Perhaps a little focus on the foundation of the issue is in order.
Ever since the professional Republican apparatus decided to target, eliminate and destroy the grassroots movement known as the Tea Party, there was always going to come a time when the battle for the heart and soul of the GOP Club would take place.
CTH has been calling this battle ‘The Big Ugly‘ for around a decade.
The Big Ugly battle is essentially the fight between the grassroots working class base of MAGA voters and the professional political snobs in control of the Republican Club boardroom.
Some call it the ‘base’ -vs- the ‘establishment’. There are other names and catchphrases, but the essence of the dynamic is the same. A scruffy voting base, who, prior to Donald Trump, had no visible leader to represent their internal interests around the mahogany table.
Ordinary voters were in an abusive relationship with the people around the GOP boardroom. The Club needed our votes, and our money (less so after the Citizens United decision) but had no intention of ever actually delivering on the priorities of the voters. The Republican political establishment played Lucy with the football for years, and We The People always ended up flat on our backs, continually frustrated and feeling used.
In the same year the Tea Party rose up, the Supreme Court gave the GOP Club legal access to unlimited corporate money with the 2010 Citizens United decision. Mitch McConnell used the newly unrestrained campaign finance mechanism to further diminish the influence of the unwashed masses and eliminate the movement; it’s all well documented.
For the next several years we watched and participated in a political pantomime with highlights to include the 2012 installation of Club member Mitt Romney to represent our interests. Yeah, whatever…. It was a hot mess. Bumper Sticker:
The base voters watched the GOP Corporate Club do nothing to block Obamacare, even after we gave them the House in 2010 midterms. Obamacare was another Lucy and the football scenario, while the Senate wing of the Corporate Club created “comprehensive immigration reform,” including amnesty with Marco Rubio. Eventually, the bloom wore off the ruse, and we dispatched Virginia Club official Eric Cantor as a message to the Corporate Club to knock it off.
The Corporate Club didn’t and doesn’t care. Instead, while they sold out the working-class to the multinationals (TPA, TPP, Paris Climate, etc) they fought harder, gaslight more, and made even more promises they never intended to keep. Lucy had an unending supply of footballs.
Then in 2015 things changed. The voting base found a weapon for use against the Republican Club, the weapon’s name was Donald Trump. From the very first poll conducted after his 2015 announcement Trump was leading the charge, and that lead steamrolled 16 other Club approved candidates. The Club remained furious and vowed to remove the disrupter we sent into the boardroom.
Candidate Trump and President Donald Trump tried to deal with them fair and square on our behalf, but they rebuked him and us.
The Club schemed against him, connived in their little corporate groups to get rid of him, joined with the communists in common cause to cleanse the Club boardroom of the smell from oil, tar and fuel oil, and wanted that vulgarian representative of the dirty fingernail working class eliminated. They want only the “approved Republican” presence.
So, it was always going to get ugly.
It was always going to get Big Ugly.
The Club’s enlistment of former TPP approving congressman Ron DeSantis as a foil against the MAGA leader is transparent. DeSantis, funded by massive contributions from the Wall Street approval committee, replaces the prior approved candidate, Jeb. This Big Ugly battle was always going to end up with vulgarian Trump -vs- the next Jeb. The Club has selected DeSantis as Jeb.
Now, let’s be clear. The Republican political establishment, which includes the entirety of the multinationals in/around it, hereafter just called ‘The Club’, doesn’t give a damn about actually winning the 2024 presidential race. The Club didn’t give a damn when Romney was used either.
What the Club wants is full control of the Club agenda, that’s where the money is. The color of the flag atop the Capitol Hill dome is irrelevant to the activity that takes place beneath it. To understand, remind yourself of: The 2017 Obamacare repeal vote, 2015 TPA and fast track approval, 2015 Corker-Cardin amendment for Obama’s Iran Deal, 2014 Gang-of-Eight amnesty bill, or more recently the 2022 unlimited Ukraine funding.
Under the Capitol Hill dome both Club wings of the UniParty apparatus feed the multinational corporate vulture, regardless of the color of the flag atop the spire.
The Republican Club has no interest in Ron DeSantis becoming President of the United States. The Republican Club has interest in Donald Trump NOT becoming President of the United States. Ron DeSantis is the foil, nothing more. It’s not about Ron DeSantis, it’s about the Club, the mechanism behind Ron DeSantis – the same mechanism that put $200 million into his campaign as enticement for his usefulness.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis -vs- California Governor Gavin Newsom in 2024 is simply two clubs playing the illusion of choice game.
Ultimately, using history and modern politics as the perspective, if you really boil down the political sauce to its reduced state, what you find is… With DeSantis the DNC Club needs less ballot collection to defeat him. However, that’s irrelevant to the intent of his usefulness for the GOP club.
For the professional GOP Club, as openly expressed by the establishment politicians within it, the donors behind it and the media who promote it, the goal is to remove the populism within the club and bring back the multinational Club alignment with the corporations. That alignment was severely damaged by President Trump and the America First economic agenda.
The core of the Big Ugly battle is a Club motive based on money, power and boardroom affluence, in essence, GREED.
For ten plus years on these pages, I have written extensively about how there was always, always, going to be a point where the Big Ugly battle was going to have to be waged. We have waited and waited, looking at each moment, each conflict, each disparagement, each slight and snub, in hope the spark would ignite.
If the Big Ugly arrives in a contest between President Trump and Governor DeSantis, well, great; it needs to happen.
The bottom line is we need this Big Ugly fight. Not only does the future of the GOP reside in the outcome, the future of a constitutional republic free from corporatism is contingent upon it.
Yes, this fight is going to be big, and it’s going to be ugly… and in the aftermath, hopefully lots of free footballs.
Bring it!
Um apparently they are trying to get rid of MAGA like they did the Tea Party. I guess we are being bad little boys and girls and need to be made to shutup and sit down. This is truly aggravating and Trump is not helping any.
Trump is not helping? Your post starts off like you’re anti establishment and then does a 180 in the last line.
He is calling people names DeSantis and Governor of Virginia. What gives? People are complaining all over the place, and Rick Scott now says he’s backing Mitch. Trump needs to wait to see how everything plays out. This election has gotten on everyone’s last nerve. The Republicans are backing down.
This post sound’s a lot like Jeb Bush. Worried about Trump’s tone eh?
It’s a 2015/2016 redux.
I’m just worried that people are turning against Trump because of this. I want these two to be allies. I can’t argue for Trump if he is calling people names.
Tell them to pay attention to what he is calling Youngkin If I
thinking what he means he is trying to say Youngkin has ties
to CHINA…that is what I am reading in that message.
Why doesn’t he just come out and openly make the connection INSTEAD of just calling names?!
For Pete’s sake, isn’t what we want open and honest and TRUTH-TELLING?!
There are lots of Chinese-Americans whose names are recognizably Chinese, but they’re not associated with anything BAD in China. It does no one any good to smear a whole people and potential members of your own team just for the sake of “crypto name-calling” that only “smart” people understand the “deeper meaning.”
These tactics are deep state, odious swamp code-ring games and juvenile. Aren’t we supposed to be exposing and calling out and defeating THEM?!
DeSantis is doing far worse than name-calling and has chosen to be anything but an ally.
He makes Pence look honorable and trustworthy.
Wouldn’t go as far as the Pence comment, but DeSantis is owned. No one can honestly deny that.
Yet he freed Florida. He cannot win the Presidency. No R can the way the Electoral map is. Ballot harvesting in all Left Wing Counties that matter are also backed by Governors and SOS’s who support the Left.
Mr. Trump nick names every opponent. It’s “traditional” at this point.
P Trump is usually dead right on with his “nick names”.
Pretty funny too.
Is that how he won negotiations and exercised “the art of the deal” in all those boardrooms? Would he have tolerated any apprentices who behaved that childishly in any of his enterprises?
Really?!
How about, INSTEAD, he just openly says what the truth is and why? Direct and honest and above that nasty swamp? How about, INSTEAD, he states his positions and crafts a Constitution-based platform of what he believes and intends to rectify when he gets back in the Oval? How about, INSTEAD, he leads by example of how a true STATESMAN behaves?
Why don’t you send him a note and let him know what he needs to do since I’m sure he will listen to you since you have it all figured out.
Well, I would, except I know that one note won’t get it done. It would take many, many people who love him and want him to triumph to write him or call him; enough to get through his gatekeepers. That’s why I’m trying to appeal to you.
If you know it’s the right thing to do, and you love him, and he knows that, all our voices lifted to help him he will listen to.
It’s such an easy thing, to be better than our enemies. We don’t need to get down in their slime. Why should we?
He conquered many a business deal by being a gentleman. That’s what put him where he is. And he did all that without the gratuitous name-calling.
I would have named him Stumpy Short Arms
you are still nonsensical
What about Biden’s tone? Why is no one upset about that? He name called every Trump supporter and has shown absolute disrespect for Trump. Why is Trump always criticized…what about all the Dem name calling.
I don’t know what the Gov of Virginia said but the Lieutenant Gov who is a Republican and first black woman elected to this position, completely trashed Trump today, and lied while she did it. It was on the War Room….
And does what Biden do buy him warm fuzzies and love all around? Is he popular? Do we admire his wit?
No. Because his behavior is reprehensible and disgusting. No one needs to meet him on his “level.” Let him wallow in the mud and turn away erstwhile supporters right and left.
Trump should not be behaving anywhere near that garbage.
My wise grandmother always said, “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” And she was right.
WE should all wear t-shirts with a big finger to Biden.
I can, I will vote for P Trump in a heart beat.
Love Alpha Males.
Does it upset you when they call PDJT names? Will people turn against the commie dems because they call MAGA and PDJT names. Are you worried about that?
After all that PDJT and his family have suffered through because of these demons for the last 7 years, do you really think that anyone with an ounce of gratitude would actually abandoned PDJT?
Those that do are intellectually weak, emotionally spineless, and easily swayed.
So true HD.
Donald Trump is “calling some one names again”.
Give me a break.
If only Trump were more dignified and statesmanlike!!?
Like Romney!
Mr. Pierre Delecto (my Mom forbids me to call him Willard “Mitt” Romney in this house) had an editorial in today’s “Wall Street Journal” . . . I think he is definitely vying for a top spot in Ron’s cabinet.
Those people complaining all over the place are manipulating the fearful, sniping at Trump in an entirely inorganic fashion, it’s damn near AI generated nonsense, it’s an ugly damn game and you are falling for it.
Thank you Maquis, for mentioning Artificial Intelligence (AI) generated nonsense. Totally forgot about that little wrinkle😣.
These are people I know. I’m arguing in his defense, but they throw the name calling back at me.
Toxic people
do toxic things
remove the toxin from yourself
My husband, and friends.
Better to remain silent on the subject than try to persuade them to something they have no desire to appreciate. You owe them no defense of your support for Trump or of his personal style. Unlike his denouncers, Trump never called his political opponents or their supporters “domestic terrorists” or Nazis, or used the power of the State to crush their lives using dangerously inapt labels the way Biden and the deep state Democrats have been doing. I’ll take Trump’s “childish” sobriquets any day over the intentionally inciteful epithets of those who oppose him and the freedom and truth he fights for.
But the point is, one doesn’t justify the other. PROVE THEM WRONG, don’t just splutter and flail back at them!
No mean TWEETS!
That’s the answer!
Are you, or is Trump, so bereft of facts that WILL make actual “mean tweets” because they tell the truth and EXPOSE people and policies, that the only thing you have to come back at the enemy is name-calling?! That’s all you got?!
Our enemy calls Christians, conservatives, Republicans, “the stupid party.”
Are they in fact correct?
Prove them wrong. THAT’s all I’m saying. Fight their stupidity and evil with irrefutable facts, truth, and MUCH smarter than they are!
WHY NOT?!
THAT’S the answer!
If that’s all they can offer, if that’s all they claim to see, if that sets them off to robotically emote with their logic centers utterly shut down, of what use are their protestations?
They are being played, and they are trying to play you without even recognizing it.
If PDJT could be constrained, one concession at a time, by narrative engineers pushing people to demand that he stop this or that tactic, they would have put him in a straitjacket long ago; yet that is the very thing they are endlessly seeking to do, including with this current campaign of REEE.
Let Trump Be Trump.
No. There’s nothing wrong with wanting BETTER from the people supposedly representing you.
Our task is to rise above our enemies, not merely wallow in the stink with them. Our task is to be winsome, not as dark as the enemy is. Our task — our place, especially if we claim Christ! — is to be demonstrably, undeniably BETTER than them. We DESERVE a leader who is!
It’s stupid to keep offending people who otherwise would support you, for the sake of “that’s just the way he is.” He was never like that in any of his boardrooms or enterprises. He was a leader then. He’s supposed to be OUR leader, now! We are just as good as any of those businessmen he dealt with in those boardrooms.
Aren’t we?
Oh yes, let us sleep walk into that gentle goodnight with our chins held high.
Oh. Is that what Trump did in all his business deals? Is that what got him going as a presidential candidate in the first place?
Is that how you remember it? What’s his advice in his books? Please cite page and paragraph in his books where he recommends dealing with people opposing you with mean tweets and name-calling. Was he sleep walking into his businesses and multibillions?
I would take up knitting and always have a project near at hand, where I could pull it out and concentrate on that when illogical people are trying to get me on their illogical train. The pace, the tempo of knitting (or crocheting) is very relaxing and you can just occasionally say, “mm-hmm” and “may I get you some tea?”
I get your point!
🙂
Were these people living in a cave the last seven years?
They probably watch Fox News or read Breitbart or Powerline blog or Redstate; or some other propaganda organ for the multinational corporations.
They are deceived, and of course they don’t know it.
They believe they are informed.
For example, Fox news is propaganda AIMED AT THE CONSERVATIVE VOTER.
Fox provides some authentic conservative content to lure the conservative to watch.
But then Lou Dobbs has his show cut when he starts telling the truth.
Now watch . . . Fox News will push DeSantis, the con man who voted for TPP when he was in Congress. The man who is funded by the Koch brothers billionaire globalists. The candidate who will do the bidding of the multinationals and military industrial complex.
It is the same pattern as with Nikki Haley and Paul Ryan. They seem to be for the people, but it is all a fraud.
Deception.
Evil never wears a black cape like in the movies.
They lie while smiling, and they do good deeds to make you believe.
That’s why Fox has actual conservative content, to make you trust it when it tells you “Arizona for Biden.”
It is propaganda aimed at the conservative. And those who watch are its propaganda targets.
and you run to your computer to post it?
It SHOULD have meant something good that she turned here, where supposedly decent, upstanding people who support Trump are, to get suggestions on how to help those people on the precipice of wholly committing to Trump finally get here. All she’s gotten from most of you is stupidity and abuse.
Those people are willing to come with us. They just don’t fully trust someone who seems to be no better, really, than those he’s supposedly against. And in truth, why would they? Why should they, if he does nothing more than give the enemy the same ammunition against him?
What does he know about the people he calls names and makes fun of? Why doesn’t he say? What is his platform? What criticisms with solutions is he making about the policies being forced on us every day? How is he calling THOSE out and how they VIOLATE the Constitution and Bill of Rights? How do they VIOLATE the teachings of Jesus? What are his concrete, Constitutionally supported remedies?
All of that requires no name-calling. This WAR is against enemy anti-Americanism, NOT against any specific PERSON. All those in power now are merely puppets for a much darker, thoroughly evil cabal.
EXPOSE them and their malevolence and malevolent deeds! GIVE EVERYONE REASONS TO SUPPORT HIM AND NO ONE ELSE!!!
None of that requires name-calling and personal smears.
And all you can offer a comrade-in-arms seeking a way to welcome new recruits is to scorn and ridicule and insult them.
Way to go, guys! Yeah, ours is the good side, because sandbox name-calling and “mean tweets.” Yeah.
Tell them Trump hasn’t gone far enough in his so called name calling. I’m here in Virginia and he should have called Youngkin a ‘Pelosi a** kisser’ after that love note he just sent her. Why the heck is he pandering and apologizing to this all in for baby killing creature for some obscure reference he made about her and her husband?
Geez, these Repubs we voted for and trusted are throwing us and Trump under the bus and you are worried about your friends calling you names? Take the slurs as a compliment that you are not as gullible as they are.
So what does “Chinese-sounding name” have to do with WHO Youngkin is, what he’s done, and his ties to the corporations where he gets his funding from?
YOU called out the TRUTH of the matter. WHY couldn’t Trump, plain and simple?
Its hilarious that you keep posting and no one responds to your nonsense. You are a terrible troll. You shouldn’t get paid anything for today’s extremely unsuccessful work. Very poor job by you. Troll better!
Lol
Oh, I got plenty of responses, most just about as rational, witty, and truth-based as yours.
The gist is, anyone at this site who tells the truth and urges OUR SIDE to be BETTER than our enemies is a “troll.” Not exactly scintillating reasoning on your part, is it? Just because you don’t like what I’m saying makes me a “troll,” but you have no rational argument to support your specious name-calling? Why?
I think GrayCat should have your monicker. 😀
Katy, remind them of all the horrendous names they’v/we’ve been called not to mention threats which comes from the very people in the political & corporate club who are funding DeSantis. And make it clear, this isn’t about tit for tat, it’s about waking people the hell up to the fact these puppet masters and thus those they fund become their bought & paid for puppets. They are nothing more than manipulators & liars working against every decent hard working American’s best interest, whereas, Trump is the complete opposite. His conviction lies within building up a strong America for our benefit not the special interests, lobbyists & corp donors.
It’s why they hate, despise, ridicule and conjure up lies about him. They’ll stop at nothing to remove him. It’s not his verbiage that’s offensive or incompatible to these D.C. insiders. We’ve heard far worse from them caught off mic. It’s the fact he’s a threat to their engrained corrupt institutional governing over us they fear losing. The consequences for them is astronomical but freeing for us and they won’t stand for it!
Amazes me how people get so easily sidetracked & offended when Trump’s nicknames a person based on their actions yet overlooks the deceit of the person Trump is trying to point out. And voila, instantaneously the msm gives cover & paints the deceitful ones as the victims when, in fact, those who fall for such bs become the victims
We must all stand our ground and help others with a good dose of reality so they don’t become victims. Good luck!
John McCain is one of the most stellar examples of someone used by the media and other politicians –
then Trump comes along and catches hellfire in July 2015 –
it was glorious and it helped immensely in identifying the “Never Trumpers” – they had fits!
Largely anti-Trump posts made by AI-driven GPT-3 bots. They are generated and designed to target this site’s readers.
Mostly a demoralization tactic perfected in what is called 5th Generation warfare by our intelligence services.
The RINO establishment is throwing lots of money at the moment attempting to weaken Trump’s support among conservatives and his voters through influence operations.
We’ve seen this on other boards before. A serious anti-Trump shilling campaign has been running non-stop on certain other sites I won’t name.
The Treehouse likely has two or three operatives assigned to it now, inserting demoralization and concern trolling posts into the conversation.
It’s foolish to smear anyone who disagrees with any comment as an enemy or a bot or a shill.
While there are undoubtedly such things, there are also those of us who just prefer truth to blindness.
What does it gain to blubber about how anyone who disagrees with a popular point of view must be some sort of evil machine opposition? What does it hurt to actually address the points made, giving anyone new here the opportunity to see the good arguments and points as the reasons you defend them, and the error of the opposition’s? May even add something new and worthwhile to another, even veteran reader’s, quiver of sensible, reasonable, rational, logical, solid arguments for your position.
Let the bots crawl and creep in futility while you expose them for all to see. Otherwise, please, let’s have decent discourse with mutual respect.
LOL! An offended troll!
So true Maquis.
I love a strong alpha male who fights for our side and our Country.
Not only strong alpha males but strong women.
My family is full of both and I am use to people like that, they are dependable and wonderful.
Both of my parents were strong and intelligent as were all four of my grandparents and I am use to people like that.
I do not like weenies, people who are easily pushed around.
I like people who are respectful of others and generous and kind but know their minds.
The USA has been used and abused by the whole wide world for far too long and we need some one who is a straight talker and a straight shooter.
I am sick and tired of weak males and weak females who have sold our country down the river.
There’s nothing weak about insisting that anyone who represents you MUST be worthy of respect and BETTER than the opposition.
It is weakness to allow no difference from the enemy.
So why give them the ground?! Turning away people who otherwise agree with you just because you can’t be decent and behave yourself BETTER THAN THE ENEMY gains you NOTHING but a bad reputation.
To what end?!
Why should we be as indecent as our enemies? Aren’t we supposedly fighting for morality and decency in our society?!
You are quite effective playing that one note.
Over and over.
Its the Holier Than Thou Troll. Not quite as effective as the Concern Troll but better than the Sky Is Falling Troll.
If that were true you wouldn’t have posted that.
“HE IS CALLING PEOPLE NAMES!”
LoLoLoLoLoLoL
Exactamundo!! This isn’t a playground where we cry and go running to the teacher when someone calls us a name. For Pete’s sake. We are talking about saving a nation and the GOPe, RINO’s and Libs are pointing fingers and whining about calling people names. If you can’t take name-calling, how will you handle real adversity!
WE can take it. Because we know it’s stupid and wrong and only shows how impotent and small and immature THEY are.
What’s being objected to is OUR side doing the same thing!
😍
The 2022 version of mean tweets?
LOL
You teach your children in your own home to call other people gratuitous names?
Even Christ warns against that, doesn’t He? Who do we say we are?
Read the Artiacle again….IT is going to get UGlyee, It always gets ugly just prior to Victory. Both sides come to realize that they could lose. Generally, in history, both sides have no moral compass other than ‘Power’. Those currently in control of the American Governmental Structure are the ones who will go for Power through any means. MAGA must maintain its moral, and spiritual base. God gave us this government through the Declaration of Independance, and the Constitution.
Freedom is what we fight for. Not $$$$$$. Freedom for ALL.
The same old playbook, just like January 6, when the going gets tough and republicans need to stand up they loose their backbone and walk away, sit down and shut up! They never fight back! Trump says it like it is, doesn’t back down!
President Trump Won!!!!
Trump has been called more names than the number of years it’s been going on. Election time Sticks and Stones. Trump ought to wait (for what? To speak his mind?) to see how everything plays out? What else is new that’s going to play out differently? Why are ‘the’ Republican backing down? From what? Who? MAGA? Does that make sense? Which faction of Republicans? Weak as water and sly like foxes .. Or is because it’s dawning on RINOS-e that the days are numbered for all on both sides on the SCAM NATION WAGON seductively packaged under the golden goose. “People are complaining all over the place” ..you say. Regurgitating what other people are saying and telling ‘the’ other people elsewhere what they ought or ought not to do. Here’s a dose of ‘right back at you’. Check your facts and do the research – each will takes tomes if you can persevere.
I totally agree. The juvenile insult nicknames directed at other GOP politicians is detrimental. Not only does it turn voters off, it also gives the opposition an easy thing to leverage to get people focused on the superficial instead of the substantial.
I provided an analogy in another thread. When you interview for a job do you act like a total a-hole or do you tone down your personality quirks, stop swearing, and try to be appealing? Most people who receive offers do the latter.
Thank you Serena for seeing it my way. People complaining to me about name calling are actual Trump supporters.
The question is:
-Are they MAGA?
If not, hopefully, they’ll wake up before strife really hits their life.
Also, since they disapprove of name-calling
WHY are they calling you names?
🥹
So, just to make sure the awaken, you strew their paths with feces?!
Since WHEN does MAGA mean you’re no better than the enemy?! Since when does GREAT mean no difference from the enemy?!
That’s the point. We’re BETTER than the enemy, and we DESERVE a BETTER leader to be our statesman and example to see just how bad the enemy is!
Then why don’t you and Serena go cry in a corner together and when it’s time to vote, go vote for the demonrats. Good grief there’s dense and then there is whatever you have.
Knock it off. I’ve been 100% committed to Trump since he announced. I voted for him in the primaries and the generals. I want him to run again and I will vote for him, no question.
But I want him to win! And I know from 2016 and 2020 and right now that Trump has a good message that gets lost as soon as he uses the juvenile insult nicknames, especially against the newly-discovered son of God, DeSantis. There are a lot of potential Trump voters who are totally turned off by the nicknames and the media latches on to them and that’s all you see in the news. Total unforced error on Trump’s part.
That is the thing about President Trump – he is an original
you want to change him into “oh, he is such a nice guy”, then
stab him in the back? You know, like the politicians do?
If he/she is a dirtbag then let President
Trump call them out quickly so we don’t waste OUR valuable
time.
I agree Amjean and appreciate having a candidate who finally calls dirt bags what they are.
Dirt bags.
Is it written down some where that some one running for office has to turn themselves into a weenie beta male who will not call a crook a crook.
I am so far past trying to pretend like the person “on our side” is a good guy or a good gal because they have a R behind their name.
Many of these Republicans are down and dirty criminals and should be locked up for life and Donald Trump is one of the first people we have that says so out loud and in public and we love him for doing so.
George Bush Jr should be in jail for what he did to our country and his goober little brother JEB! Please Clap is not far behind.
Thank Heavens Donald J Trump says out loud what so many people think but do not have the stones to say so because they are afraid to lose the income stream.
Very well said – the whole thing!
Agreed
Do you know how many people claim things like “I’ve been 100% committed to Trump,” yet somehow they totally miss the point of Sundance’s article, and in fact take an opposite view ?
Exactly how long, and on how many comments boards at this site, have you been? If for any length of time beyond once, you’d know the rank ignorance your comment demonstrates.
The people complaining about Trump’s name calling believe that DeSantis is a conservative; they believe that republicans are the good guys.
They are sadly mistaken.
Probably because they are trusting people, good people, who watch propaganda outlets aimed at the conservative voter, such as Fox News, which teaches them what to think.
Because they trust, they become zombies who obey the television. They are legion, as we’ve learned with the useless cloth masks.
If the economy is ever to improve, the DECEPTION inside the Republican party and its corporate-aligned media interests MUST be exposed.
And that involves name calling and other attacks.
The republicans stole the election from President Trump, along with the democrats.
False premise!
You can’t speak for those of us who are tired of the juvenile insult nicknames Trump uses. I’m not offended by them but they are counterproductive. See my other comments about the situation, I don’t feel like repeating myself.
I will vote for him no matter what. But there are a lot of voters who hate when he uses the nicknames and will not vote for him because of it. I personally am only asking him to stop using the nicknames against others in the GOP. They’re unnecessary. He makes legitimate cases against those people, he doesn’t need the juvenile nicknames to make a point. And by not using the nicknames the media will be forced to cover what he actually says instead of honing in on a single word to use against him.
The media homing in on those statements is what forces them to reflexively publish his statements, otherwise they would bury them entirely, they would never cover him fairly and fully.
He forces them to react, and in so doing exposes what he has to say, including the truths within the nicknames themselves.
It’s not at all juvenile. I get what you are saying, Sister, but this is a significant part of how our Champion accomplished so much with so many aligned against him. This is genius level trolling and it works, even if, if not because, it upsets some people.
I love the nicknames as they seem to bring other people out of the woodwork, like some sort of solvent sprayed in the air . . .
my favorite example was quite early on, in July 2015, when Candidate Trump commented that he didn’t like heroes that got captured, referring to John McCain . . . plus he brought up McCain’s low class ranking at the Naval Academy . . .
so, WHY did John McCain get captured?
He disobeyed the flight rules and went to a lower altitude where he was then shot down by the enemy.
Was that McCain’s nature/character to not listen to the rules or was he really that stupid?
We learned here on the Treehouse about John McCain, Adam Kinzinger and Evan McMullin traveling to Syria to help the Founding Fathers of ISIS. So, what was that about, his maverick nature of striking out on his own to blaze a trail? Lapse of judgement in enabling a terroristic entity? Pure lack – not lapse – of judgement? Stupidity?
So the early-on episode over John McCain’s hero status brought out many against Trump, from both sides of the aisle and all over the place. They self-delineated. That’s a term I think just now invented to go with what Sundance says about seeing the strings and now you can’t unsee them. Seeing the connections . .. also seeing the puppet-strings, I think.
Trump throws out a nickname which lights up the landscape.
The DNC and the RNC and the news media say, “here, put these on” and they hand you beer googles.
Trump says, “hey, try THESE” and he hands you a set of infrared-night vision goggles.
Now you can see the figures moving around in the dark.
I would like people to stop the mamby pamby stuff
this is a war we are in for the salvation of our country
please put away your toy guns
Trump is not “most people”. Ordinary people like you and me, yes I get your point. I think. But we must be true to ourselves, no?
When you interview for a job, do you adjust your appearance and behavior? Most people who get offers do. It doesn’t mean you aren’t being true to yourself, it just means you’re trying to be appealing to the people who might hire you.
All Trump needs to do is ditch the juvenile insult nicknames. His communications about DeSantis were great but totally overshadowed by that one nickname he used. Unforced error.
The nicknames are nothing new—good grief….
I like it when he “brands” with a nickname.
People seem to have a tendency to get butt-hurt over the stupidest stuff. Lack of dealing with the “real world ” could be a reason. Immaturity -they were called a name when they were in kindergarten and never got over it?
Either they grow up or get a sense of humor.
And then you have those who have to find something—-anything—to gripe and moan about.
And if the complaints about nicknames are the best they can do……….
They just add to the humor of the nicknames! Watching them go all “splodey heads” is always entertaining.
The election votes/ballots are overrun with fraud; Biden is senile and looking to start
WWII, our economy is tanking, people can’t afford to purchase food or pay their
utility bills
and people are already overly concerned with mean tweets and calling an a$$hole
politician out?
sorry, WWIII lol
Very true Amjean.
I thought the nick name for DeSantis was very funny.
That ad campaign was ridiculous.
The “AND ON THE EIGHT DAY GOD MADE A FIGHTER” was gobsmacking silly.
DeSantis was already ahead and did not need that pandering Moses and
The Bible stuff.
I would have been insulted if I was a Florida voter, still would have voted for the guy but would have been insulted anyway.
Does DeSantis think voters are that dumb, the DeSanctemonius nick name was right on.
I know the people of Florida really like YayRon but those of us out here in the rest of the country are not quite as enamoured of him.
DeSantis needs to dial it back a bit in the Moses Hero worship area.
I already have my real Lord and Savior.
And He is not a politician.
It turns me ON, Baby!
Much better than the mealy-mouthed politicians who simper and pussy-foot around and are more afraid of their shadow than they are concerned about the well-being of our nation.
“Low Energy Jeb” – that was priceless – then Jeb! would exactly look around in a very low-energy manner, like “Momma, he’s picking on me . . . why won’t someone turn off his mike?”
(like his father tried to pull with Ronald Reagan at that debate in 1980)
“I paid for this microphone…!” — Ronaldus Magnus
They are trying to destroy America First by using DeSantis and Youngkin. Should we bury our heads in the sand, while the narrative takes hold and it’s too late to stop it? NO.
No one seems to be doing anything about it though. I feel helpless at this point. DeSantis should come out and set the record straight. Everyone is on edge over these stupid elections , myself included.
For DeSantis to set the record straight, he would have to admit that he is the republican party’s tool to destroy Donald J. Trump.
He would have to admit that he obeys the military industrial complex and the globalist corporations who wish to further destroy the economy of the United States by continuing the SAME ECONOMIC POLICIES that Biden supports.
DeSantis voted for TPP when he was in Congress.
And he is funded by the same corporations who opposed President Trump’s efforts to invigorate the national economy.
These are the same big corporations who supported the lockdown and destruction of small businesses during the covid response.
Now that is a good point Pascal.
DeSantis is a follower.
He will allow his handlers to tell him where to go and what to do.
Donald Trump is one of the very few accomplished doers we have ever had running for office in our country.
Most politicians are party people, they go and do what they are told by the money men.
That is why we love and always will love President Trump.
He is Our President, not Theirs.
He is not the Enemies man.
DeSantis will keep quiet and let PTrump run with his brand of campaigning. So will Youngkin, or anyone wanting to oppose PTrump at this point. They know people will be very sensitive if they attack the Pres. However, they are setting the stage for attacks down the road and loss of support should PTrump run. Bet on them attacking everything he is saying and will say when they decide to declare their candidacy if they do or who they will support in the primary. Right now, I’m guessing they will basically take it and put the insults in their political vault to use later on as per the establishment talking points and orders.
Sorry, but I am in the camp of being a bit cautious on what kind of things are being said. Against Dems, no problem, but against his own party members? People he went to bat for and presumably respected?
It sends a confusing message to his base and many of them might be a bit put off. as you say, people are very on edge over this election right now and about the possibilities of more fraud coming for the next one.
Can he afford to lose support? He must decide himself what kind of campaign he runs of course. He just might have to realize and I’m sure he does, that these kinds of comments will come back around.
It is a different world and a different campaign than in 2016. Adjustments might need to be made to compensate for that. He has always been on top of what works, so I would be surprised if he didn’t do things differently a bit. Nothing stays the same.
Now go ahead and yell at me for not being on the straight and narrow line for PTrump. I have been a supporter of his since he convinced me to be in 2016 as I listened to more and more of what he said. I still am, but can also see where things might have to be adjusted for 2024 and I am convinced he will do it too.
I am not helpless nor on the edge.
Life is difficult and not easy and not one will solve our problems for us.
Not even Trump.
He will help us if we work with him but we must do our part.
I will not let anyone turn me into a helpless, floundering victim that is in need of rescue.
it is just not in my blood or my family to give in or give up.
People are complaining all over – you mean people like you, trolls and bots?
That’s exactly what RINO Tim Scott said–“Let’s see how everthing plays out” regarding the FBI raid on Trump’s FL home, Mar a Lago.
Katy jay, you need to man up.
Or grow a spine.
Rick Scott was always going to back McConnell. I’m sure he was well compensated.
Oh dear me, more mean tweets uh truths. 🙄
Get real.
Oh yeah back-stabbers deserve nothing less.
Not surprised about Scott, I really dislike all the Republican Senators and despise the Democrats.
The name for ronnie fits like a glove – perfect size
What Nonsense
All this trash talk about name calling…
Let me see…everyone got their shorts in a wad when Obama called us ‘bitter clingers” all y’all remember the ‘clinging to guns and bibles’?
Or a “basket full of deplorables”/HRC.
Who f*&^%(G cares??? Not me…bring it on!
Orange Man Unhelpful
President Trump Won
The best IS yet to come
-Hold on 🎼🎷🎺🎹🥁
No, DJT is not helping. Whatever else you want to believe about DeSantis, he takes on the left, fights, wins and gets results, unlike the rest of the “GOP establishment” that he’s supposedly a part of. So Trump resorts to name calling? Sorry, when the target actually has accomplishments under his belt, the name-calling just comes across as adolescent. And DJT’s presidency was not all unicorns farting rainbows. Who enabled the worse of the swamp to impose the poisonous jab on us with “Operation Warpspeed,” which he’s apparently still proud of?
🐷 💩
Your talking points aren’t true and aren’t working. Perhaps, you could try something new later on….
Haven’t seen you before either. The swamp keeps revealing itself.
Well, you see I have a job, so …
please go back to your job
President Donald Trump is not helping the Swamp, he is helping Main Street and the Silent Majority.
So President Trump ought not to have charged the medical community with developing a safe vax against the China virus? The CDC and FDA claimed they were safe.
He did not enable anything but choice and promoted Ivermectin and HCQ.
Many people, including myself, did not know about the extraordinary benefits of these inexpensive therapeutics before President Trump mentioned them.
Yawn.
Well under two bucks a gallon for gasoline, energy independence, fully stocked shelves. 49 billion from China in tariffs.
Remember that in January when the Chinese delegation came to the White House to sign that large farm trade deal. Just before the WuFlu became known. Infect the senior White House officials??
PDJT shut the foreign air travel from infected countries down. With Fauci, Brian, WHO etal fighting tooth and nail for overreach.
They Fauci etal with 30 Pence did their best in killing the strongest economic growth in a long time. They placed the country in lockdown. Attempting to kill Main Street, almost succeeding.
The narrative at the time was vax takes years. Does anyone think that the country in lockdown could survive years of lockdown, Really.
Hence operation warp speed, Get the country out of lockdown. Get the economy moving, save MAIN Street.
Note the jab mandate did NOT come from PDJT.
Who would have believed the infiltration of ALL of our institutions, government etc. When Donald J Trump came down the escalator. Just Saying.
1) “30 Pence”. Love it!
2) “The narrative at the time was vax takes years. Does anyone think that the country in lockdown could survive years of lockdown, Really.
Hence operation warp speed, Get the country out of lockdown. Get the economy moving, save MAIN Street.” You are on target with the reason why President Trump activated Operation Warp Speed.
do you hibernate and them come out swinging
even tho you missed what was going on?
If sanctimonious offends you but special interests, lobbyists and corp donors don’t, then you are the epitome of the swamps target audience.
In regards to the jab, Trump never mandated the jab and still doesn’t; however, the push is on to have schools adopt a mandate for our children courtesy of those I mentioned above.
YOU are the one not helping with such ludicrous drivel.
Calling people names is their argument as to who is being the grownup. I’m finding it hard to defend Trump.
Never seen you before. .strange
I’ve seen Katy jay plenty of times. If you’re not sure do a site search. Just on page 1 of my search results I see her comments from early September.
I’m here plenty of times. Been a fan of the refuge since that little girl from Mississippi got burned to death. Jessica Chambers. This is indeed “The Last Refuge.”
Ohhh, you’ve been coming here almost as long as I have. I first showed up here looking for info about Trayvon Martin, probably March 2012, I think it was about a week after his suicide. The Jessica Chambers murder wasn’t long after that. And I remember the discussions about Chambers here.
She’s been here and she has valid points.
😶
President Trump Won! And will Win Again!! …
Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me”
Lol… Didn’t read your post yet and said the same thing above.
I will still back him 100% but I also want him to win and I’m afraid the juvenile insult nicknames are going to make him lose. He needs to attract more voters. Republicans alone can’t get him elected.
you are obsessed with this; please stop for your own sanity
And ours.
There are soooo many posting on here lately that I would NOT want in my fox hole!! Not the words – it’s their character that comes thru…
Is fragging legal in politics?
That IS politics, n’est-ce pas?
Must be those unmarried, 5 cat owning, young gals the pollsters keep telling us about.
So Trump should sit down & shut up while the republican’t party apparatus anoints “approved” losers, blames him for their failure to put forth a platform or back candidates?
Who said he should sit down and shut up? I say he should just drop the juvenile insult nicknames, and it looks like Katy jay is saying the same thing.
Trump posted a great series of tweets but they were overshadowed by the nickname.
Trump’s branding has been pretty successful at illustrating the nature of his opponents.
He stirs the pot in a fashion that forces many to reveal themselves and many more to take note.
There is a huge full-spectrum narrative engineering project at work here, months if not years in the making, I’ll not join nor reinforce their efforts, which is what I fear this business of suddenly demanding a certain restrained decorum is about.
I posit that most of those “reacting to the name calling” are being prompted to do so, they carry an engineered mind-virus and are too compromised to recognize it; I’ll not hobble Trump to ease their symptoms.
I just feel sorry for them.
I always thought it was the Liberals and Democrats who had no sense of humor.
Whiners, gripers and complainers ……they usually have the symptoms of those afflicted with—no sense of humor.
I like his “branding ” by using nicknames.
I guess because I DO have a sense of humor!
there may be a strategy to his “nicknames”
I find that I might not remember a persons full name
in the political sphere – however, you can bet that I
remember the nickname and the face/state/party
to attach it to.
If it remains silent while President Trump’s home gets raided, if it is owned by the Swamp, and if it plays in a creepy, sanctimonious political ad, then it is a RINO.
I like it!
Love the nicknames.
I think of his nicknames as branding.
Crooked Hillary was a favorite !
When it comes to politics…call it like you see it…instead of “politik double speak”.
Besides….I DO have a sense of humor. Most Liberals/Democrats appear not to have even one funny bone in their body!
I actually feel sorry for those who are upset about nicknames….they are just sad and pitiful.
Crooked Hilary! Low Energy Jeb! Lyin’ Ted Cruz! Ron DeSanctimonious!
Calling us a Basket of Deplorables, A Threat to Democracy, Ultra MAGA, White Supremacists, #1 Domestic Terror Threat is okay but labeling the enemy is juvenile insults which is horrible.
Said in your best “mom” voice.
I have noticed that most of the pearl clutchers that are offended by “juvenile name calling” are women. Women who forget that they themselves are called roaches, fascist, nazis and many other disgusting things on a daily basis. You can’t fight that with civility & good manners. Neither can Trump.
When you strangle yourself with those pearls, be sure to faint in close proximity to a couch.
No MEAN TWEETS!
For the love of GOD! NO NICKNAMES!
Don’t nickname me, Bro!
😁
No one said that at all nor wants or expects it. Understand the narrative before attacking. Sheesh.
“Narrative” “attacking”… 🤔 where have I heard this “narrative” before?
Try “sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.” Something most of us were taught as young children.
It’s not about US being offended. It’s about other people, potential Trump voters, being offended. People who aren’t fully on board with Trump hate when Trump uses the juvenile insult nicknames. And the media leverages them to obliterate his actual message. It’s pointless for Trump to use them, he has a megaphone, people see his communications, if he just stuck with the facts he’d be fine and he wouldn’t turn off voters. He has a legitimate case against DeSantis.
Sorry but if these other people you mention didn’t comprehend all the facts he’s laid out throughout his first campaign to this day, then they probably are loyalists to what the msm feeds them. If we are to believe people are more offended by name calling such as sanctimonious when Hitler has been used by msm, politicians, pundits & celebrities more often than I can count, then they’re more than hypocrites, they’re part of the problem and in all likelihood will never recognize they’re being played.
Are you talking about the 80 million+ that voted for him in 2020 or the 70 million+ (if you believe the steal never happened)?
Just curious who sat on their hands because of Trumps “name calling ”.
What does that even mean in the context of this discussion?
Think of it as
defending
-yourself.
Then don’t. Go to the Swampy GOPe that hate liberty and the middle class.
So don’t worry about it. We don’t vote for two years.
I don;t defend him I just say I agree with them, but I don;t care.
Having been called all kinds of names for years now I have run out
of room on my T-shirt for all my scarlet letters..
Then don’t.
We need not the squishy’s.
Make Americans Laugh Again
Yes! 🙂
With you . . . up to a certain point!
“Um apparently they are trying to get rid of MAGA like they did the Tea Party. I guess we are being bad little boys and girls and need to be made to shutup and sit down. This is truly aggravating. “
and Trump is not helping any.This is the same crap people were saying in 2016… you may not realize this, but playing by traditional Republican ways is not going to get the job done. We need Trump to be even more raucous than in ‘16….we are fighting evil forces here…both R an D wings of the Uniparty vulture.
Dropping the juvenile insult nicknames for other GOP politicians is all he needs to do, IMO. He will still be far from a traditional Republican. He can still make his important points but won’t give voters a reason to hate him and won’t give the media something to latch on to to overshadow his real message. What he wrote about DeSantis is true and important and the DeSantis lovers should be aware of it, but it has been totally overshadowed by that one juvenile insult nickname.
Those pet names are what was by nay sayers
used against him
– at first.
Then , later on,
the pet names
are what taught them to learn and understand…
-and now,
they cannot unKnow what they know.
Agree. As I said, attacking people in the party that he supported and said he respected is more than confusing to supporters and voters. Maybe he has a plan and reason for doing it, but it is off putting for a lot of people who thought he liked these guys.
only with you – the rest of us don’t care
I agree Hilarious. I call her Killery.
Maybe Jeb! will run again and you can vote for him instead of Trump? The people Trump is calling names deserve to be called names.
Jeb! = Ron!
.
Jebra = Ronna
No they don’t deserve to be called names. He makes the legitimate case against DeSantis without calling DeSantis a juvenile insult nickname. When he uses the nickname that’s all people see and they turn off, and the media uses it against Trump.
stop worrying about name calling – worry instead about stolen elections and communism taking over our country – get a grip – we are in a war
The name calling turns off voters. That’s why I’m worried about it. We Trump supporters cannot elect him on our own. We need other Republicans and Independents and maybe even some Dems to vote for him. Trump has legitimate messages with important info but they get overshadowed by the stupid nicknames. And with the GOPes heavily promoting DeSantis now, and the conservative media is all getting on board with that, it’s going to be even harder for Trump to draw in voters. He should at least try to do it. When I interview for a job I try to appeal to the people who are going to hire me …
I’m sure if President Trump could hear your advice he would change his behavior to better suit your concerns.
Only then would he be able to garner 80+ million votes!
Maybe you could write a strongly worded letter?
Well said!
DeSantis is being used to destroy Donald J. Trump and everyone who supports him.
When you go to comedy clubs…do you get offended by the jokes?
President Trump is THE MAGA Leader. Thus is war!!
You don’t win a war by hurling juvenile insult nicknames at your opposition. There are legitimate reasons to reject DeSantis and Trump pointed out some of them, but the nickname instantly caused readers to turn off and be offended, and the media ran with it so now we don’t see Trump’s message, we only see the nickname. Unforced error. I want Trump to stop doing this. It’s stupid!
“Low Energy Jeb” . . . now that was golden.
Crooked Hillary.
Little Marco.
I love his “branding” by using nicknames!
I forgot about Little Marco! Classic.
How many presidential elections have you won? Trump won two and then had one stolen from him. Sorry, I trust his instincts over your feelings.
If he keeps attacking DeSantis with juvenile insult nicknames then don’t be surprised if Trump loses in 2024.
If he stops using the nicknames against others in the GOP, he’ll have a better chance of winning. I don’t know why you would be against increasing his chance of winning.
Joining the throng of the narrative-engineered isn’t helping him either.
He has to do more than simply win a popularity contest.
He is dealing with a culmination of numerous plots including the Communist Conspiracy which have come to such a head that the very existence of humanity is at stake and is an actual target for destruction, the Cabal is real, DeSantis knelt to it, he represents an existential threat to MAGA which is the only thing that can save this nation and put the entire globe back on an even keel.
He knows this. It will get ugly. Including an occasional nickname. I will happily endure the shame of being called a meanie for having the temerity to want to save the world.
Also, Sundance has pointed out that we could increase our “voters” exponentially and still not succeed. Because increasing voters does not equate to increasing ballots.
Its fine to have an opinion. Its the height of hubris to think your opinion about something you’ve never done is somehow better than the opinion of someone who has actually won the presidency twice (if not for election fraud). You have nothing to support your opinion but your thoughts and feelings while Trump has actual proof that his way works.
your postings are stuck on the same track
you must have a scratch
You had me until you blurted your last sentence.
he is the biggest help of all! Dont kid yourself
I’m gonna try this again…. first effort was pinned to incorrect post…
Being “nice” doesn’t work! “Compromise” does not work! “Reaching across the isle” does not work. And especially “Bipartisan” does not work! “Bi” suggest there is two of something. As it is right at this moment that is a pipe dream or a crack pipe hallucination. It’s folks like you that simply don’t get it. “They” could care less what you call them or how you treat them – “They” are only interested in slitting your throat(figuratively speaking) – I think. Soooo… if you were in PDJT’s shoes – show/tell us how you would respond to the the Desantis debacle. Get your point across but be nice now – ya’ hear… Some folks nev’a learn…
Trump doesn’t need to be “nice” and doesn’t need to “compromise”. He just needs to try to win votes, that’s all. He needs to be appealing to a sufficient number of voters in order to be elected.
When you interview for a job do you try to be appealing to the people who are going to hire you? I do.
Trump don’t! LOL….
Ah……
He has been doing this even before he went down the escalator…..
And he won the Presidential election—TWICE.!!!
He got the job-TWICE!!!
I really don’t think he needs to kiss azz and be nice to win again.
If he changed what he has always done…..
Then he would be called out as a Fake.
We have enough Fakes and Backstabbers in politics.
Frankly, before he can win votes he has to crush a lot of schemes and now apparently a full-court press to weaponize our niceness against us.
When the wicked seek to turn our Christian ideals upon us as a tool to manipulate us do we do ourselves and our progeny any favors by apologizing and seeking forgiveness from our abuser?
How could we when we know there is no sincerity in their appeals, and that their end is our end?
I GET the feelings part, but I KNOW they, those who not only call us the most vile names but actually are seeking our literal destruction, are weaponizing those feelings to destroy our Champion.
I do not see this as an organic response of right-minded people, I see this as an intense propaganda campaign that some of even our best fighters have fallen prey to, who in full sincerity are spreading even though they do not themselves intend injury to our cause.
Imposing a Code of Conduct on our Champion serves the enemies of humanity well.
I can assure you that all too many that thank Veterans this day for their service would be greatly offended by what that service actually often entailed if they were to witness it, or would even if our enemies endlessly promoted the idea that our fighters actually took lives and are thereby no heroes.
We are watching the sausage of history being made, it ain’t pretty, but it tastes great!
I’m stealing every word of this and sending it to everyone I know!
😉
OCD IS THAT YOU ?
May be a tad late to this party but… After hearing some of the stuff Trump is reportedly, allegedly, supposedly saying/said I’m going to have to agree with your comments. It’s one thing to state the truth in an not so elegant manner. It’s something else to just out and out lie without a shred of truth supporting your statements. I will still vote for him but I agree folks on the fence will probably tend not to, and I understand why. Sad.
I want Trump to run and win, he’s just turning away voters and may lose.
We’ve all seen a minimum of 7 years “TRUMP”. If, in that window of time, folks are still hung up on personality and can some how totally disregard the 4 years of performance. God Bless’em. He’s going to need to because they’re gonna need all the help they can get. If they’re not smart enough to clearly see the damage the alternative(s) will do – what can be said. I submit that if fair elections, and valid votes properly tallied, you’d see just exactly how much support Trump actually has in spite of or because of his personality.
He’s turning away voters two years from now? You may want to chill out a bit or you’re gonna have a very difficult time for the next two years.
coming out of the woodwork to create chaos? not working
ouch
Check out the poll over at Rantingly.com. Trump is beating ron handedly and the gap is widening.
https://rantingly.com/
Every time I go to Rantingly the Malwarebytes program kicks into high gear; think it’s because of whatever advertising company they are hooked up with, keeps on blocking the site due to something it identifies as ‘riskware’;
mentioning it so people have their antivirus and anti-malware programs updated and running when visiting that site!
You might want to give the search engine ‘Brave’ a trial run. No problems like this with them and the hundreds of sites I’ve been to. They also protect your privacy
I think Bessie is saying that the Rantingly site triggers her anti-virus. I wouldn’t visit it either.
Yes, that’s what I was referring to, the Rantingly site.
Thank you for pointing us to rantingly.com!
Are the poll only of people that use that website/app? If so, that doesnt mean much.
Yes! So let us ALL stop being sucked in by the Establishment Lies.
Rantingly isn’t a valid pollster. It’s just a news aggregator like Drudge. Useless poll.
So you’re saying the Drudge Poll from 2016 that had trump win each primary. Win the nomination then beat the Dem Hillary Clinton is/was useless.
The Drudge polls were also not valid polls. I know because I used to vote multiple times in them. 🙂
Outstanding. I’m in. Carry on.
Each person can assess how they buy the enemy bombs, bullets and bioweapons to kill us with…
Work for a corporation? You likely are funding the enemy, particularly if that corporation is one of the global ones.
Buy products and/or services from same? Yup, they thank you.
Pay taxes? Same
Invest in the financial schemes of Big Financial? Yup
Supplicate to the Communist’s corrupt judicial and law enforcement systems? They love you.
I see this as more of a fight between good and evil than any specific political ‘parties’. We have a lot of power. They know it. Perhaps many of us don’t realize how much power we have. That works against us. We’re easier to manipulate and inspire fear in. Lately we’ve seen some of that in the manufactured Trump v RDS conflict. Manipulation, gaslighting, inciting fear.
They are the disease and we are the cure. Make a choice.
“The disease of liberty is catching.”
–Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1820
Jefferson going viral well before there was an internet.
The problem isn’t The Donald, it’s McCarthy/McConnell and their elite masters and fellow travellers.
Bingo! Good analysis.
If you are going to take the RNC, Take the RNC!
Likely, the FBI will find someone to play this part.
This article about Josh Hawley tells it all. Mitch and Kevin McCarthy put the idea out there about cutting social security and medicare. That gave Biden plenty of room to pounce.
That would mean a substantial decrease in Republican voters. In 2012, when I was still a democrat, I voted for Obama over Romney because of social security and medicare. And I couldn’t stand Obama.
Check this out: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/11/josh_hawley_blasts_gop_leadership_for_midterm_losses_148459.html
Graham and Pence to amplify the abortion issue.
Yeah I couldn’t believe that one. Of all people Miss Lindsay gets involved in the abortion issue? Puuulease! Pence I never liked, that was a serious Trump mistake. You want sanctimonious, take Pence.
Would we have ever known how treacherous 30 Pence was if he hadn’t been VP?
I wish those AWFL voters would realize that neither “side” of the aisle cares one thing about abortion beyond its ability to get them to the polls and vote for quote-unquote reproductive rights.
Everyone is a victim (or potential victim) and therefore, excused from caring about economic or foreign policy… things that impact them every single day of their lives.
I wonder if these same folks championing abortion are going to tune in to Peacock’s Casey Anthony interview? She aborted her kid, too, just a couple of years after she was born. Sympathetic figure or monster?
delaying the inevitable non-white collapse of the welfare state
Republicans did not go into November completely without a plan. The party just didn’t have an official one. Florida Sen. Rick Scott released a 60-page “11-point plan to rescue America” that offered 128 proposals. One of those proposals was to sunset all federal programs. Scott reasoned that “if a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again.”
There was no caveat that would’ve spared Social Security or Medicare. The White House pounced. Even though the plan was not an official document, Biden hammered it like it was party orthodoxy and claimed that Republicans wanted to cut the popular programs. And when previewing a looming showdown over spending, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy in October would not rule out changes to entitlement such as Medicare and Social Security as part of those negotiations.
Hawley pronounced that kind of talk “nuts.”
“This does not address any of the felt concerns of voters, particularly voters who are struggling economically, who are struggling with rising prices, who have paid into those systems, by the way, with their wages, their entire working lives,” he said.
“I don’t understand why in the world Republicans would say ‘Oh, yeah, let’s first when we get back to the majority, let’s go fiddle with those programs that you’ve paid into, and that you are going to depend on for your livelihood in retirement.’ I think it’s nuts,” he added.
Hawley took issue in particular with an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal by Sen. Mitt Romney arguing that it was time for Republicans to get serious about excessive spending, including “nondiscretionary spending on entitlements, such as Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid, and on servicing the debt.”
A better platform, Hawley argued, would’ve been for Republicans to run on things like “tougher tariffs on China, reshoring American jobs, opening up American energy full throttle, and putting 100,000 new cops on the street.”
Hawley is so right.
I was unaware of the Romney Op-Ed. What an ass he is! You don’t threaten middle class and lower class people with a plan to cut Medicare, Social Security, or Medicaid! Romney can easily live off of his savings, most people aren’t so lucky.
Mitch funneling 6 mil to Murkowski was not a good look.
Not sure if a Scott Senate leadership would be better than Thune or not.
The whole thing soup to nuts is ‘the big ugly’. Everything. We are living in scam-nation, the corruption across the board is incredible and if it doesn’t collapse this nation, it’ll be a miracle. Yes we are in the fight we have no choice. Fight or die or be enslaved.
“It’s a con job.” – OMG
Build Rackets Better
I don’t disagree with any of this… and yet, the end result will almost certainly be Gavin Newsome as president, and the march toward fascism will accelerate significantly.
We will have to decide if thats what we want.
If the democrats cheat again you’ll get that no matter who runs.
EX-CA here….you don’t want Newsom anywhere near DC. Or any other CA lawmaker at all.
Kin to Fancy Nancy. Will there be anything left to fleece?
An even bigger ice cream fridge!
Agree. But you surely don’t want DC – it needs to be disbanded first and foremost.
We passed fascism a long time ago, we’re trying communism now.
Did you watch the last rally? Build Con-munists Better.
“The bureaucracy is the state.” – Mussolini
“Freedom of speech?! We are not going to commit suicide.” – Lenin
PA just elected a full on communist with a damaged brain to go along with it. Not even a blink about doing so and even a media recommendation this guy be considered presidential material. The complete bizarre nature of the left is beyond comprehension by normal people. Yet, there are many who think it’s all wonderful and vote for it all.
They did not elect him.
We need to Decide NOW!,,,,putting off decisions makes you ineffective.
Miracle on Ice, Part 2.
In the 1980 Olympics, the USA Men’s Ice Hockey team was made up of young amateur scrapper kids. They were recent college players from various Northeast and Midwest colleges. Most never played together before other than a few from the same colleges.
The Soviet team was made up of older more seasoned professional players. Their team had been playing together for years. They were feared. They were the team no one could beat.
As we all know, Team USA beat the Soviets in the semi-final game. They then went on to win in the finals to secure the Olympic Gold medal. No one remembers who Team USA beat in the finals to secure Gold. Everyone just remembers them beating the Big Bad Soviets in the semi-finals.
Similar to this 1980 Team USA, the big game will be played in the semi-finals beating the Big Club.
USA, USA, USA!!!
That was glorious.
What a great feeling – I just need to go to that in my memory and it is always there.
Yes. that was epic! The movie is good too.
Stars Kurt Russell: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349825/?ref_=ttls_li_tt
MAGA vs. Big Club
Finland. I remembered and have never forgotten that.
It was always going to come to this, the more clearly we could see the alliances, the betrayals, and the gaslighting of the MAGA crowd by the establishment cabal.
Five years from now, in 2027, what will we wish, looking back, that we had done now in 2022?
Let’s not live with big regrets.
Patriots, be sure and forward this article to everyone you know.
We need people to fully comprehend what’s going on.
As Melania said to then citizen Trump, “ You know you’ll win. “ And he did.
Prayers up and we’ll win this one too.
Uniparty only attacks when it’s losing.
We already won. Pass it on.
Fake Hate Late Again…
The Uniparty NEEDS You To Believe There Was No Trump-Led Red Wave. It’s a Lie. And Here’s Why (And How) They’re Doing It…
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/11/10/dr-gina-the-uniparty-needs-you-to-believe-there-was-no-trump-led-red-wave-its-a-lie-and-heres-why-and-how-theyre-doing-it/
They did the same thing to Gov. Sarah Palin that they did to President Trump. McConnell financed RINO Murkowski instead of her challenger who was much more aligned with voters. This article is spot on. They don’t care about us so we may as well keep going our own way. Just like George Washington.
I believe Sundance is right about one very important matter: the obscene amount of money in US elections and the amount of influence/benefit this buys. This is legalized bribery. This is corruption that destroys good government. The day politicians have salaries in line with the average American, have term limits, have strict limits on the amount of money that can be spent on campaigns, have to rely on volunteers to get their manifesto from door to door, is the day voting will be cleaned up.
The wicked accepts a bribe in secret to pervert the ways of justice. Proverbs 17:23
a bribe corrupts the heart Ecclesiastes 7:7
Constituional Amendement”
One Man One Vote decision says it all.
One Man One Vote One Dollar. If you can vote for a candidate, you can donate to him. If you cannot vote for him, you cannot give him money.
No.
Glowie?
I posted this on the wrong thread, but then I realized something BIG:
This is what Uniparty Inc. or GOPe is trying to do to the MAGA movement.
Stand at it’s head and claim that their standard of reality is the way forward, and trying to make the rest of us irrelevant.
No, no, and HELL no.
The BIG UGLY, indeed.
Now, now… beauty is only skin deep, zephyrbreeze… but in this case, I’m gonna hafta agree with you… she fugly, yo…
there isn’t an elephant in the room syndrome
The things that demons see as “beautiful”.
Is that Jabba The Merman?
The women are part of the problem. Pictures of weak women standing around and smiling while a man takes the prize doesn’t help the situation .
Shame that men aren’t protecting them though, n’est-ce pas?
Shall we tell the girls to suck it up and fight the brutes that beset them?
Transanity is threatening them on many fronts, they can’t jump into that fray alone.
I don’t believe “The Big Ugly” will ever happen. No one wants President Trump around in 2024 except us We The People, we America Firsters! The Democrats, deep state, IC, the Uniparty, RINOS, Federal Judges, everyone in DC and the Republicans DeceptiCons in the Senate will all collude to make sure President Trump is ineligible for 2024. The Revised Big Ugly will be between DeSantis, Pompeo, Haley, Pence and any other GOPe candidates who want to get to get some campaign cash!! I pray I’m wrong but the last thing that is wanted by those in power in America and probably world wide is President Trump on campaign trail in 2024! Thank you Sundance! Godspeed Sundance and President Trump!
Give it 2 more years of FJB and then we’ll see if those that fear the vocabulary of Trump, change their mind!
*THIS*!!!!!
The Club without PDJT would never have the temerity, insight, courage, nor care, to fight in a fashion that might upset and expose their big ugly game.
CUT THE CORD!!!! STARVE THE BEASTS
There’s more of us than theee are of them
I used to believe that also but it looks now like they have more ballots than there are of us!!
I liken the uniparty/deep state trying to separate us from Trump like they want to separate us from our guns.
I agree with Sundance; however, should we win the day, where will the money come from to run our campaigns. It is obvious the MAGA folks are unwilling to pony it up. If it doesn’t come from corporations, then where?
I am going to play devil’s advocate here. Mitch McConnell would say if you look at the results, the more moderate candidates vastly outperformed the more conservative candidates. He would also say that he donated $215 million to all candidates, including JD Vance, Masters, Walker, etc. In regards to the money for Murkowski, that deal was cut long ago for her support on Trump’s Supreme Court justices.
His late contributions was nothing but cover for his real agenda, of remaining in his power spot.
Trump and other MAGA candidates get massive amounts of money through small donations. Your statement is incorrect.
The good thing is Trump has his own social media now and the media seems eager to cover it.
Truth Social should open up all of Trump’s posts to the public, so that people don’t need to sign up to see them.
I actually wanted him to buy a news network so we have a real source of news on TV.
MAGA will collect more donations from the small donors to the billionaires.
Not all billionaires want to see the country destroyed
Watch the media and political personalities go into overdrive to convince We the People to stop supporting any politician that is with the People. Trump arrived in time to pull back the curtain on the charade of the Uni-party. The globalists need to destroy independent thought as well as independent people (farmers, self employed, etc.) so they can convince us to support destructive policies that increase dependence on big government and big corporations. This is what covid was all about: destruction of independence. We must fight back or become slaves. This is not about Trump and ALL about freedom for We the People!
Matt walsh tweeted the following, and I agree there needs to be more proof that DeSantis is a shill for Wall Street than the mere assertion or a few people supporting him: “ DeSantis went after Disney. He took on the trans agenda. He shipped illegals to Martha’s Vineyard. He defied Fauci. If you think he’s establishment then you truly have absolutely no idea what the establishment is, how it operates, or what it wants. You are just clueless.”
Just how many did he ship to Martha’s Vineyard??? A TOKEN FEW, for the headlines. Then stopped. Count me out on De Santis…
Totally agree!
Love of PDJT is not the same thing as being MAGA.
We can love both PDJT and DeSantis at the same time.
If you are a Florida resident, maybe. But otherwise, NO.
Wrong. DeSantis is not MAGA. Multi-National corporations do not financially support MAGA in any way.
RDS may be presidential material somewhere down the line, but not in 2024.
please! never!
No we can’t. Can you love Brutus and Caesar both?
Trump is MAGA, DeSantis voted for the TPP and didn’t utter but a weak tweet at the FBI raid.
Trump is funded primarily by small donors, DeSantis by large donors, one of whom is already announcing he’ll be the next Treasury Sec’y.
No equivalence.
Desantis will go GOPe in a nanosecond the minute he announces he’s running for the Presidency. You need only look at who is supporting him financially and politically to understand that.
I like everything he has done for Florida. And it’s polished his credentials as being for the citizens of Florida and not the corporations that reside in the state nor the leftists trying to impose their will upon the citizens of Florida. Can’t and won’t take that away from him. But it’s apparent to me that he will turn on a dime the minute that he throws his hat in the ring. And that will be a sad day for Florida, as they will lose their biggest advocate and most likely leave a power void not easily filled.
Took DeSan a full week to opine about the FBI invasion of Mar a Lago. Why? Was he waiting for his talking points?
I suspect he got a call from Big Donor Inc to let him know if he had Presidential ambitions, he had better watch his Ps and Qs regarding the raid and anything Trump going forward. $200 million for a Governor campaign is a bit over the top.
He came out of the bunker a week later with a new campaign team, a nationwide rollout including Top Goof, and many more indications that Sundance has illumined.
It wasn’t a simple call, it was planned and coordinated, especially his silence and inaction regarding Mar A Lago; he wasn’t alone in that bunker…
Maybe he is taking their money and then will do what he wants with it. What would they do then? Does the money have legal ties that make him or any candidate have to adhere to whatever the donor says he has to do? I never heard that any campaign donations are required to be used as by the candidate as the donor says.
So, does the candidate HAVE to use the money donated in the way the donor wants or are they free to do what they choose with it?
DeSantis did not bring us here, he voted for the TPP. One thing that might help people understand, is that if Trump loses the Independence of United States is over. Try to picture the UN blue helmet on every politician Corporatism is pitching you. DeSantis didn’t come from the people, he isn’t funded by the people It took Trump’s assistance for DeSantis barely beat Andrew Gillum and I’ll spare you the pictures of Mr. Gillum.
FRDS
I’ve seen more than enough to be satisfied that he’s playing on Team McConnell
Wrong……The Establishment will allow a certain amount of criticism, and defiant reactive acts, when they know that person is really on their side. They never attack the GOP establishment in the Senate.
Do you think McCarthy would have been re-elected in California if he was unacceptable to the Ruling Class.
Mar-A-Lago.
RD did the right things for FL as Gov, that is why he got another 4 years as Gov.
He needs do respect the voters of FL and keep doing the right things for FL.
If he wants to move his young family to the DC swamp, take out Rick Scott.
Go back and see DeSantis vote for Fast Track status for TPP and square that with what the RINO Establishment position is on trade. They are perfectly aligned which is why Ron is getting funded by the big Multi National Corporations.
Was he ever asked about that vote and why he made it? I never heard any of his comments on that. Was he ever asked about mar a Lago and why he didn’t make more of it? Never heard much about that either.
Weird isn’t it? Almost like he doesn’t want to talk about those things. He’s on tv enough that he certainly could. I saw him on Fox just the other night. He didn’t give any explanation for why he wanted to give away American jobs and autonomy through TPP and no one at Fox asked him. So weird.
I say shouting loudly…Florida did not defy Fauci. That is fake news! FL shut down and other states never shut down or opened earlier. FL arrested people for being on the beach, had contact tracers and checkpoints on the roads.
The MV thing was ridiculous and completely lacking in substance. What exactly did it accomplish? Illegals are still pouring in this country every day.
Ron voted for TPP which cedes our sovereignty. How’s that for proof? Also, his benefactor is on record saying he wants to purge America First from the GOP.
PS Matt Walsh is a Never Trumper
We get it. You hate Ron DeSantis. Carry on.
No, I am not overly emotional like others. I don’t hate DeSantis. I recognize facts and see reality.
Matt Walsh is smart when it comes to cultural issues; political issues, not so much.
So do you think that the Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, Lincoln Project endorsement and now Ken Griffin financial backing make him anti establishment? Or do you think these people just want to divide us?
Who knows really. What do you think?
That was great for Florida to line their coffers with.
Good thing President Trump carried DeSantis over the finish line as the disaster Gillum was gaining ground to defeat DeSantis.
“ DeSantis went after Disney. He took on the trans agenda. He shipped illegals to Martha’s Vineyard. He defied Fauci. If you think he’s establishment then you truly have absolutely no idea what the establishment is, how it operates, or what it wants. You are just clueless.”
Token efforts to gain the allegiance of the conservative voter.
Con artists ALWAYS do good things to gain people’s confidence.
That’s why they are called “con artists.” Con for confidence.
Cult leaders do this, too.
The cult leader of a prominent UFO cult donated his bone marrow to a girl dying of cancer. He actually did this. It was his proof that he was a good person.
His followers always reminded themselves: he gave his bone marrow to a stranger. This man is good. We can trust him.
Then he had sex with his followers and stole all their money.
DeSantis is funded by the same globalist corporations who oppose all of President Trump’s America First economic policies.
He went to San Antonio Texas and paid big bucks to fly about 48 invaders to MV from San Antonio. Then the Citadel guy and the legal challenges shut it down.
Matt Walsh is anti-Trump. That’s what you need to know.
How about 96% of his campaign donations were from corporations or mega donors, not we the people
He supported fast tracking TTP, hinted at supporting Red Flag laws, the state of Florida can still force vaccination & quarantine.
TPP
I enthusiastically voted for President Trump in 2016 and 2020. Now I’m looking at the possibility of voting for him again in 2024, but I have some qualifications this time. My hesitance involves the absolute failure he showed in picking his cabinet and advisors in 2017, most of whom undermined his administration and probably his ability to be re-elected in 2020. Just look at the examples – – Pence, Jared and Ivanka, Sessions, Kelly, Tillerson, Mattis, McMaster, Chao, DeVos, Mnuchin, … . need I say more? Oh yea, he picked Barr, Wray, Bolton, and Milley, each of whom stabbed him in the back. And he allowed the likes of Fauci and Birks to undermine him during the pandemic. His continuing high fiving on the vaccine are also troublesome. Next time, I’ll need some assurances on who will be a part of his administration before I vote for Trump. A president can only do so much and, if he surrounds himself with RINOs and moderate democrats, then the MAGA agenda is nothing more than a talking point. By the way, I’d like to keep DeSantis as Governor for the next 4 years.
Me too, and if he doesn’t or doesn’t start showing better judgement, DeSantis has a proven MAGA track record. DeSantis realized his mistake following the Trump lockdown and went the other way.
Trump never reversed course.
That’s why these attacks on DeSantis seem unhinged. Would he be as good on trade as Trump? Who knows? Maybe or even probably not.
But would Trump put us under another lockdown and bio-medical authoritarianism? He did before, and unless he convinces me he’s learned his lesson, why should I or anyone be convinced he won’t do it again?
DeSantis is absolutely NOT MAGA. Not anymore
President Trump Won!!!
As I recall, the lockdown was only to slow the curve not to overload the hospitals. It was suppose to be temporary. With it being reported everywhere that people were dying and hospitals could not handle the loads, what else could he do. He would have immediately been impeached and removed for not following his on task force recommendations while deaths exploded in our country.
He was one of the first to say we need to start opening up, but many governors refused. He was criticized for that and criticized for not advocating wearing masks and criticized for not taking the pandemic seriously. This while the media kept reporting deaths skyrocketing.
Medical experts around the world claimed 100M people could die if countries did not take drastic steps. And you think he could just say go pound sand we are not going to follow their recommendations.
DeSantis got criticized too, but not even close to Trump. And Trump said it was the states decision based on their situation and recommended they open up asap.
Exactly and DeSantis was doing the same with FL. He reversed course fairly quickly when he realized it was bad info on Covid and counter productive for his state. No one was sure of anything about Covid in the early going. Shutdowns were supposed to be short term. States had the choice to do what they thought was best. FL has a huge population of seniors who were dying in record numbers all over the country, so they had to be protected. FL opened back up when all the info was looked at and the best decisions could be made. I’d take what FL did versus what we had and still have going on in NYS any day.
Removing checkpoints in almost August is not reversing course quickly.
The truth William is this, Mitch ran the show and will continue to run the show until the folks in Kentucky kick him to the curb. President Trump tried to work with him even having his useless wife in his administration. The fault lies in the Republican Senate, not one would call a recess so President Trump could at least appoint some of his own people.
I do believe that Mitch was very close to removing President Trump and that is why he laid very low his last few weeks in office. Unless someone else replaces Mitch I do not think President Trump should run again because nothing will change.
If the people choose Desantis for President Mitch will tell him who his cabinet will be, he controls the Republicans in DC.
As far as the lockdown was concerned President Trump was told by the medical and research community that 20 million Americans would die if he did not at least try to slow the spread and prepare the hospitals for the onslaught. I also believe he knew it was a biological weapon and the outcome was unknown. He was in a no win situation.
Still with the needless lockdown nonsense?
Anyone in his position would have done the same. He had no choice.
All the experts, all his advisors, almost all the nations around the world went into lockdown mode to stop the global pandemic from spreading and to prevent the extinction of the human species.
Wanna hold a grudge against someone? Blame the Chicoms who started it!
He had no choice? He was the President of the United States. The most powerful human being on the planet, and he had no choice? Who is Tony Fauci; just a lifetime bureaucrat with a history of screwups. Look at his history during the AIDS crisis of the 1980’s. He should never have agreed to the two weeks to slow the spread, and told them to come up with a plan B. Shutting down the economy for even a minute should never have been an option. There were many other things he could have done, and ordered to be done that would have been more effective. He didn’t. He owns it. He did many great things. His response to COVID is not one of them.
get your facts straight and get back to us
He didn’t pick Fauci…he was a tenured career federal employee. Couldn’t fire him, either.
And the other laundry list …. where could Trump go to get appoint-able/Senate confirmable people for all those positions? Use Democrats? Random people off the street?
All considered, he actually did a exceptional job.
Didn’t say he picked Fauci, but he let him run things. Also, the Senate was controlled by the Republicans when he chose those people. Random people off the street would have been better. I agree he was an exceptional President, but his administration was not.
he let him run things – really? Do yourself a favor and research how government works.
Agree except for him still praising the shots even with all the problems with them harming people, a lot of people and especially young people who could have gotten over the virus quite well.
During the debate between Crist and DeSantis, DeSantis was flummoxed by Crist’s question about would he (DeS) serve the full term as FL gov if elected. Makes me think he’s planning to run for Prez if given the order by the moneymen.
Those picks required Senate confirmation. Senator McConnell chose them.
And Senator McConnell works for the globalist corporations and military industrial complex.
Normada, are you requiring cabinet picks in advance from anyone else you might vote for? 🙂
No, just going by previous experience
YOU have qualifications for President Trump! Well, you just get right on that and send him a letter.
He was re-elected in 2020.
You know, maybe it’s time to start thinking about Christmas presents for all of these traitors……let the creativity begin! Copies of of the Biden Laptop Report from Marco Polo, vials of (something) from a lab in Ukraine, you get the idea. Feel free to add to the list. 😎🎄😉
Transcripts of the perfect phone call?
Ha! I like it!👌🏼
A framed signed copy of PDJT’s SOU address for Nancy, as her Christmas/retirement gift
Thank you Sundance !!!
MAGA VS RINO Big Ugly.
BALLOT vs VOTE Theft.
DeSantis was more MAGA than Trump and his Fauci led team.
DeSantis was losing 1st time around until Trump swooped into Florida to help him … DeSantis noticed the huuuge support he got from pro-MAGA Floridians … and played along … the RINOS despondent at Trumps continued popularity – noticed DeSantis MAGA successes … the RINOS swooped down on DeSantis- filled his war chest with $200million+ and gave his a new RINO Team – and BOOM … magaLITE 2024 was announced along with the “god” commercial.
The RINOS are using DeSantis and will destroy him while trying to destroy Trump.
Richard Cranium…no.
Give it up
Blah Blah Blah
😂 that’s laughable
Besides the fact that a good number of the GOPe is backing DeSantis, exactly what has he done to cause angst among MAGA patriots about his potential candidacy?
Opposing PDJT or not being supportive enough of PDJT is not sufficient. What has he done as governor or stated as goals that are not MAGA?
Follow the money. Also, he is just another zionist stooge (Same could be said for most presidents in modern time). Can you not see his trajectory from the beginning? Desantis was planned for quite some time. Military service, congressman, gov of big state, Pres. All scripted. Ron went to Israel and kissed the ring and made love to the wall like all the others.
Well for one he is now fully supported by the Multi-National Corporations and the Establishment with their support conditioned on a global aligned Chamber of Commerce trade policies that will continue the destruction of middle class jobs in this country.
Which just happens to peak my interest on DeSantis and his voting record in Congress. And that record is in perfect alignment with the Establishment RINO position of big corporate America. See his vote for fast track status for TPP which not only was a threat to American sovereignty but it was a sell out to green nut crowd. A Marxist move if there ever was one.
Voting for TPP, which cedes our sovereignty is not MAGA. MAGA is economic nationalism. He strongly supports red flag laws.
You already know that and many other reasons, because Sundance and others have listed them ad nauseum.
Well, for one thing he was silent when Federal Jackboots raided the personal residence of a former president and current citizen of his state. It apparently didn’t bother him in the least.
And THAT, my friend, is something we will never forget.
You should read some of the articles on this website.
Good question. The answers will be interesting.
I think what truly amazes me is after showing how corrupt, treacherous, immoral, and traitorous those in power really are, many people who fear and complain about the future of our nation, STILL CHOOSE to turn a blind eye, so as to keep alive their fantasy and illusion of a perfect champion coming to rescue them. They willingly condemn the only fighter who WANTS to sacrifice for their cause, all because he says “mean and unprofessional things”. I guess Christian forgiveness is something you practice just to look socially acceptable at the appropriate time.
DeSantis isnt perfect, but PDJT is simply damaging his own ability to win 2024. These personal attacks and continued nonsense about how little people are valuing him or staying loyal are the actions of a 10 year old crybaby LOSER, not the champion he was in 2016 or 2020.
If he cannot control himself, he needs to be rejected. His own behavior as president is what caused many swing voters to reject him in 2020. He isnt providing much evidence that he has learned a thing.
Eye roll. A full blown coordinated assault on Trump by the RINO’s and their complicit Media before the votes have even been counted, and some people just choose to be blind and dumb. You act like Trump started this.
Oh …. you’d like Trump to be controlled eh? Is that right?
Sounds like Fox concerns to me.
It’s called self discipline.
He won in 2020. Your statements are the same ones that the pearl clutchers and Never Trumpers/Cruzbots used in 2016.
you again
Albert, I disagree.
Ron Desantis owes President Trump a tremendous debt of gratitude for getting him where he is today. Ron Desantis couldn’t do it on his own. So to have someone stab you in the back publicly and act like everything is fine and that you’re innocent, well…I’m sorry, but the REAL definition of childishness comes from Ron Desantis. Your confession through projection is pretty obvious.
If Trump’s own behavior is what causes many swing voters to reject him in 2020, then how is it that he got more popular votes in 2020 than he did in 2016?
I have to wonder how many of the recent posts I’m seeing here about folks “reluctance and concerns going forward” regarding a third run by President Trump are really MAGA folks willing to stick to their guns when the fighting gets fierce. Because as I see it as of this last election, it’s going to get worse before we see real change for the better.
And all the chatter on the Propaganda Parrot Media Talk Show Circuit by the so called leaders and pundits of the GOP Establishment Propaganda Committee about how it’s time to shift away from President Trump and MAGA indicates that maybe they haven’t found a clear path to stopping him from running again.
All I know is that for our household, we ain’t baking down.
Woof!!
Totally agree! This is a well planned and orchestrated event to take Trump down. The Establishment do not care about our country IMO. The Red Wave was overhyped and the Republican leaders and RNC along with the individual candidates are the ones responsible to win elections. Trump worked his tail off to bring visibility and support for many candidates. He had tens of thousands of people at his rallies to support candidates.
Republican leadership was nowhere to be found in the elections.
And the sleazy political weasels want to blame Trump. All planned and being carried out now.
He has to fight, we have to hold firm in our support to stop any momentum to stop him from
running.
you can take it to the bank that they aren’t MAGA
I think a lot of them only came aboard the Trump train when he was the last man standing against Hillary. They voted for someone else in the primary and have always been reluctant Trump supporters. They’ll be back after Trump dispatches DeSantis in the primary.
lol. backing down. Although the missus has been baking a lot lately. 😛
Me neither
The dynamic between RD and Rubio will be interesting to watch. Rubio and Hawley already pushing back against the Senate GOP. I know, I know it is Rubio, but DeSantis could push Rubio further MAGA
Would be a remarkable blessing to see Marco Rubio as Senate Majority Leader, MAGA – working to help President Trump as well as Speaker Jim Jordan rebuild America.
Like the Israelites who returned from their captivity and began rebuilding, a brick in one hand, a sword in the other.
This is my prayer!
It’s ride or die with Trump for me.
Everyone with doubts: the fainting couch is that way —->
Bring on the Torqueada….it’s about time!
Amen.
Amen, in for a penny, in for a pound.
Are We Really Ready To Quit Donald Trump?
President Donald J. Trump is a problematic candidate and endorser, and he always has been, but are we really ready to quit him? I am not sure. He punches down and calling Ron DeSantis “Desantimonious” was a wholly unnecessary self-own. However, he is ready to go annihilation on the Deep State and that is necessary to preserve our Republic.
I wrote a post the other day, read it here, and named Trump villain number 2 in the midterm election issues. Wow, I took a lot of excrement for that. I do think that Trump was a villain, but that doesn’t mean that I am ready to quit DJT. Hale no.
One of my go-to writers, Don Surber, has woken up from the dream of Trump, quit him and moved on. Surber opened his recent post with:
Yes, Mr. Surber, we got plucked. By the same people who have been doing the plucking since President Ronald Reagan was a lifeguard. The same people who have always plucked. One day, maybe, we will stick those plucked feathers in our ears to block out the noise. Next Surber wrote:
Brian Kemp won reelection because of his handling of the Covid pandemic. My Governor, Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee, also won reelection, I believe, because of his pandemic response. They didn’t need or want outside help. They had great stories to tell. On the other hand, the people of Illinois and Michigan are STOOPID AF for reelecting Whitmer and Pritzker. Can’t buy seeds to grow your own veggies? Oof.
I would have loved to see the American electorate utterly and completely repudiate every Democrat office holder and candidate. I think that’s what we are reacting to as we rail against Trump. Don’t get me wrong; I am disappointed every time Trump opens his mouth and shoves his own fist in it. I still hate the Desantimonious comment. It was awful. Would it have changed one vote? No, sir. That cake was baked quite a while ago. To paraphrase you: The truth is a warm puppy hanging off of an icicle on a glacier about to fall into the North Atlantic Ocean into freezing water, and there is a wall of pundits trying to prevent the puppy being saved. Yeah, it’s that bad. I still think Donald Trump is the man to take out those pundits and save the puppy. He won’t falter and he won’t quit.
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Hey NYBTF- Did you even read Sundance’s post?
Used to read Don Surber for laughs. He started lovin on RDS a while back. Bye Bye Don. No mas Pendejo!
Surber will watch his readership plummet.
NYBTF- you could have spared us all the bullshite and gotten to your point.
I disagree regarding Trumps nickname for RDS.
Did you see the RDS ad regarding “God giving us a fighter”? IT IS SANCTIMONIOUS!
Trumps nickname is right on the money.
Websters:
sanc·ti·mo·ni·ous| ˌsaNG(k)təˈmōnēəs |
adjective derogatory
making a show of being morally superior to other people.
RDS Chosen by God???
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They’re afraid of us or Trump would be dead by now.
They know WeThePeople will NEVER vote RINO again … they know RATS only vote RATS … they know their RINO vote base is a little better then zero
GEAUX TRUMP MAGA 2024
We Good, Now? Yes Sir
And enjoy the lion that has had enough video on your Twitter
And that is why Trump is finally punching back against DeSantis’ donors by raising awareness via ‘DeSantimonious’. For a full year now the donor’s have been chipping at Trump while DeSantis stood behind the curtain to avoid triggering MAGA.
The donor’s picked their fight and now Trump is drawing Ron out for full view. I love DeSantis overall, but he needs to come out and fight like a man in public.
The Uniparty Cartel doesn’t like it when you refuse to accept their designated winners and losers.
We’ll have to figure out how to take over the party without splitting it and giving the country to the communists.
Splitting it would be fine. Having 20 true MAGA PARTY reps and 2 true MAGA PARTY senators would be enough. The r’s would need their support to win control of leadership in both chambers. Having a minority MAGA party that controls the balance of power would give us have more say in congress than we have with a republican majority.
The only time the R Party has actually served as an opposition party since President Reagan, is with PT45. Even then it was pretty much just PT45 and a few others serving in opposition to the UniParty.
What we sorely need is an actionable plan that harnesses our massive POWER for the good.
We are 71 Million strong.
What can we achieve?
A new party for us. We could achieve plenty if we were not hampered by the GOPe in our way.
Elise Stefanik just endorsed DJT’s run for President in 2024.
https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-gets-endorsement-high-profile-republican-ahead-expected-2024-presidential-run/
That puts her right up there with MTG in the good heart & sound mind department.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You people all upset about Desantis. Trumps not going no where . Desantis I hasn’t even said he’s going to run yet.
Geesh and if he does run so be it he will not beat Trump.
Not a chance.👍
Calm down and focus on other things. Stop reading MSM BS …..
Exactly. People just reacting to the media hype once again. Nothing has happened to warrant any of that angst yet. Just get this election put to bed before going all crazy about the fluff and games the media is feeding everyone. Again.
Bring it ..indeed
I LOVE IT!!!
Ad rem……..thanks……sort of sums it up for me…….stay strong
I believe this new Neil Oliver video, 16 minutes, titled “. . . sinister cabals are coming this way” is quite timely with this topic of the Big Ugly, because it really is more than what’s going on in our nation, but happening everywhere, a world-wide big ugly:
2 hour interview with Milo Yiannopoulos (who consults with Marjorie Taylor Greene) makes some interesting points about this very subject – THE BIG UGLY. .
Timcast IRL – Biden Vows TO DO NOTHING, CHANGE NOTHING, Then Run Again In 2024 w/Milo Yiannopoulos
Youtube:
Highly recommended.
I don’t know about you guys, but for me wrecking DeSantis is going to be FUN.
It is also necessary to show who DeSantis really is.
It might be the first time a deceptive politician is exposed EARLY.
Do people forget how often they have been fooled by politicians?
Pence?
Remember how many people loved him, believed in him, wanted him to be president?
Do people learn from their mistakes?
Do people learn WHY they supported Pence? Do they learn HOW Pence deceived them?
The con man always does good deeds. That’s how he gains people’s confidence.
But who is the con man really working for?
All of these professional politicans are BEING FUNDED. Those who pay are the RULERS on the big questions.
“Oh, but DeSantis attacked Disney.”
Indeed he did. Disney isn’t one of his funders.
He is funded by the globalist Koch Brothers and the military industrial complex. The people who funded Jeb Bush.
Follow the money, not Fox news.
President Trump is a billionaire. That gives him independence. But I wouldn’t say that he is completely disinterested in his own affairs, and only for the people.
Lucky for us, most of his money is in American real estate. That means: when regular Americans do well, he does well.
President Trump’s America First policies help Americans, and they also help all the Americans who will someday vacation at his hotels.
Follow the money with President Trump, too. And you will see that what benefits him, benefits us. He wants small businesses to thrive, and big businesses, too. He wants factories to return to the United States. He wants fairness in the legal system because that helps American businesses know what the rules are.
He wants low crime for the same reason.
He wants to restrict illegal immigration to reduce the shadow economy, the workers who are being paid under the table and who pay no income taxes.
He wants trade deals that benefit local producers and American farms.
And so on . . .
Those who financially support DeSantis want the SAME economic and trade and military policies that Biden supports.
Per Sundance – “The Republican Club has no interest in Ron DeSantis becoming President of the United States. The Republican Club has interest in Donald Trump NOT becoming President of the United States. Ron DeSantis is the foil, nothing more. It’s not about Ron DeSantis, it’s about the Club, the mechanism behind Ron DeSantis – the same mechanism that put $200 million into his campaign as enticement for his usefulness.”
What else do you need to know ?????!!
I want to remind Trump supporters again to dump Fox Business’ Stuart Varney. For two days in a row now Varney has spewed hate at Trump. In yesterday’s video he glowed about DeSantis and had the audacity to say DeSantis is the de facto leader of the Republican Party.
The videos are available on YouTube. I don’t want the post the links because I don’t want to contribute to the views which translate into $$$ for Varney and Fox.
I stopped watching Fox Business when they got rid of Lou.
The cancellation of Lou Dobbs is the proof that Fox is a propaganda network that targets conservatives to manipulate them.
Also, “Arizona for Biden!”
People need to turn off Fox and Fox Business entirely.
I wonder who in the world is going to watch FOX. Libs hate it, (they still think it favors conservatives), MAGA hates it. Airports, and Dentists offices, I guess.
Varney is aging out. More than willing to take his marching orders.
If President Trump announced he is running for his second term and is endorsed by Ron DeSantis would that be a good thing?
Of course … that would mean that DeSantis figured out the RINOS were using him … and he gets to keep their bribe, I mean, campaign donations 🙂
If the republicans nominate Ron Desantis in 2024, win or lose, nothing meaningful will change for “main street” conservatives.
Personally, I’d rather take a chance and go down swinging.
TRUMP 2024
MAGA PATRIOT TRUMP 2024
AND . . . . being prepared for outside-of-the-box solutions too. This means thinking about, determining, creating, and executing plans outside of our normal, and abnormal, frames of reference. This means looking further than traditional methods. This means it may require extra-legal peaceful force contained within our historical Natural Rights.
I do not apologize one bit in bringing this topic up. We the People are the creators of our governments, and we have the right to change it on our own if needed. Peaceful does not mean timidity. Forceful does not mean violent. Peaceful force is the way forward.
Countering each act of suppression requires the work of teams determined to uphold the general principles of our Republic and our Natural Rights. Countering the current trends of double-speak, foisted on the People for decades, is a reasonable undertaking. Combating the modified election process of the last two national elections is justified. Going up against ill-defined adversaries, for which much has been written about, is within ourselves to do.
I do not suggest rebellion. Nor revolt. Nor treason. Nor illegality. I suggest what is within our Rights to do – secure our safety and happiness. If any of our governments seek to harm our Natural Rights, with those vicissitudes being our natural enemies, then naturally, conflict is forced by them.
71 million people need marching orders.
After Dave Rubin, Blaze, Ben Shapiro (and all of DW), Tim Pool and many others stabbed us in the back, I would like to understand who our allies are. A list of well-known people and reputable journalists would be really helpful. Who do you think will not betray us? and will help PDJT in 2024?
Maybe Steven Crowder? Posobiec? And Then?
Donald J. Trump?
He has a very big megaphone now.
Yes, but without a little boost from podcasts, YouTube and Twitter it’s impossible to win.
Trump generates his own buzz.
His supporters on other platforms will act accordingly.
WeThePeople.
Jason Whitlock stood up for him against the haters
This is a nasty bare knuckles fight but it has to happen. There will be much collateral damage.
Indeed. And I am seeing a sudden surge of “go along to get along” posts here lately. I am a bit beat up, older but wiser. And I still have some fight left in me. I say bring it.