV8FEM/
I’m stunned…but I shouldn’t be. Biden, Fetterman, Hobbs….none worthy of representing us. All that matters now is that you have a D behind your name. Truly infuriating and frightening ….
Since Kari Lake will not be on the national stage (certainly not nearly as much as she would be as Governor), it is now even more important that Donald Trump announce he is officially running for President.
VOTE HARDER!
I think these elections are crooked, there have been lots of reasons to believe this, and none of them have been dealt with. I have lost all confidence in any of it. I have to accept the fact that I am being ruled by lowlife shit that has floated to the top of the cesspool.
AZ joins PA, MI & GA where MAGA or any GOP can win a statewide election for a national office. Everyone knows they will cheat to high heaven & after all these years it can’t be stopped. Third world country.
I think you meant can not win.
“Third World” was a phrase denoting unaligned nations during the Cold War. The “First World” was the U.S./NATO and the “Second World” was the Soviet Union and allies. The “Third World” was everyone else. People mistake it as meaning low-tech dumps.
We’re not third world. We’re a banana republic, a corruptocracy, an oligarchy… a shithole, if you will.
No one should have to obey the laws or regulations these politicians try to pass. They are cheating. Citizens need to start protesting. Both political parties are involved in this!
There is so much wrong with this. Katie Hobbs is not the governor of Arizona! This woman belongs in prison period. She is responsible for the debacle in Arizona in 2020. There is no way this woman won. I live in Arizona and more than just one county had machines shut down due to whatever lies they spewed. People were turned away from voting. This was a total setup! I for one do not trust the media and we in Arizona are not buying it!
I can second you ashley!!! I just hope we can get this in the light and fix.
We need a do-over.
So whatcha gonna do Ashley?
> Katie Hobbs is not the governor of Arizona!
I think you mean she wasn’t elected. She will be sworn in. And Joe Biden was not elected, but he is the President. So what?
Ditto
So what are the people in Arizona gonna do about it? The power resides in the people.
Remember, the democrat voter is completely ok with this. Note one word of protest on behalf of fellow Americans who have every reason to believe they were cheated. All of them toting the Party line. They’re not for transparency, fairness, or legitimacy because they know they’re in the minority. We have to burn the Republican Party down to ashes first with an America First Party alternative, but this is who we’re up against once we are organized. Remember, and no quarter when the time comes.
I have Democrat relatives that are cheering as I type this. To them the end justifies the means. They do not care. They have public pensions and benefits. They play with house money.
I have those relatives as well, but I don’t think mine even perceive that fraud is taking place.
The media, establishment, and big tech tell them what they want to hear–that they won fair and square–and they see nothing else.
When they sneer at “election deniers” I don’t think they are faking it. They really BELIEVE the lie
my daughter and rabid SIL grin with glee at such tactics and discount any discussion of their dishonesty in elections
They better brush up on their dumpster diving skills. The rest of us know what is next and are prepared.
” PUT DRAW 3 BALLOTS in BLACK GARBAGE BAGS with TIE WRAPS “…
( WE DESERVE HELL – IF THIS TRANSITIVITY Is NOT CORRECTED )
Whitney Webb: “I just don’t want my government to be controlled by organized crime.”
Who cares what the “Media” say — I want to hear a valid vote count!
This was not an election. Kari Lake won. If you think differently, prove it with a do-over, hand counted, on paper, with not even any appearance of impropriety (for instance, nobody involved with any of the “irregularities” gets to work this election.)
True the Vote has the resources and personnel to try something different. I’ll bet they have a copy of the voter rolls for AZ too.
So could they put out public statewide ads and conservative sites to ask every Republican who voted to contact them and compare it to the voter rolls, which should also have their names recorded as having voted.
If there are a lot more who say they voted vs the voter rolls records, it would give some anecdotal basis to the contention that their votes were not counted at all or were possibly tabulated as Democrat votes by the machines.
It’s a starting point in an investigation for fraud.
The pundits are all contending that we lost because Republican voters stayed home. I find that hard to believe, given the outrage at the literal destruction of our military, the economy, the border, the schools, energy prices, etc etc., that somehow we would not be as motivated as the Communists to vote.
One of our problems is we don’t have any real idea if we did or did not as a whole, because the only thing we have to go on is the polls, who mostly said a red wave was likely.
Yet Biden, Pelosi, at al, began to seem more confident and less concerned about the outcome some time ago. Did they know something about how they were going to win?
Biden said it on live TV and no one batted an eye.
We all need to recognize that ‘America the Beautiful’ no longer exists. We lost it little by little through the last 100 years! Hobbs is nothing more than a puppet in the hands of D.C. , Soros, and all the others we do not even know around the world who want to destroy who we are and what we stand for. Hobbs and her ilk take their orders like good little mindless beings or else! Those in control do not even care if we live or die. Does anyone really believe Montana approved of killing babies after they are born? We are being set up to take out each other in order for those in control to not have to lift a hand! There is truly no resource more powerful and able to protect us than the ‘one’ I know. When I was in college I read and believed National Review. I saw what the Dems did to Goldwater to cause him to lose (or did he)! I have been around for a long time and watched as our nation sucombed to the lies without seeing the end picture of a destroyed USA. We are throw away people now and there is only one place to go—GOD ALMIGHTY! Do not turn away from HIM, or laugh or sneer. HE created this world and will not let it be destroyed, including America and its dedication to the LORD back in the 1600’s. We have been lulled into believing GOD is powerless. But HE has taken away the blessings we have enjoyed for so long because we have taken HIM out of our lives, schools and gov’t. Have you seen the passion and numbers of true Americans at Trump and CPAC rallies? We are hated because they fear the strength they instinctively know we have by our faith in JESUS CHRIST! I know where I will spend eternity, and I know that our country will be restored in the near future after great destruction! BUT GOD will have the final say and if people do not get right with HIM they will not be back on earth to see the magnificence our LORD has promised in the HOLY BIBLE. People, WAKE UP! Don’t die fighting the enemy. We cannot win! But GOD can and will! HE is bigger than all creation because HE made it! Believe me, GOD will be the final Victor over all who hate us including Satan! ‘Stand Up Stand Up For JESUS’ and Kari Lake would agree with every word I have written. What about you?
Boy, did I call it or not?
November 9, 2022 3:37 pm
What happened in these midterm elections is the result of a deal made sometime ago by the leadership of the 2 clubs that form the Uniparty with the goal of ending the political career of Donald Trump. The Republican leadership allowed the Dems to win the White House in 2020. But, since Trump did not go in a fetal position after Nov 3rd and Jan 6th, yesterday had to happen. All the Trump candidates were eliminated, Trump was left looking like a loser and a large path was opened for DeSantis for the Republican nomination and the Presidency in 2024. Most likely Reps will get the governorship in Nevada in exchange for the governorship in AZ going to Hobbs.
Since the great USA is now the largest banana republic in world, where the elections are decided by the Uniparty, on Nov 15th, Trump should announce that he is retiring from politics and say: “I leave you with Biden and Fetterman. Go F*** Yourselves!”.
Link here:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/09/big-picture-2020-midterm-elections-highlights-distinct-difference-between-ballots-and-votes/comment-page-4/#comment-9316038
Let’s not forget: Hobbs is being rewarded for 2020.
With that, all the main Trump-endorsed candidates are gone. “Mission Accomplished” – the banner is flying on a sinking ship.
I’m curious what your explanation is of there being 60,196 more votes counted with the current snapshot of the state treasurer’s race than the governor’s race.
Surely, the state treasurer isn’t a position causing a massive rush to the polls that ignored the governor? Is it?
I’ve been watching this across the major state races comparing the ballot drops to the snapshots the SoS posts, screenshotting them as I go.
Won’t change anything but it’s good information personally for next steps.
Dunes, Did the same locally. Clearly, things don’t mesh, even down to the city council races.
They wanted to stop Kari Lake (Trump-endorsed star), they did not care about the Treasurer. So they lost some Rep votes in the Gov race.
They essentially gave Katie Hobbs the governorship for fixing the 2020 election against Trump. Do as your told and you’ll go far with the deep state.
In that case, the politicians in PA are going to go really, really far!
Being somewhat a US history buff suggest, if you don’t already know, read up on. “ The Battle of Athens Tennessee”
It wasn’t that long ago (I think 1946)
Back when this Country had real men
Covid was the successful naval bombardment softening up the defenses for the final campaign, augmented by the resultant economic attacks.
Ballots cast by voters can be tallied as they happen. Ballots manufactured by algorithms require observation time to respond to tallied voter ballots to obtain desired outcome.
The decimal points always raised a red flag for me, along with the negative votes.
I’ve worked many elections before computers and after computers.
1 person/1 vote does not equal a fraction of a vote or a subtraction of a vote.
No kidding , Maquis . smh
The Perfect Meme
Just like a brain damaged Fetterman beat a brain surgeon Oz! Yep delayed voting has one helluva record electing inferior candidates! Notice the inferior candidates are ALWAYS Democrats! They can get by with a little help from their friends!
I looked at Lakes background when she first came on the scene and said no way in hell.
I know, she’s “reformed”. Sure.
We don’t let reformed pedophiles babysit our kids and we shouldn’t let “reformed” Obama lickers babysit our gov’t.
Hobbs had idiot written all over her but better an idiot than a mole.
I’m glad she lost, legit or not.
Fox News just reported on Hobbs win: “Not so fast; a recount is on the horizon.”
What we need is a door to door canvas to check that votes got counted correctly, were not changed, and to that no ballots were sent in fraudulently on behalf of other people. We also need a deep forensic investigation of the ballots that could not be scanned on election day.
I am also concerned with the mail in ballots in Maricopa County being taken to a privately owned printing facility for scanning before being transferred to the county for counting.
Pima County also seems deeply rigged.
Yeah, a recount that includes illegitimate ballots. Be thrilled.
Faux News happily reported on Nevada Laxalt’s defeat as well, forget the fact all the ballots had not been counted yet.
I have come to regard Fox as pure evil.
I’m thinking about selling the house and moving. The thought of having a commie governor when things go to hell scares me.
Interesting point Gina.
I have never thought much about where we live until the last few months.
Since then I have been very glad we live in a rural red country.
My state is considered blue but my area is very conservative, red and isolated.
We have a lot of Amish around us, nice people and very friendly.
Every one will need to provide the best they can for themselves and having good neighbors will help either in a city or a rural area.
Start making friends and even grouping together a bit.
Find people around you that think like you and will help you out if times get tough.
Not just physically but mentally and spiritually.
I call BULLSHIT!
Time to call in the lawyers, the top notch election fraud investigators.
It ain’t over til it’ over and it damn sure ain’t over!
First have the recount. Then indict the perps with sufficient prison time to deter others. AZ voters should do a Brazil. Massive protests in the streets. Kick all the Dems out of the state house. Impeach the judges. Then go for the jugular quickly before they have time to regroup.
“Rommel, you magnificent b’tard…I read your book.” George C. Scott as Gen. Patton.
By the way, how that Brazil thing worked out?
Arizona has the patriots. We saw it up close and personal when the convoy moved through the state. What matters is whether enough of them are willing to go to the mat.
Had Patton had his way, perhaps none of this would’ve happened. We would’ve destroyed the Soviets and, with them, Communism, for a good long time. Instead, it merely immigrated.
What would you have the young men of AZ do? Riot? Fight in the streets? Who would they fight? Just start shooting random gov’t officials?
A big problem is that there is no community left to defend. The young, able-bodied who would pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor would have to desire to fight for:
A.) Those who continue to claim they are “owed” something for paying into a tax/ponzi scheme like they weren’t aware of the court cases stating it was just a tax and a ponzi scheme, and they’re going to take it out of the hides of the younger generation come hell or high water, and then talk out of the other side of their mouth about the evils of socialism and free-loaders when it comes to a debt jubilee (biblical, mandated) to predatory student loans that enslave and cannot and will not ever be paid back.
B.) e-thots selling everything, and I do mean literally everything, online and who will never make good wives.
C.) foreigners who don’t speak the language, don’t understand the culture, and have no desire to ever integrate with America and are only here to take as much loot from it as they can.
D.) the baby-killers and wannabe baby-killers
E.) those that advocate for and push all manner of sexual deviancy
F.) those that advocate for and do mutilate children’s sexual organs while claiming it is “life-affirming care.”
G.) the 13% that commit 52% of violent crimes
H.) the 2% that run all the banks, media conglomerates, big tech, and high offices
There’s barely anyone left to fight for. Even showing up to “protest” will get you thrown in a political gulag for years and ignored by the one person who asked you to protest, told you were to go, abandoned you, and didn’t pardon you when he could have.
Tell me, why should anyone sacrifice anything in that circumstance, for those people?
When people turn back to Christ, strong men willing to defend their families, their communities, their churches, and their people will again arise. Until that time, good luck. God has withdrawn His sheltering hand, and everyone will get what they’ve always advocated for, good and hard.
(EDIT: formatting lists is problematic…)
The gist of this is that the game in DC, the states, or localities do not serve the American people.
It serves special interest groups (funding) and Moneyed interests, both of which may or may not be American (Ukraine money laundry, aka “war” for example).
In fact, DC is willfully making us all into debt slaves without any concern for our lives or livelihood.
No concern for our future, or our children’s futures.
The Party Game is simply a soap opera (kabuki) to keep us divided so that we the people do not unite and become a threat.
Elections are a distraction to give us the illusion that WE have a say. (Don’t you get it yet—we don’t)
Both parties are complicit in robbing and raping ALL Americans, yet they are successful in getting us to incorrectly direct our angst and discomfort at each other rather than at THEM . There is a huge industry that serves this crap up nonstop.
And yet we have people on this board screaming about having to vote.
Why waste the time and emotional energy on any of this illusory construct?
Unless someone has a genius solution to drastically alter the warped and degenerate grift that our government has become, there is NOTHING to discuss. All this shite talk is navel gazing, nibbling around the edges.
This Grift system is very hardwired into all levels of Gov’t now, (witness the vote “anomalies” at every level) and Trump pulling back the curtain hardened the grifter’s resolve and forced the corrupt to go all-in on the rigging.
The cheating has become very obvious, but at the end of the day, do we the people have any power or leverage to right these wrongs? The devils laugh at our protestations and say “so what? Do something about it little man”. Many have worked diligently (True the Vote for example) to document and expose fraud, but to what end? incarceration?.
In recent days a simple and very pointed plan was suggested: Quit the party. Kill the two party system by refusing to play along. VAPORIZE the part of the ILLUSION that requires your participation by simply refusing to play along any more.
Watch things change when REPUBLICANS realize they have NO VOTERS to elect them and no saps in the public to enrich them with small donations. HANG THEM OUT TO DRY.
Stop allowing these FUC#ER$ to yank your chain, because whether you participate or not, the status quo is that elections are NOT going to produce an outcome that is favorable to the American People.
Per the founders, this government only exists by the consent of we the people –
Take back your power, WITHDRAW YOUR CONSENT!
So give up and don’t even vote…Seems like a dumb idea
I’m more a Winston Churchill type: We fight and we never never never give up. This nation, founded by divine providence is worth fighting for.
I am not giving up, I am offering a strategy to show the parties OUR strength.
Shed your identifier- No R- no D -no independent- no green
Become “decline to state”. (DTS) in CA. anyway
Gee, and what else could DTS mean????? “Donald Trump Soldier” or????
How hard is this folks?
Try reading for comprehension Gina.
No, by all means vote. Just realize that your vote will most likely be stolen.
Maybe you need to reread what he wrote. He’s not advocating “giving up.”
Yes, withdraw consent. Economic warfare. Force the Communists to employ violence and inflict casualties more than they already have.
Most are focused on surviving. Shift focus. It’s a choice.
Not to force violence, to force a point. It is OUR country.
Votes versus ballots.
We cannot be diverted into the side stream of voting into deeply controlled elections.
And ranting about guns or the second amendment is beyond comical.
Voting at the grass roots level remains essential.
And the path to breaking the backs of the multi-nationals with our patronage has barely been tried.
Somehow our existential enemies of the cable TV companies remain in business.
Serious people would have crushed these entities long ago.
Fox should never have survived the 2020 election. Mark Steyn of GB mocks the tiny audience for his News Corp (Murdoch/Fox) rival in Britain. Could such a failure have survived without State support?
The coming recession may inadvertently do more damage than the big corporations intended to survive to defeat Trump. While his supporters just can’t be bothered.
But re-electing Republicans sinecures in Congress is surely, undoubtedly not the way home.
THIS is a Declaration of War…. stand with the Republic… or die…
Kari Lake should organize a recall election of Hobbs as soon as legally possible in AZ. Keep the pressure on.
Yep, that’ll go well. Just like Newsom in CA.
” Legally?” what does that word even mean anymore????
I know you guys will think me crazy but the “ballots versus votes” will be a legacy statement and concept. Our kids will see this phrase in the history book 50 years from now, and imagery will be the retaking of own governance. It is really quite fitting.
I don’t think there will be history books 50 years from now. Also, your kids will be old 50 years from now.
Sigh. 2022 turned out to be not much better than 2020 even after two years of the Biden Fiasco. At least my Republican Congresswoman Young Kim won. At this point I don’t see how 2024 would turn out well for President Trump or ANY other Republican Presidential candidate as long as Democrats ballots collection electioneering process that can determine statewide races continue unabated in key states like AZ, MI, and PA. They are well protected by the corporate media which is still very effective with its propaganda operation as can be seen in how they’re managing the European people into committing economic suicide.
DeSantis will be allowed to win as part of the deal made within the Uniparty.
Possibly, but he is being touted as a man with “such character who if defeated would accept defeat gracefully”.
DeSanctimonious
Sundance,
After some time has passed, I would love to see you perform a thorough autopsy on this election disaster along with a prescription for the future. Both short term (what realistically can be accomplished in less than 2 years) and beyond. Plus any new sand-in-the-gears ideas you might have for the assembled multitude.
thank you
BKC
So, the Republican party bequeaths and bestows upon all the Republic, 1 state, Florida, and 1 Governor, Ron Di Santis.
What makes him so special and Kari Lake so unworthy?
I’m saying it right now. I am voting for Trump. I am voting for MAGA.
I am not voting for a cheap China knock off.
What makes Kari Lake so “unworthy” to the GOP establishment is the fact that she, like President Trump, does not back down from saying our elections are being stolen. Have those words ever come out of DeSantis’s mouth? I don’t think so.
This race is not over. We will just have to wait to see how Kari Lake’s campaign responds. Thousands of ballots were disenfranchised illegally, and we know that UNCOUNTED Republican ballots were mixed into the container with counted ballots, thus cheating those voters out of having their votes counted. Don’t get discouraged, we knew it would be another steal, but how much of it they get away with is not yet decided.
It’s decided.
It was decided 2 years ago that Hobbs would be rewarded for her actions.
Arizona Voters speak Out on Election Day Debacle in Maricopa County
https://rumble.com/v1u7n3q-exclusive-arizona-voters-speak-out-on-election-day-debacle-in-maricopa-coun.html
Part 2 Arizona Voters speak Out on Election Day Debacle in Maricopa County
https://rumble.com/v1ugs5a-part-2-arizona-voters-speak-out-on-election-day-debacle-in-maricopa-county.html
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