The entire funeral day for Queen Elizabeth II was filled with incredible tribute and depth. One of the most unforgettable days in history. However, that said, perhaps the most moving moment was at St. Georges Chapel in Windsor Castle, when Queen Elizabeth II’s coffin was lowered into the Royal Vault, bringing to an end public mourning for Britain’s longest-reigning monarch.
The sounds and images of the lone bagpipe growing ever dimmer as the coffin was lowered was really memorable. Then came the inflection point of the final farewell and the blessing and prayer upon new King Charles III, and the singing of God Save the King. A very moving tribute reflecting the intensity of the day for the British people. WATCH:
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He looked, as he should have, like the entire weight of the Commonwealth was upon him.
“God
SaveHelp the King.”Looks like he will need it . . .
We still have the Coronation to go through.
He looks so very, very tired.
Very moving to watch him as he hears in this grand public setting, the singing of God Save the King, for him, and seeing his family singing it, for him.
The man has been waiting his entire life, he’s 73 years old! The oldest person to ever ascend to the throne.
YES. I was also thinking that when they take their children home they will be telling a certain one that one day this will all be happening to him as well. Being the new King, the the singing for him, and later in life the burial of his physical body in the same family vault. ALL of it.
And before all that it will happen to Daddy first, just like it just did for his Daddy.
It is worth pointing out that at the Westminster Service his son, Harry, did NOT sing it.
Worse than disgraceful.
I thought I saw his mouth moving.
Not at the Westminster Service. The one posted here was in the Chapel at Windsor.
I’m not sure. MeAgain was but I’m not sure if Sophie was… it’s hard to tell from my laptop with the brief shots they showed off all of them.
It’s a funeral and they may have been lost in their own thoughts. In the grand scheme of things, they have so much else wrong with that relationship that I’m not sure it matters if he didn’t.
Diana used to say that Wills will get the crown and Harry will get the girls.
I missed that. Yes, disgraceful. It will be interesting to see if there is a repentance on his part. Bloggers have not been kind at many sites.
It has been said that Edward VIII gave up his throne for the woman he loved.
Harry abandoned his family for a mess of potage.
Edward and Wallace Simpson were snotty party animals, hardly people who would have given service to the people of GB and the Commonwealth.
Very true. He was called a Nazi sympathizer. And she as well, which history is bearing out. He would have been a disastrous King at any time, but during those years? I shudder to think.
It is at historical moments like those, tl, that I often wonder if God in His wisdom didn’t, shall I say, exert His will. And in so doing gave us Elizabeth the Faithful as her age will be called.
At the time Edward abdicated, the whole country was rocked to its foundation. In fact, that probably saved Britain and the monarchy.
Just my thoughts…
I think you are correct. Elizabeth II’s parent were just what Britain needed during WWII.
I’ve referred to it stella, as a “quirk of fate” in a couple of other posts, that she became Queen through that abdication. In my heart, however, I feel it was anything but.
A merciful act of God, for sure.
They shaped her character.
And rmember her father had a terrible stammer and wasnt expecting to be King. He overcame his stammer after having lessons with an Australian therapist. All shown in the film “The Kings Speech”
She sereved in WW2 as an mechanic.
You are right. They were Nazi sympathisers and met with Hitler. He also gave UK military secrets to Hitler and then they banished the 2 of them to the Bahamas.
Edward VIII told Nazis to keep bombing England and passed information to Germany during WWII, new documentary claims
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10634351/Edward-VIII-collaborated-Nazis-WWII-documentary-claims.html
There has been much written about this man, totally unsuited to be King. For the now provable reasons you list. There were many Brits who adopted these sympathizer views. But a King? Thank you for the link.
Think of all the Queen lived through, and the restrictions placed on her vs parliament… The advance and retreat of Communism, the loss of the rest of the empire, the ethnic degradation of the realm, ad nauseum. She must have had the Four Cardinal virtues in abundance!
We lost a great example of them this week.
I was fortunate as a young boy to watch her coronation as Queen; and now I witness her funeral. An amazing span of years!
They left and didn’t bash the family, just moved on to do their thing. The other two are grifting off the family.
just like Esau he sold his birthright for a bowl of stew…
Harry had his pick of suitable well connected, lovely young ladies. He was a Prince in uniform, a real catch. Two I can think of who he dated for years, and it was thought at different times that one or the other would be walking down the aisle with him.
But one by one, all his girlfriends fizzled out. And I suspect they decided after knowing him as well as they obviously did, that they didn’t fancy taking him on permanently. Thus the American chancer he eventually did marry.
My feeling is that he missed this mother and wanted another. Which is what he got.
And out of respect for the day, that is where I will leave it.
Harry’s wife entrapped him with “love bombing,” a classic narcissist strategy. She did everything possible to emulate Diana, even down to wearing her perfume. Not a classic scent like Chanel No. 5, mind you. Harry has been nearly successfully gaslighted by his wife, as evidenced by his behavior at The Queen’s Funeral.
There are such similarities between Wallis Simpson and Me-Gain Markle
The hair pulled back tightly, the clothes(Oprah dress, white belted coat for the Platinum Jubilee service. On could say she is deliberatly emulating her
I could think of better people to fashion oneself after. I had noticed that as well.
“Deliberately”? More like pathologically!
A lot of some of these bloggers have sources close to the monarchy. Lasy Colin Campbell on Youtube is one.
From what I have read Harry still plans on releasing his book. Harry and Meghan will suck the life out of Charles before it is all over. Harry didn’t wear his uniform and when he was saluted he didn’t salute back.
Harry didn’t return a salute? I missed that! How very interesting!
Get the smelling salts out! Apparently the young Queen Elizabeth was told NOT to sing God Save The King when The King was crowned. Seems like it might be a well thought out tradition.
Fresh out of smelling salts, Randy😉 I defer to tradition. To be honest, I can’t recall seeing what the others did. If none of the family sang it, then I withdraw my comment happily.
Rewatched…all the members of the Royal Family are singing God Save the King, except Charles of course…and Harry. I withdraw my withdrawal. Bad form, Harry.
It’s actually been a fairly busy 10 days for him and you know people are jockeying for position, asking for stuff, etc. None of them have had a chance to privately mourn her. She was the queen to us and them but she was also their mother, grandmother, great grandmother, aunt, cousin, etc. Hopefully now that the funeral and accompanying pageantry is done, they can have the opportunity to mourn.
Princess Anne looked devastated today, too.
Exactly.
I have new respect for Princess Anne.
She has always done what she perceived to be her duty to her mother, her queen, her family and her country. She’s also done it with grace, dignity and a kind heart. Many props to her.
We have always had it.
And we have always felt she was the best of her mother and her father. What a splendid Queen she would have made.
My brother had an occasion to go to England to a professional conference. His field was microbiology. It was Princess Ann that welcomed the conference and gave a speech. He said she was well prepared and very gracious. He was very impressed. She seems to be the epitome of the phrase ‘working Royal’
Harry and Meghan did NOT sing it in Westaminster Abbey. I can understand her not singing it as she is a US citizen, but him??? They must leave and stay in Montecito.
Apparently she has been badgering KC for her kids -who we have never really seen, , to have HRH titles in addition to Prince and Princess.
HRH means they get paid from the Duchy of Cornwall which William now owns-PLUS they become internationally protected people and they have to have security in the US which the US taxpayer will have to pay while they live in the US.
She also wrote a hand delivered leter to KC the day after QE2 died requesting a private meeting so she could explain “her side of he story”
And rumour has it she has been inquiring about QE2’s will.
All this after that Spotify interview she did 2 weeks again saying she didnt sign any NDAs and was free to talk.
QE2 knew she was dying–she apparently had bone cancer (Lady Colin Campbell on Youtube) and TWICE reques ted that the dastardly duo visit her in Balmoral while they were in the UK and Germany 2 weeks ago.
They refused.
Absolute scumbags the two of them.
And then God intervened…she passed away while they were there on other business. I wonder if they had not “by chance” been there if they would have returned for her funeral.
Like all of us who have lost a father and a mother, there is a very real sense of being orphaned, no matter how old you are when you lose them. There is, after all, a child still in all of us until we die. I saw the grieving of a son.
Well said.
Yes, the feeling that YOU are the oldest…
I saw that in Charles, that feeling that your mom has passed away, all those memories, and she’s gone. And now you are IT, you are THE MAN, and everybody is gonna look at you now as the patriarch.
Note: It seems like Dad always passes away before Mom, huh?
Can you imagine the weight on that man’s shoulders when they sang God Save The King?
God save Charles indeed. He likely aged 10 years right there. Not given a chance to grieve… what a bunch of crazy emotions must have been knocking around his brain, and having to put up a brave face because he was in fact the new King and Kings Don’t Cry.
Princess Anne was indeed grieving, women seem to take it sooner…. just wait for Charles and the brothers… give them a month and then they’ll really need some privacy. It’s impossible to grieve in public.
Our Heavenly Father is with her now!
Couldn’t help it…I was crying.
Me too
Not me. But I think I got a piece of dust in my eyes…
“One of the most unforgettable days in history”
Far more unforgettable was 1776 when Americans completely rejected the English Monarchy.
The Monarchy in those days enslaved us. Such is not the case today. The British monarchy enslaves no one.
Today our own American countrymen seek to enslave us and RULE over us.
They do not have the consent of the governed.
AMEN
My consent was permanently withdrawn on 1/20/2021. I am but a statistic…
Our own countrymen colluded with Christopher Steele.
I agree with you but never forget you are CITIZENS of a constitutional republic, we are SUBJECTS of a monarch.
“Unforgettable”? Yes perhaps, but weren’t there to see that, were we?
Apparently not enough otherwise perceptive individuals have completely rejected the monarchy. I’ve seen waaaaay too much praise for the Queen on ‘patriot’ sites. Kind of shocking actually. Somewhat like how 95% of all the ‘conservative’ commentators were actually pro lockdown, scared of Covid at first because they had no understanding of health, then they became PRO genetic manipulation via ‘vaccine’. I couldn’t stomach all the nonsense, and had to stop tuning into nearly all of the pro tyranny people. Luckily most have come around now, but still, far too telling, and rather unfortunate that so many ‘leaders’ were swindled.
Any patriot, that understands what the British Monarchy WAS and still IS, should know better. Headlines should have been. ‘British Queen Has Died’, the end. Nothing else needs to be said, good or bad about her on 90% of the ‘new’s outlets.
Please wake up people.
With you Charles. There is much to observe in human behavior that scares the heck out of me.
Shocking – YES!
But then “The bigger the humbug, the more [some] people will like it.”
History tells us that parliamentary governments don’t last without a monarch. Respecting the needs/stability of other cultures is something most Americans have learned to respect.
Present your evidence, because all I’ve seen on other channels was horrible accusations, without one shred of proof, full of vitriol and filth.
So put your proof where your mouth is.
We can be respectful of the passing of an historic person and still completely reject the English Monarchy.
The British love their monarchy. Their choice. We chose not to have one, or even an aristocracy, but the British kept theirs. Different strokes for different folks. One isn’t necessarily better than the other.
Why do people find it difficult to “Pay Their Respects”?
Fullstop
It is entirely possible to pay respect to the moments of reflection of mortality, and yet hold difference of opinion with the mortal.
Perfectly stated, Sundance. Thank you.
I agree.
Thank you, Sundance. I agree with you.
Many people lack basic decency nowadays, never mind plain grace.
But I do understand why some people make those comments, but they’re doing so in the wrong place, the wrong time and conflating the person with the history/politics wrapped around the monarchy:
IMHO, there are three ways of looking at this:
(1) Look at the job she did. For this Elizabeth II did an outstanding job. She became queen at a very young age, unexpectedly, yet she did a tremendous job. I can’t think she ever made an error, neither did her husband. Always represented the good side of the UK and its people ( something somewhat hard to do given the snobbishness inherent in the British Ruling Class). Both were superb examples of the stability of a constitutional monarch -and graceful at that, to boot. For the way she, and her husband, handled the crown she deserves the respect of a job well done.
(2) Look at the person. Again, Elizabeth II was a pretty strong woman but seemingly gentle enough ( I say seemingly because I’m speaking about her public persona ). She had her kids and raised them in a rather difficult environment ( no privacy…). And during WWII she was a truck mechanic.. surely a move that endeared her to her subjects, even if it was murder for her nails! I mean, she could have done a bunch of other things, but instead she got her hands dirty and the job done. For that, Elizabeth II displayed a pragmatic and honest character and she deserves out respect.
(3) The British Monarchy. Strictly speaking, as an American, it doesn’t affect me one bit and I’m sort of tired of the sycophants in the American Ministry of Truth and Propaganda with their breathless coverage of the Queen’s Funeral. It in indeed a Good Show, but come’on… It’s entertainment to us and anyone who claims the US needs a King needs to retake their High School Civics courses. That said, from a historical point of view, we need to respect what the monarchy represents to the Brits. It’s theirs and we should not criticize them for it.
Bottom line, it is a funeral for a Grand Dame who was at worst benign and at best a beneficial stabilizing force for her nation. And, oh… at funerals we only say nice things… we “pay our respects”…
May she rest in peace, job well done.
Paying respect is one thing, reverence for the monarchy another. When do we pay our respect to the unknown soldier in this exalted fashion?
There are many unforgettable days in history and why distract from this unforgettable day?
The monarchy promised “liberty for slaves”…and gave them a pile of rocks in Canada. The British slave owners kept their slaves and got good land. Riots ensued.
Then they were put on a boat and promised land in Africa by the Sierra Leone Company. They were booted by Jamaican maroons courtesy of the monarchy when they tried to revolt…over taxes.
See the tv series, books, documentary, or original ledger from the ship, “The Book of Negroes”.
The Queen gave one of her subjects an award for one of the books on the topic.
And Sept. 13, 1814…
History is bad, nothing good can be said about history.
It is all about the future.
But, the future can be (and has been) a siren, calling to you with her lovely, beautiful voice only to lure you to your own destruction. 🤔
And then the pols made a backdoor deal with them in 1791. The US flag is the flag of The East India Company.
An era of dignity, decency, and respect for the British citizenry has ended. Long live the New Greenie King and his Lolita Express brother, a suitable pair of leaders for the dystopian future.
Perhaps the past 11 – 12 days have given King Charles some new perspective, some introspect. Hopefully, the readings of the Gospels and Epistles during those Church services, as well as the accolades to his mother, made by the Church Officials, will have opened his ears; next, open his heart, so that he will be a great Monarch.
Although we now witness the utterly-ceremonial lowering of a lead-lined coffin into an elevator shaft, perhaps we now “faintly, begin to realize” that we are in fact at the permanent end of “a political age” upon which we have for now so very long relied.
“The World
maywill never see the likes of her again.”Literally since she was “a teenager in The Blitz,” until two days before she died, she never separated herself from “the service of her country as she and her nation saw it.”
“How ‘[Elizabeth the] Great‘ is that?”
Here in the United States of America, “have we actually ever seen such a thing?”
No. “Four years at a time,” we have for the most part merely witnessed the “reign” of various people who have contrived to twist the prevailing political system to the temporal and financial benefit of themselves. (Yes, “to the tune of <>dreds of <>illions of [now, entirely vaporous …] Dollars.” Goody for them.)
I’m a little meloncoly.
But we didn’t want a monarchy.
And a greater King has always reigned over heaven and earth.
“have we actually ever seen such a thing?”
George Washington?
Exactly, a Republic if you can keep it.
Ame
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Amazing display of British unity and respect.
Amazing end to an Amazing Lady. Rest in Peace
An entirely suitable day.
Thank you, Sundance and CTH for your sensitive, reserved and respectful commentary. We Brits are appreciative when people accept our idiosyncrasies!
Our population has experienced a complete range of responses to this last fortnight and today has offered to many, many people a measure of comfort and closure after a national shock, which shook the general expectation that business will always be as usual.
A sad, but good day. Now we’ll see what happens next.
Lord, have mercy upon us all.
Queen Elizabeth was extraordinary. What a burden she was handed at such a young age yet she couldn’t have done it any better.
The piper walking away…incredibly sad but beautiful as well. It was magnificent.
Condolences to you Brits. My mother was 100% British so I feel a strong connection.
I thought it was a moving spectacle also , very rich in symbolism and history with the acknowledgement of the ultimate Sovereignty of Jesus Christ which at least is a reminder to the secular atheist powers that be .
I also felt the Queen’s piper was the most moving part at the end .
Signaling an end of an era .
Almost as if saying goodbye to the last of Western Christendom .
I watched it all.
Kept it together until the Piper.
I always fall apart as soon as I hear the first note of a bagpipe at a funeral.
What a great human being she was.
May she Rest in Peace.
I have a soft spot for Lady Louise – one of the grand children. Only 18 Years old and rumored to be the favorite among the grandchildren. She was especially close to Phillip who taught her driving–and even left his driving horses to her when he died.
She was wearing the horseshoe jewelry the Queen had gifted her.
My heart goes out to the family…but I feel doubly the sorrow for this young lady who has now lost both grandparents she was close to in such a short time.
I have ancestors from Northumberland….perhaps that is why the sound of bagpipes always moves me to tears.
Much respect, thank you!
Rest In Peace Queen Elizabeth II. Well done Thou Good and Faithful Servant.
The honor and dignity shown her is impressive.
I was just talking to a friend whose relative was laid at Arlington.
She was astonished to see that most of those present were in casual clothing – only 2 in suits.
Truly, unless a family sets a standard of dressing with dignity and respect for certain occasion, then laxity prevails.
I noticed Steve Hilton was dressed better than his usual T-shirt the other day and Neil Oliver appeared to be somewhat more dressed up when discussing the passing of the Queen.
Agree – people can’t be bothered to dress with respect these days. Even some of the pastors show up in flip flops and jeans. My son went to church when he was 10 years old in a suit. There is a comparison to be made with how one dresses and one’s character. Or maybe I’m showing my age.
When she was a young girl, Elizabeth asked her father, “What do you do when they sing ‘God Save the King’?
He replied, “You try to look humble and grateful, but whatever you do, you don’t join right in!”
Today, the Prince and Princess of Wales’s seven year old daughter had to school the ten year old next King but one. We could see her telling him, “You have to bow” as the Queen’s coffin passed…which he dutifully did.
She and her brother at their young ages displayed grace and a sense of place beyond their young years. I was very moved by seeing them there to pay their respects to their very much loved great grandmother. They behaved impeccably and withstood what was for them a very long hour I’m certain.
Those two definitely have different personalities. Charlotte is is a pip, as my mother would have said.
I see something in her that indicates to me she will be a future Anne, the Princess Royal.
It wasn’t the first time she’s taken charge of her brothers. I agree. She’s a pip all right…and I suspect a mischievous one as well.
I got up at 5:30am to watch the procession from the Hall to the first service of the day. It was incredible to watch the solemn pageantry. I took a quick nap and was awake in time to see the Queen’s return journey to Windsor.
My Westie was so moved by the bagpipes that he sang along.
Very moving, very emotional.
I still cannot quite believe that the Queen has passed.
She was a truly remarkable woman.
Ah…..give your Westie a hug for me!
Ad rem, as the Queen’s coffin moved towards Windsor, her two Corgis were led out to “stand in observance”.
And further up after that, the gentleman who always rode out with her was standing ramrod straight, holding the reins of her favourite pony, Emma…saddled and waiting for her rider. It would be a hard soul indeed to see both and not feel the beginnings of a tear or two.
😥 …..
Us as well….suddenly. Couldn’t find the words.
I read somewhere that she knew that she was coming to the end of her day here on this earth so her last Corgi died in 2018. She did not want them to be left alone.
Andrew and Fergie will look after them. They were gifts from him. And I bet she took them on the condition that when she passed, he would make that commitment. They will be just fine I am so glad to say.
Betsy, when I saw her pups, I started bawling. I know she loved them.
To be truthful, Robin, that tear or two for us turned into a flood.
I didn’t go to bed until after the Westminster service so I missed the one in Windsor (advantage of being retired). I’m sure I’ll be able to find the entire thing online, hopefully without the stupid chyron the France 24 had. Um, yeah, I think we already knew this was Queen Elizabeth’s funeral.
So annoying that France 24 banner over the picture!
Yes
Do try, Mari. It was simple and intimate and beautiful. The service was shorter but in my view was more comforting. The choir? I had no words.
Good for your Westie…my Sheltie slept through it all.
For a woman of such strength and dignity her sons are disappointing at best.
That is one thing I do not understand.
For an amazing strong woman, how does Queen Elizabeth end up with a son and future King like Charles.
Every one is hoping and praying that he will “grow up” and fill his mother’s shoes.
That he will drop the greenie crap and the weird stuff he has filled his life with for the last 70 something years.
Good grief he has sashayed around the world for the last fifty years doing not much of anything worth while and now he is the King.
How does this happen.
How does a nice country like Great Britain get stuck with this guy.
My hopes and prayers are with the citizens with this guy now King which I know does not have any real power but still has some kind of importance to the people of England.
His father tried to make him “grow up” to no avail obviously.
Did you watch “The Crown”? Charles was sent to a harsh “public” (private) school to toughen him up — it suited Philip who went there, but not the more sensitive Charles. His mother was distant, devoted to her duty and the daily boxes of documents she needed to read. For Royalty and the aristocracy, nannies raised their children. It’s not the sort of situation that leads to tender and supportive bonds with the parents. Charles’ parents left on a 6-month Commonwealth journey without him and Anne who were at very tender ages. He had wealth and ceremony but not the relationships he most needed.
The same requirement of the Anglican Church and the Succession caused her sister, Margaret, and Charles not to be allowed to marry the persons they loved. Margaret’s life was a disaster, Charles was almost the same. We can pray for him that having Camila at his side will help him measure up to the demands of his role.
You have to always keep in mind that the writers and directors of this Netflix production have given many interviews in which they tell readers that the dialogue and many, many events they portray ARE FICTIONAL.
FICTIONAL.
Philip sent him to Gordonstoun in Moray, Scotland… by all accounts an austere school in the extreme.
An entitlement school, IMHO.
Victoria was also a strong Queen and mother. Her son wasn’t all that in spite of a father trying to whip him into shape.
It could be said that there’s some genetic fragility in the royal line- Edward, Duke of Windsor for example.
It should be noted that there have been other princes and kings that weren’t all they could have been esp. with the advantages provided to them. THAT weren’t the sons of working queen mothers. In other words some Kings produced some punks too. Home life isn’t in a home, Prince Philip’s mother was sent off, and then retired to a nunnery. How’s that for a warm and fuzzy home life.
I think there’s still a societal construct about the expectation that she serve the country as dutifully as she did, and raise all the kids to be wonderful, that isn’t an expectation of a King. Just sayin’
Then there’s the weird educational situation. Elizabeth wasn’t educated, and or trained to become Queen. I think she and Philip did more in that direction for Charles, but where do you send them to monarch school? And I think the next generation did somewhat better- one learns best by your own mistakes, but clever learns from others.
Charles III does have the weight of the monarchy on his shoulders- it might’ve been wise to choose another regnal name. No luck associated with this one. Or he has the chance to change his stars. May God bless the King.
Nannies.
Why is it that so many conservative commentators, that are otherwise usually perceptive, are so enthralled by the British Monarchy? Why so much praise for her / them? Was it the 90% tax rate that Britain had in the 50’s that is so amazing? Do the ‘conservatives’ love how ungodly wealthy the British Monarchy is? How the Queen / King actually own all the property of the commonwealths, by law? Surely the sychophants must love the cultural degradation via importing a new underclass of illegal workers? Or is it the wonderful lack of free speech, not being allowed, by law to criticize the Queen / King? Or is it countless others things, some of which are too obscene to even post here…….And before I get criticized about ‘The Queen didn’t have any power’, please take a moment (or a lifetime if necessary) to understand how the levers of power actually work in the real world.
Really, Charles…is this the time for that?
Really … had to post it twice on this thread … for who knows why?
“Apparently not enough otherwise perceptive individuals have completely rejected the monarchy. I’ve seen waaaaay too much praise for the Queen on ‘patriot’ sites. Kind of shocking actually. Somewhat like how 95% of all the ‘conservative’ commentators were actually pro lockdown, scared of Covid at first because they had no understanding of health, then they became PRO genetic manipulation via ‘vaccine’. I couldn’t stomach all the nonsense, and had to stop tuning into nearly all of the pro tyranny people. Luckily most have come around now, but still, far too telling, and rather unfortunate that so many ‘leaders’ were swindled.
Any patriot, that understands what the British Monarchy WAS and still IS, should know better. Headlines should have been. ‘British Queen Has Died’, the end. Nothing else needs to be said, good or bad about her on 90% of the ‘new’s outlets.
Please wake up people.”
The whole day’s ceremony was quite the entertainment spectacle!
Sure, why not? He’s not insulting the queen, but rather the notion that, by definition, a monarchy and all the royal family are believed to be and treated as superiors by their subjects.
I have no problem with our government paying homage to her in some way, or in many ways, just as it might do as a courtesy to any country who lost a respected head-of-state. But let’s not get lost in the idea that there is something romantic about a monarchy, and a social class of people who are elite and elitist above the populace’s ability to ever join.
Whilst true the U.S. does not have a Monarchy, we do have a BIG UNI-PARTY CLUB and “we ain’t in it”. In truth we have a Republic with 536 CROWNS.
I don’t think that every part of response during these days, to these events, is necessarily to be interpreted as being “enthralled by the British Monarchy”.
In the chaos of our times and the escalation of deterioration that we in the US are experiencing, much of that response is, very simply, an appreciation for something that is quiet. Dignified. Traditional. (tradition is not inherently awful; some of it is inherently good).
This draws responses out of me, obviously on a distinct level, that are very similar to the response I have when I see small boys in the store, guided by their mother, and when she speaks quietly to them to settle down a bit, they smile at her and quiet themselves. I like seeing things that reflect goodness and discipline.
Even if every individual detail or every giant over-arching context in this situation is not perfectly wonderful, it reminds me. It’s a photograph of something good, if nothing else.
I think a great deal of the response that you so full-heartedly criticize, Charles….(of all names on this day), is a human response longing for more remembered goodness to be the norm again.
Here’s another part of my “response”: I deeply appreciate seeing Harry and Andrew, again and again and again in the video footage, in their suits. By their choices they have their consequences and today, their consequences are paraded for hours and seen around the world. I’m good with that.
I’m not enthralled with the British Monarchy. But in human empathy, I shed tears as they sang God Save the King….not because I’m enthralled with the British Monarchy.
Can we allow for some nuance?
My tears had to do with empathy for the human being, King Charles, who now has to live out what he has lived for, and I suspect it’s not going to go very easy for him. And a lot of that will be his consequences. His apparent willingness to be really rude, on camera, is probably just a hint of how things are.
Well said Sharon. I hope everyone sees past the pomp and circumstance of the Monarchy for a moment and look at the humanity of a family and country grieving.
Folks if you don’t have something nice to say……………
Don’t think it has anything to do with conservatives or liberals. It is the ending of a truly historical era. It is a rare gift to realize one is alive during truly historical episodes of life on earth.
Being born in the USA, and loving everything about our nation and system of government (when it is functioning properly), this remarkable lady became Queen the year I was born, so this is the only Queen I have ever been aware of and certainly have very little idea of what her duties actually were – but being there, simply being steady and calming during a world which has seen complete upheavals and turmoil at moments of time, even for me, the Queen is still on her throne while all the world goes completely coocoo was a steadying thought.
It will be interesting to see how the royals of other nations, whether from the Middle East or those that still exist in the northern European nations garner as much attention for their funerals. I don’t think they will, but who knows? Perhaps people yearn for longstanding symbols to act as guideposts for the heart and soul of a nation and having kings, and queens, might again become a thing?
One last thought – rituals are important; they mark the passing of time and new beginnings even if the participants aren’t fully aware of their significance. It is one reason why religions will never fully be gotten rid of, the soul needs the ability to express and rituals provide that outlet.
From the beginning of human existence on earth, we have been religious animals. Rituals and worship are part of us.
Bessie, you’re right, it isn’t about political ideologies. But I don’t think it’s entirely about titles – King, Queen, whatever – either.
It was the quality and, then, the longevity and consistency of Elizabeth’s paradoxical life as a sovereign who strove always to serve, that marked her out as extraordinary.
Her commitment to serve is the authentic guidepost that she leaves us. Thanks be to God.
I think the Queen’s example of duty, tradition, honor, and her trying to keep her children, et.al., honorable was inspiring. I think she was the last vestige of Queen Victoria’s reign as far as morality and doing the right thing. Now a publicly known adulterer is on the throne, wrapped up in Climate Change and who knows if they will get back in the EU. At least he’s probably faithful to Camilla this time.
Charles, there’s something quite desperate about your need to whine and stamp your feet about the death of a truly great lady, not just once, but twice.
Unseemly, whatever you might personally think, to denigrate someone so universally loved, on the day of her funeral.
See someone about your issues, do.
It is their way of doing things not ours.
They like it that way and it is not really our business but I do feel sorry for them that they have to put up now with King Charles after having such a lovely Queen Elizabeth.
I suppose they are use to that though and soldier on.
AGAIN..
PROVE. YOUR. CASE.
I’ll remind you that the Ten Commandments prohibit “bearing false witness” against your neighbor. So, if you wish to slander the woman, and don’t give me a bunch of silly videos.
Proof that eoukd stand in a court of law. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
Otherwise, STFU.
Yes, the lowering of the casket was, of course, a transfixing moment, but for me, an American, the removal of the symbols that had sat atop the casket, esp. the final one to be removed, the Crown, was the “She can no longer BE Queen as she is mortal and not with us any more” that made it all real and a not just a story.
And even though there was a Crown and there was a Queen, Elizabeth at the moment was just like every other person lost to all of us who have lost our loved ones: gone, not to be seen again, not to be heard from, not to be touched. The loneliness of that realization is the same for everyone in all places and in all times.
Sigh.
Beautifully said.
she has a better crown now, in the presence of the Lord, and in love she shall throw it at His feet
One Christian soul.
Gray’s, ‘Elegy Written In A Country Churchyard’, comes to mind. Especially this verse,
‘The boast of heraldry, the pomp of pow’r,
And all that beauty, all that wealth e’er gave,
Awaits alike th’ inevitable hour.
The paths of glory lead but to the grave.’
One British subject says that when he was commissioned into the Royal Navy, “My oath was to the Queen.”
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oath-queen-locals-react-queen-220516964.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHnlabXXDP1X0gCFb2mImf0B5450hjC2NgX5jgYrBza0cOlKzV9xpAtyW6maarvipk31qZQX_8rpp8x4KDjfzK8fGygd-ya_QRo_sl5rYP_1m0kcftgeyp5Ik7oExB_4q1fmdoSYweDRI-fXDKu4cbTKiv6afINjnNZWufX_QHiu
I think the Queen/Monarch is to the Brits what the USA flag is to American patriots. Fortunately, for the past 70 years, the Queen was worth taking an oath to. (Agh, I hate ending a sentence with a preposition).
God save the King! RIP Queen Elizabeth! She would be so proud!
The end of an era.
The Queen loved the land of the birth ( Scotland)
My Prime Minister here in Canada ( Blackface) embarrassed our nation in an infantile display over the weekend in London.
Queen Elizabeth II was in a league of her own..
Huh?
If interested check out The Gateway Pundit..they have an article on it.
Cheers!
He got drunk, and confirmed he is an arse.
Not surprised.
Will do.
-Thanks, Dekester.
Found it… and read various takes on it.
What a thoughtless… 💩
-Selfish…. creep.👁
Patience…apparently the night before or after (can’t remember which) the reception King Charles gave for visiting dignitaries, Justin, her Majesty’s PM in Canada, showed up at a hotel bar inappropriately and disgracefully dressed in a tee shirt and joined in with a sing-a-long of Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody. Loudly. The staff at the hotel were not happy.
A more disrespectful performance from anyone but that person? It’s impossible to imagine. He more than overstepped and I hope Canadians never let him forget how he, an excresence, disgraced their country and their Queen.
Thanks for that, Betsy.
Will look for video.
Just in
is so out there;
-a sleazy jerk.
Trudeau decided today was the day for his impression of the rock band Queen. Very low class IMHO
Vulgar at best.
How can a grown man be so childish?
Pampered freaks are like that.
Supreme narcissism. It is a trait of that condition that the acting out for attention gets more pronounced when attention is focused on someone else.
You can do anything you want when you’re a tyrant.
And he most certainly does. He’s nothing more than the drama teacher he was before he decided to be an authoritarian…always dressing up in various countries’ national dress when he visited.
I suppose as a fantasist as well as a moronic narcissist, he thought he was being clever. No sense of time, occasion, or place.
Who does he love? He loves himself.
I read that article in the Gateway Pundit and thought of you.😊
I definitely do not like your PM, and I think singing Bohemian Rhapsody at a hotel bar the night before the Queen’s funeral was not in good taste. But, it was after all, not on “company time.”
This world of Iphones and social media has been used to take people down more than it has been used to build people up.
Dekester – Agree with your comment but I think she was born in England at the home of her Scottish Mother’s Father, Earl of Strathmore. (Elizabeth’s Grandfather)
Without a doubt she loved Scotland.
It’s a reminder of how the pomp and circumstances of a traditional religious ceremony imbues humility and awe into the hearts of the attendees.
Watch it on 2x speed. Much more upbeat.
Sadly I was thinking how does the big, beautiful, richly adorned church still stand? Do they not have BLM and Antifa there, or are they paying them handsomely to stay away?
Or do they just believe in law and order?
Anyone disrupting the Queen’s funeral will get pummeled, you can count on that.
Makes you realize how stupid and irresponsible it is to allow vicious criminal minds to deface and ruin historic monuments.
I will never get over what antifa and blm were allowed to desecrate and destroy!
Nor get over the cowardice of elected officials who let it happen.
A Brit here.
It is amazing how the pomp and circumstance rolls ever onward and this passing provides an insight into how our monarchy continues to reign.
QE2 to many anti royalists epitomise the stranglehold over the kingdom.
But she was certainly a decent person and she struck the perfect balance between the establishment and the people.
Hate the sin, love the sinner I say.
When we think of the King of Kings, the contrast is staggering and reassuring. Praise God
While she was most certainly the greatest sovereign of all time, what’s more important to me is how her sweet young great-grandson, Louis, was particularly troubled that Gran-Gran wouldn’t be at Balmoral any longer to play games with. This woman was loved by her country, and personally by her family. May she RIP and may God watch over the UK.
She planned the entire thing (cleverly).
From the day she died to this final moment.
A message.
Now we will see if anyone over there listened. 🤔
The Queen very much liked bagpipe music, and supported its teaching. The lament was Sleep Dearie Sleep. Such laments belong to the class of tunes called “Big Music”, as opposed to “Small Music”, comprising reels, etc.
Bagpipers cannot modulate volume, so the the way to have quieter music was for the piper to move away.
Sundance, I want to thank you for posting so many threads of this historic moment and the obseqiues for a woman who gave all she had for her country. I never expected to see any here on this beautiful site. That there were as many as there were was a gift for my British husband and for me, both of us who felt the ache of not being there ourselves.
With this one which shows the stark moment, after her crown, sceptre and orb were moved from her coffin to the altar, we felt the full reality of her passing. It was sombre and final.
When her piper in his full regimental dress kilt stood in the tiny space alongside the Chapel (as he did for Philip’s funeral) and piped his solemn farewell for her, turning, and walking away? There were no dry eyes in this house.
Both services were lovely and moving. But it was this one in Windsor Chapel which affected us the most. It felt more intimate, and I’ve never heard the choir sing with voices such as those we heard, voices which no doubt reached the heavens.
No matter how one feels about the monarchy, no one watching the lowering of her coffin into the vault to rest aside her husband’s could possibly not feel his or her heart skip a beat. I know ours did.
A singular moment out of too many to count which we witnessed these past 10 days which we will never forget.
…with gratitude…
Betsy….. bless you and your family on this most solemn day. My father’s family is British/Scottish, so I recognize and appreciate our “people”.
Also….there were seven articles written by Sundance. I had to go and check.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=queen+elizabeth
Thank you, Ad rem😘 I had lost count but I knew there were more than one had a right to expect.
I felt with you there just had to be a familial connection with a country which still values all that is worth preserving in this poor old world. It seems I am correct…I am not surprised. All blessings and thanks to you as well, my friend.
Hear, hear. Bravo Sundance.
And thank you from my family.
Betsy, you are so amazing. I always look forward to your messages. You have a wonderful way with words and you are so succinct in your explanations. Thank you. This is another reason I love this site. It brings out so many intelligent and interesting discussions.
Bless, Spryte. Thank you.
And how right you are…our Treehouse family, where all the neighbours wander out at various times of day or night to chat, share opinions and information, stories, agree or disagree, all done with a civility so lacking elsewhere. There really is not another like it.
I was so grateful to find CTH —
I could not deal with “conservative” sites like Breitbart where hatred of conservatism was rampant in the comments section.
I’ve cut out so many, Kit-Kat, which I used to read. This is the only one I comment on. Conversational and illuminating.
“This is the only one I comment on..”
ditto
” Conversational and illuminating”
A gratifying combination
THE best!😊
I could have done without the giant red banner blocking out video content …
Indeed!
I know. It seemed a little disrespectful to me. Frankly I don’t like those banners/chyrons, boxes, etc. at all on any occasion.
Unfortunately, classy production is a thing of the past.
Agree!!!
I watched on the BBC’s YouTube channel and there was no banner blocking video content. Maybe they will have a clip of this moment.
Also watched on BBC. Figured their narrators would know what they’re talking about.
You might be surprised how aware I am. At 74, a lot of money has been taken from my blood , sweat, and tears, and used for personal profit, and used for silliness, etc.
God’s Blessings and comfort to our friends across the pond. The entire world has lost an incredible woman who we may not ever see the likes of, again. So happy to have lived during her reign. God Save the King!
Except this doesn’t show the coffin being lowered. Oh well, other videos will show it.
It did briefly but the camera was mostly on the Reverends, I don’t know what you call them for Church of England.
Doubtful. This was taken from the BBC feed. It cut to the bagpipes before the casket was lowered all the way.
As western civilization is lowered into the tomb we mourn. A powerful symbol.
Matthew, on the deepest level, this is exactly what it symbolized. You phrased it beautifully.
Watched this AM…very moving and historic.
She was a classy lady…a beacon of positive light upon the Commonwealth…could not stand to watch Harry and his tramp wife try to make millions in book royalties off of perceived family dirt.
Watching i reflected back on the Reagan procession and the tens or hundreds of thousands lining the roads in California out to Simi Valley to his resting place.
The Occupant would not be able to draw flies…
What a tribute to Queen Elizabeth Blessings to the Royal Family
I lived in the SF Bay Area (San Jose) when POTUS Reagan passed. TO THIS DAY, I regret not going to pay my final respects. I have no problem with the British paying their respects with the dignity and honor that they have displayed.
Did Queen Camilla ever cast a kind eye on anyone – especially her two grandchildren?!
Charles is a climate change hoax believer and WEF flunky.
He was also friends with the celebrity pedo Jimmy Saville.
His kids are woke royals.
Then there is Andrew, pals with Jeffey.
I really do not understand all of this monarch worship. Do Americans understand that this country was founded by fighting not one but TWO wars with this same monarchy? Do my fellow Americans fully grasp that the throne upon which this lady sat and now Charles sits is the SAME throne we had to fight for our freedoms from? Many tell me they are allys with us…I digress and say we are being USED by them. For one we are now at this moment sending our LNG to the UK so they will not freeze and we will pay a much higher price for our heating because of it. All because of irresponsible decisions they have made. We saved them in both world wars and we have paid a high cost in blood and treasure ever since. Oh when will my countrymen wake up? I will not bow to these monarchs nor will I say any kind words for them. Nor shall I shed any tears for them. They are where they are because of PRIVILAGE AND WEAK PEOPLE!!!
Perhaps you can understand the term “paying our respects.” Perhaps not.
If you find yourself in the “not” column, you will find many places to share in your contempt and disdain. However, at CTH our cornerstone is cemented to a much higher faith in humanity, our creator. His commandments were not suggestions.
I find it interesting that this sentiment is lost in American culture today. In Albanian culture, even blood feuds are suspended to pay respects to the departed.
Aspade: The spirit of America’s founding patriots lives on among many CTH readers, and thank goodness for that.
Hear! Hear!
I will reserve my “paying respects” for the men who died freeing us of that monarchy. Although I understand your meaning. I am fine with people paying their respects…however what I am talking about is this ten days of worship that so many have included themselves in. I am not speaking mainly of the person I am speaking primarily about what that person represented and how that pertains to us as a nation and people. Too many have forgotten what it really means to be an American and have celebrated royals around the world. They have forgotten what great pains we as a nation endured under such royals and during our time fighting for the very freedoms we have today. Freedoms we are losing. I do not understand that while we as a nation are being used and abused Americans are so eager to celebrate such things like a queen (while she may have been kindd etc) a queen nonetheless that sat on the very same throne we fought against for our very nation. My message is that Americans should never forget the atrocities that throne committed upon our families not that long ago and the dead men and women we have suffered during the world wars to save said throne.
Do you also barge into funerals in your hometown when someone you “know stuff about” has died, and stand there in the gathered congregation and demand that everyone listen to your report about the deceased? Good grief.
No need to be rude or become hysterical.
Last I looked this was a forum for discussing ideas & viewpoints related to the particular article posted by SD.
Darrell makes some very good points that are even more relevant given the personal outrage expressed by yourself, SD (& all those who upticked SD). Quite an extraordinary reaction.
Surely, if the Catalans can live alongside the hegemonic Castilians after a 600 long blood feud which is still full on today…
…You can figure out that the American War of Independence and War of 1812 were over 200 years ago and we decided to be friends sometime after 1860 or so….
Even the Mafia knows how to “pay respects”… Surely Elizabeth II deserves better than Il Capo Di Tutti Capi?
Thank you, Sundance. God bless you. It is an honor to pay our respects to this beautiful woman.
Thank you for our wonderful treehouse. The open thread is a great place to be with other Christians.
It is said over a million people witnessed in person this final ceremony…and yet you only can find words to smear them as you vent your anger. Shame on you for this moment where you lost your mind, and your soul.
So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. “Look,” they said, “you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint a king to judge us like all the other nations.”
But when they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” their demand was displeasing in the sight of Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD.
And the LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king. 1 Samuel 8:4-7
He said, “This will be the manner of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them to his own chariots and horses, to run in front of his chariots. He will appoint some for himself as commanders of thousands and of fifties, and others to plow his ground, to reap his harvest, to make his weapons of war, and to equip his chariots. And he will take your daughters to be perfumers, cooks, and bakers.
He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his servants. He will take a tenth of your grain and grape harvest and give it to his officials and servants. And he will take your menservants and maidservants and your best cattle and donkeys and put them to his own use.
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will beg for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you on that day.” 1 Samuel 8 : 11-17
noun
Government by a monarch.
A state ruled or headed by a monarch.
Supreme power wielded by a single person; absolute personal authority.
Monarchies of men are evil. The bible says it is a government who”s foundation is rejecting the Lord himself. Our founding fathers laid the foundation for this country on these 2 truths.
number 1 -There is a God who has given us our rights, to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
number 2 – That all governments of men are inherently evil and must be chained down with the chains of a constitution.
RE: “Supreme power wielded by a single person; absolute personal authority”
Britain is a constitutional monarchy.
“A constitutional monarchy is a form of government in which a monarch acts as head of state within the parameters of a written (i.e., codified), unwritten (i.e., uncodified) or blended constitution. It differs from absolute monarchy in that an absolute monarch serves as the sole source of political power in the state and is not legally bound by any constitution. ”
http://www.monarchist.org.uk/constitutional-monarchy.html
As Americans we should appreciate the long process from absolute to limited monarch because that is what led to our constitutional republic.
Perfectly explained.
I would not bow either. But I can recognize that traditions offer solace and stability to many in chaotic and frightening times.
We didn’t fight Queen Elizabeth. She devoted her life to her country… a job she never asked for. I have respect for her upholding dignity and tradition.
Look at our current POTUS and the rulers of the little kingdoms in DC. I hear FJB say “I give my word as a Biden” and I’d laugh if I weren’t so disgusted. Not so sure right now we’re all that much better off…there is no one at the top to even give a sense of decorum. Our founders had it right…unfortunately the worst of human nature has gotten in the way.
It’s the City of London that is calling the shots. They wanted war with Russia with Ukraine as proxy and ordinary people will pay the price.
Same as it’s been through the past world wars.
It was the banksters who used the US treasury to bailout the British after world War one that created the great depression.
Oh wonderful,… king Charles, the communist is now in charge. Brace yourself Brits for what is coming your way.
Fun fact: Not only is King Charles the oldest person to ever ascend to the throne, he’s also the first monarch in history who aspired to be a feminine hygiene product.
4 billion human souls were witnesses to an amazing display of Christianity in all it’s glory! Were hearts touched? Yes, indeed. Hymns, prayers, gospel and love accompanied Elizabeth into the arms of Our Father!
Excellent point!
-Jesus lives❣️
A funeral for a loved one is a trying and emotional affair especially a mother or father. When my mother died, the memorial service was the next day and she was interred that day also. To have the affair drawn out for a week or more would have drained me to the hilts.
Took us two weeks to arrange it.
The Wuhan Flu was still having its effects
Even so, before the Flu, it normally took 10 days: get the church, get the plot if you don’t have one, get the casket, flowers, hall, church, caterers, notices, obituary, paper work… it’s very hard work and stressful.
And so it comes to an end that the greatest feminist of my time, a true leader of excellence, a woman of sincere faith, a Mother who loved her family and those who she served, now rests with her beloved Prince Philip after 70 years of devoted service.
The people of Great Britain have shown the world who they are, what they have been and who they intend to be through this wonderful service honoring their Queen, a woman they loved.
Charles heard God Save The Queen his entire life.
Charles’ expression was telling when ‘The King’ was sung.
Our history, our culture, our civilization. Our Christian faith.
Charles looked older than Q.E. II ever did…
Thank you, Sundance. Your coverage of the Queen’s passing has been excellent.
God rest her soul.
Although I am not a subject, it was a comfort she was still there, holding traditional duty and service. I admire her dedication, she did not think of herself, but of her country. I hope Charles realizes her example in his reign.
The Queen is still more mentally aware than Biden.
Thank you for the coverage, Sundance.
Charles bloated red hands and fingers are a clear indication his days are numbered
Everyone’s ‘days are numbered’
while here
( thankfully there is also the remembrances, lessons, and heavenly, spiritual ever lasting life that exists amongst the passing, and those here ).
It is a blessing that we live here, for the most of the life journey – while not knowing the ‘numbers’.
Imho
p.s. It is good for people to see the reverance…..
Queen Elizabeth,
Thank you
Eclessiastes reminds us there is
a time to be born, and a time to die;
. . . .
a time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
. . . .
a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
For this reason we need to heed the writers serious warning:
Moreover,
I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness,
and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness.
I said in my heart,
God will judge the righteous and the wicked,
for there is a time for every matter and for every work.
I wonder about the multitudes attending or watching the funeral
how many thought about death and what follows?
How many asked themselves, “Am I ready to die and face my Maker?”