The old axiom where someone yells, “look over there folks, shiny things“… as a process of distraction, is entirely apropos of how corporations that are running our current election systems are using the Trump -v- DeSantis discussion; with the backdrop of the 2022 midterm election as context.
So, before moving forward to the heart of what we are being distracted from, check out this article from David Solway, he’s correct. Unless and until the critical issue of “votes” -vs- “ballots” is corrected, pushing DeSantis into the war against the administrative state is akin to throwing a decent general into a lost war.
[…] “In a rigged electoral system, no Republican candidate, not even DeSantis, can be expected to win a national election. DeSantis cruised to victory in Florida because, as governor of the state, he had the means and the authority to ensure a clean election. But he would be helpless against a massive crime organization, aka the Democrat Party, which effectively controls the electoral infrastructure, the physical apparatus, the paid loyalty of election workers, and the federal agencies that oversee the process. If the system is not repaired and made answerable to the people, there will never be a Republican president again.” (READ MORE)
The presumption within the article is that DeSantis is not a participating member of the corporate control system, which, despite the eloquence of the article word assembly, I am not quite willing to accept; especially, with our long history of research into how the administrative state operates proactively to control the levers of power.
However, that said…. let us assume that Deep State operatives from the U.S. State Dept and coordinated globalist operations, in combination with multinational corporations and Wall Street financing, are just accidental to the political orbit of the Florida Governor… and if the assumption of altruistic intent is the guiding naiveté I am requested to accept, then the framework of the author’s prediction is entirely accurate.
Either way, until we address the 800lb gorilla in the room of intentional mass distribution of state and federal election ballots, to low agency or non-existent recipients, for early gathering, trying to amass enough ‘votes’ to defeat a large scale and industrial ‘ballot’ gathering operation is futile.
“The main issue is ballot harvesting [legal gathering] and no-excuse universal mail in ballots. Republicans need to spend big cultivating harvesting operations in key districts across the country where it’s legal until they have enough power to outlaw it, along with no-excuse mail ins.”
[…] Remember, a ballot isn’t the same as a vote and the Democrats GOTV machine know this much better than Republicans seem to. Not saying it’s right, but it’s reality and we can’t live in fantasy land. [Tweet Thread]
Prime time
Is run by the mob
This article squarely addresses
If any DeSantis backer is honest
DeSantis
2024
National Attempt
Is lose / lose
Way past time to counter the dem syndicate with our own mob, harvesting ballots.
I am ready and awaiting instruction. Not needed here in Kentucky but willing to travel.
Then how does Mitch McConnell keep getting elected? He is a huge globalist RINO who is married to a China operative. He must be blackmailing other senators to keep being elected leader.
Something like that.
Have ballot, will travel. Got it.
Then there’s the crooked counting & adjudication process, not to mention the crooked SOS, DAs and DOJ.
It’s rigged through and through. Playing their game is not a viable option.
I loathe back stabbing cowards.
I don’t believe DeSantis wants to be President. He has a happy and comfortable life and wants to be with his young children as they grow up.
I don’t believe he, or his wife, want a life separated as a couple while spied on and surrounded by Secret Service protections.
I don’t believe he wants to deal with Kim Jong Un and Putin and the corrupt EU, and more. So, what’s left?
The saying “It’s always about the money” applies. Yes, if he announces, he’s a backstabber in more ways than one.
What’s left? A lobbyist position on K Street that relates to reconstruction after a hurricane. Ultra private schools for the little ones in Washington DC, with Yale guaranteed acceptance later on.
Bs his lifetime goal has been to be be president. His wife is in someways worse than him
For some reason people on our side think DeSantis will just waltz into the White House. I actually wonder if DeSantis could win the primary.
ANd most people seem to think if DeSantis were to get in the WH he would
enact MAGA policies..NO..The uniparty not only hates Trump they hate
the America First/MAGA policy there is no way they would let him
enact those policies..
Trillions are at stake, Remember?
The deep state lives are at stake. They need to win at all costs to keep from being brought to justice.
It goes both ways, Patriot lives are at stake too. Jan. 6th should be enough of a wake-up call for conservatives, but if that isn’t, just look at all of the conservatives that have had their lives and livelihoods destroyed by the State, the Courts, the Media, and the Democrat mobs.
Please do not continue to isolate these victims as a ‘them, not me’ issue…we are all on the chopping block.
“Their” trillions are at stake….
Even President Trump was unable to enact the MAGA policies, Especially draining the swamp. PResident Trump made no headway with the intelligence community, the DOJ, the FBI and I’m not even sure the Supreme Court, even though his picks went through.
So what does that tell you?
The president is an avatar to Congressional attempt to nullify the the Executive.
My prediction is Congress will create a Parliamentary system ending the Executive then work to nullify the states.
Do you think Congress could get that past the Supreme Court?
Not without amending the Constitution first.
Yes, they will attempt to turn the states into mere administrative units of the central government.
….of course not. Half the party is pissed off at their party for throwing 2020 and 2022 elections.
TRUMP vs DeSantis is Mutual assured destruction (MAD)
Plus state law in FL states that RDS would have to resign his govenorship if he is running for a Federal office. The dRATS would love this and want him to run, thats why the media is flattering fudgy the whale every day.
A question asked and answered by some 16 GOP primary candidates in 2016. Trump will suck all the air out of any campaign that he’s active in. And, as his strategy of driving the RINOs out from under their rocks is demonstrating, the Trump quicksand is real and career deadly….
“win the primary”, if that included Trump? NOT A CHANCE! And DeSantis knows that. Sure, some scumbags are whispering sweet nothings in his ear 24/7, and he’s having trouble resisting them at the moment. But I still don’t believe he’ll go too far with this. I’m not happy with him right now, of course, but I don’t think most of this is his idea. And for that reason, I do NOT think he’s yet reached the point-of-no-return. If he eventually tells his “backers” to forget about it, and he throws his support to Trump, I for one will be more than happy to “forgive” him.
A Trump/DeSantis ticket would beat every other GOP candidate. And then DeSantis could run in 2028 wit Trump’s backing. Of course stolen elections must be addressed. This year they have stolen the senate & possibly house again. They did it in 2020 & we could not stop them. Had the US Supreme Court heard our evidence they should have overturned 2020 presidency & Congress.
There must be a recount.
Oh absolutely. If DeSantis not only gets back in Trump’s corner, but then hits back at the people currently trying to turn him into their puppet, it would be all over. I don’t even think any amount of cheating would be enough to stop a Trump-DeSantis ticket. It would be so strong that the Dems would probably just pack up and go home… by which I mean they’d run Biden-Harris again! 😀 Even Reagan’s landslide would pale in comparison.
Anyone who thinks DeSantis will just waltz into the WH is definitly not on My Side…
I’m no prophet but my prediction for 2024 is that Biden will be told not to run, Gavin Newsom will run (their boy heir apparent) and there will be massive fraud/cheating to get him in the White House, no matter who the Republican candidate is. mark it
You’re probably correct.
Yep. Totally agree. You apparently grasp the full significance of what is happening. 😢
I agree. Gavin Newsome is a bad seed from a bad family. When I saw Gavin was advertising in Florida and Texas I knew 2022 and 2024 was fixed. I don’t plan on being on the boxcar, we are planning our exit strategy today.
Newsom is the perfect front man for an Orwellian totalitarian regime.
He was born for the part.
Satanic forces are in overdrive.
Biden will likely be forced out soon, either by the left discovering Hunter’s crimes, the left discovering he is a blithering idiot, the 25th Amendment, or all three.
Harris will be anointed, with Gavin given the VP training wheels. Newsom will be under the radar letting Harris take the arrows, until Harris decides she is done with politics, and Newsom will be the new selection to run in 2024.
The left will then cheat enough to insure they win enough House and Senate races to give him anything he wants.
This looks like the cards in play.
they apparently installed two dead people; has that been done before?
Fraud or not Newsom will be your president in 2024. He is part of the Pelosi machine. He and his wife have all the correct pedigrees plus he has good hair!
So did John Edwards….
Well played😏
They’ve been planning Gavin as president for many years at this point. It’s why they went with Biden in 2020, knowing they were going to steal the election anyway. Let Biden take the fall for all the terrible Dem policies, then let a much younger Dem take over in 2024.
It is written.
I believe that it’s all negotiated before our elections even take place. McConnell, Pelosi and the powers that be select which candidates will win and who will lose. Don’t be surprised if they allow DeSantis to win since he is controlled opposition. One big uniparty. The Republican leadership is part of the fraud. They allow it deliberately and knowingly. I’m sure Pelosi and Mcconnell planned the insurrection as well. Same goals. Get rid of Trump and all of us.
Stephen Miller explains why it wasn’t the red tsunami like expected
https://rumble.com/v1u4kj0-stephen-miller-explains-why-it-was-at-the-red-tsunami-like-expected..html
What is sad about that interview is that everyone seems to be resigned to take the losses w/out a fight. EVERYONE KNOWS about the cheating, how and why it was done. So instead of trying fight it, let’s just accept and start working on a different plan. Sad. As we know a great deal can happen in two years. My entire life has been spent trying for the GOP to get it right correct their faults and be useful party on behalf of us, the citizens.
It took me eight years to get our GOP to put up meetings around the state on their website. They never listed where, when, time of local meetings. That is just a basic thing to do if you want new people to come out.
Stephen is right, no changes should be made in leadership until this is a closed deal and GA has been decided. McConnell and crew will probably get their way, because that is how it rolls.
After Rommel was driven back to Tunisia, he was reinforced with 200,000+ fresh troops and then Rommel was evacuated leaving the troops to surrender.
That’s throwing an army into a lost war, but saving the general so he can betray you later.
Then when Rommel was caught as part of the group trying to assassinate Hitler he was given two choices.
He commit suicide and his death would be passed off as mortal wounds in battle so his wife could receive state benefits or he would be put on public trial and then put to death where as his family would be humiliated and would lose any and all government pension.
It is believed he really had no choice and took a cyanide pill which was such a popular thing among the Nazi Elite.
The world those creepy people live in is no picnic and I do not envy any of them right now.
The ones who think they are going to rule the world always lose big time in the end.
The problem is that there is NO legislative cure to the 800 lbs gorilla and unless and until the courts take it on, America as founded is over.
<The problem is that there is NO legislative cure to the 800 lbs gorilla…>
Foster vs. Love – 1997 might disagree 🙂
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https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/522/67/
But where are the courts. Corrupt or cowed?
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I promised ADMIN that I would not speak “mean” to “others” in order to get unblocked so I am going to ask this gently, did you actually read the citation you gave?
The issue at hand was, could Louisiana have a open primary that could have a candidate getting more then 50% of the total vote and thus electing their Congress person a month earlier then prescribed by Congress as authorized in the in the Constitution and the answer was NO!
With that said how does it apply to stolen, manipulated and undermined elections that are explicitly authorized by law (state and Federal) particularity since in fact Federal Elections are no longer ON THE DATE PRESCRIBED as voting starts early and ends later by State Statue and presumably in violation of your very citation.
Again as I said, unless and until the courts take on the cases and decide them on merit instead of failing to hear them because of standing NOTHING is going to change and the Nation as Founded HAS ALREADY BEEN LOST.
Murray, you’re not being ‘mean’…All Treepers love one another!
This is what I thought…I could be wrong:
As you know…
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
The Foster Court noted that while states can prescribe regulations governing the Times, Places and Manner of holding elections, Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations. The Court stated:
The [Elections] Clause is a default provision; it invests the States with responsibility for the mechanics of congressional elections but only so far as Congress declines to pre-empt state legislative choices. Thus, it is well settled that the Elections Clause grants Congress ‘the power to override state regulations’ by establishing uniform rules for federal elections, binding on the States. ‘The regulations made by Congress are paramount to those made by the State legislature; and if they conflict therewith, the latter so far as the conflict extends, ceases to be operative.’
I am not a lawyer…
Am I misreading? Thanks.
There is one last civil option left albeit unlikely – Convention of the States (constitutional).
Yes, ballots should=votes, but don’t. If conservatives attempt to manufacture “ballots” the way dems do, we will go to jail. The DOJ, be it Garland or Barr would happily prosecute. Barr did not even recognize the situation. I’m surprised by how many on “our side” say we had bad candidates and lazy voters, instead of telling the truth.
Bingo. Any attempts to organize an operation similar to Detroit or Atlanta would be met with FBI SWAT teams as soon as the van pulled into the counting station.
Here’s a thought. Infiltrate the dems harvesting ops and document the deeds.
It is being done as I write this, in Maricopa County by a pissed-off election official. Gateway Pundit has posted three articles so far detailing the fraud, and the role of Raffensburger’s golden haired child, Runbeck Systems.
2000 mules
We need to start switching out registration to Democrat and go in as subversive.
They do it all the time.
Correcto…those with the heavies win the prize.
We have a 2 tier justice system: those on the inside of the Big Club are protected. Those on the outside of the Big Club are a threat to the B.C. and must be silenced, destroyed, and marginalized. These people play for keeps.
I disagree, we had many outstanding candidates like Adam Laxalt, Blake Masters, Kari Lake, and Tudor Dixon, to name only a few, but when the game is rigged, it doesn’t matter who the candidate is, you can’t win. They cheat, steal, and lie.
There must be an end to wholesale absentee ballot voting, ballot harvesting, weeks long ballot counting, and massive contributions from the likes of George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg. Perfect example, PA. Ok, so Oz was not the greatest candidate, was Fetterman? No, he is a mentally impaired individual, who couldn’t even articulate a single position in the debate. We should have been able to run Micky Mouse against him and win. Is there anyone commenting here that believes he won without massive corruption dragging him across the finish line??
Unfortunately, MI just “passed” a proposal that allows days-long counting, early voting, increase of drop boxes, no questioning of absentee ballots (more or less), etc.
so it’s hard to end it when they just essentially made it all “legal” to do so.
Any action that would improve election integrity is called Jim Crow 2.0 and the DOJ civil rights division will sue or charge.
He did repeat “Roe v Wade” over and over again. That should tell you something.
Stolen!!
I doubt anyone in this conversation is suggesting that MAGA-R’s behave criminally as the Democrats do.
However, things like: getting into the local Elections Board, collecting the ballots (like the NGO/Ballot traffickers do) without committing fraud, photographing and reporting offenders, engaging with and educating voters to the “tricks” being pulled on them by accepting payment in exchange for a ballot, etc., might be more in line with how we operate. All staying within the legal lines.
I’ll leave it to smarter, more strategic thinkers than myself to find solutions, but I would expect MAGA-R’s to maintain comportment and respect, respect law and order, all the while undermining and thwarting the evil Democrats and RINO’s.
Your words are the beginnings of stating planning that can/could make a difference.
Courage begats Courage. People are more apt to do the right thing in the right moments when they witness others doing right.
Just voting MAGA and hoping a MAGA winner is going to turn around all of the corruption inside the corrupted system isn’t enough of a plan. Evidenced by 2022 after 2020 after 2018.
Exactly.
Thank you, I have been saying this. Stop blaming the abused voters like we didn’t cook the steak right, and stop blaming very brave candidates!
Blame the evil sociopathic. Communist Democrats who now have taken over our govt and our elections.
I do not blame the millions of innocents who were murdered by Hitler or the tens of millions murdered by Stalin, or the hundred million Chinese killed by Mao and on and on. Why should we blame innocent Americans who are standing by their God, families and country and their real President.
Stay faithful , pray, support President Trump, tell the truth and do not accept lies coming from anyone.
blame the republicans – our voting club is doing nothing to stop this
Those that say we had bad candidates or lazy voters are too gutless to call out the facts.
They would rather bash their own voters than be labeled by the media as an election denier.
You see it with many in the pundit crowd bashing Trump, but completely silent on races still being stolen by the “count-til-you-win” left.
Most conservative media members are largely disconnected outsiders, smart enough to recognize their lucrative speaking gigs and Fox News slots will dry up if they threaten the UniParty’s established talking points. At the end of the day, so-called rightwing media live off the crumbs provided by corporate media like Fox News with one agenda at the moment – stop Donald Trump from returning to power.
Election fraud on the scale it’s being practiced now completely undermines all faith and confidence in American elections and the legitimacy of our Federal government. Which often leads to civil wars and nasty revolutions.
Recounts are in order. So obvious.
Karine announced just prior to the election that in PA 800K ballots were requested. NOW, PA is announcing that the number was 1.4M. Was there no cut off?
So they just kept harvesting ballots until they got enough to win. What a disgrace.
It’s like someone spat in your face and then laughs at you.
And not a word about the machines from anyone. I guess that was a super impressive get out the vote in Brazil
Hopefully Lake wins in AZ and start cleaning up that mess, that is one steep climb.
Tomorrow should be fun to watch if Ken Griffin has to bail out Robin Hood again after this FTX scam.
What has changed in Arizona? It is unlikely Lake will be allowed to win as more time passes.
The 800lb gorilla rules in this one.
For years you always heard of the Arizona mafia, now you get to see it.
They are deliberately counting last, the ballots dropped off on voting day in Maricopa county. These are largely R votes, a lot of R votes. People were avoiding the early voting, rightfully suspicious of it. This is why Lake says ‘hold the line.’
Many truly hope this to be the case. Some then imagine a sudden blue spike in dem votes miraculously overcoming Ms. Lake’s.
B.S.
There must be a recount for all offices.
Nothing has changed, except an incremental increase in the darkness there.
Agreed.
How is it that such an intelligent, attractive, charismatic candidate can excite the voters at huge rallies and lead in the polls until the last few days, can lose to a mumbling coward who refuses to debate and can barely fill a high school gym, at the last second?
Biden is now known as #loleightyonemillion, and has set the precedent that an incompetent, incoherent geriatric hiding in the basement for the entire campaign can actually win with unprecedented vote totals. At least, that’s what we’re expected to believe now, according to the media.
Fetterman is just one more exsmple of many.
We must all just be crazy. Common sense has been deemed uncommon.
They can’t let her win.
Without Finchem and Hamadeh it’s gonna be a tough slog if Kari wins.
I took a look at the legislature yesterday, reviewing a lot of bills and could only find a handful, less than ten, that addressed election related issues and all but one died in committee and the one, pertaining to voter registration, was vetoed by the governor. From what I saw they made noises in January and February, then moved on.
Sad
Hamadeh did very well, even in the Purple batch release of last nite. He did *better* th/ the other Rs in that batch.
AZ should demand a one day revote administered by the AZ National Guard based on fraud and election interference. The rest of the clowns need to have recall elections, stat.
Do it.
Recount all votes for all offices. Has to be done. If there’s no corruption. what’s the problem?
Am I wrong in thinking that the Sec of State positions are more important to us than the Governer slots?
In hearing that Soros bought AG’s and SoS’s, it seems to me that those positions are what has enabled Pennsylania and other States to be so corrupt with regard to elections.
Yep, remember years ago about the talk of soros buying the SOS positions.
Of course, they are.
Soros has funded a specific Secretaries of State Project since at least 2006, along with some other big leftist donors. There have been some battles where the media has reported on them periodically, but usually, the media shuts up about this so these candidates can get installed.
Supposedly, it has not been very active in recent years, or shut down, but that is a lie proven by various Soros funded Secretaries of State being installed around the country.
It’s similar to him installing DA’s.
https://ballotpedia.org/Secretary_of_State_Project
Where does Soros reside?
Upstate New York.
From David Solway at PJ Media.
Trump has obviously made his mistakes. As Alicia Colon writes on American Thinker, “There is no question that Donald Trump is a flawed human being like most successful businessmen.” She goes on: “Whenever I read the complaints from Trump haters, it’s all about his personality, his tweets, his misogynism, his sexist remarks, blah, blah, blah. This is infantile, high school criticism that has no place in political punditry.” Similarly, as J.B. Shurk writes, everything that the establishment class “has fraudulently peddled against Trump—that he’s imperious, mercurial, uncouth, unworthy to hold office, a Russian spy, a warmonger, an insurrectionist, a ‘denier,’ a criminal—is nothing but an endless barrage of psychological warfare directed against MAGA voters.”
Trump’s flaws of character — and who is without them — do not alter the fact that Trump is an indomitable fighter and the most successful president in recent history. His ego is concomitant with his strength; the two cannot be separated. To turn against him now and indulge in gutter journalism, righteous schadenfreude, or in considerations of realpolitik largely because a number of his chosen endorsements succumbed to a corrupt and rigged electoral machine is a sign of conservative defeatism and, in some cases, of self-enamored mobbing.
We were quite happy with his major and unprecedented policy successes: making America energy-independent, restoring the manufacturing base, revisiting trade deals to benefit American workers, creating a surge in employment and prosperity, laboring to put a stop to illegal immigration, appointing conservative judges, rebuilding a depleted military, and establishing renewed American pre-eminence on the international stage. Now we are ready to consign him to the golf course. How quickly gratitude turns to recrimination.
…and those same people cried ‘crucify Him’ just days after welcoming Him with the highest praise…
Yes, indeed.
Are you sure? Many prefer a soft-spoken nice guy with perfect manners to lead us out of this dangerous situation! /s
They had that wth Obama. How did that work out
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha……………………………..
The author apparently has not researched American politics thoroughly, going back to the American Revolution. Name calling and violence were part and parcel of the process, even among those we revere as fathers of the Republic.
I saw it first person in the 60’s and 70’s. ‘Crooked Hillary’ has nothing on that era. Then we can get into how political candidates and their operatives used the press to attack and smear their opponents with vulgarity, profanity, innuendo and outright lies.
In general, figure life is war then you die. PDJT knows the game and has played it well. His results speak for themselves. My personality is vastly different but I have enough life experience to know what those paths bring and respect those who know how to play the game, and well.
Unless the elections are no longer rigged, which does not appear likely…we as a country will fall and no amount of “voting” removes communism. I suspect the fall is being accelerated and may not be far off. Look to Venezuela.
In the current situation, try to be sure the “conservative” sites and figures are indeed that. Many are already not allowing any posts critical of their own stance. I consider those suspect. I am not referencing CTH!!
On a brighter note…the illegals may self deport…lol.
We may be glad there’s no wall if we need to flee South
There would be a wall overnight if that started.
Yep.
now that is funny
REALLY?
Amen to that.
Well spoken. So we learn to essentially game the system to survive our way out of this? Not sure this is feasible. You need to be inherently corrupt to do this well.
The country is in a horrible position. Worst inflation in 40 years, demented “President,” rampant criminality, southern border nonexistent, 87,000 new IRS agents and 70% of the American people think we are on the wrong track. None of those things are arguable. They are facts.
Now, given those facts, the idea that we as a nation would not only vote to keep in office the people who have caused these problems, but increase their numbers, is absolutely insane. This COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITH HONEST ELECTIONS. We all know this. Consequently, the only logical answer is that the elections of 2022 were stolen, and stolen by the ‘Rats with connivance from the RINO leadership of the GOPe.
Now the question is what can we do about it?
believe it or not there many reprobate minds out there who will put up with all that and more as long as they are allowed to kill their babies….and right up until birth.
What you have just stated is the incomprehensible truth. Stomach churning truth.
We could do a Brazil if we can get off the couch.
Demand the McFailure wing of the Republican Party – Mitch McFailure and Kevin McFailure step down from leadership immediately.
If conservative media wasn’t controlled opposition, we’d be seeing a litany of pieces coming out…attacking Mitch McConnell. But we get nothing but coordinated hit pieces on Donald Trump, who literally campaigned week after week this year while Mitch and gang hid out in DC.
No Republican other than Donald Trump is getting my vote ever again until Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are removed from leadership.
Ditto.
It is forbidden to say what must be done. Even I, with a short future, am fearful to say it. It’s up to the young and brave that will do the right thing necessary.
This morning I started thinking about our two-party system and how I’m just so tired of it.
I’m so tired of fighting over which party controls the White House.
I’m so tired of fighting over which party controls the House.
I’m so tired of fighting over which party controls the Senate.
I’m so tired of fighting over which party controls State offices.
I also don’t want to hear about a third party ever again. Yes, a third party kind of worked out once, but the consequences were severe and the fight for control over of the people still continues.
As hard as I try, I can’t imagine a way to convince Democrats to walk away from their party in numbers large enough to make a major difference. Much energy went into a valiant and honorable effort this time around in the walk-away movement. I salute that movement and those that tried. Thank you. The problem, however, is that the system is not honorable. The system plays dirty.
Breath in. Breath out. C’est la vie. Such is life. Don’t give up. The battle continues.
So, what do we do?
Well, we could crash the parties with a hostile takeover of one of the parties and I’m not talking about the Republican party. We’ve been trying that for far too long and it hasn’t worked out very well.
What would happen if this coming Tuesday Trump announces that he is running to be the Democrat nominee for President? And then he asks the MAGA nation to join him in changing to the Democrat party and changing the party from within.
Envision the heads exploding all over the place.
Goodbye Republican power.
Goodbye Republican party.
Goodbye party donations.
Say goodbye to the two-party fights.
Say hello to Primary fights the way they were supposed to be, Mono a Mono.
That’s when I heard George Washington say that that’s the way they should be.
I looked around and didn’t see him and I didn’t recognize where I was.
Ah, that’s when it hit me, I need to wake-up and go pee.
So, I did and then I did.
At least your thinking what we can do,nobody elected are doing anything.
Did someone legalise mushrooms?
I thought OR did awhile ago
Colorado did, so now we can look forward to even more drugged out mopes begging on the street corner to fund their lifestyle.
Colorado.
They are quite helpful for PTSD, far fewer adverse events than SSRI medications. Maybe a few cups of tea is what’s in order to figure this nightmare out.
This is what marijuana proponents said when trying to legalize weed in CO. It’s same playbook.
Walmart has them. Duh.
Colorado voters legalized mushrooms, DMT, ibogaine and psychedelic substances derived therefrom.
It’s mano a mano!
Yes it is.
If the elections were fair, your Trump-running-as-a-Dem isn’t a terrible idea. But we know the Dem primaries are just as crooked as the regular elections.
True, just as crooked as the Rep primaries since they are the two wings of the same Uni-party.
The pretense that they are two different parties just adds to their ability to control the elections.
Since the beginning, I’ve been asking, “Where are the lawyers on our side?”
We must challenge the concept of mailin balloting as a civil rights issue that clearly disenfranchises real voters who vote securely vs a method that can’t be secured. This has been settled in most of the world. But again, we are the last domino to fall in a long grind of world domination.
The question is: When will folks realize it? When they do, then what?
Like any other socio-economic caste, lawyers have their pecking order too. Challenge the club and get destroyed.
We saw that with some of PDJT’s personal/campaign lawyers. Smeared, attacked, fired from their firms, who knows if any were disbarred; if they were I wouldn’t be surprised. That’s reality.
“Where are the Lawyers on our side”. My question also. Where is one SCJ? Clarence Thomas anyone? He is in the twilight of his career, not term limited, owes nobody. It is not against the law for him to speak out.
I believe the reply by many judges and justices to any complaints by those hurt from election fraud, ballot fraud, and/or voting fraud is “NO STANDING” if you are a MAGA person.
https://t.me/realKarliBonne/133654
They will cry like babies, and then recall the words of President Reagan: “It only takes one generation to lose your freedom, and when that happens, the old-timers will tell the children how wonderful it used to be”. Not exact, but best of my memory.
How about not primarily focusing on Elections in the 1st place…?
How about focusing on coming up with every way we can to apply pressure on the centers of power each + every week?
How about community organizers + orgs + campaigns not only against elected officials in our own party but on leadership + staff in all our vital institutions?
How about a civil rights movement for all Americans?
The Great Reset will increasingly turn up the heat on the pressure cooker building toward a collapse.
Winning will depend on marshalling + directing the discontent into everyday action — not putting the vast majority of our effort into fixing broken elections (as important as that might be).
Fixing Elections + then winning them will be a byproduct of effective action well beyond them…or we never had hope to begin with….
Yes, yes, yes!
Hold all office holders accountable ALL the time! Not just at the ballot box.
That won’t work.
The people who produce actual things and services that benefit society at large are the conservatives and moderares. In order to perform these functions and still support their families, they do not have the time required to be activists.
The Democrats/radical left havef managed to create an alternative, subversive economy that is nearly totally supported by the productivity of conservatives and moderates.
How many scores of millions of highly paid people are employed in industries and careers that produce little of real value to this country but can be full time political activists?
Government workers at all levels, corporate media, social media, journalists, entertainers, lawyers, teachers/professors at all levels, union leaders, non-profit orgs, and many more actively work at undermining this nation because it’s their entire job function. Many of them are fully paid by our own taxes in one way or another. After “work”, their hobby is to go on Twitter to cancel anybody they missed on the job.
We can’t even try pulling mass boycotts. Recall what happened to the Canadian truckers’ when they tried that?
I hope I’m 100% wrong but it’s looking like the only thing Orwell got wrong was the year.
Like I wrote in a different part of this thread — look at an example like J. Vernon McGee’s Thru the Bible radio/online ministry.
The man has been dead since the late-1980s – but his message still goes out every single day in a vast amount of nations in a vast amount of native languages…
If millions of Trump Supporters were led to marshal their strengths via trustworthy orgs — if you had millions of them regularly donating $25 of their pay as a type of tithe to an org that handed the funds out to other orgs across the country that put pressure on local centers of power — they could be effective.
What happened to the Canadian Truckers…?
They pulled off an effective event.
The problem was — they did it as a one-off protest.
With proper leadership + organization + funding — things like that could be staged on a regular basis + would have an effect.
Just because we’ve refused to try it doesn’t mean it won’t work.
The problem is — we won’t even boycott Facebook in mass……………despite the role Zuckerberg played in the 2020 Theft….
This is where Leadership comes in….
If Trump had encouraged followers to boycott Facebook – they would have….
The Average Person doesn’t have to commit a whole lot of their time + energy to make a difference.
Civil Rights Movements don’t require active participation on a regular basis by a large amount of people.
Average People put on impressive rallies for Trump in 2020 + after.
—- If a majority can’t make itself felt effectively………………???
John Solomon wrote an excellent piece on what we need to do, and how referring to the The Gipper’s playbook, will help:
‘The Gipper’ strategy: Six bold ideas for Trump, Republicans to rebound from 2022 midterms | Just The News
Oveall an interesting read with some pretty good advice. Will sum it up here to save the longer read for those who want details:
Very interesting provocations. I agree 100% on the high level points, with the following builds:
We could do all those but if one side is allowed to blatantly or openly cheat then there is no hope us.
bkrg2 thank you for taking the time to summarize it for everybody else.
Bold ideas are no match for corrupted elections. Sorry
The whole process of V O T I N G in the U.S.A is corrupt, crooked and fixed.
You know it, I know it, the whole world knows it: U.S. “elections” are a sick joke.
What’s it gonna take to take it back from the deep state rats and snakes?
I think voting issues vary from state to state. In NC we have no drop boxes and getting an absentee ballot requires
a formal request from the person and requires a witness to verify your signature. In my area we have always used paper ballots. We have 10 days of early voting—WELL supervised.
We had a mini red wave. Statewide we had 2 State SC vacancies and 2 Repubs. were elected. So we have a Repub. SC. We elected a veto-proof Rep. State Senate, a Repub. dominated State house. We have 2 Repub. Senators (one Trump endorsed). Half of our US house members are Repubs. and state-wide, 8 Rep. Sheriffs replaced Dems.
And we have our fire brand Lt. Gov Mark Robinson—his job is to oversee our Board of Education.
Our voting population of roughly 7.5 million is about the size of Arizona’s, I think. Our results were in on election night.
Thanks for your information on that. Good to hear!
Keep in mind this “GOTV” ballot harvesting the Dems employ is VERY EXPENSIVE. I know first hand in 2018 in OC CA, home of the Conservative movement, the Dems were paying $25 per hour for ballot harvesters. They did this for the whole month of October. Rohrabacher (the incumbent!) was outspent $3 mil to $30 mil. The GOP can’t compete with this system. I highly believe they are “harvesting” ballots from non-existent, illegal or very, very low propensity voters.
Right. At minimum, getting everyone out to vote forces the Elites to expend resources. Its a big reason they want a Technocracy in the 1st place. Far cheaper to own a Fauci than a House of Representatives..
Follow the money and attack the money. In some form or fashion, the vast majority of it derives from us and is concentrated into the pockets of the few.
I’ll pick Prop 114 in my state. Microsoft guru Steve Balmer’s wife Connie contributed 3/4 of a million dollars to its support, far outspending any opposition in total. Where did that money come from? Think about it. Follow the money.
We have choices.
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The GOPe can’t compete because they are wasting millions on expensive consultants whose only concern is their paychecks clear.
The many millions they still collect from donors, individual and corporate, are never spent on something they believe can be done through “volunteers”.
The left will fund their candidates, fund PAC’s and organize NGO’s or taxpayer supported non-profits where many more millions can be funneled to win.
I believe TTV had data on ballot mules going back to non-profits in the 2020 election. The data should have been released and the non-profits/NGO’s named so people would know who was in their midst stealing their vote.
I agree about knowing who the NGO’s are that steal the vote by using and funding the mules. Why can’t we KNOW who they are so we can steer clear of them?
There is no voting this out. It will continue to get worse. RINO GOPe leadership must be purged out of the system first. Replaced with true representatives of the people. Repeal the 17th Admendment and back to Senators representing the states. Back to a balanced budget and reduction of the budget and size of governmenet. It is too big with the amount of money involved. The corruption just spreads. “I am just taking a few crumbs. Nobody will notice. Besides, it is my right to.”
Biden like democrats that have been declared victorious are mummies wrapped in ballots with no signatures
I cannot give the link, because I do not subscribe to Rasmussen Reports.
Supposedly they have a poll showing 2/3 of Americans think there was fraud in the election.
Without action against the criminals such opining is worthless, as we know. And so…
Who will investigate and prosecute?
Quis custodes ipsos custodiet?
Bet they did not ask which party did the fraud.
Who will investigate and prosecute?
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Surely you jest! NO ONE will investigate. All the investigators are in on the scam!
Yes, that may be part of our era’s epitaph.
What was done to Churchill.
“Now we are ready to consign him to the golf course. How quickly gratitude turns to recrimination.”
Churchill won the Battle of Britain air war, went on to win ww2. Iron Curtain speeck, etc etc etc. For his efforts the British people booted him out. We really are like our older brothers in the UK.
Sobering, but important article, from Political Moonshine today! “The Senate Has Been Stolen Again and Why It Really Matters!” Please read at https://politicalmoonshine.com/2022/11/13/the-senate-has-been-stolen-again-and-why-it-really-matters/ or on Substack at https://politicalmoonshine.substack.com/p/the-senate-has-been-stolen-again
IMO: DeSantis is the acceptable Republican that will be allowed to win, because he won’t rock the boat too much and will assist corporate interests through trade deals and economic policy decisions. The people who pull the levers of power realize that they must allow a Republican they control to become POTUS occasionally or the house of cards will fall. It would not surprise me if he has been a part of the plan for 4 or 5 years.
DeSantis might be ‘allowed’ to win the Republican nomination, but not the Presidency.
He will be allowed to be the good loser, put up a good fight, get em next time guy. The Rs role is the same as the Washington General’s. Until they are ready to come out as the CCP, they need to put up an opposing party to pretend we have choice.
The problem is the true believers in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta precincts won’t get that order.
Agree-the only scenario for a DeSantis victory is if they engineer that victory. It is a possibility. They get rid of Trump; get rid of a historically bad D; satisfy the R wing; keep up the two party pretense and throw a bone to voters who think it is all legit because their guy won. Press falls in line with their election narratives and then relentlessly beats him to keep him from doing anything too “conservative” and 4-8 years later it’s the Ds turn.
They let us vote, or trouble would ensue.
Voting is a farce. Trouble should happen.
There are only three possibilities:
1) We now live in a country with massive election fraud.
2) We now live in a country with a massive number of stupid people, or at least ignorant, almost to the point of not even being self-aware, people.
3) Some combination of 1 and 2.
#3
Secession.
I don’t even want to be anywhere near these people.
Dont want to see them, hear them, associate with them….nothing.
Secure strong law enforcement to keep them out.
Let us live in peace and let these communist idiots go down with the ship!
Regarding your number 2)
My theory is that Marijuana consumption has ruined the brains of too many Americans.
There are a large number of websites where you can learn about the long term effects of pot on the brain.
Not pretty.
The article talks as if there is actually a Republican and Democratic party as opposed to a uniparty, the Uniparty party of corruption. I think the concept of a Democratic Party and a republican party is in itself a distraction. The main problem for Trump is not the Democrats it’s the Republicans.I wonder if it means anything to elect Republicans anymore, it didn’t help last time.
Unless New York Times v. Sullivan is reversed restoration of our Republic will never be restored!
IMHO as a highly skilled HVAC tech this is where our efforts ought be.
Also the repeal of the Smith – Mundt Modernization Act.
The republicans got played.
Maybe one day in the future they might realize it. 🙄
R voters got played. The GOPe is celebrating with Nanzi Pelosi and Smucky Schemer. It’s getting hammered time for them.
Tea Party bad – got to do something
Maga bad – got to do something
President Trump bad – got to do something
Well looky here, the republican party is just a minor political party.
Double cross. 🙄
DeSantis’ goal is to splinter MAGA into 2 or more pieces. GOPe will add a few more candidates to funnel off more votes. UniParty is focussed on Trump because he is all that is standing in the way of destroying us. Remember McConnell moved millions from MAGA races to prop up UniParty Candidates.
Was talking to a good friend 2 weeks ago day or so after the Desac comment, he was so upset said we had to move on from PDJT, he was now not electable.
This is a guy that has Trump stuff all throughout his restaurant, we’re in FL and he was able to open up his restaurant early because of RD and is happy for that i get it.
It was just the sudden change that was strange.
He likes Brian Mast also so we don’t go there either, Mast is the Florida version of Crenshaw.
I believe many are only seeing DeSantis, the individual, and not seeing the greedy horde standing behind him manipulating him.
They believe DeSantis will govern as his own man, and not how the horde demands.
You’ve posted this comment before…exact. Do you just go from site to site posting this? If someone was that upset they were never a Trump supporte or if they were they have no idea what they are talking about. I love the name Sanctimonious…hiliarious.
And I am not so sure I will ever vote for DeSantis as his reaction, or non reaction, to Mar a Lago is/was totally transparent to me…he knew it was going to happen and he was happy.
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Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes…
Sick of the pundits around pretending that it’s about politics, not election fraud occurring in multiple places multifarious ways big and small — with a massive cumulative effect.
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The creation of a MAGA Party, separate from the now hopelessly corrupt GOP, would force Republicans to show their hand and reveal their true sympathies. It is looking like the only way forward, given GOP complicity in now TWO major election scams.
Sen Hawley is almost there with new party. Based on his last statement anyway. For what it is worth. Who knows. I think you are correct about MAGA party. Who cares about “splintering the GOP” when you are beaten over the head with the 2×4!
Here’s an honest question: Let’s pretend we create a successful MAGA Party, with a number of MAGA senators and Congressmen managing to get elected. What happens when the House or Senate has to designate a Speaker of the House, or Senate Majority Leader? Would a MAGA elected person be allowed to vote for who leads? Would they have to align with one party or another? I’m asking because I don’t know how that would work with third party candidates — and I’d hate for them to be left out of that part.
Once again, 600,000 plus Postal Workers were exempt from the jab. I knew what was happening then when pilots, nurses and military were forced to get it. Don’t mess with the mail delivery or going postal.
“…pushing DeSantis into the war against the administrative state is akin to throwing a decent general into a lost war.”
I’ve been saying this for 6-8 months.
I’ve also been saying that the *.FED.GOV.US.CO is completely unserviceable at this point.
Texas is not the only state with a lone star flag.
Google Florida department of state “lone star flag.”
Who from the GOP is going to fix the harvest ballot problem?
I mean the current stooges like Ronna and Turtle had 2 yrs to fix it and did nothing.
Stolen election 2020.
Stolen election 2022.
Liz Cheney could have fixed it, but MAGA spitefully voted her out.
(Paraphrased from Daily Wire.)
lol
Little Benny is too smart for his own good.
I’m personally filled with bitterness at the moment. I don’t think conservative can compete in ballot harvesting environment where the candidate is a secondary consideration. The numbers of people that might not have been voting are in urban areas that are exclusively blue anyhow. What are republicans going to do there offer more money per ballot?
That massive crime organization you speak of is, at this moment, stealing a Senate seat and a governorship in Maricopa County. Read the witness accounts posted today at Gateway Pundit.
DeSantis is not stupid he must realize the game.. But for whatever
reason he is going along with it..willingly..if he wasn;t he would
not take the money and he would come out say he isn;t running
and put and end to all this nonsense…But he is not…so
Can;t feel bad for him whatever the outcome…
This is the only thing that matters going forward, the GOP ballot harvesting nuclear bomb.
Because of course, the left and the media will be able to question an election once WE win by using ballot harvesting, and at that point I’m going to call it, mission accomplished.
If the GOP will not take on ballot harvesting, then I’m out and I won’t pretend to be involved in this game any longer.
“The left and the media will be able to question an election once WE win by using ballot harvesting”
And our reply is “It was a perfect election. Not a smidgen of fraud”
I’m all in on ballot harvesting (in states where it is legal).
We need to find these states and target them with our on ballot harvesting ops.
It looks like this is legal in many states. Here is a link to laws for your state.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_laws_by_state#State-by-state_details
I’m requesting a mail in for the Ga Dec 6 run off. I think my vote is safer that way.
Ehhh…
After you fill in your ballot, are you going to take it in personally to the polling place?
““look over there folks, shiny things“”
In addition to those shiny things being a distraction from the need to address how Republicans run in elections, it also distracts from, in my opinion, the bigger problem of our disgraceful party leadership.
Without better leadership that can actually see what is going on and move to correct the problem or compete under the new rules, we will continue to have elections taken from us.
The Republican leadership was silent during this election. The economy, crime and illegal immigration should have been a drum beaten like a rented mule throughout the election. Yes, candidates did so here and there, but I don’t recall hearing much of anything on a national scale from supposedly national leaders, other than MAGA candidates.
School board races across the country were won by people who understood basic things, and fought for them.
It would not have been that difficult to loudly message the three things mentioned above and annihilate the left.
I still don’t know what McConnell’s message may have been, or any national message from the GOP itself. McCarthy seemed to come up with a lame America Commitment message late in the game, and now wants to timidly push it while ignoring elections being stolen out from under him.
The rest are still silent hoping any stink raised by the voters blows over quickly.
DeXX
No one likes a double crosser.
No one.
Yea, there is money involved in this whole election scam. For sure those people who are controlling the balloting, scheming operation are not doing it for ideological reasons nor love of the party. So some nefarious entities have bribed the leaders of this country-wide democrat operated cabal.
The question is, do the Republicans have such power, and are they willing to use it (ie. cheat)? It looks like that is what must be done. Do the ends justify the means?
So who can obtain the backing, and is dastardly enough to accomplish this, Trump or DeSantis?
If Desantis had listened to his voters and allowed Florida to redeem herself by going to watermarked hand counted paper ballots and one day only voting and tabulating with ID, the rest of the Country would have had a pathway to demand the same. It was our State’s BS voting shenanigans in 2000 that ushered in this era of electronic vote manipulation we all love so much. The only reason Desantis was allowed to win was his silence on the Machines and their mayhem.
FL. Went 60/40 R. That’s where the country is at right now. All else is voter fraud. It’s that damn simple.
What is extremely upsetting to me is that I will bet you 100 percent that McConnell Rona and McCarthy will all retain power despite this horrendous result.
You forget that they don’t work for you.