In December of 2009 the results of the most consequential special election of the decade were transmitted from a rebellious bunch of misfits who shook the political elite to Washington DC. Republican Scott Brown was elected to take the “Kennedy Seat” in Massachusetts in an epic battle that surprised both the Democrat and Republican establishment.
The DC political class (both parties) were shook, triggered, jaw-dropped & aghast… A revolt was visible.
It wasn’t just the Democrats who reacted, organized and responded with the urgency of a 2012 counter-offensive. The rebellious threat from the working class was as much abhorred by the Republican political class, the Bushes, McCains and McConnells who saw the Tea Party uprising as toxic to their control.
The working-class uprising, the originating assembly of what is now the MAGA movement represented in that Massachusetts winter special election had to be destroyed, and that was why the Tea Party movement had to be co-opted and destroyed by the Republican party. From their professionally Republican perspective, including the billionaire and Wall Street donors who try to influence the club platform, there are no limits to what they will do to retain control, nothing is out-of-bounds.
That’s why we saw the GOPe primary ‘splitter strategy‘ first deployed to scale in 2012. Romney was installed as the nominee, and gleefully the GOPe watched as he was defeated by Obama’s reelection bid in November. The status-quo was achieved. The DC UniParty was repaired, and all things were back under club control. Two wings of the same UniParty once again giving the illusion of choice.
For those of us who fully understood what was done, and by that time our 2013 ranks were more significant, it became crystal clear the ‘first-things-first’ approach would require the Republican political elite to be removed and confronted first – before the communists in the left wing of the UniParty could be attacked. We needed a weapon against them….
…..ENTER Donald John Trump.
Donald John Trump wasn’t just our MAGA candidate in 2015, he was our murder weapon and the professional GOPe elite, the party system within the Republican club, was our intended victim.
The 2016 Republican club counter-offensive to a reenergized movement now carrying the MAGA banner, was led by the ‘Never Trumpers’. Most of you will easily remember how the professional political class, the Jeb Bush wing within the Republican club, responded. However, this time in 2016 we had the previous experience, the lessons and a map of their playbook in hand.
The MAGA movement knew what the GOPe club were trying to do, and we defeated them because our candidate was big, snarky, strong and impervious to the professional Republican club throwing everything including the kitchen sink at him. We The People were not going to retreat. We held the line, moved forward and won. However, our 2016 victory made the Republican inside club even more furious.
The Bushes, McConnells et al were unwilling to relinquish control of the club and would do anything, say anything and use every institutional lever within their control to remain in power. The inside DC Republican club used every deceptive resource available to undermine our President and kneecap him from disrupting the system.
It wasn’t just the Democrats trying to impeach President Trump, the Republican wing of the UniParty was more than willing to provide background support, they just couldn’t be visible when doing it.
This is the battle for control of the Republican Party. It’s not about voters or candidates per se’, the battle is for the control of a private club – the RNC. President Trump has loosened the grip, but it is up to We The People of the MAGA movement to pry their fingers from the mechanisms of control.
What I am describing above is what the background battle, within the state of Florida, around Ron DeSantis, is all about.
The Bush clan have wrapped their arms around Governor Ron DeSantis as a 2024 weapon to counteract the MAGA movement. They have poured hundreds of millions into the “acceptable Republican” effort and are in full control of the DeSantis campaign management.
The Mitt Romney’s, Mitch McConnell’s, Paul Ryan’s, Kevin McCarthy’s etc are trying to leverage the club dynamic over Ron DeSantis and provide enticements to maintain the alliance with their internal battle plan to retain full control over the Republican Party.
The Never Trumpers, financed by donors, the professional party system and club officials, are all part of the internecine battle.
When President Trump labels the former congressman, now Florida Governor as “Ron DeSanctimonious,” that background reality is the who, what, when and why.
This battle is about Republican Party control and the use of Ron DeSantis by the club members who refuse to let go of power.
As noted by a comment from Rick Stans:
Watching heads explode over Trump’s “DeSantimonious” comment is exactly what the RINO elite relishes! Sundance has spelled out Ron’s position very clearly over the past weeks and anyone with half a brain could see it! Ron is a tool being forged as the splitter to weaken Trump in his bid to win in ‘24.
Moreso, the “god” man is what the RINO elite like Ryan and McCarthy hope will destroy the MAGA movement and restore the order of Kings & Queens in D.C. verses the serfs in fly-over country! The Coastals are becoming a bit uneasy hearing about Red Waves and MAGA movements! Time to crush these peasants once and for all!
Enter “god” man! Smiling, snarky Ron the Trump slayer! The Rip Van Winkle of Mar-a-Lago post raid! Trump’s friendly shot across the bow is a wake-up call!
No Ron, we won’t sit back and let you be another fraud, a fallen acorn from the dead Bush Oak that was fertilized with our hard-earned tax dollars for decades!
Either we’re all in for MAGA (despite what Trump does) or we’ll all be learning how to say “can I trade my dollars for yuan” in Mandarin one day! Wake up foolish Ron supporters who have become offended by Trump! Haven’t you learned from your parents that “sticks and stones may break my bones…..”
Trump is a gamer and his words were just a precursor to let Ron know that all the money and notoriety he will be promised for distancing himself from MAGA to “Save” America, is really nothing but fools gold in the end if MAGA goes the way of the Tea Party!
The Republican Club would rather lose elections and retain power than win and be held accountable to deliver on their false promises.
This is Sarah Palin all over again. She got nobodies elected and they joined the establishment instead of the Plain Tea Party. Even at that time Trump was not on the Palin Train.
It was hard for many to jump on that train when McCain was the conductor.
No truer words
What is the latest in Palin’s race in Alaska, does anyone know? I realize the Alaska GOP rigged the system to keep Murkowski safe but is there any chance that Kelly Tshibaka could pull off a surprise upset?
No polls are being taken in Alaska to hide the fix.
Okay, I wondered about that. There were a lot of stories and a lot of interest after the primaries and then everything just went dark. Sarah Palin was on Warroom a couple of weeks ago but that is the only media attention that I have seen.
Tshibaka was recently on Warroom as well but never a mention by R. Baris or other pollsters.
When Sarah resigned as governor 18 months before the end of her term, because her enemies were suing her into bankruptcy, she was chastised by the Left and the GOPe . When DeSanctimonious resigns mid-term, will he get the same treatment?
He will not of course.
To this day it is a mystery to me why McCain picked her, they must not have known her background – or maybe they just want to put her on a losing ticket with McCain. Regardless, it did not take long for him and his media henchmen to turn all their knives on her. Sarah Palin was the spark that kindled the Tea Party movement. Michelle Bachman fanned the flames. Both were placed on the GOPe’s most wanted list.
McCain didn’t want to win, and Palin did!
The Alaskan Republican Party is a joke. They stood by for “rancid “ choice voting. Now there’s a good chance the representative will be a democrat in a RED state. I take consolation that other states are carrying the ball. I done what I could. But not done yet.
“Ranked Choice”, like “open” Primaries and “top two blanket” Primaries, are subject to chicanery and corruption. We MUST go back to closed primaries, where sabotage voters of the Demunists get to take a whizz in the GOP voting pool.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_primary
That is not entirely true, in fact most stood for change, did a few slip through, sure.
She didn’t own the TEA Party, no one really did which is why the media had a hard time attacking it.
She a lot of her credibility when she went all in for Trump and cast out the good and the bad.
Maybe if the Right so called news wouldn’t have just spent the last 2 years blowing pure propaganda for this guy we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
To Ron DeSantis I would say that I stick with a guy that kept his campaign promises in spite of all the slings and arrows coming from his left and from his own party.
Why would I shift to a guy who works with the very establishment that has shown over and over only pretends they represent me?
A party that blithely sends our sons and daughters into harm’s way? Who pretends they want good jobs for Americans while licking the butt of the American corporations who send jobs overseas….to our enemy, to boot!
I was going to write more, but the whole topic sickens me.
One last thing: Paul Ryan goes on tv and lists three candidates and of course, our enemy that he is, he leaves out the guy that has proven he fights for us, then lies and says, “Trump can’t win.”
Ryan, you make the same mistake the Dems make: you insult our intelligence. It is YOU and the Mitches and the Foxes and the C of C who attack him so that he can’t win, so you hope.
You make us all sick and if Ron sticks with you, our response to him–who SAID HE WASN’T GOING TO RUN–will be the same as it has been to you, the communal finger.
You, tlhoward, are spot on!
Bout time to get rid of 2 leadership big macs once and for all this year.
McCarthy replaced by Jim Jordan and McConnell replaced by Chuck Grassley.
Grassley is way too old. My Gawd, have you seen or heard him lately?
I think I prefer Massie of Kentucky over Jim Jordan. Jim has made some votes in the past two years I do not like.
I agree, very impressed with Massie, he is smart and seems like the real thing.
I also like Massie which is why they will try to sell us a compromise of Jordan possibly. Massie may be his own man.
I’m all in for any man who can build his own house.
He is so head-and-shoulders above almost everyone else in the House, I don’t know if he could stand being Speaker.
Like Gulliver amid the Lilliputians.
Jim Jordan is in bed with the Tech lobby.
A fairweather friend I suspect
it wouldn’t be Grassley (as much as I love Grassley). Too old. Rick Scott?
I seriously despise Ryan and refuse to support any candidate or position he is in favor of.
With any Democrat, there is no question what they want to do. With Ryan, he wants what he wants, does not care what the Democrats are doing to this country as long as he gets his, and anyone opposed should just shut up and pay for it.
I don’t recall Ryan speaking in opposition to anything the left has done to this country over the past 2+ years.
I DO remember Ryan arrogantly saying Trump will not be our nominee, and now giving his little list of favored candidates us peons have to choose from.
I also remember Ryan professing for years he had the fix for obamacare……….
He had nothing. He has nothing. It was just too hard…………..
Narcissist that actually makes one physically ill.
whoops
YOU CAN TELL – EVERYTHING ABOUT an Elected Official BEFORE and AFTER They LEAVE OFFICE. IF THEY DO NOT RETURN HOME and Work in THEIR HOME AREA – THEY DO NOT REPRESENT YOUR VALUES, imo –
If they STAY IN D.C. –> THAT IS NOW THEIR HOME and FRIENDS –> NOT the Hometown Folks ( maybe NEVER WAS ? ).
PAUL RYAN ” settled ” in the D.C. Area.
( btw – PENCE, STAY in D.C. )
qrw
Paul Ryan- the guy who couldn’t even deliver his home state when he was the VP candidate.
A state that PDJT win – twice.
I tried to enlighten the RDS throng at GWP. And I was not inappropriate in any way. Just tried to comment there again..now banned. The GOPe runs deep.
How many BILLIONAIRES want him? All you need to know. https://desantiswatch.org/the-watchtower/2022/08/19/rons-top-10-billionaire-buddies-ultra-wealthy-donors/
Still President Trump should wait till after the election to start dissing any republican
Just my opinion
LOL
I disagree. A shot across the bow from President Trump, if DeSantis is still capable of having second thoughts, was well timed. Of course, the 70+% for the President vs 10% for Ron should be enough to give him pause. But maybe he’s being offered “generational money” to play this game. Enough to completely destroy his political career, down to the point that the next conservative who runs for Governor of Florida will clean his clock…
Other than the possibility of money, this is a massive lose-lose for DeSantis.
Generational money. Just Like the Obamas were.
SB,
“Generational money”? Bet on it. If DeSantis is smart, he will set himself up for a run in 2028 and back Trump to the hilt. That would get him the Presidency for eight years AND he would come into office with a strong economy.
However, if he knifes President Trump in the back and decides to run in 2024, I cannot see him winning the nomination either then or at any other time. Trump’s supporters REALLY like President Trump. Attack him and you will be dead to the vast majority of those who vote for him, AND there is no way a Republican can win without those votes.
If DeSantis uses the “Generational money” provided by the Uniparty to support their arch enemy Trump, they will Claw that money back….
One way
Or another
Swim in the swamp with creatures like Ryan and McConnell and you will get dirty very quickly. During the past 2.5 years DeSantis should have become aware of where the true republican support comes from.
I believe that ship has sailed.
DeSantis is a total non-entity in the rust belt. Couldn’t win any of those states.
DeS can’t get the Reagan/Trump coalition vote.
Democrats – No
Disaffected – No
Never-voters – No
Oddball groups – No
DeSantis could definitely win in the rust belt. Unless he started to come after Trump.. but I can easily see DeSantis winning states like Ohio, Wisconsin, West Virginia etc especially if he is smart enough to wait until 2028 to run..
i can’t wait for Trump to win again.
He can clean the swamp; build the wall; etc.
u know, its sad…..but Obama got his agenda down; Trump -except for the economy — did not.
Sadly, Obama was smarter than Trump.
As was Brennan… and Comey.
Not smarter; nefarious, deceptive, evil communist whose agenda was backed by the UNIPARTY from the beginning; they planned their coup and stuck to the plan. 45’s plan is better but undermined from the day he came down the escalator……… but NOT smarter than 45.
With all due respect………….Obama is many things, none of them good, but he is NOT smarter than the REAL President Trump.
The satanic cesspool of the left & many on the right, turned out to be more evil & pervasive, than anyone could have imagined
Obama was groomed starting in Illinois. He isn’t without some political talent but I never felt like he had any core values or principles, other that a healthy hatred for America.
I could see Trump scooping him up as a VP running mate though and it would only be another Judas Pence all over again.
I can see President Trump choosing someone else.
Kari Lake
Can we STOP cannibalizing good governors from states that need them, and elected them? Are we really THAT DESPERATE??
Do we really believe in federalism, states’ rights, etc.? That will only work with great govs getting settled IN THEIR STATES. Think of what Ronny could do in FL with four more dedicated years?
But Missy, if you look at who becomes President, it is mostly Governors, sometimes Veeps, sometimes Senators, occasionally a General. Trump was a unique individual as a Captain of Industry, but NOBODY lower than Veep or Senator or General ever becomes President.
Then that would prove Trump did not learn a vital lesson of his first term.
and I pray that next MAGA presidential candidate is Kari Lake (we need to cease using the term “conservative” as it has been coopted by too many rinos. It confuses those without critical thinking skills.
I won’t vote for a ticket with St Kari. She’s a nothingburger with a big mouth. Let’s see how she handles the job. NewsSquawker to Chief Executive. Lol. Anybody can blow smoke up you butt for votes. Look at ‘Tea Part’ Rubio.
Aside from his now manifest connections to the GOPe / anti-Trump people, that campaign ad was like fingernails on a blackboard.
More lame than the earlier lame one Top Gov.
I thought the same, that a few days more wouldn’t have hurt, but what’s done is done and frankly, RDS deserved it.
I agree, DeSantis should have asked to be at the Miami Rally today. It seems that at all of President Trump’s other rallies the Governor candidates are all there with the other Republicans running.
DeSantis does not think it is important to be at a Trump rally. If he were MAGA there would be a standing invite.
In 2018 President Trump carried DeSanctimonious over the finish line as it was sure looking like that freak Gillum was gaining ground.
Just like Sundance says, people want to pretend not to know things.
His handlers have convinced him to distance himself from PDJT. He should be going MAGA full speed ahead, but he is not in control.
Donald Trump has impeccable timing.
He chose to call DeSanctimonious out here and now for a reason.
Do not know what that reason is but it is probably a good one.
This is probably one of the best nick names PT has ever laid on any one.
Totally agree. It’s going to stick.
Right there with you.
President Trump is giving DeSanctimonious a heads-up. Cool your jets Ron or you will end up just like “please clap” Jeb Bush.
Spot on. Trump is also smoking out the establishment….they will expose themselves and fall for the trap to defend Desanctimonious’s honor.
Exposing these guys is what is really important just like Desantis getting outed now as an establishment/globalist bitch
He is SO good at doing that.
The exposure he gave the swamp dwellers over the years was phenomenal.
That is funny – and so true.
Yep. Soon we will see a campaign name change to “Ron!”
Yep, or ” RON! Please Clap”.
I’ve seen similar comments on social media essentially saying the same thing.
The problem I have with it is more people seem to be upset and complaining about his comment than they are with the destruction of everything good in this country.
I had one commenter suggest I should remember Reagan’s 11th commandment…not speaking ill of fellow Republicans. I used to believe that for a long time, until I saw what our “leadership” has done to Republican voters for YEARS.
Silencing and canceling comments you don’t like is what the left does. Canceling speech is what the left did with Hunter’s laptop. Canceling speech is what they did with a vengeance on COVID, and are still doing. Weaponizing federal agencies is what they did to silence those questioning their election fraud. Silencing parents is what they tried doing to get them to shut up about the filth they are pushing in schools.
Those bitching about what Trump said should be asking themselves why so many in the GOPe were silent when all that silencing and canceling were going on.
I just said wait two days and then fire away.
Relax
Uh, no. If DeSantis can’t take a little criticism, then I am not the one needing to relax.
Let’s alter Reagan’s comment – do not speak ill of fellow MAGA republicans
open season on all rinos and dems
I agree Amjean.
Open season and double down.
I like it!
People with their hair on fire because President Trump said something “mean” are the same ones who imploded about his mean tweets of the past. Governor DeSantis knows well the waters he anticipates swimming. He will be triumphant in his election for Governor as he should be. That said; stay in your lane, Ron.
The hair-on-fire thing is fake outrage intended to influence the gullible.
Hair on fire because he gave him a nickname that has an element of truth to it. They know that and are terrified it will stick.
They don’t want any criticism of DeSantis. Or his establishment handlers exposed.
So glad Trump is doing it early.
I want up give you 30 thumbs up for this; truth!
Ronnnie didn’t have complete turds like Mitch to deal with.
He had Tip O’Neill to deal with and he did it head-on. Not some horse-trading backroom crap like we see now.
That’s because our problems are SO MUCH DEEPER than who is President.
Great video from Patriot Nurse, one of my faves, and she’s spot on.
It was Ron who did the dissing…
President Trump merely responded.
You know, like a fighter!
DeSantis dissed him first by his actions and then lack of action (Mar a Lago raid)
You want President Trump to sit there and twiddle his thumbs waiting for the election
to be over? President Trump has his own timeline and way of doing things.
Someone needed to sit Ron down and told him to mind his manners. President Trump did
it with one word.
I cringed when i read what Trump had said. Bad Idea. People wanted Desantis to be Trump’s VP. People will not want to choose between the 2. Me for one. I would unfortunately pick DeSantis cause Trump doesn’t choose his words carefully.
We’ve had 50 years of milquetoast republicans choosing their words carefully and selling us all out. you can slide down that slope into the welcoming waters of the swamp if you want to, but don’t expect me to ooze along with you. I will, however, help you up to dry land if you want the help.
“I would unfortunately pick DeSantis cause Trump doesn’t choose his words carefully.’
On the contrary, I think Trump chooses his words very carefully, as he just did. Deeds matter far more than words and it’s DeSantis deeds now that make many of us suspicious that he’s UNIPARTY. This county cannot afford another UNIPARTY President. The last 5 have almost destroyed it. This may be our last chance to prevent it.
KJ, I doubt you get many or any thumbs up. Also, please reconsider, Trump chooses his words very carefully.
No one choses his words better than Trump. That was just a warning shot. Remember low energy Jeb and Little Marco.
Such an important quality for a president.
Much more so than being owned by the swamp. Or being part of the GOPe plan to take out Trump and MAGA.
But I actually think he did choose his words carefully and wanted to expose DeSantis.
Maybe you prefer the swamp.
Oh, go away.
So far Trump’s disses have been correct 100% and that includes the timing.
Timing is everything in politics. Trump had to comment.
Here ya go all you Battered Conservatives.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/06/gop-megadonor-desantis-24-ken-griffin-00065274
Now what other reason can you come up with to deny the truth ?
Why did the corrupt Bush Mafia release this today.
Ron DeSantis billionaire contributors include Publix, Koch families (tallahassee.com)
Here’s $5mil “stalwart conservative” Griffin who wanted Disney left alone:
And ol’ dead fish Emanuel…
So who is DeSantis’ money man?
“Griffin, the head of Citadel, an investment firm, has been donating to political campaigns for more than 20 years, giving $5,000 and $10,000 increments in those early days to Republicans and Democrats alike when he was living in Chicago. Mayors Richard M. Daley and Rahm Emanuel, both Democrats, were beneficiaries. And in 2008, he raised money for both presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama.”
Not bothering to hide their intentions, are they?
I used to think that those that donated to both parties and opposing candidates were hedging bets, now I know the uniparty is supreme so it doesn’t really matter.
Let us return, for a moment, to the halcyon days of the Tea Party movement. Who were the stars that grass roots support lifted to elected office? Let’s start with Marco Rubio. Was he seduced by the Swamp, or merely a snake in the grass from the get-go?
How many, I wonder, of the MAGA candidates about to be swept into office are sincere? How many are opportunists? How many of the sincere will be seduced in the years ahead … become yet another Rubio or Ernst?
Focus on the elections that not only matter to you, but impact your life in a very direct way. If you are a parent, far and away the most important slate of candidates on the ballot are the people running for your school board. For the rest of us, it’s the city council or county commission, the local mayor and the country sheriff.
Just remembered who ran against Trump? Rubio, Cruz , Lindsey (Rino …), Bush all paid senators by the Rino swamp. Good Neurosurgeon worked with trump.
I can’t stand thoses A$&
S……….Rs . I wonder what they have on video of them .
Epstein’s movie coming soon
People who are elected by big money will always be beholden to big money. Rubio and Ernst are included in that. Most MAGA candidates are not connected to the big money globalists. Not to say they cannot go bad, but that is a big difference.
Which means that WE NEED TO MAKE UP THE FINANCIAL DIFFERENCE.
Let’s all start putting money aside NOW.
All are human and many will fall, but we must keep pushing forward good candidates and removing the weak and/or corrupted. DC is a cauldron some will get better with the heat.
Please be assured that no one in the Republican Establishment is concerned or upset that brave patriots are being held in the DC Gulag for misdemeanors and/or minor felonies with little or no access to legal consul, let a lone a proper hearing for reasonable bail.
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On the contrary they are as Rush used to say, “orgasmic” that a message is being sent to these people!
One look at what the GOPe has silently allowed with the lawfare targeting of many within the circle of Trump should make it very clear. Political raids by federal agencies, federal agencies collusion with BigTech to infringe your rights, throwing attorney-client privilege out the window.
Removing your right to choose medical care.
They do not give a damn what might happen to a random nobody targeted by the feral goobermint. They agree with it.
You are so right about the GOPe Republicanvet91.
We all need to remember the Romney run for President.
I still want my money back from that weasel.
JEB! Please Clap and so many other loser candidate and now there is “GOD made a Fighter….. DeSactimonius”.
The guy needs to stay in Florida.
American Gulag – Documenting government overreach following the Jan. 6 capitol protest
Author: Julie Kelly › American Greatness (amgreatness.com)–She’s been the Voice of America’s Jan. 6th Political Prisoners–Never Forgotten!
The Gateway Pundit has been publishing stories from the political prisoners regularly since Jan6. At least weekly and sometimes daily. The stories of their torture are horrific. One man has lost an eye. Another suicided. All being put in solitary confinement for months. There are women being denied basic sanitary care items.
Over 500 are rotting in jails without bail and their cases not being heard. America Shame on you. 26 red states and nobody saying a thing.
Hoft has been fantastic. That American Gulag link above is his.
GWP just banned me for defending Trump. I have supported them for years.
Many have been banned there. Either they are frauds or they have people working for them undermining their site.
THIS was the goal of the NDAA, which needed TWO VOTES in Congress, because of the egregious violation of the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments…And still, it passed. And every year, it’s renewal is celebrated in Congress!
Excellent point.
Bad move by DeSantis surrounding himself with cynical consultants who are tone deaf when it comes to deeply held religious beliefs. DeSantis is trying to appeal to the conservative base, but this ad repels rather than appeals. It is so over-the-top arrogant to put De Santis up as the God-chosen savior…almost sacrilegious actually. Here is a scripture saying he should have taken to heart–“Pride goes before the fall.” Looking at you gov’.
So true Aleks.
Very bad that DeSantis can have his head turned so easily.
As will always be the case, President Trump is going after DeSanctimonious to protect and defend MAGA, i.e., “us”. DeSanctimonious threw the first punch by colluding with known anti-MAGA conspirators, i.e., “the enemy”. No one punches Trump without getting a counter punch. It was a direct hit between the eyes and gonna leave a mark. Thank you President Trump for defending MAGA/AF against our enemies.
Sorry, but DeSantis is knowingly conspiring against MAGA. He appears to be a MAGA pretender. He could still make the right decision. We will see.
He has to be very careful. If he is not a man of his word or is seen to have been disloyal or betrayed DJT, he will never recover among MAGA/AF, without whom he cannot win a national primary or general election. I’m sure a lot of people are whispering sweet nothings in his ear.
His handlers will try to convince him that he can win with suburban voters, and that he doesn’t need the deplorables.
They would love to get rid of us.
agree with your comment except for the last paragraph.
a leopard does not change its spots
DeSantis is done
Agreed! already showed his colors, no going back.
“The Republican Club would rather lose elections and retain power than win and be held accountable to deliver on their false promises.”
To this I would add, they would rather lose power, than be held responsible for failing so miserably at cleaning up the corruption throughout our government.
Of course, it is easier to sit on the sidelines and say, “If you vote for me…..I will……will not…..etc.”
The Constitution is my rock and President Trump is my guiding light. … And Sundance is my battlefield intel.
I beg to differ on one point. Trump himself was a creation of the same mechanism we see today by the left. They seek to destroy and weaken the potential field by any means necessary. DeSantis may or may not be their choice to run but he seems to be the weapon chosen to weaken Trumps support. The left was certain Trump would be completely unsuitable and Clinton having cleared the field would obliterate him hence all the free publicity afforded Trump on the way to the nomination. They miscalculated just how much Clinton was despised. Donald Trump took the reins and delivered as best he could and earned the bases loyalty. McConnell and McCarthy are the true oppressors, the enemy within. What tricks await, war, more fraud, lawfare?
I’m in Florida and am sorely disappointed that my vote for DeSantis has been reduced back down to the pre-Trump “lesser of two evils” that I had to choose between every election cycle after Reagan. I don’t feel any enthusiasm for DeSantis anymore. He’s an establishment tool with delusions of grandeur, nothing more. He just happens to be climbing the ladder to power on the right side of things rather than the left.
If he’s so stupid, so full of his own bloated self, that he actually tries to run against Trump in the primary, Trump will end his presidential hopes permanently and Ron DeSanctimonious will deserve it, just as Low Energy Jeb, Lyin’ Ted and Liddle Marco deserved it.
The day after he’s re-elected governor, I’ll begin to try to open all my neighbors’ eyes about this man.
He didn’t even wait to get re-elected before allowing himself to be positioned for a national campaign.
He was very willing to jump in bed with the Karl Rove types.
Over the years so many disappointments…so few running with rock solid integrity and steel backbones.
History REPEATS! Ronald Regan agreed to bush as VP. Bush then totally disassembled the Regan Conservative gains as soon as he could. We cannot let DeSantis be Bush the second.
Damn straight !
This Floridian is so pissed off I refuse to vote for the Mother.
Oh, DeSanctimonious win a 2nd term as governor but I will always be able to say I did not vote for him just like I did not vote for Romney/Ryan.
WOLVERINES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kari is looking better and better
Winsome looks better.
Ineligible. A Jamaican immigrant? FFS! What TH is wrong with you people!
Total sleeper star.
Not after that crap speech she gave a couple of days ago…Absolute slap in the face to P. Trump. Traitor…No outrage about the stolen election, nothing, no recognition of what PJT accomplished despite real sabotage and an uphill battle.
Just another token black. She just cut her own throat.
They would for sure have Trump killed like Bush tried to do to Regan. I can’t believe they haven’t considered that scenario as an easier way to install RDS.
guess you haven’t kept track of how many assassination attempts there have been on him.
The DeSantis ad in question is sacrilegious at best, which should give a pretty good idea of his true character.
The Usual Colorado Fix is In
Q: Why would O’Dea antagonize Colorado Republicans?
A: Because NeverTrump O’Dea wasn’t elected by Colorado Republicans. He was elected by Colorado’s Sec. of State Jena Griswold and her army of computer-generated Phantom Voters and her Dominion CheatWare.
And they elected him to lose.
Griswold has already picked her own opponent: ZuckBucks ringer Pam Anderson.
Republicans elected Tina Peters. But Griswold installed her own choice Anderson, leaving Coloradoans to choose between a Soros Cheater or a Zuckerberg Cheater.
So why wouldn’t she also install her own Never-Trump Designated Loser Joe O’Dea over MAGA candidate Ron Hanks? She’s already chosen other Republican candidates.
So when you hear O’Dea bashing True President Trump, remember–that’s his job, so he can throw the election to Sen. Bennett.
It’s the Colorado Way.
ps: Even if O’Dea “wins”, Griswold still gets a FakeRepublican- Democrat. Just like her own race. It’s the Uni-Party Masquerade.
Suggestion: Write in Ron Hanks and Tina Peters.
Rest in the Vine: The Rocky Mountain Way: Jena Griswold Installed
”Republican” Joe O’Dea So He Could Throw the Election to Michael Bennett
That corrupt primary was something. Totally implausible things happened. I did not see any news of a revolt by the voters either.
Voters were CLUELESS; the ones who were aware were those involved at precinct levels; those who attended caucus and assemblies – and they have been fighting since the primary. In fact, we tried to get the vote to be paper, hand-counted BEFORE the primary, to no avail. Primary results were audited (paid for by those same people who KNEW what had happened). Silence, shutdown, etc. about the audit results. The RINOs in charge, along with Grizzle-wort’s lawyer AND Dominion worker (in back room with his laptop) all controlled the audit. BTW – for mid-terms, it was NOT allowed to “write-in” any candidate who lost the primary. You could write them in (and many did) but would NOT be counted per COLO Dems “bad loser policy”. Yep, the noose just gets tighter and tighter and the RINOs are to be thanked and BLAMED for this. It was THEY (RINOs) who brought in Dominion along with Demonic Griswold, etc. Ron Hanks was CHOSEN, as was Tina Peters and many others – not one was allowed to hold their rightful seats.
Who is Salena Zito from the Washington Examiner? I heard her and Clay and Buck’s show on Friday and she claims to be traveling out in the hinter-land interviewing Trump supporters and claims they all love Trump but don’t really want him to run again. They love how he’s helping candidates get elected but – privately don’t want him to run again.
I know those in the Republican Party and Democrat Party that hate Trump their eyes gloss over and they will never support him – that I completely understand but I have never even heard a Trump supporter who doesn’t want Trump to run again.
It has always been my contention that the Marxist-Democrats created their own boogie-man (Trump) by the viciousness of their attacks on him plus I also believe they would have used the same tactics against ANY Republican who would have won in 2016 and ONLY Trump could have withstood the onslaught of hatred know as TDS.
“Who is Salena Zito?”
She’s the best conservative reporter on the pulse and state of rural America in PA, OH, WV, and appalcachia in general That’s who.
never heard of her.
Washington Examiner is owned by billionaire Never Trumper Philip Anschultz who also owned the Weekly Standard. He also owns Sea Island GA.
Exactly. Never Trump rag for sure.
“Who is Salena Zito?”
JMO,
Just another never-trumpster fake-news-looser trying to affect the midterms.
Who is the RNC chair women? Romney niece.
Rino I despise all of them…
Yep, we have a problem with the GOPee’s.
Our focus here, is kicking every UniParty commie tyrant out of anything and everything that has a say in our lives, right down to the dog catcher. The DemonRats we will not stop them from destroying themselves, but the Rinocrats they will be thrown into the ditch beside the road, when we find them. Starting at the bottom and working our way up. War is an ugly business.
Where I live we are done with this criminality!
Glad to hear this. Where I live – we are in chains and fighting to keep our heads above water.
I’m looking at the Florida campaign contributions site and I see since April 2021 the Republican Governor’s Association has gifted DeSantis’ campaign an astonishing $20.95 MILLION. The latest donation was made just 3 days ago, Nov 3, in the amount of $600,000. The guy has a ton of money in his campaign fund and he’s well ahead in the poll, why would he need a last-minute infusion of $600k? Do you think the Republican Governor’s Association has made any contributions to Kari Lake or Darren Bailey (IL) ?
Why don’t you find out?
I have tried to but I can’t find data for either. There is some data for Illinois but it’s a mess, I can’t find a nice searchable database.
I think this is Kari Lakes campaign contribution info, unfortunately in separate PDF files. I have looked at the latest 4 files and find nothing from Republican Governor’s Association or anything similar to that.
https://seethemoney.az.gov/Reporting/Explore#JurisdictionId=0|Page=11|startYear=2021|endYear=2023|IsLessActive=false|ShowOfficeHolder=false|View=Detail|Name=1~100605|TablePage=1|TableLength=10
You’d think these states could set up searchable databases like Florida has. Katie Hobbs is the current Secretary of State in AZ, maybe the next person can bring their campaign finance info up to the 21st century.
So he has a war chest when they convince him to run against PDJT.
Right, so the interesting thing is that war chest is for his Florida Governor campaign and he’s not supposed to use it to run for federal office.
But …. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/ron-desantis-campaign-finance-2024-election/index.html
Trump has been around a long time.
Indeed, he was a stalwart of the Tea Party since its beginings.
Trump rally started early!! He is onstage and speaking now!
I kept asking myself, why would DeSantis squander everything he has by opposing Trump in 2024? All he can do is keep Trump from winning, and then DeSantis is politically dead the rest of his life, like Liz Cheney. For $200M, that he can’t ever personally touch, he’d do that?
DeSantis can’t be THAT dumb, folks.
Only way DeSantis could have agreed to this is if the Deep State players handling him showed him *incontrovertible* proof that Trump would be eliminated before 2024. Completely out of the picture.
If DeSantis agreed to this without seeing this proof, his IQ must truly be down in the 85-90 range.
But keep in mind DeSantis hasn’t announced a 2024 run, and most people seem to be oblivious to what he’s doing to position himself as a national candidate even though to those of us who are onto him it seems so obvious. National ads, rally tour in other states, grabbing money from big-$$ donors in other states, branding himself, etc.
If Trump announces then it will be interesting to see what DeSantis does. IMO DeSantis would be stupid to run if Trump is running, but I don’t think he’s in control of his campaign, I think he has become a puppet to his donors and his donors might want him to run.
The gigantic red wave mid term results that include many Trump-backed candidates will also play a part in the GOPe deciding whether they can take him out without losing the entire base.
Maybe they will realize that their fates rise and fall with Trump’s.
correction – whether they think they can take him out.
THIS GIRL AINT MOVING EVEN AN INCH. THIS IS THE LINE IN THE SAND
Ron DeSantis could never win a Primary against President Trump, even if all Republican never-Trumpers vote against him. Trump’s MAGA movement is too overpowering. The only danger DeSantis represents is to himself – he will blow himself out of politics, if he runs against Trump, pretending to be Trump.
I’m in Kentucky, and I’ve been working the polls – our Clerk has said he has never seen so many people voting. He was taken aback at the numbers and wasn’t prepared the first day of early voting. This is a midterm – many people do not vote in a midterm, but I had several people tell me this was the first time they’ve ever voted.
Its not “JUST” about DeSantis
Trump just told everyone at the Miami rally to vote for their governor, Ron DeSantis, and all Republicans on the ticket.
At the same time, the DeSantis team has denied that DeSantis has plotted with GOPe to primary Trump.
Maybe this whole primary rival thing now gets squashed before it actually rises.
If Trump told everyone what a GOPe stooge DeSantis has become , and told them to “vote their conscience” a la Ted Cruz did in 2016, then Tuesday millions of MAGA Floridians would stay away from DeSantis in droves. It would be enough to tip the election. He’d be finished.
But that’s why I love Trump. He didn’t do that. That’s not who he is. He’s ever loyal to the cause and would never let Charlie Crist walk away with the governor’s office. He’s putting up with DeSantis’s bullshit in order to see the big picture. He’s the real deal, the real fighter.
Thank you for underscoring that fact about DJT. Some folks commenting here are on the verge of forgetting it.
President Trump is going to declare his candidacy very soon after Tuesday, so as to keep DeSantis and any others from getting a leg up on him.
DeSantis is not going to run in 2024. He’s saving himself for2028. That’s when he will win. DeSantis is a very classy and well disciplined guy. Dick morris explains this on a Newsmax article dated today. Ron Desantis will not ruin his chances.
He needs to listen to Morris and not Karl Rove.
“DeSantis is a very classy and well disciplined guy.”
Could be, but he is also a known XXer of President Trump and all MAGAs.
Some people might like very classy, etc…… but they hate XXers.
Bye, bye De-XX.
Not sure about him being “classy”… He is beginning to look VERY questionable.
To tell ya the truth.. I thought something was amiss when the Florida democrats crossed over to ensure McVain would be the nominee in the primary. The (republican ) dogs did not bark whilst they SHOULD have been in a loud, rabid, rage.
Between President Trump and Governor Desantis, the smoke has grown so thick that it obscures what is really happening. The Presidential Primaries are months away and primary ballot petition due dates to the states are still weeks away.
Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are both smart and sophisticated guys.
Are they capable of pulling off a good cop & bad cop ruse in Public? Heck yes they are.
Are they capable of misdirection, with President Trump acting the crap screen for DeSantis, leading into 2024? Heck yes they are.
…or…flip the script, is Ron DeSantis good enough to be the crap screen for Donald Trump? Heck yes he is.
Are these valid questions or points of discussion? Given the primary king-making character involved is Donald Trump, who knows. The one point of agreement on Donald Trump’s character, agreed upon by friends and enemies alike, is that Donald Trump thrives best in chaos and unstructured situations.
Donald Trump has proven to be a very effective King Maker and crap magnet. He has done the king maker thing, raising up a young stable of decent potential MAGA leaders, not all 100% likable but with allot of potential. I contend this is his real calling … creating and attempting to nurture more than a single point of leadership for the MAGA movement, with staying power.
Staying power is critical at this point in time because of Donald Trump’s age as well as the fact he still has to survive nearly 2 more years of legal and threatened physical assaults, to: himself, family and friends.
Something to consider, President Trump can be brought into the administration of a President he creates as a “special advisor” requiring NO Congressional Approval, especially since he and his fellow wolverines would be working for free … no budget approvals required.
A masters class and doctoral thesis presentation in political science is being conducted by a master showman … Donald Trump.
We know the positive ID of key Uni-Party pretenders and members. The rest of the picture is still a work in progress.
Note, DeSantis and even Kristi Noem are among the works in progress.
Why should he play second fiddle to anyone? He’s the MAGA king.
Should Trump for any reason become unavailable, a wild card in the game is Kari Lake. She’s got the goods and her trajectory is straight up. DeSantis should know that, should he alienate Trump’s unforgiving base, a very appealing alternative to DeSantis is Keri Lake. Before he cozies up too tight he cozies up with Ryan, Bush etc, let him understand that.
Before he cozies up too tight
he cozies upwith Ryan, Bush etc, let him understand that.Big mouth NewsSquwker with no Chief Executive experience? Really? St Kari of the Lake on the ballot? My vote won’t follow.
Suss as H3LL.
whatever.
Ticker tape on Newsmax…. Donald Trump supports DeSantis encouraging supporters to vote for him.
Pit Trump vs. DeSantis, get Trump to destroy DeSantis, and the Uniparty gets 2-for-1, with DeSantis then out of the picture down the road in both Florida and D.C.
Uniparty doesn’t hate DeSantis. He’s one of them.
The desires and collective will of the GOPe are in diametric opposition to those of the American people and specifically conservative patriots. The legally, ethically & morally unrestricted and corrupt methods used to accumulate massive wealth and privilege cannot coexist with the representative form of government envisioned by our country’s founders. Money is the problem. It will always be the problem. And the love of it is truly the root of all evil we face.
awesome and very truthful article thanks Sundance. What you see is not necessarily what is!
Is there any possibility DeSantis is letting himself be the tool in order to get the inside track of what the RINOs are up to?
JMO,
Nope, next question?
“The rebellious threat from the working class was as much abhorred by the Republican political class, the Bushes, McCains and McConnells who saw the Tea Party uprising as toxic to their control…”
The Tea Party wasn’t toxic to their control, it WAS their control.
Remember, every anti Republican movement says the same thing… The ONLY way you can change Republicans is to vote for more Republicans. 🙄
MAGA is simply Tea Party 2.0.
And during the Tea Party the so called servants of the people refused to meet with the people in many areas!! The hid and lied and did their fastest two steps all while sowing false information and setting up splitters to keep their power. The congress critters stood silent while the IRS was persecuting tea party organizations. Their answer to this abuse was to write some strongly worded letters and hold some showy hearings which led to nothing!
So, safe to say that DeSantis will campaign for a Trump hating republican. Substitute names and you find DeSantis will campaign for Liz Cheney. Yes he will. Just. These people are not just delusional,,they are demonic. Hubris is a word that describes much.
If what you say here is actually what DeSantis is all about, then he loses and loses big. His money people will lose big too. There are too many MAGA now to be easily swallowed like the tea party was. The tea party participants went underground and emerged as Deplorables. There core values still burn and they will still fight. Only their leadership was broken up.
Anyway, I will still wait this out and watch it all unfold. DeSantis will either get smart or he will be lost. His choice.
JMO, he has already cashed the GOPe check…….there is no turning back from his XX of President Trump and all MAGAs…….. the word is you don’t back out of a deal with the devil.
It WAS his choice, he has already made it.
Bye, bye De-XX.
Florida’s Voice
@FLVoiceNews
JUST IN: Ron DeSantis’ team told Florida’s Voice that claims he met with Kevin McCarthy or Paul Ryan to plot a 2024 primary against Donald Trump are “completely false”
Does not rule out voice/video contact.
Sure, you trust what a known XX says?
“Let’s go Brandon, democrats, GOPe and all XXers.
It was a nice surprise to see in this new pyrite substack post, written by Gene Douglass, he shared this entire Sundance post that it’s not about the Florida Governor, and shared some of his own experiences when running for office in Hawaii:
https://pyrite.substack.com/p/desanctimonious-is-not-about-the
Trump should not be attacking Republicans a few days before the midterms, period. The only exception would be turncoats like Lizzy and Murkowski.
How can the President who used RINO governor Chris Christy to nominate Wray to head of the FBI have the gall to criticize DeSantis?
Nonsense. They’ve been attacking him. He’s not allowed to respond?
He gave RDS a funny nickname. Then he told everyone today to go and vote for him for governor.
By the way, there is another thread you might be interested in that details the billionaire doner that just bought DeSantis for several million dollars.
He explained to the media that he wants to blunt the populist (MAGA) aspect of the GOP.
are you one of those who are harmed by ‘mean tweets’?
I think the endorsement of O’Dea really aggravated Trump. For those that are pearl clutching, look closer into what that endorsement felt like to Trump. Looking back, it feels like a relatively tame moniker.
Trump needs watch his back for the power hungry within his own circle including his son in law.
Three things:
1) “The Republican Club would rather lose elections and retain power than win and be held accountable to deliver on their false promises.” They did EXACTLY that in 2018 when the Congressional GOP ‘retired’ en mass and threw the control of the Congress to the democrats. This was a purposeful act.,
2) As sundance said, the GOP then stood by and let the democrats destroy Trump the last two years.,
3) The first 5 months of the Trump admin the GOP destroyed Trumps domestic agenda. Leading the charge on the health care side was the ass* Rand Paul. Rand is no friend to MAGA.
BTW, DeSantis HAS to run this time around.
He will be term-limited out of the Florida governorship in 2026 and that means he would be floating around for years with no bully pulpit for the 28 election. He would be irrelevant for years and that doesn’t make for a good political career.
why can’t he announce his candidacy in 2027 a few months after leaving office.
Being out of office in Jan 2027 does not leave much time for floating around before starting to run.
Trump announced in early summer 2015.
Wolverines.