The old axiom where someone yells, “look over there folks, shiny things“… as a process of distraction, is entirely apropos of how corporations that are running our current election systems are using the Trump -v- DeSantis discussion; with the backdrop of the 2022 midterm election as context.
So, before moving forward to the heart of what we are being distracted from, check out this article from David Solway, he’s correct. Unless and until the critical issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots” is corrected, pushing DeSantis into the war against the administrative state is akin to throwing a decent general into a lost war.
[…] “In a rigged electoral system, no Republican candidate, not even DeSantis, can be expected to win a national election. DeSantis cruised to victory in Florida because, as governor of the state, he had the means and the authority to ensure a clean election. But he would be helpless against a massive crime organization, aka the Democrat Party, which effectively controls the electoral infrastructure, the physical apparatus, the paid loyalty of election workers, and the federal agencies that oversee the process. If the system is not repaired and made answerable to the people, there will never be a Republican president again.” (READ MORE)
The presumption within the article is that DeSantis is not a participating member of the corporate control system, which, despite the eloquence of the article word assembly, I am not quite willing to accept; especially, with our long history of research into how the administrative state operates proactively to control the levers of power.
However, that said…. let us assume that Deep State operatives from the U.S. State Dept and coordinated globalist operations, in combination with multinational corporations and Wall Street financing, are just accidental to the political orbit of the Florida Governor… and if the assumption of altruistic intent is the guiding naiveté I am requested to accept, then the framework of the author’s prediction is entirely accurate.
Either way, until we address the 800lb gorilla in the room of intentional mass distribution of state and federal election ballots, to low agency or non-existent recipients, for early gathering, trying to amass enough ‘votes’ to defeat a large scale and industrial ‘ballot’ gathering operation is futile.
“The main issue is ballot harvesting [legal gathering] and no-excuse universal mail in ballots. Republicans need to spend big cultivating harvesting operations in key districts across the country where it’s legal until they have enough power to outlaw it, along with no-excuse mail ins.”
[…] Remember, a ballot isn’t the same as a vote and the Democrats GOTV machine know this much better than Republicans seem to. Not saying it’s right, but it’s reality and we can’t live in fantasy land. [Tweet Thread]
They are acting like cabals, thugs, gangs, mafioso. We act like good citizens.
and very much like those social arrangements, there are NEVER very many of the thugs. hey rely on the people never being willing to stand up, as a group, and refuse to comply. Very selective fear and violence works very well for them, because the people will say “what can we do? if I stand up i will simply be cut down.”
One of these days, we will realize what a thin facade they hide behind. But first, the people must be willing to band together, as one, and tear that facade down.
In the meantime, my latte is getting cold. and of course, I am a fed for even suggesting you think about anything other than shutting your mouth and waiting your turn to “vote” again.
Maybe we should finally fight fire with fire? Once and for ALL!
YEP. It’s really the only way.
As I have been saying: they wage war while we don’t.
YOu either go to war with them or you don’t and WAR PAYS NO ATTENTION TO RULES,
You mean Republicans can legally “harvest” votes *after* Election Day, too? Hmmm.. where do we start?
How about all those working stiffs on the commuter trains? Maybe congregants attending church services? Ballparks? Little league fields?
I know.. military installations and police precincts! They’d have to be nuts to vote demonrat! I’m sure the My Pillow guy could scan his customer base and harvest a bunch of new ballots too!
Jordan Peterson says find your inner brute and tame it. But you have to be willing to bring it out at the right time. Acting like a floor mat gets you nowhere.
Correction. Good SUBJECTS
You are 100% spot on as usual Sundance…I have been writing this for a few days…Why would Desantis or Trump bother at this point? I hate to say it but its true – These people want DeSantis to run to get him out of Florida so they can destroy that.
If the Lefties take the house and Senate….there is UNFINISHED business with DeSantis pulling that Martha’s Vineyard Stunt.. And you know they are going to try and take him out….. regardless they want Florida DeSantis free…
I can not see for the life of me DeSantis running…Why bother…he has no path to begin with… and it will be two more years from now when the democrats will be onto something else to cement victories …Plus if the Dems win 2022…Kiss the Filibuster goodbye and the Supreme court will have lots of new faces…. And that Abortion law with become null and void…Its going to happen….
and the person waiting for all this is non other than Marco Rubio…because he really thinks he’s something special
“…he has no path to begin with…”
why does he need a “path” to win?
Just being honest here… but if someone offered me a way to secure my families safety and comfort for the desolation and disasters to come, and all i had to do was throw a fight that was not winnable to begin with – I would THROW THE FIGHT.
The former republic of the US is not salvagable using ANY tool that the illegitimate regime puts forth: not “voting”, not the courts, not sending letters to congress, nothing.
PERIOD.
until we realize that the path to restoration lies OUTSIDE of the sanctioned government methods, we will lose. you cannot beat the poison by taking more poison.
PERIOD. FULL STOP. REPEAT THE SENTENCE.
Great Post!
Same here in Canada.
Individuals we know are doing well working around the corruption.
God bless PDJT
I’m tired of repeating the crap. 2 years from now will be way different, the democrats will be better at what they do. Look at what they are getting away with…imprisoning Americans with no bail…give em an inch and they take a mile – Trump is not going to Run… Nor will DeSantis….and if he is stupid enough to do it golden boy Rubio will take him out.
DeSantis has been entirely protected from corporate and Democrat blowback unlike every other Republican governor across the country. The Disney stunt alone would have dearly cost every other governor.
He’s been set up to be Trump’s “acceptable” replacement since the DC swamp can’t risk a second Trump term.
And the very oddly and allowed blow out election in FL. Strategic, it seems with both Dominion and ERIC in place. There are no coincidences. And the new DeSantisan buzz is to have other Govs have RDS show them how. What an insult to all red states that run honest elections.
Yes! That was my immediate thought when I saw the results. The swamp allowed him the big win to push against Trump. It all seems so very clear to me.
He has not been protected against blowback. They are just smart enough to divide us and as usual we are dumb enough to fall for it.
I’m looking forward to DeSantis to keep FL great. Over the next 2 years, we will see who and what he espouses as re-elected Governor. Keep your eyes peeled.
BTW, IMO, I don’t think DeSantis will run for POTUS if DJT does. It’s the usual media, left-wing frenzy intent on making it a thing
DeS HAS to run now. He is term-limited out of FL guv in 2026. That leaves him with no bully pulpit before 2028. He will be out of sight, out of mind.
Don’t the Dems create ballots and fill them out when their candidate is running behind? Along with all their other shenanigans, of course.
New York seems to have developed a much more sophisticated method. They don’t fiddle with the counting: they just substitute their numbers for the real numbers, by county, to get the outcome they want. Cut and paste.
BINGO!
In tight elections with delayed counts the DemScum always wins
“… we can’t live in fantasy land.”
It’s hard adjusting to reality land when that reality is that one’s federal government is corrupt root and branch and beyond redemption. And sadly and most likely beyond defeat such that the country one loved is dead and gone … and probably has been for a long time. The smell of the rot wasn’t yet strong enough to smell.
Yes, TPTB corrupted our government and the electorate while we sat and watched. We Conservatives never expected that LGBTXYZ and transgender schemes were going to become an actual battleground. We foolishly assumed that rationalism would win the day. The Left is so far in the Danger Zone, and the indoctrinated kids know no better.
I am so angry that the “rebubs” let it get to this. THEY are the reason we are in this situation. Most of the “Repubs” we have in office are also in cahoots with the DNC.
Until something major happens, for better or worse, we will continue to be the ones with their boots on our necks.
They have the roles of available voters from Acorn census data and all their get out the vote sign up groups. In 2020 they weaponized that info with open mail in voting and drop boxes.
What they are doing is just what the Unions have done in the big cities for generations but now on a grand scale with less actual risk. the Unions had list of all reregistered union members names info and who did and didn’t vote. They would then send guys out with list to vote in multiple precincts under multiple names on the list. Its why Dems were so hard on no Photo ID requirements. Now with mail in voting and drop boxes they run the same scam but can do so on a level that is just insane.
Repubs going into the ballot business is not a viable plan. 1. the organization and money required will just make the special interest the gate keepers of that power, 2. once they orgs get the power to bring guaranteed percentages to a candidate in modern politicks they will never allow a candidate to slip through that will threaten that power.
Really sad state of affairs. We lost our nation with Trump he was our best chance to get our nation back but he obviously wasn’t hardcore enough to pull it off and got rip rolled. The establishment saw the threat tho and the after effect was they enshrined their control so as to make sure no such anomaly can happen again.
I don’t really see a way out. Best option would be maybe concentrate on the areas we still control taking them back to day of paper ballots with photo ID voting. Maybe that could show an viable alternative, secure some free states to keep the insanity at bay, and maybe show the fraud that exist in those states. Florida I am sure has fraud also it is just limited to the old ratio levels that overwhelming popular candidates can still overcome (that limit is what Trump snuck in 16′ via). The mail in voting states add a ratio to that that is just insurmountable. hell AZ was tracking plus 10 in liberal polling yet if they let Lake get it with a point it will be a shock at this point. Sadly its looking more and more that the only real option is sit back and wait for things to get bad enough that enough people come to the point of nothing to lose and the whole thing implodes into a free for all. Fall of Rome horror stories.
I see days of reckoning ahead.
Senator Cotton is a real disappointment. I was never impressed.
He just said Turtle should stay on as leader.
Cotton is a loser.
From a “nothing is going to change anyway” perspective-it makes some sense. If the GOP was in control and had a few new kick ass voices, I think it may have been different. But who knows how these guys operate-other than self-interest, of course.
kinda where my head is at – why does it matter in the slightest if you will not rise up for your republic? he’s a very good people manager. If we have no intention of actually compelling our illegitimate government to do anything, just hasten the collapse and let these slimy slugs manage a few token bones thrown our way. its about as good as we’ll get, and we plan to accept it anyway.
what is a firebrand going to accomplish?
IMO, You’re starting to unravel into who you really are and why you are here. I see you. “Demure”= Coy. Showing a reluctance to make a definite commitment.
IT very much matters. McConnell spent his $$$ endorsing Murkowski, a Never-Trumper with TDS instead of financing MAGA republicans.
Cotton is synthetic.
Cotton is a threat to the fabric of society.
I’ll get my hat…
As an Arkansan, I can tell you with certainty that our whole federal delegation, House and Senate, is 100% R – UniParty.
We are stuck in the Bush/Bubba paradigm, which is why the overwhelming majority of Arkansans are Independents. We recognized the UniParty scam at least a decade ago.
Tom Cotton is a war pig. I don’t know how someone like that can get elected.
You misspelled “collaborator.”
Yes, Cotton is GOPe. Most of the so-called repubs are. It’s now obvious that the RNC and the DNC are in cahoots.
IT very much matters. McConnell spent his $$$ endorsing Murkowski, a Never-Trumper with TDS instead of financing MAGA republicans.
As I posted above I have been around a long time and I have good powers of observation.
Murkowski has been defeated in the primary TWICE — what many here think is the answer, i.e. winning primaries– and both times she refused to accept defeat.
Both times the GOP leaders backed her against the authenic winner of their primary. If that doesn’t tell you who they are, nothi g will.
The last time she ran as a write in candidate (Democrats have no chance in AK so they vote for her, a reliable vote for them when needed).
This time with ranked choice she is running as GOP and my guess is the Dems all ranked her second).
It is a rigged system and to keep playing is insane.
I have had my Treehouse
branch since 2015 and gloried in Trump’s win. But since then I have watched my fellow Treepers lose (2018) so then aiming at 2020, losing in 2020, so aiming at 2022 and now getting crushed in 2022 so now aiming at 2024.
What do ya’ll think will be different?
In my job ,I see hundreds of people every month, thousands probably in a year. I see republicans, democrats, felons,gang-bangers , unemployed wards of the state, veterans, wanna be truck drivers, trans, lesbians , gays and GOD knows what else shuffles thru the door. Until we get get free and honest elections if a “democrat”brings up politics, and they will, I intend to mock them, disrespect them, question their judgment, disparage their “president” and make fun of their politics and their intelligence. I will give give them no quarter. If an “official”from my state demands to see my license, I intend to demand to see their ID, ( that really annoys them!) Additionally, I will not travel to those states that allow fraudulent voting , I will check every purchase and refuse to buy anything from Michigan, Arizona,New York , Pennsylvania,Oregon, California or Washington State. Illinois and Colorado, NJ and any other democrat states. I will not spend a single penny in any state that allows fraud. I also intend to laugh at and turn my back on this “president” and anyone associated with him. That includes YOU ,”Cocaine Mitch”. After the last two stolen elections, I’m done being civil with these people. Come what May, I will never take a knee to them nor will I show them any respect. And I will support PRESIDENT Donald J Trump right to the end! So help me GOD!
ALL states allow fraud. Check out one of Dr. Douglas Frank’s presentations on Rumble. He’s been to 45 states and has yet to find one that does not have corrupt elections.
Never heard of him and couldn’t care less
Color me confused. I was just pointing out that there is fraud in all states. (thus “not spending a penny”will have to be in all states). I AGREE with your righteous anger AND supporting President Trump 100%!
I like the cut of your jib.
Lol! And I mean every word
Cheers! This loyal PDJT supporting Canadian approves your message.😉
I’m a programmer. Yes you can build in a weighting factor or any other method for altering the vote tabulation, but the software is supposed to be reviewed, and any reasonable programmer would be able to spot the bad code.
I would say any complaint like this that tabulation software alters votes is useless unless some code is presented. And I never see anyone doing that.
Dems have other ways of cheating. They can fabricate ballots, change ballots, etc. They don’t even need fraudulent voting tabulation.
WE THE PEOPLE need TRUMP to win in 2024 so he he can purge the Criminal Class of Elites from their positions of power in Our Constitutional Republic.
Then in 2028 DeSantis can come in and spend the next 8yrs making sure the Criminal Elites don’t make a comeback.
Splitters and Quitters are not gitters, as in git ur done. They accomplish little or nothing.
TRUMP 2024
DeSantis 2028
MAGA and keep it that way.
you need to consider the trillions against you
And just like that, we have communism.
Workers of the US, unite!
It was not “just like that”…it was incremental. Until Trump came along, we were supposed to choose between Trotsky and Lenin. Capitalism was never in the mix. Trump came along and upended their apple cart. They picked up the apples in 2020, and in 2022, Trotsky got a figurative icepick to the eye. The Reds are in charge now. A kinder, gentler crew but just as dedicated to total control. History repeats
History does not repeat really. Actions from fallen humans do repeat themselves.
I agree it has been somewhat gradual.
Here’s what is next from my prior experience:
-gradual disappears of decent good s and food stuff like, first meat, then dairy and lastly basic thigs like rice, flour, etc, to preserve the environment
-the “leaders” will have access to whatever they want
-limited movement via persona cars. Government public transport for the paupers, to preserve the environment
-no free speech
-arrest of opposition continues, first the leaders then any followers
-limited new building permits to preserve the environment
-education directed to the needs of the government-free education with the government directs where you work, now to preserve the environment
-limited travel, to preserve the environment
-preset election, just as up to now, except 2016
-carbon credits for all: rationed electricity, gas, oil gasoline, and so on.
-a supreme leader, a beloved son of the nation, world, whatever.
Now prepare to worship the creature or unite for the good of the world.
In short the USSR just like I said. History repeats because history is the story of man and we keep making the same choices
I entirely agree with sundance, it’s absolutely the ballots that are the problem.
But, how do the ballots get made into the problem? They aren’t just popped into a pile somewhere.
They get curated into the problem by feeding them through programmed machines to make them into a problem. The machines are used to steal every possible vote through a myriad of methods and probably some not even listed here – this is off the top of my head.
If a voter on the rolls is dead or no longer in the locality, an unused ballot for them gets assigned to them anyway. That’s a nice front-in batch before game day.
If more votes are needed on game day, people who are known as unlikely to vote are selected and ballots are assigned to them; and if they happen to show up, they get turned away.
Also, as we just saw in AZ, game day ballots can be intentionally destroyed and then reprinted for reassignment to even more ghost voters and bogus “registrations” that work out to 150 people at some parking lot address. Fake registrations are useful before and after game day.
If that doesn’t equal enough ballots turned into votes, during the big post-game day “counting,” extra ballots are printed and fed through as provisional votes that can be conveniently wiped from the system the next time the software pirates show up to fix and illegally delete the results of the election. (And here is where you get the really big clandestine containers of ballots. It’s also where you get 1100 voters in a New Hampshire town where there are only 800 voters.)
Yes, mail-in ballots need to be fought out at the Supreme Court level.
But the full evidence of the completion of the fraud achieved through the machines needs to be a part of that effort or it may fail again – never mind the bogus “standing” issue.
Presumably we have had more lawyers this time ready for challenges, and plenty more citizen observers.
What AZ went through with perfect (as PDJT would say) forensic audits that were blocked has to happen everywhere. It’s that long slow grind that Bannon talks about.
And it’s the only way.
We shall see. Gentlemen, start your engines…
Whoever the next Republican president is, no matter who they are, has to destroy the FBI, CIA, and DOJ while salting the earth behind them.
I have a bridge on the Moon I can sell you if you think Deep State DeSantis will ever make a single move against the Establishment which threatens his Deep State financiers. He’s Bush Part III.
Or are we going to let Fox News dictate who we are allowed to nominate in 2024?
What makes anyone think there’ll ever be any uncontrolled conservative in the WH again? The system just took out one of the best conservative governors to appear in a long time. Not a chance Kari Lake didn’t double that moron’s totals. If the steal in 2020 didn’t convince people that pumping ballots into races that are manipulated by tabulation machines, theyll never see that puppets are appointed for key offices.
Why not let another corporate controlled rino into office in 2024?
(“….pushing DeSantis into the war against the administrative state is akin to throwing a decent general into a lost war.”)
After all, what will be left of this country by 2024? Anything? Then the total destruction can be blamed on the right, if there is a need for blame casting.
The uniparty will be the uniparty, will be the uniparty, will be the uniparty, no matter what.
The fourth branch and the globalist/international corporations are in charge of the uniparty. What do they care which letter is behind their name?
Watching this republic being destroyed.
It’s a lot like watching a forest fire burn down thousands of acres and being powerless to stop it.
You can predict the end results, acre upon acre of destruction. Majesty and beauty destroyed.
Nothing will be left but ashes, soot, smoke, and those destined to wander aimlessly in the aftermath.
What is destroyed in hours will take decades to replace.
Misery, destruction, pain, suffering and DEATH are the calling cards of the democrat party.
Fwiw, I liken the departure from the Constitution on election process (among many other things) to what is happens in churches that are liberal. They didn’t start that way. There were little compromises, which over time became more and more, bigger and bigger, all in the name of “Love”, yet at the expense of the Truth. Sort of like a hole develops in the hull of a ship, but no one bothers to patch it, and before you know it, many other holes develop to the point where you can’t patch them all and must “pick your battles”. Intentional or not, the GOPe ignored such a Constitutional departure on election process, which is supposed to be an election day. The Scotus punted, especially on the clear-cut case out of PA where the State Legislature ‘s authority over elections was usurped by the Governor. Point is, now the ship is going down, all because we weren’t vigilant in always abiding by the Constitution and/or contending for it when it isn’t being abided by. For sure, this started happening almost immediately after the Constitution was ratified, one of the biggies being in 1913.
And here we thought we finally had a truly conservative Supreme Court that would abide by the Constitution.
who we
Say if DeSantis makes it to the nomination, and he is actually elected president that should worry one even more as that would mean he had the blessing of whichever entities select politicians for the US.
Not sure how to fix this other than rebuilding the system or finding some way to install a backbone into some of the population. Whomever globalist is control of the US elections won’t let go of their power willingly, probably not without dragging half of the world with it anyway.
There’s always the optimistic scenario that enough people resist and grow a backbone and some moral integrity and choose to live and respect the Constitution.. But based on humanity’s history so far.. That is a long shot. Whatever is in control now is a long way from God.
If DeSanctimonious is actually selected to be potus by tptb, people will literally be able to see the puppet-strings making him dance, wiggle, jiggle and jive to and fro.
People have become like puppies and kittens that like the shinny thing. Put a pen Lazer to work on the floor or wall and watch the antics.
The Trump DeSantis thing is a metaphor, sorta. It displays what the dump…er swamp does with the media, and watch the antics.
America has become like the nice neighborhood that turns to crap when one belligerent family moves in and don’t cut the grass, parks junkers in the front yard and turns the house into a garbage dump. Their behavior doesn’t just affect them, it affects everyone around them. So how do you sell a house where the property values plumet after this group of entitled pigs move in? This is where we are. How does the neighborhood recover?
But they will let Ron DeStablishment win, he is one of them. Besides, it’s our turn to win again.
Why is it our turn to win ? Smucky Schemer says that Americans heartily approve their agenda.
When in doubt, this is a good lesson right here.
Mr. Knowles nailed it, but so many fly-by-nighter supporters quickly forget. I think most Americans have major character flaws and plain dumb.
wow thank you sundance for sharing this wonderful article by david solway. I so agree! I agree ,I agree! Desantis, Youngkin, and yoyo Sununu are strutting around right now, but they cant win PA!! or MI, or NV, or AZ, or GA, even with money from mcconnell and the rnc, and great message and great campaigns. and they will lose in 2024, unless the Dem steal is corrected and stopped. It is perfectly absurd to blame Trump or Oz or Masters or Bolduc or the other America First candidates for the 2022 election fraud of dem machines in the big cities such as philadelphia, detroit, atlanta. and this in my opinion needs to be the focus of our new house of reps in washington. stop the steal! bravo election deniers
There is no reason to believe that DeSantis (as President) would go to war against the FBI, CIA, State Department, etc. I would support him if I thought he would.
It’s time for VSG to announce on Tuesday that he is running in 2024 AND also announce a new party.
The time has come.
Let’s say you end up with a new, legitimate party… you still have a ballot problem.
Your Election Machinery needs to neutralize and surpass that of the Democrats.
Trump is the only one who fights.
Where were GOP observers and lawyers?
For the third election in a row.
They control that right now, not him.
Just stop and think for a minute:
1) We are going to lose in 2024 regardless due to ballots
2) It would end DeSantis’ 2024 ambitions – may even make him come across to the new party.
3) It would end the power that the Macs have, Ryan, Rove, Murkowski, Romney, Collins, and on and on and on
4) It would send the media into a total frenzy
5) It would expose GOP ineptness (polite term)
6) Any existing incumbent in the GOP who is MAGA could come over whenever they want – and they would – much quicker than most could imagine.
7) The new party would have control over it’s primaries – ie. set fresh rules across the board ie. no open voting allowing Dems to manipulate
8) Gone would be the manipulation by Turtle and co. over funding the wrong candidates eg. Blake Masters v reptilian Murkowski.
9) Truth Social/TMTG are going to be yuuuge, and are already growing fast.
10) You would end up with a fresh new party, a decrepit old GOP that would be irrelevant, and the corrupt Dems who will overstep in due course and will be found out.
Doesn’t mean the new MAGA party would win in 2024 – but right now from where I am standing there is no chance the GOP are ever winning a general election again unless a lot of things change.
What is there to lose?
Perfectly stated.
The first step is to fire the Repub pols and the only way to do that is for the base and MAGA candidates to move out of the GOP House.
Trump, Bolduc, Masters, Lake, Tshibaka, Palin, Kent, Dixon et al all have name recognition. They already know there is no place for them on the right wing of the Uniparty.
This would not be a new party per se, it would be a divorce.
Do it Donald!
Announce on 1/2/23 that the American Party is now open for business and start collecting signatures in every state in the union.
We MAGA can then show our bonafides by withdrawing from GOP and registering with new party.
I love it, yy4u!
Well.. when you think about it, this would be a brilliant move on President Trump’s part, wouldn’t it? If hundreds of millions change their affiliation to his new party, then how could the election thieves explain their votes not agreeing with their new party affiliation?
They can hardly pretend that a democrat or republican won the election, if the overwhelming majority of voters have already registered in the new “Trump” party. I mean, why bother changing your affiliation if you plan to vote the same old way?
It is impossible for them to explain away the fraud then.
Dazza like me is a Canadian President Trump loyalist.
I agree…we all know the definition of insanity. Surely decent Americans watching the farce of your elections have had enough.
Cheers!
Thank you, Dekester, and yes I am!
What happens to our MAGA candidates who won?
For me, PDJT, announcing his run for POTUS in 2024 seems obvious and anti-climatic. If we are all certain that RDS is going to run for president in 2024 then him telling us comes as no surprise. Trump saying the words will not knock me off of my feet with shock. I hope that it is something more stunning than that because these demons need something that will make them shake with fear. They already know he’s running and probably have all of their hate-filled talking points ready to go.
He need to rattle them deep down in their demonic souls.
The only good thing about Trump running as a 3rd party is that it makes it impossible for him to be primaried.
But it opens the door for DeSantis to run as a Republican. The conservative vote will be split and the Dem candidate, even if it’s Biden, will win.
Possibly, but are you just going to put up with this b.s. every election cycle now?
It will only get worse and will be expanded to State Legislature races, etc.
I think the GOP are just total wusses. Trump would have lawyers right in there causing all sorts of problems for Dems.
Republicans are too soft, and have no fight.
Also easily bought off, by all accounts.
Oh no. Dems will win? Wait. Isn’t that what happened in 2018, 2020, 2022. That dog won’t hunt anymore.
I feel as if our candidates AND POTUS45 in his speeches have not well-defined out adversaries.
We have to change the paradigm of speaking in terms of democrats v. republicans, progs and libs . conservatives.
Yes, we have a uniparty (most folks don’t even KNOW THAT) but I think maga candidates have to start educating the public—it’s foreces outside our nation (the WEF + many organizations that want our tax dollars) , it’s those within our nation, American oligarchs–NAME THEM–and foreign oligarchs who wish to steal out money in the US Treasury while at the same time seeing to it cheap labor floods into our nation, it’s these grifters and cons that WANT WAR because war means they can launder MONEY and INFLUENCE that comes back to them in scores of ways
None of them are any better than hustlers you find every day on the streets of our urban centers except their cheating takes billions from us, all with the votes and authories of our elected officials who, in turn, get “thanked” by illegal and legal donations come election time and some, like Biden, who make extre millions by selling their offices.
All this MUST BE SAID. HEll Donald, NAME NAMES.
Our government WRIT LARGE is one big MAW, with thousands using our tax dollars for their own GRIFT.
Yes. We get enough of Biden and Company’s fantasy world on a daily basis. I would also like to hear more direct language.
H e l l, I would like to see Trump read or make a video based on Sundance’s defining blogs on the Uniparty where he asks “Why do people spend millions to obtain a job with the salary of a Senator or Congressman ?” “How do they leave DC with way more money than they came in with ?”. etc.
Maybe now that we have made it (mostly) through election season and Team RINO has already thrown some daggers at PDJT’s back he will start naming names and going scorched earth on them.
He gave them 2 elections (2020 and 2022) to do right by MAGA and they shivved him twice. I pray that he begins the release of the evidence of their misdeeds.
Sounds like the mantra now is moving from vote harder to cheat harder. I will not partake. Selling my soul is not worth it. And as long as evil counts the votes by corrupted electronics, evil wins.
Fix the problem, don’t become a crook.
Even worse then the ballot harvesting is the leadership actively sabotaging its base.
To me that’s the most infuriating then the Dems. Dems are just being Dems it’s how they roll but people like McConnell have to go.
we maga types do not require ballot harvesting
we are ready to vote again the day after
Perhaps “ballot harvesting” is the new shiny penny
given to us to focus on when the real issue is the
republican party’s stamp of approval on election fraud.
We haven’t fixed what’s happened in the last 2 elections. I’m not jumping into a rumble about Trump vs. DeSantis and let the MSM, Hollywood, big tech, Nancy, Chuck and so many others laugh their axes off while we wrestle in the mud. Nope not doing it.
The covid emergency has been extended til May 2023. It ain’t ever gonna end, IMHO.
Praise the Lord!
In the race for the House, the Reps just picked up 1 and are now at 212, while the Dems stayed at 204.
(per Fox Online with 218 needed for majority)
Yes in the remaining races they say GOP leads (narrowly) in 9 of them and
we need to win 6 to get the majority.. 19 races yet to be called in CA, NY CO AZ
Are there enough votes to be harvested on the Republican side?
In Pennsylvania, 900,000 more GOP voters voted from Trump in 2020 than voted for Oz last week. If a fourth of those GOP voters could have turned out for Oz, he would have won. Midterms have lower participation than general elections so an opportunity exists.
Quoting the Pennsylvania election numbers is a fool’s errand.
Plugged numbers are fake…….. they should be investigated, not quoted.
This strategy relies on several very tenuous, if not improbable premises:
1. That Democrat election operators and Recorders are operating within the law, as opposed to bending if not outright breaking the law. Like adjudicating Republican ballots for Democrats, or flat out injecting ballots.
2. Clean voter rolls in sketchy swing states. With inflated/dirty rolls, once outer ballot envelopes are removed, there’s no way to prove whether the ballots being counted where received by an actual voter or injected into the count after the fact. Granted a count comparing envelopes to ballots would reveal that discrepancy, however, as seen in 2020 (and I’m sure we’ll discover quite shortly in 2022) – contrary to federal law, those envelopes were destroyed right quick. Additionally, those phantom ballots could actually be sent out to effect an audit trail, even if they join several hundred others sent to the same address.
3. There are enough Republican or even plausibly Republican ballots outstanding to be harvested. Put differently, many Republicans vote in-person on Election day.
That said, we still have to try. And it may require bending the law, but not breaking it, in order to fix it.
In tight elections with delayed counts the DemScum always wins
Always, Al freakenfraken
“The main issue is ballot harvesting [legal gathering] and no-excuse universal mail in ballots. Republicans need to spend big cultivating harvesting operations in key districts across the country where it’s legal until they have enough power to outlaw it, along with no-excuse mail ins.”
Until we engage in their same technique, we will never win.
In fact, if we don’t do it immediately for the 2024 election, we won’t ever win because we’ll never have another Trump.
Sundance knows how to pivot. Most people don’t. Look at the comments. Most people are still talking about past elections, past everything. Too interested in pridefully displaying their knowledge of the things that were, that have been. Living in the past.
Sundance has pivoted. He recognized the ballot v vote scenario and the vote (us) is losing.
People aren’t pivoting.
And by the time they do, pathetically, it will be too late.
The Republican nominee in 2024, irregardless of who it is, will be nothing more than cannon fodder for the UniParty. And voting will be pointless.
Crossover voting in the primary’s hurts Republicans also.
How does Trump think he could possibly win with all these voting hurdles.
He can’t. And neither can DeSantis or any other Repub which is why we need to bite the bullet, accept reality and start a new MAGA party.
It’s the machines AND the ballots, and the counters and collectors of the ballots and the legislatures that BUY the machines, people. IT’s all those things, and I am sure, MORE.
Don’t you see: IT’S WHATEVER THEY NEED AT THE TIME, WHATEVER THEY NEED AND CAN USE.
So, you can identify all kinds of methods of voting that are vulnerable but the bastards will find another way until we go simple again: all counties divided into small precincts so that when the votes are tallied, every vote and voters can be quickly identified as to precinct.
All paper ballots and voting at a precinct after providing a PICTURE ID and proof of residence matching what is on the voter roll. No drop boxes, no absentee ballots except for military and nursing home residents or people with long-term medical conditions.
Still, I accept that cheaters will find ways to cheat. All we can do here is minimize the cheating by going to a simple process.
Still, you have cheaters in the cars and trucks that transport ballots, those filled out and those not filled out. They must be vetted and sign that the penalty is high for any monkey business.
But UNTIL SOME CHEATERS ARE CAUGHT AND MADE EXAMPLES OF, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Save the GOP?
Are you f-ing kidding me?
Nixon started the administrative state (EPA, OSHA, etc)
The village idiot started the deep state (Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, perpetual wars, etc)
No sir, the GOP needs to be ground into mulch under OUR jack boots for a change.
^^^^THIS!^^^^
“The presumption within the article is that DeSantis is not a participating member of the corporate control system, which, despite the eloquence of the article word assembly, I am not quite willing to accept;”
Spot on Sundance.
I absolutely refuse to accept that presumption. I refuse to go back to being a battered conservative. The subversion and control of our elections is not by the Democrats – it is by the Uniparty
I’ve been talking myself blue in the face since Mar-a-Lago trying to get even the strongest patriots and loyal Trump supporters I know to understand the point you make here.
Only Trump has gone through the fires and then run back in again to save America. All else, de Santis included, is smoke and mirrors from Liberty’s mortal enemies.
We aren’t at the Constitution. We are at the Declaration. All that really remains is how long people will tolerate the abuses of their government before they decided they’ve had enough.
This honestly is nothing new. This is the way of all of history and governing. Power once obtained is not relinquished voluntarily. I don’t know what will happen in my lifetime, but I really do grieve for my children now in their 30’s who will likely be on the receiving end of a a struggle for power. Selfishly, I hope I’m not here to see it. It’s just too painful.
The problem with this is Republicans cannot win by playing by Democrat rules. “Ballot harvesting” is just a nice term for industrial scale voter fraud. If the Republicans were to attempt anything like this level of fraud the FBI would be all over them in a second and a lot of Republicans would be going to prison. Just look what happened on J6 when Republicans exercised their right to peacefully protest.
The Democrats are successful because not only are they willing to cheat – the FBI and other agencies let them cheat.
Agree-it’s not just the harvesting operation. It is control of the entire election machinery from voter rolls, registration, systems, injection massive amounts of ballots into the system and counting. No amount of a parallel system could cover the contingencies even that approach was a sensible alternative. It has to be cleaned up in the States. We have a purposeful handful+ of (key) States that are operating like this so that the overall outcomes can be controlled.
BigCheese, I have heard some items are being confiscated by customs, are you aware of any recent occurrences?
Thanks.
Sundance highlights DeSantis’s swampy behavior and I didn’t want to accept it at first but the facts convinced me.
DeSantis betrayed Trump by allowing the raid on Mar-a-lago.
But sure… now it’s a shiny thing…
Desantis couldn’t of stopped the raid but he could of spoken out bout it more, and he could of refused the agenda, and the millions in donations from the globalists.
He stopped the Feds from interfering in the elections in his state, but he could barely mention a word when they raided a former President’s residence in his own state.
that was a photo op, nothing more
If the feds really wanted to “interfere”, they would have done so.
They don’t mind loosing to controlled opposition. It keeps their own powers in play and it would never upset the apple cart. If you don’t see that as the eventual way they plan to placate the masses then you haven’t been paying attention. They need another Bush and Ron is just another Bush.
I disagree that the DeSantis issue should be pushed off til later. The time to address it is NOW, before he announces. Because once he announces the full PR push will occur (if you think it’s bad now it’s about to get a whole lot worse) and
Right now Trump has few avenues of communication to the public, most people don’t have a Truth Social account so can’t see his communications there, and most of the media including our former friends are now aggressively attacking him. THEY WILL MAKE TRUMP IRRELEVANT. He will not have a voice and fake poll after fake poll will “prove” that voters prefer DeSantis.
It’s very important for us to take a stand against DeSantis NOW. We need to tell his puppeteers that we will not vote for DeSantis if he’s a candidate for the 2024 race. He needs our votes. If we can stop DeSantis from being a candidate that will help immensely to prevent Trump from being thoroughly trashed by everyone to the point where he isn’t even viable.
As for ballots, absolutely work on that problem but the continual b*tching isn’t going to do anything. We have to oust the Dems, they are the ones who are cheating and rigging the system. Dems are the ones who are opposed to voter ID. Dems are the ones who want the voting age to be decreased and who want illegals to be able to vote. Even the RINOs aren’t proposing these things.
Florida Republicans should be doing everything they can to get DeSantis back onto the straight and narrow. And if not, Florida Republicans MUST ensure he gets as close to ZERO Florida votes in the primary.
I am so angry and depressed about the outcome of several key mid-term election outcomes during our current “ election season”. And the counting is still not done. What a mess!
But I look forward to President Trump’s “ announcement” on Nov 15. Seems like everyone thinks he will announce he’s running again for President in 2024.
But here is what I posit:
What if he will instead announce one of these:
1. President Trump announces he will run for Speaker of the House(assuming) the R’s get that majority).
or
2. President Trump announces he is forming a third political party- the MAGA Party, of course.
Just my musings for a Sunday evening. God bless all Treepers here, Menagerie, adrems, and especially Sundance.
He doesn’t have enough strong allies in the House to make him Speaker.
Trump running as a 3rd party candidate will split the conservative vote and ensure that a Dem wins in 2024.
He’d better just run as a Republican. And WE need to tell DeSantis’ puppeteers ASAP that we will not vote for him. DeSantis needs our votes, and we need to make sure his puppeteers know we’re not going to let him have them.
I don’t think the actual Democrat vote power is as strong as you think. In some places, sure. But they have had to cheat harder and harder each time. The whole world sees it.
The outcomes were determined before the election. The output of voters made it VERY hard to manufacture enough ballots. Kari Lake will still be Governor and she will investigate and find enough cause to do the election for US Senate over again. And that will be that.
This is what I was fantasizing. If Trump is a smart man he should not run in 2024 at all.
Trump should nt endorse any candidate as that is supposedly toxic… Ofcourse Desantis loses when MAGA voters don’t vote like they did in the past 2 cycles.
The Deep State continues to rule… However the GOP as a political entity gets destroyed. A genuine opposition party to the Dims either arises or the US officially becomes a one party state like China …
How does destroying the GOP party bring about anything helpful? It just ensures Dems in control again in 2024.
I know it may seem irrational but I have said it before the GOP needs to be destroyed. I have been a Republican all my life sometimes voting enthusiastically and other times holding my nose. I did not vote for GWB in 2000 because I really disliked him and now I despise him.
My rational is I want to do it for my grandsons, it might be to late for my own children. Things have to change and I am willing to suffer if life will be better for them. I say it will take over 25 years but we have to try because continuing to support the GOP is insane.
The GOP destroyed the Teaparty and now they are trying to destroy MAGA, I say lets destroy them. Maybe it is being selfish to try and make it better for my family but the next generations deserve better than what UniParty is offering.
I agree !!!! The GOP is trying to destroy us (MAGA)
Let’s turn it around and destroy them instead.
the uniparty is in control
You can accomplish the same goal by having Trump run as a third Party candidate.
Is the picure doctored or is Desantis standing on a platform? He is only 5’9″. Maybe camera angle?
I read online that he is 6’0″
These threads seem to descend more and more into irrelevance the longer they go on. We have a short term and a long term problem. This isn’t rocket science.
Short Term: It really doesn’t matter whether Trump or DeSantis is the 24 nominee because barring fundamental change in the electoral process neither has a snowballs chance in you know what of being elected president in 2024. Our #1 priority must be to endeavor in every way possible to change the current system in every state we can to ensure an honest election. If we can’t get this done we are screwed. Nothing else matters at this point. I’m sure that there are readers here who have ideas on how to get this done. Please speak up.
Long Term: Once we accomplish the short term goals, we decide who is our Champion to go forth and dismantle the establishment beast, and Make America Great Again.
I disagree with your assessment that a GOP candidate can’t win in 2024. Two more years of Biden is going to make the economy even worse than it is now, and abortion won’t be a hot issue.
Pre election 74% of all Americans were fed up with the destruction of this country and look what happened again.
Abortion. The reversal of Roe was the #1 campaign issue of the Dems, and it was very effective.
On June 24, in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. […] On Tuesday, four and a half months after Dobbs, Republican candidates did surprisingly poorly in the midterms. The GOP lost crucial governorships, failed to capture the Senate, and—against the norm for parties out of power—made hardly any gains in the House.
Are these two events related? Did Dobbs torpedo the GOP? It certainly did. Here’s the evidence from voter surveys and the election results. […]
In VoteCast’s poll of the 2018 electorate, nearly 80 percent of Republicans said abortion was a factor in how they voted; only about 20 percent of Democrats said the same. This year, those numbers turned upside down, giving Democrats a four-to-one advantage on the issue.
https://www.thebulwark.com/the-data-have-spoken-abortion-was-a-decisive-issue-in-the-2022-midterms/
Well, I guess everyone got what they wanted to hear from that ruling by our Supreme Court!
Oh look! The Democraps pulled the football away and the Repugs fell on their heads trying to kick it away, again! Politics is played at a very low level, says I.
It wasn’t abortion it was cheating!
1,000 dittos!
If you know the entire system is corrupt, what’s the best way to highlight that?
Join the other team to blow the whole thing up.
President Trump should run as a Democrat.
Crazy? Yup, crazy like a fox.
It’s not the entire system but the Dems control enough key locations to elect the President and put themselves over the top in the Senate and possibly the house so complete control of elections is not required.
They cheat in all the “swing” states like PA, AZ, GA, MI, NV. That’s enough to insure they their keep power forever. Yes the Rinos are in on it too.
Yes, that’s how they did it. It’s actually smaller than each state. It’s down to a particular county or couple of counties in each state.
When you run the numbers, that’s how it was all gamed out.
People don’t believe there could be such widespread fraud to impact a national election. That’s how they are turned off and refuse to believe it. They say, “how could everyone be in on it?”
But when you run the numbers, and realize it comes down to a few important counties, you quickly realize it’s entirely possible with just a few well paid off fraudsters in a few counties.
And here’s your Proof,… the Marxist Dims have had more than 100%, much more, votes than registered voters in Swing Districts in targeted states for the past 20 years! And the GOPe has always looked the other way,… like good little Uniparty partners-n-crime.
Yes, I’m not allowed to post my thoughts about the majority of the GOP; I’d be banned.
In an election, the votes always go to the Republicans, but the ballots always toes to the Democrats! Wake up GOP, WAKE UP! They count ballots and the GOP will never win again! Oh they’ll throw a bone and give the Dog Catcher job to Republicans! GOP has to learn how to harvest ballots to ever have a chance in the future!
The Pa. GOP has to learn that the 2 counties that control how Pa. votes is #1: Philadelphia, and #2: Allegheny counties! Win those two and you control how Pa votes!!!
Seth Keschell has a great article on how in 13 states, there are enough votes concentrated in one or two urban blue counties, that ALL THE RED COUNTIES, at 100% turnout, can’t defeat those concentrated blue areas.
Each state needs a state “electoral college”, so that the votes of the red counties will count. Can be done state by state. And yearly cleaning of the voting rolls. Can be done by citizens, I did it online for Scott Walker years ago.
He couldn’t win in their system- super delegates.
Which may also be why he ran as a republican.
Bingo
Totally agree!
(Not trying to stir the pot) but, it is 2022 for God’s sake! If you can’t figure out how to take one of the dozens of forms of birth control, that in many cases is free, you’re a first class idiot. AND, if you do get pregnant, you sure as hell should know you either want to keep the child or not within a short period of time. No doubt, waiting well into the pregnancy to abort is murder. As a woman and the mother of two adult children, this whole “My body, my choice” is total BS. And why is the government even “in charge” of making this issue right or wrong? {off soapbox}
And you don’t think there is cheating and corruption going on, lol!
Please WAKE UP!!!
Abortion is a RED HERRING!!!
The SC put abortion back in the hands of the states—where it BELONGS!
DIMWIT LIBTARD women can go to CA, NY, IL, MA, etc. and kill all the babies they want!!!
You need to seriously do your homework—you can’t see the trees through the forest!
Well said. Don’t get why ppl can’t see what’s going on right in front of their face!
Gads, you still think votes decide elections???? Ballots printed and counted decide. Most elections are close in votes, the winner is decided by which candidate has the most ballots arrive for counting.
Yet, Governors who signed laws that banned or restricted abortion won reelection.
frogtongue must respectfully disagree. abortion played little role in determining the success of these midterms. by and large, issues simply didn’t enter into the debate . . . and the scant number of debates such as they were, had no bearing . . . but, isn’t this SD’s very point?
Fake ballots and other shenanigans like with machines played a role in determining the
few midterm successes.
Issues didn’t decide the election. Mechanics did.
Not elections but enough to maintain control
Show may solid evidence that this is what moved any reasonable amount of votes from R to D. I promise you the pro abortion crowd was voting Dem already. Let’s stop pretending rigged machines and cheating isn’t the reason why Republicans are losing races they should be winning.
Who says it has to move votes? Why do you people need to believe that abortion didn’t motivate the Democratic base? An off year elections, “getting out the vote” is always the key factor.
It’s easier and intellectually lazy to believe that cheating is all that matters. Sure, that was a factor to but if you don’t think abortion motivates the left to vote, you’re kidding yourself.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/breaking-exclusive-election-poll-pads-caught-adding-hundreds-voters-real-time-texas-poll-closed-video/
Yes, the pro abortion crowd was voting Dem already. The question is, in what numbers were they voting? I suggest that college students and those having student loans to pay off through about 35 years of age tend more to be pro-abortion, but have not typically voted in the numbers we have been seeing in this election. They chose to vote in greater numbers because they liked the idea of having Joe Biden give them $10k to $20k in debt forgiveness.
That is not to say that there was no cheating. There was, and it was widespread. If more states were to adopt the Florida voting laws, requiring voter identification and limiting mail-in ballot distribution (as distinguished from absentee ballots specifically requested in advance with two forms of identification), the cheating and fraud could be reduced considerably.
Admittedly, that alone may not prevent the Philadelphia-style hardcore voting fraud with fake, unfolded and pre-printed ballots delivered in the dead of night, producing 120% registered voting turnout numbers which elect candidates like Fetterman.
THAT has been THEIR narrative. Do not believe it.
That was just a smokescreen.
For Democrats. Do you think many Republicans voted Democrat because of the reversal? I can’t imagine that.
only because The Republican party allowed it to be an issue. They had amole opportunity to educate the country about the illegality of Roe from its inception and place the responsibility for abortion directly on the people in each state. Abortion is not illegal but the responsibility for it whether early or late is something the people in each state should decide and live with.
No, it wasn’t.
It provided cover for the fraud.
The problem with the Saletan claim that “the Supreme Court abolished the right to abortion” is that there never was any such right.
7 Justices cannot amend the Constitution, not in 1973 and not now. The 1973 outrageous claim of a “constitutional right to abortion” was like dry gangrene in the constitutional system, and we are well rid of it.
Roe, and Dobbs, have nothing to do with the right of the people, through their representatives, to legislate on this matter.
Same with Obergefelle… The SCs ruling was a RULING on a case that came through various court levels, NOT A LAW. Therefore, the ruling applied ONLY to the parties to that case… Plaintiffs and defendants, AND NO ONE ELSE.
Justice Kennedy pulled the wool over everybody’s eyes, and poof, a restricted ruling sunndenly became a NEW LAW! And NOT EVEN ONE STATE AG stood up to confirm that such restricted interpretation. Cowards one and all.
Abortion did not change votes … pro-baby slaughterers only vote RAT.
Ballot harvesting, mail-in drop boxes, pre-programmed voting machines, malfunctioning voter machines, a voting month vs Election Day and no-required ID … were VERY effective in yet Another stolen election!!!
I have to assume that a large percentage of the 74% of all Americans had different ideas about what they are fed up about. Brainwashed people cannot be counted without asking who is the cause of the destruction. It was a stupid question that pollsters like to ask so media companies will have more numbers to post as factoids. People love to spout about useless factoids at the dinner table, a win-win situation for pollsters, who like to make money for their tireless efforts, indeed.
It just depends on who THEY agree upon to be the next President
We already know it’s not Trump. By the time 24 comes around THEY will have probably have looted and pillaged all that they will be able to and will have to build up the coffers again. At least they’ll need to be able to buy more paper to print the money. That is if U.S. being around in 24 is part of THEIR end game.
exactly.
Here’s what happened….Trump endorsements won, 216-19
Praise the Lord for that
A WHOLE LOT MORE bald-faced insultingly Blatant Fraud!
And an INSIGNIFICANT rebuttal to it.
As long as the Rebuttal is NOT Sufficient to stop the Fraud, It is for all intents and purposes INSIGNIFICANT.
Nobody is working on that Harder than Trump and His Strong Supporters, but this is mighty hefty tonnage for them to slug away at without any more VISIBLE support from the Super Majority.
I pray that God Himself will set FIRES to the butts of the “Conservative Couch Potatoes”!!!!
The first two years of the Biden administration already did that. The Repugs actually won the nationwide popular vote. They lost in the critical, so called swing States where the Ballot Harvesting scheme was not shut down. We did not win any of those States.
The problem is real and the Democrats will never see that they are the ‘useful idiots’ the Bolsheviks laughed about after securing themselves at the helm of the Russian Government. All the Democrats want is to be the winning team. This unholy alliance with the far more radical Communists is going to insure that they will never give up on Ballot Harvesting(by whatever silly name they call it) as long as it exists in those States. The only way we can end it is to defeat them at the Legislative level of these States. Better minds than mine will have to be used to make this ever happen.
But I do know that MAGA and the Repugs are already connected at the hip and only a miracle of death defying surgery can ever separate them. It was Trump who adopted the Repugs as his Party. It was the Repugs that got in bed with the ‘useful idiot’ Democrats so they could compete financially with them. The problem is just as lethal to both groups, so pretty soon it may be advisable for MAGA to bury the hatchet with the Repugs by finding ways for both groups to make a few concessions to each other. Since no effort has been made to do that so far, I believe that neither MAGA or the Repugs will be able to survive any separation surgery.
That is a poor analogy, but hopefully it makes sense to everyone who knows we are in a predicament. That means Donald Trump and the Repug leadership will have to find a way to identify the Communist political enemy they face and work together instead of staking claims to each other’s constituent group. We are either all a part of the opposition or we will all become subjects of Globalist Communism. Soon brothers and sisters, we should move the needle to a place we can all live with.
MAGA vs the Uniparty (dems and repugs).
They can’t win because DEMS CHEAT!
I disagree with your disagreement; it doesn’t matter how bad the candidate or economy is in 2024. The Dems will overcome the deficit like they did in 2020.
The Dems will get rid of Biden before 2024 and run with Newsome or some other Young Pretty Face. Then their chant will be…Young Pretty Face will fix all the mistakes that Bumbles made. We stay on same track but things will be so much better with Young Pretty Face. So when the election is stolen the mantra will be …new Dem leadership won! We must figure out how to stop the Stealing.
Abortion, social security and the economy will always be a hot issue. The democrats will always bring it it.
But if the machines are rigged, it won’t matter
Perhaps the machines are not rigged, but hacked to get the totals in key/swing districts to know how much harvesting to do. If you harvest too much and generate a +20 win in a +/-2 race, it would be obvious. Need to know how much you can harvest!
When the GOPe spends millions trying to stop MAGA candidates in primaries, then turns around and gives them no money, poor pollsters and advisors hand-picked by the GOPe so they lose, ballot harvesting/vote switching is a distant issue.
Exactly correct. After all the people connecting the election machine being silenced. Until it’s fixed, fixed meaning. No mail in Ballots no connection to the internet and complete transparency the dems will win
I propose that you have entirely ignored that ‘gorilla’. Please wake up to the FACT that Sundance makes in his assessment. If the GOP does not employ the identical methods put into place by the Dems in order to get into the position of enough power to return the ‘system’ to One Person, One Vote, with authentic I.D., then the results will not change… short of a war within… and (for that) the strengths and tools are already in place by ‘the other side’. It is little matter that things will get worse. Prepare for it.
Disagree, I’m afraid. Two more years of Biden won’t matter when it comes to the steal. Once perfected, the cheat will be repeated every election and no Conservative will ever win nationally again.
You fail to understand the mechanism.
No Republican can obtain 270 Electoral Votes.
Why is this not understood? For 2 years I’ve outlined here and in other forums exactly what was written in the article above.
Here it is in plain terms. This should prevent any further lack of understanding.
To become President a Candidate MUST acquire 270 Electoral Votes or More.
A candidate CAN acquire an Electoral TIE at 269-269, whereupon the United States Congress casts the tie breaking vote. I believe the sitting VP does this as President of the Senate.
The Left has PERMANENTLY REMOVED THESE STATES FROM ELECTORAL COMPETITION:
California.
Oregon
Washington
Colorado
New Mexico
Minnesota
Illinois
Wisconsin
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Virginia
New Hampshire
Washington DC
Based on Outcomes of this installation, these states are in jeopardy of being IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM ELECTORAL CONTENTION:
Arizona
North Carolina
Georgia
Nevada (arguable already gone)
This, in mathematical terms, means that NO REPUBLICAN CAN OBTAIN 270 Electoral Votes.
It is mathematically impossible without a major paradigm shift where the entirety of the Sitting Government is displaced.
The reason is because after the 2018 Trial Run, the Nation CEASED TO HOLD ELECTIONS.
We now hold Installations. The Key Counties, all occupied territory and reinforced by limitless ballots prevent 2016 from EVER HAPPENING AGAIN, under this system of Government.
Those saying “2 more years of left wing, Biden, etc will cause the shift, UTTERLY FAIL to SEE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES.
2016 was the last lawful election. 2018 was a trial run for 2020. 2022 is a continuation of 2020. 2024 will see a new “Blue” leader installed with another BLUE House and BLUE Senate.
Those “GOPe” R’s who aided, abetted, and materially participated will now begin to be swept off of the electoral map.
Greater and greater Leftist majorities will overwhelm Federal, and State Governments.
Anyone that didn’t understand this, was either willfully ignorant, complicit, or trusted in the WRONG person(s) information.
Just go back and look at the facts. Use the past to pain the picture of the future.
Yes, this is all true. No it will not continue. It will result in, I don’t know how long, a revolt, a revolution, and a total devastation of the United States of America.
Prepare for regional/territorial government.
If I’m diluted, or wrong, or whatever, laugh over my grave, I’m almost there now. But a great many now know I am not wrong. More will. I hope to God as many good men, women, and children, are spared the jaws of Hell that are now open and set to devour this Nation.
The 2020 was st**en, the 2022 was s*ol*n, what makes you think 2024 won’t be **olen as well. There needs to be a major turnaround before any further elections can be sto**n again! Without cleaning up this corruption, nobody will have any confidence at all in the possibility of any further free & fair elections!
With all due respect, you cannot rely on Biden’s failures to give the GOP the win because the recent election is proof that people will continue to vote against their best interests. If you are relying on increased inflation and costs and a cratering economy to deliver GOP win, don’t.
unless something is done about the cheat
the uniparty will continue to select our
candidate winners for us
The Virginian is correct. Think about it. Abortion issue had nothing to do with it and neither will Biden destroying our economy and other things. Ppl need to wake up!
Again…… why does that matter if the election is rigged?
I know things can get worse, but nothing overcomes fraudulent elections.
The Republican Party and Rino Republicans are the reason we lose elections. There is no unity and patriotism seems to mean nothing any more. Leftist Democrats are not our friends and we have too many establishment Republicans who are spineless to identify and rebuke those in both parties working to bring our country down.
If 2022 didn’t disabuse you of your most logical thoughts on elections, nothing will.
2 yrs of OBiden was enough to have generated a red wave
Until we can be assured of uncorrupted voting centers, ballots, and every possible method of voter fraud being purged, you can assume we (Republicans) will never win another election. We know that once again the Chinese switched vote numbers in Pennsylvania between OZ and Fetterman (360,00 from Oz to Fetterman in the flash of an eye) and Arizona (some 30,000 from Lake to Hobbs) just to name two, during this last election. We even know the exact time it happened and who did it (China)!
I haven’t been paying close enough attention, how do you know this?
BUT the GOP is not working to FIX the ELECTION FRAUD, so how people VOTE was IRRELEVANT to THE GOP LEADERS in 2020, AND ALSO IS NOT RELEVANT TO THEM NOW in 2022 – No matter how hard the CHEATING is rubbed into their Fat GLUTTONOUS FACES – they do NOT care one spit.
So if SOMETHING isn’t done NOW, the VOTE in 2024 is even FAR LESS RELEVANT —
as long as the Supermajority are CONTENT to have it STOLEN.
A WHOLE LOT MORE bald-faced insultingly Blatant Fraud!
And an INSIGNIFICANT rebuttal to it.
As long as the Rebuttal is NOT Sufficient to stop the Fraud, It is for all intents and purposes INSIGNIFICANT.
Nobody is working on that Harder than Trump and His Strong Supporters, but this is mighty hefty tonnage for them to slug away at without any more VISIBLE support from the Super Majority.
I pray that God Himself will set FIRES to the butts of the “Conservative Couch Potatoes”!!!!
Wow … 2018 stole the House with MASSIVE Ballot Harvesting in California …
2020 stole the Senate and the Whitehouse with MASSIVE computer fraud, Ballot Harvesting and Mail-in Drop Boxes … 2022 stole the Senate with MASSIVE Ballot Harvesting in Arizona & Nevada.
The dead of Chicago elected JFK IN 1960 … the RINOS & GOP knew and did NOTHING.
60 years later the RAT Cheat is an Art Form … and the RINOS are celebrating another “Mission Accomplished”.
How do you suggest WeThePeople stop the Massive RAT Cheat?
Yes Serena, you are correct in 2 more years the economy will be in chaos. However, it makes no matter how angry the GOP base gets, they can’t beat cheating.
When we have a complete corrupt government and judicial system and 4th branch of government ballot harvesting will never fix anything.
We also can’t let the cart get ahead of the horse.
There is no way to ensure a “real” election until the rule of law is restored. The Courts refuse to enforce the Law. WHY?
Because the Democrats harvested lots of ballots for candidates like Mayors, local Judges, and Attorney Generals who were financed by the old Hungarian Globalist fart who lives on his yacht and has lots of money to spend on elections so that more ‘useful idiots’ can run our Judicial System. Don’t worry though, Federal Bureaucratic control of all of our police forces is coming soon. Then we will have Amtrak Train to support. But I am digressing. 🙂
I think every judge that shut down the election challenges in AZ was “re-elected”. Reminds me of Joel Skousen telling Alex Jones that a relative of his did background and vetting of judges. After a while he noticed all the ones with dirt were getting promoted more than the “Eagle Scouts”.
You are correct. The Hungarian was the biggest DNC donor followed by FTX. The largest investor in the crypto donation operation, was the Hungarian.
Because most lawyers are Democrat!
“It really doesn’t matter whether Trump or DeSantis is the 24 nominee “
It matters a lot. It is not R vs D anymore. It is Uniparty vs MAGA.
With Trump as the nominee, the entire corrupt, treasonous Uniparty system behind systemic ballot fraud stays front and center.
With de Santis as nominee,the systemic ballot fraud will be finetuned go his way in elections because the Uniparty ensures that red “waves” follow periods of donkey plundering. Uniparty shuffle – two steps to the left, one step back to the right.
(BTW, Noisy GOPe trolls do not render Sundance’s post “irrelevant”. As his analyses home in tighter on the GOPe’s role in Uniparty election fraud, the more GOPe trolls show up to muddy the discussion.)
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that is the Uniparty “play”-as you say-the shuffle w RDS as their selection.
Uniparty is NOT the Answer to Anybody’s Problems or their Dreams, either one!
GOPe voters are more likely to vote for Trump despite their grievances with him. MAGA Republicans/America First Independents do not trust the GOPe. Who’s more likely to not vote? We know the answer. That many votes can overcome ballot harvesting outside of the margin of fraud.
That is what many (if not most) of us expected… hence all the “Red Wave” ballyhooing. Didn’t work, did it?
You’re wrong. Look at Oregon and Washington elections since vote by mail started there.
Now do Utah.
I agree with fundamental changes need to take place, but i disagree that DeSantimonious can Not be elected. With the Dems rigged system, they (the Uniparty) “select” not elect presidents i.e. The Bushes
There Is a God on His Throne and HE is Not Content to lose the USA to the devil.
HE has Biblical Prophecies yet to fulfill, BEFORE it is time for the 7 Yrs Tribulation.
The first step is completely new leadership in the party that will make this a top priority!! As long as McConnell et al are in control of the R party, the Uniparty stays in power.
Excellent post!
Facts that too many Americans are unwilling to face.
Minor tweak suggested. Understanding the enemy is key to understanding how to survive or defeat it.
This beasts is diverse from all others. It bares all of the former powers, and more. It has uprooted, destroyed, over flowed, and spoiled the whole Earth.
If you understand what I just said, then you understand how to protect yourself and your family. You also understand where to best place your energy and focus. Good luck and God Bless.
The irrelevance is in voting… You can’t out vote a government, you only vote for more government.
100% agree. Yes, readers please give us ideas and actions to take now.
voting in national elections when the outcome affects all Americans should be conducted the same way in every state. States can do as they please for elections that affect only their state. Policies and procedures should be standardized and scrutinized for accuracy and compliance. Until that is accomplished we remain a country out of control.
I made this same plea in a comment on American Thinker yesterday, where almost every article was about election fraud and what really happened in the mid-terms. There are a lot of smart people reading and contributing here and similar sites. Surely if we put our heads together we can come up with a plan to correct it. Since a federal law is unconstitutional, it seems like it would have to be a grass roots effort, jurisdiction by jurisdiction. A slow process, for sure but if we start with the really horrible states (Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan), the others would be easy.
One argument against same date voting is that it is difficult to find enough poll workers. If voting is a national holiday for one day, I am confident poll workers could be found. If I were in charge, I would partner with churches, civic organizations, VFW’s, and other patriotic organizations to recruit workers. There are enough people who are angry about the elections that they would gladly work the polls for a day. If that doesn’t work, use government workers for election day duties and give them another day off as a holiday.
Any other suggestions?
One very quick way to fix this election problem is for We The People go to each state house and 1st have a prayer and fasting Vigil. Prayers are for our elected leaders to fix the voting system in their state. Then a systematic lobbying of each member of the state legislature that can make changes. Then once they agree hold them to it. Visit committee votes push the state. Then when the vote for the new laws come, do a prayer walk around the state house. Bring God’s will on earth as in heaven.
All true, but if you can’t win elections in the present corrupt conditions, how do you make the necessary changes?
There is no way to get this done. It could only happen in states where we have a non-regime controlled GOP Governor and both chambers of the legislature. AZ had a GOP Gov + Legislature the past 2 years but still didn’t get it done, because most (or all) GOP politicians in AZ are of the McCain wing and hate their own voters.
Anyway, even if we could get this done in every state with a GOP Gov + legislature, it wouldn’t be enough states to have a nationwide fair election. So the elections are pointless from this point forward. Yet another reason why Trump is the right nominee for 2024 because he will cause the regime to overreact and further reveal themselves. That’s the best we can hope for at this point.
Exactly to the maximum extreme!